I love mine . I had it built on a rem 700 action , 23 inch Wilson stainless barrel , McMillan stock and a trigger teck trigger . I shoot the 225 accubonds or 200 grain barns ttsx . It is in my opinion the perfect North American big game cartridge .
I love mine I've got a Remington 7600 pump I lovingly call the hammer of Thor, because anything shot with it acts like they were struck by it. Devastating!
The 35 Whelen is very popular here in Louisiana and in Mississippi because we can use it as a primitive weapon in a break action, rolling block or a falling block
Love mine! It's actually a pleasure to shoot.. without the muzzle brake! Too loud with it installed.. and I didn't notice a difference in recoil either!
@@samhollan4570 trust me.. I experienced the same thing!!! It's so loud that it could cause you to anticipate the shot! I definitely will not put mine back on!
During the late 1970’s and 80’s, I used it on moose/deer/elk in Canadas northern boreal spruce/alder/ poplar forests. The bullets used were 275 grain Bitter root bonded. Killed like the hammer of Thor. Tremendous expansion penetration, like lengthwise penetration on moose, finding nice expanded mushrooms, under the skin of a hind quarter, with a frontal chest shot. None of my shots were over 100 yards in that densely forested country. I am sure the modern sophisticated bullets will do a fabulous job, at longer distances too. The 35 Whelan, did shine in angling shots. The rifle itself, was a 700 Rem with a Shilen barrel.
When I had to make the choice many years ago I went with the 338-06 but have always yearned for a 35 Whelen even though my needs are 100% net with the 338-06.
I recently converted a push feed Winchester model 70 in 30-06 to 35 Whelen, JES Reboring in Oregon re bored my action, very good work, Now I have one of a kind
I looked him up, half-hoping he was in Boring, OR instead of near Eugene. Then he could call his business "Boring Re-boring." 🤪 I'll save you the trouble 🤦♂️ and see myself out 😁
🤠 For Those Of Us That Hunt in The Back Country Where Bears Are Present, This is a Wonderful Option! My Former Co-worker Owned One and Killed Many An Elk With It! He Called It "A Thinking Man's Magnum" (Low Recoil For The Punch It Packs 🥊)! 🤔
@@finallyfriday. That made for a good laugh! Seriously 90% of the comments I see are made by teenager video war gamers all jacked up right off of playing a video war game. The last time I commented on a video on the 35 Wheelen I posted some info about the 9.3x62 Mauser I own, and a video war gamer started trolling me and the crazy thing they wanted to me to believe was the 9.3x62 Mauser was the very same as the 35 Wheelen and the idiot wanted me to believe they shoot 9.3x62 ammo from a rifle in 35 Wheelen !
I have two 35 Whelens, both Remington 700’s. One is a R700 Classic and the other started out as a R700 LSS in 30-06. Had Hill Country Rifles blueprint the action, install a Lilja barrel in 35 Whelen and pillar bed the action. Both Whelens shoot at or below 1 MOA with the right loads and they work great on Maine Whitetails. It’s become a favorite caliber of mine over the last few years.
I got rid of all my magnum rifles after I got a 35 Whelen. The Whelen is the most efficient cartridge I've ever loaded for. I use a 225 grain Sierra Gameking bullet with an average muzzle velocity of 2816 fps. That's just under 4000 foot pounds of energy at muzzle. It only takes 56.5 grains of powder to reach that velocity whereas my .338 mag. required over 70 grains of powder to match that velocity with the same weight of bullet. I would love to get my hands on a Remington 7600 in 35 Whelen.
Nice! What barrel length are you using to get those velocities? My dad had one with a 26" barrel and was throwing a 200gn Barnes X at 2950fps. He took several elk with that combo.
I'm a big big 35whelen fan ! They made one in the 742woodsmaster too,know a fellow who has one now..and it works outstanding. He wouldn't let go of it for anything. I have all break actions in it at the moment..the Cva's are great.
I have 3 3006 ruger tan safety send one to pacnor put a machtgrade barrel 24 in 1-12 muzzol brake my 225 at 2818 fps 61 gr varget i don t know how u can get that vel with 56.5 gr of powder.
In an article about .35 caliber cartridges, Craig Boddington once wrote “within 200 yards and a bit, the .35 Whelen will do everything the .338 Win Mag will do, but with a whole lot less recoil and blast.” As a huge fan of the .338 Win Mag, to me that is a strong endorsement.
The 35 Wheelen cannot deal with range as the 338-win mag can . The 35 Wheelen range of power drops off pretty fast when the power of the 338-win mag will exceed the power levels of the 35 Wheelen. The 35 Wheelen is an excellent cartridge used with in its limitations. As a user of a 338-win mag from the Pacific NW to Alaska I have killed Roosevelt Elk - black tail deer - Yukon Moose and Brown bears of 1500 pounds using a 338-win mag and many of those animals had been beyond the power range of the 35 Wheelen effective range. Some of the brown bears shot by my 338-win mag gave me real experience that the 338-win mag is a bare minimum for these Alaskan bears and some I shot up to 5 times after the client dumps as many as 9 bullets into the bears vital chest area. I went to using a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser with reloads so high in pressure the load data didn't even show powder charges that high and by checking the loads with a chronograph I was right with in commercial loads of the 375 H&H magnum
@@Lure-Benson the 338 pushes 225 grain bullets at 2800 fps, and there are loads for the Whelen that do the same. It’s not a quarter-mile cartridge (neither is the 338), but it’s not a 300 grain 45-70 load coming out of a trapdoor either.
@@jasonf.4107 You just keep playing those video war games and rushing next to these comments to write your nonsense the 35 Wheelen is some kind of long-range sniper cartridge
@@jasonf.4107 I have seen your channel name and photo all over gun video comments spouting off all video war gamers nonsense with attacking guns & ammo knowledgeable people when all you have is a video war gamers BS about guns & ammo.
I have a 35whelen in a Ruger #1. Extremely accurate. I've taken several elk with this rifle out to approximately 250 yards. None took another step. At the range I've shot to 400 yards and it really doesn't drop as much as you would think. I handload it and have chronographs it several times and it's pushing a 250 gr bullet at a little more than 2600 fps. Excellent cartridge.
Built a custom .35 Whelen on a Pre-64 action with a Douglas Barrel years ago. Life happened and I had to let it get away. About two years ago I was surfing GB and found a Pre-64 that looked in wonderful condition BUT it had been re-barreled to .270 Win. OK, collector value is now ZERO so I bought it for less than I could have bought a Model 70 action. The rifle arrived and is truly an enigma: other than having had an after-market barrel stuck on it, it was in nearly MINT condition. The checkering was still sharp! Nothing to lose here so I sent it off and it came back bored and rifled for .35 Whelen. Makes me happy. Now I have a trio of Pre-64 Model 70s; .25/06, .300 H&H, and .35 Whelen.... OOOOPS.... forgot abut the .375 H&H out in the safe. I have no need for any additional hunting rifles.
I was glad to see the 358 norma in their. Love the whelen it's a great woods round for deer on up plus can handle some longer ranges. It should definitely be more popular.
