One of my best musical experiences was taking a college course on Sun Ra taught by Anthony Braxton. I never heard music the same way ever again. It's scary how advanced human beings can become; when you realize there was a time when none of these people knew anything about music. It's truly inspirational that a person can learn and master so much.
@@suchapill3077 amazing musician, his approach to music is incredibly innovative.. I saw him in Hyde Park Chicago and it took me 5 minutes to haul my jaw off the floor after the set... just be warned 😆😂❤️🔥
I know what you mean. This is probably one of the most advanced songs I've heard in life. It's musical alien technology ua-cam.com/video/2tZD9OxuY5A/v-deo.htmlsi=IbsbpgmqtvY9rTlB
Yes. Medicine for a nightmare is one of the most advanced songs I've heard in life. It's like alien musical technology. All the versions but specifically the single version
If you listen to Gilmore's solo here, it's so tasteful and yet comprised of simple melody lines. A prime example that you don't need to play sophisticated licks to sound good
Anyone who smiles with their eyes like that when they talk about someone is worth knowing. I seen this documentary at the time and it blew my mind how sincere John was. Much love and respect.
Same thing happened to me. My friend was smart and told me Sun Ra was great. I wasn't hearing it... then one night I heard it... Magic City... Thank you for educating me John and Sun Ra and all of you. I've never heard of anyone who wasn't blown away by a Sun Ra show... square... hip... once you are there... its amazing.
I had the same experience. I know about Sun Ra for some years but never really got into it, then there's one night I was listening to Tiny Pyramids it just clicked, I "heard the intervals". I stayed up all night that day listening to Sun Ra non stop, bought a saxophone the next day, that's also the day I really got into jazz. I can't imagine my life if I wasn't listening to Sun Ra that night.
Same thing here - listening off and on for months and being like "WTF? I don't get it" Then saw them live (at Ruthie's Inn Berkeley) and the whole thing came together! Yow!
I love the way Ra plays around the chords on this interpretation of 'Round Midnight. He just plays it the way Duke Ellington would. And always different every time. Listen extremely carefully to Ra's comped polychords and phrases. He's amazingly as innovative as Monk in creating his own expressive polychords . Not the repeatable polychords that McCoy Tyner plays while improvising on top of a repeated pattern. Each chord is unique at every interval. Yeah.... That's wild (as Monk would say).
He came to Sun Ra with a fairly open pineal gland .Twas Sun Ra that opened his 3rd eye wide and and set him free. Did you hear him play My Favourite Things ? He out-did Trane, in my opinion. His pineal is magnetised, it changes the set of his eyes. Wow dem eyes bright like the tips of bullets. Such a FIne man. Sun Ra must have taken him to Saturn&back on the astrale plane. I'm pretty sure Sun Ra could leave his body at will. if he chose to float around when not playing. Where the power of his music is. i used to have this for years recorded off the radio in early 1990s/late 80s and still do on a ropey cassette tape somewhere!!!!........THX this is some of the best up close film footage of Sun Ra in a groove.
Gilmore was an incredible tenor player and highly underrated. Love his stuff with Sun Ra, but he's also great on Andrew Hill's Compulsion and Pete La Roca's Turkish Women at the Bath.
I was fortunated enough to see the Sun Ra Arkestra live in Athens in Feb 1984. With John Gilmore, Elo Omoe, Marshall Allen, etc. It was revelation, magic and enlightenment. A timeless and unforgettable expirience.
John was a nice man. I always like the logical way he developed his solo. Another great example comes from the album "Nothing Is' on the song Dancing Shadows. Thanks for this.
Thank you for posting. Interesting though, is that the piece of music the filmmaker inserts just after Mr. Gilmore extolls Sun Ra for stretching boundries even beyond what Mingus and Monk were doing...is MONK's "Round Midnight"!
Do you have a recording of that gig? Would you share? I have an extensive list and am happy to share what I've got. Please let's get in touch if you are a Ra enthusiast! Thanks.
