I might be wrong but I don't think you've already shared your thoughts on micro brands like Baltic or Farer. I know it is somehow controversial in the milieu but those 2 for instance are really affordable and in my opinion more desirable than the last Seiko generation (I would have mentioned an orient star, way more inspired models than Seiko recently and I am a Seiko guy!)
This happens with reviewers when they get so many items in of all sorts of values that they kind of lose perspective. Like smartphone reviewers. They class anything previous gen as obsolete even though it only came out 6 months before. When you don't have to pay for stuff yourself...you forget.
@@thejohnson9204 Yeah I did pull a "WTF" face when the Tudor appeared. That's in the "I'm turning 50 and reasonably successful and will treat myself!" watch bracket.
You had me until you listed affordable as up to $4000 USD. Defining affordable is highly subjective however, I would argue a more universal definition of affordable would be closer to a maximum of $1000 USD. Above that, you start getting into the various categories of luxury.
Hmm.. to refine that definition under 1000 USD might be affordable in 1st world countries. Because one grant is like a year of rent and food here in India. We see seiko as luxury watches here.
@@BabyJesus66 while studying at the uni in Oklahoma I kinda could get by with around $1k a month including rent and food. But yeah, having spent some time in NYC and Boston as well, I see what you're saying. In my home country (Russia) 1000 USD is like two average monthly salaries (I'm not counting Moscow), and I'm struggling to save up even 500 USD for a watch. So, calling 4000 USD "affordable"... well, first world people
I get that the "affordable" IS relative but anything over 1000.00 usd isn't, for most people, I might even go as far as anything over 500.00 usd. Good video, love your enthusiasm though 👍 As a side note I have 4 Vostoks since 2016 and 1 70's Era Raketa and zero issues with any of them. For "perspective" my most expensive watch is the Hamilton Khaki Field Titanium Auto 750.00.usd (995.00 retail) I bought new in 2017, I have a small collection, Seiko, Casio, Hamilton, Citizen, Benarus, Zelos and my first watch purchase, when I was 19 (1973) a Pulsar p2 2900 still working today!
Agree...$4000 is not "affordable". Maybe in Jenni's world :) The word affordable should always be used in context to the average median wage. In the US the average median for a household is $34k, after tax that's $27k to support a family. So spending $4k on a watch is 15% of that total income. I wouldn't class this as affordable, it would have to be at least under 5%, so maybe $1500 is more reasonable in the context of the US. Affordability is very subjective though, it really depends on what you value? I'm sure some people will disagree with what I have said here too :)
> 500/1000 usd isn't affordable. > Most people buy smartphones over 500/1000 every year or so. Any watch over a $25 casio is a waste of money and it all comes to perceived value. Yes my luxury watches were a waste of money but I just like to wear them although I can know the hours just by looking at my phone.
you're arguably working with the assumption that most would define affordable as being a regular ongoing expense or cost of living. with a watch, although mass production pushed most watches into very reachable in quick and easy terms, watches can also represent a key moment in life and something worked towards, given as a gift. you could argue spending anything on a watch is a waste when there's likely a phone in your pocket - arguably a phone more expensive than most watches, too. if you're in the 'buy once, buy well' territory, or look for a greater level of pleasure from something with characteristics beyond it's most obvious function, there are far more expensive watches than these which are also going to provide a more personal and rewarding experience over a far far longer period.
@@VulgarRage who in their right mind buys a new $500-1000 smartphone every year? Given most watches are timeless (pun intended), there is the aspect of buying a decent one for a few hundred once, and having it run for a decade or longer. Also although most aren't going to hand down Seiko 5s, there is a much higher chance of giving a watch to a child or grandchild one day, than there is you giving them your old iPhone 3G in a few decades time.
Who cares what is or isn't "respected in the watch community" I don't seek approval from them or communities related to any of my pursuits, which are photography and motorcycling. It's your money so buy what YOU like, not what other people think is best.
The pros on UA-cam ratings is that you get different opinions from people sharing their experiences with a product before and after buying them. You have the final say after hearing their opinions.
"Tudor...Poor mans Rolex"? I never saw a poor man wearing a 3K watch on his wrist. I think we don't need to use the point of view of Watch snobs. Don't get me wrong. But 3K watches are not classifyed as "affordable" from any point of view. Even some of those who buy pretend to be just "penuts". I'm greatful to have a very high income. But I was never intent to waste money only to be "respected" by strange people who I don't care. A true watch lover is about to understand watches. Not only by pulling the credit card. I think affordable can be seen in a range of three figures. And there are a lot. The mentioned Tissot Gentleman is one of them. But Also Junghans can be found, Circula, Swatch, Orient, some Junkers, Zeppelin, Longines, Bruno Söhne etc. Thank you anyway fir your video.
@@91doctorj Maybe not buying gateway pieces was the reason I retired at 50. Best to stick with better appreciating assets. I guess it's relative to your income doctor J.
Bro these are watches… affordable and watches rarely go hand in hand. It’s literally why I got into smart watches, I can have the best smart watch (Apple w. Ultra) and feel cool, good lord knows I can’t afford the best mechanical 😂 with that said the best affordable option in my humble opinion is the tissot gentleman, great watch and a true one and done option
$4K for a watch “affordable” 🤣. “My queen the people don’t have bread! - So why don’t they eat cake?”. Nothing against you Jenni, I’m a big fan, it’s the watch community that lost its mind!
Not everyone has the kind of disposable income to be able to drop $4,000 USD on a watch. They have families...kids mortgages, car payments, etc. Hey...you buy what you like and can afford. Personally I owned two Rolex's in my earlier years...but I was single and making decent money for the 1980's. Got rid of the Sub...hated it...and kept my Explorer 2 until 2005 when our townhouse was basically destroyed by Katrina...and it was ransacked afterwards. Now...I wear G Shocks, Bulovas and a few Crotons ( can't beat their lifetime warranty! I have yet to use it too!) I have a couple of Nixon 51-30's...which I love! With my 23 cm wrist ( basically 9 inches ) A 47 mm watch looks normal sized on my wrist. And actually, most of my wife's friends love my big watches.
A few other potentials, granted I might be a touch biased given my own collection: - Seiko SKX - Seiko SRPE (sometimes called the dress-KX) - Vostok Amphibia (given it's unique history) - Orient Bambino - Orient Kamasu - Bulova Lunar Pilot (the "other" moon watch) - G-Shock 5xxx series (the infamous "square") - Hamilton Khaki
@@martintanz9098 I have the Lunar Pilot, and my wrist is quite small. In reality, it actually wears quite well. The lugs taper in quite steeply, and with the Velcro strap it’s a very handsome toolwatch. The quartz movement is hyper accurate yet the whole package is sharply executed. A real steal!
5 affordable watches that get respect from the community: - Orient Kamasu - Hamilton Mechanical - Casio Duro - Casio Digital (various models) - Citizen Promaster Ny0040
Honestly. You can get a nice seamaster for close to that used if you know where to look... Kicks the crap out of all these watches except for maybe the Tudor
@@Treyz44 I prefer the Omega over a Tudor anyday. The Rolex and Tudor line is just so boring. Breitling and Omega , heck even Longines and Oris make great watches in the affordable watch category. One watch that is so over looked but really has a tremendous offering in the Swiss auto chrono category. The Cimier Seven Seas Sextant is a stunning watch. Some micro brands are really making a huge splash like Zelos, Edox even though the Edox isn't really a micro brand so much. Also no one should overlook offerings from Hamilton either. Really very good watches at super reasonable prices.
