Replacing a NOT professionally installed epoxy garage floor. Acid etching failed...AGAIN
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
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I did my own floor in a brand new house, and I still rented a grinder and did mechanical prep. Everything I read and all the advice said grind not etch. 10+ years and still looking great.
It is worth the extra work
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions FWIW the grinding wasn't a giant hassle. A bit messy buy you're also not having to deal with the acid or fumes.
If my floor has oil stains, is grinding all you do? Or degreaser recommended after grinding? Assuming the oils seeps down.
@@Roadshopaudio oil is impossible to completely remove from Concrete. You can degrease first, then diamond grind and you simply have to hope for the best. There are no guarantees with oil stains.
Here is what I learned from watching Concrete Solution videos. You didn't say it, because you are nice and don't want to trash the competition...but I've seen enough UA-cam videos to figure it out. Virtually any suburbia home built since the 1980's has a garage with sealed concrete. Unless you build a new house and request no sealer on the cement, it will be sealed. Yet, companies market the acid etching approach for convenience when they know damn well that it won't work...that in reality, a surface grind is required for proper adhesion in virtually all of the cases. But they don't tell you that in clear terms and emphasis that acid etching in all likelihood will not be an option for the overwhelming majority of folks. They let customers buy and use the acid etching and invest in the tools, primer, topcoat and clear coat that is surely to separate in the very near future because of no pores for adhesion. What a racket this acid etching is to the consumer... and those companies get away with it. They know most DIYers would be put-off if they realize they will be burdened with the additional cost of rental for a diamond re-surfacing tool, having to go pick it up and return it, set up dust control system, as well as the extra work involved in the actual grinding/resurfacing to do it right.
When someone makes a complicated job look this easy to follow, you know they are highly skilled. The finish turned out beautiful!
but it's not complicated in the least
I was surprised that the flakes are thrown on top, and not mixed in with the epoxy. I know there's probably a really good reason for it, but it just caught me out.
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 it probably might settle in epoxy, so no consistency
@@zh3nox Yeah, it's obviously been tried and tested.
I like hearing the birds in the back
You guys definitely know how to do epoxy floors. I can tell that you guys really take pride and care in your work. Good job!
Thank you for watching and noticing.
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions hi ! Nice job after to apply the clear paint , what is that the white thing . Do you have the name ?
@@dario_kun The white powder like staff is called Aluminum Oxide.
I can tell you have no fucking idea how the job gets done either
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions you guys are acting as if you’re the best people around for the job but my family has 4 business all throughout utah and all you’re doing is shitting on my work. I hav me garages that have lasted longer than you’ve ever done this job.
This video explains to me why there are so many garage paint reviews that say "I did everything the instructions said and all peeled off". This stuff is an art and requires real attention to detail.
yeah a lot of them homeowners have no business doing it
Mine have been going 15 years strong at this point. Followed the directions. Cleaned meticulously and did all the prep. Looks great.
Our pro installed epoxy flooring has been down for 15 years now. Zero issues. That pretty well sums it up for me.
Very impressed with the attention to detail and overall quality of this install. 90% of professionals won't even do this good of a job.
Thank you for noticing.
It's so sad too! A mark of a true professional is one who makes the job look easy but also, leaves the place just as good or better then they left it. I'm halfway through the video and he is a true professional!
@@professionalcommenter I've been watching 1puglife on UA-cam get his epoxy floors done. He's had 3 guys come in do a completely terrible job and here is 4 months later sanding it all and doing it himself.
How much did this job cost out of curiosity?
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions i could do it better if i was doing it longer than you guys :)
I bought your system and installed per your advice and videos. Been about 6 months and it still looks brand new. What a great product.
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did you rent a sander?
@@racker7855 Did you end up hiring one?
These guys certainly know what they're doing. It's good to see that we still have qualified professionals in this country.