John said he stayed with Ra because of all the help he had with the music. He didn't have to play his axe constantly, he could relax playing the drums while other musicians took over. He once told me over work is what killed Trane, playing all those concerts, and the amount of excellent works he produced before the age of 40 years took a toll on his life and health.
And I am certain the heroin he did back in his 20s (and the prodigious amounts of alcohol he drank to pick up the void which was created after he got off of the junk) didn't help matters much. All of that abuse had to have had a negative effect on his kidney and his liver, as well as his other vital organs.
His style is the Father of Trane's style but everyone has there own expression. People thought he was crazy for wasting his career with Sun Ra. They were wrong.
Johnny Gilmore was a truly great saxophonist. He even influenced the great John Coltrane later in his career. A totally original and unique sounding style all his own.Andrew hills compulsion and ANDREW!!! Are Prime examples of his range and technical ability. One of my all time favorites.
Best rendition of Round Midnight I've ever heard. I could listen to Sun Ra Orchestra all day and night if they played like this all the time! If they stick to a melody and improvise like this I can listen to Sun Ra but the stuff that goes out into outerspace is not for me. The organ player & the whole band is amazing - no wonder Gilmorel enjoyed playing with them! The only reason I viewed the video was to see John Gilmore. Thanks for sharing the video
Eventually... especially live... it ALL comes into view. Its like Dizzy said: "I don't care too much about music. What I like is sounds" Dizzy Gillespie ----- Ultimately its just love of different kinds of sounds... we organize them in all kinds of different ways. That's all it is... organized sound.
+Trevor Slocum holiday for soul dance. there is also another sun ra arrangement on there featuring ricky murrays beautiful voice called early autumn. you may also want to listen to that
I lost count of how many times I saw the man play. But he knocked me on my ass every time. One time I was visiting in NYC - might have been '78, '79... I was on (Positively" Fourth Street saying hi to a sax man I knew from Richmond who was working in a bagel joint... and some of Ra's guys were handing out fliers for a show in Brooklyn. Of course I went, and it was at an African dance school with a stage. And there were more people in the Arkestra than there were in the audience! Not even close. At one point Ra played a long drum solo, and I think those must be truly rare!
please someone tell me the name of this song they play after mr john gilmore talks, i really got addictet to it and i dont know its name.please.do you know its name?
Round Midnight. It's a song by Thelonious Monk, whom he mentions in the video as "I didn't think anybody was ahead of Monk and Bird until I heard Sun Ra"
I was a believer in Sun Ra already....After listening to John Gilmore ...I'm a "true believer"......whatever the hell that means.......Hey yo....them cat's was badd!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for your kind remarks, Evan. If you get a chance listen to Sun Ra's celeste and piano composition called "Nebulae" ua-cam.com/video/IiyOV1YI2rs/v-deo.html (or just google Nebulae UA-cam Sun Ra). I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. It's unique and fascinating. And it's living proof of the genius of the man. My uncle Steve Lacy (the soprano saxophonist) turned me on to it many years ago.
again, spot on Don! Unfortunately for the human race - which cannot recognize a prophet as general standard - it can take anywhere from 5 to 5000 minutes to hear what you are referring to. I wonder if black people can hear it with better ease? Either way, once you hear it...you might end up like myself. Addicted hopelessly to the cosmic sounds - hardly able to listen to anything else.
Gilmore didn't use drugs. None of the musicians in Sun Ra's band were allowed to drink or take drugs. He was real strict about that shit, like James Brown Frank Zappa were to the musicians they hired.
This is one of the best clips on UA-cam.
I wanna give this comment two thumbs up. I couldn’t agree more.
@@TheWarriorSage1357 Thanks man! Good to know you're out there!
One of my best musical experiences was taking a college course on Sun Ra taught by Anthony Braxton. I never heard music the same way ever again. It's scary how advanced human beings can become; when you realize there was a time when none of these people knew anything about music. It's truly inspirational that a person can learn and master so much.
I love Anthony Braxton. He swings, outside.
