audient evo 4 - USB Audio Interface Review
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2020
- In today’s episode we have a look at and listen to the Audient evo 4 USB audio interface. What’s the use of an audio interface? It allows you to attach high quality XLR microphones and powered speakers/near-field monitors to your computer or tablet. In the case of the evo 4, this is an affordable audio interface with impressive preamplifiers and a feature set which will work very nicely for many people.
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Copyright 2020, Curtis Judd
Curtis!
I had to write you this evening because of the great job you did on your splash screen with Pro, Cons, and Conclusions.
I've been watching you for 2+ years now, and the breadth of the information makes your presentations valuable. Thanks so much much for your audio reviews! I grew up with AV equipment, and am now outfitting my own channel.
As a northerner of Northern decent, I much appreciate the quality of attention and honesty you give to the work you do!
Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much, Mardana!
Dear Curtis, I always come to you for the outstanding audio recording reviews and analysis. You have given me so many options, I've become confused, joking... you are blessed with that voice of yours too. Thanks a million for your help. Pete
Hahaha! Thanks Pete!
Went smashed the like, immediately after seeing that pleasant intro, and fluid graphic.
Thanks Venkat.
Absolutely great review, as always. You've been such an incredible help. I use an iD22 as my primary interface for VO work. Since I've really loved the Audient product, I gave this a try for a more portable option based on your review. I am incredibly impressed!
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Clear and informational review. Thanks, Curtis. I've added this to my B&H wishlist.
Thanks Todd. Hope you're doing well!
This is my first audio interface. I just plugged it in and am learning more about it. Thank you for the helpful information.
You're welcome and happy recording!
I keep going through your older videos -= picking the nuggets one after another ;)
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As usual, a bit of kit that I don’t need , but after watching your review I can barely stop myself from ordering one. You are dangerous. 😊
Sorry Chris. If you don't need it, don't buy it. Just here for your if you do find you need an audio interface in the future. 😀
I highly respect your technical knowledge and field expertise. I'll purchase a small sound card and EVO4 is one of the nominees. Your review is the most advanced and reliable on UA-cam.
Thanks Tevfik. Happy recording.
Curtis, I just wanted to mention that not only do you have obvious expertise in both lighting and sound, as well as make clear and informative videos with excellent production values, but I’ve noticed you’re LITERALLY THE BEST UA-cam video producer at responding to comments. Your response rate is basically unheard of, and that deserves recognition.
Thanks much, Eddie.
What an absolute BEAST!
Thank you, Curtis!
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Amazing review as usual. Have a good day Curtis. 😘
Thanks SJ, very much appreciate that and hope you are well!
Hey Curtis, first off thank you for your reviews and various videos - it's simply refreshing to see quality in-depth reviews in a sea of "reviewers" who are essentially spec-sheet readers fishing for clicks and money. This review itself literally has 3-4 times the info while being just 20-50% longer than other 10-13 min long EVO4 reviews - it felt like I was there next to you looking at the interface instead of being read a spec sheet. Keep doing what you're doing and stay legit!
I've never owned or used a proper (XLR) mic or an interface before, but am venturing into the live-streaming/podcasting space. I've done a lot of research and learning about mics/interfaces in the past 2 weeks (includes binge watching a bunch of your videos) but have a couple of unanswered questions, so I hope you don't mind me asking (thanks in advance if you do answer =):
- You mention -87dB RMS is pretty low self-noise. What's the typical RMS of a more expensive interface (say $200-400) and how audible is that difference?
- I know this is a budget device but how does it sound with higher-end mics? Specifically, I've ordered the EVO4 with a DPA 4060 lav. Is that a terrible idea? (like will a really good mic highlight the flaws of going with a budget device)
- What's the reason behind streaming levels being quieter than recording?
Hey Loaf Rocket, Thanks! Even the pro devices will have self-noise in the same range or perhaps down into the 90s RMS. This is very good for a $129 device. I get the impression that Audient put their focus on audio quality with evo. I don't know how much of an audiophile you are, but to my ear, the preamps were not flawed in any sort of substantial way. The only thing they don't provide is a LOT of gain - top out at +50dB. That'll be fine for any condenser including the DPA lavs. Streaming levels need to be hotter than if you're working in a workflow where you will be doing post processing before publishing the video. The reason is - you need your audience to be able to hear without having to crank the volume on their playback device, especially if they're listening in a poor acoustic environment.
In this video, I mentioned that dynamic microphones for live-streaming with evo could be problematic because the levels will be too quiet. Hope that clarifies!
@@curtisjudd That sounds promising, I have a sense of appreciation for good audio quality (what a revelation it was moving from $15 to $80 headphones a decade ago!) but have been more of a consumer than producer of sound - so thanks for answering my questions there! I ended up picking up the SSL2 yesterday as the place I ordered the EVO4 from isn't expecting stock for another 3 weeks - I got impatient =( I'll probably order the EVO4 with a cheaper condenser mic for a family member living somewhere else and give that a spin in a few months (?) when it's safe to travel again.
Looks like a good option when looking for a simple / good looking interface for your desk. I like the levels via led lights around the knob.
Agreed, nice, simple, easy to use.
Fantastic review Curtis :) Currently working on mine
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Everyone else who reviewed said that it has monster preamps and not require any cloudlifter, yet this guy tells us to get one LOL!!!!! You are the only reviewer who said that LOL!