Additions to the list: - Orient Bambino/ Maestro - Casio Duro (40 dollars well spent) - Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical - Bulova Lunar Pilot - Junghans Maxbill
Well if you begin by pointing out reliability issues and start with a Seagull 1963... I've heard plenty of stories about people who had it fail on them within 6 months.
@@garyboyle695 are you in 7th grade? If they called in US debt, they be killing themselves - who do you think they export approx. half their mfg to? Will be 30-50 yrs before domestic consumption can support them. PS - might want to Google Evergrande and China real estate bubble too.
Love the selections and Jenni’s enthusiasm but agree overall- love to see more watches less than $1000 or even $500. It’s more of a task to get a quality watch for less than spend more and expect more.
There's a number of better watch channels that cater to that range. The only reason I clicked on this channel was because I was intrigued about getting a woman's perspective in a typically male dominated arena. Unfortunately, it's mostly on the $1k and up (usually well up) range of watches. Frankly, I'd rather just watch Jody at Just One More Watch or Ben at Ben's Watch Club.
Be careful with the Seagull 1963. I have owned two of them. The first one had a faulty chronograph that couldn't be fixed and the second one had its glass fall off. No way never again! I'd rather buy a Vostok which is much better. I have a few of them and they never fail me.
I would recommend buying the Version from Sea-Gull. These other variants are mostly using lower grade Seagull ST19 movements. But the genuine 1963 from Sea-Gull only comes in 38mm Acrylic Glass and without transparent Caseback and has the model Number 819.17.1963. It costs around 500$ and has a much better quality then most replica (the replica are much more common). Advantage: Limited edition and made from the very same company that made the historical watch. A alternative high quality version can be found from HKED
new job new friends new family to make you think $4000 is affordable. Even if you're a millionaire with any sense of the world, you cannot believe $4000 is "affordable" even if its something you can easily afford. I can afford 4000 and I don't think its "affordable". I don't think most 20 something year old can afford a watch over $1000 over other priorities. She obviously come from a privileged background and never in her life came across $4000 being a lot of money.
Ball makes wonderful “quite affordable” watches even with the in-house movement. Engineer M Marvelight 41mm is a stunning allrounder especially with a grey dial. Excellent watch for 2200-2500 USD.
Got Ball NM2188C at the start of covid for 500Eur. Eta movement (mine is less than +2s/day), tritium tubes even on seconds hand, 100m WR, screwdown crown, screwed bracelet. This is the reason my next watch has to be GS/Rolex/Omega/Tudor because anything bellow cant be justified by me.
I just bought a Seiko 5 SRPE, which basically the same as the Seiko 5 sports except with a smooth bezel and a 40 mm case size. IMO, unless you have a strong preference for a dive style bezel, this is the Seiko 5 to get as it is a more versatile watch.
@@drift4ddict I went with the gilt dial (black with gold accents) because I already have a blue dial Seiko Presage Cocktail time. Also very happy with mine so far. I put mine on a Hirsch tan/light brown strap and it really works. In summer, not sure what I will do. Maybe if Strapcode comes out with a beads of rice for this watch, might go that way. Or maybe just try the stock bracelet, even though every reviewer seems to hate it.
I don’t think I could ever recommend a watch that a crystal popped off but I will definitely settle for my tactical frog version two that just arrived which seems to have pretty solid quality
I agree, the crystal popping off is a huge red flag. And, as I mentioned in my other comment, I had a manual wind Seagull movement and the winding mechanism broke almost immediately. I don’t think I could buy or recommend anything by Seagull based on my experience, even though others have had much more positive experiences.
I bought a Vostok Amphibia in 1992. It has been running since, without any trouble. Oh yes, the price: it cost me 45 DM back then. That was a very low price because nobody wanted them, but it should still be available for an affordable price.
I picked up both an Amphiba (around $70-80 CAD) and a Komandirskie (around $30-40 CAD) direct from the factory store earlier this year. Meranom is also a good option for buying them internationally assuming they have stock of the model you want (since there are tons of options).
I am surprised to see the seagull on this list. Ownership bias perhaps? I also want to live in a world where a $3.8k watch is affordable….. great channel though.
I dunno maybe I'm just poor but watches over 3k does not sound affordable (mid-range Europe salary perspective*) Respect for Seagull / Tissot / Seiko, but there are a lot more wallet-friendly names like Orient / Casio /G-Shock /Bulova. Great vid Jenni, your voice is always pleasant for the ears. Hands up for more this kind of vids :)
Christopher Ward?? Arguably the best value 1000 dollar watches that exist, personal favorite C60 Lymphstone, 600m water resistance made of gunmetal and carbon fiber
They won't get a mention due to the inherent snobbery of watch collectors. The watch is secondary to Brand Recognition, Rolex could sell toilet roll for £100 and idiots would buy it.
A good selection of mid-tier watches. However, I could care less what "serious watch collectors," think of my watches. Stop worrying about what others think is an essential skill for a happy life. When you compare yourself to others you walk a slippery slope.
Also one that lasted 25 years without a service is the Swatch Irony Body & Soul with its ETA movement. Speaking of service: not sure how easy it is to remove the acrylic crystal on this one. But it lasted a very long time given it’s £162 (it was cheaper back then) and never had a service. The case is also made from cast stainless steel and the movement is sort of see-through, which are nice touches.
That Seiko 5 is really beautiful, so is the 5 sports blue which looks "vintage". Also the Tissot PRX Powermatic 80, or even the quartz, are both amazing affordable options!
I agree and own a both an orient and Seiko 5 (as well as Tissot and Lilenthal). The Orient quality is superior at half the cost. I have returned my Seiko twice in 3 months for service and it still rattles. I can't believe she put it on the video!
Seikos age really well. I have Seikos from the 70s (which I only bought because I couldn’t afford Swiss watches) and they are all highly collectible now. My advice is not to spend your money on Ali homage watches, as tempting as they may be; but rather buy Seiko, Orient, Seagul, Longines or Tissot (the most underrated brand, in my opinion).
True, but... Ali homages are great for seeing if you reeeaaally want the expensive one. I bought an Explorer II homage because I really wanted the real thing. Once I got it and wore it, I'm glad I bought it and not the Roller. I like the look but didn't like the way it actuall wore. I gave it away happily.
@@henrycolestage4249 I cannot disagree with you; especially with regard to Rolex, Omega, etc. I will never be able to afford them and, truthfully, I would not want to own a watch that costs that much; so Pagani etc. would do just fine. 😊
The Sea-Gull 1963 is surely a great watch. The problem is not every 1963 is made by Sea-Gull. So, quality and reliability is variable depending on from where you get it. Sea-Gull don't make them with exhibition case back, sapphire or any size larger than 37mm. Not saying that the 1963s that aren't good, it's just their quality vary a lot.
I was just coming here to mention this, and to ask: what sites are a reliable source for the better-quality seagulls? Places like Sugess and eBay list chronos with seagull movements for as little as $160USD, but for a watch that is already considered "disposable" at the $3-400 range, I'd be afraid of going TOO cheap.
@@bobmclennan1727 I have a sugess chrono, which is basically the 1963 with a panda dial. It has been with me for about 6-7 months so I can't say much about it "long-term", but for the time I've owned it's been great and the dial looks elegant imo. The version I've got also has the swan-neck; it runs almost perfectly out of the box. So, based on my experience so far, I can recommend Sugess. I've also seen ppl online recommend getting it from long island watches. If you're in the US, it might be worth it to check them.
Affordable watches have a limit of say 500 Euro. There is so much quality out there. Sapphire crystal, quality movements, signed crown, great brushing, quality bracelets/straps and beautiful designs. Also great heritage and background stories. In the end you do not need to break the bank for a great watch.