Thank you, we put a lot of effort into making sure we install floors as close to perfect as possible
As a contractor what I usually see is that the homeowner almost never wants to pay for the prep work because you can't see it when the work is done. Everyone says just etch and paint. Or we don't want to pay for underlayment mat, gravel, sand then pavers. Just put sand over the old stuff, tamp it and lay them pavers please. Nothing wrong with the contractor following the homeowners demands as long as you explain to them that they are looking at failure in the future. Most don't care or i hear were moving anyway. Then the inevitable happens as were watching in this video. I have a hard time blaming the previous worker or company without knowing the whole story that leads up to an extensive remodel.
Great point.
That’s the problem people give cheap options then when someone prices to do the job right it’s “too high”. If more contractors just learned to not offer the cheap options more people would realize the actual costs to do the job right. But always will be hacks in any industry just have to build your client base on the good customers they will refer you. Whenever I hire someone I want to hear they are not cheap but do very good work. If u start to do the cheap work they will share u with others looking for the same thing and u don’t need those kind of customers.
There may be nothing wrong with following the homeowner’s request, especially if you are a fly by night contractor, but just remember that when the job fails the person who gets blamed isn’t the homeowner, but the contractor. Do you really want to be that contractor?
That's why a good product salesman won't even give that option. Do it right or not at all because in the end you are the expert and the end result comes back to your work and not what the person who has no idea what they actually want other then the most affordable price. No matter how cheap the job is doing it twice is still more expensive than doing it once right
As a homeowner, I just started doing things myself because I found out the prep work and anything else you can't 'see', doesn't get done, they lie and cover it up, say they did and charge the homeowner. Hiring a contractor is a scam. You have to take off work, and literally stand over them and make sure they are actually doing it, and not cutting corners.
It’s cool watching you walk over the puddles and not leave prints
I know how's that work?
@@big502chevy5 spike shoes, look like crocs, you can see in video if you look hard
@@big502chevy5 they’re called cleats
@@mabals no, they're called spiked shoes.
Good to know, I was curious about those shoes.
Its so nice to see someone that takes pride in there work
i completely agree. This company knows, is experienced and does the job right. BEWARE, there are so many "Bad" "Only for the money" "Fake" contractors on this earth.
Plenty of people take pride in their work.. unfortunately a lot of the work is nothing to be proud of, like the previous coating in this video.
What a bunch of BS...
How long has the original floor lasted ?
How much did it cost?
If it was a $129 Home Depot kit. It has done a great job. Only flacking where the tires are are located. Sure he was flacking off the loose stuff. But it quickly transitioned to solid . Even though it was clear the bare spot had been there for a long time. It had not spread.
Give me a wire brush and some cleaner and a pint of epoxy garage floor paint and all fixed for $35.
Most people can't afford a $400 emergency car repair
The consistency of randomness is what makes that flake look so incredible! Just fling it up in the air and let the universe take its course! Great job guys.
I still don't get why anyone would want flakes. Especially if you're dropping screws etc. why are you trying to make it harder to find them? haha. It's personal taste no doubt but I love the clean look. I guess in this case the light flake isn't so bad..
@@digitalsmithy Good thought. I really like the flake look, and I imagine it hides a lot of sins, but I never consider the "loose screw scenario"! Good call
@@IanTheWoodchuck and good call with hiding stains etc. I guess that's obviously the main reason to do it in the first place :)
One huge advantage of the flake is it is like camouflage on the floor, at least if you do damage the floor it won't stick out like a sore thumb
Making something look random is often more difficult than it sounds.
I have poured epoxy bartops and tables for over 35 years and found by mixing epoxy in one bucket then pour and scrape sides of the first mix bucket into another then mix again you never have those poorly mixed or unmixed fails.
Beautiful work !!!!
You're a good teacher I like how you talked about the trees affecting the work. Leaving a pile to soak the roller in. Very good work. Thanks for the video.
No idea why this video appeared for me, but it's always great to see someone do a good job start to finish.
@J P I really need to try and get the copyright on that...
I never thought I would be awake at 3:25am watching videos about good shed floorings.
