@@gamingtime468 Grievous is an opponent no ordinary YV warrior could face. He'd have to face a Warmaster like Lah if not the Supreme overlord himself. But then the question arises, how intimidated would said Vong get.
@@gamingtime468 No, no it doesn't. Grievous would destroy the Vong. He ate jedi for fun. Yes Jedi struggled against the Vong, but they still won. 99% of Jedi are weaker then Grievous 1v1. Grievous I would say can take 5 jedi on with slight struggle. Vong would probably be 10-20 at a time? Maybe more?
The theme of a machine replicating the motions but not the essence of an art- of a machine replacing a deeply human enterprise- has stronger resonance nowadays than it did twenty years ago, when Grievous was created as a character.
The description of what machine replication lacks, goes even deeper. The issue with machine replication, is that it cannot access the subtle connection to everything a human experiences and can share with others. The art. That spontaneous thing that is a literal connection to other humans. It can estimate that, and reduce a false connection, but never the true thing. Why? Simple. It is not a valid portion of the lineage. I do not necessarily me literal lineage. Genetic. Blood and bone. Adoptive even. I mean more like the Abrahamic lineage. He’s considered a father in faith. A lineage of belief. Well such is any group of people connected by life and work. Which can and is a cohesive force. A machine cannot either produce a legitimate connection to it, only an estimation of what was and has been. But it cannot produce what constitutes a proper evolution of that lineage. Worse. That lineage is a feedback. That art is a feedback. If you introduce falsity and do not differentiate, you create unpredictable feedback. Which is not only going to destroy your model for faking it. It’s going to begin to destroy the feedback of motion to art that constitutes a lineage of thought it’s attempting to replicate. The antidote is looking for true good. And good truth. Truth is what is most true at the most levels. Good is the things worthy to stand the longest. They can be used to measure off of each other. The peak is your aim.
In my Star Wars tabletop, I had a General Grievous as a cameo. He killed some Jedi NPCs, and then chased players in a speeder like a metal cocroach from Hell. Then he shot at heroes Star Courier, using TWO missile launchers at once. His statblock included, that he "deals 1d4 Jedi of damage". Grievous is like Adam Smasher (in tabletop). You don't fight him. You survive to tell the tale.
You're not clever for aping the "Cthulhu eats 1d4 investigators per turn" thing and passing it off as your own btw (though I'm sure the sessions with Grievous were dope, just don't steal cute little jokes like that)
Honestly I find it pretty funny. Most jokes are derivatives of others. While nice to explain origins of some, it’s not necessary unless you’re planning on capitalizing it for profit really. And even then there’s a lot of leeway when it comes to inspiration, parody, and ripoff. Claiming someone’s not clever just because they used an already established joke in what is a niche of tabletop is just rude. Kudos to you @andreykuzmin4317. Personally I enjoyed the metal cockroach from Hell bit. Just imagining the players dropping orbital boots and the bastard keeps coming angrier then before.
Dude is complaining about stealing a joke that is entirely dependent on stealing an entire narrative world for the joke to exist.😂 almost as sad as people saying Pearl Jam ripped off Jimi Hendrix cause the guitarist was inspired by his work😂
I had a giant lego of General Grievous when I was little, and he was a major comfort for me during some dark periods of my life. I still have that lego now as an adult, and I'm never going to sell it. During those dark times, General Grievous was my hero
@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse yeah, I suppose it is ironic lol. But hey, Grievous did some good things too, such as when he defended his people from the yamrii
Grievous does stack the odds in his favor, but understand this: the Jedi by nature have the odds stacked in their favor. It took over a millenium of hiding, scheming, plotting, and manipulating for the Sith to destroy the Jedi Order. And the Sith were closer to being the Jedi’s equals than any other being in the Galaxy. Few fights involving a Jedi are ever truly fair.
My favorite Grievous Moment is actually in YOUR own written fanfiction from the Hypoori POV UA-cam Video you did here on Geetsly's! "I am… the future!" Still gives me chills! Because the lead up to this is so amazing and the moment itself is just classic grievous! Truly amazing work guys!
Grievous's backstory is what made me fall in love with the character. Just adds a lot to his badass exterior. The backstory I refer to is the one where he got tricked into the cybernetics
Grievous is one of my favourite characters. It’s a shame he got limited spotlight in Revenge of the Sith and even the Clone Wars. I’d love to see more of him fighting and killing random Jedi, like what he did in Tales of the Empire, which was one of his coolest appearances especially with the new animated model.
Grevious :"The weakness of the flesh disgusted me. I seek to embrace the strength and certainty of durasteel" *Happy adeptus mechanicus mechanical noises*
@@merafirewing6591 Or he would become friend with Necrons, since they too cannot feel anything anymore. Though Necrons seek to have flesh again, so perhaps Grevious won't like them.
I like to think that Grievous is both the cartoon villain and the murderous psychopath. If you underestimate him you will reach a point in the fight where you realize you are deeply screwed and probably going to end up as a part of his collection.
Yeah - it adds a whole lot of character to him in the process. He’s essentially a guy that looks like a joke compared to others, but he’s not to be underestimated.
General Grievous is my favorite Star Wars character. Since his introduction back in 2003 I've been a fan. 20 years later and he's still my favorite character only slightly above Darth Vader.