The Casio F91W for $7 is military-grade and will outlast any Seagull movement. Orient could have been mentioned in the place of the Seagull as well and Orient movements are on par with an SKX' Seiko
@@ultimaetsolder They're $10~20, quartz accuracy, perpetual calendar with day/date, chronograph to 1/100sec. Alarm and hour chime, and a neat little light that shows you the time even in the dark. Lithium battery lasts a long time, and so easy to wear you can forget you have it on. They hold up well to not only general abuse but also water. And if it doesn't it's nothing to cry over. Looking at my gold one with the black strap now... gonna wear it today, just for you. 💖
A Tudor and Nomos on an "Affordables" list? Please. Replace those with a Hamilton Khaki Mechanical, SKX007/009 and a G-Shock 5600E and then you're talking affordables that watch snobs still give a nod to.
While I like her presentation style, why can't we find new watches? All these watch channels seem to tout the same small group of watches. So boring, product wise.
I've been very happy with Seiko's Presage line. The Cocktail series have some incredible dials that really get a lot of attention while being affordable and dependable. I;ve also been attracted to the newer Presage Sharp-Edge line.
After getting into watches again during covid, the first watch I bought myself was the blue moon from the cocktail series, the dial is simply stunning regardless of price. I'm up to a collection of 7 and I still sometimes just sit and stare at the dial.
I live in the U.S. and i don’t have $4000 to spend on a watch. Unless you’re rich or don’t have any financial responsibilities that isn’t affordable at all. I’ll stick with Casio for affordable and Seiko for nice but still affordable. Just my 2 cents
I'm British and I live in Europe, and USD4k is a ridiculous amount of money to drop on a watch. In real life, no one apart from hardcore watch nerds spends that money on watches. To be fair, hardly anyone wears watches anymore.
A good friend purchased an imitation Rolex 27 years ago for around $200. I know very little about watches so I don’t know if it’s a good or bad fake… what I do know is that the darn thing still works and looks good to my untrained eye.
Affordable for most working people really would only include the Seiko 5, which is a solid pick. Maybe the Tudor, or Tissot, for a one watch or professional. Most people aren't watch collectors.
If you are here to comment that 4,000 is not cheap, just don’t. Someone else is gonna comment that 2,000 dollars is too expensive, and someone else is gonna comment that 500 is too expensive, and someone else is gonna complain about 200$. Its subjective. She attended all price points with this video. Also, i only make 40k/yr and can comfortably afford 5k watch. You just have to save up for it.
Affordable is subjective I guess. I own Orients, Seiko's and Casio's and my "nicer" watch is a Sinn 856IB. I probably will not go higher than this price point, as cost of living means some nice hobbies do not get $$. I am looking for either a Marathon midsize GSAR vs Junghangs Max Bill as next watch. The Formex Essence 39 looking interesting as well.
I would be curious to hear thoughts on Longines - they strike me as being consistently overlooked despite a long history of swiss watchmaking and some nice offerings at reasonable prices.
@@jeremythompson5583 Longines have their own dedicated ETA team/factory right next to their HQ, in Switzerland, who produce the L888 movements and more. Exclusively for Longines. They modify/upgrade already very good and trusted movements like the ETA 2892 (Omega used it at the end of the 90s, early 00's) and they add goodies like silicon balance spring for anti-magnetic purposes or 64/72 hrs power reserve. Most of their movements are easily within COSC accuracy (-4/+6 secs a day) without the actual certification. Watch snobs like 50-60% of the audiance here tend to ignore the brand because they think Longines is just one of the cash-cows of the Swatch Group but at the end of the day their watches are very-very good value.
Generally the maxim 'Buy cheap, buy twice' is something that I agree with 100%, especially when it comes to tools. Having said that, I own an Accurist Quartz (Panda) Chronograph watch that I was given for my 15th birthday, 31 years ago, it's been heavily abused especially when I was working as an outdoor activity instructor, and my watch was often getting scraped across rocks, or being exposed to raging white water. It's STILL working perfectly, although it's looking like it's had a hard life! The equivalent model that Accurist produces now is generally available at about £130!
I am new to this obsession, hobby, pursuit whatever you want to call it... It doesn't have to be expensive- right now I have a $40 timex on my wrist and am perfectly happy. Tomorrow I may wear my Glycine combat sub or the Bertucci or the Marathon. None of these watches broke the bank but are of high quality and very accessible. Try to find a new Rolex Air KIng. Good luck. Also, I'm not a pilot or a diver. I don't want to wear a watch with all these extra complications or features that will never be used. I like simple field watches without day-date functions. They have to be tough because I will wear them hard. Thus, I prefer chronometers intended for military use
Love this channel, love Jenni, kinda hate the premise of this video. The idea of buying a watch with the aim of getting respect (validation) from so-called collectors (wealthy people) is gross. Anyway, thank you Jenni for the video nonetheless!
In fairness, I kina of think of it as a sort of "heads-up" educational video, that if you're just getting into watches, here's some to take a look at, lest you end up getting wasting your cash on an MVMT or similar.
I recently bought my first Swiss watch, a Tissot Couturier day/date and I'm very happy with it. Wearing it has really sparked interested in watches. I love that it spells out the day and has a classy look. It has the previous generation Powermatic 80, but it keeps great time and has been a joy to wear.
Why do we need to buy watches to get 'respect' from other people? Shouldn't we buy watches that WE like? I mean, we are buying it from our own money. Also, how is a $3-4k watch 'affordable'?
I think you missed one watch that gets a lot of (sometimes begrudging) respect from the arch community. The Invicta Pro-Diver. It’s waterproof. Hand winding and hackable. It’s durable and reliable with its NH35A movement. It’s not without its flaws (see “INVICTA” engraved on case side and it’s weak lume), but it really deliverers especially considering it’s sub $100 price. I’d definitely take it over that Seagull as it’s sharp looking and clearly more versatile and durable.
I have an Invicta pro-Diver that I have modded the heck out of. I took it apart and ground down the writing, then re-polished it. I replaced the dial and hands, and put a sapphire double dome crystal. It's a great looking watch now, and gets noticed a lot. The NH35 makes it pretty reliable.
A note on the Seagull's movement -- I own another watch with an ST-19 movement in it, and find that winding it has developed into a bit of a nervous tic. I'll fiddle with the crown while waiting in line at the grocery store, or while watching TV. The upside is that the short power reserve isn't really an issue for me because of it.
Although I don't own one yet (likely getting a ST19 Strela Cosmos in 2022), I don't think I'd have that big of an issue. It's enough over 24 hours you don't need to worry that much, and really just need to make it a habit of winding it before putting it on for the day, and maybe when taking it off for the night.
The Seiko 5 Sport was the only one mentioned that is actually affordable. All the other watches showed were all expensive, even their less expensive offerings are still expensive. So what the hell, Jenni?
As has been stated by many others, I do not believe that $4000 should be classified as"affordable". I'd definitely put the Orient Kamasu and Bambino on this list, along with an array of Casios. Never had an issues with my Vostoks, either. Thank you for the video!
the seagull is considered more of an "interesting" watch by collectors rather than a "respected" one. I would respect a simple plastic swatch with higher quality control for less money.
I wouldn't say Seikos are cheap to service (service can cost more than the watch), but you can swap the movement fairly easily and cheaply given how many are out there.