*If you’re streaming live.
Beautiful review as always, Curtis! That Evo 4 looks great. I used many pro audio interface and I'm a big fan of Audient products. For my home basic pre-production works I use the iD4 and it's a lovely audio interface. As you said, for dynamic mics the input gain most of the time isn't enough, and the output level as well. Anyway, the audio quality is absolutely great and second to none at that price point. Cheers :)
Thanks Andrea, and especially for sharing your experience with the iD4. I'd like to give their higher-end interfaces a try as well.
@TomeoTV I find that the Shure SM7B, for example, needs about +60 to +62dB on my voice to get the levels peaking around -12dB. It is simply a microphone which needs a LOT of gain.
I'm constantly amazed that *anyone* would hit the dislike button on any of Curtis's videos. Nothing but clear, helpful, unbiased information delivered in a matter of fact, friendly tone - what's there to dislike about that?
I think some of them are hoping for a more entertaining experience from a younger dude or attractive young woman. 😂
@@curtisjudd Haha! Possibly! FWIW, I've been a big fan for years :)
@@HeliumContent Thanks for the support!
wish there was a review of this interface producing music/using vst plugins! thanks for the review Curtis might have to pick this up!
Thanks Jaime. Perhaps my daughter can do that review as she's much more of a musician.
Curtis Judd that would be awesome I’m in the market for a new interface!
@@STUDIO-514 Bandrew Scott does a review over on his channel which includes instrument recording, it might be what you are looking for. ua-cam.com/video/EwHIH3jIwuM/v-deo.html music recording starts at about 9:20
Thanks for the review. This one looks like a very good value for money audio interface.🍹👍
You're welcome 👍
Great review Curtis, thank you! I use the Audient iD14 and iD22 and I have found Audient manufactures excellent quality products. I am glad to see this legacy translates over to their lower priced items.
Except that the ID 14 and ID 22 have good quality Burr Brown Converters where is the EVO 4 uses budget automotive grade Converters.
Hi Kevin, thanks! Kyron is right that the converters are not quite the same level as the iD line, but still, quite impressive for the price.
At the end of the day you probably wouldn't hear much difference between any two audio interfaces. The ID series have Jfet instrument Inputs which might make a small difference with guitars. Here's another review
ua-cam.com/video/EwHIH3jIwuM/v-deo.html
Hugely helpful to know. Thanks so much Curtis! Wasn’t General Conference wow⁉️
Thanks Glen, yes, indeed!
I started watching this video and remembered how you often measure the noise floor of many different mics, preamps, interfaces, etc in Adobe Audition. Then i started thinking how anyone would measure the self noise of JUST the preamp….and then I got to 9:52 in the video :) now I need to go buy an XLR resistor! Thanx Curtis for your thorough review.
Thanks Marcus. 👍
Great technical review!
Thanks George!
You actually sound really good on the Vintage X2! You sound *really* good on it
Thanks Dracomies!
Sorry if I missed it, Curtis, but can you set separate output levels for both the headphones and balanced outs? Or are they unified?
In fact, you cannot use them at the same time. When you plug in headphones, the line outputs are muted. At that point, the volume control is for the headphones. Unplug the headphones and volume control is for the line outs.
@@curtisjudd Thanks! :)
Curtis - Great review and GUESS WHAT ( I guess they were paying attention) the EVO4 being sold now - from their site:
Mic Gain Range: 58dB
Line Gain Range: 58dB (-10dB pad) - Might be worth a quick update to the review. I may pic up one of these. Thanks again!!!
Nice, thanks!
After 10 years of using Line6 POD Studio UX1, I had to finally replace it with a modern interface, and settled for the extremely low-noise MOTU M2 to finally appreciate the condenser mic I'd had for some years. But what I've found is that those modern interfaces of today also have a very nice, clean output with excellent bass & treble response - clearly a step up from POD Studio, not to mention PC internal audio circuitry. Now it's really worth to get better headphones ;)
Congrats on the upgrade! It is amazing the quality money buys in audio interfaces in 2020.
Great review! The only thing, after you tested the quiet dynamic mic...I was hoping to hear how the FET booster helped.
Thanks. Ah yes, thanks for the suggestion.
Nice video Curtis! I’m looking at getting a new audio interface for my desk. I’m currently using the zoom h5 but with a mackie big knob that controls my monitor volume, but looking to combine the two for less desk real estate and pick up something like this. Also was looking at the Universal Audio arrow 2x4. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Griffin. The Arrow is definitely more of a premium option. I've been super happy with my UA Apollo. They take a while to update drivers - still waiting on official confirmation on macOS Catalina, but everything has been rock solid. The eve is more of a budget option, but pretty good given its price.
Curtis Judd thanks Curtis! Appreciate the info 🙏
I really wanted to like this audio interface. I really did. Unfortunately, my Macbook Pro, my PC rig and my work PC laptop kept 'forgetting' that the EVO 4 is a recording source. Everything is fine and dandy once I set everything up, but once I turn off my computer and reboot, all is forgotten. Sometimes the EVO 4 is recognized as a recording device but not as a speaker or vice versa. My only fix (and this was as of April 2021 before I returned it) was to reinstall the drivers each time I turned on my computer. I returned the EVO 4 and bought a Scarlett Solo instead. I really wanted to like the EVO 4. Thanks for your video!
