Addenda: 1) This build is vulnerable to the issue shown in this other video: ua-cam.com/video/907Fgud_AX8/v-deo.html Apparently if you start it up with too much steam pressure in the steam room, it won't start up properly. (Thanks to thepay128)
@@xN3hiox I see what you are saying but I've never had it happen. The tempshift plates keep the temperature quite stable, so I think it would still work even if all the water was lost. In any case, the fix is to use a water input from your base to make sure the loop is never empty.
I would say a better design would be a thermal injector using a a metal door Then you don't need to interact with the steam and you can fine tune the temperature to whatever you want You have to run the same loop, but you have a box of water that is constantly getting cooled by the pipes from the aquatuner Then a temo sensor on the side of the steam vent, set to red if the temperature is above, say 70 degrees( this is perfect for an electrolyzer) bit you can even set it to 20 degrees C Therefore the door will remain closed and allow heat to flow into the cooling box, untill the water inside the steam vent chamber reaches 70, after which it will open,creating a vacuum
I like your style of making ONI build videos. Building the contraption right in front of me and explaining what each part does as you build it makes it much easier for me to fully understand and implement some version of it myself. Cheers!
Tony I am using 3 of these in my current base, they provide me plenty of water for my electrolizers. One tweak that makes this perfect. Connect your existing thermal sensor to an and gate and a atmo sensor. Set the atmo sensor to 500g, so it shuts off the aquatuner when the vent is off. This keeps the aquatuner at 100% uptime in conjunction to the steam vent injecting 110C steam. Clarification Edit: I was having issues with the aquatuner pipes being empty when the steam vent would go off. Attaching the atmo sensor allows for the pipes to stay full while the vent is dormant.
Very creative, well done. Unfortunately steam turbines need plastic to be built, so it’s not really an early game build. But I’ll definitely be building this mid game! Early game I just build a small tank of p-water with a conductive base on top of the vent. The p-water condenses the steam and takes ages to heat up, by then I have the technology and materials to build something more permanent.
I successfully added a full water cooler to this design: Replace the 'hot' output pipe with a reservoir. Place a liquid vent directly above the tuner, connected to the output of the hot reservoir. Place a gas sensor in a corner of the steam room and attach it to the liquid vent and set it to open when pressure is below 500g or so. While erupting, the generators will output more water than can be output during the primary cooling loop so it will back up in the hot reservoir. When the vent is in an idle period the room will evacuate and the vent will open and drip water onto the hot tuner and immediately turn into steam. This will cause all of the captured hot water to be run through the primary cooling loop and have its heat gradually deleted by the turbines and you can output everything a chilly 20C. This was a 4kg vent (exactly two turbines) with a roughly 50% duty cycle. If you need to tune the total throughput to cool more water with a single tuner you can raise the output temperature or increase the pressure threshold, which will cause the steam to be cooler and delete heat less efficiently, but have a higher throughput.
Well I managed to ranch a bunch of glossy dreckos quite early on. Not a huge source of plastic but if you don't use it for much else after a while you have enough (I made 3 beds but I could have made 3 turbines). It took me a while because it was my first attempt ever at ranching drekos with dual hydrogen/co2 atmosphere in the room, and I had to manage the temperature too. I guess once I have the hang of it I could make one quite early next time, right outside the base. You kinda need exosuits tho, but if you ranch half standard drekos and half glossy, at the very beginning, you get a bit of fiber for the suits too. Anyway my point is if you have dreckos you can have plastic quite early, no need for oil/petroleum/polymer press. Not a lot of plastic, but enough if you save it for turbines.
Diseasel yes, aluminum has a conductivity rating a little less than 3x that of diamond, but the big flaw it has is that it melts at around 660C if I'm remembering correctly, so it can't be used in transferring heat from volcanoes.
I put tiles a few squares above and create a rectangular room with it in side with plenty of space under it and have the water pumping from the bottom to the top and radiator pipes going though the top tiles that ends up making the steam cool down fairly well 🙂
I'm not sure I understand, are you cooling the steam? It sounds like a workable solution, but this video is all about why it's good to heat it up instead.
I like how you broke this down and explained simply. I think the trade off compared to other solutions I've seen is the water pump like you mentioned. Those other setups will only ever require one steam turbine though and could cool other things too.
Even the plastic can be rushed. I usually make a temporary dirty plastic production where i just put the press in a pool of water to produce a few hundred kilos of plastic then dismantle it.
@@ironboy3245 I assume you mean the crude oil pumps. You can usually find pockets of crude oil that is colder than 125°C. If not you can use pitcher pump and bottle emptier to dump some of the hot oil onto some cold tiles and then pump it.
Any tips on how to best progress to the midgame? I've started a normal run on the easy map food and oxygen aren't an issue heat is still manageable. I'm on cycle 70-80 I feel I should be transitioning slowly to the midgame. I've thought about running petrolium generators but there was not 1 arbor tree in my starting biome or the adjacent ones for ethanol. I thought about plastic but I have only a single drecko reproducing super slow. I need steel as well but I don't have the ore. All these advanced buildings require either plastic or steel. or other refined metals to work properly. I guess your not supposed to use the ore crusher for all your needs. What should I focus on? Ceramic to line my base? steel? plastic? Each of these feels like a megaproject. to get proper industrial levels of production. I found a geyser with water but it's going to need so much power and effort to tame it just for a bit of cooling? for a net power cost?
