Yep .444 marlin is my standard go to. The. 444 for me personally has been my straight walled big game cartridge..... sort of. It has been a very versatile case over the years for me. As a 444 has taken many harvest. Leaving you a empty case for 358, and 375 JDJ. Today I own neither. As for my single shot 410 I actually reload them with ffg black p propellant as my energy source 😉 😜. As for slugs there is a few hollow base conicals that I wouldn't mind trying. However because I am who I is a pillow ticking patched. 395 round ball works pretty good Mountain man
@captainnitro4459 Its a favorite! Powder is still good too!! Its been pink in the thirty years I have owned. PO was family friend and trap shooter. He reloaded in his garage. Powder stored there too. Mine is proper stored in small magazine climate controlled.
@@lawrencehudson9939 having moved to Europe almost 20 years ago, the country I live in is NOT firearms friendly. But if it was I would probably be using Vitavori powders, tried a few in the states and they were decent.
NOT that I don't know how to reload, just making a point that, why do a very few NOT show how to completely reload from beginning to end, and some do a FULL reload from tumbler cleaning to gluing the 'shot/load' disk in place??? I wish people would get it together and start following each other's lead one way or another instead of some saying that it's a NO-NO to show and tell, while others completely educate us on reloading from beginning to end. I understand NOT showing us how to make bombs, etc... But reloading is just an ordinary day for most folks who enjoy it. I'm here to see what I have yet not learned and tips and tricks like available shells compatible with using in my 410. I tend to stand by channels that are very educating in ALL aspects of ammunition......... BTW, I probably wouldn't go beyond using .444 Marlin because I don't need 3" bras shells that bad just to waste material blowing off a blank just to stretch a shell for reloading. And, like you said, it may take a couple 'blows' to stretch a shell..........
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 Good afternoon brother! OK here is a overview. All us content creators have the same rules to follow. Some dont know, other dont care. Thinknof it like a ride on the free way. We all know the speed limit and we all know we can probably get away with a lil over but if we go flat out, we will likely get caught. Well thats kinda like uTube. I value my channel. I value bringing everyone content so I try to abide by the rules. There rules are no showing of manufacturing ammunition. Now, do I feel there is a problem? Does my showing create a safety issues or a legalities or even moralities issues in my showing you everything in reloading? I DO NOT. BUT UTUBE DOES, so because it, is "by there leave" I am here and I can post. I try to follow there rules. Frustrating for sure! I am here and reply to every and all Posts. I am happy ta help and answer question's. I am also on Rumble where I can show everything so if need be, I can make dedicated Rumble video to show something. So my deepest apologies, but I don't want to risk all My hard work here. By showing something against the rules. I wont leave ya with a question if ya ask for clarifications!! CW
Great Video Sir ! I have been making .410 brass out of .303 for years. For resizing - I cut the top half off of an old .45 colt die. The cases go through but the tugston ring squeeses them to size.
Thanks for sharing... I just started using 444 Marlin for full brass hulls. Been using the Magtech for 12 and 20 gauge. Tried Pyrodex RS and 7-1/2 shot with great success. Also did Pyrodex RS and steel BB shot. The BB shot didnt do as well... dimpled the case on the inside and created pimples on the outside. But they were easy to resize out!
@@1791Actual I couldn't even tell you that it's really Gun related. I mean, if you had a couple of guns of the same exact model, I'd be willing to bet that someone would work and someone wouldn't. they're not not usable. They just sometimes need to be pulled out with something other than your extractor.
For those looking for an annealer pull up YT video titled $200 DIY ANNEALER. It uses an induction heater (for removing frozen nuts) in combo with a pid controller that's adjustable to .01 second. Also templac ( 550 - 700°F) is useful till your eye becomes trained for color indication.
It's always a great start to the day when I open up YT and there's a new CW video posted! You may have answered these questions and I just missed it. 1. When you're annealing the brass do you still hold it until you start feeling the heat? I know you're going by color, I'm just curious if you have to change anything because you're heating more of the case. 2. Would a similar process to loading these be used to make shot shells for other cartridges, say something like a .357 or 44?