Sorry to hear about the troubles. Interestingly, my daughter has been using the Evo 4 with her MacBook since we posted this a year ago without any issues. Must have been a faulty copy?
I was on another video for the Audient Evo 4 when I thought to myself "If only Curtis Judd reviewed this so I could get all the information on it and its use-case" and Bam i'm here now.
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Thanks for talking about the latency.
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Looks nice, might look at something in future as I have a rodeo mic and decent headphones. Old subscriber haven't replied for ages Nice to see the channel growing and all is well with you.
Thanks Speedy Gonzalez, good to hear from you and hope you're doing well!
Is there a loss in audio quality when using a USB-C to 3.5mm dongle? What about the iPhone lightning to 3.5mm dongle. This is a great channel! I’m glad I found it via Gerald Undone’s channel.
I think you are asking this in a general sense and not in the context of the evo 4? In a general sense, the digital to analogue adapters (USB-C to 3.5mm or Lightning to 3.5mm) have analogue to digital and digital to analogue converters in them. So the quality is completely dependent on the quality of the converters in the adapter and differs from adapter to adapter. One test I saw of Apple's lightning to 3.5mm adapter suggested that it was very slightly lower quality than when the iPhones had 3.5mm jacks. Almost an imperceptible difference. Not sure about the others.
Imperceptible is good enough! What about Apple’s USB-C to 3.5mm adapter for the iPad Pro. Would it be slightly better due to faster data transfer rates than the iPhone’s lightning connector? Or does that not matter and it goes back to the quality of the converter inside the adapter as u mentioned above. Thanks for helping myth bust this!!! 🙏🏽
Great video as always. I would like to connect my EVO 4 with the Atem mini. How Would you set it up? Also would you set the gain at EVO 4 or tweak it from the Atem mini?
Hi Jason - thanks for the question. I think you asked this on today's live stream? Here's an example using the RODECaster Pro. Process will be similar with the Evo 4: ua-cam.com/video/3yhwLUtyCOU/v-deo.html
Hi Curtis. Yet again another very comprehensive review. Just one question. You mention the quality of the plastic. Is it that somewhat grippy rubberised plastic? The reason that I ask is that I have had several cases of products with that finish going very sticky after only a few years. Some of the early Mamiya autofocus lenses were prone to doing that and more recently a Snark clip on musical instrument tuner did the same thing. It can be removed with meths, but that is a pain and can be tricky if there are crevices in the item, such as where buttons are positioned. Hope that isn't the case with this product as it looks very interesting.
Hi John, I don't know if it is the same material but I would guess that it is. Good to know that it can become sticky. Though this probably wouldn't be handled as much as a sense might - mainly just the buttons and knob would be touched on a regular basis. Not sure, we'll see how it goes over time.
@@curtisjudd Hi Curtis. Thanks for the reply. The lenses (and the instrument tuner) went sticky when I wasn't using them much. I think it's an issue of general ageing more so than handling. If equipment is changed every few years it probably won't be a problem, but if used for longer periods (or stored for a while before selling) it might be more likely to occur. Anyway, thanks for the response and the review.
Great review Curtis and I am very grateful.
Question:
Your reviews have helped me narrow down the final budget setup for our home office. The setup is for meetings, live online training, and indoor video recording.
We have settled on the following setup
-Audient EVO 4 USB Audio Interface
-Samson C02 microphones (or Behringer C-2)
-Sony ZV-E10 camera
We already had Samson Q2U microphones and Behringer U-PHORIA UMC204HD for podcasting and video recording.
From what I have learned from you, this budget office setup would do well. We do live near an airport and have a dog and kids who love playing outside.
Would you have any concerns or advice on how to improve on this?
If you can, I’d save up for better microphones. Something like an Audio Technica AT875r: ua-cam.com/video/8NknNRy2uXQ/v-deo.html
Thank you so much for the feedback@@curtisjudd. I will consider your recommendation. Highly appreciated.
Looks interesting, I love my Audient 4. Thanks for all the useful videos. I have a reverb-heavy office and the solution to this isn't pretty. Rode Lavalier and Zoom H2N setup the current go-to, but I'd rather swap to a mic I don't have to put on all the time. What are your current recommendations?
Sound blankets covering any hard flat surfaces off-camera is my #1 choice. Walls, floors, and even ceilings if you can. They can be put up just while recording if you can't install them more permanently.
@@curtisjudd I'm using dust sheets at the moment and it works, I should probably consider something actually made for the job though. Thanks! Any mic recommendations? I noticed you said a small-diaphragm condenser such as the NT5 can help with reverb, anything around £200-£300 you would suggest?
@@ATribeCalledCars The RODE NT5 can be a good choice. If the mic can be in the shot, the closer, the better to prevent reverb from getting into the mic. Also, dynamic microphones generally do better at avoiding room reflections, again, if they can be in the shot.
Looks pretty darn good for that price. In terms of durability I'd be more worried about those top-mounted buttons which often seem susceptible to dust over time. Only time will tell. One other miss is if you're a keyboardist, you'll always be chewing up another line-in. And, with this you just have the one (good for a guitarist, not so much for the keyboardist). I feel like this should be called the evo 2+ or evo 3 maybe, which is a similar complaint I have about many mixers. But again, that price--I paid 100 bucks more for my motu m4 to get the extra line-ins.
