Rendering Walls Made Easy With This Bagged Render ("I Should’ve USED THIS YEARS AGO!!!")
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The Old ways of rendering is slow and unreliable. This modern guide to will show you a faster, more efficient way to render walls. We’re ditching sand cement render and getting rid of old tools.
I’ll show you a better process for rendering where we’re using better materials, better tools and a totally different process. If you’re serious about rendering then I think you’ll love this video.
Let us know what you think by commenting below. And please like and subscribe to our channel for more up to date ways to render and plaster.
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Thanks for watching. I'll see you one the next one.
Cheers.
Blaine Gray,
Plastering For Beginners
#rendering #plastering #construction #diy #plasteringwork
Excellent vid and very well put together and very informative. You used some techniques, materials and tools that I’m going to try out. Thanks for the vid.
Thank you mate. I really appreciate that!!
I'm 58 and never used the materials you are using or the power tool. Will try this on a small job first to get a feel. Thanks
Been doing it for years mate , I use the mesh for first coat tho
Me and my old man have always used this. Will mesh first coat would never mess about with a sand cement mixer
It’s good stuff mate!!
Watched your other content for a bit of an education on my outside garden wall, heard about this OCR so I'm going to give it a go.
It’s good stuff mate! Good luck my friend
With OCR it’s a one coat system, why did you apply in two coats, scratching the first?
Totally agree. It’s a one coat application
Another well explained vid. Definitely be giving this product a try on my next rendering job
Cheers Blaine 👍
Thank you mate. All the best my friend 👍
Brilliant video pal. We are just using the new render Weber oc...
How soon do you use the power float after applying the second coat?
Thanks pal 👌👌
Bloody hell im buying a power float
I’m rendering my house
37 years a spread
Thanks mate
Nice work ?
Top vid as always Blaine 👍 Quick question.. if I'm breaking down large walls into smaller sections, would you recommend expansion beads to do this? Cheers!
Exactly the same question that I have!
What about spraying it? I think you forgot to talk about that. 👌
Very good point my friend - great future video ☝️
I don't have much room it this area, because I never spray, so it's just a question to someone who done this before, but wouldn't you need labourer?
@@PlasteringForBeginnersok mate can you put waterproof in this stuff if I wanted to scratch 1 day & top coat the next. Cheers
Hi mate looks great im no plasterer but want to do some planters on concrete block do i have to mesh it ?
For difficult substrates (some paint remains and mixed construction of brick and concrete), would a mix neat SBR and sharp sand provide an adequate key for Weber one-coat base coat? Or would you suggest something else on a tight budget?
I'm sure you said it's one coat ,and the bag says it's one coat ,why the two coat process
If you lay it on too thick it’ll be too heavy and it’ll start to sag. This can lead to a wavy effect in the finished product. It’s just easier to do two or three thin coats.
Hi, your videos are great! Would you put mesh in between your coats of OCR? Thanks
Very good job, but who in their right mind will decide to render a great looking facing brick wall?
If you were puting external insulation, sure.
Also, it's best to embed a mesh in the first coat.
👍👍
Hi, love your videos.. Can I ask, if you were rendering a garden planter, what render would you recommend using for the top edge where water is likely to sit when it rains? Thanks.
Nice job!!👍👍
Thank you!
Amazing but one question. Can that be painted
can you paint over this OCR with regular masonry paint?
Yes mate or silicone top it
@@seanwalsh1613 awesome thanks bud
One thing I wanted to ask, is if I were to do a scratch coat first, could I leave it like a day or so before doing the top coat? Can't get much ocr currently and only have enough to do a scratch coat. So was hoping I could scratch coat it and wait till it comes back in stock
Also I'm going to rendering onto breeze block.. would i need to use a mesh for this?
Hi
Can you please tell me, which material is suitable for applying over waterproofing walls????
Please tell me
Thanks
What’s cheaper though the old sand and cement method or this premix. I always thought these premix bags where just for spot repairs
Hi Blane, love the vids. What cement would you recommend Portland or Masonary for rendering onto Celcon/Thermalite blocks also what miz ratio would you suggest for the scratch coat and top coat? many thanks
What about armouring with mesh in between the two coats?
