I must say I am a huge fan of your channel it seems there is not anything you can't fabricate and it is refreshing to be able to watch someone that shows you the right way to do things when UA-cam is flooded with so many hacks thanks
Thumbs up for the little girl helping her daddy at 3:50 min. That's so awesome seeing family in the picture. Kind of brings everything into perspective doesn't it?
Wouldn't the panel have been stronger if you would have alternated the weave so that they crossed with each layer? It may be this part did not need the additional strength but am I correct in thinking the alternate weave would be stronger? Thanks for sharing this, very valuable and your video was clear and HD is always a plus...;)
I need to make something similar and I do want to vacuum the air out. Always thought I would need infusion resin which is thinner. But looks like regular resin applied with brush and later vacuuming will get good result. Thank you!
I dont even know what the hell this guy tried to do, copying original part trying to make it "better" with CF, ending into lighter part but floppy and unusable. Point of wasting carbon ?
Very cool. I'm looking into making a hood and some doors for my Solstice. Probably a little big for the vacuum bag approach, but your video helped clear up quite a few things. Thanks for taking the time.
Shouldn't you have put a layer of the resin between the layers? (for the purpose of better resin penetration?) Also why not go give a margin of error by giving an extra cm of material on each edge that could be trimmed down after?
Thanks for the video, taking the time to explain the vacuum bagging process and how to do it right! Really appreciate your time and effort and putting this video up here!
A how to with no how to. Drop the music and how bout some voice over. What product are you using why are you putting the resin on like that, what temp is appropriate for doing this kind of work ?
Zach Plier .....I realize that. But this video is damn near two years old. If you're going to criticize a video, do it to a newer one. Not a two year old one.
do you not have eyes? I could easily form my own carbon fiber panel just by watching this, he showed every step, BUT THE VACUUMING... That legally blind stuff must suck.
Thanx for showing us how easy it is to do this. Also thank you for taking the time to explain the breather cloth as that bit confused me but now makes sense. So many people wouldn't explain that. Stay Awesome :) :) :) :) :) :)
Why didnt you use any kind of ply orientation? The 4 plys need to be at atleast a 0° 90° -45° 45° to make it strong. And the project was soft, cuz u didn't cure the resin under any heat.
I really enjoyed the video, I felt that the length of the entire video was appropriate given that this is an educational video. The viewer can really see how the material soaks up the resin and that you don't need so much. I was under the impression that the carbon needed to be soaked, glad I won't be buying 1 gallon of that stuff :). Could you suggest how to make a thin panel that won't flex as much. I am planning to use the panels for covering exposed framework on my racing simulator. Thank you for your time.
Yea a yard of fiber is cheap but it takes a more then a yard to make something. I used 6 layers on the intake I made which was probably 4 yards plus the resin was $50 just for the intake. You also have cost in breather cloth, vac bag, and peal ply. Everything adds up fast.
i used 3 yards for 1 prerlude fender first layer 2x2 twill sec layer Uni Directional carbon last layer 2x2 twill 6oz 68 bucks for the fiber per fender 49 for resin.mold cost 200 for the mold set 109 for a 5 gallon bucket of resin bondo graphite and resin for gel coat 60 bucks 50 yard roll of chop strand mat . 317 for a set of 1500 dollar's fenders with the leftover supply's i made dash glove box and center console facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=344463578962135&set=a.344463565628803.80906.100001954886155&type=1&theater facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=265397690202058&set=a.265397020202125.64066.100001954886155&type=3&theater
TheFabForums.com Exactly, as if they couldnt figure out how to turn the sound down... Thank you for uploading, i appriciate the time it took to edit! :)
Look at videos for making pre-preg layups. I am in aviation and by not having enough saturation of the resin you'll have separation and soft spots. You can use plastic sheet under and pour resin over and then another plastic sheet then squeeze the resin from center outward . Do one sheet at a time. Then stack up on your shape.
+John Goodman Yeah I have seen some videos on prepreg layup before. I dont have any of the issues you mentioned, I am sure to saturate each layerwell and the vac back makes sure it is well bound.
hmmmm I've done quite alot of carbon moulding & I've never came across any carbon fibre sheets like that 1 piece, zero fibre you've used here 1st you'd never cut genuine sheets on top of any fibre sheets as the fine strands get everywhere & can screw any work up within a millisecond 2nd you'd never touch any fibre sheet with sticky fingers as again you'd move the individual fibre strands aka screwing your work up within milliseconds then there's the vacuuming ok that was fine but Erm the soft very flexible sheet produced hmm very odd a single sheet of genuine carbon fibre with resin even without being vacuumed, produces a stiff not very flexible sheet unlike what's shown here... this looks more like the eBay style item which in essence turn out to be plastic imitation carbon plastic sheet with resin on top.... seriously just no
Lol...you should have read all the other comments and watched all my other "real carbon fiber" videos before spending so much time telling someone things they already know.