Acolyte has helped make clear the Jedi often act swiftly and are willing at times at least willing to put getting a good result over doing what is right. They were willing to arrest Ashoka without any real proof cuz they were more concerned with being perceived as being in control
Yeah the acolyte did do some things right although those things still are controversial. Like the Jedi not being 100% good and righteous and instead sometimes being morally grey and questionable. And that one Senator who was questioning the Jedi was a great touch. Legends Grievous had a great reason to hate the Jedi because they did morally questionable actions at best, similar to the acolyte.
Lucas said he was afraid Grevious would be seen as too much like Vader… yet Durge and Grevious have incredibly similar traits and personalities yet both are super unique and distinguished…
Grievous has been my favorite character since I was 5 years old. I wish we could have gotten better depictions of his character in the movies or TV shows.
I often like to imagine that the cartoonish side we see in The Clone Wars and Episode Three is him remembering his former rushes of adrenaline when faced with an exciting challenge. Specifically when it comes to Kenobi. Yet when he regains a glimmer of humanity, it sets him up for failure. For he can no longer be who he once was no matter how hard he might try. His mind and body would not allow him and the conflict results in his abilities fading. If only until he returns to logic, cold as the shell of his body.
"I'll never understand why you submitted yourself to the modifications" "IMPROVMENTS!!! I submit to nobody" He was a puppet for sure, but he already wanted to do alot of what the sith needed him for, and he'd probably still see it all as worth it to cause the jedi tofall
End of the day, Grievous is like almost all major enemies the jedi face from their own galaxy. Forged, in large part, by the stupidity of the order that lost any semblance of balance millennia ago.
Grievous & Maul are my favorite characters in Star Wars. Which is my #1? Well it changes and depends on my mood. Watching this video Grievous is my favorite.
A new Geetsly video. This will make a fine addition to my collection. lol. Now that the joke is out of the way time for my attempt at an insightful comment. XD, 8:04-8:24: Hey now, just because his emotions might be artifical, doesn't mean there any less real, as Pixel from Lego Ninjago Season 12 once pointed out when it came to machines and their emotions. Milton Dire: But you're a robot. What you experience as emotion is merely a simulation of emotion. It's just code. Ones and zeros. Pixel: As are yours. They are electrical impulses in your brain. Also, much like you Geetsly, I try to defend the Jedi and I still greatly admire and like them, but them looking down at Grievous just because he turned himself into mostly a machine so he could beat them is very arrogant of them. The Force doesn't automatically make someone all powerful and unstoppable, the large amounts of dead Jedi and Sith can attest to that. Not everyone is lucky enough to be born Force Sensative, and even some that are aren't lucky enough to recieve proper training so they can properly perfect their gifts, as Luke once said, "Talent without training is meaningless." And Anakin prove that in Attack of the Clones when he fought Dooku. Anakin may be the most powerful Force User ever, but without knowing how to use that power properly or being up against someone faster and more manverable then all that power is meaningless as he'll never hit his opponent. The Jedi should be more respectful to those that choose to fight without the Force, if there all about fair and honor and stuff, since they disliked how Grievous would use four blades to gang up on a Jjedi using one, then they should respect what others have to do to fight against the Force without using the Force itself, like all the tricks and gadets Mandalorians devolved to fight Jedi. It's always impressive when someone without the Force can beat someone with it by simplying using their brain and skill. Again using brains and skill, as Cad Bane once pointed out any idiot can kill a Jedi with a sniper rifle it doesn't take much thought or skill, what's truly impressive is fighting a Jedi head on, being able to tank a Force Ppush or get back up from one and then retailaiting with you're own ways to fight without the Force and still win. Of course, Grievous did take it to an unhealthy extream and that is a legitmate reason for the Jedi to look down on him, but still.
23:03 I hate to say it but, this fits nearly one to one with the current plague that is AI in the visual arts field. As an artist myself hearing what you and the resources describing that monstrosity that is Grievous, it truly is what is happening in the real world right now.
26:24 the one thing in this video I'd say is unfair to claim. Yeah the Jedi are the good guys yada yada yada, but you can't convince me it is cheating to use technology and mind games to win a fight against a literal space wizard who uses supernatural means to increase their strength, speed and reaction time to superhuman levels to the point nearly no single being can even hope to stand a chance against a well trained jedi. "Noooo you can't use cybernetic implants and tactical mind games to surpass my years of phylosophical study and superpowers that's cheating!" "16 strikes per second goes vruuuum"
wasent one of the parts of the agreement that they would not mess with his brain using chips to controll it or making him more agressive (something like that) but they went back on it and did it anyway? it makes you wonder if that was the case if he was forced to do some of the more terrible things he did like glassing one of the city planets of the republic.
28:12 - 28:21 Wasn't there a Sith Lord who wanted to do this exact thing, but on a Galactic scale? I believe it was Tenebrous (Plagueis's master) if I recall correctly.
I've always had one serious issue with Grievous....being mostly machine, being not with the force, why can't the Jedi just throw him around? He has no abilities of the force! Why can't they just crush him, like what Windu had partially done to him? It makes no sense, he should be nothing to them in power! If he had some racial ability to resist the force or something, that's one thing. Maybe certain metals to resist the force, but that's never mentioned, either. So, it makes no sense to me.