Hi. May I ask why do you have to do it in layers.? Cau you just do it in 1 layer like sand and cement mortar?
another excellent vid and very informative as always. Off the subject of rendering about a month ago you put up a video on how to apply plaster to a wall With a roller and at the end you informed us that you were going to do a more in-depth video on the subject. If so when could we expect to see a follow up. Many thanks and great channel.
Good point my friend. It’s coming in the near future - just sorting a few things and I’ll get it done. But it’s due, don’t you worry 👍
I need this on my external walls .. does this prevent walls from absorbing water ? Or does it need to be painted with water seal?
Never mind that pre grit, Use Webber rend aid for your scratch and leave it a couple of days to cure If you find it expensive for a scratch you can half and half it with sand and cement, Amazing product, Then top off with the OCR , No issues, Whatever you use Scratch should be left to dry a few days !! Basics of rendering
I’ll look into that mate…cheers 👍
yer thats what webber told me to use too. Rendaid with mesh
Hi Blaine, thanks for sharing these videos mate, they really are a great help. Do you mind if I ask, that if I were to use webber ocr in the coming weeks and presumably it will be still cold. Would it be a case of putting the two coats on, ruling off and floating the following day? Or does this stuff set the same day like a traditional rendered wall? Thank you
Your videos just get better. Thanks so much 👌🏻 xx
Blaine good vid we got some external walls to do on a pool building so going to get a Refina power float as well as diamond floats can I ask why you don’t use the sponge that comes with the power float ? Thanks mark from wolvo
I want to do this to my house foundation but it has stucco on it, do I remove the stucco first or can I apply this right over it? Any help would be greatly appreciated
Since when is plastering called rendering
Plastering refers to interior. Rendering refers to outside
@@josiahamaze then why are they working inside
I have a bungalow with P pebble - dash walls , is it possible for you to make a video on how to cover pebble dash walls with this new one coat render and the best way to a plie it...(do you use the Mesh or not ) I seen so many different ways of render( one coat) on videos Can you help Frank
Hey dude hope ur good see on this render job you stop beaded down the middle of the gable was that just to rule off and ur gonna do the other half? Good job bro
Top job mate👍, it's a game changer isn't it, started using it about 8-9 years ago, don't think I've used s an c since
It’s great stuff mate. I don’t I’ll go back either to be honest - it’s a game changer
Hi Blaine, what is the average coverage per bag. Thanks
How many meters was that gable bud 💪🏻
Hi Blaine . Can this product be used over 2 days as a scratch coat on 1st day and top on coat on the 2nd day the same as traditional render ? I ask as we have a huge gable end to render , client dosen't want wall broken up with beads .
Hi there. Love this product but wanted to use it over Yorkshire stone. Do you think it would be suitable if I use mesh and bonding agent with it? Or do you think I’ll need to do a cement render instead fully or just cement to fill in the ridges (which are quite shallow) then could I use OCR?
Also could I use it on mullions? Or you think cement is better? Cheers for any help as I’m struggling to get much help from the company directly and I’m quite new to this game.
Hi Blaine,
Are you using 6mm thin coat or 10mm beads accepted first ever job using Weber ocr so just wondering
Thanks
Luke.
What head do you use on the power float ?
Hi Blane quick question do you think it would be ok to use ocr on a scratch with waterproof.
Always been old school S&C what’s the water ratio for hand balling this product?
Great stuff, But….. try to get the same colour match if it needs a repair in future. Impossible!!
Great videos. Really helpful. Quick question - I’ve been reading that some industrial constructions use titanium dioxide in the mix to create a whiter finished render, rather than painting it. Is this something you could try to see how well it works? Painting is good but needs to be redone and the titanium dioxide apparently is self cleaning when in contact with air and water. Would be interested to see what you think. Thanks
Webber do a coloured finish in many colours for top coat and I've used the silicone render and I now use nothing else as it also acts as an additional water barrier too.
Be good if those machines come battery powered so much easier than a bloody cable dangling about
Hi. What is best silicone render Weber or k rend or this stuff?
Hi Blaine what depth are the render beads do you use for the OCR. Videos are brilliant btw, gives me the confidence to give it a go!
Why render a perfectly good brick wall ?
Great video bud if your doing big areas can you leave it over night or for a few days??? If yes would you pva the scratch
I’m sure you can - you’d just have to spray water on the render before applying the second coat.