I think of the mid-game as starting when you begin wanting to produce steel and plastic. If you don't have the experience yet then it takes some effort to figure out how it all works. I think the first step is getting access to oil biomes. You can crush the fossil you mine into lime so you can make steel in the metal refinery, and you can refine the oil into petroleum to make plastic with the polymer press. There are dangers. Oil biomes tend to be hot enough to hurt/kill your dupes, so you might need atmo suits to keep them safe. And everything about steel/plastic production generates a lot of heat. So you probably need some kind of cooling set up. The first time you do this it will feel a bit like there are several big complicated things that you have to learn and build before you can do the one seemingly simple thing that you need to do. It isn't easy your first time around, the mid-game is where ONI starts making you really think, and it can be a lot of work and planning. There's a fair chance that you'll lose your colony a couple times before you get the hang of it. But if it were easy then it wouldn't be fun, and once you get the experience you'll have strategies for accomplishing these tasks without it being a whole ordeal. You'll get good at it and it will be easier and you'll be ready to do the next big thing.
Early game -> 3 turbines, aquatuner and oil. Yeah... In earty game just leave it open and let some piece of environment tank the heat. Though, idea to use turbines as energy-free mini-pumps is nice.
@@tonyadvanced6315 would it be possible to dump some of the water back into the main turbine tank to increase the runtime of the turbines during the dormancy period of the geyser?
I like this, now I have some ideas for later. Early game, I generally just dump the water into a cold biome, melt it and then pump the chilled water back into my base.
There's too much hot water and little for cold water. If the hot water storage is full, you need to cool down the hot water further, or deletes it to electrolyzer.
The only thing what i would add to this build is an extra Liquid pipe thermo sensor. I made that mistake, that the extra water from my base was less than 14 degrees, so it just damaged my pipes.
This is ingenious! I always struggle with the hot water and i hate spending so much power to cool it. You mentioned you had a use for the hot water. What do you use it for ?
I suppose the easiest thing is to feed it to electrolyzers for oxygen. I'm pretty sure the oxygen produced is about the same temperature regardless of the water you use.
Hey so I´m trying the build but the liquid shutoff won´t allow the loop to flow unless it is to eject the cold water. Has this been updated or am I missing something? Thanks for the knowledge :) Edit: Figured it out by mistake, both sides of the shutoff were flowing towards it. A pipe bridge to set a direction did the trick!
REALLY NICE setup... will you be uploading the step by step guide & pictures to the Oxygen Not Included steam community's guides section? P.S. do you know what an oil well is, because I can't figure out how to build the oil refiner without it?
But at some point, you will get a 110°C Steam room, with no liquide water. You still have to cool the Steam down to at least 95°C. What I do is just putting 4 ww in an hydrogen room next to it (with auto sweeper for phosphore), to get this result
Hi, i relly like your direct way in showing of the things you made. i would like to see an early, easy to setup, temporary metal refinery (without gold or steel) and setup for a "power overflow" (i got some self powered modules with too much power production and i want to put that power into my maingrind if the battery is becoming full.)
If you can, just get rid of the battery in your self powered things altogether and wire them into your main grid. They don't use/produce more/less power by virtue of making it themselves and storing it in a battery. But... designing a main grid that makes that straightforward can be tricky.
@@tonyadvanced6315 I am on Arboria, so i have no access to gold and golden aquatuners. i always used to use one in combination with a water sieve to cool down my first metal refinery. But now im not sure how to get coolant.
seems kinda unstable... I just keep a pool of water under the vent and run a cooling loop through that and around the vent. it can get a little warm when it's erupting but cools off when it's not so it kinda evens out and works well enough.
With mods that allow you to see the calculated output of geysers its easier to see how many turbines you need for your exact steam vent. Also besides that you could put a liquid tank as a buffer allowing the turbines to continue working the aqua tuner until all the water comes out cold. Epic build.. I'm gonna test it. Thanks Tony
Has anybody tried this recently?? I think they have made some tweaks to the game that makes this unusable without steel, I just built it on my 400 cycle game exactly to specs and the aquatuner is constantly overheating, I tried various methods to cool the aquatuner but anything I do cools the steam too much too, once the room reached 130c the aquatuner goes above 200c and constantly overheats
You can also plug the hot water to an electrolyzer so it eats more heat, and hydrogen generator to make it self seffucient, this way you get cold water, slightly less hot water, but more power and oxygen. And you can use the cold water to cool the oxygen. However I can't make it work. My cooling loop keeps emptying when the geyser goes idle, so I need to pump more water in, at the cost of more power.
How does the rightmost steam turbine stay cool when the radiant pipe only goes off to the left? I have trouble keeping my turbines cool even when I zigzag radiant pipes all around them
Why won't you make a bridge contraption before the aquatuner to combine packets of water into 10kg each? You're wasting energy. Maybe that's why it's not energy suficient.
new water being cycled in should stack up while queued to enter cooling loop, adding 10kg packets as it empties... but yeah, full pipes are happy pipes
I very much appreciate this build. Looking forward to incorporating it in my base. Nicely explained and if you become slightly more fluent i'd say that your videos are top tier ONI content.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Well what i was trying to say that you sometimes were struggling to find the right word and the flow of the video seemed interrupted. But rewatching the video I couldnt really find any severe cases of this. So I guess I shouldnt have said anything. Anyway I do think that this is a great video, so thank you!