He is made to overwhelm the Jedi's focus and limit their force abilities so that they can not push him around as they are too busy screaming in terror and blocking the flurry of saber strikes which allows grievous to make the killing blow. Does it make sense now
You can draw many parallels between Grievous and Vader. Both were cruel, great warriors, and relentless in their hunt for Jedi. As great as they were, neither fully was able to achieve their full potential. If Grievous were force sensitive, I feel he would be unstoppable. If Vader didn’t have a piece of Anakin, I feel he would be unstoppable.
The death of Grievous was an inevitable, no matter how it may have come about. Despite all of his technological power and terror, he was never truly a match for a living soul from an organic being, or one who is connected to the Force. We all know the Force represents many things like community, but there’s one other that isn’t acknowledged as often: Spirit. There’s nothing wrong with technology or technological advancements, but to rely too much on technology means to sacrifice something machine can never hope to truly possess. There is a reason why Yoda said the mind is powerful and suggested to use it well in the first episode of the Clone Wars. We have all that we need, or at the very least that final piece of the puzzle, within us to overcome any obstacle or hardship we might face. And to use it to do so is a mere fraction of its potential - of our potential.
I think the biggest problem with Grievous is not that he was flawed(He is but not issue in the series) but that there was only one of him. If Dooku could have found more individuals who could match Grievous and make an entire hit squad; they'd be unstoppable. The reason Tech > Magic is because magic is bespoke, artisan and custom; it requires exceptional individuals to work. While tech is mass produced, if you don't mass produce, of course you are gonna lose to magic, you need the numbers.
Here's a thing, the circumstances that had making Grievous a viable cyborg general were very special. He was both tactical genius and someone already willing to engage in on field combat, while also being put into a situation desperate enough that he would agree to take on cybernetics so extensive. Given how much was taken from him during this process on a physical and emotional level i don't see many worthy candidates agreeing to the process even if shoe horned into similar situations. What's more is, the process of making grievous was very *very* expensive, and even then he's still considered something of an experimental design. In general the separatist had an issue of creating a lot of fantastical super weapons that the republic quelled before they got mass produced. Now that you do mention it, there was a comic where Grievous had Youngling hostage that he had plans to turn them into cyborgs like him as well only for that to be thwarted so it's not like the idea of making others wasn't attempted. In general (Pun Intended,) Count Dooku didn't really _Need_ another General Grievous. He was already killing swaths of jedi well enough, and more importantly basically becoming the mascot for all the separatist horrible war crimes which was more important to Dooku as Grievous was his scape Goat and distraction for the republic. Having more than one of him might spread the enemies attention too thin.
EXCEPT... IN Grievous's case the Cyborg warrior form WAS made to be a combat form of the highest an deadliest type available at the time. While ALSO being efficient, advanced with top notch systems available at the time for such a system, an even COMFORTABLE... Nothing to distract or detract from his abilities... NOT the case for Vader... Which was the EXACT POLAR OPPOSITE in about EVERY way while STILL being an effective Cyborg Form.. an being about the ONLY way to stay alive while being MADE to suffer for allowing himself to play out the events to make such measures a requirement anyways.. EVEN MORE insulting to Vader in the timeline where Grevious ALLOWS and even WANTS it .. Can see Vader enviously looking at that muttering "must be nice .."
I head him say that the suit was a matter of perspective between Grievous and Vader and I was shaking my head. Vader's suit WAS a prison, and not made to be a top level fighting suit. Glad to see your comment, much better than I could have said it as well.
@cchavezjr7 yeah.. I love sci-fi lore an thought it odd. Stuff about this suit. Vader's other "choice" other then the suit was DIE.. not much a choice. An the points in lore when he said "screw this reality.." the Force itself said.. "your NOT getting off THAT easily..." Found funny how he overlooked some the obvious.. an SO DID Sideous... he COULDA done things, discreet things, given his background, to slowly make the suit alot more tolerable, while keeping the Darkside power 2nd only to Palpatine at this point, an ESPECIALLY making his suit DISCREETLY to point it CAN take quite alot of Lightning or become totally impervious to it.. At that point Sideous would be in trouble.. so that thing bout Vader in classic form an suit here WASNT a guarantee either... he just didn't wanna consider the obvious
Something that bugged me after reading some of the lore from the table top games and earlier lore from the expanded universe. Why didn't more people use CLONING tech? As you've stated in earlier vids, the Kaminoan weren't the only cloners but they were the best, and they were a known entity. Why didn't Grievous get cloned? Why didn't Anakin get himself cloned by his 501st subordinats? I know with Vader the force power diminished with more clones of the user being alive, but he could clone himself then relinquish to the clone?
Maybe it's just me or if it's coincidental but doesn't Grevious and Revenant from Apex Legend have something in common? The persona, fighting tactics, etc
Depends on the Multiversal iteration. Remember, any mook horror show involving the Batman works out as long as we're talking the DCAU, Burtonverse Nolanverse, and Arkhamverse Batmen, NOT the 1966 and Schumacherverse Batmen. Now, all we need is for certain works of fiction nowadays to openly pay homage more on Clone Wars 2003 and less on the Filoni stuff. Cultural victories matter a lot these days.