Here at 4:12 am lol
3:48 am for me 🙄
When I saw you guys prepared well for your safety and sample preparation, I knew you are so professional. Wish if I can find like you around here.
I do the exact same thing as a job as well as concrete microtopping floors. You guys do a good job. Not sure why I got home from work and watched a video of the exact same floor I do.
Because it’s nice to see somebody else work as hard as you while you’re sitting on the couch. Lol
I do the same lol. But I work in a different trade.
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions true that! Lol
I did epoxy with my dad on my parents’ house back when my dad was still a contractor and all he did was acid etch it. It failed almost immediately and we never knew why. I was just a kid. But now I know why 😆
Remember "clean white concrete". :)
If you don’t completely rinse the acid of and let throughly dry until all the moisture is out of the concrete it will begin to fail in 24 hrs.
@@billprezioso3677 never use acid. You will never completely get it out of the pourous concrete and there's no way of ever knowing if you did.
@@michaelmcgee2026 You could say the same thing about any product and who really knows if it will affect the performance of the paint somewhere down the road, pressure washing it out and sufficient drying time to remove moisture content is key,I’ve done many of these in my 35 years and the only one that failed earlier than it should have was because I rushed the job and didn’t allow proper drying time.
Some people (idiot me )thought that when epoxyshield was remanufactured to a water cleanup product that it could be applied to a slightly damp surface and that wasn’t the case and still isn’t so today that was why it failed on a job I did it taught me to make sure the concrete has a really low moisture content before application.
I didn't know that one spread the flakes by hand, like that. Fun to see, and the result looked so good.
Thank you for making videos like this.
Well done. :)
If I've learned anything from this video I learned the term "CLEAN WHITE CONCRETE"
Except concrete is grey because portland cement is grey.
Also that’s racist, CNN told me so
Challenge: take a shot every time he says clean white concrete.
I believe clean, white, concrete is what defines a man.
what about CONSISTENCY
note: When you set your camera on the tripod, turn your camera lens to manual focus. Make sure it is focused & remember to turn the stabilizer off. That should take care of your blur. Thank you for the information on how to treat the concrete. You guys rock!
And as a contribution: make sure to use an aperture like 8 or above, to get all in focus. Will improve your end result (video wise, not the instruction, because that is awesome!)
I'm a pro painter and don't attempt these jobs. They require specialist product, equipment and skills. Great work guys. You can tape the front lip for a razor edge if you seal the tape edge with an appropriate mastic, and peel off while still wet.
Haha...whatever. special tools. Your a painter.
I love the rolling chair! Saves your back and knees for sure!
Ya
Rac A Tac
Take a shot every time he says "Clean White Concrete" .
I did, and when he got to the blurry image I've thought that the last shot was just too much.
I woke up with my phone open to this comment, and a guy in medical scrubs screaming about the dead rising or some crap. Also, why does this say you posted this four days ago?
Wel tha was certainly an intleretin interesting exprriment
Clea white concrete
Too many sh0ts
Bonus round: now try adding a shot for the word consistently.
Good luck.
🥳🤣
Watching real professionals working their trade is awesome 👌
Thanks for watching
You made it look so easy, however I will not try myself. You should never try to beat another man at his game. Great job.
I really enjoy watching someone passionate about their profession. Very well narrated and explained, definitely earned my sub!
That first floor application was why I had my shop floor polished instead of coated, I couldn't empty it out if it a coating came unbonded. That and the polishing was 1/3rd less than epoxy and at 24k sq. ft. the savings were substantial. EDIT: Forgot to say it's nice to see a craftsman take pride in his work, great job!
Thank you for noticing
How much did you pay to have it polished? Per sq ft?
Great video and very informative. I've been in the painting business for many years now and this video helped me decide to stop climbing ladders and remain a ground-based mammal. No more ladder-climbing for me I'm done with that. Thanks guys and I can tell you you're a lot like me, you take pride in what you do and most everyone knows that's what makes a successful business. There's no substitute for quality. Sincerely Dean B.👍👍👍
I understand your point and wish you all success.