+The Fab Forums then why give a miss leading video/title if uknow the tips wouldn't help anyone else trying to create carbon parts.... I've just had a flick through your videos & Yeh you've uploaded alot of genuine carbon parts but this "in the video" come on....... it looks like you've made some blumming good carbon parts this vid lets you down
+Mal Peacock Its not miss leading. The idea was to show the steps/layers involved in a vac bag layup. Which I did. The CF fabric I used was a genuine Carbon Fiber Fabric with a binding agent...designed to be used on non contoured shapes. When producing the video I didnt think the state of the fabric would get so many panties in a bunch, but I guess I was wrong. Whats crazy is I have yet to see one person that has criticized my video to actually have there own carbon fiber video youtube.
+The Fab Forums that's understandable to a point, regarding the carbon videos... yes I'd agree, however I know I've made parts only made, tested upon trial fitment & implemented for use... & never even considered recording the process (that was also to minimise ppl copying the idea of the part created regarding the carbon used here I've never seen nor heard of this hence why I've made the comment.. if it's a genuine carbon "my apology" I'm only used to the full on fabric which is annoying to work with. hence the points I've mentioned as even touching the sheet would cause issues as uknow.... Erm regarding the binding agent, I'd mention that in the description for ppl to understand
+The Fab Forums Im a composite boat builder, building race yachts from carbon fibre prepreg and resin infusion for many years, including americas cup yachts. That looks very weak like the resin needs a post cure to fully cure or its not mixed properly? also you didnt wet out layer 1 before layer 2 went down was that just because its a quick how to guide or you trying to soak extra resin up? also im more interested in is what weight was this cloth? 200gram? looks so flimsy. not knocking it all the steps were correct although the peel ply mentioned was actually holy plastic, peel ply is put down before hand to give a rough surface when removed that is easy to give a quick sand before secondary bonding if thats involved, obviously not in this case. nice cheap quick easy mould too +
Making this is always fun but takes exact measurements and some math, they made me learn this in my last semester of aviation helicopter building!😭 and that's how I became a welder hahaha! Still miss it sometimes though.. it's art!
Good effort, bad tutorial. It was nice of this guy to take his time and do the video, but he did it wrong, here's why: True carbon fiber composite is supposed to be stiff by nature, very stiff. It doesn't need "contours" to be stiff. If you want to make something that's stronger than cheap plastic and looks good, then this video is great for that. If you're trying to make proper CF composite, don't follow this video, look elsewhere.
Michael R. Zupcak you are right, you are not the only one. I have had several tell me what I did was wrong, although none of them have any videos on their own channel showing the "proper" way to make carbon fiber. Including you! My advise to you is make your own videos, get at least ONE subscriber and then you might have a little clout when it come to telling someone else they don't know what they are doing. Let me know when get your video up Mr. Cupcak and I will be sure to take notes.
TheFabForums.com I don't have to make my own carbon fiber to tell you yours is wrong. Just like I don't have to go run for congress if I want to criticize my local representative. Also, I've been getting Cupcaked since I was about 7.
I've carbon fiber wraped strut caps and shifter bezel on my charger. I'm thinking of tackling a cai tubing with a k@n filter. Still researching unsure on method for tubing and radius's. I could tig up aluminum and wrap it but I want the lightweight strength of solid carbon fiber.
this video is too long, should of sped up the video or edit out more of the unnecessary. like I dont need to sit here for 2 minutes just seeing him spread mold release, let him do a few strokes then cut it to the next step. The info and content is good, which is why i clicked in the first place, but the delivery was just so boring.
What about......?..... the names I gave you are suppliers of Fiberglass, Carbon F, Kevlar, Resin materials... In their vast library of fiberglass and carbon fiber how to videos, you will see how it is done correctly...not the back yard way...the SFI way!
There is a certain amount of layers you need and you have to orientate the fiber patter in many different directions for any real stiffness. There are charts you follow that detail this pretty well if you looking for something more structural. I have seen composites that rival the strength of aluminum at a fraction of the weight in aerospace structures.
Damn Kyle. Years later and folks still complaining on flimsy panels. I wonder how many people have true carbon fiber on their pieces. All of my sprint car bodies are absolutely flimsy until you start bolting them down. We used to use fiberglass panels these carbon panels are stronger and lighter. They also wiggle just like the panel you have in this video. I don't think people understand that there are several different levels of carbon fiber just like aluminum. You have hobbyist all the way to Aerospace. Prepreg with an autoclave does get you the absolute stuff. Even my carbon fiber racing seat that is SFI 38.1 is wet lay up and vacuum bagged at room temperature.
Great example of how much better it is to used resin infusion. You can tell by the peel ply there will be microscopic voids however if its just for the look of carbon then this method is okay(very hard to see voids in carbon vs glass and basalt. Not to mention resin infusion limits toxins breathed in from the epoxy hardener.
