$500 Dating Advice (w/ Kurtis Conner)
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rich’s book cover looks like a wattpad book about werewolves
I literally saw it and I was like is Rich into... Romaaaance. That's not Alpha ! Seriously it looks like à romance about werwolves that I would considère reading hhh.
A literal *alpha* book
And worse... A/b/o...
make it gay (I would read it)
lol that’s insulting to wattpad werewolf stories
"Hey, I don't want to kiss on the first date but I'd like to see you again." That's literally it.
and then the “8 date rule” bit?? like who the fuuuuuck cares that this woman normally doesn’t like to have sex before a certain time but changed her mind???
it’s like they completely refuse to acknowledge women are full people with autonomy over their decisions.
These dudes get so in their own heads by turning their relationships into a game where you’re trying to out-strategize your partner to get what you want. They’ve amputated their ability to communicate with their partners because whatever she tells him, he’s going to treat it like some cryptic signal.
What annoys me the most is that the Rich guy told him to just communicate what he wants from the girl and the relationship. But...that's exactly what she did??? She said she didn't want to kiss yet, but wanted to see him again and they're acting as if that is bad. like, c'mon.
@@ashtonreece1893 "but but 😟 if Jenny let me do it why not *every feemayle on planet* ??? 🔫😭"
@@aidanwarren4980 BINGO!!!
Why do these men think it’s impossible to consult women on their thoughts? They try to decipher and rationalize women but never just ask her what she’s feeling. Not very alpha tbh
Because they don't believe we could possibly know what we want. 🙄
These men don’t really like women, they’d truly don’t see us as people. So I’m not surprised when they try to mystify women instead of just putting in effort trying to communicate with them
that would require them to think of us as equal to them ........
Women are into their feelings and are emotional just observe their actions
Yeah we heard that one before
"girls who have rules that they put on men," *describes consent and boundaries*
and it’s funny too bc men will put rules on women all the time. watchu know about those double standards smh
Not really, its a real thing. They break rules for alphas and make them for betas. its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@skatediary reality is sexist, its a real thing. They break rules for alphas and make them for betas. its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@RR-et6zp they break rules for manipulative men who push their boundaries and hold them for ones who don't? Damn I never would have guessed
@@lanceelliott2504 not true, with guys they deem alpha, and chore play make rules for betas . Female nature is counter-intuative. They date up, so its a signal he is higher value
"I laugh when women call themselves alpha"
What a coincidence, I laugh at men who do that
bro and like,,, i'm fairly certain in wolf hierarchies or whatever female dogs can be the alpha, its just not as common
@@scarlett6143 Actually the only case where people thought wolves were alpha/beta structured was the study that essentially popularized the term "alpha male".
Problem is, tbe scientist who made it made the huge clarification that he was mistaken and that what he saw was very simply a family of wolves where the *children* followed the *parents*
@@kiraPh1234k bro i did not know that wtf i used to watch cesar milan w my mom and i swear he used those terms. wild
@@scarlett6143 lol well at least Cesar's ideas still work regardless :p
LMAOOO
"have my way with her" is such a terrifying sentence to hear as a woman and these dudes just say it unironically and think that's fine
This 😰
You should go to jail immediately after saying "have my way with her" 🤮
You KNOW that any man who uses that expression gives zero shits about making sure the woman enjoys it as much as he does. Bet he expects regular BJ's but never returns the favor.
When I heard that my heart dropped
I'm desperately trying to think of a scenario where you could genuinely say "have my way with her" and it not be super creepy
Alpha, beta, and now PHEREMONES??? This is REALLY startin to be an AOB/Omegaverse story/fanfic
Lmao 😂 where are the alpha male videos about nesting and scent glands hahaha
Can't wait for rich to start talking about his second stomach he uses to feed his fellow alpha men.
They end up getting so into it that their books become more and more absurd and at some point the omegaverse fandom invites them in
Lmaoo I was just thinking that anyone saying stuff about Alphas, Betas, pheromones, etc. usually falls into one of three categories. 1. Misogynist Pick-up Artist 2. Teen wolf/werewolf YA fiction enthusiast 3. Omegaverse fanfiction enthusiast
Patiently waiting on my omega males with slick running down their legs and nesting
you can really boil down everything they asked about as: "girl has her own thoughts, I don't understand them, so let me ask a man completely removed from the situation." or "girl has boundaries that I want to cross, how do I manipulate her into consent?"
THIS
Exactly, so well said, these kind of men make me scared of actual good men, its that kind of alpha thinking that repulses women, and not because they’re women, but because they have actual judgment
this 100 times
Not even into consent, more like, how do I manipulate her into a situation where I can freely "have my way with her" regardless of what she thinks
@@binebine9780 imo there is very few good men so be on guard till proven otherwise and always always make jokes about these guys too gage their reactions
"Do women see you as a beta male?" I can assure you, women never think about the alpha/beta/sigma thing. Like, ever.
Bold to assume these guys believe women can think.
yes they do.
Which is why they are much more likely to reject shorter men, less rich men, less attractive men, less masculine men , etc
@@AC-mp7cx as a lady, no we don’t lol
@@AC-mp7cx the reason people think these guys don’t get girls is bc men tell them they can’t and they never shoot their shot (or don’t have good personality)
@@AC-mp7cx Being shallow is not a trait exclusive to women. I'd also argue that we have better reasons to be pickier since we're the ones who are at risk of becoming pregnant and then having to pay out of pocket for an abortion with a job that most likely pays us less, dying from an ectopic pregnancy because abortions were outlawed where we live, or being forced to suffer child birth and raise a kid on our own from a one night stand, etc.