I’ve have recently returned from Africa. We hunted buffalo and eland kudu. The 35 whelen performed far better then I was lead to believe. The 35 whelen does recoil. But no more than a 30.06 with a 220 grain bullet. It’s an excellent performer. It’s better than most
Thanks for the great clip, really enjoy the channel. I just purchased this exact rifle from Lipsey’s. I’ve been waiting for a 35 Whelen in this configuration for many years. I have it set up with a NECG peep sight, & shoots great….My new favorite bolt action. Shoots hornady 200gr superformance in about 1.5” or less @100 ( when i do my part) & Barnes 180 ttsx @ just a hair more. @ 50yards its just one ragged hole. The Hornady factory load is averaging 3016 FPS! …. hunting season can’t come fast enough.
I absolutely love the 35 calibers! I used to have a 350 Remington Mag.. and regrettably sold it! My current 35's are the 35 Whelen.. the 358 Winchester.. the 350 Legend.. and a 357 mag rifle. None of them hurt the shoulder.. and are shooting moa with their respective loads. That's a beautiful rifle Ron.. I almost picked one up! The price of $1,500 didn't sound bad considering it's their safari rifle. That being said.. those who have given the 35's a shot.. fell in love 😊 Thanks for sharing this brother
If you would like to have the AR 10 in 358 win or wildcat 358 WSM I build and sell AR 10 uppers and these two I do chamber in AR 10 uppers. I personally hunt with my AR 10 in 375-300 WSM that is a match in power of the 375 H&H magnums
A couple of years ago my friend was sighting in his friend's .35 Whelen and invited me to come along. He let me try a few shots. Nice rifle, but I didn't care for the recoil, and it wasn't really necessary for hunting in Kentucky. Plus, the cartridges are expensive and not as readily available as say a 30-06, 30-30, or even a .243 win. (which is all I really need for deer in Kentucky) Great video guys.
@Airon79 Yes, elk and black bear. But I don't hunt them, and they can be easily taken with a 30-06. We don't have the long-distance shots here like they have out west.
Probably my most favorite chambering , the 35 whelen. I have a custom bolt action built on a Remington 700 action , bartlein barrel, timney trigger , and a HS precision stock. Shoots 180 Barnes at 2950fps, and groups 1/2” It such a hard hitter , I named it Thunder .. my hunting party now has a tradition when we go out west hunting , as I am taking it out of the gun case, we play Thunder Struck… 😂😂 most of my hunting party has shot something with this rifle . It has a trijicon 2.5 x10x 56. It’s all spray painted up to whatever terrain I will be hunting . It’s a work horse.. love the whelen!
I have an 1885 Highwall in 30-06 that I sent to JES Rebore to turn into a 35 Whelen with Power Pro Varmint and 220 grain Hammer Hunter, I get 2940 FPS. Very accurate and effective on game.
Hey Guys, I love the 35 Whelen. My first one was a 98 Mauser, my current one is a Savage 110 LH. It is my elk rifle. I use a 225 grn Nosler Partition. The 225's in my opinion offer me the flattest trajectory with adequate weight. I have a self-imposed limit of 300 yards for this combination. I did one time take an elk at 368 yards. It has never let me down in the 8 elk that I have taken with it. If I ever get to take my dream hunt to Alaska, this will be the rifle that I take with me. Grand Ol Cartridge!
Not a firearm guy here. I own them and use them but don't pay much attention to specs and stats. Always enjoy learning a bit more about a caliber and some of the history and comparisms with all of them. cheers guy!!
I have a 35 Whelen in the Rem 700 BDL and have used it to take Newfoundland Moose and 3 Quebec Caribou plus a couple Whitetails. Always performed well.
I rented a house from in my late 20's from a farmer that hunted religiously with a Remington Autoloader of some type one of them in 350 Remington. He filled his freezer every year. He was in his late 70's when I was in my mid to late 20's. I am 50 now. I am sure his old cmbo is still taking game today for sure even though he long since passed on!
Finally got my 7600 carbine issues figured out and shooting. It never shot groups worth a darn. The barrel came loose 3 times during range sessions. It would never shoot better than 1.5” groups. I applied loc tite to my pump slide tube threads and uncle mikes pump swivel hold down screw becuase it kept coming loose as well while shooting. I also saw the pump was touching the barrel on one side with the slide play. I sanded the pump channel and also made sure to twist the pump in the opposite direction when tightening the uncle Mikes swivel in place. It has plenty of clearance on both sides between the pump and barrel now. I have also bent the slide bars out on my other 7600’s and it will eliminate most of the side to side pump slop. Didn’t have to do it on the whelen. I let the loc tite dry for 5 days and took it to the range to try my ladder tests. Since the barrel came loose I wanted to re check zero but didn’t have any extra loads laying around. I grabbed the first powder I saw in front of me that would work with 180 grain Hot cores …the most .358’s projectiles I had laying around I could afford to waste sighting in. I just loaded a starting load so I wouldn’t waste powder. Loaded up a half dozen. Got to the range to check zero at 25 yards. Good to go. Then tried three at 100 yards. They all touched at .4”! I zeroed the gun with the last two shots that touched an inch high above the bullseye. It is probably going only 2500 fps with the starting load and 18.5” barrel vs the 2650 fps 24” barrel advertised load data. Figured it’s closer to a 358 Winchester velocity. I’ll run with it this season and try for some loads that are 300/400 fps faster next year. The Hornady super perfomance factory ammo averaged 1.5" groups before i floated the barrel and loc tited. I will have to get a box some day and re test. I also slugged my bore at .358". Most .358" jacketed projectiles i have meaured are .357" so i would assume thats also part of the accuracy problem. I have the same barnes that measure .357". Also 200 and 250 grain hormady at .357" and norma at .3565". All say .358" on the box. My Hot cores arw .358"/.3585" on average thar i group good with. Imo its like throwing a hot dog down a hallway with underized projectiles. Did you slug your barrel and measure you projectiles? I had over sized 180 graim speers a few years ago that crimpled my brass trying to seat them. They were .3595 to .363". Speer confimed they were our of spec and replaced them.
I love mine. MRC X3 left hand. Worked up a 225 g TSX load and haven’t looked back. The effect on a gong at 200 yards compared to my 30-06 is surprising.
35 Whelan is the bomb. Love mine built on a 98 Mauser. Back in the 80’s when a ton of military Mauser came in, I worked for a large sporting goods company. I cherry picked a dozen or so, and have made several nice custom rifles.
I built my 35 Whelen on a VZ24 Mauser action back in 1997 with a beautiful piece of walnut tried to copy the look of a classic African safari rifle . I have taken many animals with this rifle using the 180 Barnes TTSX ammo love the 35 Whelen.
I love my Whelen. It is a CVA Apex, and it shoots sub moa with Barnes Vortx TTSX 180 grain factory ammo. In LA and MS they are very popular for deer because they qualify for "primitive" season. Meat loss is surprisingly low, much less than with my 280 Rem
Single shot 35 whelen is very popular in Mississippi primitive weapon season. I have a TC Encore in 35 whelen that shoots 250gr Sierra Bullets 3/4" with handloads.
I too am a big fan of the 35 Whelen (actually I think all of the U.S. .358 cartridges are unappreciated and underused), therefor watching all the videos going around about the 35 Whelen is a common pastime. So, thanks for this one. But what makes this video so special, and what is the source of this letter, relates to the rifle you used. It's just what I've been looking for and had essentially given up hoping to find. The iron sights, the barrel band for the rifle sling, the rugged wrap-around front sight base, and most of all, it's got true controlled-round feed! All the features that give a rifle that "classic" look, and a dependable action (though many will debate that last fact). Anyway, I'm beating the bushes trying to find one, and thanking you for your, perhaps, unintended heads-up. Thank again.