Makes sense. Thanks Jason!
Sounds pretty good overall, especially considering the price, but the +50 dB of gain clearly is not enough for live streaming based on your example so I will have to keep looking for an interface that is suitable for my needs.
True for dynamic mics, fine for condensers.
Wonderful review, Chris. One question - Can I use this interface with different laptops/PCs?
Yes, works with macOS or Windows.
Great review. Quick question. i have a samson q2u which is a dynamic xlr/usb mic. Would this interface make the mic sound better on my computer when on video calls or livestreaming?
Hi Drew, thanks. I don't have a Q2U on hand to test, but my experience with sub $100 USB mics is that they usually sound a bit smoother with an audio interface like the evo.
Good review on this device. I am looking for a simple quality usb audio interface for my computer. Did you get a chance to test the speaker outputs on this to what ever studio monitors you use?
Yes - worked great. The speaker outputs are line level and they did great. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Curtis, this may be a dumb question but can you choose what output the sound is being sent from, headphones or speakers?
@@jdrck When you plug in headphones, the line outputs are muted. Remove the headphone and the line outputs are enabled.
I have been looking for a small and inexpensive audio interface for home this week as I can't access my work office at the moment with the new lockdown in the UK, so this might be a good contender.
Yes, a contender indeed!
Thanks, Curtis, I might be needing one when I finally get out of the hospital (yes, I have some unexpected health issues which landed me here), though it happened just before the hospitalization, so I do not know whether my computer interface broke down or my headphones did.
Best wishes on a solid recovery!
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much.
Great video. Wonder what are the alternatives around the price range and is the evo4 recommended over the alternatives?
Hi Frank, I think the obvious competitors are the Focusrite Scarlet line, the Motu M2, and probably several others. I haven't spent a lot of time reviewing the entry level interfaces yet so I'm not sure - I'm coming from a Universal Audio Apollo so I was surprised at the quality packed into this $129 option. More to come.
@@curtisjudd Audient id4 and id14 are highly regarded in terms of build quality and matel finish but this one seems to be on a lower standard. Id4 is priced not much more than this.
@@frankluo230 And if one can afford the difference, I agree, looks like the iD4 would be a great choice.
Hi, Curtis, thanks for this review, how do you compare this device in terms of sound quality to M-Audio Air 192 4 ?
Hi, I haven’t used the M-Audio so not sure. Sorry about that.
Curtis, can I ask which interface would you recommend for the sm7b that doesnt require an additional cloudlifter?
Any of the Universal Audio Apollos generally provide enough (+65dB of gain). I'm sure there are others, but I've only had so much time to review.
Cheers, Curtis :) I have a related Audio Interface (AI) latency question.
I have a "high-spec bedroom" PC comp with a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Gen 2 AI. Very happy with it. When used with my music software, the dedicated Focusrite ASIO drivers get me down to about 512 sample buffer size delay. Serviceable, but noticeable (~22-24ms). I want it gone, and it seems to me that USB 2-3 is the bottleneck.
PCs are very slowly coming standard with Thunderbolt, but I'm looking into getting a Thunderbolt 3 AI, like the Universal Audio Apollo Twin X DUO 10x6. Have you had any experience with Thunderbolt AIs? Latency will probably always be a thing, but what kind of latency reduction would you expect from a Thunderbolt 3 AI?
With my Thunderbolt 3 UA Apollo x6, Logic Pro reports a 4ms output latency and a 13.5ms roundtrip latency when set to 128 samples on the I/O buffer. I'm using an iMac Pro.
13.5ms puts me in the ballpark for vocal foldback! (I'm not holding you to these values, naturally, but this is good info). Thanks for that :)
How does the Audio compare between the Evo 4 and the MixPre 3 II? I'm on the fence on which one to get. Price difference doesn't matter to me between the two. For location recording, I was thinking for the same or similar amount of money, I can get an Evo 4 + new laptop OR I can just a MixPre 3II? Would the MixPre 3 II still offer better audio quality from its preamps? Or is the Evo 4 preamps better than the Mixpre 3 II? I already got myself an MKH416 as my microphone. Planning to use it for cooking videos primarily if that matters. Thanks again for your great content!
Hi Fil Trans, yes, the MixPre would be my choice - it can supply a LOT more clean gain and also have analogue limiters in case the audio coming in gets a bit too loud.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis. Just ordered the MixPre. As always thanks for the advice and for answering every comment you get. You're a tremendous help to everyone.
@@filtrans8980 Congrats - I hope it works brilliantly for you! Happy recording!
Hi Curtis. Thanks for another insightful review. Wondering what you think the pros and cons are of my jerry-rigged setup -- a Rode NTG 4+ into a JuicedLink Riggy Assist RA333, with the out going into a Zoom H1n connected to a PC via USB to use in audio interface mode. Is thislikely to be markedly worse than buying a dedicated audio interface such as the EVO 4 or Motu M2 (I'm just trying to utilize the gear I have). Appreciate your advice. Dex
Hi Dex, if it is working and you're happy with the results, I don't see a need to change it. It probably requires more time to get everything setup and calibrated (e.g., gain on the Riggy, input level on the H1n) but if you've got a workflow which doesn't make that problematic, then I'd stick with it. Best wishes!
Curtis Judd thank you, sir. Appreciate it - good to know it’s not a totally idiotic idea!