But yeah it must be tough not getting your dick wet. 😢
that nick guy used the terms "lovebombing" and "swooped me out of the cradle" about a relationship he had when he was 17 and the woman was 22, lovebombing is an extremely common tool for abusers and groomers and he was a minor, it makes it sound like there could have been grooming or abuse involved. :/ i think he is genuinely trying to get some help, but i wish he would go to therapy rather than pay $500 to talk to this dude with no qualification.
like honestly i wish all these guys, including rich, would go see a fucking therapist. like sweet mother of god, there are professionals who were literally trained to help you with your relationship issues and whatever problems you have with finding love and human connection, just for the love of god will someone get all of these guys to a therapist.
Sadly that will never happen for so many of these guys online. I myself had to come to terms with the fact that I had social issues and that I just have to live my best life. Unfortunately some people are just not socially adept and can’t have chances at relationships like other people. That is not a reason to spread hate. So in a way I do feel for these guys but I also know that they could do so much better.
bruh its 17 relax yall
@@AC-mp7cx yeah and she was a whole adult it's literally illegal and also f*cking disgusting.
“Everybody’s replaceable.” What a sad way to view the world. I’d suspect that that’s how these kinds of guys feel about themselves so they project it onto others.
Yeah that absolutely tracks. Like, they are so afraid of being hurt or going through a tough rejection that they just never form a sincere connection with anyone and just view women as interchangable objects.
Except that quite a few of them probably are just genuine sociopaths/narcissists.
@@MaddyBlu9724 Those who are the narrcisists probably do believe this also since narcissm stems from self hate and disrespect, not love
its a very corperate way to look at the world...all business
I like to think that he picked up the phrase “everybody’s replaceable” from Abby lee Miller in dance moms. He’s just too insecure about his alpha-ness to admit it
It's so mind boggling to me how some people just actively think like this, and it's genuinely really depressing how blindsided they seem to be to how much better things could be if they just changed their perspective. Yeah, it sucks that somebody likely hurt them by leaving and prompted them to feel so replaceable, but you have to let yourself heal from that dark way of looking at things or else you'll just get stuck in it and stay miserable. "Everybody's replaceable" yeah, sure, but that's not the point. Why not allow yourself to believe that someone may not want to replace you? Thinking like that is so unnecessarily destructive to everyone they interact with, not to mention themselves.
I’m convinced these men have never asked a woman what SHE finds attractive. All they’re talking about is other male opinions and what MEN find attractive. Like, maybe ask, a woman? What women like?
The problem is they don't respect women enough to believe them about their own preferences
It’s also like weird manipulation tactics too, like they have to try and trick women into liking them lmao
@@leonardegan2883 I’m convinced all “alpha males” are attracted to men to some degree. No heterosexual would be so obsessed with appeasing the same sex lmao
@@leonardegan2883 no fr.
👩🏼🦲: so what kind of men are you into?
👩🏽: well generally I'd just appreciate one who washes his a-
👩🏼🦲: nAh baby you want this
😩 *masculinity* 🥵 I learned from my wife beating dad
:🚶🏽♀️🧍🏽♀️
"but you see the problem is women will say that they want a kind caring guy to trick you into being that so they can see how much of a beta you are and leave you"
There are few things less attractive than a man who describes himself or others as "alpha", "beta", or "sigma"
what about delta and zeta
@ashy i'm a wilma male
i'm an alpha whale
I’m a scrimblo male
what about omega 🙄🙄🙄/j
listening to these men talk about women is such a bizarre experience for me as a lesbian. like i date women too and my experience couldn't be more different. yeah sometimes they can be confusing but if you actually communicate that you can probably work around those issues. i can't imagine viewing all women as a monolith that you can hack and not as fallible, unique individuals. i guess it just comes from a lack of (and refusal to develop) empathy.
@@user-yi8hj3qd6q well because we’re women/fem aligned nb, we actually understand women and understand what it feels like to be ignored, looked down upon, spoke poorly about so we don’t want other women (especially ones we care about) to feel the same way
Yeah human emotions in general are complicated so people we date can be confusing. Its a human thing. Yet we have these guys trying to rationalize everything when in fact women might do the same for their behavior as well. Impatience for example is a common trait I always see. Like wait... GO with the flow AND LET THE RELATIONSHIP GROW.
Fr and also, its not like the confusing part is exclusive to women. Human relationships are complex and you can never 100% understand what the other person is feeling or thinking. Relationships with men (romantic or platonic) can get confusing too! Its just a part of bonding with ppl. But ofc these men like to pretend that women are the only ones that are complex while also treating them like theyre animals
@@aiaikawa4012 That's been the narrative for so long, you'd see in every single TV show with a married couple or with someone who wants to go out with a girl and all they'd always say is that women are so difficult and confusing and they say they're fine when they're not and they always say and do the opposite of what they want. They act like it's strange for a person in general to pretend they're fine because they don't want to cause issues. Men do it too, it's a human thing, not a woman thing.
Same omg, it's so weird. Idk how these guys get to this point.