Hey, Ron. I know you're a fan of Hammer Bullets. I am too. If you want 35 Whelen to be an absolute hammer (no pun intended) for big game, here's one for you... - 255 grain Hammer HHT copper bullet (G7 BC of .271) - Sectional density: .284 - Muzzle velocity: 2,750 fps (as per Hammer's own load data using 24" barrel) - Muzzle energy: 4,283 ft-lbs. - Maintains 4,000 ft-lbs. out to 55 yds. - Energy at 100yds.: 3,783 ft-lbs. - Energy at 400yds.: 2,550 ft-lbs. @ 2,122 fps - 400yd. drop (200yd. zero): -22.3 inches - 400yd. wind drift (10 mph): 10.7 inches All numbers were calculated using the ShootersCalculator ballistics calculator with the standard criteria of sea level elevation, 59 fahrenheit, 29.92 barometric pressure, and and 50% relative humidity. The muzzle velocity used is at max velocity (again, as per Hammer's load data), but that goes to show what it's capable of. If I lived in Alaska (or coastal British Columbia here in Canada), I'd choose 35 Whelen over any of the magnums. The numbers speak for themself, and it all comes in a cartridge that kicks much less than other cartridges that produce 4,200+ ft-lbs. of muzzle energy. Not to mention it uses a whole lot less powder doing so. The 35 Whelen would be my go-to cartridge if I lived out west, but for the eastern woodlands where I am (deer, black bear, moose), it's way more gun than I need. Regardless, it's an excellent and highly capable cartridge.
I have a 358 I built on a 8x57 case, blown out on the shoulder. Can run it in an intermediate length Mauser action, and it will absolutely do anything the Whelen Wil do. I also have a 35 Brown-Whelen and a 358 Norma Mag.
The 35 Remington is an excellent cartridge as well and chambered in the modern Marlin as well as the older Remingtons along with the Thompson/Center Contender. I have seen "plain ole" Rem, Fed and Win ammo in the $80- $100.00 range as recently as 6 months ago. (I live in Georgia) It's a little better now but you likely will find ammo at a show or a warehouse type store, in my case, Adventure Outdoors in suburban Atlanta. WHAT A FRICKIN' SHAME. PS.. I gave away my Lee Classic Loader in 35 Rem years after parting with the rifle. I sure wish I had both back right now. I was young and stupid at the time. Barely 20 years old. Anyway, The Whelen is obviously a fine cartridge but since I have a Tikka chambered in 338 Winchester Magnum, the Whelen doesn't cover any bases for me. But CHEERS to the Whelen guys.❤
I always wanted a 350 Rem Magnum in a Model 600 but they were discontinued by the time I was old enough to purchase one. Years later, I passed a 6.5 Rem Magnum, which I regret to this day. But, by that time , the 280 Rem in a Winchester 70 Featherweight was my fav rifle.
I have a Ruger African in 6.5 Swede; it has in my opinion beautiful bolt gun architecture. I also have a Winchester Model 94 (Big Bore) in .375 Winchester. I have had it since it was new, and I can remember what year that was. It is a good fast handling rifle in a light-medium caliber; and not too much recoil for all that drop in the stock. Both of these calibers sing nicely when hand loaded specifically for my needs. Always liked the idea of the .35 Whelen, but I don’t know if I would get much chance to use it.
Ruger didn’t make any of those RCM cartridges, they told hornady what they wanted and let them figure it out. That’s actually where the powder research that became the superformance line came from and lead them down the line of success they have had since following a similar pattern with the creedmore and prc lines. Hornady podcast has several videos covering the history of that era, interesting listen for those interested.
I shoot a .35 Whelen, with 200 gn bullets the recoil isn't bad, not pleasant, but tolerable. When I start loading 250 gn bullets you know you're shooting something! That said, I bought a .308 Win last year because it has similar bullet drop with lighter bullets and less recoil to practice with.
The 358 norma mag is a total hammer. Falls in the same lenght as the 338wm, 30-06 based off the 375h&h case. Started out as ammo only, as well as the 308 norma. The 308 norma has a longer neck than the 300wm for better use of high bc bullets. Unfortunately almost obsolete....
You fellas are having entirely too much fun. That stock is very nice, because that recoil is straight back and little to no jumping. Nice rifle and video 👍 I didn't catch the barrel length.
71+ year old FUD here. I had the same question about why barely any mention about the 358 Winchester, so I made a second long post with information about that. I load for 35 Whelen, 358 Winchester and 35 Remington. The 356 Winchester never equaled the 358 Winchester. It was kinda like comparing 308 Winchester to 30-06. I almost got a 356 in the 94XTR Big Bore once just because I like some lever guns and the 35’s but couldn’t swing the deal.😢 Maybe I’ll try again some day before I get totally too old. Right now the next thing on my bucket want list is a Winchester Model 71 in 348 Winchester, the only cartridge it was ever made in. It equals or exceeds the 358 Winchester. Happy hunting!😊
@@davewinter2688 Thank you for your answer ! I am a 70 year old Canadian and totally agree with you. I always regretted not geting that 94 big bore in .375.
I love the caliber because brass is easy to make out of the 30-06 family of cases by just running them through my whelen die. My 35 rems are hard to come by casing wise.
In NW Oregon the strangest thing after ammo started again showing up it was the odd cartridge we hardly ever see started showing up and now ever store now has stacks of 35 Rem ammo and the Brass for reloader is also easy to get
@@Lure-Benson I haven’t looked for brass in a while, but I figured it was still impossible to find like always. They only seem to do special runs on them every 2 to 3 years and then everybody cries
@@tripplebeards3427 I made a check for you by a google search for 35 Rem brass and found absolutely no shortage of 35 Rem brass ready to ship. It is now how much do you want?
I've successfully hunted big game with the 357 max, 35 rem, 348 win, 358 win, 350 rem mag and 35 whelen. If I really wanted to reach out and tag something, I bet the 358 shooting times Alaskan would do wonders. The 35 cal is an amazing hunting caliber, too bad most people ignore it.
That is a sweet rifle, indeed! Bravo! The classic Whelen is still shootable with commercially available ammunition. I have seen it on sale at BassPro and at their subsidiary Cabelas. And the price is not much higher than 30-06 either.
71+ year old FUD here. Addenda to my first long sermon. I don’t know why it posted twice. Old age and technically inept? The video was educational and entertaining especially for younger shooters who never heard of the Whelen. I forgot to mention that I also shoot a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. Hornady LeverEvolution with the 200 grain FTX bullet has made the 35 Remington a legitimate 200+ yard cartridge especially with scope. My other 35 Is the 358 Winchester that Ron mentioned briefly. Both my 358 Winchester and 35 Whelen are custom jobs built around ‘98 Mauser actions. The 358 Winchester compared to the 35 Whelen is just like comparing 308 Winchester to 30-06 Springfield. Less powder, less power. Best with the 200 grain bullet at about 2500 fps or maybe a little more with some hand loads. If you sight it dead on at about 225 yards or 3 to 3.5 inches high at 100 you’re going to be good for a point blank hold from 250 to 275 yards. Again with a modern reticle or dial it in scope you can extend the 358 maximum effective hunting range to past 300 yards but don’t push it! If you want to shoot the bigger, heavier bullets faster and farther you need to step up to the Whelen. As Joseph pointed out, the Whelen is more versatile but if you if you keep the range close the 358 Winchester will do just as well as the Whelen. You don’t need to confine the 358 Winchester to short actions. With the ‘98 Mauser length actions you can seat the longer, heavier bullets farther out to take full advantage of the limited case capacity. I think 225 grain is the maximum for the 358 Winchester. All hail the 35’s! Again, happy hunting boys and girls!😊
The '03 and '06 cartridge case capacity has always been so perfect for building great cartridges. Modern powders have only made this better. You can get so close to the milder magnums that it actually reduces the "need" for a magnum cartridge case for most of us.