@@Tex_I_Can Good morning! 1) Yes altho at these pressures, softening into case head isnt as big a worry. 2) Not completely understanding. But if annealing, its not as needed but wont hurt. First off pistols are lower pressure and then, being straight pressures are not exerted same.
@@cw2a Thanks. The 2nd question is really about loading shot in other cartridges. I see them on the shelf list as rat shot or snake shot and was just curious if loading them with the tissue paper, filler, cardboard, and glue would work the same as the commercial version.
I came across a video a few years a go on youtube showing fire forming 9.3 x 74 R brass for 3" 410 use. I annealed brand new brass to start. The video showed using black powder. In the video the man had great results fully forming after once fired. The video was before youtube banned showing how to load ammo so how much powder was used and all other info was given. I started out with the same amount of FF as shown in the video but my brass only expanded around the first inch or so. I increased the amount of black powder over 5 loads and the best results I got was roughly half the length 9.3 x 74R cases fire forming. It has been since before the Covid 19 shut down that I have done any reloading or shooting. I should get back on finding the right load and get my brass finished so I can stop wasting money buying factory over priced hard to find ammo.
@@tomlanore4283 Hello Tom! I have a batch of 9.3x74r brass. I annealed a d loaded and it formed 95% with one firing!! Same for my 444 loads. Its only this 303 thats needed multiple firings. BP is a option thats been mentioned a few times. As well as substitutes. I have never tried them. Yes uTube is strict. This is why this video and others is as it is. I cannot show anything I would like to.
I found with 303 that I had to aneal twice, it would open up half way or so and the second would not go farther without a second aneal then you had full cap.
Sorry to say but Hirtenberger no longer exists. It was bought by Norma in the 90s. 9,3x74R still is in Norma and RWS lineup, mainly used for break action double barrel or combined guns tailored for driven hunts.
Can you do this off a 650 mec jr for charge dumps and compressing on the loads? My dad had done old fiber board wads in his loads in the early 70’s for `12 gauge
@@kevinthomas8667 I would imagine it is possible, but not practical as I see it in my head. I would think the indexing would be the issue. I could see doing this on a MEC shotshell press. It would give even pressures.
@billm, Not knowing your Trail Boss charge, what is your advice as far as i measuring up to the bullet base when seated and multiply that charge by .70 (%) for a Start Load ? Plan on using plastic shells ( mostly Win and Fed ) vice brass. Ty ☆
have a new savage/stevens .410 came with only a Xfull screw in choke,,, any idea where to get cyi. or mod. for it ?? i think its mossberg threads on the chokes ???
@@RussellCompton-fh3gr Its either that or Benelli chokes. I have a couple folders that were Benelli chokes. eBay is a option is the Jungle store dose t have any new.
@@tripplebeards3427 it just seems they don't wanna blow out nicely. They'll do it you'll get there, but it takes a few firings. Course I could load it a little bit hotter maybe get there faster but as you're dealing with unknown, I'd rather do it a few times then over pressure.
Cw I have a question in regards to 9mm so I have the Lyman 356637 mold. And I noticed no matter what I do with the taper crimp the casting is being swaged down to .356. Now I’m not extremely upset about that because that’s the size the Lyman manual uses. What I’m curious about is if we are supposed to size 2 thousands over bore. How or is it even possible to do that with this mold ???? Between the seating depth being 1.058 and the 9mm case web I just can’t see how it would be possible to size this casting 2 thousands over .356 and not get swaging. I also took a look at my brass and the case walls are roughly .12 thou so again between the case walls the web and the seating depth I’m stumped. The finished cartridge works no leading but I think if I could get that extra .2 thou it would preform better. Sorry for the unrelated question/comment
@@Johnny-jr2lq Morning Johnny, Yes some swaging is inevitable. Why is .356 a problem? Are you finding fouling or accuracy or is it just the number? "Bigger"generally is no problem if it chambers. SMALLER is the issue. FIT is king with cast. But Ill ALWAYS favor "fat".
