Crazy $99 Preamp Does it All! Arylic BP50 Review
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Nice review. Nobsound 5.1 review? Seems to offer decent value for £190.
i wanna add hdmi arc to my ayima d03 for which you are responsible 😁
would you? i hate futzing with multiple remotes you see🤷🏻♂️
thank you🙏🏼
p.s. that video with darko was a peach👏🏼
Newbie needs to know what dac between wiim mini and denon 760 connected optically would you suggest thx
Great Review Randy!!! Video resolution looks Amazing! 👍👍👍
Thank you so much for reviewing this, Randy. I bought one for $80 long before Prime Deal Days, so I assume this thing will be on sale frequently. I got it without having a use for it, but like you said, it’s kind of a catch-all device that is handy to have around. You never know when it could service a need. I also have a Fosi BT20A that is unused, so I think they’d be good friends down the road. I really appreciate that you didn’t just phone in your take on this device. Considering its versatility (great dorm room AIO) and the remote, PLUS a thoughtfully designed app, I really feel like this could cost more. It’s like a landlord who doesn’t know they could be charging twice as much, but you never bring it up.
BTW, their tech/rep folks have been surprisingly responsive. Big props for that.
Finally, during your sponsor segment, there was a moment where you were giving off Bill Pullman vibes during his speech toward the end of Independence Day. _”We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive. We’re going to enjoy quality bluetooth speakers!”_
Funny - I’m pairing a BP50 and BT20A Pro in the living room with Definitive Tech BP-8 speakers. It’s decent.
I do feel that if I had it to do over again I’d pay the premium for something better, but give that these were $80 a piece and I bought them over time it’s pretty impressive. HDMI arc is MUCH better than Bluetooth (the Bluetooth connection is pretty terrible).
Cool, I always end up mixing new tech with old, surprising what you come up with when you have to, Thanks again for cool option ideas!
Thanks for the review, Randy! I bought a BP50 about a month ago and it has been serving me well. For my use case, I needed something that would allow me to connect my work Macbook and my personal gaming PC to my system. I really wanted a preamp that could handle multiple digital inputs, and had a sub-out. Bluetooth RX/TX is a bonus that I didn't realize I needed, but it sure comes in handy when I don't have to keep swapping my BT connection between computers. My desk setup consists of the BP50, a Fosi V3 powering a pair of KEF HTS3001SE speakers and the matching HTB2 sub. My home office has never sounded so nice!
I do notice the popping issue if the system has been running for a bit and I flip the power switch. My workaround is to put in standby first if I need to power cycle (sometimes my Mac doesn't want to recognize the USB connection). Either hit the power button on the remote or push and hold the volume dial and the STBY indicator will turn red. Then flip the switch. Not as easy or convenient, but it works, and NO pops.
Nice and honest review of this product. This might be the solution to connect a TV with only an HDMI output to a vintage receiver in a basement. I tried all kind of HDMI/ARC to analog converters with no results, just humming and no sound, I switched receivers with the same results. I'll wait for a sale and get it. Thank you.
Thank you for the pop warning/info!
What up Cheap....thanks for this review. I need to build a cheap set up for my garage shop. It's far too hot during the summer here in AZ, but the weather is breaking, Finally!! and it's time to get the shop in order. I think this fits the bill. Dig it! Thanks! The word you were looking for it: Paquito, as in "muy paquito Senior" (very small or little Sir).
200k subscribers ! Good Job Cheap Audio man 👈
Thanks CAM! I struggled to find a media console cabinet to fit all our AV gear, including the center channel speaker. Most cabinets are simply not deep enough for full scale AV receivers. It took mods to make a Wayfair cabinet work. This Arylic unit could help bring an old Denon UD-M30 CD Receiver in the closet back to life!
most consumer media consoles are all to shallow. check out Pangea for stereo racks. I was just telling someone they need to make real AV consoles because of this problem. I've had to cut the back out of some
Yes, once you add in the length of the cables plugged in, cutting out the back is about the only option to make gear fit. Our cabinet is up against an open railing in a split level stairwell for all the world to see. I had to stain the back to make it look presentable and created a french cleat door to hang over the open cut out I made, so no cables show. The cool thing it is so easy to get access to the connectors! No need to pull out the receiver (except to dust - yeah right lol) @@cheapaudioman
Great review Randy, as always 🤘 I was getting a bit hyped when this product started popping up, but it just does too much. I really want something with a acceptable DAC, 1-2 RCA inputs, optical in and with the footprint of a Fosi Audio Class D amp... closest to that is the Wiim Pro I guess 😅
Hi, there are 3 importants rulles.