Jonathan Moynihan This part would have turned out exactly the same if I would have used infusion. I try to show techniques that the average person can use and infusion is a little intimidating for most.
nice tutorial video.... a quick question.. if you want to add bit more strength or I should say, firmer, what would be the best solution? add more carbon sheet layers?
Wow you youtube channel is awesome, liked and subscribed. I'd love if you could make more videos about forged carbon ... or how to DIY an entire new redesign dashboard for any car ...
We do carbon fiber as well. Sometimes, we feel to deal with the surface to make a better finish is much more complicate than forming the shape, it needs patient and skills
I have fiberglass repairs to make on a sailboat. Would this bag and vacuum method work on a large project like that and would the carbon fiber adhere to fiberglass? Would the repair be stronger than a regular fiberglass repair?
your vid is so cool. but I would like to know if I was to use wire mesh as my form could I lay the fiberglass the same as you did and then put the vac on there? I was thinking to bag the hole thing and leave the wire in the middle.
you could do that. The wire mesh may make the part heavy though. A lot of people stretch fleece over a frame and coat with resin. Once the resin hardens they use that as a base for their carbon or glass.
Hi, if you gave some info about the weight of the carbon fibre people would maybe not wonder about the flexibility of that composite. And let me mention one thing about your bending of the plastics that looks more like PE to me than ABS: when you bend a thermoplastic plate and have any resistance while bending the material gives you feedback that it is not ready for bending yet. Means the material is partially formed elastic and will bend back more or less during the next hours and days. For a shape where the angle is important and especially when the curing time is long I would surely apply the heat for a longer time.
shortbreadbakery man your intense...lol. The plastic was only used short term as a mold...the video it self was just made to show the steps involved in vacuum bagging carbon fiber, and I never thought people would make such a big deal out of the flexibility. That is why the weight was not important to mention. The finished product was not as important as the steps it took to get there.
yes, but the curing time is surely a few hours. Anyhow, I just don`t like to bend something that bends back (a little) on its own. Of course it depends on the purpose.
I believe what you ended up receiving was pre impregnated carbon fiber which was not stored in a refrigeration unit. That caused it to cure to a very thin sheet of carbon which you could add resin to later.
Was it proper carbon fiber and not a plastic then? Because the carbon strands resist bonding to other carbon except at extremely high temperatures like a plasma stream.
WTH not a single comment or instruction on this "instructional" video. LOL I learned more from my instructor with a thick Chinese accent OVER THE PHONE when I had questions.
cool stuff, I think I'll check your vids and website I always wanted to make something out of carbon not the pseudo crap covering or a veneer but the real thing seems like it's not so hard but needs some tools to start working with at least now I know where to start
In aerospace composites we use a bleeder cloth and then a breather because just one breather will soak up all the resin and not be a breather anymore. But this is exactly the same process for airplanes!
Thank you very much for this video!!!! Im going to deff start making things for my car. Carbon fiber dash, body parts, internal parts and lots more. I could use my current dash as a stencil right?
Im making a carbon fiber swith plate for a switch on my boat. What is best tool to use to cut out the opening for the switch? Should I precut it before wrapping or after?
Every day metal drill bit is fine after the part is made. Carbon has low sheer strength against the weave, so make sure it is supported with a block of wood behind when you drill.
Thanks. I was just making a panel for a honda S2000. This particular panel was very strong but carbon fiber can be very strong when needed. I have videos of a intake manifold i made with it and it was very strong.
I have a mold of my own for an RC boat hull, and I wanted to know if you could help me out. when I wax with mold release wax ( the stuff you use in this video) do i leave to dry and then put the base layer of resin on or do I wax on wax off for 4-6 times like its says on the can and put the first resin layer on after i take the last layer of wax off to allow for my part to come out? thank you and great videos!!
ok thanks. it parted!! but there are like a decent amount of air bubbles on the surface of the carbon. any tips on how to deal with them or patch them?
I also have those some times. You can buy a roller used to work out any air bubbles prior to bagging. If you have bubbles after, you can give it a lite sanding and re apply resin to fill any pin holes or bubbles.
question: how much it would cost to me to buy all these equippment (vacuum bagging, tools, liquids) for making my own carbon fiber? thanks.Nice video bdw very helpful. :) thanks
I Think it was a great video ! I will be using this process to make Panels for my Axial Wraith. where did you say you got the supplies ? and about how much did it cost you to make that piece of carbon fiber if you don't mind me asking ?
Thanks...i have a list of suppliers on the for (thefabforums.com) under the buyers resource section. The panel I made in this video may have cost $30 for all supplies.
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YAY FLEXIBLE CARBON FIBER PANELS!!!!!!!!!! Someone fucked up on mixing up the hardener.