A couple of Southern states have put it in the primitive weapons season in a single shot rifle. Basically it has to be a single shot rifle and 35 caliber and larger.
I have a 9.3 x 57mm in a husqvarna from 1943 that I love. I use to had a 9.3 x 62mm from 1950’s from Stiga factory that fell apart! I hunt moose with but I would love to try the 35 whelen I believe that it would be fairly similar to my 9.3 x 57mm and it has a relatively mild recoil! Love your shows!
Ron, When you said at 12:00 o clock I smiled. I then cringed when the dud occurred He ejected the cartridge without waiting . Ever heard of a cook-off? The 35 Whelen is a beast. I have a CVA Scout single shot. I hope Thompson Center offers a barrel in 35 Whelen for my Pro Hunter when the All American Company returns.
@clintonlayne9253 Different phenomena. A cook-off is a spontaneous ignition caused by long strings of shots fired heating the chamber to the extent that a chambered round will absorb enough heat to ignite. Typically sequentially, as long as fresh rounds are available. This is why most dedicated machineguns (M60, PKM, etc.) fire from an open bolt, preventing a round sitting in the chamber. A hangfire occurs when a chambered round has its primer struck without immediately igniting the cartridge. The priming compound (rarely the propellant) fizzles, sometimes firing the round a few seconds late. Those that fail to ignite altogether are known as misfires.
The 35 whelen has a huge following here in central iowa. It just became a cartridge we could use in the last couple of years. Sooo much better than slugs. I've built 5 35's in 2 years for people in the area. Everyone loves them. I shoot 200 grain hammers at 3000 fps. Simply amazing out to 400 yds. I'm going to bring it to elk camp instead of my 7 rem mag next time...or my new 280ai. Thanks to Joseph...I have a new love...in rifles. Lol
I have always wanted to build a 35 Whelen. It is truly an under rated cartridge for sure. Like I am always telling people now that we can easilya nd cheaply range our game and have affordable scopes that are easy to dial no need to chase after flat shooting cartridges! The best of the past is twice as a good the second time round! We have better brass, powder and bullet selection than ever. Time to revisit all the old cartridges and not just the speed demons of the past! I have always made due with either a 300WM or 30-06 loaded with 180gr-220gr bullets. Hard to argue though that the 35 Whelen is super effeciecent, deadly and practical. The fact that it can achieve such velocity 200+ greater with 220gr-250gr bullets with less or the same powder as the 30-06 with 180gr. bullets is amazing sweet spot. Sectional density and ballistic coefecient is not the end all and be all in the world of hunting. It does not hurt if you can have it all but sometimes it just does ot seem to matter much. Look at the 400gr. 500gr. hard cast loads on bear from a 45-70 on paper not that impressive on bear very impressive!
It’s been over 10 years ago, but I wanted to buy a 35 wheeling and was hunting for one and never found it. However, I came across and settled on at 350 Remington Magnum. It was chambered in a Remington model 673. Beautiful righthowever, it is crazy hard to find brass for that. Ammunition on the shelf is nonexistent.
You should get one. Or a 9.3x62. I have and like the Whelen, but if I were starting from scratch, I'd go with the 9.3×62. Look into John Barsness's load data for the 9.3 using R-15. It comes really close to the 375 H&H with top loads.
The Hawkeye rifle looked beautiful. Such a classic. A very useful cartridge for bigger game but not much point when there are plenty of effective, more available and cheaper 30 cals around. Seems like another excuse for another rifle in the safe. As for the recoil in the 358 Norma Mag and UMT, you can stick that where the sun doesn't shine.
Well if I was limited to what I can buy ammo wise at my local Walmart or what I can purchase their I would limited for sure. Lucky for me I do not let availablility of ammo at Walmart and the 1 other store that sells ammo in my town of 20,000 limit what I own. You can mail order ammo or load your own. 30-06 ammo is not cheap today no ammo is cheap today. The only affordable ammo is bulk 5,56 NATO, 6.5 Creedmoor, maybe 308 Win and 22LR.
35 Whelen is the most underrated hunting cartridge ever made. Keeps you honest with 400 yard shots and damn effective within that range.
Facts 100 !
I love mine . I had it built on a rem 700 action , 23 inch Wilson stainless barrel , McMillan stock and a trigger teck trigger . I shoot the 225 accubonds or 200 grain barns ttsx . It is in my opinion the perfect North American big game cartridge .
I love mine I've got a Remington 7600 pump I lovingly call the hammer of Thor, because anything shot with it acts like they were struck by it. Devastating!
Agree I been waiting one for yrs
No that title belong to 358 norma mag
The 35 Whelen is very popular here in Louisiana and in Mississippi because we can use it as a primitive weapon in a break action, rolling block or a falling block
The fact that cva makes the scout in it for a budget option makes my day.
Love mine!
It's actually a pleasure to shoot.. without the muzzle brake! Too loud with it installed.. and I didn't notice a difference in recoil either!
They are in a word Awesome!
@@blackie1of4I had one and shot it With the brake on and my ears rang!…that muzzle brake came off RIGHT AFTER within 5minutes!
@@samhollan4570 trust me.. I experienced the same thing!!!
It's so loud that it could cause you to anticipate the shot!
I definitely will not put mine back on!
I've owned a 35 Remington for 50 years, never overlook the 35's, still capable today.
I love my 35 whelens. Been able to find some great loads in the handloadong world. Love to see videos of others enjoying the same caliber
During the late 1970’s and 80’s, I used it on moose/deer/elk in Canadas northern boreal spruce/alder/ poplar forests.
The bullets used were 275 grain Bitter root bonded.
Killed like the hammer of Thor. Tremendous expansion penetration, like lengthwise penetration on moose, finding nice expanded mushrooms, under the skin of a hind quarter, with a frontal chest shot. None of my shots were over 100 yards in that densely forested country. I am sure the modern sophisticated bullets will do a fabulous job, at longer distances too. The 35 Whelan, did shine in angling shots. The rifle itself, was a 700 Rem with a Shilen barrel.
When I had to make the choice many years ago I went with the 338-06 but have always yearned for a 35 Whelen even though my needs are 100% net with the 338-06.
That's another great cartridge!
I have not shot one.. but realize it's potential! It should be more popular.. same with the 338 Federal!
@@TR.Actual always thought if I was building one bigger than 30, those two were the ones I would pick from.
Check out the 9.3x62 - it reined supreme in Africa, taking everything from plains game to elephant, before the 375HH was developed!! 👍
I recently converted a push feed Winchester model 70 in 30-06 to 35 Whelen, JES Reboring in Oregon re bored my action, very good work, Now I have one of a kind
I looked him up, half-hoping he was in Boring, OR instead of near Eugene. Then he could call his business "Boring Re-boring." 🤪
I'll save you the trouble 🤦♂️ and see myself out 😁
@@anthonykaiser974 lol
You mean re-bored the barrel not the action?
@@anthonykaiser974 After a fire they re-built the old Deli in New Delhi . It's now the New New Delhi Deli ... right behind ya .