1. when powering on gear first will be preamp/streammer and last will be the amp.
2. shutting down gear:first power off amplifier.
3. never unplug or plug in anything with gear powered on.
Bonus: tv must be completely powered off(not standby) when plugging or unplugging hdmy to any gear.
Regards
I have the BP50 for about a month now. For the money it is a great device. I like the multiple connection options. Despite a little pop every now and then when switching on/off or changing inputs it works flawlessly with a good sound quality.
If you're looking for a small pre-amp with enough options I definitely reccoment the BP50
Nice job, Randy.
Thanks!
Thx Randy! Here's a new budget TV DAC killer - SMSL PS100 for just $30! Has HDMI ARC, SPDIF, COAX, USB-C, Blutooth inputs and SE RCAs for output. Uses the same Sabre ES9023 DAC chip, but people have reviewed it pretty well so far. I'm ordering mine today, just released in August this year. From what I hear it supports adjusting volume through HDMI ARC on it, must have some preamp functionality than, no remote though. I'm planning to pair it with SMSL AO100 AMP for $78 (used from Amazon) that has a remote as well and enough power to drive 2 passive speakers for a TV, also has subwoofer outputs and uses an Infineon Power amp chip! Pretty excited, this would be a perfect TV DAC for cheapaudioman to review ;)
I'm ordering one now
I've had that one for a while and it's great.
WOAH this is exactly what I've been wishing for!!! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much 😊
I like the review on this device, (question) can you do a shootout comparison with similar products, slightly above and slightly below for a side by side comparison. I'm making a shopping list for Black Friday and Cyber Monday and a couple of Cheapaudioman shootouts would definitely be appreciated by myself and I think many of your followers. I'll be watching for more like this one. It's one of the items on my list, I passed on it during the last sale, still looking at other options, your reviews helped me a lot. Most other UA-cam videos are for high end equipment only, which is fine and I watch them also, but most of the time, what they are reviewing is out of my and many of my friends budget. And one more request, can you suggest a 2.0 or 2.1 system for about $300 that sounds okay, and maybe a better system for $500,or just under $1000 with different components to pick from. Just a request. Thanks again for all you do.
Good stuff, sad that sith audio couldn’t sponsor the vid but I guess Anker is fine whatever, thanks as always Randy!!!
I'm really looking forward to hearing the review for those Arendal speakers, I wonder how they compare to the Buchardt you reviewed.
Just so I understand, this unit is the cheaper cousin of the Emotiva XDA-3? Thanks for the live installation and introduction to this product. Really interesting kit for fun times next year. Thanks for your time and efforts, as always. Take care, Sir.
Thanks Randy.. your reviews are always a treat to watch full of details... I have a question, between Arylic BP50, Aiyima T2 and Aiyima T8 which one is better as a clean and detailed sounding preamp for my Edifier MR2 speakers? I will be really grateful if you kindly reply me... Thank you very very 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great review! 😊 What about using the HDMI input with the OPTICAL output with a great external DAC like the Topping E50 ?
I really would like to be able to use only the TV remote for volume control!
Why not just get a universal remote which will be cheaper
@@tchernob thx for the suggestion. I already got one and would prefer not having to use one.
@@1337sim1 is there any particular reason?
I do hate seeing you getting blown up at the beginning of the videos, but it is a pretty cool effect.
Got one for 78 bucks a couple weeks ago. I like it.
Thanks Randy
Great vid as always, small correction, it supports just ARC not eARC.
I’ve been looking at this to possibly add a subwoofer to my powered monitors that don’t have a sub out. I’d just use it for all component inputs and volume
If you have a Hisense TV, HDMI to optical out is a lifesaver. The TV suffers from a “tinny” issue when you optical out in stereo/PCM. Plus, only options I know of like this with HDMI for stereo are the Blusound node and McIntosh with D2 add on.
A premap, you say?
Thanks for the great vids and congrats on 200k subs!