In my life when stress is at the highest points it can get I start getting sleep paralysis it’s no joke I don’t get scared anymore but man it sucks iv learned to lower my stress so it hasn’t happened in years
This may be the autism/adhd talking but the only reason I like star wars is because I am fixated on General Grievous. Thank you for still making grievous content to this day
I've always had a HUGE problem with how the Jedi dealt with Grievous. It would be so mind-numbingly easy to destroy him with a simple telekinetic use of the force, that any average knight would be able to do so. The common counter-argument about not using the Force to attack is destroyed when you realize that, as this video states, the Jedi saw Grievous as an abomination, and not worthy of the respect that they would afford to a living being. They use the force on Droids endlessly in the Clone Wars, and this would be no different to them. It could even be argued as more justified and poetic to destroy Grievous with the very Force that he had turned his back on. The only conclusion that can be reached is that the Jedi were determined to beat Grievous in the arena that he had chosen, to prove that their skills still surpassed mechanical analysis and augmentation. Whether you see that as a righteous judgement, or as pride-fueled gatekeeping of their martial techniques, the fact remains that the Jedi CHOSE to allow Grievous to slaughter billions of innocents, when they could have stopped him at ANY time, if they truly wanted to.
There’s another reason: Grievous was often on the front lines and even more often had droids around him. It’s difficult for Jedi to focus and center themselves while under fire and knowing Grievous is near, and most were unprepared for the Clone Wars though focusing on defending blaster bolts more than lightsaber combat. There were few opportunities to confront Grievous alone. But you’re right in that the Jedi were hoping to beat him at his own game rather than let the Force flow through them
Wohh u said hes not all that complex . Hes extremely complex and unique a kashek warrior looked upnto by his clan hes a tactioun but runs when needs to better to survive than die his kashek heritage is complex . His family his feelings .NOW HE IS ABDARKSIDE HALF DROID BUILT BY THE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE HE IS A NON STOP KILLING MACHINE A CYBERNETIC NIGHTMARE WITH LIGHTSABERS AND ALL LIGHT SABER FORMS A HUSK HE FEELS NOTHING HE KILLS FOR JOY HE IS PAIN
As a star wars fan I wish We had crossover comics or something the Covenant and Tau Empire Would feet' so well in Star Wars. And there's so many scenarios they could do with it Could you imagine the UNSC Finding The rest of the galaxy😅 or Master Chief Being brought to the emperor, and i can Imagine the elites becoming vader new Fist And the tau Would be pretty interesting That's a third faction in the clone wars but I think would most likely lose in the end ( But I know the emperor would love the technology they have It will be very useful to him )
If grievous had some parts of his body or if he was bio organic ( A mixture of machines and flash ) He would have been clapping the cheeks of every female jedi He gets his hands on , and surprisingly, that wouldn't be as dark as other things in Star Wars are ( General Grievous actually has a lot of children that are still alive, so there are many descendants of general grievous )
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To the Jedi, Grievous in Legends is like a Yuuzhan Vong warrior on steroids while being the polar opposite of a Yuuzhan Vong warrior on steroids.
I love how this nonsensical comment makes complete sense according to Legend’s lore
you know what i want to see, so bad? yuuzhan vong vs grievous. i don't need to explain. it speaks for itself.
@@gamingtime468 Grievous is an opponent no ordinary YV warrior could face. He'd have to face a Warmaster like Lah if not the Supreme overlord himself. But then the question arises, how intimidated would said Vong get.
@@gamingtime468 No, no it doesn't. Grievous would destroy the Vong. He ate jedi for fun. Yes Jedi struggled against the Vong, but they still won. 99% of Jedi are weaker then Grievous 1v1. Grievous I would say can take 5 jedi on with slight struggle. Vong would probably be 10-20 at a time? Maybe more?
No steroids for Yuuzhan Vong... only pheromones😘
Jedi check under their bed for General Grevious before going to sleep
Especially the Younglings
He skitters out from under the bed looking for lightsabers
The theme of a machine replicating the motions but not the essence of an art- of a machine replacing a deeply human enterprise- has stronger resonance nowadays than it did twenty years ago, when Grievous was created as a character.
Well said. Aged like fine wine
The description of what machine replication lacks, goes even deeper. The issue with machine replication, is that it cannot access the subtle connection to everything a human experiences and can share with others. The art. That spontaneous thing that is a literal connection to other humans. It can estimate that, and reduce a false connection, but never the true thing. Why? Simple. It is not a valid portion of the lineage.
I do not necessarily me literal lineage. Genetic. Blood and bone. Adoptive even. I mean more like the Abrahamic lineage. He’s considered a father in faith. A lineage of belief. Well such is any group of people connected by life and work. Which can and is a cohesive force. A machine cannot either produce a legitimate connection to it, only an estimation of what was and has been. But it cannot produce what constitutes a proper evolution of that lineage.
Worse. That lineage is a feedback. That art is a feedback. If you introduce falsity and do not differentiate, you create unpredictable feedback. Which is not only going to destroy your model for faking it. It’s going to begin to destroy the feedback of motion to art that constitutes a lineage of thought it’s attempting to replicate.
The antidote is looking for true good. And good truth. Truth is what is most true at the most levels. Good is the things worthy to stand the longest. They can be used to measure off of each other. The peak is your aim.