But if you find yourself in a situation that your client wants you to work on heights, make sure you insist on safe means. So make sure to use a scaffolding or something like that. They want the work done and it shouldn't go at the cost of your safety.
Just saying. 😏
I refinish hardwood and have done a few of these, thinking about getting into the business. All of mine turned out great but I only have a regular buffer and finishing and resin knowledge. I need to get the better concrete equipment and go in business, thanks for the vid.
Most people don’t understand that moisture comes through concrete. When you put hot tires on it it draws more moisture up. The rising moisture is pushing against the back of whatever finish you apply. The hydraulic pressure pushes the finish off if it’s not bonded well. What this guy is doing is the correct way. He clearly has pride in craftsmanship which is rare these days. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
Thank you very much for watching and thank you for the great comment.
These guys spot on. Removing contaminants with the diamond grinder is the way to avoid call backs and the safest way to do it.
Obviously, if the hot tires caused problems you are dealing with really poor quality epoxy(or paint) and possibly whoever etched the floor did not neutralize the acid.
I have never ever had a problem with epoxy bonding to clean smooth concrete that is not scratched with a diamond grinder but I am usually dealing with concrete that has no oil contaminates,,,,,,,,,,
but that said, I just hired a friend who has an epoxy flooring company to do my basement and he hit my fairly new floor hard with the diamond machine to break through where I power trawled the surface smooth when I poured SCC (6"). I had filled cracks 10 years prior with no primer and it was solid when ground down but again I used a high quality epoxy. He used a primer after grinding and it stayed tacky before the first base pour of epoxy.
I have mixed feelings about the primers on surfaces that already have a vapor barrier below. The primer is not as strong since its a waterbourne 2 part acrylic type sealer (and a vapor barrier) but if you get the post seal coat of epoxy on within a certain amount of hours it seems to bond. I prefer using the straight epoxy versus a water bourne sealer to seal the floor since epoxy is so damn strong and soaks in very well especially when pre heated.
Bottom line is, make sure you have a really high quality non blushing floor epoxy if doing a DIY; when you prep make sure you neutralize the acid etch and let it dry. Also follow instructions exactly!
My dad and me did it on his garage floor. Put the washer the floor well, filled the cracks, put epoxy down, added flakes, waited for it to dry completely and applied a coat of wax on top. It’s held up perfectly for 3 years now and wasn’t hard at all (:
I have heard of the wax before but never tried it
Should Never acid etch a garage floor. It changes the the PH and other properties of concrete. You guys do great work!
Thank you for watching.
This video saved me from just pouring epoxy over my splotchy basement floor. I'm definitely calling a specialist to help me prepare my floor properly. Thank you for sharing your work.
You made it interesting enough to watch in one sitting without ever breaking from how seriously you take your work. Incredible job.
This floor looks great. You are a master of the flakes and spikes.
Grinding is a far superior prep for all the reasons you mentioned and others. Acid etching is a pretty shallow process on well cured concrete. When finishing precast concrete panels, the acid works better the more green the concrete it is. Staining is an issue as concrete is porous and lots of things in garages (primarily oils) will act as a form release agent. Chlorides from road salts will also weaken the surface of the concrete over time and this weaker concrete may not be removed with just an acid etch, but grinding it will easily do so. If the flatwork guys happened to add more water to the mix when pouring to make it easier to float it will be weaker (especially the very top where excess water can get worked into the top of the mix). If the flatwork guys overworked the concrete when troweling or troweled too soon the top surface will again be weaker. Aggragate can be more porous than cement paste. Long story short, grinding to remove the softest concrete will allow for a better bond than any acid etch and will not change the concrete chemistry which is rather alkaline by nature.
Indeed. Or blasting it with ballbearings. The etching probably failed because the rubber debris is acid resistant.
@@sticky170 exactly.