I realize I'm a few years late but do you have anything else to say about what you learned? If it isn't too much trouble that is, thanks.
@@suchapill3077 amazing musician, his approach to music is incredibly innovative.. I saw him in Hyde Park Chicago and it took me 5 minutes to haul my jaw off the floor after the set... just be warned 😆😂❤️🔥
I know what you mean. This is probably one of the most advanced songs I've heard in life. It's musical alien technology
ua-cam.com/video/2tZD9OxuY5A/v-deo.htmlsi=IbsbpgmqtvY9rTlB
Yes. Medicine for a nightmare is one of the most advanced songs I've heard in life. It's like alien musical technology. All the versions but specifically the single version
Sun Ra is my favorite artist. I was fortunate to be in the audience when this was filmed in Baltimore.
Wow, that's beautiful, I bet you still feel those vibes
What? That is amazing. I've watched this little clip probably 30 times. Being there would blow my mind.
Sun Ra is in my top 10 ever which is really exceptional as i have now about 500 now in my top including jazz, rock, experimental, world & classical
Baltimore /Maryland Performance?.... If so i envy you sir. .did you know if they recorded it?
@@stanmenshic8993 World music?
Is there anything as World music? Misnaming.
So good to see John Gilmore in color and to hear him talk!!!🥂🍾👍🏾
If you listen to Gilmore's solo here, it's so tasteful and yet comprised of simple melody lines. A prime example that you don't need to play sophisticated licks to sound good
오골계 true that
what song is it?
One of my fav solos of all time. Pure genius!
@@radioclub5184 round midnight by Monk
John Gilmore ....a true giant..
In any clip where Gilmore is soloing, Marshall Allen is always really listening and obviously digging it.
Ha! I just posted the same thing before reading this comment. You can see he really admired Gilmore's playing.
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Anyone who smiles with their eyes like that when they talk about someone is worth knowing. I seen this documentary at the time and it blew my mind how sincere John was. Much love and respect.
wow my thoughts exactly
Nicely said - you can see the joy!
Same thing happened to me. My friend was smart and told me Sun Ra was great. I wasn't hearing it... then one night I heard it... Magic City... Thank you for educating me John and Sun Ra and all of you. I've never heard of anyone who wasn't blown away by a Sun Ra show... square... hip... once you are there... its amazing.
i actually did and it was amazing!!
Gilmore is a hero. A transcendent artist.
He "heard it."
Gilmore seems like a nice fellow. A truly superb saxophonist.
met him and several cats in the Arkestra back in mid 70's...nyc
I love how you always see young Marshall Allen watch Gilmore play in total admiration
I had the same experience. I know about Sun Ra for some years but never really got into it, then there's one night I was listening to Tiny Pyramids it just clicked, I "heard the intervals". I stayed up all night that day listening to Sun Ra non stop, bought a saxophone the next day, that's also the day I really got into jazz. I can't imagine my life if I wasn't listening to Sun Ra that night.
Same thing here - listening off and on for months and being like "WTF? I don't get it" Then saw them live (at Ruthie's Inn Berkeley) and the whole thing came together! Yow!
I love the way Ra plays around the chords on this interpretation of 'Round Midnight. He just plays it the way Duke Ellington would. And always different every time. Listen extremely carefully to Ra's comped polychords and phrases. He's amazingly as innovative as Monk in creating his own expressive polychords . Not the repeatable polychords that McCoy Tyner plays while improvising on top of a repeated pattern. Each chord is unique at every interval. Yeah.... That's wild (as Monk would say).
This video is a prime example
Man, so cool, I saw Sun Ra "cold" in '68 - changed my life, especially the way i listen to music.
John Gilmore is the greatest tenor player of all time.
Coltrane used to have lessons with him so you can see
what Trane took from him.
Yet when you talk about great jazz tenor players of the past 70 years, his name almost never gets mentioned among them. Gilmore was a genius. R.I.P.