COM- great podcast! I’m intrigued as to whether this would benefit by second system that centers on a 1974 Pioneer SX737 receiver that drives Wharfedale EVO 4.2s. 99% using Sonos Port via Aux. Old Turntable is in Phono and Cassette deck (never used) in Tape 1 and LG TV (0.5%) in Tape 2. Problem is volume control from the couch. I can use SONOS phone app to control its volume. If I got the Acrylic and connected the turntable and Sonos to it, then Acrylic to the SX737 AUX, w/ remote I’d have more volume control, tone controls, some EQ. And I get the option of adding a SUB (have SB-1000Pro destined to be sold, if I could find a place to put it)! Other than $80-100 spend see any downsides? Can’t use eArc since my LG is connected to AVR that runs the HT setup that is side by side in the same room (maybe the TV Optical out to the Acrylic, if the TV doesn't object)???
Agree I use this in the bedroom for a second system. I had this with my main system with Klipsch towers and sub for a week just could not get it to sound good bass specifically.
What about as just a pre-amp? Gishelli DAC to the BP50 to a Schiit Vidar? There aren't many cheap preamps.🤔
Thanks for a great channel.
I have a couple of questions.
What are your thoughts on geting this Arylic BP50 with SMSL A300 or the Fosi Audio V3, which one of these two?
My plan is then to connect it to a bluesound node (2018 model) or buying a wiim pro.
Perhaps also getting smsl su-1 for the streamer.
I would love to get some feedback on which of the above you would recommend.
I have the B50 (amplified version) in my game room and it's....ok-ish? It's connected to my TV via HDMI ARC and it powers on and takes over the sound output like it should MOST of the time. Sometimes you have to wake it up manually and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. The sound from a Bluetooth source is absolutely fine, and it drives my old Paradigm Phantoms with no issue. In the end it seems like a product that you're going to have to fiddle with to get it to do what you want. Fine for my game room, but I wouldn't depend on it as a foolproof solution for my living room where my wife and kid just expect it to work perfectly every time.
Seems like they have to tweak this a bit... I hope they work on the software, the popping issue and they include a coxial in (most cd transports use coaxial) and trigger in/out so it can work with more gear. Maybe a bp50 pro will come out in the future. And then it+su1+wiim mini+ fosi v3 and you're done! 😀
I had this paired with an AL200 to add sub out and earc. It worked ok, but often would loose all line out signal until it was rebooted. Also the popping on power down was there and annoying.
I replaced both units with an AO300 that has worked flawlessly since.
Bp50, almost a great product but held back by bugs.
Thanks for the great review. I have a question and would appreciate it if you or someone else could answer it. Is it possible to connect the TV to the B50 via Optical and then connect the soundbar to the B50 via HDMI eARC to output the sound to the soundbar? I know I could connect it directly, but I just want to connect all the devices to the B50 so sound could go out to soundbar.
Will you review the new SMSL AO300 ?
Looks like a great cheap all in one!
I second that! Is it worth the $289? SMSL has a good rep and the specs SOUND like they would "sound" good, do does it?
I have a Hisense 65 inch TV in my gaming room got it for 379$ at Costco. A killer deal. Have been surprised how good it is for that price.
I'm wondering if the bass management includes a high pass filter option on the analog out.
I didn't see one. just low pass for the sub
Thanks for the review. Thought…how about posting your components you’ve used with each new review product.
I discussed them in the video but I can definitely make a list in the description
Hi, Can the Arylic BT transmit to 2 BT equipment together? EArc with Atmos decoder?
Before watching this, I ordered one of these to SPDIF teather it to my car audio MiniDSP which can mix any / all inputs including analog with digital.
This allows me to bypass my head unit chain which is Looooong... (Head Unit - Digital - Bose DAC - Bose xover - Bose Amp - Line level adapter - re-mix xover breakouts back to stereo, dsp it, then re-xover it - out to an amp.)
While the above chain is the status quo for upgraded car audio, this BP50 ahould allow direct injection of digital media to the high end miniDSP for ultra clean bi amplification.
Can I use this for a jvc tv with hdmi ten years old to this device? I have an Amazon Firestick in the tv and would like to know if I can use the arylic audio and use the Firestick remote for tv volume and it switches on and off from the Firestick
I am using a HP laptop I5 as source. HDMI out to tv HDMI in (non-smart tv). The Arylic connects from laptop by a USB C port to PC input on Arylic and Shows on unit display as DAC.