@@cw2a it’s a little bit of everything you mentioned. A little bit of accuracy a little bit of curiosity if i could go 2 thousand over to test and just a number. But no fouling no leading nothing of nature is going on mainly curiosity
Knowledge is power and YT works for those who do not want the masses to have knowledge, this way people will not turn against the thrall masters. Do you have any issues with large rifle primers igniting the propellant? Years ago I priced some brass made by Rocky Mountain and wow! Talk about expensive, but the shell are made individually from brass rod. 20 yeas ago I did order some 12 gauge from them not too bad price wise then. I used these for black powder loads. Don’t have any idea if Magtech makes a .410 brass case. If they do it might be a cheap alternative if you can’t obtain .303.
@@paulfredricks7460 Hello Paul!! Yes sir and they form easy too!! But some guns (mine) the rim is too small and it slips past extractor. But they do work!!
@@coldandaloof7166 Good Question!! It should work in most single stage presses. 3" might be long for some... But they did make a wack a mole 410 loader. But truthfully sizing is biggest need and a 45 Colt die can size 2.5". I had a commenter who cut the "top" off a sizer die to size 3"!! The remaining process can be done with a dowel. Also, if you have a turkey call striker. These work great too. Wish I vould show more but uTube doesn't allow it.
@@cw2a once in a while the Bertram brass company makes a run of 405 “basic” brass and since it has not been sized to any particular cartridge dimensions you might be able to use that too.
@@jimmytate7587 Good evening Jimmy!! No its not going to work properly. Its diameter is going to be too small. As a SHTF it could be made to work. But otherwise no. Thanks for watching man!! 😜❤️🩹🇺🇸
@@DrewDiaz I think it would be OK. But no I didnt. I did anneal much farther than I ever would with a CF case. But the pressures of a shot shell are sub 15k. Most all rifle rounds are +40 and still more are +50k. In them ya never want to soften the case head. So Id say 80% of the case should be about right. But its OK here to experiment as dangers are quite low as long as your following safe practices and watching for signs. Remember these loads are FAR FAR from a "flat primer" sign.
Sounds like a "mess"! Heat makes it sticky. I would "powder" them (baby powder or Cream of Wheat) immediately after using the glue. Don't need that stuff sitting in a warm chamber!
@@haroldhenderson2824 YES, any stick powder is going to be much to slow. Also yes on primers. I haven had issue with any style rifle primer. But remember in large size a pistol primer is shorter & could cause missfires.
@@horn410 Annealing is required for better/ easier fill out. Its not as bard to form out a 9.3x74r. Or a 444 Marlin. But these 303's I don't think you could do it without!
Good god...this guy is so long winded and probably one of the worst demonstration of what he did, it's aggravating. Step by step is they way you explain this stuff pal. First I do this, then I do this...just a mess of no information jumbled together. I'll have to find another channel to learn from.
Sorry my friend. Utube do's net allow construction of ammunition. I am not ABLE TO DO as you ask. NO ONE HERE is. But I completely understand the frustrations. Hope ya can find the information you desire.
@@cw2a Yeah, I totally forgot that you guys couldn't do that stuff anymore. My apologies. I was just frustrated. I forget that these policies at youtube were what inspired me to remove my videos and stop uploading. I certainly did learn that a person could make the brass 410 casings and the best brass to use. But to be honest as I thought about doing some of these reloads then thought, would these run in my auto with the brass cases? Anyway, respect your tenacity at staying with it even though youtube is making it very difficult for you to make videos. Best of luck.
@@mytexasseason6036 I also have videos on Rumble where we don't see these restrictions. But advertising in videos has seen problems too... Happy ta help if I am able! Stay salty! 👍🏼🤘🏼🙏🙏
@@mytexasseason6036 Glad you apologised. I normaly stop and watch something else when a vid bothers me. YT is a giant colostamy bag, that is overfilled.
You're an encyclopedia of all things firearms my friend. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
@@TreeTopFlier Your most welcome! 👍🏼🙏❤️🩹❤️🩹🙏👍🏼
Yep .444 marlin is my standard go to. The. 444 for me personally has been my straight walled big game cartridge..... sort of. It has been a very versatile case over the years for me. As a 444 has taken many harvest. Leaving you a empty case for 358, and 375 JDJ. Today I own neither. As for my single shot 410 I actually reload them with ffg black p propellant as my energy source 😉 😜. As for slugs there is a few hollow base conicals that I wouldn't mind trying. However because I am who I is a pillow ticking patched. 395 round ball works pretty good
Mountain man
ahhhhh..... pillow ticking and .395 round ball! gonna have to try that!!!