Wouldn't use PVA outdoors ,SBR only
you gave me a great experience! I have been doing this for many years but you are a master of your craft!
thanks for the experience
Hi, Does it not require the net that goes before scratching?
Can you apply second coat of Weber render the following day if for example the weather turns or the areas too large or do both coats need to be applied same day ?. Thank you and love the videos my plastering has gone to another level.
Yeah you can matey. Just spray the wall with water first and you’re good to go. Thank you by the way - that means a lot. Cheers 👍👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners Thank you 👍
Would you not recommend any render mesh to go inbetween coats?
Great vid thanks, I have been using those sponge floats for ages they are brilliant, get yourself a Washboy grouting bucket they make cleaning the sponge floats a doddle
Great advice…cheers pal. I’ll look into it 👍
Loving your work but I am struggling to get my head around why someone would want to render a pretty newish built house. It seems like a pointless cost and adding maintenance costs in the future. I live in Shetland in an old house that’s been rendered from day one. We have to keep on top of the render. Then you have to make sure you need a high quality, expensive pain. No way would I refer a new build.
Cheers for sharing the knowledge again mate. Can’t wait to give it a go on my next landscaping wall.
Will probably try the Refina diamond and sponge floats too
Great to see people like you sharing what you know.
Oh, it’s Voila, not Viola 👊🏻
Thank you mate and good luck. You’ll love them…
And thank you but the correction 😂😂
Hi blaine , i have a job that requires webber ocr over marmox board that has been fixed to blockwork, ive only ever worked with sand and cement, the job requires 20mm thickness to as there has been brick slips stuck on plinth that are are 13mm proud , is it the same system for 20mm in doing 2 passes the same day or are you better scratch coat and top another day ? Thanks joe
It just seems basically you have more sponsorships
Ha I wish I was sponsored with this product! It’s just a very good variation to standard sand cement. It’s a game changer
Can you use an sbr slurry instead of pregrit
Which sponge floats are you using bud
This was the Refina Hydro Sponge - I love it mate. Great bit of kit!
Hi, your videos are great and really helpful, thank you. I am a little lost, as on one of your other videos you advise against using Monocuch render but OCR is Monocuch??
Covering brick🙄 we'll done
Does weber render stick well to cement board and do you need to mesh the cement board first? Thanks for any advice given
What is the rough cost to fully render an average sized 4 bed detached house in 2024?
Hi Blaine. We tried this product a few weeks ago and used mesh. But in places it delaminated,the top coat in places peeled away. The topcoat was applied straight away as soon as the mesh was put on. What could the reason be for this you think. Great videos as always
1st coat must have dryed,did you prime wall?
Did you scratch the first coat. If so, was there much depth to the scratch?? I find the mesh can reduce the key which could have effected the top coats grip.
I’ve found that a decent key is important if you’re applying it by hand
@@PlasteringForBeginners I put on about 10mm then trowelled the mesh in then trowelled on for the finished level. I presumed as the first coat was still wet it would stick really well. I done a bit today on a smaller area with out mesh and put a scratch on it and it was a hell of a lot better.
@@azzyidol Webber advised me to use Rendaid as scratch coat at approx 3mm, with mesh in the Rendaid, and use stipple roller and let it set. Then apply the OCR once the Rendaid has cured properly, and mesh again in the OCR
Great videos lad but here is my top tip for you me being a old fella, protect your nose in the sun lad I didn't and ended up with a hole 🕳️ in the tip of mine lol be safe stay well .
New to your channel. Have you done any pebble dash rendering? Curious about technique.
Cheers pal. I’ve only ever done a little bit of it but the demand for it isn’t here in Hastings so I never get the opportunity to do it.
Iv started to use Weatherby base and dash reciver , game changer, won't be going back to cement for dashing
It looks like whoever installed the lead flashing neglected to use Patination oil. Unfortunate.
If the walls are straight can you apply the first scratch coat with a roller flat it then scratch it instead of trying to do it with the trowel?
This stuff looks great , so it’s fine to finish even tho it says base coat on or do you use something else for the top coat ?
Blaine, is this a more expensive solution than sand and cement please? I have large garden wall areas to render and I am just starting out. I just don't know what would be more cost effective
Well explained video, is this product paintable, i think ive seen this in different colours. Thanks.