Do they make a RCA Splitter Box to audition turntable preamps?
quick question - is it possible to override the internal phono pre-amp with an external phono preamp of my choice in the BP50?
Is they any 19" rack mountable options to do multi room audio?
hey randy! thank you so much for this. Can I ask if I can use this to connect an active speaker to an active subwoofer? or is there a better alternative. thank you so much
I am on my 3rd Arylic BP50 and they all are doing the same thing. Randomly no sound so I have to rest or turn off and back on then it is fine. Just never know when it will cut off sound. Funny thing the sub out still works when the sound goes out. Any Ideas ? This happens on all outputs.
Hi Randy I watched your video and did order bp50 but the internal dac is only just ok and I think you said that if I get the su1 and somehow plug it in it would become the dac the bp50 would use. if so good but I dont know how to plug the su1 into what where and how. ( I was not born last night just more then 26000 nights ago haha)
right now i use spotify premium but if I move to a better music stream service I need this info. thanks
Will this work with a audiolab 6000a for tv listening 2.1?
Thanks!
thanks so much!
@@cheapaudioman Thank you for all you do! And, go Astros! (Greetings from Houston!)
Could you please tell more about device you show. Like power it on and show how it works, the display, like this one does it have bass management, like frequency cut selection, then then does it have high pas filter for the regular output? What are the specs? DAC filter etc…thank you, I will keep following you
Compare the SMSL PS100 it has hdmi Arc and it’s ess 9023 as well and only 30 bucks.
Hi! Can you tell me if the BP50 preamp will take the BT signal from (not to) my laptop to the preamp?
3:55 the reason to use HDMI over optical is so the TV remote can operate the volume.
If you output through optical out of the arylic you will lose that ability for volume control. If you use the internal dac of the arylic then you can use volume control with your tv remote.
Can it be used as a streamer + dac, no variable output through the rca outs?
Randy, is the BP50 a reasonable and affordable first step to ultimately buying an Emotive Basx PT1 stereo preamp?
Id like to see ifi release something like this or at least have them put a sub out on their BT receiver.
I briefly owned the Arylic B50. I thought the sound quality was meh and the HDMI Arc wasn't compatible with my TV - despite owning two sound bars that work just fine on the same TV via HDMI Arc. I returned it.
I had to change my tv digital output mode to "stereo pam" that's got me a few times. Mine actually worked straight away and I bought it off amazon
This might be the thing I’ve been looking for… just need a good external power amplifier and that’ll be an awesome setup!
Yeah exactly! This is a like an affordable Bluesound Node !
@@1337sim1Oh Node you di’ent! (It really is.)
@@SyzygyNoon 🤣🤣🤣 good one!
Can you please review the new SMSL AO300 integrated amp with EARC
on the list
One area where I think this is really not considered......with a few other connections, you can convert B-Speakers on 7.2 channel receivers into basically Bluetooth enabled audio from your receiver. So if you are watching the game inside, and need to head out to tend to the grill, you still get the audio to Bluetooth enabled speakers outside.
Or ..... broadcast stereo audio to the dining room from the receiver.
should i buy this along with their b50 amp? What are the benefits of buying both their amp and preamp vs just their b50 amp which also has the same inputs including arc?
So can this be used for a desktop 2.1 setup?
I bet it was fun for daughter pouring a bucket of water on the Soundcore bluetooth speaker.
I can't wait to get 10% off of my 'frist' order!
As a suggestion for your viewers, I always draw a block diagrams of everything, with notes, cause at my age, I forget where stuff goes when I'm tinkering, Lol.
I like the idea of using it as a digital switcher for my TV hdmi output.
I have an hdmi switch with 4hdmi in 1 hdmi out with video + audio 1hdmi out audio only and 1 optical output for 50€, Don t understand this product
@@tchernob seems like a preamp of sorts. You can run your TV thru it, has sub output, and with eArc you could use your TV remote to do the volume. I have no use for it, I have basic cables that cost more than this thing. It has some decent inputs/outputs for a budget device. I mentioned using it as an HDMI switcher because that's the only value I would get out of it. I can certainly understand why someone on a budget could use this device for everything it offers though.
I still think my WIIM Pro + is better. If this has line out for 5.1, then I would consider this. This is because center channel audio from my TV hdmi arc is important.
I bought one for $72 last week and waiting on it to arrive. For that price I had to try it. If it's garbage oh well and if it's not...score!