@@1791Actual as big bp muzzleloader guy I use experience and materials from both worlds
That is one fine canister of Red Dot. A fine and useful powder. Nice presentation.
@@lawrencehudson9939 Thank you! ❤️🩹👍🏼🙏👍🏼❤️🩹
@captainnitro4459 Its a favorite! Powder is still good too!!
Its been pink in the thirty years I have owned. PO was family friend and trap shooter. He reloaded in his garage. Powder stored there too. Mine is proper stored in small magazine climate controlled.
@@lawrencehudson9939 having moved to Europe almost 20 years ago, the country I live in is NOT firearms friendly. But if it was I would probably be using Vitavori powders, tried a few in the states and they were decent.
Keep on Rambling, great info and video
@@ol1guy994 Thank you!!
Glad it was entertaining! 🙏❤️🩹🤘🏼🤘🏼❤️🩹🙏
NOT that I don't know how to reload, just making a point that, why do a very few NOT show how to completely reload from beginning to end, and some do a FULL reload from tumbler cleaning to gluing the 'shot/load' disk in place??? I wish people would get it together and start following each other's lead one way or another instead of some saying that it's a NO-NO to show and tell, while others completely educate us on reloading from beginning to end. I understand NOT showing us how to make bombs, etc... But reloading is just an ordinary day for most folks who enjoy it. I'm here to see what I have yet not learned and tips and tricks like available shells compatible with using in my 410. I tend to stand by channels that are very educating in ALL aspects of ammunition......... BTW, I probably wouldn't go beyond using .444 Marlin because I don't need 3" bras shells that bad just to waste material blowing off a blank just to stretch a shell for reloading. And, like you said, it may take a couple 'blows' to stretch a shell..........
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 Good afternoon brother!
OK here is a overview.
All us content creators have the same rules to follow. Some dont know, other dont care. Thinknof it like a ride on the free way. We all know the speed limit and we all know we can probably get away with a lil over but if we go flat out, we will likely get caught.
Well thats kinda like uTube. I value my channel. I value bringing everyone content so I try to abide by the rules. There rules are no showing of manufacturing ammunition.
Now, do I feel there is a problem? Does my showing create a safety issues or a legalities or even moralities issues in my showing you everything in reloading? I DO NOT.
BUT UTUBE DOES, so because it, is "by there leave" I am here and I can post. I try to follow there rules. Frustrating for sure!
I am here and reply to every and all
Posts. I am happy ta help and answer question's. I am also on Rumble where I can show everything so if need be, I can make dedicated Rumble video to show something.
So my deepest apologies, but I don't want to risk all My hard work here. By showing something against the rules. I wont leave ya with a question if ya ask for clarifications!!
CW
Great Video Sir ! I have been making .410 brass out of .303 for years. For resizing - I cut the top half off of an old .45 colt die. The cases go through but the tugston ring squeeses them to size.
So far these 2.5 ish fit in a old
lyman steel die. And the 3" havent needed size far enough down. ;)
GREAT IDEA!!
Thank you for this. I did this year's ago, and I'm glad it's still around.
You're welcome! Its a fun and popular concept.
Man keep ur videos coming. So much knowledge. It's like ur channel is a cheat code haha
@@Lowballinoutdoorz 🙏❤️🩹🤘🏼🤘🏼❤️🩹🙏
Many years of experience here. A great resource for this knowledge
@@frankbrowning328 Thank you sir! ❤️🩹🙏👍🏼
Thanks for sharing... I just started using 444 Marlin for full brass hulls. Been using the Magtech for 12 and 20 gauge. Tried Pyrodex RS and 7-1/2 shot with great success. Also did Pyrodex RS and steel BB shot. The BB shot didnt do as well... dimpled the case on the inside and created pimples on the outside. But they were easy to resize out!
