Man just imagine if they made a brief cut with Young Jack Napier Joker from the first Batman film shooting and killing the Wayne's in cold blood then leading to the bat creature. It sends the message that "despite the horrible trauma you suffered from ur greatest enemy (Joker) and he's the cause of your desire to be Batman, you must also realize the bat wasn't there to hurt you, but to help you embrace your fears and help you forget what Joker did to you when you were a child that night. Turning a negative into a positive=Seeing the light
when i was a kid, i had a little book of the movie. and there was a picture of the giant bat from this scene, and i was so frustrated when i never found it in the movie. thanks for uploading.
For those who don't know, the Waynes went to see Zorro; Bob Kane admitted that Zorro was part of the inspiration for Batman (and the characters share a lot of the same motifs).
+ElTee842 Zorro, the shadow, dracula and sherlock holmes have been said to be inspirations for Batman as well.....Dracula due to the bats, Sherlock holmes for the detective, The shadow for the billionaire, and Zorro for the vigilante for the little guy
Man u know what would be the perfect icing on the cake on the part where he says "my fault" when he reads the book?; if they showed a short brief cut with Young Jack Napier Joker shooting the Wayne's from the first 1989 movie. Then leading to the big bat creature and embracing his fear along with it. Basically turning the negative memory (Joker) into positive motivation with the bat.
He repressed the memory of insisting on seeing a movie that night which he subconsciously always blamed himself for his parents death for, but, the second diary entry shows that his parents were heart-set on seeing Zorro so Bruce’s cartoon would have to wait til next week meaning that it wasn’t his fault as he wanted to be there at a different time to see something different or even be watching the cartoon at home, so it wasn’t his fault after all. Then the bat comes at him and as a child that scared him and he went on to use it as a symbol of fear and a way of hiding, but here he embraces it showing that he no longer uses Batman to hide, but rather accepts who he is and what he’s done and Batman can now be a symbol of good.
@@integrity101 Good to know. I will look in to that. It would be great if it was done officially however. They could eventually give it a limited theatrical run. I think it would be cool.
@@bestmoviesever1 No problem. If u are a fan of Christopher Reeve Superman also download the SUPERMAN REDEEMED film. Again just search "Superman Redeemed Download." Youll find a 2020 link in a comment section. It is S3 & S4 combined & condensed into one 90 minute coherent film that serves as the best Christopher Reeve Superman film not directed by Richard Donner.
That scene where he was looking into his past and found the red book would have made the movie interesting especially with Bruce and dick grayson relating to each other bruce trains him but they cut it for time joel Schumacher fucked up on that
Phillip Morley I’m not convinced it was his fault. I’m fairly certain studio interference ruined these movies just like it happens to this day. I mean look at these scenes. Schumacher directed them, obviously.
I'm surprised this scene was removed. Granted, maybe the large bat parts could have been reshot if it detracted from the scene, but the whole subplot of Bruce reconsidering being Batman was so weak in the movie and this would have strengthened it.
@Jake Bat Joel's Director's Cut does exist and it was 165 minutes long, It was SUPPOSED to be the Final Cut, but Warner Bros told him he HAD to deliver a 2 hour film and stabbed him in the back.
Although there are better Batman movies that have been made, Forever is better than people give it credit for. Had this scene made it to the theatrical version it would have made the film flow better and explain more things. To an extent this idea of facing fears would later be used in Batman Begins.
@lazytobi24 In a nutshell, it says (on his father's diary) that he and Martha wanted to stay at home, but Bruce insisted on seeing a movie. Knowing that he insisted on going out at the same night that they were killed, he keeps repeating to himself "all my fault".
Thus Young Jack Napier/Joker preys on the Wayne's in the shadows and shoots them dead in cold blood in the process. Since that night, his life has never been the same despite the fact he defeated Joker in the first movie 1989.
@leonard127 The actual script for the film didn't change much from the Burton proposal. Ive read the original screenplay from when it was supposed to be the direct sequel to Batman Returns... It's pretty much exactly the same, but Schumacher was forced to edit the film to 2 hours, when the screenplay called for a film almost 3 hours long. Fuck WB, they forced Joel to wreck a FANTASTIC screenplay.
Having read Dark Nights: Metal, now I'm compelled to theorize that giant bat may have been a manifestation of the demon Barbatos from the Dark Multiverse.