In my Star Wars tabletop, I had a General Grievous as a cameo. He killed some Jedi NPCs, and then chased players in a speeder like a metal cocroach from Hell. Then he shot at heroes Star Courier, using TWO missile launchers at once. His statblock included, that he "deals 1d4 Jedi of damage". Grievous is like Adam Smasher (in tabletop). You don't fight him. You survive to tell the tale.
You're not clever for aping the "Cthulhu eats 1d4 investigators per turn" thing and passing it off as your own btw (though I'm sure the sessions with Grievous were dope, just don't steal cute little jokes like that)
I let players know, where I borrowed it from.
@@ssshaihulud cthulhu hungy
Honestly I find it pretty funny. Most jokes are derivatives of others. While nice to explain origins of some, it’s not necessary unless you’re planning on capitalizing it for profit really. And even then there’s a lot of leeway when it comes to inspiration, parody, and ripoff. Claiming someone’s not clever just because they used an already established joke in what is a niche of tabletop is just rude.
Kudos to you @andreykuzmin4317. Personally I enjoyed the metal cockroach from Hell bit. Just imagining the players dropping orbital boots and the bastard keeps coming angrier then before.
Dude is complaining about stealing a joke that is entirely dependent on stealing an entire narrative world for the joke to exist.😂 almost as sad as people saying Pearl Jam ripped off Jimi Hendrix cause the guitarist was inspired by his work😂
Ah the Legends Grievous, the Knight Slayer with over 247 direct Jedi Kills.
Because he was just built different
Literally xD
I had a giant lego of General Grievous when I was little, and he was a major comfort for me during some dark periods of my life. I still have that lego now as an adult, and I'm never going to sell it. During those dark times, General Grievous was my hero
„Ones man’s Trash is another man’s treasure“ type shit
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Absolute respect, reminds me a bit of how his people saw Qymaen Jai Sheelal
this war criminal is my hero! (not hating just found it ironic)
@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse yeah, I suppose it is ironic lol. But hey, Grievous did some good things too, such as when he defended his people from the yamrii
The title of this video already made me think of Master Kenobi having nightmares about Grievous having the high ground
It’s the only reason he’d use such an uncivilized weapon as a blaster. For only a moment Grievous had gotten the high ground
@@LordWyattCombined with Grievous holding Dutches Satine Kryze by the throat on the other hand 🖐🏻
Portable high ground!!!!!🎉
It is over General Kenobi, your boldness won't overcome the high ground, hahahahaha!
Calling (mainly 2003) General Grevious a "Jedi Sleep Paralysis Demon" is dangerously perfect.
Grievous does stack the odds in his favor, but understand this: the Jedi by nature have the odds stacked in their favor. It took over a millenium of hiding, scheming, plotting, and manipulating for the Sith to destroy the Jedi Order. And the Sith were closer to being the Jedi’s equals than any other being in the Galaxy. Few fights involving a Jedi are ever truly fair.
Grievous: "Listen to me, Jedi. I do not care about your politics. I do not care about your Republic"
My favorite Grievous Moment is actually in YOUR own written fanfiction from the Hypoori POV UA-cam Video you did here on Geetsly's!
"I am… the future!"
Still gives me chills!
Because the lead up to this is so amazing and the moment itself is just classic grievous! Truly amazing work guys!
Legends grievous was just different man 😢
Grievous's backstory is what made me fall in love with the character. Just adds a lot to his badass exterior. The backstory I refer to is the one where he got tricked into the cybernetics
Grievous is one of my favourite characters. It’s a shame he got limited spotlight in Revenge of the Sith and even the Clone Wars. I’d love to see more of him fighting and killing random Jedi, like what he did in Tales of the Empire, which was one of his coolest appearances especially with the new animated model.
I'm sad though that you only gave a mention of Ronderu lij Kuumar and how important she was to Grievous and how her death broke him.
It's a critical breaking point of his character and leaving it out is like leaving Padme out of Anakin's Story.
Grevious :"The weakness of the flesh disgusted me. I seek to embrace the strength and certainty of durasteel"
*Happy adeptus mechanicus mechanical noises*
They would love him.
@@merafirewing6591 Or he would become friend with Necrons, since they too cannot feel anything anymore. Though Necrons seek to have flesh again, so perhaps Grevious won't like them.
I like to think that Grievous is both the cartoon villain and the murderous psychopath.
If you underestimate him you will reach a point in the fight where you realize you are deeply screwed and probably going to end up as a part of his collection.
Yeah - it adds a whole lot of character to him in the process. He’s essentially a guy that looks like a joke compared to others, but he’s not to be underestimated.
General Grievous is my favorite Star Wars character. Since his introduction back in 2003 I've been a fan. 20 years later and he's still my favorite character only slightly above Darth Vader.
Same here friend.
Glad to see a proper evaluation and appreciation for the general. He’s been my favorite from the first time I saw him.
When Grievous knocks on your door: 😵
Grievous: Now, where are you lightsabers?
He’s my favorite character, what filoni did to him is criminal
As great as cowboy hat man is you got a point. To be fair though George wanted him to be the way he is in canon from the get go.