I like grinding also or shot. Leaving a defined scratch, but my jobs are spec acid etch. Warranty purposes I have to, would you do first? Etch wash then grind then wash again. I prep 50,000 sqft tennis court for painting. So vacuuming is too slow. We blow it off and wash. Any thoughts?
@@2squeege that seems extremely redundant. I would simply diamond grind and apply a good primer.
What is the point of acid etching and then diamond grinding? Acid etching apparently doesn't do enough
Watching from the UK where this sort of flooring doesn't seem very common in domestic properties. Possibly because we rarely put vehicles in our garages!
Or perhaps because it's more costly them most home-owners are prepared to afford. However it looks really good and would definitely be better than the floor paint we tend to use.
The grinding stage is what makes this seem out of reach at a diy level.
Thanks for a really interesting video 👍🏻
you can easily rent those grinders, just need to be able to transport them I guess. For that you need a giant pickup truck if the parking lot of Home Depot is anything to go by
@@chir0pter To translate to UK, he means go to HSS and put the seats down in your Civic.
I don't think an epoxy floor is the best for dampness, and if there's anything the UK leads the world in, it's wet shoes.
Just amazing,, love it when people take high pride in their work. I would definitely hire these guys anyday
I’ve worked in the trades for years. You are an excellent craftsman and you explain things well. Bravo.
Thank you
Great job!
As a DIY'er I bought a 2 part epoxy kit to do on the garage floor and it was a nightmare. It was less than 150 dollars for the whole kit.
The instructions said it can be applied up to 45 minutes after mixing.
It started to harden in less than 15 while I was applying it and could not spread it out in time.
I ended up having to grind it off again and redo it, thinking I did something wrong.
So I bought another 2 part epoxy kit from the same seller, and tried to spread it out fast.
Turned out bad, I am now stripping it all again this year and going to use something simpler.
Oh well, lesson learned.
Watch out for inferior epoxy scam products.
I would appreciate if you at least say who the manufacturer was. It definitely wasn't our material. I agree not all epoxies are the same.
When you say you bought this epoxy kit, it sounds like you're referencing ours which it absolutely is not our material.
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions
I agree it wasn't your material, never said it was.
It was very miscellaneous as it was from an independent seller. I could not find any info on it.
If I recall it said "King" on the label/sticker where the instructions were.
I maybe wrong but, I really don't think that epoxy was meant for applying on large square footage area, even though the advertisement said it was.
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions I edited it so it's more clear now.
@@snivvelslurderagementai2560 appreciate that.
If you're ever looking to do it again, the right way with quality materials, let me know. You can always email me directly jason@concretefloorsolutions.com
I used to do epoxy floors and I wish we had those chairs / rolling knee saver things and your large grinder , we beadblasted mostly.
I have a job later this month doing a garage like this. Glad this came up on my recommendations
If you have any questions, let me know
@@ConcreteFloorSolutions Thanks I love all your videos. Keep up the great work I'm learning here
As my teacher said, "Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance!"
as ive learned the 6 P's, "proper preparation prevents piss poor performance" 👍
Very thorough from the beginning diagnosis to the finished product. 👍
I *love* to watch pros at work. Thanks for sharing.
Great video
I do this as well but trying to educate clients is almost impossible with trying to get them get them to understand time and preparation to get the perfect results when people going around doing for nothing and just use a leaf blower before applying
As a plumber, that water line has been an eyesore this whole video.
Is that an exposed aquapex line in a "new" house?
@@dragons_red Yep. Would you be surprised if I told you that install isn't legal?
@@javiervazquez9472 why isnt it legal?
@@forest3945 pex cannot be exposed like this. Prone to damage.
@@javiervazquez9472 that makes sense
Huh this is exactly how my garage floor looks down to the tyre marks and everything. Now I know what went wrong...
If it was under the tires it was likely shitty epoxy rather than floor contamination or bonding. Unless there happened to be oil and contamination under only the tire spots when you poured, Of course as mentioned not neutralizing acid or following directions will do it too,
Preparation is the most important part of any job.