If you're worried about repair costs you should buy a watch with a good ol’ bulletproof ETA movement, that any random schmuck and their mother can work on, unlike in house movements that you can only go to an authorized dealer or shop for repairs (aka big bill 💸) Don't make the mistake to buy a watch with an in house movement
I purchaser a Times with a lighted dial, day/date and a leather strap 25 years ago. Year after tear I Worked on houses, the Timex got a new band and battery ten years ago, The watch was on sale for %28,
Hey JENNI ELLE , Tudor Black Bay 41 is a goal for me , not an affordable watch. And I don't live in a third world country. Yesterday night I was talking to a guy from Lebanon , they live with 150 USD/month salary. This is pure hypocrisy, I AM OUT
Liked the video, and agree that the $4K price tag on Tudors and a $250 Seiko don't belong in the same video. No one buying a Tudor is in the market for a Seiko 5 Sport. The Nomos is nice but at that price point I just don't feel it brings the value other brands do. The Tissot is a great call out and agree on the bracelet, it is what prevented me from getting it.
I disagree. My three most expensive watches are an Omega Aqua Terra, a Tudor Black Bay 58 and a Seiko SBDC101. I still enjoy watches costing low hundreds such as Seikos, microbrands and G shocks. It's really down to the individual and sadly lots of people are snobs who only care about the brand and the image it portrays.
Big fan! Thanks for always giving your opinions on these kinds of things. Not everyone can afford an "expensive" watch in their lifetime, one can dream though ;). Keep up the good work Jenni!
I've used Seiko 5 SKX for bout 4 years now and it's been my everyday watch for all occasion. Well it's the only watch I've owned and i love it. I'm starting a new job soon and I thought I'd need a nice dress watch and I'm getting the Tissot Visodate with the brown strap and white dial. Love how minimalistic yet elegant the watch looks.
Terrific, well thought out list, Jenni. The Orient Star Classic Power Reserve with an in-house movement for around $500 or less is equal to a $3,000 Swiss watch. I also agree that the Orient Bambino should be on the short list.
My favourite "affordable" Tudor was the North Flag. Such a great watch. Simplicity, durability and an in-house movement. In the actually affordable category there's a lot to like. Hamilton, Seiko, Citizen etc. I also have a soft spot for the retro stylings of the Certina DS PH 200M.
Having an in house movement isn't a good thing, all it means is you can't repair your watch at an independent shop like an ETA movement can, only at authorized dealers and shops (aka way more expensive)
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I have watches with ETA movements and in-house. I don't mind the expense of sending the in-house ones away for service. Watch retailers tend not to want to service anything these days themselves.
I dont understand why almost everybody doesnt say nothing about ETERNA watches.I own 2 of them and their quality can match some very big names out there.And dont make me talk about the bracelets witch are AMAZING.
As ever a lovely presentation. The seiko hands down the winner there, such lovely looking watches and great value for money, for me knocks other brands with an extra 0 on the price tag. 👍😀
Buying one more watch, any watch, than I need is a luxury. Treating yourself once in awhile or buying a nice gift for family is also a luxury IMO. At this point in good conscious I give the same amount that I spend on a watch to a good Charity. Smile Train and Voice of the Martyr I've been giving to for years. Peace and Goodwill to all.
Thank you so much for all the other suggestions 🙌🏻 seems like we need a part 2 💪🏻
I might be wrong but I don't think you've already shared your thoughts on micro brands like Baltic or Farer. I know it is somehow controversial in the milieu but those 2 for instance are really affordable and in my opinion more desirable than the last Seiko generation (I would have mentioned an orient star, way more inspired models than Seiko recently and I am a Seiko guy!)
Best sub £500 everyday watch? (new or pre-owned)
Yes, and please do some every person watches like the Invicta Pro Diver. Those have earned a lot of respect.
The new nomos club with blue dial 😍
Yeah, I'm really surprised by PRX not making the list all especially since you chose Tissot to be on the list
I love it when watch collectors say 4000$ for a watch is still cheap.
This happens with reviewers when they get so many items in of all sorts of values that they kind of lose perspective. Like smartphone reviewers. They class anything previous gen as obsolete even though it only came out 6 months before. When you don't have to pay for stuff yourself...you forget.
@@jabezhane Exactly. They loose touch with reality.
@@thejohnson9204 Yeah I did pull a "WTF" face when the Tudor appeared. That's in the "I'm turning 50 and reasonably successful and will treat myself!" watch bracket.
Which it is.
Yeah, but don't forget you can buy it with her promo code....cough, cough. No idea how that made the list.
You had me until you listed affordable as up to $4000 USD. Defining affordable is highly subjective however, I would argue a more universal definition of affordable would be closer to a maximum of $1000 USD. Above that, you start getting into the various categories of luxury.
Hmm.. to refine that definition under 1000 USD might be affordable in 1st world countries. Because one grant is like a year of rent and food here in India. We see seiko as luxury watches here.
Sucks being poor 😂
@@PiyushRaj-fv2yl dang in the US that wouldn't cover 1 month rent and food most places.
@@PiyushRaj-fv2yl I get it. Very subjective setting a price as a category limit. But $1000 USD is certainly more realistic than $4000 USD.
@@BabyJesus66 while studying at the uni in Oklahoma I kinda could get by with around $1k a month including rent and food. But yeah, having spent some time in NYC and Boston as well, I see what you're saying.
In my home country (Russia) 1000 USD is like two average monthly salaries (I'm not counting Moscow), and I'm struggling to save up even 500 USD for a watch. So, calling 4000 USD "affordable"... well, first world people
I thought I’d skipped video somehow when the Tudor came on, in what world is $3800 an affordable watch!? 😂
In Producer Michael world
In a world where people forget they have a Ferarri F40 in Dubai parked somewhere..
I get that the "affordable" IS relative but anything over 1000.00 usd isn't, for most people, I might even go as far as anything over 500.00 usd. Good video, love your enthusiasm though 👍
As a side note I have 4 Vostoks since 2016 and 1 70's Era Raketa and zero issues with any of them. For "perspective" my most expensive watch is the Hamilton Khaki Field Titanium Auto 750.00.usd (995.00 retail) I bought new in 2017, I have a small collection, Seiko, Casio, Hamilton, Citizen, Benarus, Zelos and my first watch purchase, when I was 19 (1973) a Pulsar p2 2900 still working today!
Agree...$4000 is not "affordable". Maybe in Jenni's world :) The word affordable should always be used in context to the average median wage. In the US the average median for a household is $34k, after tax that's $27k to support a family. So spending $4k on a watch is 15% of that total income. I wouldn't class this as affordable, it would have to be at least under 5%, so maybe $1500 is more reasonable in the context of the US. Affordability is very subjective though, it really depends on what you value? I'm sure some people will disagree with what I have said here too :)
> 500/1000 usd isn't affordable.
> Most people buy smartphones over 500/1000 every year or so.
Any watch over a $25 casio is a waste of money and it all comes to perceived value. Yes my luxury watches were a waste of money but I just like to wear them although I can know the hours just by looking at my phone.
you're arguably working with the assumption that most would define affordable as being a regular ongoing expense or cost of living. with a watch, although mass production pushed most watches into very reachable in quick and easy terms, watches can also represent a key moment in life and something worked towards, given as a gift. you could argue spending anything on a watch is a waste when there's likely a phone in your pocket - arguably a phone more expensive than most watches, too. if you're in the 'buy once, buy well' territory, or look for a greater level of pleasure from something with characteristics beyond it's most obvious function, there are far more expensive watches than these which are also going to provide a more personal and rewarding experience over a far far longer period.
@@VulgarRage who in their right mind buys a new $500-1000 smartphone every year?
Given most watches are timeless (pun intended), there is the aspect of buying a decent one for a few hundred once, and having it run for a decade or longer. Also although most aren't going to hand down Seiko 5s, there is a much higher chance of giving a watch to a child or grandchild one day, than there is you giving them your old iPhone 3G in a few decades time.