@@headnut57 You are definitely right about that. I literally edit my videos to piece together my sentences so they make sense. Luckily, I seem to be getting better at it.
The aquatuner is made of gold amalgam right? and has an overheat temp of 125 degrees? but the crude oil thermal sensor is made to heat the place up to 130 degrees. doesnt that mean the aquatuner is going to stop working? supposedly.
I eventually replaced the piece of pipe with steel and then got the temperature of the oil and the steam to 155 degrees before the steel pipe broke. The problem is the steam stays between the 2nd and 3rd row of the chamber but never gets to the top row to reach the steam turbines. It is as if the oxygen is blocking the steam from rising to the top.
You have to make the aquatuner out of gold amalgam. That will make it's overheat temperature 175C. It should stay at around 140C with this setup. If it doesn't then something is wrong.
In that case I can't think of any way to handle it besides cooling down the steam until it turns to water. I bet the easiest way would be to put wheezeworts near the vent, and that it could be made in a clever way to maximize the efficiency. I'm certain that there are many demonstrations of good builds for doing this available here on UA-cam and in various online forums.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Yes jaja, it's quite difficult to do it because creative mode is quite different to real game and all the materiales are needed. But instead of an early build is quite cool for a medium base ^^ thx for the respones!
Just run coolant from a smelter, if you are making steel using oil as a coolant it will flash into petrol then for 1000watts you have petrol, heat and smelted metal all in one
This build isn't really working for me. My geyser was pretty big, at 9 kg/s, and I had not only overpressure problems, but I also had a problem with the turbines getting the 'Turbine too hot' error when they go above 100C. This isn't like normal overheating, the turbines still animate but they don't produce power and water. I don't understand that mechanic or what to do about it. Your steam needs to be 125C and your turbine needs to be less than 100C. Sounds like we need further steps to make that happen. The issue is that while I'm cooling water, I'm losing most of the water produced by the geyser because I have to constantly refill the loop with outside water as the turbines won't do it. There is a delicate balance here somewhere that I'm not finding.
Overpressure can be a problem with a powerful vent like yours. I think you should be able to manage it by having a chamber for the steam that is a couple tiles taller. Also, make sure you have enough steam turbines. I don't know why you are having trouble with the turbines overheating. If you post screenshots on imgur or something and give me the link I"ll have a look.
Hey Tony! This video inspired me to try a few ideas today (I spent most of my day playing). I would love you to see my design. I made a Reddit Post about it. It's called: "PSA: Forget aquatuners, it's possible to tame a cold steam turbine with the heat of 2 Steel Power Transformers."
If you use it in an electrolyzer: Don't cool the water, cool the oxygen. If you need cooler water, 1) quick&dirty: just build another aquatuner and run it through it 2) more elegant: use a heat exchanger like in many other videos to get the exact temperature you need.
@@weltraumvogel2 Agreed. Cooling the water from the vent it's just unnecessary chores. Also : Don't bother cooling the oxygen that went to the atmo suits. Dupes has no problem breathing warm O² in the atmo suits. You only need to cool the Oxygen that goes to your base.
I'm a new player and I have a question, since I already have hot/cold water supplies from a cool steam vent, but without the steam turbine, what would I get from using this method aswell in another cool steam vent I have laying around? power? I'm struggling a bit with power since I depend a lot on hydrogen/natural gas vent but I think once the natural gas vent goes dormant, I'm gonna have some issues with it. Thanks!
@@tonyadvanced6315 So mostly the benefit from this is to get a constant flow of hot/cold water or am I missing something? haha. I assume it would be better than my aproach since I dont have to use 1.2kW from my base, right? On that regard, do you have any videos where I could get some pointers for midgame power gains? I'm using 2 natural gas generators and 2 hydrogen ones but it doesn't seem to be enough (the natural gas coming from a geyser). Great content btw!
I don’t think this is a practical early game build. The power requirements for the aquatuner are too high for early game (how many generators did you need to start it up?), and you’re a long way along the tech tree here. And plastic is needed too.
The net power requirement is different for every vent, but it's consistently 45 joules per kg of water produced. That's kind of like a 10kg/s water pump that uses 480 watts. If you can run two water pumps and build a battery, then you can do this.
Yeah, I see the net power once it’s at a steady state, but to get this up and running you have to power the aquatuner for long enough to boil the water and start getting some power back. That’s what, three hydrogen generators dedicated to this for several cycles? It’s fine in sandbox when you don’t have to worry about startup, but in survival mode startup is a huge challenge. To build it the way you have you either have to dump hot water into your base, or take many cycles at high energy use to boil that water. It’s an interesting concept, I enjoyed the video, and I like your content, but this one can’t be done very easily in survival.
@@ermintrude9634 I don't think water is ever boiled at all anywhere. Also, the video demonstrates it working near full capacity after about 1/8th of a cycle for warmup, that's about 75 seconds of running the aquatuner. (Startup begins at about 11:56, with cold oil and everything, I think.)