One of the best explainer videos I’ve seen. Thank you.
Such an art form , excellent work !
Just to know there is a difference of Professional and Properly Installed, you do NOT have to pay someone but you do have to do it correctly. Plenty of bad "Pros" out there too.
I absolutely agree
Just because somebody does something for a living doesn't mean they're good at what they do. This goes for all professions.
I get paid for what i know, not what i do.
Well the fact is the kits at the big box stores are not the same grade of what the pros use, also the products the pros use is substantially more expensive. Hence why.a job done by a pro cost more plus it will be done right. See the so called DIY know it alls work and the headaches they cause us pros. A pro having to clean up a diy shit show costs you more
@@zack9912000 Bad Pros cause "shit shows" too and it cost you extra for the privilege. Why it is important to vet your vendor or contractor. Many are great but there are some no so much.
I was just thinking "why didn't he scrape the flakes off" and "why didn't he tape the edge" and then he answered those questions. Thanks bud.
This was a Masterclass. Thanks For taking the time to share this. I might try it one day!
Thank you for watching
When mixing epoxy, a good tip is to mix until you feel you've got it really mixed well... and then keep mixing.
and then after youve got it mixed to the point you think its overkill, repeat step one two times.
And then after 2 years of nonstop mixing take a 2min break and mix for another 2years. This step is critical, don’t skip!
What I learned from this video; Hire a pro for this job! Thanks.
the old pinch and throw method lol yup he's done than once or 4 times before nice job boys lol
Like the time you two men this garage floor ! very professionally done .will watch it again thanks.
The problem with these videos is people like you don’t exist in my area so I’m left to chance hoping I get a true professional half as skilled. Great job.
I understand, at least you know what to ask or what to watch for when someone is doing your install.
Very informative video. I have the same problem. I thought I was getting the best possible product and the proper installation, but the vendor just sold me on hiring him. The epoxy is just cracking and lifting at the cracks. I'm not in PA, but at least I have hope this can be repaired. I'll look for someone in the area. Thanks!
How much many flakes do you want?
Customer: Yes
actually this was the opposite, they wanted it light.
All the flakes
If you look at the before and after, the flake density is noticeably lower now.
I find it strange there's such a pronounced step on the edge of that garage floor entrance. Also that big grinder is impressive! Great results!
that is literally my floor!! Unfortunately, I'm the one that installed it and it was done with acid etching. Lesson learned
I have no idea how this ended up in my recommendations, but this was a very enjoyable watch for me in my exhausted state.
Good job! Garage floor look nice.
Looks amazing, great job guys!
Fairly certain I've watched a youtube video of someone installing this very floor as a DIY project...
Holy shit you're right. I've seen this garage.
Where?
Ni
Made me immediately start looking couldn’t find it though lol
when someone says something over and over its because its very very important that you need to hear and "UNDERSTAND"
As a homeowner, I’ve done several of these Home Depot epoxy for coatings. I’ve had minimal problems the problems I’ve had are easily addressable. As you can see in the video overall the floor was successful, except where they failed to prep over the old oil stains. In my opinion, you do not have to grind. You just need to pay more attention and use a more aggressive etch over any oil, stains, or contamination. When I etch, particularly over older concrete, I use a much stronger solution than what they recommend with the kits.
The fact of the matter is, if you would grind the floor, it would not peel at all.
Acid does not penetrate oil, fact..
If it is done properly, you will not have any failure.
We'll agree to dissagree, but you are correct in that oil stains will not be effectively addressed by acid.@@ConcreteFloorSolutions
Looks very good. I did this 7 years ago the old fashioned way with simple floor tiles (stoneware). was a lot of work. this looks very fast.
Thanks for the info, that looks like a heavy flake to me so it gives some reference point to get a lighter flake. You said the top coat has an amber tint, will it yellow even more after a couple of years? What a fantastic job you guys did...it was such a mess when you started and explained all the steps & products. Beautiful floor.