I guess the 4000$ upper limit was set to squeeze in a Tudor, for whatever reason.
Who cares what is or isn't "respected in the watch community"
I don't seek approval from them or communities related to any of my pursuits, which are photography and motorcycling.
It's your money so buy what YOU like, not what other people think is best.
Well said 👏🏻
The pros on UA-cam ratings is that you get different opinions from people sharing their experiences with a product before and after buying them. You have the final say after hearing their opinions.
"Tudor...Poor mans Rolex"?
I never saw a poor man wearing a 3K watch on his wrist.
I think we don't need to use the point of view of Watch snobs.
Don't get me wrong. But 3K watches are not classifyed as "affordable" from any point of view. Even some of those who buy pretend to be just "penuts".
I'm greatful to have a very high income. But I was never intent to waste money only to be "respected" by strange people who I don't care.
A true watch lover is about to understand watches. Not only by pulling the credit card.
I think affordable can be seen in a range of three figures. And there are a lot.
The mentioned Tissot Gentleman is one of them.
But Also Junghans can be found, Circula, Swatch, Orient, some Junkers, Zeppelin, Longines, Bruno Söhne etc.
Thank you anyway fir your video.
Affordable.............? Tudor? Great joke.
Wouldn't that make Grand Seiko "affordable" too? I guess affordable is relative to your income 🤣
@@91doctorj Maybe not buying gateway pieces was the reason I retired at 50. Best to stick with better appreciating assets. I guess it's relative to your income doctor J.
@91 doctor j I believe it's more visceral than that!
Bro these are watches… affordable and watches rarely go hand in hand. It’s literally why I got into smart watches, I can have the best smart watch (Apple w. Ultra) and feel cool, good lord knows I can’t afford the best mechanical 😂 with that said the best affordable option in my humble opinion is the tissot gentleman, great watch and a true one and done option
How much money you need to make for 4k to be affordable? Not a rethorical question….
$4K for a watch “affordable” 🤣. “My queen the people don’t have bread! - So why don’t they eat cake?”. Nothing against you Jenni, I’m a big fan, it’s the watch community that lost its mind!
@OB pure class 🤣
@OB And here it is the capitalism at its "best".
Not everyone has the kind of disposable income to be able to drop $4,000 USD on a watch. They have families...kids mortgages, car payments, etc. Hey...you buy what you like and can afford. Personally I owned two Rolex's in my earlier years...but I was single and making decent money for the 1980's. Got rid of the Sub...hated it...and kept my Explorer 2 until 2005 when our townhouse was basically destroyed by Katrina...and it was ransacked afterwards.
Now...I wear G Shocks, Bulovas and a few Crotons ( can't beat their lifetime warranty! I have yet to use it too!) I have a couple of Nixon 51-30's...which I love! With my 23 cm wrist ( basically 9 inches ) A 47 mm watch looks normal sized on my wrist. And actually, most of my wife's friends love my big watches.
A few other potentials, granted I might be a touch biased given my own collection:
- Seiko SKX
- Seiko SRPE (sometimes called the dress-KX)
- Vostok Amphibia (given it's unique history)
- Orient Bambino
- Orient Kamasu
- Bulova Lunar Pilot (the "other" moon watch)
- G-Shock 5xxx series (the infamous "square")
- Hamilton Khaki
Agree. SKX Pepsi is a great watch for a low price. Would be a great 1st ‘nice’ watch for younger people.
I might run out and get a Lunar Pilot if the case weren't so huge.
@@martintanz9098 I have one and a 7 inch wrist. It fits me, but I definitely wouldn’t want larger.
@@martintanz9098 I have the Lunar Pilot, and my wrist is quite small. In reality, it actually wears quite well. The lugs taper in quite steeply, and with the Velcro strap it’s a very handsome toolwatch. The quartz movement is hyper accurate yet the whole package is sharply executed. A real steal!
Those are all really good options.
As affordable brands go, I like Orient, Seiko, Bulova & Tissot.
Casio
@@Strideo1 God Tier
Invicta
Orient for sure
Orient is brilliant for the price and they look amazing.
I can't believe Orient didn't make the list! Especially with Seiko's recent alignment, I definitely think Orient makes the best entry diver watches.
I love wearing my Orient Kamasu with the Burgundy dial. No crooked bezel! Seiko has lost it with QC.
I agree I own two of them. My daily wear at the moment is an Oris but my beater watch is an Orient
Correct
It wasn't a teddy video that is why.
That's because she knows fuck all about affordable watches. She just wants to rack up her view count.
5 affordable watches that get respect from the community:
- Orient Kamasu
- Hamilton Mechanical
- Casio Duro
- Casio Digital (various models)
- Citizen Promaster Ny0040
Agreed. I would add the Citizen Promaster Diver BN015s as well. I own two
GOD TIER!
Found the diver enthusiast
@@iVolkswagen actually, I prefer Field Watches.
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At 4000, why not throw in an low end Omega or a Breitling? Affordable? Sheesh!
Honestly. You can get a nice seamaster for close to that used if you know where to look... Kicks the crap out of all these watches except for maybe the Tudor
@@Treyz44 or a Speedy
Not everyone wants an omega.
Yeah, you have to be "poor" to only afford a Tudor 😂
@@Treyz44 I prefer the Omega over a Tudor anyday. The Rolex and Tudor line is just so boring. Breitling and Omega , heck even Longines and Oris make great watches in the affordable watch category. One watch that is so over looked but really has a tremendous offering in the Swiss auto chrono category. The Cimier Seven Seas Sextant is a stunning watch.
Some micro brands are really making a huge splash like Zelos, Edox even though the Edox isn't really a micro brand so much. Also no one should overlook offerings from Hamilton either. Really very good watches at super reasonable prices.
Additions to the list:
- Orient Bambino/ Maestro
- Casio Duro (40 dollars well spent)
- Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical
- Bulova Lunar Pilot
- Junghans Maxbill
Nice list 😎👍
The lunar pilot is more of a clock than a watch though... It is massive.
Am looking at the Max Bill vs Marathon GSAR for next year
- Invicta Pro Diver Automatic
@@wongjefx980 The Max Bill gets attention when you wear it. Design people who are not necessarily watch people know all about Max Bill.
Well if you begin by pointing out reliability issues and start with a Seagull 1963... I've heard plenty of stories about people who had it fail on them within 6 months.
Yeah. Feast or famine. Which is apt given the country of origin.
@@WestCoastAce27 Hope you're not American as China owns your ass. If they ever call in the debt you are screwed.
@@garyboyle695 are you in 7th grade? If they called in US debt, they be killing themselves - who do you think they export approx. half their mfg to? Will be 30-50 yrs before domestic consumption can support them.
PS - might want to Google Evergrande and China real estate bubble too.
Love the selections and Jenni’s enthusiasm but agree overall- love to see more watches less than $1000 or even $500. It’s more of a task to get a quality watch for less than spend more and expect more.
There's a number of better watch channels that cater to that range. The only reason I clicked on this channel was because I was intrigued about getting a woman's perspective in a typically male dominated arena. Unfortunately, it's mostly on the $1k and up (usually well up) range of watches. Frankly, I'd rather just watch Jody at Just One More Watch or Ben at Ben's Watch Club.
Halo that's very one dimensional of you!
Be careful with the Seagull 1963. I have owned two of them. The first one had a faulty chronograph that couldn't be fixed and the second one had its glass fall off. No way never again! I'd rather buy a Vostok which is much better. I have a few of them and they never fail me.
They are absolute junk ¡
I would recommend buying the Version from Sea-Gull. These other variants are mostly using lower grade Seagull ST19 movements.