@@1791Actual Some of my 410's dont eject the 444. Its rim slips past extractor
@@cw2a I'm running a h&r 490 and the couple ive tried worked well. Still might have to try the others
@@1791Actual I couldn't even tell you that it's really Gun related. I mean, if you had a couple of guns of the same exact model, I'd be willing to bet that someone would work and someone wouldn't. they're not not usable. They just sometimes need to be pulled out with something other than your extractor.
Very nice CW, I keep learning!! I suspect I will as long as I listen!🤣😂
@@triggerbarPhD Thanks brother!! 💥😜👍🏼🙏🙏👍🏼😜💥
Fascinating, That's another one I figured more factory ammo would be produced. Atleast full brass 410 slug ammo.
Magtec is only one I know of and they are uncommon. But not difficult to make! Thanks James!
Great information, I have a. 410 SxS, and a bolt action 410. Need to search for cases. Thank you sir
@@Colt1927AC 😜👍🏼🤘🏼👍🏼😜
Wow very cool.. I have some 30/40 yee haw . When I think back on how many LBS. of red dot I have wasted on flash pots for my old rock band.
Babahahaha. 😝🤘🏼🔥🇺🇸😝
Great video. Bottom line if it's hard (or very expensive) to obtain let's figure out how to make it at home
@@frankbrowning328 Yes sir!
For those looking for an annealer pull up YT video titled $200 DIY ANNEALER. It uses an induction heater (for removing frozen nuts) in combo with a pid controller that's adjustable to .01 second. Also templac ( 550 - 700°F) is useful till your eye becomes trained for color indication.
😜🔥🤘🏼👍🏼👍🏼🤘🏼🔥😜
Good info here . Especially for 410 be so hard to find . Just started to find on the self again but marked way up vs what use to be.
@@jamespugh yup
It's always a great start to the day when I open up YT and there's a new CW video posted! You may have answered these questions and I just missed it.
1. When you're annealing the brass do you still hold it until you start feeling the heat? I know you're going by color, I'm just curious if you have to change anything because you're heating more of the case.
2. Would a similar process to loading these be used to make shot shells for other cartridges, say something like a .357 or 44?
@@Tex_I_Can Good morning!
1) Yes altho at these pressures, softening into case head isnt as big a worry.
2) Not completely understanding. But if annealing, its not as needed but wont hurt. First off pistols are lower pressure and then, being straight pressures are not exerted same.
@@cw2a Thanks. The 2nd question is really about loading shot in other cartridges. I see them on the shelf list as rat shot or snake shot and was just curious if loading them with the tissue paper, filler, cardboard, and glue would work the same as the commercial version.
@@Tex_I_Can Ooh then yes 100%
@@cw2a Thank you, again! I knew I didn't explain it very well.
🤩 make 10 gauge brass!
@@tripplebeards3427 OOH YEA!
@@cw2a I'm loading up a little over 6 dozen 2.5 oz turkey loads as I type!
I came across a video a few years a go on youtube showing fire forming 9.3 x 74 R brass for 3" 410 use. I annealed brand new brass to start. The video showed using black powder. In the video the man had great results fully forming after once fired. The video was before youtube banned showing how to load ammo so how much powder was used and all other info was given. I started out with the same amount of FF as shown in the video but my brass only expanded around the first inch or so. I increased the amount of black powder over 5 loads and the best results I got was roughly half the length 9.3 x 74R cases fire forming.
It has been since before the Covid 19 shut down that I have done any reloading or shooting. I should get back on finding the right load and get my brass finished so I can stop wasting money buying factory over priced hard to find ammo.
@@tomlanore4283 Hello Tom!
I have a batch of 9.3x74r brass. I annealed a d loaded and it formed 95% with one firing!! Same for my 444 loads. Its only this 303 thats needed multiple firings.
BP is a option thats been mentioned a few times. As well as substitutes. I have never tried them.
Yes uTube is strict. This is why this video and others is as it is. I cannot show anything I would like to.
Hi, I have a lot of videos about the 410 caliber, watch it.