It's awesome. But the graphics settings tell it to display in ONE pixel by default. So you have to edit that before the game will work. I know nothing of the epic store so I don't know if that makes a difference. I'm using steam. I'll find the post about how to edit that problem and put it here for you. EDIT: I don't know if this is STILL a problem, but it was when I started playing ONI.
Have a look at this comment imgur.com/vHgvOkh. It's from this forum thread forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97287-trouble-shooting-linux-issue-of-starting-with-a-black-screen-and-you-here-the-background-music-playing-it-is-solved-in-this-thread-but-i-still-need-help/
(I'm new player and I don't understand few thing, don't cringe at me ) 1 steam turbine produce 850 watts of energy. Multiple it by 3 and its 2550 watts. Termo aquatuner consumption is 1200 watts. So why it isn't self-sufficient? If i wrong with my math, can you hook hot water output up to electrliser and use hydrogen generator to make it self-sufficient.?
Steam turbines generate less than 850 watts if the steam temperature is less than 200C. You can certainly generate some power via hydrogen by electrolyzing water, I'm not sure about how all the dynamics work out if you include that in the setup.
@@ByMorraDiabo The *other* law of physics says that it still ultimately turns into heat as that electricity is used up by other machines. But it doesn't: this build deletes heat as it turns hot water into cold water while never melting itself, therefore at least one of the devices in this build has to be "magical". Also Carnot's theorem.
This is a really nice setup, but I can't make it to run! Does somebody have issues with the automation? My thermo sensor that controls the aquatuner says that it is sending a green signal (temperature is 85
I can help you. What you are describing sounds like a bug that happens a lot. Switch the thermo sensor to "above" and then back to "below", if that doesn't fix it then post a screenshot of your automation and I'll have a look.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Thanks, twiking the parameter didn't work. So I just built a new one just a tile further from the geyser, and it worked. Now it runs perfectly! Thanks for the vids, I like to see your experiments, keep going!
or you could make a room in vent, vaccumate it. Make room 4 tiles minimum below neutronium with atleast one tile open so water can flow in. Place pump it room below. Boom you got compact, easy, simple tamer(Steam should instanly turn into water). The only con that it will heat up your base. But hey, do you really have plastmass in earlygame?
@@tonyadvanced6315 im sry i already startet a new base its my thing i end ad the era of heat...and end up restarting cyzz of dublicant pocolypse....some day il maybe make a rocket :)
@@tonyadvanced6315 Your newest video I believe answers the problem. The amount of preexisting steam was the issue. The set up only works if you clear the room and start out with low pressure steam. My room was too slow to resolve the problem and ended up turning into a high pressure steam room just like the first room of your newest video.
I'm a newb and just bought this game when it released so I guess my definition of Early Base is different than yours. I'd say steel steam turbines are definitely mid game. I mean, if you have a way to produce steel reliably then what do you even have left besides rocketry and space materials? Give me a way to tame a cool steam vent with earlier tech please.
steam turbines can be any material, since they turn off at 100 degrees, i always make them out of lead since you have tons of it early on and it wont melt. the plastic a tad bit of a pain but glossy drekos can usually be set up by about cycle 50 or so
You will need 3 aqua tuner to produce enough heat for 2 steam turbine. I blindly tried your system and it failed in that the 1 aqua tuner cannot heat enough the steam generated by the cool steam vent to 125c fast enough. What I think happens in your video is that you have enough heat and it will work until the steam turbine has used all the heat.
early game. no steel. no diamond and no plastic. plus on the steam turbine way more better to have hydrogen instead of oxygen, he conduct better the heat ;).
how about temp shifts between radiant pipe & turbine (if it's not cooling well enough due to gas type) that way you COULD have a dupe tune those generators
You definitely need to get the other gasses out of the steam room. There are at least 3 ways. You can make an airlock to let your dupes in and out of the room, then use a pump to pump everything out of the room. Or, you can make holes in the top of the room to let gasses out while you get steam in it for the first time, it's trickier to do but faster once you get the hang of it. Or, you can make an airlock, freeze/liquify all the gasses in the room, and tell your dupes to mop it up, that will require some serious cooling, of course.
@@tonyadvanced6315 i'm new to game and still learning how to build in game complex building. Is there some tips how to build faster? My dupes were building this steam vent tamer 15 days. Do i need to make storage bins near build site?
@@pnegro22 When it seems like it takes your dupes forever to get anything done it's usually because their regular chores are taking up all of their time. For me, the first thing I usually need to do to free them up is replace my algae terrariums with an electrolyzer/carbon-skimmer setup.
Video and comments are gold mine for noob like me ;D Do you also have a problem with generating a lot of slimelung your world or am I only that lucky :))(
I control slimelung by preventing polluted oxygen from getting into my base, processing slime with the algea distiller, and walling off any areas with slime that I don't want to deal with.
Idk if you still play, but i store all my slime in a storage box near a dusk cap farm and the storage is immersed in a bit of water,to prevent the slime from diffusing This not only consumes the slime and gives you a nice food source, but gets rid of the slimelung problem
If the loop gets too full it stops moving (deadlock). Aquatuners sometimes do weird things and can send an empty packet around the loop. If your water input fills that packet with water then it adds extra water to the loop. If that happens enough times, then deadlock happens. The buffer makes sure any empty packets are full of water so the input doesn't add any water (unless there really isn't enough in the loop). That way deadlock is prevented.