Thank you for this excellent video. Are you aware of a similar device in this price and quality range that would enable you to output to a camera like the Sony A6400 (rather than computer)? Or, at least one that is in the $200-400 range
Hi Chad, You could use this with an attenuator cable but that would be a bit of a complex setup. Perhaps a Tascam DR-60DmkII or Zoom H6? Their preamps aren't quite as good as the Evo, but they're made to feed the audio to camera and with a good condenser microphone, they difference will be difficult for anyone to hear.
Curtis, what what wireless lavalier would you choose? For really best voice.
And which one do you have currently? Thank you!!!
Hi Cars & Engineering - oh I have a lot of them! It depends on your budget. I have a $5000 USD pro system called the Audio Ltd A10 which is the best I've used. But there are also some more consumer oriented options like the RODE Wireless GO for about $200.
@@curtisjudd thank you, Curtis. In your opinion is it better to record audio and video separately? A lot of professionals do that
Question on the Stellar X2 Vintage - is that your main mic? It sounds awesome! I think it fits your voice perfectly. How much of a distance do you put between the mic and your mouth for that mic? Hard to tell at the angle from the video. Thanks!
Hi Shravan, I have a lot of mics as I mainly do microphone and other audio gear reviews, but I agree, it is a pretty good fit for my particular voice. In this video it is about 5 - 6 inches from my mouth. Thanks so much!
@@curtisjudd Thank you! Will you be doing a full video review of the Stellar? I think we'd all be interested in your views on it, especially considering the price point! Stay safe!
@@Shrave Thanks! Yes, working on a "Voice-over Microphones" episode for the near future. The TZAudio will definitely have a spot in that. 😀
Oh, that’s perfect! I was just getting back into wanting to do voice over so I hope the vid comes out before I make my decision :)
By the way, I was following the channel 3 or 4 years ago, I’m so glad that you’re still going at it :)
Hello, I just subscribed, the review seems very interesting to me. I have a couple of doubts. I am a journalist and I want to start in the podcast world, the EVO 4 seems like an interesting interface and within my budget.
My idea is to do face-to-face interviews, so I need two microphones. If I want to do them in a controlled noise space as a room, what microphones would you recommend me considering what you explained about the gain of the SM7-B?
The phantom power that is supposed to be included in the EVO 4 would not help the SM7-B to have more gain?
Hi nicolz72, The Shure SM58 would be an affordable, quality choice to go with the evo 4 and a laptop. Phantom power does not increase the levels for dynamic microphones like the SM7B of SM58. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the reply. What do you think of the Rode Podmic? It is a good option for podcasting or you still prefer in that case the Shure SM58?
Ah nice yeah I have an H6 and i love the plastic on it. So cool this thing feels a bit like an H6.
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Yeah especially on the bottum. The battery lid and stuff. It's real smooth and glosy if you will. It reminds me of a clock we use to have in the 90s. You know the some what bigish wall clocks. But yeah it's a cool plastic. Blends well with the aluminum that's on the part where the mixer nobs are.
Thank you for the information, have you tried the Motu M2? If you have, which one would you pick over the other and why? I was thinking about getting the Motu M2, but this one sounds like I'd like this one also. Great video, awesome sound :-)
Hi 2nd Time Tech! I haven't tried the Motu M2, unfortunately. But I hope to before too long!
Have you considered the SSL2?
@@curtisjudd, thank you for letting me know. Keep well and stay safe...
@@Dracomies, no I have not. I will check into that one, thanks. Stay safe and keep well...
Hello first of all thank you so much for the review and the hard work well appreciated....
I am a guitarist If I buy I want to strictly use as an interface for guitar electric guitar... My doubt is will it give a good an crisp sound like a professional if I use this interface?
Hmm, not sure. I think Podcastage reviewed this and he’s a guitarist so you might check his review.
I used own an Audient iD22 interface. I paid £600 for one at launch, around four weeks later they dropped the price to £400 which annoyed me GREATLY. My unit then died after three years of very light use. They quoted a repair cost which was half the cost of a new unit (to which I declined). Bit of a rant, but worth noting for anyone thinking about buying into Audient products.
Hi 1991ClarkJames, thanks for sharing your experience with the iD22. Good to know!
Hi Curtis, I’m using an external mic for my Microsoft Teams meetings at work - Samson q2u with a behringer u-phoria UMC22 and a FetHead. I understand that teams suppresses audio quality somewhat but wondered if I could improve my sound quality using the EVO 4?
Hi Ian, no, probably not much of a difference, to be honest.
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis.
I currently have a Focusrite Solo 3rd Gen and when I go live on FB or just record in Quicktime the sound only comes out the left side. I understand that this happens due to the Focusrite Solo considers input 1 (XLR) to be the left channel and the other input (1/4 inch) to be the right channel. Now this would be an easy fix in post with any DAW because I can render the final output in Mono but because podcasts shows are all live and I dont have the option to fix in post. Therefor every time I go live on Facebook I get stuck with the audio only coming out of the left side/channel as I only have the mic in input 1 (XLR). So my question is how do I get the output audio (from the Focusrite Solo) from my live show (on a Facebook live) to output on the right and left side? Currently when I go live on FB the audio only comes out from the left side
This is a software configuration issue, I believe. Facebook should be able to take a stereo mix from any audio interface, though I don't stream to Facebook so I don't know the particulars. And if not, it could be a configuration in your OS or in the Focusrite app. But it should not be a hardware limitation, even on the Focusrite.