I must say I am a huge fan of your channel it seems there is not anything you can't fabricate and it is refreshing to be able to watch someone that shows you the right way to do things when UA-cam is flooded with so many hacks thanks
thanks man
Carbon fiber looks awesome, I want whole my house made of it.
Thumbs up for the little girl helping her daddy at 3:50 min. That's so awesome seeing family in the picture. Kind of brings everything into perspective doesn't it?
collosus simpson Thanks...Love when the kids hang out in the shop with me.
Wouldn't the panel have been stronger if you would have alternated the weave so that they crossed with each layer? It may be this part did not need the additional strength but am I correct in thinking the alternate weave would be stronger?
Thanks for sharing this, very valuable and your video was clear and HD is always a plus...;)
I need to make something similar and I do want to vacuum the air out. Always thought I would need infusion resin which is thinner. But looks like regular resin applied with brush and later vacuuming will get good result. Thank you!
Good work! Hope I can also learn some day! I need a new hobby!
I don't if you laugh as hard as I do looking back at these old vids. A lot has changed.
The music sounds like several minutes of "mop mop hey you're a turkey."
yergaderga interesting
+Samuel Mason How on Earth did you get to that conclusion? Haha
I am now saying "mop mop hey you're a turkey" to the beat over and over again. hahaha thanks. 😩
+yergaderga hahahahahahahahhahahahah wtf soo oddly true
yergaderga Oml now I can't hear anything else
Well done, this video shows me the basics on how to do my first project.
No it doesn't, zero explanation of steps or materials used.
You're putting the fibers in same direction on both layers.. and the abs bend could easily be cut and glued back at angle. Looks great tho.
This narration is spot on. I've never seen a tut where they explain everything so thoroughly. Should really get an award for writing.
Morgan Norman Glad you like it
Gotta love Twill weave!
It is amazing that carbon is so strong used in supercars to make them but still so soft can be cut using a a pair of scissors 😍
yeah
Looks nice, but seems the original part was stiffer.
That's what she said.
original prob had more layers to it
But was it lighter??
Of course the original part was stiffer! Look at the two thicknesses!
I dont even know what the hell this guy tried to do, copying original part trying to make it "better" with CF, ending into lighter part but floppy and unusable. Point of wasting carbon ?
Very cool. I'm looking into making a hood and some doors for my Solstice. Probably a little big for the vacuum bag approach, but your video helped clear up quite a few things. Thanks for taking the time.
David Lively No problem.
I'm going to carbon fiber the crap out of ever thing now
+Jeff Wenz lol...thats awesome. That was my goal. We have a lot going on here for some inspiration: thefabforums.com/main/index.php?board=34.0
Good basic vid....I used to do professional lay-up and vac bag and you did a good job.
Shouldn't you have put a layer of the resin between the layers? (for the purpose of better resin penetration?) Also why not go give a margin of error by giving an extra cm of material on each edge that could be trimmed down after?
also what is the cure time and set temperature for your resin?
I did put layers of resin between each layer. I usually do use excess fabric but for this part it wasn't needed.
on this project it took several hours to kick at room temperature. I currently use a resin that kicks in about an hours at 75-80 degrees
What is best carbon fiber for getting into tight places and contours ?????
Might have to make some carbon fiber glasses with this simple technique ! Well dam thank you !!
Girl: "Daddy look what I made"
Dad: "You must take after your mother. Look at my bad ass carbon fiber panel"
Thanks for the video, taking the time to explain the vacuum bagging process and how to do it right! Really appreciate your time and effort and putting this video up here!
Chris White thanks for the feedback, glad I was able to help
A how to with no how to. Drop the music and how bout some voice over. What product are you using why are you putting the resin on like that, what temp is appropriate for doing this kind of work ?
ashcan1979 its an old video of mine.
ashcan1979 "Published on Sep 9, 2013" Maybe don't be a dick for no reason.
***** it can still be old footage published recently
Zach Plier .....I realize that. But this video is damn near two years old. If you're going to criticize a video, do it to a newer one. Not a two year old one.
do you not have eyes? I could easily form my own carbon fiber panel just by watching this, he showed every step, BUT THE VACUUMING... That legally blind stuff must suck.
Why is this so satisfying to watch
jaden varela lol... I have no idea
Cos youre not the one getting covered in sticky shit.
Its just made of some ABS plastic
Do you leave any drying time in between layers?
no because I want all the layers to dry together under the compression of the vacuum bag
Ok thanks
By the way good video
Thanks...appreciate the feedback
darude - sandstorm
Thanx for showing us how easy it is to do this. Also thank you for taking the time to explain the breather cloth as that bit confused me but now makes sense. So many people wouldn't explain that. Stay Awesome :) :) :) :) :) :)
BEN HOWMAN Thanks or the feedback Ben
Your Welcome :)
I like your pink scissors (01:35)
thanks
The wife has the same pair
Coolest thing bout this, looks like your little girl is helping daddy.