You folks must work for the governments Department of Redundancy Department! Have a great night all !
🤠 For Those Of Us That Hunt in The Back Country Where Bears Are Present, This is a Wonderful Option! My Former Co-worker Owned One and Killed Many An Elk With It! He Called It "A Thinking Man's Magnum" (Low Recoil For The Punch It Packs 🥊)! 🤔
If bear, elk, and moose density animals are on the menu, .35 Whelen makes a lot of sense. It is a hunters cartridge to be sure.
Yeah, Seal team six sniper wannabees that use game animals to fill in for imaginary Isis terrorists won't go for it but hunters love it.
@@finallyfriday. You mean the 338 lapua hunters 😂 . Yeah no shit
@@finallyfriday. That made for a good laugh!
Seriously 90% of the comments I see are made by teenager video war gamers all jacked up right off of playing a video war game.
The last time I commented on a video on the 35 Wheelen I posted some info about the 9.3x62 Mauser I own, and a video war gamer started trolling me and the crazy thing they wanted to me to believe was the 9.3x62 Mauser was the very same as the 35 Wheelen and the idiot wanted me to believe they shoot 9.3x62 ammo from a rifle in 35 Wheelen !
I have two 35 Whelens, both Remington 700’s. One is a R700 Classic and the other started out as a R700 LSS in 30-06. Had Hill Country Rifles blueprint the action, install a Lilja barrel in 35 Whelen and pillar bed the action. Both Whelens shoot at or below 1 MOA with the right loads and they work great on Maine Whitetails. It’s become a favorite caliber of mine over the last few years.
I got rid of all my magnum rifles after I got a 35 Whelen. The Whelen is the most efficient cartridge I've ever loaded for. I use a 225 grain Sierra Gameking bullet with an average muzzle velocity of 2816 fps. That's just under 4000 foot pounds of energy at muzzle. It only takes 56.5 grains of powder to reach that velocity whereas my .338 mag. required over 70 grains of powder to match that velocity with the same weight of bullet. I would love to get my hands on a Remington 7600 in 35 Whelen.
What powder do you like with the Whelen? I’m considering building one myself.
Nice! What barrel length are you using to get those velocities? My dad had one with a 26" barrel and was throwing a 200gn Barnes X at 2950fps. He took several elk with that combo.
I'm a big big 35whelen fan ! They made one in the 742woodsmaster too,know a fellow who has one now..and it works outstanding. He wouldn't let go of it for anything. I have all break actions in it at the moment..the Cva's are great.
I have 3 3006 ruger tan safety send one to pacnor put a machtgrade barrel 24 in 1-12 muzzol brake my 225 at 2818 fps 61 gr varget i don t know how u can get that vel with 56.5 gr of powder.
I had a Remington 7600 in .35 shouldn't have sold but I really wanted a blaser r8 and had to sacrifice a few rifles lol
In an article about .35 caliber cartridges, Craig Boddington once wrote “within 200 yards and a bit, the .35 Whelen will do everything the .338 Win Mag will do, but with a whole lot less recoil and blast.” As a huge fan of the .338 Win Mag, to me that is a strong endorsement.
The 35 Wheelen cannot deal with range as the 338-win mag can .
The 35 Wheelen range of power drops off pretty fast when the power of the 338-win mag will exceed the power levels of the 35 Wheelen.
The 35 Wheelen is an excellent cartridge used with in its limitations.
As a user of a 338-win mag from the Pacific NW to Alaska I have killed Roosevelt Elk - black tail deer - Yukon Moose and Brown bears of 1500 pounds using a 338-win mag and many of those animals had been beyond the power range of the 35 Wheelen effective range.
Some of the brown bears shot by my 338-win mag gave me real experience that the 338-win mag is a bare minimum for these Alaskan bears and some I shot up to 5 times after the client dumps as many as 9 bullets into the bears vital chest area.
I went to using a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser with reloads so high in pressure the load data didn't even show powder charges that high and by checking the loads with a chronograph I was right with in commercial loads of the 375 H&H magnum
@@Lure-Benson the 338 pushes 225 grain bullets at 2800 fps, and there are loads for the Whelen that do the same. It’s not a quarter-mile cartridge (neither is the 338), but it’s not a 300 grain 45-70 load coming out of a trapdoor either.
@@jasonf.4107 You just keep playing those video war games and rushing next to these comments to write your nonsense the 35 Wheelen is some kind of long-range sniper cartridge
@@Lure-Benson NOT AT ALL what I said. But you just keep pretending you’re a more knowledgeable shooter/hunter than everyone else.
@@jasonf.4107 I have seen your channel name and photo all over gun video comments spouting off all video war gamers nonsense with attacking guns & ammo knowledgeable people when all you have is a video war gamers BS about guns & ammo.
I have a 35whelen in a Ruger #1. Extremely accurate. I've taken several elk with this rifle out to approximately 250 yards. None took another step. At the range I've shot to 400 yards and it really doesn't drop as much as you would think. I handload it and have chronographs it several times and it's pushing a 250 gr bullet at a little more than 2600 fps. Excellent cartridge.
Built a custom .35 Whelen on a Pre-64 action with a Douglas Barrel years ago. Life happened and I had to let it get away. About two years ago I was surfing GB and found a Pre-64 that looked in wonderful condition BUT it had been re-barreled to .270 Win. OK, collector value is now ZERO so I bought it for less than I could have bought a Model 70 action. The rifle arrived and is truly an enigma: other than having had an after-market barrel stuck on it, it was in nearly MINT condition. The checkering was still sharp! Nothing to lose here so I sent it off and it came back bored and rifled for .35 Whelen. Makes me happy. Now I have a trio of Pre-64 Model 70s; .25/06, .300 H&H, and .35 Whelen.... OOOOPS.... forgot abut the .375 H&H out in the safe. I have no need for any additional hunting rifles.
I was glad to see the 358 norma in their. Love the whelen it's a great woods round for deer on up plus can handle some longer ranges. It should definitely be more popular.
I've wanted a rifled like this for years
The .35 cal in any American cal is long forgotten. Much more than should be forgotten.
I’ve have recently returned from Africa. We hunted buffalo and eland kudu. The 35 whelen performed far better then I was lead to believe. The 35 whelen does recoil. But no more than a 30.06 with a 220 grain bullet. It’s an excellent performer. It’s better than most
Love my Whelen. The perfect timber elk cartridge.
Thanks for the great clip, really enjoy the channel. I just purchased this exact rifle from Lipsey’s. I’ve been waiting for a 35 Whelen in this configuration for many years. I have it set up with a NECG peep sight, & shoots great….My new favorite bolt action. Shoots hornady 200gr superformance in about 1.5” or less @100 ( when i do my part) & Barnes 180 ttsx @ just a hair more. @ 50yards its just one ragged hole. The Hornady factory load is averaging 3016 FPS! …. hunting season can’t come fast enough.
I lucked into a Ruger No 1 Stainless and walmut made in 2006.....one of 248 made......love that rifle
Have a 1917 Enfield 35 whelen and it is great!
I'm always one rifle away from happy. The 35 Whelen is on my radar.
Me 2 , well said
Popular in Australia for sambar since you are lucky to see one at more than 150 to 200 yards
I absolutely love the 35 calibers!
I used to have a 350 Remington Mag.. and regrettably sold it!
My current 35's are the 35 Whelen.. the 358 Winchester.. the 350 Legend.. and a 357 mag rifle. None of them hurt the shoulder.. and are shooting moa with their respective loads.