The more you know 🙌
@@BuckeyeBallistics 👍🏼❤️🩹🤘🏼❤️🩹👍🏼
YES! perfect! He's got a tremendous amount of reloading knowledge and a great resource
I found with 303 that I had to aneal twice, it would open up half way or so and the second would not go farther without a second aneal then you had full cap.
Thats what Im finding here. I don't think I annealed enough of case first time. I have rectified that! ;)
Sorry to say but Hirtenberger no longer exists. It was bought by Norma in the 90s.
9,3x74R still is in Norma and RWS lineup, mainly used for break action double barrel or combined guns tailored for driven hunts.
@@jorupp1 Yes sir! But as you can see, its still around! Thanks for watching!
Can you do this off a 650 mec jr for charge dumps and compressing on the loads? My dad had done old fiber board wads in his loads in the early 70’s for `12 gauge
@@kevinthomas8667 I would imagine it is possible, but not practical as I see it in my head. I would think the indexing would be the issue.
I could see doing this on a MEC shotshell press. It would give even pressures.
Stop it CW! Now I’m out looking for a 410 and brass to fire form 😂😂
410 hard find here just started to see it small batch but priced over 12 or 28 ga 16ga even cheaper
@@3jeepdiscovery ooh yea!!!
Very interesting. Thanks CW
@@lens7859 😜❤️🩹🤘🏼🤘🏼❤️🩹😜
I used trail boss in factory 410 brass with a Hornady 300 grain tipped .454 bullout of my 410/45 colt H&R single shotwith good luck.
@@billm2078 I will be doing similar only with my cast. 😜🙏❤️🩹
@billm,
Not knowing your Trail Boss charge, what is your advice as far as i measuring up to the bullet base when seated and multiply that charge by .70 (%) for a Start Load ?
Plan on using plastic shells ( mostly Win and Fed ) vice brass.
Ty ☆
I started this, but only got one or two firings. This might spur me to get back at it! 😅
@@marcthomas2482 KEEP AT IT!!
Remember to ANNEAL!!
have a new savage/stevens .410 came with only a Xfull screw in choke,,, any idea where to get cyi. or mod. for it ?? i think its mossberg threads on the chokes ???
@@RussellCompton-fh3gr Its either that or Benelli chokes. I have a couple folders that were Benelli chokes. eBay is a option is the Jungle store dose t have any new.
I've never seen a pink canister of Red Dot. I guess because I'm on the West Coast, and you're on the East Coast. Like wax candles a whole lot 👍👍👍
@@walksfletcher its old and its faded.
Very good! Seems a lot of folks are interested in this subject. 410 shells are way too expensive to buy. Everyone should be reloading that one, IMHO.
🙏😜👍🏼👍🏼😜🙏
What do you use for a sizing die? Im gathering components to start making brass 410
@@tylerjohnson2833 Good morning Tyler!
I use a older steel 45 Colt Lyman die.
Again great info. 👋👋🤝🤝🤝🤝
@@JCJustice-kv2gy 🙏🙏👍🏼🙏🙏
Looks like the 303 British would be the most cost effective to play with?
@@tripplebeards3427 Yes but most problematic...
@@cw2a of course the cheapest route is never the best option 🙄
@@tripplebeards3427 it just seems they don't wanna blow out nicely. They'll do it you'll get there, but it takes a few firings. Course I could load it a little bit hotter maybe get there faster but as you're dealing with unknown, I'd rather do it a few times then over pressure.
Cw I have a question in regards to 9mm so I have the Lyman 356637 mold. And I noticed no matter what I do with the taper crimp the casting is being swaged down to .356. Now I’m not extremely upset about that because that’s the size the Lyman manual uses. What I’m curious about is if we are supposed to size 2 thousands over bore. How or is it even possible to do that with this mold ???? Between the seating depth being 1.058 and the 9mm case web I just can’t see how it would be possible to size this casting 2 thousands over .356 and not get swaging. I also took a look at my brass and the case walls are roughly .12 thou so again between the case walls the web and the seating depth I’m stumped. The finished cartridge works no leading but I think if I could get that extra .2 thou it would preform better. Sorry for the unrelated question/comment
@@Johnny-jr2lq Morning Johnny,
Yes some swaging is inevitable. Why is .356 a problem? Are you finding fouling or accuracy or is it just the number?