Yea she is a helper for sure.
what did u use to to vaccuum seal it?
A seal and a vacuum cleaner...duh!
i didnt know that could be possible to work carbon fiber in your home. Nice video
Yea I have several complex carbon vids on my channel
Why didnt you use any kind of ply orientation? The 4 plys need to be at atleast a 0° 90° -45° 45° to make it strong. And the project was soft, cuz u didn't cure the resin under any heat.
I did, if you watch when I am cutting the fabric you will notice each layer is oriented different
Vary well, nice video BTW :-)
thanks
I commented on this one. I did watch the bracket plate last night. couldn't find finish product of alternator bracket but I'm sure it's awesome.
+Ryan Fischer Yea I have not finished the alt bracket just yet
i love vid man but it is a little slow
I really enjoyed the video, I felt that the length of the entire video was appropriate given that this is an educational video. The viewer can really see how the material soaks up the resin and that you don't need so much. I was under the impression that the carbon needed to be soaked, glad I won't be buying 1 gallon of that stuff :). Could you suggest how to make a thin panel that won't flex as much. I am planning to use the panels for covering exposed framework on my racing simulator. Thank you for your time.
Thanks for the feedback. If the panel has some contours or ribs in it, it will make it very stiff. You can also put a layer of foam between layers.
@Joni Papuli I have no idea. What makes you think its cheap to make?
cjcompositestechnology. c o m 20 a yard
Yea a yard of fiber is cheap but it takes a more then a yard to make something. I used 6 layers on the intake I made which was probably 4 yards plus the resin was $50 just for the intake. You also have cost in breather cloth, vac bag, and peal ply. Everything adds up fast.
i used 3 yards for 1 prerlude fender first layer 2x2 twill sec layer Uni Directional carbon last layer 2x2 twill 6oz 68 bucks for the fiber per fender 49 for resin.mold cost 200 for the mold set 109 for a 5 gallon bucket of resin bondo graphite and resin for gel coat 60 bucks 50 yard roll of chop strand mat . 317 for a set of 1500 dollar's fenders with the leftover supply's i made dash glove box and center console facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=344463578962135&set=a.344463565628803.80906.100001954886155&type=1&theater
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I was just curious
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Wow!
Just discovered this video, and really digging the shirt.
I have been watching your channel for years and absolutely love it.
thanks man
The music sucked more than that vacuum. SO EFFING ANNOYING!!
lol...thanks for your feedback
lol..some people are just haters
TheFabForums.com Exactly, as if they couldnt figure out how to turn the sound down...
Thank you for uploading, i appriciate the time it took to edit! :)
stertheder always gonna have those that hate. Thanks for the feedack
Look at videos for making pre-preg layups. I am in aviation and by not having enough saturation of the resin you'll have separation and soft spots. You can use plastic sheet under and pour resin over and then another plastic sheet then squeeze the resin from center outward . Do one sheet at a time. Then stack up on your shape.
+John Goodman Yeah I have seen some videos on prepreg layup before. I dont have any of the issues you mentioned, I am sure to saturate each layerwell and the vac back makes sure it is well bound.
Right on. Thanks for your video.
no problem
Damn that thing looks flimsy...
It is
Won't dent though lol
WOW that was AMAZING .....Can you do that without the vacuum pump ?
+Mark Cam yeah
So where the fuck we get all this -.-
I have a resource section on thefabforums.com with all kinds of suppliers listed.
Good video, thanks!
I almost put the soaker on first, then the peel ply. Glad I watched this video!
Matthew Barnard glad I was able to help
hmmmm I've done quite alot of carbon moulding & I've never came across any carbon fibre sheets like that 1 piece, zero fibre you've used here
1st you'd never cut genuine sheets on top of any fibre sheets as the fine strands get everywhere & can screw any work up within a millisecond
2nd you'd never touch any fibre sheet with sticky fingers as again you'd move the individual fibre strands aka screwing your work up within milliseconds
then there's the vacuuming ok that was fine but Erm the soft very flexible sheet produced hmm very odd a single sheet of genuine carbon fibre with resin even without being vacuumed, produces a stiff not very flexible sheet unlike what's shown here...
this looks more like the eBay style item which in essence turn out to be plastic imitation carbon plastic sheet with resin on top.... seriously just no
Lol...you should have read all the other comments and watched all my other "real carbon fiber" videos before spending so much time telling someone things they already know.