That's a beautiful rifle Ron.. I almost picked one up! The price of $1,500 didn't sound bad considering it's their safari rifle.
That being said.. those who have given the 35's a shot.. fell in love 😊
Thanks for sharing this brother
If you would like to have the AR 10 in 358 win or wildcat 358 WSM I build and sell AR 10 uppers and these two I do chamber in AR 10 uppers.
I personally hunt with my AR 10 in 375-300 WSM that is a match in power of the 375 H&H magnums
@@Lure-Benson awesome.. I definitely would like to get an AR 10.. the 358 Winchester would be perfect!
What's your website?
Love the 35 Whelen ❤
Fun to see a nice 35 that is not too ecpensive to load/
Now you’re talking dirty! I bought a limited run 7600 carbine in 35 whelen a few years back. It’s a beast.
The short is yes. The long answer is heck yes it The precipice of efficiency. No bias here 😅
358 Norma Mag.
Great show thanks Ron and Joe
Love my 35!
Just bought a rifle chambered in whelen can't wait to get the call from my ffl
I've been a 35W fan for the last 35 years and have owned 3 of them. I still own one in a 700 CDL and will, never get rid of this one.
A couple of years ago my friend was sighting in his friend's .35 Whelen and invited me to come along. He let me try a few shots. Nice rifle, but I didn't care for the recoil, and it wasn't really necessary for hunting in Kentucky. Plus, the cartridges are expensive and not as readily available as say a 30-06, 30-30, or even a .243 win. (which is all I really need for deer in Kentucky)
Great video guys.
06- is easily necked up...
Do ya'll have any big game in Kentucky ?
@Airon79
Yes, elk and black bear. But I don't hunt them, and they can be easily taken with a 30-06. We don't have the long-distance shots here like they have out west.
Probably my most favorite chambering , the 35 whelen.
I have a custom bolt action built on a Remington 700 action , bartlein barrel, timney trigger , and a HS precision stock. Shoots 180 Barnes at 2950fps, and groups 1/2”
It such a hard hitter , I named it Thunder .. my hunting party now has a tradition when we go out west hunting , as I am taking it out of the gun case, we play Thunder Struck… 😂😂 most of my hunting party has shot something with this rifle .
It has a trijicon 2.5 x10x 56. It’s all spray painted up to whatever terrain I will be hunting . It’s a work horse.. love the whelen!
This is one of my go to 💯 percent USA hunting rifles.....hits WAY above its weight class.
Best comedy duo on UA-cam but I still tune in lol, you guys are the best.
I have a sporterized Springfield A3 03 chambered in a 35 Whelen. Probably my favorite rifle.
love my 700 cdl in 35 whelen,shooting nosler ammo with 225 grain partition ay 2700 fps.
I have an 1885 Highwall in 30-06 that I sent to JES Rebore to turn into a 35 Whelen with Power Pro Varmint and 220 grain Hammer Hunter, I get 2940 FPS. Very accurate and effective on game.
Been hunting with the 35 whelin cva scout for years I love it
Excellent cartridge for a reloader for sure! Great conversation guys 😁
I have a 35 whelen in a Ruger m77 and I love that gun
Got mine today! Can’t wait to try this one out! 😊
Hey Guys, I love the 35 Whelen. My first one was a 98 Mauser, my current one is a Savage 110 LH. It is my elk rifle. I use a 225 grn Nosler Partition. The 225's in my opinion offer me the flattest trajectory with adequate weight. I have a self-imposed limit of 300 yards for this combination. I did one time take an elk at 368 yards. It has never let me down in the 8 elk that I have taken with it. If I ever get to take my dream hunt to Alaska, this will be the rifle that I take with me. Grand Ol Cartridge!
Not a firearm guy here. I own them and use them but don't pay much attention to specs and stats. Always enjoy learning a bit more about a caliber and some of the history and comparisms with all of them.
cheers guy!!
Got one in a Rem 700...factory rifle with a beautiful stock. So glad I purchased it! Good factory loads , as mentioned, are available as well!
I have a 35 Whelen in the Rem 700 BDL and have used it to take Newfoundland Moose and 3 Quebec Caribou plus a couple Whitetails. Always performed well.
35 Whelen has become very popular in MS as a single shot for primitive weapon season. They fly off the shelf.
I rented a house from in my late 20's from a farmer that hunted religiously with a Remington Autoloader of some type one of them in 350 Remington. He filled his freezer every year. He was in his late 70's when I was in my mid to late 20's. I am 50 now. I am sure his old cmbo is still taking game today for sure even though he long since passed on!
Been my pick for years now .living in bc canada deer to coastal grizzly .perfect caibre imo
Great video! So easy to reload! 06 brass is so easy to find!
Finally got my 7600 carbine issues figured out and shooting. It never shot groups worth a darn. The barrel came loose 3 times during range sessions. It would never shoot better than 1.5” groups. I applied loc tite to my pump slide tube threads and uncle mikes pump swivel hold down screw becuase it kept coming loose as well while shooting. I also saw the pump was touching the barrel on one side with the slide play. I sanded the pump channel and also made sure to twist the pump in the opposite direction when tightening the uncle Mikes swivel in place. It has plenty of clearance on both sides between the pump and barrel now. I have also bent the slide bars out on my other 7600’s and it will eliminate most of the side to side pump slop. Didn’t have to do it on the whelen. I let the loc tite dry for 5 days and took it to the range to try my ladder tests. Since the barrel came loose I wanted to re check zero but didn’t have any extra loads laying around. I grabbed the first powder I saw in front of me that would work with 180 grain Hot cores …the most .358’s projectiles I had laying around I could afford to waste sighting in. I just loaded a starting load so I wouldn’t waste powder. Loaded up a half dozen. Got to the range to check zero at 25 yards. Good to go. Then tried three at 100 yards. They all touched at .4”! I zeroed the gun with the last two shots that touched an inch high above the bullseye. It is probably going only 2500 fps with the starting load and 18.5” barrel vs the 2650 fps 24” barrel advertised load data. Figured it’s closer to a 358 Winchester velocity. I’ll run with it this season and try for some loads that are 300/400 fps faster next year. The Hornady super perfomance factory ammo averaged 1.5" groups before i floated the barrel and loc tited. I will have to get a box some day and re test. I also slugged my bore at .358". Most .358" jacketed projectiles i have meaured are .357" so i would assume thats also part of the accuracy problem. I have the same barnes that measure .357". Also 200 and 250 grain hormady at .357" and norma at .3565". All say .358" on the box. My Hot cores arw .358"/.3585" on average thar i group good with. Imo its like throwing a hot dog down a hallway with underized projectiles. Did you slug your barrel and measure you projectiles? I had over sized 180 graim speers a few years ago that crimpled my brass trying to seat them. They were .3595 to .363". Speer confimed they were our of spec and replaced them.
Yes...yes it is!
I have a Traditions outfitter single shot in 35 Whelen and LOVE it!
I love mine. MRC X3 left hand. Worked up a 225 g TSX load and haven’t looked back. The effect on a gong at 200 yards compared to my 30-06 is surprising.
35 Whelan is the bomb. Love mine built on a 98 Mauser. Back in the 80’s when a ton of military Mauser came in, I worked for a large sporting goods company. I cherry picked a dozen or so, and have made several nice custom rifles.
Picked up the guide gun version of this in 375 ruger. Very happy with it.