But the genuine 1963 from Sea-Gull only comes in 38mm Acrylic Glass and without transparent Caseback and has the model Number 819.17.1963. It costs around 500$ and has a much better quality then most replica (the replica are much more common). Advantage: Limited edition and made from the very same company that made the historical watch.
A alternative high quality version can be found from HKED
Mine is from Sugess, 40mm, sapphire. It is quite robust!
Seagull is waaaayyyyy overpriced.
@@TwentyOne_Five in comparison to what? Tissot? Rolex? MVMT?
Although I do feel like I've seen every watch UA-camr make this video a thousand times 😂 I do enjoy your perspective Jenni 👌🏾
Whoa a Tudor is considered affordable at $4,000? I need a new job then damn
new job new friends new family to make you think $4000 is affordable. Even if you're a millionaire with any sense of the world, you cannot believe $4000 is "affordable" even if its something you can easily afford. I can afford 4000 and I don't think its "affordable". I don't think most 20 something year old can afford a watch over $1000 over other priorities. She obviously come from a privileged background and never in her life came across $4000 being a lot of money.
Good that you also mentioned the Sea-gull 1963. Everyone looks down on that cheap Chinese thing and at the same time everyone loves it!
I have a 1963, and it's a very nice watch. I'm old enough to remember when people looked down on "Made in Japan".
Omega is half chinese
Nobody who isn’t a watch enthusiast is spending over 1k on a watch.
3k isnt affordable, maybe talking about good watches yes, but average person wont spend that much
JENNI. THE THUMBNAIL! 💀😂 absolutely brilliant!! Fantastic video as always! You are sharp and clever as ever. ❤️✨
Ball makes wonderful “quite affordable” watches even with the in-house movement. Engineer M Marvelight 41mm is a stunning allrounder especially with a grey dial. Excellent watch for 2200-2500 USD.
Got Ball NM2188C at the start of covid for 500Eur. Eta movement (mine is less than +2s/day), tritium tubes even on seconds hand, 100m WR, screwdown crown, screwed bracelet. This is the reason my next watch has to be GS/Rolex/Omega/Tudor because anything bellow cant be justified by me.
I just bought a Seiko 5 SRPE, which basically the same as the Seiko 5 sports except with a smooth bezel and a 40 mm case size. IMO, unless you have a strong preference for a dive style bezel, this is the Seiko 5 to get as it is a more versatile watch.
I bought the same one month ago. Super happy with it, versatile, elegant and sporty at the same time.
same here, bought the srpe53 with the blu dial and i love it. I use it with bracelet, leather strap, nato strap and looks always amazing
Totally agree! I have the SRPE63, and it's my favorite watch right now!
@@drift4ddict I went with the gilt dial (black with gold accents) because I already have a blue dial Seiko Presage Cocktail time. Also very happy with mine so far. I put mine on a Hirsch tan/light brown strap and it really works. In summer, not sure what I will do. Maybe if Strapcode comes out with a beads of rice for this watch, might go that way. Or maybe just try the stock bracelet, even though every reviewer seems to hate it.
4000 is 'affordable' ? 😂
That's firmly in luxury territory
wow, are there really that many people running around the watch enthusiast community for.whom 3k+ is “affordable” ?
When you live in a world where watches are just sent to you from all over you do tend to lose perspective a bit.
It’s mental. It makes the content on these channels feel so unrelatable to everyday people.
I don’t think I could ever recommend a watch that a crystal popped off but I will definitely settle for my tactical frog version two that just arrived which seems to have pretty solid quality
I agree, the crystal popping off is a huge red flag. And, as I mentioned in my other comment, I had a manual wind Seagull movement and the winding mechanism broke almost immediately. I don’t think I could buy or recommend anything by Seagull based on my experience, even though others have had much more positive experiences.
I bought a Vostok Amphibia in 1992. It has been running since, without any trouble. Oh yes, the price: it cost me 45 DM back then. That was a very low price because nobody wanted them, but it should still be available for an affordable price.
I picked up both an Amphiba (around $70-80 CAD) and a Komandirskie (around $30-40 CAD) direct from the factory store earlier this year. Meranom is also a good option for buying them internationally assuming they have stock of the model you want (since there are tons of options).
Underrated watch, Amphibias are cheap, cool, and reliable.
@@Conundrum191 that’s cool
They make a lit of stunning watches
I am surprised to see the seagull on this list. Ownership bias perhaps? I also want to live in a world where a $3.8k watch is affordable….. great channel though.
Communist red star on the dial 🤮
I dunno maybe I'm just poor but watches over 3k does not sound affordable (mid-range Europe salary perspective*)
Respect for Seagull / Tissot / Seiko, but there are a lot more wallet-friendly names like Orient / Casio /G-Shock /Bulova.
Great vid Jenni, your voice is always pleasant for the ears. Hands up for more this kind of vids :)
Christopher Ward?? Arguably the best value 1000 dollar watches that exist, personal favorite C60 Lymphstone, 600m water resistance made of gunmetal and carbon fiber
They won't get a mention due to the inherent snobbery of watch collectors. The watch is secondary to Brand Recognition, Rolex could sell toilet roll for £100 and idiots would buy it.
Good point. They're very nice watches.
A good selection of mid-tier watches. However, I could care less what "serious watch collectors," think of my watches. Stop worrying about what others think is an essential skill for a happy life. When you compare yourself to others you walk a slippery slope.
Exactly!
Also one that lasted 25 years without a service is the Swatch Irony Body & Soul with its ETA movement. Speaking of service: not sure how easy it is to remove the acrylic crystal on this one. But it lasted a very long time given it’s £162 (it was cheaper back then) and never had a service. The case is also made from cast stainless steel and the movement is sort of see-through, which are nice touches.
I know they're not regarded by watch aficionados but I would very much like to own a Swatch.
That Seiko 5 is really beautiful, so is the 5 sports blue which looks "vintage". Also the Tissot PRX Powermatic 80, or even the quartz, are both amazing affordable options!
I agree and own a both an orient and Seiko 5 (as well as Tissot and Lilenthal). The Orient quality is superior at half the cost. I have returned my Seiko twice in 3 months for service and it still rattles. I can't believe she put it on the video!
Did you call the Tudor Black Bay, a $3800 watch “affordable”? Being German, earning Euros must be the dream huh?
Seikos age really well. I have Seikos from the 70s (which I only bought because I couldn’t afford Swiss watches) and they are all highly collectible now. My advice is not to spend your money on Ali homage watches, as tempting as they may be; but rather buy Seiko, Orient, Seagul, Longines or Tissot (the most underrated brand, in my opinion).
True, but... Ali homages are great for seeing if you reeeaaally want the expensive one. I bought an Explorer II homage because I really wanted the real thing. Once I got it and wore it, I'm glad I bought it and not the Roller. I like the look but didn't like the way it actuall wore. I gave it away happily.
@@henrycolestage4249 I cannot disagree with you; especially with regard to Rolex, Omega, etc. I will never be able to afford them and, truthfully, I would not want to own a watch that costs that much; so Pagani etc. would do just fine. 😊
@edteach3r. you just described my collection perfectly except for a few choice Invictas!
@@davidcrandall4958 Glad to hear it, David 😊. I have two Invictas in my collection also!
The Sea-Gull 1963 is surely a great watch. The problem is not every 1963 is made by Sea-Gull. So, quality and reliability is variable depending on from where you get it. Sea-Gull don't make them with exhibition case back, sapphire or any size larger than 37mm. Not saying that the 1963s that aren't good, it's just their quality vary a lot.