+merrlinn1 such an unsung master
Absolutely.
no me mames
I could listen to John all day.
He came to Sun Ra with a fairly open pineal gland .Twas Sun Ra that opened his 3rd eye wide and and set him free. Did you hear him play My Favourite Things ? He out-did Trane, in my opinion. His pineal is magnetised, it changes the set of his eyes. Wow dem eyes bright like the tips of bullets. Such a FIne man. Sun Ra must have taken him to Saturn&back on the astrale plane. I'm pretty sure Sun Ra could leave his body at will. if he chose to float around when not playing. Where the power of his music is.
i used to have this for years recorded off the radio in early 1990s/late 80s and still do on a ropey cassette tape somewhere!!!!........THX this is some of the best up close film footage of Sun Ra in a groove.
it's time to find that cassette and share it to the world soon before it changes even more from way back then!
Gilmore was an incredible tenor player and highly underrated. Love his stuff with Sun Ra, but he's also great on Andrew Hill's Compulsion and Pete La Roca's Turkish Women at the Bath.
I was fortunated enough to see the Sun Ra Arkestra live in Athens in Feb 1984. With John Gilmore, Elo Omoe, Marshall Allen, etc. It was revelation, magic and enlightenment. A timeless and unforgettable expirience.
I've always wondered if this concert had ever been issued on vinyl or cd. Can't stop listening to those two chorus. I need more!
ra killed this tune. damn! love it, real dirty.
John was a nice man. I always like the logical way he developed his solo. Another great example comes from the album "Nothing Is' on the song Dancing Shadows. Thanks for this.
I had no idea that John Gilmore was so highly regarded!
Thank you for posting. Interesting though, is that the piece of music the filmmaker inserts just after Mr. Gilmore extolls Sun Ra for stretching boundries even beyond what Mingus and Monk were doing...is MONK's "Round Midnight"!
Sweet, really respect John's style
The Great John Gilmore!!!
beautiful music
The clip of Baltimore here is one of my favourite RA gigs.
Do you have a recording of that gig? Would you share? I have an extensive list and am happy to share what I've got. Please let's get in touch if you are a Ra enthusiast! Thanks.
John said he stayed with Ra because of all the help he had with the music. He didn't have to play his axe constantly, he could relax playing the drums while other musicians took over. He once told me over work is what killed Trane, playing all those concerts, and the amount of excellent works he produced before the age of 40 years took a toll on his life and health.
And I am certain the heroin he did back in his 20s (and the prodigious amounts of alcohol he drank to pick up the void which was created after he got off of the junk) didn't help matters much. All of that abuse had to have had a negative effect on his kidney and his liver, as well as his other vital organs.
drugs and drink..catch up
The best rendition of 'Round Midnight I've heard yet.
"Round Midnight" & they play it most wonderfully!
Gilmore was something of a jazz saint.
This man is in the same caliber with John Coltrane
Some have argued that he was advanced past Coltrane.
Sun Ra was in another galaxy than Coltrane.
His style is the Father of Trane's style but everyone has there own expression. People thought he was crazy for wasting his career with Sun Ra. They were wrong.
Coltrane took lessons from him
I see him higher
Great excert, This is from "A Joyul noise"
Sun Ra - A Joyful Noise [Full Movie]
Beautiful!
This is an excerpt from the dvd Sun Ra - A Joyful Noise.
my favorite arkestra member always makes me smile
Johnny Gilmore was a truly great saxophonist. He even influenced the great John Coltrane later in his career. A totally original and unique sounding style all his own.Andrew hills compulsion and ANDREW!!! Are Prime examples of his range and technical ability. One of my all time favorites.
The man
*THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH MY FRIEND!*
Best rendition of Round Midnight I've ever heard. I could listen to Sun Ra Orchestra all day and night if they played like this all the time! If they stick to a melody and improvise like this I can listen to Sun Ra but the stuff that goes out into outerspace is not for me. The organ player & the whole band is amazing - no wonder Gilmorel enjoyed playing with them! The only reason I viewed the video was to see John Gilmore. Thanks for sharing the video
Eventually... especially live... it ALL comes into view. Its like Dizzy said: "I don't care too much about music. What I like is sounds" Dizzy Gillespie ----- Ultimately its just love of different kinds of sounds... we organize them in all kinds of different ways. That's all it is... organized sound.