+The Fab Forums then why give a miss leading video/title if uknow the tips wouldn't help anyone else trying to create carbon parts.... I've just had a flick through your videos & Yeh you've uploaded alot of genuine carbon parts but this "in the video" come on....... it looks like you've made some blumming good carbon parts this vid lets you down
+Mal Peacock Its not miss leading. The idea was to show the steps/layers involved in a vac bag layup. Which I did. The CF fabric I used was a genuine Carbon Fiber Fabric with a binding agent...designed to be used on non contoured shapes. When producing the video I didnt think the state of the fabric would get so many panties in a bunch, but I guess I was wrong. Whats crazy is I have yet to see one person that has criticized my video to actually have there own carbon fiber video youtube.
+The Fab Forums that's understandable to a point, regarding the carbon videos... yes I'd agree, however I know I've made parts only made, tested upon trial fitment & implemented for use... & never even considered recording the process (that was also to minimise ppl copying the idea of the part created
regarding the carbon used here I've never seen nor heard of this hence why I've made the comment.. if it's a genuine carbon "my apology" I'm only used to the full on fabric which is annoying to work with. hence the points I've mentioned as even touching the sheet would cause issues as uknow....
Erm regarding the binding agent, I'd mention that in the description for ppl to understand
+The Fab Forums Im a composite boat builder, building race yachts from carbon fibre prepreg and resin infusion for many years, including americas cup yachts. That looks very weak like the resin needs a post cure to fully cure or its not mixed properly? also you didnt wet out layer 1 before layer 2 went down was that just because its a quick how to guide or you trying to soak extra resin up? also im more interested in is what weight was this cloth? 200gram? looks so flimsy. not knocking it all the steps were correct although the peel ply mentioned was actually holy plastic, peel ply is put down before hand to give a rough surface when removed that is easy to give a quick sand before secondary bonding if thats involved, obviously not in this case. nice cheap quick easy mould too +
Making this is always fun but takes exact measurements and some math, they made me learn this in my last semester of aviation helicopter building!😭 and that's how I became a welder hahaha! Still miss it sometimes though.. it's art!
Looks like somebody needs help with her homework.
yea we are a team for sure
here in 2019 thinking dam bro you sure have come a long way!! keep on rising my brother!!
Nice video... but you should never handle carbon fiber without gloves.
Fibers may get into your veins and reach your heart. May cause a stroke.
Thanks for the feedback
TheFabForums.com Always wear eye protection and etc, gas mask, blabla.
Great video, but CF is dangerous when cut or sanded!
TheFabForums.com ya n i saw ur kid around there. come on dude
Perfectly safe...
San J
My son is always in the garage with me, I take offense to your ignorance.
Nice video man. I'm looking at doing a fee carbon fiber pieces for a snow rig. Nice and light! Thanks for an awesome video!
Good effort, bad tutorial. It was nice of this guy to take his time and do the video, but he did it wrong, here's why: True carbon fiber composite is supposed to be stiff by nature, very stiff. It doesn't need "contours" to be stiff. If you want to make something that's stronger than cheap plastic and looks good, then this video is great for that. If you're trying to make proper CF composite, don't follow this video, look elsewhere.
Michael R. Zupcak lol...you have no idea what your talking about.
TheFabForums.com I do, and I'm not the only one here who's told you what's what. You failed at making proper carbon fiber, get over it.
Michael R. Zupcak you are right, you are not the only one. I have had several tell me what I did was wrong, although none of them have any videos on their own channel showing the "proper" way to make carbon fiber. Including you! My advise to you is make your own videos, get at least ONE subscriber and then you might have a little clout when it come to telling someone else they don't know what they are doing. Let me know when get your video up Mr. Cupcak and I will be sure to take notes.
TheFabForums.com I don't have to make my own carbon fiber to tell you yours is wrong. Just like I don't have to go run for congress if I want to criticize my local representative. Also, I've been getting Cupcaked since I was about 7.
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Trust fund babies have absolutely nothing better to do
Really enjoyed learning more information on carbon fiber diy
Sweet...you should give it a shot
I've carbon fiber wraped strut caps and shifter bezel on my charger. I'm thinking of tackling a cai tubing with a k@n filter. Still researching unsure on method for tubing and radius's. I could tig up aluminum and wrap it but I want the lightweight strength of solid carbon fiber.
Have you seen my carbon fiber tube videos?
this video is too long, should of sped up the video or edit out more of the unnecessary. like I dont need to sit here for 2 minutes just seeing him spread mold release, let him do a few strokes then cut it to the next step. The info and content is good, which is why i clicked in the first place, but the delivery was just so boring.
lol...thanks for the feedback
Agreed
I agree! All that length of high resolution video amounts to only a few dozen bytes worth of information!
You might be interested in this short new:
www.xccarbonfiber.com/news/the-detailed-introduction-of-carbon-fiber-sheet
Thank You for making this video. I found it very informative and helpful.
The vacuum bag demo was especially helpful.
thanks for the feedback...glad I could help
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lol...do you have some vids of the "right" way?
Yes...under Fiberglast * Fiberglass Coatings * Tap Plastics.