You know what's super "beta"? When a woman sets her boundaries, like "I don't kiss on the first date" or "I don't sleep with anyone until at least the 8th date" and you bulldoze over that and guilt her into an uncomfortable situation...
The 8th date? Now thats just asking for trouble
women wouldnt make that rule for men they like
@@AC-mp7cx Can confirm, I usually always have sex on the first or the second date at latest.
@@davidwalz94 Ah yes your experience = women in general 💀💀
@@artemis88899 Not a woman. He's saying he wouldn't find a woman who wants to wait with sex beyond the first or second date acceptable, and she'd be "in trouble" - whatever that means
I feel bad for that dude who filmed himself on a calculator. He dated an 22 yo while he was still a child in high school and hasn’t gotten over it and now he’s buying into all the “wolf hierarchy” crap.
yeah :(( he's literally a victim. there's a serious power dynamic there
That's why he needs a real therapist and not that bald idiot to help him work through his issues.
Exactly when he was like “ I don’t know why I can’t get over her” I was thinking “ It’s cause you were traumatised dude!”
@@jahanarahgraham8003 yeah :/
That was my immediate thought. That man needs an educated and licensed counselor to help him understand and come to terms with what he went through.
A guy who doesnt understand Fight Club using it to market towards other men who don't understand Fight Club is the funniest thing I've ever heard. The two main points of Fight Club are being anti-consumerism and showing a hyperbolic depiction of masculinity... and he is using it to promote the consumption of soap that "enhances alpha status and masculinity." It's beautiful lol.
he said that the soap scene inspired him... they were using soap made of human fat how did his mind just go to "ya lemme make some of that"
100% it’s wild how many men like fight club for all the wrong reasons
buying soap as a means to overcompensate
That’s a new one
It's kinda insane to me that ppl would watch Fight Club and be like "Hell yeah, that is some tight shit, I wanna be like Tyler!" Like, how do you not get what this movie is about, it is so painfully obvious.
I refuse to believe that any male that has seen fight club understands what it’s about.
Love to see that Nick is collabing with small youtubers
Love that Kurtis is collabing with the biggest UA-camr on the platform
So nice of Nick to support small creators.
No free clout, but I see something in Kurtis. Maybe he’ll have a million subs one day and someone as huge as Nick can be on _his_ show! Very nice of Nick to help out these underground commentators like Danny, Drew, Kurtis, and Jarvis
@Holy muffin 🇮🇪 really i didn’t know
@Holy muffin 🇮🇪 That's the joke- And they've deleted their comment -_-
These men refer to women as "plates" and honestly wonder why they are having trouble with relationships? Hysterical!
its what women do. naturally, its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
KR is all alone
@@RR-et6zp So I'm a plate? Damn I went my whole life thinking I was a human... Wow this actually explains a lot...
@@Emily-oy2nq Hey, it's got its perks! You can carry food like a pro now.
@@RR-et6zp i hate to break it to you but last time i checked im a mammal, more specifically human, and i hardly find someone baiting me with worms to catch and eat me , comparable to dating. Which is supposed to be a developing partnership, rather than hunting predator -prey situation.
Id very much hate to be stalked by a predator.
“gigachad thundercock” would honestly be a hilarious drag king name lmao
I feel like we glossed over nick..he was dating someone 5 years older than him while he was still a minor. He was groomed. That’s probably why he never got over her. I feel sorry for him and how he isn’t being helped by these “alpha-male”.
yeah that was my first thought too ;//
Literally he was a minor and she was an adult
@@cherimsh I saw no one else talk about it too:/ it was so weird
@@kimmulholland7245 it’s even worse to think about how normalized it is, to have boys want/be with older women. It’s seen as “cool”. It’s literally pedophilic
Wait what can someone explain
This stuff is so sad... That guy just knows who he's attracting. Vulnerable men waiting to accidentally stumble into a trashcan thinking they hit the jackpot. "Don't put women on a pedestal.. put me on a pedestal!"
And then he proceeds to push books onto them for a profit
Exactly, the dude is pretty pathetic.
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@RR-et6zp it’s derived out y’all dirty asses
when women are put on a pedestal they hurt the man
This man literally described this woman as swooping him from the cradle when he was a minor and she was five years older... He might not be able to get over her because it was a toxic relationship to be in
Yeah it’s sounds like he has unresolved trauma that he can’t get over because he’s never acknowledged his feelings
@The Golden Boy ???
@The Golden Boy babe what
He really needs to get an actual therapist and stop getting advice from this Alpha omegaverse fanfic
In some parts of the world age of consent is 16 so that's debatable. What if it's just normal relationship and normal break up? I would have a heartbreak over that of course, but 14 years later? he may not be groomed but he clearly got some issues about dealing with breakups
men will literally pay $500 for 15 minutes instead of going to therapy
I’m glad we had Kurtis to translate the Canadian dialect for us.
I sometimes forget people don't get us
You have English, and then you have Canglish
@@veronikapermaul5531 Imagine my struggles. Me, a french Canadian.
I speak in english: People don't get my accent.
I speak in french: People still don't get my accent.
lol
Spinning plates is the "red pill" term for sleeping with multiple women while not investing in a relationship with them. Although your idea of what it should mean is better
Spinning plates is an actual art, so I really thought this guy was just randomly naming off a hobby.
“But if whamen sleep with other men that arent me they are worthless and used garbage” -this guy probably
This is the worst plot twist that happened.