I was actually thinking about doing that since I am doing an all achievement run and need to move asap from the manual generator and most of my shine bugs are dead
this is a power negative setup so it wont work great for super sustainable, the moment i set something up like this i drained all of my hydrogen reserves in about 1 cycle and i couldnt restart it via wheels and my whole super sustainable run was ruined
So, You used a lot of expensive materials to remove 85% (if i remember correctly) of 95'C water from this setup? What's the point of that? That's far from what I call effective cooling... :-/
Because of plastic? In base non-dlc game you can get to oil biome with warm sweaters. 4 thimble reed and you are good to go. For research you only need water and dirt. Put door so only dupes with sweaters do job in 80C area. Don't dive in liquid - just slap golden pump in upper layers of oil puddle -and you are set. So you only need some research, electrical engeneer, a bit of gold and reed from swamp, few tons of refined metal.
Didnt watch the video because the entire point of it is dumb When you start out you have things that are way more important thane taming a cool steam vent so you should just find one and stick a pump near it and let it cook the enviroment. Deal with it when you finished doing everything else or when the enviroment is too hot - by then you will have steel and you'll be able to just use an aquatuner to cool it easily (because you will be swiming in power) Edit: with what power am I supposed to use an aquatuner in the early game (which is until you solve oxygen food refinement and electricity) you are showing a cycle 200+ tamer the video is just a clickbait.
Addenda:
1) This build is vulnerable to the issue shown in this other video: ua-cam.com/video/907Fgud_AX8/v-deo.html Apparently if you start it up with too much steam pressure in the steam room, it won't start up properly. (Thanks to thepay128)
What happens on dormancy ? The water loop is eventually depleted, and since steam is always 110 the system will never start again
@@xN3hiox I see what you are saying but I've never had it happen. The tempshift plates keep the temperature quite stable, so I think it would still work even if all the water was lost.
In any case, the fix is to use a water input from your base to make sure the loop is never empty.
I would say a better design would be a thermal injector using a a metal door
Then you don't need to interact with the steam and you can fine tune the temperature to whatever you want
You have to run the same loop, but you have a box of water that is constantly getting cooled by the pipes from the aquatuner
Then a temo sensor on the side of the steam vent, set to red if the temperature is above, say 70 degrees( this is perfect for an electrolyzer) bit you can even set it to 20 degrees C
Therefore the door will remain closed and allow heat to flow into the cooling box, untill the water inside the steam vent chamber reaches 70, after which it will open,creating a vacuum
@@xN3hiox You can add a liquid reservoir between the turbines output and the loop should you have that problem. Or as a prevention.
@@roojackaroo8517 That means you have to run the aquatuner most of the time. It's very power-hungry.
I like your style of making ONI build videos. Building the contraption right in front of me and explaining what each part does as you build it makes it much easier for me to fully understand and implement some version of it myself. Cheers!
Tony I am using 3 of these in my current base, they provide me plenty of water for my electrolizers.
One tweak that makes this perfect. Connect your existing thermal sensor to an and gate and a atmo sensor. Set the atmo sensor to 500g, so it shuts off the aquatuner when the vent is off. This keeps the aquatuner at 100% uptime in conjunction to the steam vent injecting 110C steam.
Clarification Edit: I was having issues with the aquatuner pipes being empty when the steam vent would go off. Attaching the atmo sensor allows for the pipes to stay full while the vent is dormant.
Your ONI videos are the best. No fluffing around, just straight up doing it and explaining it. Really love that.
baronvoncarson watch some of GreatStalin’s videos and you’ll regret saying that
I really like you instructional videos. Many others end up being a "lets play" tutorial where other game elements dilute their message. Kudos.
The last early base steam vent tamer I used was called Rime.
Nice build and video. I'll probably use this setup.
Its hard to me think about those builds , so much things to do , to learn in this game , your video help me a lot, thanks
You're welcome. :)
Very creative, well done.
Unfortunately steam turbines need plastic to be built, so it’s not really an early game build. But I’ll definitely be building this mid game!
Early game I just build a small tank of p-water with a conductive base on top of the vent. The p-water condenses the steam and takes ages to heat up, by then I have the technology and materials to build something more permanent.
Oh dang. They do? Yeah, that was an oversight. I was worried about the refined metal. Bleh.
i mean are glossy dreckos really that hard to get though?
I successfully added a full water cooler to this design: Replace the 'hot' output pipe with a reservoir. Place a liquid vent directly above the tuner, connected to the output of the hot reservoir. Place a gas sensor in a corner of the steam room and attach it to the liquid vent and set it to open when pressure is below 500g or so. While erupting, the generators will output more water than can be output during the primary cooling loop so it will back up in the hot reservoir. When the vent is in an idle period the room will evacuate and the vent will open and drip water onto the hot tuner and immediately turn into steam. This will cause all of the captured hot water to be run through the primary cooling loop and have its heat gradually deleted by the turbines and you can output everything a chilly 20C. This was a 4kg vent (exactly two turbines) with a roughly 50% duty cycle. If you need to tune the total throughput to cool more water with a single tuner you can raise the output temperature or increase the pressure threshold, which will cause the steam to be cooler and delete heat less efficiently, but have a higher throughput.