What about Carbon Fiber?
What about......?..... the names I gave you are suppliers of Fiberglass, Carbon F, Kevlar, Resin materials... In their vast library of fiberglass and carbon fiber how to videos, you will see how it is done correctly...not the back yard way...the SFI way!
I watched your videos
There is a certain amount of layers you need and you have to orientate the fiber patter in many different directions for any real stiffness. There are charts you follow that detail this pretty well if you looking for something more structural. I have seen composites that rival the strength of aluminum at a fraction of the weight in aerospace structures.
strength comes from adding dimension to the part
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Thx for not explaining any of the resins you used, useless tutorial...
Go for it...it doesn't take long to get it figured out.
Damn Kyle. Years later and folks still complaining on flimsy panels. I wonder how many people have true carbon fiber on their pieces. All of my sprint car bodies are absolutely flimsy until you start bolting them down. We used to use fiberglass panels these carbon panels are stronger and lighter. They also wiggle just like the panel you have in this video. I don't think people understand that there are several different levels of carbon fiber just like aluminum. You have hobbyist all the way to Aerospace. Prepreg with an autoclave does get you the absolute stuff. Even my carbon fiber racing seat that is SFI 38.1 is wet lay up and vacuum bagged at room temperature.
lol...yeah
simple and in depth. thanks for the video
No problem...thanks for watching
love the tuff wheel II in the back
Great example of how much better it is to used resin infusion. You can tell by the peel ply there will be microscopic voids however if its just for the look of carbon then this method is okay(very hard to see voids in carbon vs glass and basalt. Not to mention resin infusion limits toxins breathed in from the epoxy hardener.
Jonathan Moynihan This part would have turned out exactly the same if I would have used infusion. I try to show techniques that the average person can use and infusion is a little intimidating for most.
Great video man. Taught me something new forsure
good deal...glad I was able to help
nice tutorial video.... a quick question.. if you want to add bit more strength or I should say, firmer, what would be the best solution? add more carbon sheet layers?
If I would have just put some kind or rib or dimension in the part it would have been stiff. You can also put a thin layer of foam in between layers.
Well done bro! Nice and convenient way!
thanks
Did you ever tried to copy a wheel using carbon fiber tech?
I really like your channel. Plan on watching allot more.
awesome...welcome
Wow you youtube channel is awesome, liked and subscribed. I'd love if you could make more videos about forged carbon ... or how to DIY an entire new redesign dashboard for any car ...
Great vid!
It looks pretty straight forward!
It really is. Especially if the parts you are trying to make are pretty flat
I'm really intrigued and might have to try and tackle some projects of my own.
We do carbon fiber as well. Sometimes, we feel to deal with the surface to make a better finish is much more complicate than forming the shape, it needs patient and skills
Yes I agree
I loved the relaxed and calm way you work, great video man! Thanks for it :)
thanks
What an Awesome video! Great Video tutorial on Carbon Fiber! Sweet finished Product!
thanks
Just a tip you can use nsc free music your video is good to see. I been using NSC for my vlogs it's a UA-cam channel to check out
+ddrusa you talking about NCS
I have fiberglass repairs to make on a sailboat. Would this bag and vacuum method work on a large project like that and would the carbon fiber adhere to fiberglass? Would the repair be stronger than a regular fiberglass repair?
you make it look so simple
good job
cheers
thanks o appreciate it
your vid is so cool. but I would like to know if I was to use wire mesh as my form could I lay the fiberglass the same as you did and then put the vac on there? I was thinking to bag the hole thing and leave the wire in the middle.
you could do that. The wire mesh may make the part heavy though. A lot of people stretch fleece over a frame and coat with resin. Once the resin hardens they use that as a base for their carbon or glass.
Hi, if you gave some info about the weight of the carbon fibre people would maybe not wonder about the flexibility of that composite.
And let me mention one thing about your bending of the plastics that looks more like PE to me than ABS: when you bend a thermoplastic plate and have any resistance while bending the material gives you feedback that it is not ready for bending yet.
Means the material is partially formed elastic and will bend back more or less during the next hours and days.
For a shape where the angle is important and especially when the curing time is long I would surely apply the heat for a longer time.
shortbreadbakery man your intense...lol. The plastic was only used short term as a mold...the video it self was just made to show the steps involved in vacuum bagging carbon fiber, and I never thought people would make such a big deal out of the flexibility. That is why the weight was not important to mention. The finished product was not as important as the steps it took to get there.
yes, but the curing time is surely a few hours. Anyhow, I just don`t like to bend something that bends back (a little) on its own.
Of course it depends on the purpose.
shortbreadbakery I would agree...this part never changed on me. Guess I was lucky
Great video. Real cool way of doing it. Thanks!