@ashy tossing bowls? idk
I THOUGHT HE WAS PRACTICING DJ-ing oh nooooo 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Is no one gonna mention that Nick was a minor dating an adult? I mean the reason the poor guy can’t get over her is probably bc that was abuse-he needs a therapist, it’s really kinda sad that he-that all of these guys who are probably really struggling with insecurity-instead of getting wreak advice and help they’re just getting scammed. It’s just gross
Yeah it sounds like he was groomed and I feel sorry for him. It’s so sad that he thinks this might help him instead of reaching for real help in therapy
yeah I do really feel bad for him :(
He spent at least 500 USD on this
yeah there are guys who are suckered into this and who should have other more positive male rolemodels i guess? better ways to deal with things and understand dating? i have also known many autistic guys get pulled into this because they have trouble understanding social situations and these give clear 'rules' to help... so i have sympathy for some of these guys (though still of course condemn any misogyny they act out because of this...)
@@Lukkilikka I agree 100% and think this is a really important thing to keep in mind. Thank you for sharing!
I have never heard someone say gigachad thundercock unironically, this is some surreal stuff
As soon as I heard the woman was 22 when he was 17, I went “You’re a victim”. What you need is therapy my guy not some bald alpha male bullshit advice. But seriously I hope he gets the help he needs because he was definitely groomed.
LMAO
no.
i know i was like WHOA. are we just glossing over that ????
Sorry but Kurtis' double audio is cracking me up. It sounds like he's in another dimension
Plottwist: he is
I didn’t even notice lol
It only adds to the comedy
@@sophreakintasty3913 The other dimension that he's in is Canada
@@savi_kay Which is weird, because Canada isn’t real
If these guys really want to read books about how to attract women..... maybe they should start with books written by women? 🤔
Talk to women maybe?
Talk to women!? Are you crazy!? The only way to find out what women want is to talk to another guy about what he thinks she wants - The alpha male mentality
@@untitledchannel2536 going to other men for consultation and valuing a man’s input more than any other options... sounds pretty gay to me 🤔
@@pokaay3163 very much agree
That's a big part of the issue, I hate it. If you look at most movies from the 20's-90 (also american psycho HEAVILY), Women are typically nothing more than objects. Her entire character only involves her relationship to the male characters, how hot(or not hot) she is, and how well she accepts whatever BS the main love interest is throwing at her. Even when women say no in these movies, it's always with a weird "leading on" affect and the the entire movie is just him violating boundaries as she does a lil "🙄😄😏😉🥵" the entire time
Fellas is it gay to listen to women?
the best day of my life was when I discovered that the idea of alpha/beta/omega men stems from a study of wolves that was later completely disproven BY ITS OWN AUTHOR.
also even if it was true we’re not wolves lmfao
Like what is this watpad the old days of ao3???
And that the author has spent the rest of his career trying to correct his mistake and re-educate the public! It’s like how the author of Jaws has become a massive shark, especially White Shark (great was dropped a while back to reduce stigma in society despite great literally just being a taxonomical term for big/bigger) advocate and has legit come out in force to criticize Shark Week for furthering shark fears and harming sharks in a way that he admits his own book has harmed sharks
@@kariannstickle2708 That’s a cool story I had never heard of.
Even better the alphas they were studying ended up being mother wolves and the beta/omega were the pups
The WORST thing I hate about 'alpha' and pick up artistry, is that no matter what, in their eyes, ALL of the behavior of a woman, is about them. She ignores you, playing hard to get. She's out with friends, trying to make you jealous. Home alone? Trying to pretend she's not thinking of you. In all the videos I've seen they always say that everything a woman does is about that specific man, and not that she is her own person.
THIS! & what’s hilarious is 9 times out of 10 he hasn’t even crossed her mind for one second 😂
That's because they think we exist for them. Everything we do has to involve them somehow. So gross and insane.
When a guy goes "I set up a date" or "we went on a date", you need to find out exactly what their definition of 'date' is.
I once sat in a café with a co-worker, going through meeting notes - he then told everyone we were dating. The fact that we would frequently do this with our boss, our other team members...? Nope, didn't matter. He was apparently very upset when he found out I'd moved to another city where my long-term partner was. I say 'apparently', because we never talked. I did not know him in a social context at all.
This dude probably offered to mow the lawn she was on. That was the date.
If anyone doesn’t know already kurtis has a podcast called veryreallygood and he had nick on one of the episodes so this ain’t the first time they are collaborating
and they're together (almost) every wednesday for the baddie smp, and nick used to be a gaming channel editor for kurtis!
if anyone hasn’t seen it i recommend watching!!
@@nikoleunig7932 what
Also kurtis is his employer lol
@@arat7106 was, pretty sure Nick doesn't edit for him anymore
but yes they're far from strangers lol
If he read that book 4 times already and he’s still calling the author with questions, then I guess it’s not a very good book
If he doesnt get it, I guess he should pay $500 to ask the author, who'll recommend buying his OTHER book. Yes, THEN let's see what he ladies think!