I did this in my early game easily, just found a drecko, fed him some meal wood and i got plastic without raffinery :)
I'm glad you upgraded your sound quality in your new videos. It makes a difference. Thanks
Well I managed to ranch a bunch of glossy dreckos quite early on. Not a huge source of plastic but if you don't use it for much else after a while you have enough (I made 3 beds but I could have made 3 turbines). It took me a while because it was my first attempt ever at ranching drekos with dual hydrogen/co2 atmosphere in the room, and I had to manage the temperature too. I guess once I have the hang of it I could make one quite early next time, right outside the base. You kinda need exosuits tho, but if you ranch half standard drekos and half glossy, at the very beginning, you get a bit of fiber for the suits too.
Anyway my point is if you have dreckos you can have plastic quite early, no need for oil/petroleum/polymer press. Not a lot of plastic, but enough if you save it for turbines.
Aluminum if you have it is the new go to for early game tempshift plates. It has really good conductivity rating.
My inexperience with the latest test build is showing. :(
Diseasel yes, aluminum has a conductivity rating a little less than 3x that of diamond, but the big flaw it has is that it melts at around 660C if I'm remembering correctly, so it can't be used in transferring heat from volcanoes.
2nd that about TonyAdvanced, the guide videos are better than all other video makers. Accurate, deeply explained and to the point.
I put tiles a few squares above and create a rectangular room with it in side with plenty of space under it and have the water pumping from the bottom to the top and radiator pipes going though the top tiles that ends up making the steam cool down fairly well 🙂
I'm not sure I understand, are you cooling the steam? It sounds like a workable solution, but this video is all about why it's good to heat it up instead.
I like how you broke this down and explained simply. I think the trade off compared to other solutions I've seen is the water pump like you mentioned. Those other setups will only ever require one steam turbine though and could cool other things too.
Steam turbines aren't early game though.
It's true. It's the plastic. I overlooked that in the video and mentioned it in the description.
Yeah, that's why I always rush glossy drekco ASAP, also the extra plastic for upgraded gas vent make life sooo much easier
Even the plastic can be rushed. I usually make a temporary dirty plastic production where i just put the press in a pool of water to produce a few hundred kilos of plastic then dismantle it.
@@frantisekzverina473 how do you make sure the pumps don't break?
@@ironboy3245 I assume you mean the crude oil pumps. You can usually find pockets of crude oil that is colder than 125°C. If not you can use pitcher pump and bottle emptier to dump some of the hot oil onto some cold tiles and then pump it.
i use the hot water to keep a room for slickters hot, it keeps the room hot enough for me to pump cold CO2 from a geyser into it to keep them happy
Any tips on how to best progress to the midgame? I've started a normal run on the easy map food and oxygen aren't an issue heat is still manageable. I'm on cycle 70-80 I feel I should be transitioning slowly to the midgame. I've thought about running petrolium generators but there was not 1 arbor tree in my starting biome or the adjacent ones for ethanol. I thought about plastic but I have only a single drecko reproducing super slow. I need steel as well but I don't have the ore. All these advanced buildings require either plastic or steel. or other refined metals to work properly. I guess your not supposed to use the ore crusher for all your needs. What should I focus on? Ceramic to line my base? steel? plastic? Each of these feels like a megaproject. to get proper industrial levels of production.
I found a geyser with water but it's going to need so much power and effort to tame it just for a bit of cooling? for a net power cost?
I think of the mid-game as starting when you begin wanting to produce steel and plastic. If you don't have the experience yet then it takes some effort to figure out how it all works.
I think the first step is getting access to oil biomes. You can crush the fossil you mine into lime so you can make steel in the metal refinery, and you can refine the oil into petroleum to make plastic with the polymer press.
There are dangers. Oil biomes tend to be hot enough to hurt/kill your dupes, so you might need atmo suits to keep them safe. And everything about steel/plastic production generates a lot of heat. So you probably need some kind of cooling set up. The first time you do this it will feel a bit like there are several big complicated things that you have to learn and build before you can do the one seemingly simple thing that you need to do.
It isn't easy your first time around, the mid-game is where ONI starts making you really think, and it can be a lot of work and planning.
There's a fair chance that you'll lose your colony a couple times before you get the hang of it. But if it were easy then it wouldn't be fun, and once you get the experience you'll have strategies for accomplishing these tasks without it being a whole ordeal. You'll get good at it and it will be easier and you'll be ready to do the next big thing.
Early game -> 3 turbines, aquatuner and oil. Yeah... In earty game just leave it open and let some piece of environment tank the heat. Though, idea to use turbines as energy-free mini-pumps is nice.
You are absolutely right. But then it wouldn't be a tamed vent.
@@tonyadvanced6315 would it be possible to dump some of the water back into the main turbine tank to increase the runtime of the turbines during the dormancy period of the geyser?
I like this, now I have some ideas for later. Early game, I generally just dump the water into a cold biome, melt it and then pump the chilled water back into my base.
There's too much hot water and little for cold water.
If the hot water storage is full, you need to cool down the hot water further, or deletes it to electrolyzer.
The only thing what i would add to this build is an extra Liquid pipe thermo sensor. I made that mistake, that the extra water from my base was less than 14 degrees, so it just damaged my pipes.
Great video. This setup helped me! But bubbles are air, pockets of liquid.