Hi Curtis, did you notice frequency noise issues? Seems like I’m getting some sort of interference sound. I’ve tried moving it around and different rooms. Sometimes it disappears, but for the most part it’s there.
Wondering if that’s normal given the fact I have to crank the gain to work with a podmic?
Thanks in advance!
Hi. I assume you mean Radio Frequency interference? I was only able to create RF interference by literally setting my phone on top of the Evo 4 with all of the radios running, a video streaming on the phone. But as soon as I move the phone an inch away, the interference disappeared. Often the cable is the source of these things so you might try to swap out cables. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd thx Curtis! I’ve narrowed it for and it’s definitely rfi/emi static. With the mics unplugged I still get the interference and as I move the evo4 around on my desk I have to find a spot where it stops.
It’s a great unit when there’s no interference! Lol
@@AtomicPixel Sounds like something isn't quite right with that copy or you've got a TON of RF or EMI in your space there. Might be worth contacting Audient support. Best of luck.
@@curtisjudd thx Curtis! Always helpful to hear feedback from a pro!
Hi Curtis! I bought a mixpre 3 ii. I will like to know wish battery and adapter is best under $100 and if does fit well with the Orca OR-28 mini audio bag?
Thanks!!
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Great review!!
What should i choose?
The price here in Sweden is 15 dollar between EVO 4 and ID4 Mkii (more expensive).
- I have Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250Ohm headphones, AKG D5 microphone and Edifier 1855DB speakers. I want the device to drive them all for gaming, listening to music and watching videos.
- I want to switch audio source between Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro and Edifier 1855DB easy, which one is the best for that?
- I want to drive my AKG D5 microphone to a good level without having to go 90-100 % gain.
- Can you mute/unmute microphone quickly on iD4 Mkii? How do you do it?
I want to say id4 but I haven’t worked with that one. Booth Junkie might have more to say since he works with Audient interfaces regularly.
@@curtisjudd Thank you for the answer! Will check with him😃
Curtis, two things.
1) please, add a more targeted Playlist. you're one playlist about audio is too large to be practical for navigation. Add a playlist that targets concepts, separate from device reviews.
2) I want to record voice for YT videos. I don't really want to spend more than $100 on the mic. can you recommend a mic for an amateur in an untreated, and noisy, room? I was looking at the BEHRINGER XM8500, this v7, and the AKG D5 just based on some vids and comments i seen.
Hi Layarion, Thanks. 1) Good idea. I do this channel as a hobby when not working my day job. Will add it to the list, but not sure how long it will take to get to it. 2) I saw your comment about dynamic vs. condenser mics on another video. I have found that the typical microphone technique with dynamic microphones - talking up very close to the capsule - produces the best signal to noise ratio and thus the best performance in noisy rooms. I do not have first-hand experience with the microphones you listed. However, if you truly have screaming kids and TV running in the background, you might consider using a dynamic headset microphone like the Audio-Technica BPHS1. Also, microphone placement will help as well. Inasmuch as possible, position the rear of the microphone - the null point in its polar pattern - toward the noise sources. That will also help to maximize the signal to noise. Best wishes.
Curtis, which interface do you recommend for the Shure SM7B?
Hi Pabula, that depends on the budget as well as how many inputs you need an whether you need DPS features. For less than $200, the MOTU M2 is worth a look.
as you mention the headphone amp is really good, what if I use high sensitive IEM? Will lowest volume contain a lot noise/too loud ? Thanks.(it's out of stock every where...)
I guess it depends on the IEM...I would think it would be fine.
I have been using a Scarlett 2i2 second ben. How do you think this would compare?
Hi Thane, good question. I don't have a 2i2 on hand to compare head-to-head, but I suspect they're in the same league with trade-offs for each.
I'm a little behind on the sophistication of my setup. I use an analog mixer (no USB interface), and record using OBS. I'm plagued by hiss, and routing problems. Your video is giving me ideas. In your video I don't get how the Skype call gets from your PC to the recording device. I'd like to know.
The evo 4 is a USB audio interface.
What is take on XLR to usb adapters cable/adapter?
Roland Black Series USB Type-A Male to XLR Female Cable
Shure X2u - XLR to USB Microphone Signal Adapter
do those adapter do their job for connecting xlr mic to usb for recording / streaming audio on a computer?
They do the job, yes. I haven't used those particular adapters so I cannot speak to their quality, but they work! Best wishes!
Hi Curtis! So if I'm only gonna be recording vocals or guitar on sm7B or an sm57, it will provide enough gain. The only time I'm gonna have a problem is during a live stream. Is that correct?
It depends. Just be prepared to add a cloud lifter or fethead. Depends on how loud your voice is and how close you work to the microphone, and how loud you need your audio to be.
@@curtisjudd Thanks Curtis! I just looked at the review of Arturia Mini Fuse 2 and I think it provides more gain than the EVO (50 dBFS as compared to EVO's 41.4 dBFS as per Julian Krause's review for the both) I might go for the Mini Fuse 2 just to be on the safer side. Thank you!
@@sandeshkc8602 Good luck and happy recording!