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right
@@RR-et6zp you have one braincell
@@d.olluwu Not true. Experiment, you'll see
Or he's not a very smart man.
honestly kurtis and nick look more like the same person than danny and drew
IKR its that seggsy leftist man vibe
😂 you’re right! It’s the hair
@@smilefenn4813 yessss
turee
Nick is a city boy version of Kurt "yee yee" Conner
Kurtis' reaction to "have my way with her" was the same as mine. that is literally one of the scariest sentences a man can say about a woman imo
16:19 - poor bastard got groomed as a teen and toxic masculinity is preventing him from recognizing and dealing with that
these videos are literally so much funnier when youre a wlw
Lmao I just imagine the guy laughing at women who ‘act like alphas’ and think “oh they’re not doing it for you”
honestly I love how these guys like to pretend that only heterosexuals exist, like the sexual tension between these guys screams pretty gay to me /j
i would say you guys are lucky, but honestly dudes like this is slowly turning me gay too
@@vaishnavisingh9244 LMFAO LITERALLY
or asexual
“I believe in pheromones. I don’t believe in these products.” That’s a genius line ngl.
we also don’t have receptors for pheromones like other animals?? like the closest we have is liking someone’s body odor because they’re genetically different aka a good match. it’s like anti-vaxxers who smoke a pack a day and eat only fast food lolllllll
@@ashtonreece1893damn the people buying these make ME look smart😂
“Pheromones” “Alpha beta” What is with these weirdos and their obsession with animals? Humans aren’t undomesticated beasts, even though some people act like they are. Seems like they have another problem to address with themselves entirely, with why they want people to be wolves or something
@@ashtonreece1893 right!!! We have slight pheromones but that’s only linked to sense of smell. Even then it’s closer to none. We lost all that ages ago. And even if we did have pheromones I don’t think it would work like tgat
All those guys thinking it's the pheromones attracting women but it's really because they finally showered lmao
The guy who can’t get over his ex is a great example of how age gap relationships that young can have dynamics that scar the kid or extremely young adult
I was in med school for a couple of years and there I started hooking up with one of my teachers - I was 19 and he was almost 30, shit got so bad I had to abandon all forms of social media (except for youtube lol) and at 25 I'm still dealing with the aftermath of that "relationship", it realy does suck :(
@@eurekamreum5458 oh my goodness, I hope you're doing okay now!
It really sounds like the poor guy was groomed and assaulted. It’s clear there’s trauma there. I hope he’s able to escape the toxic red pill culture and gets some counseling.
It sucks because these red pill guys will pat him on the back, saying he’s so alpha for losing his virginity so young, so it’ll be difficult for him to breakout and he’s probably going to be very confused internally (a conflict of his actual feelings vs what red pill culture is telling him to feel and why he can’t erase his feelings or force them into what he thinks they should be) until he gets help.
“you should express your sexual interest in a woman as early on as possible” the way that’s one of the biggest red flags a lot of women including me look for in a guy✋🏼 dude literally paid 500 for advice on how to repel women lmao
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@RR-et6zp really? because me personally and all gf have rejected guys who immediately bring up sexual interest. treat us like people not objects.
@@katq832 Yes really, and no you dont act desperate in the first place lol. You need verbal game, make her feel special and act like you have options etc (women only date up )
@@RR-et6zp so what you’re saying rn is that you know women better than me (who is a woman and has friends who are girls). thanks for telling me what woman want👍maybe try not playing mind games and manipulating. expressing your sexual interest as soon as possible demonstrates that you don’t care about anything else.
@@RR-et6zp damn men really will go to any length to describe women using analogies and metaphors instead of treating them like human beings with fully functioning brains huh
That one dude literally was groomed at all the bald dude could talk about was his "value" in his 40s?! He's a victim who is quite literally still working through trauma 14 yrs later, he needs a professional not an uneducated misogynist who talks out of his ass.
Any man who idolizes Tyler Durden is the biggest, brightest red flag
Right?! I love the book and movie but Tyler isn’t the person you should idolize
Lol, yeah, if you like the movie, awesome, but if you idolize the characters, you missed the point completely and I don't feel comfortable around you
It’s like watching The Hunchback of Notre Dame and thinking “This Frollo guy knows what’s up.”
Some things about him are admirable, some are distasteful to say the least. His bravery and attitude towards materialism; that nonchalant-ness is admirable. The way he treats the men under him and Marla is really scummy and the fact he just totally goes against the very thing he was preaching in the beginning of the movie. He was never meant to be idolized. He's a caricature of the hyper-masculine ideal men that are a bit sick have in their heads.
I’m having a hard time taking Andrew Esquire seriously. Not only because he’s talking about being alpha, but he’s talking about being alpha while having a tie that looks like it was tied by a 16 year old going to his first dance
Okay I’m not the only one who noticed how bad it looked, thank you!
Calling yourself Alpha just seems like an immediate red flag, sewn with insecurity and some overcompensating. Will never catch me saying I’m “Alpha” anything un-ironically like I’m some sort of dog lol
The guy at 13:25 is soooooo close to realizing all of the alpha male stuff is bullshit.
He’s essentially realizing that when man act “Alpha” women don’t like it and his response is “what’s wrong with these women” instead of it being “what’s wrong with the way I’m acting”.
He realizes that he’s acting in a way that women don’t like and then he is shocked when women don’t like the way he’s acting.
Like. Bro. BRO. B R O.
This is good though. That means there is hope for him to break out.