Grievous ah.... the fallen hero, sad, injust and just horrible life, just the perfect main character
The title: The jedi sleep paralysis demon
Me: oh this'll be great for my bedtime playlist
You've turned Grevious into my favorite character I want you to know that.
He deserves his own film
Acolyte has helped make clear the Jedi often act swiftly and are willing at times at least willing to put getting a good result over doing what is right. They were willing to arrest Ashoka without any real proof cuz they were more concerned with being perceived as being in control
Yeah the acolyte did do some things right although those things still are controversial. Like the Jedi not being 100% good and righteous and instead sometimes being morally grey and questionable. And that one Senator who was questioning the Jedi was a great touch. Legends Grievous had a great reason to hate the Jedi because they did morally questionable actions at best, similar to the acolyte.
@@crammothy we already knew jedi were flawed tho
I often forget that Grevious actually had children and wives
Lucas said he was afraid Grevious would be seen as too much like Vader… yet Durge and Grevious have incredibly similar traits and personalities yet both are super unique and distinguished…
Grievous has been my favorite character since I was 5 years old. I wish we could have gotten better depictions of his character in the movies or TV shows.
I wish we could’ve seen more of THAT Grievous bro 😭
Grievous is my all time favorite SW character, probably because I first saw him in the Gendy Tartakovsky Clone Wars series.
17:09 *sickening over the weakness of the flesh intensifies*
I often like to imagine that the cartoonish side we see in The Clone Wars and Episode Three is him remembering his former rushes of adrenaline when faced with an exciting challenge. Specifically when it comes to Kenobi.
Yet when he regains a glimmer of humanity, it sets him up for failure. For he can no longer be who he once was no matter how hard he might try. His mind and body would not allow him and the conflict results in his abilities fading. If only until he returns to logic, cold as the shell of his body.
"I'll never understand why you submitted yourself to the modifications"
"IMPROVMENTS!!! I submit to nobody"
He was a puppet for sure, but he already wanted to do alot of what the sith needed him for, and he'd probably still see it all as worth it to cause the jedi tofall
He will wear his black cape while standing in your bedroom door for the extra scary aura.
End of the day, Grievous is like almost all major enemies the jedi face from their own galaxy. Forged, in large part, by the stupidity of the order that lost any semblance of balance millennia ago.
Grievous & Maul are my favorite characters in Star Wars. Which is my #1? Well it changes and depends on my mood. Watching this video Grievous is my favorite.
A new Geetsly video. This will make a fine addition to my collection. lol.
Now that the joke is out of the way time for my attempt at an insightful comment. XD,
8:04-8:24: Hey now, just because his emotions might be artifical, doesn't mean there any less real, as Pixel from Lego Ninjago Season 12 once pointed out when it came to machines and their emotions.
Milton Dire: But you're a robot. What you experience as emotion is merely a simulation of emotion. It's just code. Ones and zeros.
Pixel: As are yours. They are electrical impulses in your brain.
Also, much like you Geetsly, I try to defend the Jedi and I still greatly admire and like them, but them looking down at Grievous just because he turned himself into mostly a machine so he could beat them is very arrogant of them. The Force doesn't automatically make someone all powerful and unstoppable, the large amounts of dead Jedi and Sith can attest to that. Not everyone is lucky enough to be born Force Sensative, and even some that are aren't lucky enough to recieve proper training so they can properly perfect their gifts, as Luke once said, "Talent without training is meaningless." And Anakin prove that in Attack of the Clones when he fought Dooku. Anakin may be the most powerful Force User ever, but without knowing how to use that power properly or being up against someone faster and more manverable then all that power is meaningless as he'll never hit his opponent. The Jedi should be more respectful to those that choose to fight without the Force, if there all about fair and honor and stuff, since they disliked how Grievous would use four blades to gang up on a Jjedi using one, then they should respect what others have to do to fight against the Force without using the Force itself, like all the tricks and gadets Mandalorians devolved to fight Jedi. It's always impressive when someone without the Force can beat someone with it by simplying using their brain and skill. Again using brains and skill, as Cad Bane once pointed out any idiot can kill a Jedi with a sniper rifle it doesn't take much thought or skill, what's truly impressive is fighting a Jedi head on, being able to tank a Force Ppush or get back up from one and then retailaiting with you're own ways to fight without the Force and still win. Of course, Grievous did take it to an unhealthy extream and that is a legitmate reason for the Jedi to look down on him, but still.
23:03 I hate to say it but, this fits nearly one to one with the current plague that is AI in the visual arts field. As an artist myself hearing what you and the resources describing that monstrosity that is Grievous, it truly is what is happening in the real world right now.
I much prefer the backstory where he lost a lover, as it further parallel's anakin's downfall.
In one word: perfect.
26:24 the one thing in this video I'd say is unfair to claim.
Yeah the Jedi are the good guys yada yada yada, but you can't convince me it is cheating to use technology and mind games to win a fight against a literal space wizard who uses supernatural means to increase their strength, speed and reaction time to superhuman levels to the point nearly no single being can even hope to stand a chance against a well trained jedi.
"Noooo you can't use cybernetic implants and tactical mind games to surpass my years of phylosophical study and superpowers that's cheating!"
"16 strikes per second goes vruuuum"
wasent one of the parts of the agreement that they would not mess with his brain using chips to controll it or making him more agressive (something like that) but they went back on it and did it anyway? it makes you wonder if that was the case if he was forced to do some of the more terrible things he did like glassing one of the city planets of the republic.