"Bigger"generally is no problem if it chambers. SMALLER is the issue.
FIT is king with cast. But Ill ALWAYS favor "fat".
@@cw2a it’s a little bit of everything you mentioned. A little bit of accuracy a little bit of curiosity if i could go 2 thousand over to test and just a number. But no fouling no leading nothing of nature is going on mainly curiosity
@@Johnny-jr2lq Id probably leave diameter alone and change powder or primer.
@@cw2a that’s definitely solid advice much appreciated CW
Interesting video 👍🇺🇸
Ooh just U wait feller!! 😳😜😜😳👍🏼👍🏼
How are you resizing the .410 brass after? Only way I can think of doing it is with a MEC sizing ring but maybe there are other dies available?
@@HobbiesHobo I run what are you doing them through a steel Lyman 45 coltdie!
Thought he said he wasn’t going to waffle and try and keep to the point?🇬🇧🏴
@@vincentnastri7736 I ramble with the best if them brother!! 👍🏼💥🇺🇸🇺🇸💥👍🏼
That you can't show this, says a lot about the direction this country is headed
@@Idrinklight44 💥🙏💪🏼💪🏼🙏💥
Knowledge is power and YT works for those who do not want the masses to have knowledge, this way people will not turn against the thrall masters. Do you have any issues with large rifle primers igniting the propellant? Years ago I priced some brass made by Rocky Mountain and wow! Talk about expensive, but the shell are made individually from brass rod. 20 yeas ago I did order some 12 gauge from them not too bad price wise then. I used these for black powder loads. Don’t have any idea if Magtech makes a .410 brass case. If they do it might be a cheap alternative if you can’t obtain .303.
@@Subgunman I have not. I have used many different styles WO issue.
Great info
@@RTACDaughters zThank you!
444 Marlin cases make short ~ 2 1/2” shells
@@paulfredricks7460 Hello Paul!!
Yes sir and they form easy too!! But some guns (mine) the rim is too small and it slips past extractor. But they do work!!
Why don't Lee make a .410 die set? I'd buy one for a single stage press.
@@coldandaloof7166 Good Question!! It should work in most single stage presses. 3" might be long for some...
But they did make a wack a mole 410 loader. But truthfully sizing is biggest need and a 45 Colt die can size 2.5". I had a commenter who cut the "top" off a sizer die to size 3"!!
The remaining process can be done with a dowel. Also, if you have a turkey call striker. These work great too. Wish I vould show more but uTube doesn't allow it.
Try a sizing die for 300wm at the end for a nice roll crimp.
@@garrymoore2625 nice idea! Ill try! I have to trim these square first. They are a lil wonky! 😜😜👍🏼🔥
Nice ! Did some from 444 while back 👍
Nice 👍 those are probably the simple and easiest. I'm gonna do some more myself just because I can get them there right away.
We'll see how the rims fit in this new Rossi. With luck they'll work and I can use 444.
Parrifin wax or bee's wax?
@@tacticalrabbit308 Yes. Your choice. Id use paraffin. Bees is costly.
Very interesting stuff, CW!!
Have you seen that 22lr loading kit with machined copper pills from Cutting Edge, I think it is?
Yes I have, not much interest in that rabbit hole.. But you know how that is... SQUIRREL! 🤘🏼🙏🙏😜😜
@cw2a haha 😄
I only just saw it, looked kind of interesting, but it's damn spendy! So that isn't going to fly until the price goes down.
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Or if you are lucky enough, you can use 405 Winchester which already uses a .411 diameter bullet, if you happen to find some and don’t own a 405 Rifle
Maybe, I have some loaded. Ill measure. Never considered simply cause its so rare ta find.
@@cw2a once in a while the Bertram brass company makes a run of 405 “basic” brass and since it has not been sized to any particular cartridge dimensions you might be able to use that too.
What about 45/70?
Hello John!! Unfortunately, It's too big in diameter. Both thru body and its rim.
@@cw2a thanks for the response!
always wanted to do this
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can a fireformed 30:30 case work?