Cheers pal and yes…paint it what ever colour you want 👍
Excelente y muy hermoso trabajo felicidades saludos 👊👏👌🏻💪💯
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Will you see that plastic thing you nailed into the wall once finished?
Hi mate, is it possible to skim and tile over weber ocr on internal reveals.
Is there I primer that I could use.
Cheers, Chris.
Great video pal. We have just applied 2 coats of the oc Webber ...how soon after can we power float it. Thankyou pal 👌👌
Superb mate as always. Off subject (as other comments) What would you say is best flexi trowel about? I was using raf superflex2 and was decent enough but now has a kink in it that I can get out lol. Heard ox flex is very good but never used ox haha
Just blown me away Blaine, is it breathable??, kind regards Mike.norfolk.
Is this ok to use on previously rendered wall with blown bricks? Is it ok for filling voids between bricks or should I repoint first?
can you do a video on the difference between Hardwall plaster basecoat, and cement acrylic render? and what if you wanted to keep your walls rather thin? can you use less?
Hi Blaine love your videos top notch , just wondered what length of refina float would you reccomened? Many thanks
k rended front of my house after watching your vids decided back of house and new 6ft block garden walls were going to be sand/cement/lime mix are you now saying this weber is a better product? also what about costs v sand cement lime ?
It's expensive 😩 at about 25-30 a 25kg bag
@@willjohnston4320 so sand cement lume is cheaper option
@@EnglandAD927 yes definitely cheaper
Hi just came across your channel, great and informal videos.
Can I use this render to repair external walls. There are some parts of old render that have come off my house external walls.
Thanks
I'm guessing this isn't the same as silicone ones. But also have you used a base coat product for both coats? Is that the final coat?
Hi Blaine. I know this is a bit off topic. But just wondering if you know any other way of insulating and preventing damp in a bathroom using the solid plastering method rather than moisture resistant plasterboards?
Acrylic bag render has been in Australia for years . Don’t even need scratch coats
Hi Blaine another great vid can I put normal accelerator in with this product I used it today and took ages to be able to float .. first time using and I did like it 👍🏻 thanks mate
Can you apply weberend ocr on interior walls ?
I have a few questions regarding rendering 3 block pillars =. The pillars were sound until a small machine cause damage to the render whilst driveway being altered. Anyway, we decided to hack all the render off all three pillars that had been in place for 20+ years. So, as it stands the pillars are now back to bare block with caps removed. They have been like this, exposed to the elements for around 6 months. Now we are ready to render them do they need to be wrapped in plastic/polythene for a few days so as to dry out before rendering starts? My father insists they do but I am unsure?! Any advice would be appreciated.
If you're using cement render you need the blocks to be damp but not dripping wet. If the blocks are too dry they will suck the water out of the cement meaning it won't cure(hydrate) as well.
@@johnbennett5591 Thankyou for the prompt reply! A couple of fine days and will be making a start on them. I have a spray pump on hand to use if the blocks get to dry. Cheers
Hi blaine I've never used weber Ocr used most as I spray my render machine applied.
Is it a slow or fast setter.
I use baumit alot kzp 65 it's quite slow really which I like..
KZP is a cracking product to be fair. I really liked using it. OCR is quite a fast Setting product which what I like about - not tried it in the height of summer yet though. That could change things ha!
Wrong bead up the middle of the gable should be a expansion bead not a stop bead
how long after final coat can you decorate with paint?
How long does this have to be left to cure before painting? Cant seem to find the info on this
Hiya mate - quick one. How many bags do you think is needed for a 11 ft long wall. Width is approximately 3ft. ( providing I do a scratch coat and main coat like yours )
Many thanks
25kg bag covers 0.8m2 at 16mm thickness
Blain your a top guy, thank you for sharing this, however ! would you please wear a cheap mask when mixing.
The dust/powder will get into your lungs over time, no job is worth giving up your health for.
I do wear a mask mate - this stuff is horrible in the lungs ha. Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it pal
Could this be applied to a sand/cement scratch coat?
Why don't you pink grip the beads on? Genuine question
Hi Blaine. Great video. Can you paint over OCR once dry. Thanks
Yea mate
Which product silicone render colour would you use to finish the job?