This is ingenious! I always struggle with the hot water and i hate spending so much power to cool it. You mentioned you had a use for the hot water. What do you use it for ?
I suppose the easiest thing is to feed it to electrolyzers for oxygen. I'm pretty sure the oxygen produced is about the same temperature regardless of the water you use.
@@tonyadvanced6315 No, not anymore. It's gonna spit out at 95 C.
@@IlnickiStudios Indeed.
Still good use of hot water. 95C Oxygen is easier to cool than 95C Water.
hot water for oxygen and oil wells, cold water for base cooling or plants if you want to use it.
Hey so I´m trying the build but the liquid shutoff won´t allow the loop to flow unless it is to eject the cold water. Has this been updated or am I missing something?
Thanks for the knowledge :)
Edit: Figured it out by mistake, both sides of the shutoff were flowing towards it. A pipe bridge to set a direction did the trick!
REALLY NICE setup... will you be uploading the step by step guide & pictures to the Oxygen Not Included steam community's guides section?
P.S. do you know what an oil well is, because I can't figure out how to build the oil refiner without it?
Me, just sticking a gold amalgam pump at the bottom of the pool at letting it vibe for hundreds of cycles: *Interesting*
But at some point, you will get a 110°C Steam room, with no liquide water.
You still have to cool the Steam down to at least 95°C.
What I do is just putting 4 ww in an hydrogen room next to it (with auto sweeper for phosphore), to get this result
So you don't need much cooling for that amount of time. Try a hot starting asteroid 😅
Hi, i relly like your direct way in showing of the things you made. i would like to see an early, easy to setup, temporary metal refinery (without gold or steel) and setup for a "power overflow" (i got some self powered modules with too much power production and i want to put that power into my maingrind if the battery is becoming full.)
If you can, just get rid of the battery in your self powered things altogether and wire them into your main grid. They don't use/produce more/less power by virtue of making it themselves and storing it in a battery. But... designing a main grid that makes that straightforward can be tricky.
What about the metal refinery is tricky? Is it overheating? Liquids breaking pipes?
@@tonyadvanced6315 I am on Arboria, so i have no access to gold and golden aquatuners. i always used to use one in combination with a water sieve to cool down my first metal refinery. But now im not sure how to get coolant.
Hey man. This is a great little tutorial. Thanks for putting it together.
Oil and diamond are mid-game? Jesus I still have so far to go
I wish everyone else did their videos like this one. Everyone has everything built, or they don't show the automation or something, and then I'm lost.
seems kinda unstable... I just keep a pool of water under the vent and run a cooling loop through that and around the vent. it can get a little warm when it's erupting but cools off when it's not so it kinda evens out and works well enough.
i'm wondering if I should clear out the gasses in the steam room, before turning everything on?
Tony,
I was able to adjust your system and produce only cold water, disable 1 steam turbine.
With mods that allow you to see the calculated output of geysers its easier to see how many turbines you need for your exact steam vent. Also besides that you could put a liquid tank as a buffer allowing the turbines to continue working the aqua tuner until all the water comes out cold. Epic build.. I'm gonna test it.
Thanks Tony
Makes it less efficient because the vent will sometimes shut off, unless it produces less than 2kg/s which is when you dont need 2 turbines either way
Has anybody tried this recently?? I think they have made some tweaks to the game that makes this unusable without steel, I just built it on my 400 cycle game exactly to specs and the aquatuner is constantly overheating, I tried various methods to cool the aquatuner but anything I do cools the steam too much too, once the room reached 130c the aquatuner goes above 200c and constantly overheats
You can also plug the hot water to an electrolyzer so it eats more heat, and hydrogen generator to make it self seffucient, this way you get cold water, slightly less hot water, but more power and oxygen. And you can use the cold water to cool the oxygen. However I can't make it work. My cooling loop keeps emptying when the geyser goes idle, so I need to pump more water in, at the cost of more power.
Hmm. That's strange. If you post a screenshot somewhere and give me the link I'll have a look if you like.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Cool, I'll try to re-create it in my new game, as soon as I have time to play..
How does the rightmost steam turbine stay cool when the radiant pipe only goes off to the left? I have trouble keeping my turbines cool even when I zigzag radiant pipes all around them
Why won't you make a bridge contraption before the aquatuner to combine packets of water into 10kg each? You're wasting energy. Maybe that's why it's not energy suficient.
new water being cycled in should stack up while queued to enter cooling loop, adding 10kg packets as it empties... but yeah, full pipes are happy pipes
I very much appreciate this build. Looking forward to incorporating it in my base. Nicely explained and if you become slightly more fluent i'd say that your videos are top tier ONI content.
What do you mean by "fluent"?
@@tonyadvanced6315 Well what i was trying to say that you sometimes were struggling to find the right word and the flow of the video seemed interrupted. But rewatching the video I couldnt really find any severe cases of this. So I guess I shouldnt have said anything. Anyway I do think that this is a great video, so thank you!
@@headnut57 You are definitely right about that. I literally edit my videos to piece together my sentences so they make sense. Luckily, I seem to be getting better at it.
Does this still work in the 2022 version? I built this in the wild using this guide and the steam never got above about 110 degrees.
The aquatuner is made of gold amalgam right? and has an overheat temp of 125 degrees? but the crude oil thermal sensor is made to heat the place up to 130 degrees. doesnt that mean the aquatuner is going to stop working? supposedly.