@@dorengarcia5097organized sounds 👌👌
John’s voice is just like his tenor tone.
Massive.
❤❤❤
Anyone know if this arrangement of Round Midnight is on any of Sun Ra's LP's?
+Trevor Slocum holiday for soul dance. there is also another sun ra arrangement on there featuring ricky murrays beautiful voice called early autumn. you may also want to listen to that
ua-cam.com/video/cppuRMONF1A/v-deo.html
my father's uncle
wow holy shit
Whoa!
Derick Gilmore To even be related to someone like that must be a great honor.
I lost count of how many times I saw the man play. But he knocked me on my ass every time.
One time I was visiting in NYC - might have been '78, '79... I was on (Positively" Fourth Street saying hi to a sax man I knew from Richmond who was working in a bagel joint... and some of Ra's guys were handing out fliers for a show in Brooklyn. Of course I went, and it was at an African dance school with a stage. And there were more people in the Arkestra than there were in the audience! Not even close. At one point Ra played a long drum solo, and I think those must be truly rare!
Do you know where the full interview is? Or any other interviews with Gilmore?
:) @ 1.08, So cool!
Full Interview? Please?!
Sun-Ra scared everybody,and Gilmore was good eough to play with him
Sun shining armor
good comment
please someone tell me the name of this song they play after mr john gilmore talks, i really got addictet to it and i dont know its name.please.do you know its name?
Round Midnight. It's a song by Thelonious Monk, whom he mentions in the video as "I didn't think anybody was ahead of Monk and Bird until I heard Sun Ra"
I was a believer in Sun Ra already....After listening to John Gilmore ...I'm a "true believer"......whatever the hell that means.......Hey yo....them cat's was badd!!!!!!!!!
Where is this video from? Is this from a dvd that is commercially available because I would buy it in a heart beat.
This is from the DVD a joyful noise.
What song is this? Does anyone know? I have over 30 Sun Ra records, but I don't recognise this one...
its monk's round midnight
This is a wonderful clip. Thank you so much for sharing. What song is Mr. Gilmore playing? Wonderful!
Got it. Round Midnight. Wow!
who the fuck would dislike this shit?
there is something monk like about sun ra
The deepest musician ever.....I still can't understand his harmonics
You are not alone. Me, either.
¡¡En ese piano rodes estuvieron tomando cocaína..juaaaah!!!
Thanks for your kind remarks, Evan. If you get a chance listen to Sun Ra's celeste and piano composition called "Nebulae" ua-cam.com/video/IiyOV1YI2rs/v-deo.html (or just google Nebulae UA-cam Sun Ra). I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. It's unique and fascinating. And it's living proof of the genius of the man. My uncle Steve Lacy (the soprano saxophonist) turned me on to it many years ago.
3:34-3:44
Gilmore stops at Saturn.
again, spot on Don! Unfortunately for the human race - which cannot recognize a prophet as general standard - it can take anywhere from 5 to 5000 minutes to hear what you are referring to. I wonder if black people can hear it with better ease? Either way, once you hear it...you might end up like myself. Addicted hopelessly to the cosmic sounds - hardly able to listen to anything else.
I know what you mean Evan
love how everyone thinks they knew what sun ra was doing....i don't think sun ra even knew what he was doing
''One night I could really hear it''
I bet it was acid.
Gilmore didn't use drugs. None of the musicians in Sun Ra's band were allowed to drink or take drugs. He was real strict about that shit, like James Brown Frank Zappa were to the musicians they hired.
@@rayjr62 oh some of them still did though lol, supposedly
Ha Ha ..... guys like Ra & Gilmore have bigger fish to fry . No time for shoe gazing .