It’s always “blame everyone else for my own actions” instead of “maybe I need to self reflect a bit and stop whining. Maybe I’m the problem” with them lmao. Sadly, even the comments here are filled with insecure people who’d rather blame women as a whole for their own many, many flaws. Like, dude… c’mon
Soooo close to self awareness 😩 like yeah no shit women don't like this behavior?! That was frustrating to watch bc he couldn't figure out that the alpha bullshit IS the problem
these red pill guys are so funny, especially since the whole concept of choosing the pill in the matrix is COMPLETELY misunderstood by them? like, if anything it's a metaphor for trans identity or living in a capitalist nightmare, not whatever the hell they've conjured up. also the matrix was written by a woman, and directed by the wachowski SISTERS??
idolizing tyler durden, a character from a film satirizing masculinity, and using the phrase "redpill" the way they do when it is from a film about being trans and the red pill was literally a metaphor for estrogen. incredible. truly living on a different plane of existence, these men
the seventeen year old who’s still upset over a relationship he was in with a twenty two year old twelve years later… just sounds like he was a bit groomed and dealing with the aftermath emotional pain!
He definitely had cptsd , brother needs a support system and a better partner in his life. Hope he’s doing ok tbh what he said hit home
100%ly agreed, ur totally right and this is random af but I love ur profile pic just being a fish from animal crossing: pocket camp. idk the Englisch name but the German one it "Flunder" and I love that fish bc it looks so funny lol
We anti alpha shit are out here with empathy and concern for the dude. Imagine if he came round and realized people give a shit about his situation and recognize that what the woman did was likely manipulative grooming and that it doesn’t matter the gender of the older or younger person, this shit is wrong! Dude seems so close to a breakthrough but he’s just getting tied further and further into knots. It’s so sad to see
*Looks up Rollo, first thing is a tweet complaining about feminists
Nice, this ought to be good
Is ought a Canadian slang?
@@pine8658 No, "Ought" is not slang...
"Ought is definitely an English word. It is a modal verb that is almost always followed by to + the infinitive form of a verb, as in these examples:
1. They ought to be here by now.
2. There ought to be a gas station on the way.
3. He ought to have known better.
4. You ought to get some rest."
Link for more:
www.learnersdictionary.com/qa/is-ought-a-word-or-just-slang
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ought
- This word is standard in America
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 I'm thankful and confused at the same time
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 Fun to see a fellow grammar nazi in the wild!
Also, it’s pretty crazy that there exists people who have never heard the word “ought” before 🗿
These types of men clearly don't see women as whole people with their own emotions and thoughts. They don't. They see women as lesser, as prizes to be won, objects
They also see women as a monolith
women objectify themselves. and naturally women, they are prizes. if they're young nd hot, that is.
16:56 are we not going to talk about the fact that this chick was 22 and the dude was 17…yikes.
I would love nothing more than an "alpha" book that starts out sounding completely normal (to these guys) but slowly throughout the book it becomes increasingly more homoerotic. the book comes to a close and it is 100% gay. I would not only read that but love the reactions of these weirdos.
Honestly same Lmaoo but wait until like halfway through until they get invested in it 😂
best idea
Love this idea! Lol I'd buy that book myself. I realized years ago that that was the root of these creeps' problem: they need to come out of the closet and face up to their repressed homosexuality. There's a reason they're always chasing after the approval of "the BROS," and exalting "the BROTHERHOOD" over wives/girlfriends, and prefer "BROmance" to heterosexual romance.
Fun fact: Tommy Sotomayor was actually caught in bed with another guy. And his followers didn't even care! LOL. Says a lot.
@@astridl1848 PLEASE the way they just did not care 😭
This is sooo funny. Id loveee to see this😂😂😂
A collab between an ex editor and his ex editee. So emotional.
Nick isn’t just an editor
@@hnestly1355 he is everything
Editor kurtis with editee Nick😌
nick doesn't edit for kurtis anymore!!
@@meadow4115 yea he said he doesn't edit for him anymore, this was a joke from the last minecraft stream lolol
"A lot of guys are lied to and told to find a girl with similar interests like doing shots, drinking whiskey going to adult clubs" imagine if drinking and going to strip clubs were your whole personality oh my god 😂😂
basically these dudes were told to date another dude? 🤣
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@megsley Lots of these "alpha" podcasters basically say that you should only be in a relationship with a woman is that they can provide the ONE THING that another man can't - hetero sex. "Don't be vulnerable with your partner" "Men and women never share hobbies" etc. etc.
Basically saying without saying that women have only one purpose and that's sex. No wonder they're all such fucking creeps
@@RR-et6zp yes feed me more baseless incel logic mmm
@@RR-et6zp women are not prey like fish are, women WANT to find a man to be in a relationship with, fish dont want to get caught. Your analogy makes no sense. Also its extremely obvious that you have no understanding of evolutionary biology, in fact judging from your comment I doubt you have any understanding of biology beyond a high school level.
i had to take multiple breaks from watching this video even with kurtis and nick lightening the mood because the way these men discuss women is so deeply scary and horrifying to hear. i’m almost getting tired of making fun of these guys because the way they talk about consent is so horrific it goes beyond what can be funny
I agree ☹️ bleck
I love how nick kurtis and other great commentary youtubers call out this alpha male/ toxic dating advice/ scam businesses (men should call out other men), but I would love to see a collab with a women commentary youtuber. I just feel like there would be some interesting insight and a more intimate understanding of how harmful this mentality is to women.
Yes absolutely!