This movie would of been awesome if Jim Carrey wasn´t in it and Tomy lee Jones wasnt trying to emulate Jack Nicholson´s Joker... Scenes like this one shows that Schumacher had all the potential to do a Batman masterpiece on TDK´s league cause he is a great director (The Lost Boys, Flatliners, A Time To Kill, etc...) but he was just too dumb to do it. What a shame.
If you do cut this into a film, could you please upload an AVI torrent to Pirate bay as well as making a huge DVD version for FanEdit or whatever? Because I can never get those DVD files to work. I own Batman Forever on VHS and twice on DVD and the novelisation and some of the figures, so I think I should be allowed to illegally download it once.
fucking christ! WHY did they remove it from the movie!??? so creepy and still i got huge nerdchills all over... would have been a huge deal seeing that kind of background kind of information....
8 years later but here it is 😂 4pm- Bruce insists on seeing a movie tonight 5pm- Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce’s cartoon will have to wait until next week. There is scenes cut from the movie that show Bruce was upset that his parents died but it wasn’t that that made him run away and fall down the cave and see the bat. It’s something he’s repressed for years ever since and that played in to the dynamic between him and Nicole Kidman’s character and him wanting to but not being able to open up to her. It turned out he had seen his fathers journal at the funeral and the entry that Bruce insisted on seeing a movie that made him blame himself, take the journal and run away and that’s when he fell in to the cave. He seen the bat flying at him, became scared and then later used Batman to put the same fear in to people he encountered. Now as an adult he went back to what made him become what he had, and he remembered that it was his fault.. then he seen that his parents made him see a different movie therefore it wasn’t his fault as his cartoon would’ve either been on tv at home or on at a different time at the movies so he let all the past go. Now when the bat flew at him again as an adult, he wasn’t afraid, he embraced it, showing that Batman wasn’t a symbol of fear anymore and a way for him to hide, but was a symbol of good and a part of him as a person.
Man just imagine if they made a brief cut with Young Jack Napier Joker from the first Batman film shooting and killing the Wayne's in cold blood then leading to the bat creature. It sends the message that "despite the horrible trauma you suffered from ur greatest enemy (Joker) and he's the cause of your desire to be Batman, you must also realize the bat wasn't there to hurt you, but to help you embrace your fears and help you forget what Joker did to you when you were a child that night. Turning a negative into a positive=Seeing the light
when i was a kid, i had a little book of the movie. and there was a picture of the giant bat from this scene, and i was so frustrated when i never found it in the movie. thanks for uploading.
For those who don't know, the Waynes went to see Zorro; Bob Kane admitted that Zorro was part of the inspiration for Batman (and the characters share a lot of the same motifs).
+ElTee842 Zorro, the shadow, dracula and sherlock holmes have been said to be inspirations for Batman as well.....Dracula due to the bats, Sherlock holmes for the detective, The shadow for the billionaire, and Zorro for the vigilante for the little guy
Yet, all that porbably came from Bill Finger. Not Bob Kane. That bastard.
We're in 2016 and I didn't know about this scene. Damn. Thank you for sharing this.
Mag-fucking-nificent. I'm so happy that someone finally tidied up and presented this excellent scene as well as you have.
This cut should made it to the movie. It's a meaningful part in Batman Forever.
Even though I do love Batman Forever, this really would have improved the film considerably.
for a haunting memory he repressed for most of his life, he sure got over it pretty quickly.
Man u know what would be the perfect icing on the cake on the part where he says "my fault" when he reads the book?; if they showed a short brief cut with Young Jack Napier Joker shooting the Wayne's from the first 1989 movie. Then leading to the big bat creature and embracing his fear along with it. Basically turning the negative memory (Joker) into positive motivation with the bat.
He repressed the memory of insisting on seeing a movie that night which he subconsciously always blamed himself for his parents death for, but, the second diary entry shows that his parents were heart-set on seeing Zorro so Bruce’s cartoon would have to wait til next week meaning that it wasn’t his fault as he wanted to be there at a different time to see something different or even be watching the cartoon at home, so it wasn’t his fault after all. Then the bat comes at him and as a child that scared him and he went on to use it as a symbol of fear and a way of hiding, but here he embraces it showing that he no longer uses Batman to hide, but rather accepts who he is and what he’s done and Batman can now be a symbol of good.