I really appreciate channels like Rons and Whotee. They do amazing jobs reviewing and talking guns and hunting without getting political.
I built my 35 Whelen on a VZ24 Mauser action back in 1997 with a beautiful piece of walnut tried to copy the look of a classic African safari rifle . I have taken many animals with this rifle using the 180 Barnes TTSX ammo love the 35 Whelen.
I love my Whelen. It is a CVA Apex, and it shoots sub moa with Barnes Vortx TTSX 180 grain factory ammo. In LA and MS they are very popular for deer because they qualify for "primitive" season. Meat loss is surprisingly low, much less than with my 280 Rem
Single shot 35 whelen is very popular in Mississippi primitive weapon season. I have a TC Encore in 35 whelen that shoots 250gr Sierra Bullets 3/4" with handloads.
Got a H & R Rem for Free & use it all season unless I’m going 200 + which isn’t very often in south Mississippi.
My Rugar MM 30/06 had a barrel rub on the stock so had a gunsmith relieve the stock which really improved its accuracy
I too am a big fan of the 35 Whelen (actually I think all of the U.S. .358 cartridges are unappreciated and underused), therefor watching all the videos going around about the 35 Whelen is a common pastime. So, thanks for this one. But what makes this video so special, and what is the source of this letter, relates to the rifle you used. It's just what I've been looking for and had essentially given up hoping to find. The iron sights, the barrel band for the rifle sling, the rugged wrap-around front sight base, and most of all, it's got true controlled-round feed! All the features that give a rifle that "classic" look, and a dependable action (though many will debate that last fact). Anyway, I'm beating the bushes trying to find one, and thanking you for your, perhaps, unintended heads-up. Thank again.
Am new to the .35 Whelen but am excited to give it a go!
Hey, Ron. I know you're a fan of Hammer Bullets. I am too. If you want 35 Whelen to be an absolute hammer (no pun intended) for big game, here's one for you...
- 255 grain Hammer HHT copper bullet (G7 BC of .271)
- Sectional density: .284
- Muzzle velocity: 2,750 fps (as per Hammer's own load data using 24" barrel)
- Muzzle energy: 4,283 ft-lbs.
- Maintains 4,000 ft-lbs. out to 55 yds.
- Energy at 100yds.: 3,783 ft-lbs.
- Energy at 400yds.: 2,550 ft-lbs. @ 2,122 fps
- 400yd. drop (200yd. zero): -22.3 inches
- 400yd. wind drift (10 mph): 10.7 inches
All numbers were calculated using the ShootersCalculator ballistics calculator with the standard criteria of sea level elevation, 59 fahrenheit, 29.92 barometric pressure, and and 50% relative humidity. The muzzle velocity used is at max velocity (again, as per Hammer's load data), but that goes to show what it's capable of.
If I lived in Alaska (or coastal British Columbia here in Canada), I'd choose 35 Whelen over any of the magnums. The numbers speak for themself, and it all comes in a cartridge that kicks much less than other cartridges that produce 4,200+ ft-lbs. of muzzle energy. Not to mention it uses a whole lot less powder doing so. The 35 Whelen would be my go-to cartridge if I lived out west, but for the eastern woodlands where I am (deer, black bear, moose), it's way more gun than I need. Regardless, it's an excellent and highly capable cartridge.
I have a 358 I built on a 8x57 case, blown out on the shoulder. Can run it in an intermediate length Mauser action, and it will absolutely do anything the Whelen Wil do. I also have a 35 Brown-Whelen and a 358 Norma Mag.
The 35 Remington is an excellent cartridge as well and chambered in the modern Marlin as well as the older Remingtons along with the Thompson/Center Contender. I have seen "plain ole" Rem, Fed and Win ammo in the $80- $100.00 range as recently as 6 months ago. (I live in Georgia) It's a little better now but you likely will find ammo at a show or a warehouse type store, in my case, Adventure Outdoors in suburban Atlanta. WHAT A FRICKIN' SHAME. PS.. I gave away my Lee Classic Loader in 35 Rem years after parting with the rifle. I sure wish I had both back right now. I was young and stupid at the time. Barely 20 years old. Anyway, The Whelen is obviously a fine cartridge but since I have a Tikka chambered in 338 Winchester Magnum, the Whelen doesn't cover any bases for me. But CHEERS to the Whelen guys.❤
I always wanted a 350 Rem Magnum in a Model 600 but they were discontinued by the time I was old enough to purchase one. Years later, I passed a 6.5 Rem Magnum, which I regret to this day. But, by that time , the 280 Rem in a Winchester 70 Featherweight was my fav rifle.
The 350 Rem Mag has a tiny bit more case capacity but the modern 35 Whelen data from Sierra and Speer put the Whelen 200+ fps beyond the 350 RM
Love my Browning A Bolt 325 WSM!
This and the 9.3x62 are popular sambar deer calibres down here in Victoria, Australia. 🇦🇺 Thanks for sharing.
I have a Ruger African in 6.5 Swede; it has in my opinion beautiful bolt gun architecture. I also have a Winchester Model 94 (Big Bore) in .375 Winchester. I have had it since it was new, and I can remember what year that was. It is a good fast handling rifle in a light-medium caliber; and not too much recoil for all that drop in the stock. Both of these calibers sing nicely when hand loaded specifically for my needs.
Always liked the idea of the .35 Whelen, but I don’t know if I would get much chance to use it.
Ruger didn’t make any of those RCM cartridges, they told hornady what they wanted and let them figure it out. That’s actually where the powder research that became the superformance line came from and lead them down the line of success they have had since following a similar pattern with the creedmore and prc lines. Hornady podcast has several videos covering the history of that era, interesting listen for those interested.
I shoot a .35 Whelen, with 200 gn bullets the recoil isn't bad, not pleasant, but tolerable. When I start loading 250 gn bullets you know you're shooting something! That said, I bought a .308 Win last year because it has similar bullet drop with lighter bullets and less recoil to practice with.
The 358 norma mag is a total hammer. Falls in the same lenght as the 338wm, 30-06 based off the 375h&h case. Started out as ammo only, as well as the 308 norma. The 308 norma has a longer neck than the 300wm for better use of high bc bullets. Unfortunately almost obsolete....
You fellas are having entirely too much fun. That stock is very nice, because that recoil is straight back and little to no jumping. Nice rifle and video 👍
I didn't catch the barrel length.
I bought a single shot 35 Whelen that cost a little over 1200 bucks. A Lipseys Ruger #1.
Great cartridge. I have its big brother, the 35Gibbs.
Great video ! In that cartridge line up I was surprised that the .358 winchester was not in there. The .356 win. was the .358 winchester with a rim.
71+ year old FUD here. I had the same question about why barely any mention about the 358 Winchester, so I made a second long post with information about that. I load for 35 Whelen, 358 Winchester and 35 Remington. The 356 Winchester never equaled the 358 Winchester. It was kinda like comparing 308 Winchester to 30-06. I almost got a 356 in the 94XTR Big Bore once just because I like some lever guns and the 35’s but couldn’t swing the deal.😢 Maybe I’ll try again some day before I get totally too old. Right now the next thing on my bucket want list is a Winchester Model 71 in 348 Winchester, the only cartridge it was ever made in. It equals or exceeds the 358 Winchester. Happy hunting!😊
@@davewinter2688 Thank you for your answer ! I am a 70 year old Canadian and totally agree with you. I always regretted not geting that 94 big bore in .375.