14:20 he's literally saying "what do you do if a woman genuinely like you as a person and doesn't like when you try to act like an 👊🐗Alpha Male🐺👊 because you said alpha males are what all woman like so why she not like it when she supposed to like it??? "
He's so close to realizing the alpha male stuff is bs and it's not what the majority of women want but he's holding on to the idea soooo hard
that dude at like 14 minutes basically asked "so why do you say women like this when no women like this" and the guy just completely changed what he asked cus hes legitimately just taking advantage of these dudes.
I love how all this “alpha men” look up to Taylor Durden from Fightclub and totally miss the point of the whole movie which is a satire and criticism of toxic masculinity along sixe other things
Exactly 🙌
LITERALLY .
Also the author is gay
he even missed the point of the soap making part of the movie and what it's trying to convey. these dudes look seriously dense in the head bro, I feel sorry for them
@@dadbodenvy4247 chuck palahniuk is gay? No wonders my 14 yes old closeted set was obsessed with every book he's ever written.....
I think if he was 17 22 is a illegal amount of older
Yeah, that’s a weird age gap.
yeah that stood out as a red flag to me lol I’m not sure why they didn’t point that out
@Babba Yaaga yeah!! like no wonder he found it so hard to get over. poor guy :(
YEP 17 is a child!!!!
@@roguestowl2280 How, it's only 5 years, she's pretty much just barely in her second year of college.
Nick would have just been going to college the following year, had he been in college at 18, would it still be grooming? What if he was 20 and she was 25? is it still grooming? When does it stop being grooming? When he's 25 and she's 30? Or when he's 30 and she's 35?
When does it just become a normal relationship?
16:06 damn he was a minor and she was 22 that pour guys prob got some kinda trauma and thats why he cant get over is oof
18:09 yeah, that Nick guy was groomed! He should probably go to a therapist about this.
As someone who doesn't button his button up completely and has read pride and prejudice multiple times kind of obsessively. I felt very second-hand roasted by this video.
Woooow look at this beta! Real alphas can’t even read!
2β4me
Unbuttoned buttons? Lol more like... you... you paid for them aren't you gonna use em all? Hahaaaaa gottm
Pride and prejudice is the perfect book to reread 😍 I’ve read it 5ish times. I’m sure you’re kidding but don’t feel bad lol
@@samanthab9340 Yeah I'm autistic and it's a hyperfixation so I don't feel bad lol but it was pretty funny.
@@ArturGlass.C I adore Pride and Prejudice! If you're looking to branch out a bit, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is also very fun. I read the two books at the same time, and it was great (movie version of P&P&Z sucks though lol)! I've also started The Other Bennet Sister by Janice Hadlow (its essentially the book from Mary's perspective if she also had a love interest), and its pretty good so far.
no way!! he’s finally collabing with noel miller
I thought this was jarvis johnson
Wait we’re not Greg?
wait this is obviously cody ko ?? hes canadian ??
Bro I thought this was Scott Cramer the entire time
The fact that I watch every single one of these is crazy
Why do they treat women like they're on an episode of crocodile Dundee trying to lure some wild 🐱
🤣
Guys who think 'pheromones' work are so hilarious to me. Like dude it's just cologne that smells good. It doesn't attract women it'll just get you a compliment at most.
Good colgone is a game changer tho, make the experience of everyone around you much more pleasant
@@duyanhng8430 yeah, but also make sure to not overdue the cologne. It usually burns our noses
tbh who doesn't love a nice smelling guy?
a guy with good higiene is instantly 200% more attractive
“He’s an old white man who has a podcast with 4 other old white men” that sentence is a literal representation of my own personal Hell
You should be proud of your race.
anyone who says "high value" "low value" to talk about men and women is the reddest of the red flags
that guy nick talking about how his gf was 22 when he was 17 is yiiiiikes on the womans part. it might have something to do with why acts the way he does now...
I think so too. He’s literally a victim.
@@starrysycophant Isn't it also a Crime? In some places the age of consent is 16, or 17, but some are above that, I think, so couldn't she be arrested for having something with a literal minor? I feel bad for him, but maybe he is getting help? Like actual help, not consolting this rich-Guy about it.
@@ivermory3283 yeah it depends on where he was but no matter what it was definitely not good, like they couldn’t have even met in high school bc the gap is that big
@@ivermory3283 I think it's just outside the Romeo and Juliet laws too, since that only excuses 4 year age gaps with minors
kurtis is the only one who should be giving dating advice, him and jenna have the best relationship
agreed
his book is called '''The Unplugged Alpha'' but he plugs it every second
...Based on Tyler Durden? The...the not real dude that was in the narrator's head? The sleep deprived induced hallucination of a borderline catatonically depressed man...? THAT Tyler Durden? The one played by Brad Pitt who apparently doesn't wear deodorant? THAT Tyler Durden?
The vast majority of their issues would be resolved by literally just communicating with the women
Yeah but that would involve acknowledging them as humans and we can't have that
@@shawnalynn5198 Awe dang, you're right
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@dustiibunnii reality
If rich and andrew got married, our boy will become "Rich Esquire" and that's the most alpha name I've ever heard
Okay yes but also I think the Esquire is there to indicate he’s a lawyer lol
I ship it
I'm sorry but Andrew looks like one of the boss babies with a sharpie beard. Also, extra gross that they describe women's personal boundaries as "rules for men." If I'm not comfortable around you, that's it. It's not some "rule to be broken" like I'm a dog.