I have the Arylic B50 (same as in the vid, but with amp integrated). The HDMI failed day 1 and the patches haven’t fixed the issue.
That said, everything else about it works very well and the sound of good enough for TV. But I did get it mostly for the ARC, and I got it from Arylic overseas, so I can’t return it.
That sucks. eArc is the reason I would want it as well
yeah. I always always always suggest people get it from amazon and use the heck out of it so you can get an easy return if it dies
Picked one of these up as it sounded perfect for my use case. Unfortunately it has a couple of bugs that make it not worth it for me. The audio cuts out randomly and only a power cycle of the unit fixes it. It also has bad audio quality for the first couple of minutes when starting up. I ended up making a post on their forums about it and other people said these issues are present in the B50 as well. Needless to say I would avoid getting one if you're considering it. If they were to come out with a firmware update to address these issues then it would be great but the response from support was that they don't have any currently and more or less asked me if I plugged it in right.
If you're reading this spend a bit more and get something reliable.
Can you do a video where you upgrade one of those big speaker karaoke speakers with a handle. Bought one from DD’s discounts for $100 and it sounds ok but no bass . The packaging says 1000 watts! Haha
Could you PLEASE do earbud reviews? Your descriptions supported by specific songs and timestamps would be so much more helpful than most of the reviewers who just spout off audiophile buzzwords with no context.
I noticed on the slide just after the sponsored content it said $99 premap ? Was that meant to be preamp :).
Just me being pedantic. I have looked at Arylic before and been a bit disappointed Maybe I should revisit them
FYI = i bought this recently and it does NOT pop on start or shutdown. So they may have fixed it. Otherwise this is a fine cheap unit. The DAC PC input is limited to 16/48... if you must use 24/192 your only choice is optical.
I wish there was something like this form factor that would break out 3.1... I don't want a giant AVR, and the only good compact one (Marantz NR) is too expensive... and ~6x this size
Just to clarify, my ideal would be a 3.1 receiver, with built-in amp, room correction, DSP features, switching 2-3 HDMI inputs... I just want it to be small 😅
jack of all trades, master of none
I just want a preamp with ARC CEC to connect to my Luxman power amp and JBLs to my TV and still use the Tv remote.
I don't want to have multiple separate devices like a preamp, DAC, and and streamer (or more) because I don't want an empty yogurt cup filled with remote controllers next to my furniture.
Part of the cost of all in one wonder boxes like the Eversolo DMP-6 is that everything is in one box, so I only need one remote.
Having a power amp separate from the rest is fine, because it can be set to auto-trigger on input, but I don't want to have 3+ remotes for everything else I use.
That's worth some dollars in itself, and reason to avoid products like this. Especially ones with no front-end UI.
If this thing doesn't support SACD, VHS and MQA I'm out! For real though...that bass boost button is wild
I did not get an email yesterday...😊❤
Between two ferns!😂
Hi, when are you going to do the giveaway? I've been waiting to see what items there are, and who has won!!
It was done on my last live stream
@@cheapaudioman Oh, thanks for the reply!! Not sure what time it is there, I'm in the UK. I couldn't see it, I wasn't notified for some reason, so I will have a closer look. I assume I can still watch it?
Good afternoon everyone
Coaxial in 😢
I have an hdmi switch with 4hdmi in 1 hdmi out with video + audio, 1hdmi out audio only and 1 optical output for 50€, Don t understand this product honestly
It allows me to choose between stereo to my dac or home theater to my hc amp
Pre- existing condition is how I got more money from the VA. LOL!!!
You need to crank the volume of your videos, way lower than others!
Thanks for the tip
Can you draw a diagram of your setup instead of just describing it?
yes I can
why would you use the arc input? simple so that your family can stick to their tv or apple tv or chromecast remote without having to call you🙄
that’s why😂😈
Ehhh, I thought I remembered Randy having better content than this. Good luck Randy.
Soundcore 300 und Stereo? Hahaha,schlechter Witz,oder?
Are those underwear next to you? It's very intimate that you feel no need to faux clean for your audience. THAT is what I call confidence!
probably not. maybe a pair of the kids shorts. I feel zero need to clean up the house for videos. I have kids and I'm not pretending to be anyone that I'm not. Confidence... perhaps laziness on my part
@@cheapaudioman I love it. Rock on.