I was just coming here to mention this, and to ask: what sites are a reliable source for the better-quality seagulls? Places like Sugess and eBay list chronos with seagull movements for as little as $160USD, but for a watch that is already considered "disposable" at the $3-400 range, I'd be afraid of going TOO cheap.
@@bobmclennan1727 I have a sugess chrono, which is basically the 1963 with a panda dial. It has been with me for about 6-7 months so I can't say much about it "long-term", but for the time I've owned it's been great and the dial looks elegant imo. The version I've got also has the swan-neck; it runs almost perfectly out of the box. So, based on my experience so far, I can recommend Sugess. I've also seen ppl online recommend getting it from long island watches. If you're in the US, it might be worth it to check them.
Omg who cares what watch collectors think. Just wear what u want and what makes u happy.
Affordable watches have a limit of say 500 Euro. There is so much quality out there. Sapphire crystal, quality movements, signed crown, great brushing, quality bracelets/straps and beautiful designs. Also great heritage and background stories.
In the end you do not need to break the bank for a great watch.
the "watch community" and the "collectors" look down upon you and scream "4K IS APHORDABEL FOR A WATCH!!!!"
The Casio F91W for $7 is military-grade and will outlast any Seagull movement. Orient could have been mentioned in the place of the Seagull as well and Orient movements are on par with an SKX' Seiko
No, it's not "military grade." It's a $7 shitter. Please be serious.
@@ultimaetsolder They're $10~20, quartz accuracy, perpetual calendar with day/date, chronograph to 1/100sec. Alarm and hour chime, and a neat little light that shows you the time even in the dark. Lithium battery lasts a long time, and so easy to wear you can forget you have it on. They hold up well to not only general abuse but also water. And if it doesn't it's nothing to cry over.
Looking at my gold one with the black strap now... gonna wear it today, just for you. 💖
Commie brand 🤢
I would choose a Casio instead because of that
@@ultimaetsolder I was serious - it is military grade. There are people in GITMO for it wearing one. look it up. :-) Have a nice day.
A Tudor and Nomos on an "Affordables" list? Please. Replace those with a Hamilton Khaki Mechanical, SKX007/009 and a G-Shock 5600E and then you're talking affordables that watch snobs still give a nod to.
While I like her presentation style, why can't we find new watches? All these watch channels seem to tout the same small group of watches. So boring, product wise.
I've been very happy with Seiko's Presage line. The Cocktail series have some incredible dials that really get a lot of attention while being affordable and dependable. I;ve also been attracted to the newer Presage Sharp-Edge line.
I like the Sharp Edge Line too but the general accuracy of Seiko's were always a huge let-down. Always went for a swiss made brand instead.
After getting into watches again during covid, the first watch I bought myself was the blue moon from the cocktail series, the dial is simply stunning regardless of price. I'm up to a collection of 7 and I still sometimes just sit and stare at the dial.
wow....affordable watches up to $4000. for people like me from 3rd world countries beyond $500 are already premium miss jenni
I live in the U.S. and i don’t have $4000 to spend on a watch. Unless you’re rich or don’t have any financial responsibilities that isn’t affordable at all. I’ll stick with Casio for affordable and Seiko for nice but still affordable. Just my 2 cents
I'm British and I live in Europe, and USD4k is a ridiculous amount of money to drop on a watch. In real life, no one apart from hardcore watch nerds spends that money on watches. To be fair, hardly anyone wears watches anymore.
my left ear enjoyed that "$200"
A good friend purchased an imitation Rolex 27 years ago for around $200. I know very little about watches so I don’t know if it’s a good or bad fake… what I do know is that the darn thing still works and looks good to my untrained eye.
My top end of "affordable" would be $2000.
I remember when my Omega Seamaster 2254.50 was $1750 retail but that was many years ago.
Affordable for most working people really would only include the Seiko 5, which is a solid pick. Maybe the Tudor, or Tissot, for a one watch or professional. Most people aren't watch collectors.
Jenni ‘so you’re wearing the watch and not the other way around’ Elle. Legend.
Solid list, esp the Tissot which doesn’t get nearly enough love.
If you are here to comment that 4,000 is not cheap, just don’t. Someone else is gonna comment that 2,000 dollars is too expensive, and someone else is gonna comment that 500 is too expensive, and someone else is gonna complain about 200$.
Its subjective. She attended all price points with this video.
Also, i only make 40k/yr and can comfortably afford 5k watch. You just have to save up for it.
Affordable is subjective I guess. I own Orients, Seiko's and Casio's and my "nicer" watch is a Sinn 856IB. I probably will not go higher than this price point, as cost of living means some nice hobbies do not get $$. I am looking for either a Marathon midsize GSAR vs Junghangs Max Bill as next watch. The Formex Essence 39 looking interesting as well.
I would be curious to hear thoughts on Longines - they strike me as being consistently overlooked despite a long history of swiss watchmaking and some nice offerings at reasonable prices.
Seconded! The moon phase chrono looks oh so hnngghh
I was considering buying a Longines as well they look great...what is your option on them?
@@jeremythompson5583 Longines have their own dedicated ETA team/factory right next to their HQ, in Switzerland, who produce the L888 movements and more. Exclusively for Longines. They modify/upgrade already very good and trusted movements like the ETA 2892 (Omega used it at the end of the 90s, early 00's) and they add goodies like silicon balance spring for anti-magnetic purposes or 64/72 hrs power reserve. Most of their movements are easily within COSC accuracy (-4/+6 secs a day) without the actual certification. Watch snobs like 50-60% of the audiance here tend to ignore the brand because they think Longines is just one of the cash-cows of the Swatch Group but at the end of the day their watches are very-very good value.
Generally the maxim 'Buy cheap, buy twice' is something that I agree with 100%, especially when it comes to tools. Having said that, I own an Accurist Quartz (Panda) Chronograph watch that I was given for my 15th birthday, 31 years ago, it's been heavily abused especially when I was working as an outdoor activity instructor, and my watch was often getting scraped across rocks, or being exposed to raging white water. It's STILL working perfectly, although it's looking like it's had a hard life! The equivalent model that Accurist produces now is generally available at about £130!
I never thought most of the two shot except for this one I mean 80 hours couple seconds off a day and that's a nice watch I'm impressed
I like the Seiko 5 watches. I am more interested in the field watch Seiko 5's but I do like the entire line.
That Tudor hour hand has always reminded me of a snake that swallowed a Lego.
That thumbnail is a big yikes, especially considering how well put together the video's presentation and quality is.
Some of us find it fun and lighthearted. 🤷🏼♂️
What?£?? The thumbnail is the best part! Absolutely brilliant! 😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This comment is a big yikes.
I am new to this obsession, hobby, pursuit whatever you want to call it... It doesn't have to be expensive- right now I have a $40 timex on my wrist and am perfectly happy. Tomorrow I may wear my Glycine combat sub or the Bertucci or the Marathon. None of these watches broke the bank but are of high quality and very accessible. Try to find a new Rolex Air KIng. Good luck.
Also, I'm not a pilot or a diver. I don't want to wear a watch with all these extra complications or features that will never be used. I like simple field watches without day-date functions. They have to be tough because I will wear them hard. Thus, I prefer chronometers intended for military use
As always I love your videos, keep up the good work ❤️
Love this channel, love Jenni, kinda hate the premise of this video. The idea of buying a watch with the aim of getting respect (validation) from so-called collectors (wealthy people) is gross. Anyway, thank you Jenni for the video nonetheless!
In fairness, I kina of think of it as a sort of "heads-up" educational video, that if you're just getting into watches, here's some to take a look at, lest you end up getting wasting your cash on an MVMT or similar.