You only see the amber color when you pour out the material and its puddled. Once you squeegee the material out its clear. The amber tint gives the material UV stability, so it may slightly cloud up in direct sun over years but not very noticeable.
I'm a painter, customers always ask me if i do garage floors ,I know what they mean ,do you do garage floors cheep ,never did one I know why they never called a pro ,they don't want to pay for it.
Basically the only reason lol
Yep see that daily doing hvac, they get some cheap ass craiglist guy they can't get ahold of anymore and then the pros have to try and clean up a piss poor job. The entire time the homeowners bitch about our costs to clean up their cheap install. I remind them YOU went with the cheap guy who isn't licensed and now we have to clean up because you are cheap
I did mine myself. Rented a machine from Home Depot to prep the floor. Looks and has been amazing. I think a lot comes down to the epoxy you buy. I paid more for the good stuff in a kit from a professional company. Took me less than a days work in total for a two car garage
Did you have to do any crack repair? How did you know what dimonds to use?
Fabulous video and very clear instructions. Thank you!. PREP is the KEY to any good job! Very well reinforced in this video.
I started my floor coating business this year. You have a very impressive operation. Do you happen to have an equipment list? I’ve never seen someone recut the saw joint to clean it before. That’s an awesome idea!!
My dad owns an epoxy company.
--prep; 3 in grinders/sanders, 7 inch grinders (get different heads for them because you never know how hard the concrete will be), 120/220 v grinders (nice for small garages/sheds), 480 v grinder, diamonds for soft, medium,hard concrete, we use blasters as well if need be, strong sucking vacuum, Saw, standing saw. soft and stiff brooms. extension cords, generator, dust masks, ear plugs, work gloves, chipper, knee pads, wet vac + filter
--Floor: small drill/big drill depending what you are mixing, 2&5 gallon pales, plastic/cardboard for mix area, roller pans, 3",9",14" roller covers, extension handles, duct tape, masking tape, toweling, MEK for cleanup (Methyl Ethyl Ketone), brushes, squeegees (flat/notched depending on floor type), hand squeegee (goof for under shelves/benches ect.), rubber gloves, garbage bags for clean up, caution tape to put up after floor is complete for it to dry
--common tools that would come in handy are a hammer, hand chipper, putty knives, 5 in one for scraping saw cuts, razor blades, plug in lights if working in a low light area
the more the merrier. You dont NEED everything to lay a quality floor but it comes in handy when a problem arises. I may be missing a few things but these are things we use on a weekly basis
@@FunnyFixxd thanks for your time!
@@tacticalenough6334 no problem, wish you the best! Stay out of my territory;) lololol
@@FunnyFixxd hahaha
@@kellynkarr lolol
Taking every measure! Straight profession, kudos! Been a carpenter 19 years, love seeing people in any trade who take it seriously, enjoy it and take those extra steps.
Thank you for noticing, and thank you for watching
measure twice cut once
That’s definitely Rust-Oleum Epoxy from local hardware stores that someone had done before.
new viewer, I see home owners painting and throwing those little flakes onto the floor. Nice to know that it is a short cut that fails in no time....I have learned in my life, with everything I do--- the proper prep is key to any job from building something to washing dishes!!!! makes the job go smoother and faster in the long run.
Good job guys it warms my black heart to see people who care about quality work =)
90% of painting anything with anything is prep work
No...about 30%. Then the there is knowledge how to do it and sequence and finally application...
What is the the other 10%
@@ben3462 Lunch.
@@thomasdragosr.841 where I'm from working men don't take lunch breaks till work is 100% complete then take 15 min beer break 🍻
@@ben3462 I worked on big construction for about 40 years. I know what goes on.
I don’t think it was even etched looks like they just did a quick sweep and rolled some paint over it
Totally shit job. No prep and I don't think it got a topcoat. The topcoat is a bandaid for lack of prep but makes it more of a membrane not just a coating and that will help your shitty work or the diy last longer.