Grevious was a custom built jedi breaker
This is my favorite Star Wars lore channel.
Let's not forget, that most heroes of Star Wars, are Human.
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If this fandom has proved anything. It’s that humans are the worse.
“My-those”
I assume he was meant to say mythos oop
Obi-Wan's being able to best Grievous in lightsaber combat was one of the times ROTS completely filled up my BS meter.
28:12 - 28:21
Wasn't there a Sith Lord who wanted to do this exact thing, but on a Galactic scale? I believe it was Tenebrous (Plagueis's master) if I recall correctly.
Let’s goooo baby what a great way to end the week..thank you Geestly!!
Not just a machine. A vengeful, jedi-hunting, jedi-hating, machine.
Like Vader
“Some of whom consider him their favorite Star Wars character.”
Like me!
I've always had one serious issue with Grievous....being mostly machine, being not with the force, why can't the Jedi just throw him around? He has no abilities of the force! Why can't they just crush him, like what Windu had partially done to him? It makes no sense, he should be nothing to them in power! If he had some racial ability to resist the force or something, that's one thing. Maybe certain metals to resist the force, but that's never mentioned, either. So, it makes no sense to me.
He is made to overwhelm the Jedi's focus and limit their force abilities so that they can not push him around as they are too busy screaming in terror and blocking the flurry of saber strikes which allows grievous to make the killing blow. Does it make sense now
I think Grievous begs the question: given enough innovation, could Grievous have surpassed not just 99%, but 100%, of the order?
I almost have to wonder what Order 66 would've looked like if Grevious led the attack on the Jedi Temple...
Grievous and the Jedi aren’t so different as both traded away their personal connection to friends and family all for a higher purpose
I could never get into loving General Grievous the way everyone else does. Maybe that’ll change someday.
A cool little eastern egg in TCW in lair if grevious we see his slow change to cyborg on the statues in his lair for his transformation
Still my personal favourite character
You can draw many parallels between Grievous and Vader. Both were cruel, great warriors, and relentless in their hunt for Jedi. As great as they were, neither fully was able to achieve their full potential. If Grievous were force sensitive, I feel he would be unstoppable. If Vader didn’t have a piece of Anakin, I feel he would be unstoppable.
The death of Grievous was an inevitable, no matter how it may have come about. Despite all of his technological power and terror, he was never truly a match for a living soul from an organic being, or one who is connected to the Force. We all know the Force represents many things like community, but there’s one other that isn’t acknowledged as often: Spirit. There’s nothing wrong with technology or technological advancements, but to rely too much on technology means to sacrifice something machine can never hope to truly possess. There is a reason why Yoda said the mind is powerful and suggested to use it well in the first episode of the Clone Wars. We have all that we need, or at the very least that final piece of the puzzle, within us to overcome any obstacle or hardship we might face. And to use it to do so is a mere fraction of its potential - of our potential.
I think the biggest problem with Grievous is not that he was flawed(He is but not issue in the series) but that there was only one of him. If Dooku could have found more individuals who could match Grievous and make an entire hit squad; they'd be unstoppable. The reason Tech > Magic is because magic is bespoke, artisan and custom; it requires exceptional individuals to work. While tech is mass produced, if you don't mass produce, of course you are gonna lose to magic, you need the numbers.
Here's a thing, the circumstances that had making Grievous a viable cyborg general were very special. He was both tactical genius and someone already willing to engage in on field combat, while also being put into a situation desperate enough that he would agree to take on cybernetics so extensive. Given how much was taken from him during this process on a physical and emotional level i don't see many worthy candidates agreeing to the process even if shoe horned into similar situations.
What's more is, the process of making grievous was very *very* expensive, and even then he's still considered something of an experimental design. In general the separatist had an issue of creating a lot of fantastical super weapons that the republic quelled before they got mass produced. Now that you do mention it, there was a comic where Grievous had Youngling hostage that he had plans to turn them into cyborgs like him as well only for that to be thwarted so it's not like the idea of making others wasn't attempted.
In general (Pun Intended,) Count Dooku didn't really _Need_ another General Grievous. He was already killing swaths of jedi well enough, and more importantly basically becoming the mascot for all the separatist horrible war crimes which was more important to Dooku as Grievous was his scape Goat and distraction for the republic. Having more than one of him might spread the enemies attention too thin.
EXCEPT... IN Grievous's case the Cyborg warrior form WAS made to be a combat form of the highest an deadliest type available at the time. While ALSO being efficient, advanced with top notch systems available at the time for such a system, an even COMFORTABLE... Nothing to distract or detract from his abilities...
NOT the case for Vader... Which was the EXACT POLAR OPPOSITE in about EVERY way while STILL being an effective Cyborg Form.. an being about the ONLY way to stay alive while being MADE to suffer for allowing himself to play out the events to make such measures a requirement anyways..
EVEN MORE insulting to Vader in the timeline where Grevious ALLOWS and even WANTS it ..
Can see Vader enviously looking at that muttering "must be nice .."
I head him say that the suit was a matter of perspective between Grievous and Vader and I was shaking my head. Vader's suit WAS a prison, and not made to be a top level fighting suit. Glad to see your comment, much better than I could have said it as well.