''We tried seeing what women liked in relationships!
WE ASKED A MAN!!''
That’s such a shitty way of viewing people and relationships. Sure, at the most basic level, everyone’s replaceable. But a great love isn’t replaceable. You can have another great love, but it doesn’t get rid of the one you had before. I feel sad for alpha males who think any girl who doesn’t kiss their feet isn’t worth their time. I can’t imagine how insecure these dudes gotta be deep down. Like really, what are you compensating for?
I can't help but feel a bit bad for he guy whose gf was 22 when he was 17.......bro ur a victim :((
Bro, it's a 5 year gap, it's not that big of a deal.
By your logic 17 year old's shouldn't be hooking up with 19 year olds, despite them basically being SO fucking close in age.
@@wastedproductions45 No, by my logic a 17 year old shouldn't be dating a 22 year old since that's what I literally said numbnuts
@@wastedproductions45 A 5 year age gap is okay if they're both ADULTS.....not if one of them is still old enough to be in high school.
@@isitleeyourelookingfor6352 But why though? She's barely old enough to drink and he was basically just about to start college the following year.
Had he been 18 and she been 22, is it still grooming? Both are in college by this point and he's legally an adult according to the state.
There's also the whole thing surrounding the brain not fully developing until they're 25, in which case I assume you would make the same argument had he been 20 and she been 25 or 30, right?
I'm just checking for some consistency in the logic here.
@@wastedproductions45 5 years is a big difference before the brain is fully developed. Teens-young 20s are a time of life that's full of massive changes, so each year is a pretty big leap from the last. I think it's pretty clear that a 22 year old has far more life experience than a 17 year old. A 22 year old can drink, go to clubs, and is considered an adult by society. A 17 year old is likely still in high school. It's weird.
hii nick's editor!! i really appreciate you!!!! youre hella cool and your editing is great, have a nice day
Did these guys turn dating into an MLM?
FR
Another good term is highway robbery
my brain is so polluted by the internet that i genuinely cant tell if you mean male loving male of multi level marketing
As a female, it’s terrifying that there are men walking around thinking this way and having an influence over younger men thinking this way.
A good fiend of mine constantly listens to this guy and it's worrying
they are completely right, its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right
@@evannn6277 its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@RR-et6zp why are you responding to almost every comment lmao. and with the same respond.. this is not the right place for you. go watch some alpha podcast 😂
“I listened to the advice of a clinical psychologist who is an expert on pheromones.”
Saying “I got scammed” is way faster bud
"Have my way with her" is only acceptable in the context of a non native English speaker still learning the language, in a karaoke bar, and he's about to choose a song to perform with a woman - and they've settled on "My Way".
the third dude was fucking groomed 😭 man cant get over it cause he was traumatized
the editor bit and the "alright asshole" made me laugh more than it should have
He's probably not over her because he was 17 and she was 22. That's a five year gap for someone who is still very young. Sorry something isn't right there
16:40 wait- he was 17- SHE WAS 22- mans needs therapy not a podcast...
they act like they're in middle school and cannot possibly comprehend communicating w the girl to find out where their head is at
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish
@@RR-et6zp they're not.an important part of dating is communiccating with who you want to date
@@why7928 haha , blank slate equalism and social constructionism do not exist. Biological instincts exist , they respond to different things and want different things, obviously
I love you guys but i think that it would have been worth while to mention that the guy who was 17 with a 22 y/o was inappropriate. He is wrong for being sexist but that definitely sounded more like trauma rather than "the one" again, love you guys no hate
absolutely agree... it definitely sounds like he was groomed
they might not have mentioned it cuz it's technically legal in a lot of places
@@roadkill8577 something being legal doesnt make it morally okay
@@samcork831 i'm very aware of that and i think that relationship was predatory as well. it really depends on personal morals unfortunately
@@roadkill8577 oh yeah of course, im just a little disappointed that they didnt mention it being morally wrong to them. im sure they just missed the detail but yanno
It’s really cool of you to let small youtubers like kurtis on your channel
The fact that the soap guy entirely missed the point of Fight Club is funny to me
On today’s episode of “men will do anything but get therapy”
the most terrifying thing to me is that all of these men have 100% sexually assaulted women before, and plan to do it again.
I don't just go to the gym with my girlfriend, I also have my whey with her. And then I have my weigh with her. And then we go home and relax because exercise is exhausting.
underrated fuckin comment lmao i love this
The soap is kinda like fight club though. Tyler durden was just all in his head and people wearing this fragrance are living in a fantasy where everyone is instantly turned on when they smell them.
But is this one made from human fat?
"Jarvis is so alpha that he's Canadian"
hold the phone. that guy around 16:30 ...... he was 17 when he and the 22 year old broke up. how long were they dating??? girl might be a criminal. and if it was only a few months or something.. it's been 14 years man. also if ur 22 dating a 17 year old go to hell lmao
...... Yea that conversation with that Nick guy made me really sad and uncomfortable.
What I heard from that essentially, in a nutshell - he was 17, a girl who was 22/23 groomed him, he never got over it (because he was groomed/abused), and then many years later he sees her again and she's moved on with a family and kids while he hasn't gotten over her. He would benefit so much more from talking to a therapist rather than any of these "alpha-males".
its derived from evolutionary biology and they're right. You ask the fisherman, not the fish