Yeah it didn’t look like they had any primer either. So basically no prep beyond maybe washing the concrete or using a blower on it.
The way they walk with the spikes on reminds me of how Meiji women would walk with those wooden stilt shoes.
This takes me back to the days of working with epoxy. This is what most of my days were like. Garages were always my favorite they are so simple
I used to work for a national supplier and installer of resinous floor systems. EVERYTHING you said on prep is spot on. We would never acid etch.
100% here because I *did* not grind my floors. And paying the price lol.
Much of the surface profile doesn't look all that bad to me. Looks like CSP-3. You didn't show the bottom side of the chips you were removing. Was there concrete stuck to the bottom? That would be substrate failure of the soft concrete and not necessarily poor workmanship. Hot tires? Unless you're racing it's generally not the heat of the tires that causes the failure where the tires sit. I would guess that the existing coating is one of the cheaper products on the market that lacks the chemical resistance needed to withstand chemicals brought in from the road as well as plasticizers in the tire compound that causes failures in those spots. Chemical resistance is critical. Sawcut detailing looks really good. The penetration of the low-viscosity primer should help fortify the soft concrete. Good advice on applying the chips. I usually throw them higher but your point of getting them high so they diffuse is excellent. I like to throw the Aluminum Oxide higher and bounce it off the walls. Also good to have a spotter to make sure you don't miss a spot with the clear coat. Hard to see those and they really show up later as the chips will get dirty if they aren't clear coated. Good job.
Dude that's not ground at all what are you going on about? That ain't no csp3. That's a horrible acid etch home depot kit job. Epoxy is garbage anyway.
The coating simply peeled off the floor, did not pull any concrete at all. There was ZERO profile under the coating at all. There is now.
Looks good guys I’m from Philly area too but have you ever tried using a Kraft Parmesan cheese bottle to broadcast the flakes it’s virtually impossible to screw it up just point the opening up in the air and shake until you reach the desired look.
...added benefit your garage smells like an Italian meal when you come home. Works with an old chilli shaker too!
@@Cheepchipsable well since I’m Italian and not Mexican I think I’ll keep using the Parmesan cheese bottle
I etched and years on just 2 spots have lifted totaling less than a square foot total. I did a good, careful job, pressure-washed the etched concret, and especially keeping my hands off the surface for 4 days... hands and feet and tires.
You can't beat Wooster Poles. Mine are over 20 years old and still going strong.
Good Job! Just a preference thing, I wouldn't go for the flakes. Maybe a white epoxy....
It was a flake floor from the start. That’s what they were replacing. They couldn’t just go in and pour some red and gold dragon pattern into the floor, it’s made how the owner wants. 24:48 Clearly states she asked for the flakes again, it’s what she wants. Don’t think she wanted a white floor
What an absolutely ridiculous comment smh
Doing it yourself is ABSOLUTELY possible with a kit from a hardware store. Doing so saved me $1000s. Mine still looks incredible after 5 years.
You right. I have seen it Done professionally in commercial buildings, they really have to work out oil stains or the stuff won't stick.
Yeah my garage was converted into a room my floor kinda has the same look in this video we did it 7 years ago and it still looks beautiful
Not hard to look good when you don’t put any heavy load with a twisting motion on it.
I did my floor myself and it turned out great...that was over 10 years ago. No issues, just followed the simple directions.
So that's how they do it...🤔🤯 I didn't realize how many steps are involved. Nice!
The reason it didn't stick cuz where he had his car parked at before he had it painted where he used to use armor all on his tires
mainly heat from the tyres
I can't say whether they did or did not use armor all, what I can say is lack of preparation did not remove the Armor all and the coating didn't stick. Either way lack of preparation was the problem.
More flower girls need to see this video.
Lol
Great work guys, excellent info... finally information from someone who's doing a professional job correctly and not a BS artist...
man, i wish I could find TRUE professionals like you guys in my area.
Thanks for watching