I recently bought my first Swiss watch, a Tissot Couturier day/date and I'm very happy with it. Wearing it has really sparked interested in watches. I love that it spells out the day and has a classy look. It has the previous generation Powermatic 80, but it keeps great time and has been a joy to wear.
Why do we need to buy watches to get 'respect' from other people? Shouldn't we buy watches that WE like? I mean, we are buying it from our own money.
Also, how is a $3-4k watch 'affordable'?
Bauhaus may not be for everyone, and that's why we have Scheißhaus. And by Scheißhaus, I mean Invicta.
OK, OK, I'm joking. Kinda.
Tissot should be given more respect
Jennie is so adorable and sincerely enthusiastic she could get me to watch cement reviews. Very nice channel.
Nice. I've got a Seiko 5, a Nomos Orion, and a Tissot Powermatic. Great watches
I think you missed one watch that gets a lot of (sometimes begrudging) respect from the arch community. The Invicta Pro-Diver. It’s waterproof. Hand winding and hackable. It’s durable and reliable with its NH35A movement. It’s not without its flaws (see “INVICTA” engraved on case side and it’s weak lume), but it really deliverers especially considering it’s sub $100 price. I’d definitely take it over that Seagull as it’s sharp looking and clearly more versatile and durable.
I have an Invicta pro-Diver that I have modded the heck out of. I took it apart and ground down the writing, then re-polished it. I replaced the dial and hands, and put a sapphire double dome crystal. It's a great looking watch now, and gets noticed a lot. The NH35 makes it pretty reliable.
A note on the Seagull's movement -- I own another watch with an ST-19 movement in it, and find that winding it has developed into a bit of a nervous tic. I'll fiddle with the crown while waiting in line at the grocery store, or while watching TV. The upside is that the short power reserve isn't really an issue for me because of it.
Although I don't own one yet (likely getting a ST19 Strela Cosmos in 2022), I don't think I'd have that big of an issue. It's enough over 24 hours you don't need to worry that much, and really just need to make it a habit of winding it before putting it on for the day, and maybe when taking it off for the night.
@@Conundrum191 Exactly. It's really nothing to give the crown a spin or two every now and again through the day.
bought the black bay almost a year ago, I was torn between the tudor and the omega seamaster diver 300, couldn't be happier with my choice
The Seiko 5 Sport was the only one mentioned that is actually affordable. All the other watches showed were all expensive, even their less expensive offerings are still expensive. So what the hell, Jenni?
Jenni’s pronunciation of the various watch brands adds value to the video content!
As has been stated by many others, I do not believe that $4000 should be classified as"affordable". I'd definitely put the Orient Kamasu and Bambino on this list, along with an array of Casios. Never had an issues with my Vostoks, either. Thank you for the video!
The seagull's movement looks like one of those kids plywood "try and learn' toys that you press out and put together.
My husband got me a Nomos and I absolutely love it. So comfortable and just looks good!
the seagull is considered more of an "interesting" watch by collectors rather than a "respected" one. I would respect a simple plastic swatch with higher quality control for less money.
well said, i also think that the 5kx can fk off this list and give way to orient.
I wouldn't say Seikos are cheap to service (service can cost more than the watch), but you can swap the movement fairly easily and cheaply given how many are out there.
If you're worried about repair costs you should buy a watch with a good ol’ bulletproof ETA movement, that any random schmuck and their mother can work on, unlike in house movements that you can only go to an authorized dealer or shop for repairs (aka big bill 💸)
Don't make the mistake to buy a watch with an in house movement
I purchaser a Times with a lighted dial, day/date and a leather strap 25 years ago. Year after tear I Worked on houses, the Timex got a new band and battery ten years ago, The watch was on sale for %28,
Hey JENNI ELLE , Tudor Black Bay 41 is a goal for me , not an affordable watch. And I don't live in a third world country. Yesterday night I was talking to a guy from Lebanon , they live with 150 USD/month salary. This is pure hypocrisy, I AM OUT
Liked the video, and agree that the $4K price tag on Tudors and a $250 Seiko don't belong in the same video. No one buying a Tudor is in the market for a Seiko 5 Sport. The Nomos is nice but at that price point I just don't feel it brings the value other brands do. The Tissot is a great call out and agree on the bracelet, it is what prevented me from getting it.
Your Seiko and Tudor comment are way off the mark. Many collectors buying Tudor still love the Seiko 5 line. She was spot on.
I disagree. My three most expensive watches are an Omega Aqua Terra, a Tudor Black Bay 58 and a Seiko SBDC101. I still enjoy watches costing low hundreds such as Seikos, microbrands and G shocks. It's really down to the individual and sadly lots of people are snobs who only care about the brand and the image it portrays.
You missed the ‘at price points.’ Everything is relative. $3800 is affordable (for those making good salaries) relative to grey market Sub prices.
Big fan! Thanks for always giving your opinions on these kinds of things. Not everyone can afford an "expensive" watch in their lifetime, one can dream though ;). Keep up the good work Jenni!
me too !
I've used Seiko 5 SKX for bout 4 years now and it's been my everyday watch for all occasion. Well it's the only watch I've owned and i love it. I'm starting a new job soon and I thought I'd need a nice dress watch and I'm getting the Tissot Visodate with the brown strap and white dial. Love how minimalistic yet elegant the watch looks.
Terrific list. I recently got the Black Bay in 41mm and my appreciation for it is growing every day.
Terrific, well thought out list, Jenni. The Orient Star Classic Power Reserve with an in-house movement for around $500 or less is equal to a $3,000 Swiss watch. I also agree that the Orient Bambino should be on the short list.
4000 Dollars
Affordable
We’ll done, this is probably one of your best reviews. Great watches, affordable, and let’s us know what watches collectors respect.
What is that thumbnail??!!!😂😂😂
Had me rolling...nice one
Not a big fan of the thumbnail tbh 😭
Jenni is turning into watch infomercials
Affordable for the top 1%. Cmon Jenni most of us live in the real world.
Yea seiko 5 had a big place in my heart since it’s the first automatic I ever got, and very mod friendly 👍🏽
My favourite "affordable" Tudor was the North Flag. Such a great watch. Simplicity, durability and an in-house movement. In the actually affordable category there's a lot to like. Hamilton, Seiko, Citizen etc. I also have a soft spot for the retro stylings of the Certina DS PH 200M.
Having an in house movement isn't a good thing, all it means is you can't repair your watch at an independent shop like an ETA movement can, only at authorized dealers and shops (aka way more expensive)
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess I have watches with ETA movements and in-house. I don't mind the expense of sending the in-house ones away for service. Watch retailers tend not to want to service anything these days themselves.
Affordable watches
... - 4000 dollars
Yeah thank you very much
I dont understand why almost everybody doesnt say nothing about ETERNA watches.I own 2 of them and their quality can match some very big names out there.And dont make me talk about the bracelets witch are AMAZING.
She should've mentioned the Casio f91w, it costs $10 and is super respected by the watch community
As ever a lovely presentation. The seiko hands down the winner there, such lovely looking watches and great value for money, for me knocks other brands with an extra 0 on the price tag. 👍😀
4k is a "affordable" watch? The average per capita income worldwide is $10,298, according to the World Bank so, under 900 a month.
Well, maybe that figure includes third world countries, where watch collecting is not exactly common.
Buying one more watch, any watch, than I need is a luxury. Treating yourself once in awhile or buying a nice gift for family is also a luxury IMO. At this point in good conscious I give the same amount that I spend on a watch to a good Charity. Smile Train and Voice of the Martyr I've been giving to for years. Peace and Goodwill to all.
Jenni, must say, you’re such a joy to watch. Cheers