I love the caliber because brass is easy to make out of the 30-06 family of cases by just running them through my whelen die. My 35 rems are hard to come by casing wise.
In NW Oregon the strangest thing after ammo started again showing up it was the odd cartridge we hardly ever see started showing up and now ever store now has stacks of 35 Rem ammo and the Brass for reloader is also easy to get
@@Lure-Benson I haven’t looked for brass in a while, but I figured it was still impossible to find like always. They only seem to do special runs on them every 2 to 3 years and then everybody cries
@@tripplebeards3427 I made a check for you by a google search for 35 Rem brass and found absolutely no shortage of 35 Rem brass ready to ship.
It is now how much do you want?
I've successfully hunted big game with the 357 max, 35 rem, 348 win, 358 win, 350 rem mag and 35 whelen. If I really wanted to reach out and tag something, I bet the 358 shooting times Alaskan would do wonders. The 35 cal is an amazing hunting caliber, too bad most people ignore it.
That is a sweet rifle, indeed! Bravo! The classic Whelen is still shootable with commercially available ammunition. I have seen it on sale at BassPro and at their subsidiary Cabelas. And the price is not much higher than 30-06 either.
Ruger fan, 44 mag standard cal. Good topic, thanks.
Ruger did build a 77 in three fifty eight, a great gun .
I have one, they made 400 in that run in 1973.
71+ year old FUD here. Addenda to my first long sermon. I don’t know why it posted twice. Old age and technically inept? The video was educational and entertaining especially for younger shooters who never heard of the Whelen. I forgot to mention that I also shoot a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. Hornady LeverEvolution with the 200 grain FTX bullet has made the 35 Remington a legitimate 200+ yard cartridge especially with scope. My other 35 Is the 358 Winchester that Ron mentioned briefly. Both my 358 Winchester and 35 Whelen are custom jobs built around ‘98 Mauser actions. The 358 Winchester compared to the 35 Whelen is just like comparing 308 Winchester to 30-06 Springfield. Less powder, less power. Best with the 200 grain bullet at about 2500 fps or maybe a little more with some hand loads. If you sight it dead on at about 225 yards or 3 to 3.5 inches high at 100 you’re going to be good for a point blank hold from 250 to 275 yards. Again with a modern reticle or dial it in scope you can extend the 358 maximum effective hunting range to past 300 yards but don’t push it! If you want to shoot the bigger, heavier bullets faster and farther you need to step up to the Whelen. As Joseph pointed out, the Whelen is more versatile but if you if you keep the range close the 358 Winchester will do just as well as the Whelen. You don’t need to confine the 358 Winchester to short actions. With the ‘98 Mauser length actions you can seat the longer, heavier bullets farther out to take full advantage of the limited case capacity. I think 225 grain is the maximum for the 358 Winchester. All hail the 35’s! Again, happy hunting boys and girls!😊
The '03 and '06 cartridge case capacity has always been so perfect for building great cartridges. Modern powders have only made this better. You can get so close to the milder magnums that it actually reduces the "need" for a magnum cartridge case for most of us.
Difficult to have the cartrige here in Italy, but, thanking God, and herr Bock, we have the 9.3x62 😊
A couple of Southern states have put it in the primitive weapons season in a single shot rifle. Basically it has to be a single shot rifle and 35 caliber and larger.
I have a 9.3 x 57mm in a husqvarna from 1943 that I love. I use to had a 9.3 x 62mm from 1950’s from Stiga factory that fell apart! I hunt moose with but I would love to try the 35 whelen I believe that it would be fairly similar to my 9.3 x 57mm and it has a relatively mild recoil! Love your shows!
It seams like having more surface ,larger caliber makes it more efficent accelerating down the barrel.
Ron, When you said at 12:00 o clock I smiled. I then cringed when the dud occurred He ejected the cartridge without waiting . Ever heard of a cook-off? The 35 Whelen is a beast. I have a CVA Scout single shot. I hope Thompson Center offers a barrel in 35 Whelen for my Pro Hunter when the All American Company returns.
Hangfire, not cookoff.
@@TDC7594 Machine Gunners call it a Cook off.lol
@clintonlayne9253 Different phenomena. A cook-off is a spontaneous ignition caused by long strings of shots fired heating the chamber to the extent that a chambered round will absorb enough heat to ignite. Typically sequentially, as long as fresh rounds are available. This is why most dedicated machineguns (M60, PKM, etc.) fire from an open bolt, preventing a round sitting in the chamber. A hangfire occurs when a chambered round has its primer struck without immediately igniting the cartridge. The priming compound (rarely the propellant) fizzles, sometimes firing the round a few seconds late. Those that fail to ignite altogether are known as misfires.
The 35 whelen has a huge following here in central iowa. It just became a cartridge we could use in the last couple of years. Sooo much better than slugs. I've built 5 35's in 2 years for people in the area. Everyone loves them. I shoot 200 grain hammers at 3000 fps. Simply amazing out to 400 yds. I'm going to bring it to elk camp instead of my 7 rem mag next time...or my new 280ai. Thanks to Joseph...I have a new love...in rifles. Lol
I have always wanted to build a 35 Whelen. It is truly an under rated cartridge for sure. Like I am always telling people now that we can easilya nd cheaply range our game and have affordable scopes that are easy to dial no need to chase after flat shooting cartridges! The best of the past is twice as a good the second time round! We have better brass, powder and bullet selection than ever. Time to revisit all the old cartridges and not just the speed demons of the past! I have always made due with either a 300WM or 30-06 loaded with 180gr-220gr bullets. Hard to argue though that the 35 Whelen is super effeciecent, deadly and practical. The fact that it can achieve such velocity 200+ greater with 220gr-250gr bullets with less or the same powder as the 30-06 with 180gr. bullets is amazing sweet spot. Sectional density and ballistic coefecient is not the end all and be all in the world of hunting. It does not hurt if you can have it all but sometimes it just does ot seem to matter much. Look at the 400gr. 500gr. hard cast loads on bear from a 45-70 on paper not that impressive on bear very impressive!
It’s been over 10 years ago, but I wanted to buy a 35 wheeling and was hunting for one and never found it. However, I came across and settled on at 350 Remington Magnum. It was chambered in a Remington model 673. Beautiful righthowever, it is crazy hard to find brass for that. Ammunition on the shelf is nonexistent.
I want a 35 Whelen badly
You should get one. Or a 9.3x62. I have and like the Whelen, but if I were starting from scratch, I'd go with the 9.3×62. Look into John Barsness's load data for the 9.3 using R-15. It comes really close to the 375 H&H with top loads.
@@jasonshults368I’m considering building one and I’m really torn between the two. Seems like the 9.3 might pack just a bit more punch.
Both are excellent.
The Hawkeye rifle looked beautiful. Such a classic. A very useful cartridge for bigger game but not much point when there are plenty of effective, more available and cheaper 30 cals around. Seems like another excuse for another rifle in the safe. As for the recoil in the 358 Norma Mag and UMT, you can stick that where the sun doesn't shine.
Well if I was limited to what I can buy ammo wise at my local Walmart or what I can purchase their I would limited for sure. Lucky for me I do not let availablility of ammo at Walmart and the 1 other store that sells ammo in my town of 20,000 limit what I own. You can mail order ammo or load your own. 30-06 ammo is not cheap today no ammo is cheap today. The only affordable ammo is bulk 5,56 NATO, 6.5 Creedmoor, maybe 308 Win and 22LR.
Joseph kicked a field goal!!