Bruce: What's down there?
Alfred: Only what you take with you
That scene shows us a potential 10/10 movie scared me a bit but that's why I love this universe
It would be great if they released an extended cut with all the deleted scenes put back in.
The red book edition is a fan edit. Its been available for years. I watched it a couple days ago. Just download it.
@@integrity101 Good to know. I will look in to that. It would be great if it was done officially however. They could eventually give it a limited theatrical run. I think it would be cool.
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Watch the BF RBE trailer and look thru comments / description
@@integrity101 Thanks a million.
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No problem. If u are a fan of Christopher Reeve Superman also download the SUPERMAN REDEEMED film. Again just search "Superman Redeemed Download." Youll find a 2020 link in a comment section. It is S3 & S4 combined & condensed into one 90 minute coherent film that serves as the best Christopher Reeve Superman film not directed by Richard Donner.
This movie needs a Director's cut
Why!! why wasn't this scene in the official Batman Forever movie released in 1995??
Because just like now, back then too were people who wanted superhero movies to be brighter and more kid-friendly (like the Disney-MCU crap)
That scene where he was looking into his past and found the red book would have made the movie interesting especially with Bruce and dick grayson relating to each other bruce trains him but they cut it for time joel Schumacher fucked up on that
Phillip Morley I’m not convinced it was his fault. I’m fairly certain studio interference ruined these movies just like it happens to this day. I mean look at these scenes. Schumacher directed them, obviously.
I love this movie but please WB. Please give us and release the Schumacher Cut on Blu Ray. We the fans deserve it
@@AshrafAnam "...to be brighter and more kid-friendly."
Well, we kids back then are adults now, we deserve to #ReleaseTheSchumacherCut
When I first saw the giant bat pic, I thought it was Man-Bat.
I'm surprised this scene was removed. Granted, maybe the large bat parts could have been reshot if it detracted from the scene, but the whole subplot of Bruce reconsidering being Batman was so weak in the movie and this would have strengthened it.
@Jake Bat Joel's Director's Cut does exist and it was 165 minutes long, It was SUPPOSED to be the Final Cut, but Warner Bros told him he HAD to deliver a 2 hour film and stabbed him in the back.
Imagine spending your time and effort to create an amazing bat prop like this just so the scene gets deleted 😂😂
If only Nolan could find someway of bringing this big bat into TDKR!
This would have made Batman Forever seem credible.
3rd July 2020 and I'm learning about The Batman Forever: Redbook Edition
Excellent work again, my friend! I can't wait to see your cut of the film.
Although there are better Batman movies that have been made, Forever is better than people give it credit for. Had this scene made it to the theatrical version it would have made the film flow better and explain more things. To an extent this idea of facing fears would later be used in Batman Begins.
I absolutely love that cut to young Bruce at 3:02. Embracing the shadow...
@lazytobi24 In a nutshell, it says (on his father's diary) that he and Martha wanted to stay at home, but Bruce insisted on seeing a movie. Knowing that he insisted on going out at the same night that they were killed, he keeps repeating to himself "all my fault".
Thus Young Jack Napier/Joker preys on the Wayne's in the shadows and shoots them dead in cold blood in the process. Since that night, his life has never been the same despite the fact he defeated Joker in the first movie 1989.
damn this scene pushes the movie up to a way better level
I think Snyder put the giant bat in bvs as a sign of respect after seeing this
The Riddler pissing himself at the end would make more sense if he'd see this.
1:03 "Your weapons, you will not need them."
@leonard127 The actual script for the film didn't change much from the Burton proposal. Ive read the original screenplay from when it was supposed to be the direct sequel to Batman Returns... It's pretty much exactly the same, but Schumacher was forced to edit the film to 2 hours, when the screenplay called for a film almost 3 hours long. Fuck WB, they forced Joel to wreck a FANTASTIC screenplay.
colliric And people blame Joel for the movies being bad, when in reality it was WB’s
@@RShadow12 in batman and robin hes blame to.
and harvey dent isnt relly harvey dent.
MAN BAT!!!! 😂😂😂
2:56
This actually gives the movie a much darker, serious tone, though the ending kind ruins it: "I'm Batman, Alfred. I'm Batman."