@@jimmytate7587 Good evening Jimmy!! No its not going to work properly. Its diameter is going to be too small. As a SHTF it could be made to work. But otherwise no. Thanks for watching man!! 😜❤️🩹🇺🇸
Hehehe..I feel that I listened to a instructional about the proof of Einstein's theory that Energy and Mass are the same. peace dude. - Dave
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CW you may be getting a call from me lol I just saw this 😂❤
Ooh boy... 👍🏼🤘🏼❤️🩹🙏
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Mornin Don!
No annealing?
@@DrewDiaz Hello Drew, Yes Annealing is required. Probably a bit more than I did! I annealed with every Shot!
@@cw2a all the way down the case?
@@DrewDiaz I think it would be OK. But no I didnt. I did anneal much farther than I ever would with a CF case. But the pressures of a shot shell are sub 15k. Most all rifle rounds are +40 and still more are +50k. In them ya never want to soften the case head.
So Id say 80% of the case should be about right. But its OK here to experiment as dangers are quite low as long as your following safe practices and watching for signs.
Remember these loads are FAR FAR from a "flat primer" sign.
what about Hot Glue from a glue gun?
@@derekmcmaster6123 Morning Derik. Ooh good idea! Ill try it. Should be fine!! BRILLIANT!! 👍🏼🤘🏼🔥🔥🤘🏼👍🏼
Sounds like a "mess"! Heat makes it sticky. I would "powder" them (baby powder or Cream of Wheat) immediately after using the glue. Don't need that stuff sitting in a warm chamber!
Hiya, C-Dub! 🤛🏻🔫🇺🇸
@@viejo2a afternoon Walter!
Primmer ?
@@SteveandSusiesHomestead I have mixed it up. What ever I had remaining a tray. Some mag some LR.
Generally, any large rifle primer will light pistol powder. Stick powder is the "difficult one".
@@haroldhenderson2824 YES, any stick powder is going to be much to slow. Also yes on primers. I haven had issue with any style rifle primer. But remember in large size a pistol primer is shorter & could cause missfires.
ua-cam.com/video/XonIhbbOsgg/v-deo.html I've been doing this to the 410 caliber for 10 years now.
@@horn410 Awesome! Ill check thus out!! 👍🏼🇺🇸🤘🏼🙏
@@cw2a it is necessary to burn the sleeve on fire to a gray color, except for the welt
@@horn410 Annealing is required for better/ easier fill out. Its not as bard to form out a 9.3x74r. Or a 444 Marlin. But these 303's I don't think you could do it without!
@@cw2a 9.3x74r. this is the most ideal option for redoing!!!
@horn410 IT REALLY IS!! The 444 can have too small a rim for some guns. Thats why I like the 303. As some guns only have short chamber.
Good god...this guy is so long winded and probably one of the worst demonstration of what he did, it's aggravating. Step by step is they way you explain this stuff pal. First I do this, then I do this...just a mess of no information jumbled together. I'll have to find another channel to learn from.
Sorry my friend. Utube do's net allow construction of ammunition. I am not ABLE TO DO as you ask. NO ONE HERE is. But I completely understand the frustrations.
Hope ya can find the information you desire.
@@cw2a Yeah, I totally forgot that you guys couldn't do that stuff anymore. My apologies. I was just frustrated. I forget that these policies at youtube were what inspired me to remove my videos and stop uploading. I certainly did learn that a person could make the brass 410 casings and the best brass to use. But to be honest as I thought about doing some of these reloads then thought, would these run in my auto with the brass cases? Anyway, respect your tenacity at staying with it even though youtube is making it very difficult for you to make videos. Best of luck.
@@mytexasseason6036 I also have videos on Rumble where we don't see these restrictions. But advertising in videos has seen problems too... Happy ta help if I am able! Stay salty! 👍🏼🤘🏼🙏🙏
@@mytexasseason6036 Glad you apologised. I normaly stop and watch something else when a vid bothers me. YT is a giant colostamy bag, that is overfilled.
@@miketyke9451 Yeah, I was a little harsh and to one of our 2A brothers...not good. Gotta stand together in these times.