I know that you don't particularly like the H4N pro, but do you know if the new black version is any different in practice? According to the specs the new version has a 7db larger input gain range but otherwise I can't find any differences
Hi xWood4000, The specs tell an interesting story. They say the max gain is +43dB which is probably enough for most condenser microphones but probably not enough for most dynamic microphones. However, they also cite equivalent input noise - EIN - of -120dB which is quite good. I haven't used the new black edition yet, but if your workflow is not for live-streaming and you can boost the audio in post, the black edition looks to be the best H4n yet. But again, I haven't used it so I'm not sure how that translates in real-world use.
@@curtisjudd Thank you! Yes, the latency for live streaming would probably be problematic
Curtis, I heard from an amazon review that, you can't use the inputs on this if you're OS is using something like Bluetooth headphones as an output. They said the Evo *must* be the output device for it's input to work. This would suck for me, because I use the Arctis 7, a USB wireless headset. Can you confirm this?
On macOS, I was able to choose independent input and output sources so it does not appear to be a problem on Mojave. Not sure about Windows.
Need help, just received the evo 4... can only hear Mic or guitar on one side of the headphone (whether I use a daw with recording on mono or without using any daw for that matter ) I do get the sound from the computer (while playing some audio) on the other side of the headphone when I turn the knob to the right with the mix button but the point is that my input Mic or guitar can only be heard on one side of my headphone. Am I missing something here
Check the pan setting - press the pan button then adjust the big knob until pan is at center.
Hi, can the Evo 4 connects to an android phone via the USB-C and use phone apps like Open Camera or any singing apps to make a recording?
I don’t think so but contact Audient support to confirm.
Just wondering Curtis, how does this pair up if I were to go for a MixPre III for use with a BMPCC6K? Would either product render the other obsolete?
The MixPre can be used as a USB audio interface or field recorder/preamp for the P6K. The evo 4 is really made to be a USB interface. You *might be able to rig it up for the P6K but it'd be clumsy at best.
@@curtisjudd Thanks a lot!
Wait did you use an NT1 on the F6 demo? Because that too would give me an idea of how good it is. It's not too much different from the 1-A. It's just like I said missing some of the brightness. But yeah even hearing an NT1 would give an idea of the quality of the recorder.
No, just got the NT1 about 2 weeks ago. Love it so far.
@@curtisjudd Ah cool. Can't wait to hear it in future demos.
If you want to use an IEM with a 3.5mm jack, do you need an adaptor?
Yes
I do want to use a Dynamic Mic that requires a lot of gain - the one you used the Electro Voice RE20 - so what Audio Interface and drive that?
Universal Audio Apollo can drive that. Or you could use one of the less expensive interfaces like this and use a fethead to add additional gain.
you think this would be good enough for voice actor/audio narrator work?
Yes, with a good condenser microphone.
Do you think it can provide enough gain for something like a Rode NTG-2?
Yes.
should i get this one or the motu m2 ?
I'd get the M2, personally.
At the under $700 range, is there any other audio interface you could recommend that has better sounding preamps than the Evo 4? Or does the Evo 4 already have the best sounding preamps despite it's affordability at the up to $700 price range?
I'd personally opt for a Universal Audio Apollo if you have a budget of $700.
@@curtisjudd Got it! Thanks for the advice!
For someone who wishes to _not_ have to sync audio in post, can we: rout sound thru this Evo, _then_ directly into an Atomos Shogun 7 Recorder? Sorry, beginner just starting out here!
Hi Glen, it could be done with some adapter cables and a separate USB power source but not really a natural fit. Thanks for the question!
Curtis Judd Thanks so much!
What fathead or cloudfilter did you use in this video ?
I didn't use one for most of this video when using a condenser microphone, but if I were using a mic like the SM7B, I'd use the Fethead.
Any advantage(s) of using this over a Zoom H5 or H6 as an audio interface?
Better audio quality.
Better ergonomics for Audio Interface use, better converters and arguably better preamplifiers. Definitely better headphone amplifier. And USB-C output if that is important to you. But the evo 4 is not a good field recorder and has no in-built microphones.
@@curtisjudd Is there a lot of latency on the H5 in comparison to the audient?
Can you use the evo as a mic interface connected to a dslr and power it with a power bank or usb brick?
I didn't have any luck when I tried.
Tnx for the quick reply.
I just got an EVO 4 and I'm wondering if my unit happens to be defective because unlike yours, I'm picking up a crazy amount of interference. Interference from my phone, interference from being near my computer, and the most egregious of them all is interference from my WiFI router causing the loudest interference i've ever heard. This doesn't happen with a separate USB device I have (that happens to have a metal chassis, so maybe that has something to do with it).
Hi Life of PD, I'd suggest you get in touch with Audient support. That sounds like there's a problem with that copy.
@@curtisjudd Yeah, I’ll be in touch with them. Glad I saw your video covered RFI. Most of the videos I’ve seen didn’t talk about it barring maybe 2 others and folks seem to not be having issues with it.
My EVO4 interface started malfunctioning but no response after several complaint on Audient site.
That's disappointing. Thanks for sharing.
What should i buy?.Evo 4 or Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
Need more info. Which mics will you use? Are you recording? Streaming? Driving monitors?
@@curtisjudd I am recording and dubbing videos
@@kaveenhansana1569 If you are going to use a dynamic microphone, you may need a cloud lifter or fethead with either of these interfaces. They're both decent.