This movie would have been actually good if it wasn`t for the dumb villains. I actually liked Forever`s "Gotham" city.
Having read Dark Nights: Metal, now I'm compelled to theorize that giant bat may have been a manifestation of the demon Barbatos from the Dark Multiverse.
WOW Man and Bat
@WalkEvilTalk Audio hasn't been disabled in Ireland. Please still make this.
Wasn't that (seriously cool) bat from Graveyard Shift?
This movie would of been awesome if Jim Carrey wasn´t in it and Tomy lee Jones wasnt trying to emulate Jack Nicholson´s Joker... Scenes like this one shows that Schumacher had all the potential to do a Batman masterpiece on TDK´s league cause he is a great director (The Lost Boys, Flatliners, A Time To Kill, etc...) but he was just too dumb to do it. What a shame.
0:09 kinda sounds like Bane... 'Coming, for you?'
I feel I'm missing the significance of what is written in the book. Anyone able to clarify things for me?
GoldenLioness100 His father's last journal entry: "Bruce insisted on seeing a movie tonight". Because of this, Bruce has felt guilty all these years.
@@jarekgunther But he misunderstood the entry. Bruce wanted to see a movie in the house but his father insisted in going out.
If you do cut this into a film, could you please upload an AVI torrent to Pirate bay as well as making a huge DVD version for FanEdit or whatever? Because I can never get those DVD files to work.
I own Batman Forever on VHS and twice on DVD and the novelisation and some of the figures, so I think I should be allowed to illegally download it once.
Riddler was more for Robin Williams.
MANBAT FTW!
2:56
Kilmer's face is very bat-like...
Epic! Just epic!
So many scenes that were deleted......why? My childhood was a lie man lol
loved this scine the one scine they should hav enot taken out
*scene
@X2Magneto I know. I'm not sure why they did that for this clip and not the other one I uploaded...
Full cut please
wow...from Batman to a Monster movie......
are any of these deleted scenes in a dvd or blue ray release?
Still makes me mad that they cut the most pivotal scene of the film, the basis for the whole title lol
fucking christ! WHY did they remove it from the movie!??? so creepy and still i got huge nerdchills all over... would have been a huge deal seeing that kind of background kind of information....
Lo mejor de esta película son las escenas eliminadas. DC puro.
loved this scine the one scine they should have
not taken out
But it's really him, kirk langstrom.
Whait, wuuuuuut ?????!!!!!!!!!!
that isn't Man Bat.
2:56
This scene would honestly suit batman the musical
I can't read what it says at 2:32
8 years later but here it is 😂
4pm- Bruce insists on seeing a movie tonight
5pm- Martha and I have our hearts set on Zorro, so Bruce’s cartoon will have to wait until next week.
There is scenes cut from the movie that show Bruce was upset that his parents died but it wasn’t that that made him run away and fall down the cave and see the bat. It’s something he’s repressed for years ever since and that played in to the dynamic between him and Nicole Kidman’s character and him wanting to but not being able to open up to her. It turned out he had seen his fathers journal at the funeral and the entry that Bruce insisted on seeing a movie that made him blame himself, take the journal and run away and that’s when he fell in to the cave. He seen the bat flying at him, became scared and then later used Batman to put the same fear in to people he encountered. Now as an adult he went back to what made him become what he had, and he remembered that it was his fault.. then he seen that his parents made him see a different movie therefore it wasn’t his fault as his cartoon would’ve either been on tv at home or on at a different time at the movies so he let all the past go. Now when the bat flew at him again as an adult, he wasn’t afraid, he embraced it, showing that Batman wasn’t a symbol of fear anymore and a way for him to hide, but was a symbol of good and a part of him as a person.
MikeyD7 thanks
It's kinda like man bat
Would Warner Bros. make a Man-Bat movie based on the DC Comics character?
Bruce en tête à tête a Man bat
2:56
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😜😜😜😜👍🦇👍🦇
Wtf did I just watch he forgot who he was for like two min should have went a lil more with that story line
Wow this movie is a shit but this scene is AMAZING!
Kilmer is the best Bruce Wayne/Batman after Bale.. the rest are crap
As corny as that shit was, I'm glad they cut it out of the movie LOL