@cchavezjr7 yeah.. I love sci-fi lore an thought it odd. Stuff about this suit. Vader's other "choice" other then the suit was DIE.. not much a choice. An the points in lore when he said "screw this reality.." the Force itself said.. "your NOT getting off THAT easily..."
Found funny how he overlooked some the obvious.. an SO DID Sideous... he COULDA done things, discreet things, given his background, to slowly make the suit alot more tolerable, while keeping the Darkside power 2nd only to Palpatine at this point, an ESPECIALLY making his suit DISCREETLY to point it CAN take quite alot of Lightning or become totally impervious to it.. At that point Sideous would be in trouble.. so that thing bout Vader in classic form an suit here WASNT a guarantee either... he just didn't wanna consider the obvious
grevious and erza are my favorite star wars characters
"me"?
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He is my lisan al gaib
The words this guy can't pronounce are such a strange collection
Something that bugged me after reading some of the lore from the table top games and earlier lore from the expanded universe. Why didn't more people use CLONING tech? As you've stated in earlier vids, the Kaminoan weren't the only cloners but they were the best, and they were a known entity. Why didn't Grievous get cloned? Why didn't Anakin get himself cloned by his 501st subordinats? I know with Vader the force power diminished with more clones of the user being alive, but he could clone himself then relinquish to the clone?
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Maybe it's just me or if it's coincidental but doesn't Grevious and Revenant from Apex Legend have something in common? The persona, fighting tactics, etc
Hes my favorate
But Obi Wan beat Grevious with a blaster, technology disdained by the Jedi.
Depends on the Multiversal iteration. Remember, any mook horror show involving the Batman works out as long as we're talking the DCAU, Burtonverse Nolanverse, and Arkhamverse Batmen, NOT the 1966 and Schumacherverse Batmen.
Now, all we need is for certain works of fiction nowadays to openly pay homage more on Clone Wars 2003 and less on the Filoni stuff. Cultural victories matter a lot these days.
Dual sword is a bad thing in the eyes of the Jedi? since when and why?
In my life when stress is at the highest points it can get I start getting sleep paralysis it’s no joke I don’t get scared anymore but man it sucks iv learned to lower my stress so it hasn’t happened in years
This may be the autism/adhd talking but the only reason I like star wars is because I am fixated on General Grievous.
Thank you for still making grievous content to this day
Same boat here buddy. Grievous is awesome.
Maul and Grievous are superior to Vader and Palpatine
I've always had a HUGE problem with how the Jedi dealt with Grievous. It would be so mind-numbingly easy to destroy him with a simple telekinetic use of the force, that any average knight would be able to do so. The common counter-argument about not using the Force to attack is destroyed when you realize that, as this video states, the Jedi saw Grievous as an abomination, and not worthy of the respect that they would afford to a living being. They use the force on Droids endlessly in the Clone Wars, and this would be no different to them. It could even be argued as more justified and poetic to destroy Grievous with the very Force that he had turned his back on.
The only conclusion that can be reached is that the Jedi were determined to beat Grievous in the arena that he had chosen, to prove that their skills still surpassed mechanical analysis and augmentation. Whether you see that as a righteous judgement, or as pride-fueled gatekeeping of their martial techniques, the fact remains that the Jedi CHOSE to allow Grievous to slaughter billions of innocents, when they could have stopped him at ANY time, if they truly wanted to.
There’s another reason: Grievous was often on the front lines and even more often had droids around him. It’s difficult for Jedi to focus and center themselves while under fire and knowing Grievous is near, and most were unprepared for the Clone Wars though focusing on defending blaster bolts more than lightsaber combat.
There were few opportunities to confront Grievous alone. But you’re right in that the Jedi were hoping to beat him at his own game rather than let the Force flow through them
@@LordWyatt Agreed.
Wohh u said hes not all that complex . Hes extremely complex and unique a kashek warrior looked upnto by his clan hes a tactioun but runs when needs to better to survive than die his kashek heritage is complex . His family his feelings .NOW HE IS ABDARKSIDE HALF DROID BUILT BY THE POWER OF THE DARK SIDE HE IS A NON STOP KILLING MACHINE A CYBERNETIC NIGHTMARE WITH LIGHTSABERS AND ALL LIGHT SABER FORMS A HUSK HE FEELS NOTHING HE KILLS FOR JOY HE IS PAIN
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Another in a long line of brilliant ideas with terrible execution that Lucas SW is known for.
As a star wars fan I wish We had crossover comics or something the Covenant and Tau Empire Would feet' so well in Star Wars. And there's so many scenarios they could do with it
Could you imagine the UNSC Finding The rest of the galaxy😅 or Master Chief Being brought to the emperor, and i can Imagine the elites becoming vader new Fist
And the tau Would be pretty interesting That's a third faction in the clone wars but I think would most likely lose in the end
( But I know the emperor would love the technology they have It will be very useful to him )
If grievous had some parts of his body or if he was bio organic
( A mixture of machines and flash )
He would have been clapping the cheeks of every female jedi He gets his hands on , and surprisingly, that wouldn't be as dark as other things in Star Wars are
( General Grievous actually has a lot of children that are still alive, so there are many descendants of general grievous )
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