Hi Curtis! I bought the EVO4 3 months ago for my Rode M3 and Rode Procaster and agree: nice PreAmps. BUT… Even I don't change anything it quite often happens that the EVO4 is receiving signals from the mics (the LEDs around the knob are flashing) BUT - no signal to the computer/Mac and I don't see any reason why. Even "restarting" the EVO4 doesn't solve the issue. You don't see the status of the EVO4 and now which button to push to get it done what you want it to do. Also smart gain might be nice but doing again and again after restarting is a bit annoying when you just wonna work. So for me I start to hate this tool. You never had these issues?
So my conclusion is to kick it from my desk and get an interface with buttons and status LEDs like the a MixPre or a Scarlett 2i2.
So I wanted to ask you if you never had these kind of issues and really like the EVO4?
Hi! I haven't had the issues with the evo 4 not sending audio to or from my Mac. It sounds like maybe an intermittent connection issue - maybe the cable or one of the ports? Probably best to contact Adient support on that if you haven't already. This is a budget interface, so I do think it is important for people to understand that it does not have all the features or conveniences of more expensive options like Audient's iD interfaces or a MixPre. It sounds like you use your interface quite often and in that case, yes, I'd look at more expensive, more capable options. Best wishes!
@@curtisjudd Hi Curtis! Thanks for your quick response. I can be sure that's no connection issue - seems to be in internal setting of the device that's why I asked if you have same issues. I already checked your tests and opinions concerning other devices :) All the best for you.
Is the gain enough for the Procaster or does the Evo 4 require a Fethead or similar?
@@benediktpackmohr1413 I used a Fethead - but I also kicked out the EVO4 already and replaced with an M-Audio 192|14
@@frubo_ssg Thanks. I could have an Air 6 for 20 euros more than the Evo 4, so maybe that's the way to go...
Ah yeah for pre-amp tests Neal uses an old Electro Voice RE 635. It's an omni Dynamic mic. Then of couurse my fave. He uses the Rode NT1-A.
I found a new mic I like for my voice even better than the NT1A - it is the newer RODE NT1.
@@curtisjudd Oh yes the new NT1. How do you like it? The thing that's the selling point with it is that it's more balanced. It's not as sivelant or bright as the A was. But I for 1 loved that brightness to the NT1-A. But I understand that it was too bright for a lot of people. I still would love a stereo matched pair. Or would say go for 2 of the new ones though they don't sell them factory matched?
@@MrHamit64 If you like that brightness, then I think the NT1A is the microphone for you!
@@curtisjudd Ah okay. Yeah also you can get them factory matched for Stereo pairing.
@@MrHamit64 what about lewitt ltc440 pure
would it be an improvement to use this with the SHP9500 and maono au-pm422? (price in mind)
The biggest improvements come from the microphone, placing the microphone optimally, and recording in a good acoustical space. Audio interface comes in after those, in my experience.
@@curtisjudd would an amp/dac work better?
@@katherine-oh3rt I'm a bit confused at what you are trying to accomplish. A headphone amp/DAC is for listening. Are you trying to record to your computer or listen to audio from your computer?
@@curtisjudd oh, I'm trying to listen. I didn't realize the difference.
@@katherine-oh3rt Oh, yes, a DAC probably makes more sense than this. This is made primarily to record to your computer and, as a bonus, has a headphone DAC. But you'll get more for your money with a dedicated DAC, I'd think.
First!!!
Congrats MrHeng! Hope you’re doing well!
Curtis Judd , my students usually do that comment to me. Since I’m your audio student, I figured I’d do it to you. 😂😂😂
I’m doing great. Just focusing all my efforts into teaching video editing software so that my students can do their projects from home.
I’m glad to see you’re doing well yourself and your family too. This year, I am more serious about becoming better at audio. Like, technical and more nerdy stuff, and actually getting into the numbers instead of just trusting my ears.
I literally only test audio playback with my iMac, MacBook Pro, iPhone, and AirPods because that’s what I think most people will use to listen. Just the popular Apple products. I do read the meters, but never took averages on my overall output levels.
Like that TV show “Kung Fu, the legend continues.” My slogan is, “Mr. Heng, the learning continues.” 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahahaha! Nothing beats education!
Been holding out for the 8 but damn CORONA surely pushed it back a long way.
Yes, seems to have slowed a lot of manufacturing.
Curtis Judd do you have the ability to see if the Evo 4 can connect to iPad? This will make great semi portable interface.
Hello again
Do you accept and approve of this view? The sound card has no effect on the output quality. The only effect of the sound card is that it helps you in analog to digital conversion.
I do not accept of this view. It has less effect than a microphone in most cases, but still often has an effect. The preamp and converter(s) impart a sound and noise profile.
Hi Curtis, is it really 50dB Gain only? The spec sheet says 58dB.What is correct? Best regards Gert evo.audio/products/evo-4/specs/
It is a range of 58dB with the max setting being +50 dB.
can we use it for filmmaking?
Yes, for voice-over, live-streaming, and certainly for post production/edit/mix purposes. But probably not the best choice for production recording work.
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much. 👍
I know the evo is a new product and whatnot, but output feels better from an ID4 and if you don't need automatic gain, I see no reason to use this over an ID-series USB interface.
I think budget is the main factor. This one is made for those on a very tight budget or perhaps as a secondary, mobile interface.