I believe what you ended up receiving was pre impregnated carbon fiber which was not stored in a refrigeration unit. That caused it to cure to a very thin sheet of carbon which you could add resin to later.
No its not a prepreg, it doesnt have any kind of resin.
Was it proper carbon fiber and not a plastic then? Because the carbon strands resist bonding to other carbon except at extremely high temperatures like a plasma stream.
They aren't bonded together. You can actually pull the stands apart, they just a little stiffer then standard weave
Fascinating. Do you have any more of it?
I believe I do have some left
DAMM FUUUUUUUUUUU, you growing! I remember when you had just a few subscribers. Great work.
thanks
Really cool I’ve been wanting to make a splitter from for car I’ve been using wood I’m planning on giving this a shit soon
awesome
WTH not a single comment or instruction on this "instructional" video. LOL I learned more from my instructor with a thick Chinese accent OVER THE PHONE when I had questions.
Hi, nice video. The black glossy sheet you are bending, can you tell me what material it is? I'm looking for something like this :) Thanks
Its just a piece of ABS plastic
I wonder if changing the weave direction with each layer would help much for strength
the weave direction is changed with each layer on this part.
Very informative video man thanks
no problem. thanks for watching
cool stuff, I think I'll check your vids and website
I always wanted to make something out of carbon
not the pseudo crap covering or a veneer but the real thing
seems like it's not so hard but needs some tools to start working with
at least now I know where to start
good deal...thats what I like to hear. Be sure to post your stuff on the forum.
does all of the vacuum bag stuff come in a kit? I think this would be really cool to do. Good video
Not from the place I get it.
In aerospace composites we use a bleeder cloth and then a breather because just one breather will soak up all the resin and not be a breather anymore. But this is exactly the same process for airplanes!
Mike T Thanks for the feedback Mike
That's awesome man...
How would someone go about wrapping something, if not able to vacuum seal it?
it really depends what it is that your wrapping
Thanks for the video 👍🏻 can you share any details about the vacuum fitting for the bag? Cheers!
Great videos, you make some cool stuff
Thanks...I really appreciate the feedback.
I'm getting something like this done for my cal hood on my 79 Camaro.
sweet
Nice & clean job.
thanks for the feedback
Ahh Thanx for the video.
I'm very new to the art of carbon fiber manufacturing.. but shouldn't you get the part heated or something?
Sangyoon Kim Only need heat with prepreg fabric
TheFabForums.com Oh I see.. prepreg is stronger I presume?
Yea...the curing process and the ability for precise lay up allows it to be stronger.
Thank you very much for this video!!!! Im going to deff start making things for my car.
Carbon fiber dash, body parts, internal parts and lots more.
I could use my current dash as a stencil right?
For sure.
Im making a carbon fiber swith plate for a switch on my boat. What is best tool to use to cut out the opening for the switch? Should I precut it before wrapping or after?
Every day metal drill bit is fine after the part is made. Carbon has low sheer strength against the weave, so make sure it is supported with a block of wood behind when you drill.
Cool vid. What were you making? How strong is that stuff?
Thanks. I was just making a panel for a honda S2000. This particular panel was very strong but carbon fiber can be very strong when needed. I have videos of a intake manifold i made with it and it was very strong.
I have a mold of my own for an RC boat hull, and I wanted to know if you could help me out. when I wax with mold release wax ( the stuff you use in this video) do i leave to dry and then put the base layer of resin on or do I wax on wax off for 4-6 times like its says on the can and put the first resin layer on after i take the last layer of wax off to allow for my part to come out? thank you and great videos!!
i would wax on wax off and then spray a thin layer of PVA before putting down any resin or fabric.
ok thanks. it parted!! but there are like a decent amount of air bubbles on the surface of the carbon. any tips on how to deal with them or patch them?
I also have those some times. You can buy a roller used to work out any air bubbles prior to bagging. If you have bubbles after, you can give it a lite sanding and re apply resin to fill any pin holes or bubbles.
Good video makes me want to try it.!
+Matt Feldhouse thanks
question: how much it would cost to me to buy all these equippment (vacuum bagging, tools, liquids) for making my own carbon fiber? thanks.Nice video bdw very helpful. :) thanks
and where i can buy all these?
dima nissmo You can get starter kits at makecarbonfiber.com, they should be adding more products soon.
TheFabForums.com thanks a lot, respect.
Hey, If you heat the other side of the acrylic it will bend easier, cause that is the side that needs to stretch.
it was thin enough that it heated all the way thru
I Think it was a great video ! I will be using this process to make Panels for my Axial Wraith. where did you say you got the supplies ? and about how much did it cost you to make that piece of carbon fiber if you don't mind me asking ?
Thanks...i have a list of suppliers on the for (thefabforums.com) under the buyers resource section. The panel I made in this video may have cost $30 for all supplies.
awesome, Thanks not too bad in price !
its not as high as some might think
Indeed