Gold amalgam aquatuners have an overheat temperature of 175C.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Ah, my bad, it seems my current aquatuner was actually made of iron Thx for the clarification
not that early but definetly a cool setup :).
Would it be fine to add more acquatuners to cool other things in the area? I suspect it would be more complicated that just adding turbines
For more consistant cold water temperature use a liquid tank for averaging it instead of your buffer. In yours bubbles don't mix
I can't get the steam hot enough before the pipe from the aquatuner breaks from cold damage. Then the leaking water cools down the oil.
I eventually replaced the piece of pipe with steel and then got the temperature of the oil and the steam to 155 degrees before the steel pipe broke. The problem is the steam stays between the 2nd and 3rd row of the chamber but never gets to the top row to reach the steam turbines. It is as if the oxygen is blocking the steam from rising to the top.
@@elizedebeer7085 you need to create a vacuum to not have oxygen in the room
Really nice video! Love how you explain it really easy for beginners like me! One questions though, will the Aquatuner overheat eventually?
You have to make the aquatuner out of gold amalgam. That will make it's overheat temperature 175C. It should stay at around 140C with this setup. If it doesn't then something is wrong.
How can we solve it if we haven't reached oil already? Is there any other cooler than can make the deal?
In that case I can't think of any way to handle it besides cooling down the steam until it turns to water. I bet the easiest way would be to put wheezeworts near the vent, and that it could be made in a clever way to maximize the efficiency. I'm certain that there are many demonstrations of good builds for doing this available here on UA-cam and in various online forums.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Yes jaja, it's quite difficult to do it because creative mode is quite different to real game and all the materiales are needed. But instead of an early build is quite cool for a medium base ^^ thx for the respones!
Get a dispenser, get an Ice maker, drop Ice on the floor with the dispenser, see If It cools up, i might try this later to cool my pool
Just run coolant from a smelter, if you are making steel using oil as a coolant it will flash into petrol then for 1000watts you have petrol, heat and smelted metal all in one
This build isn't really working for me. My geyser was pretty big, at 9 kg/s, and I had not only overpressure problems, but I also had a problem with the turbines getting the 'Turbine too hot' error when they go above 100C. This isn't like normal overheating, the turbines still animate but they don't produce power and water. I don't understand that mechanic or what to do about it. Your steam needs to be 125C and your turbine needs to be less than 100C. Sounds like we need further steps to make that happen.
The issue is that while I'm cooling water, I'm losing most of the water produced by the geyser because I have to constantly refill the loop with outside water as the turbines won't do it. There is a delicate balance here somewhere that I'm not finding.
Overpressure can be a problem with a powerful vent like yours. I think you should be able to manage it by having a chamber for the steam that is a couple tiles taller. Also, make sure you have enough steam turbines.
I don't know why you are having trouble with the turbines overheating. If you post screenshots on imgur or something and give me the link I"ll have a look.
I'm going to try the radiant pipes and I'll get back to you. I didn't catch that part.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Yeah, it works much better now with the radiant pipes there. Thanks for the great vid.
Hey Tony! This video inspired me to try a few ideas today (I spent most of my day playing). I would love you to see my design. I made a Reddit Post about it. It's called: "PSA: Forget aquatuners, it's possible to tame a cold steam turbine with the heat of 2 Steel Power Transformers."
Omg. That sounds awesome! I will check it out at work today.
I'm having so much trouble heating up the water to pass 125 C. Any tips?
Why does the cold water eject when it’s too cold? What triggers that?
how do you get your dupes to build this and get it started in a game?
I have questions, how about cooling the 95°C water further?
If you use it in an electrolyzer: Don't cool the water, cool the oxygen.
If you need cooler water,
1) quick&dirty: just build another aquatuner and run it through it
2) more elegant: use a heat exchanger like in many other videos to get the exact temperature you need.
@@weltraumvogel2
Agreed. Cooling the water from the vent it's just unnecessary chores. Also :
Don't bother cooling the oxygen that went to the atmo suits. Dupes has no problem breathing warm O² in the atmo suits. You only need to cool the Oxygen that goes to your base.
Late game, i mix the steam geyser with an aqua tuner to mass produce steam for rocket fuel and then a steam turbine.
I'm a new player and I have a question, since I already have hot/cold water supplies from a cool steam vent, but without the steam turbine, what would I get from using this method aswell in another cool steam vent I have laying around? power? I'm struggling a bit with power since I depend a lot on hydrogen/natural gas vent but I think once the natural gas vent goes dormant, I'm gonna have some issues with it. Thanks!
This doesn't produce power, but it uses very little power compared to other approaches.
@@tonyadvanced6315 So mostly the benefit from this is to get a constant flow of hot/cold water or am I missing something? haha. I assume it would be better than my aproach since I dont have to use 1.2kW from my base, right?
On that regard, do you have any videos where I could get some pointers for midgame power gains? I'm using 2 natural gas generators and 2 hydrogen ones but it doesn't seem to be enough (the natural gas coming from a geyser).
Great content btw!
I always have a drecko(plastic and fiber) ranch early so I could build this really early
I don’t think this is a practical early game build. The power requirements for the aquatuner are too high for early game (how many generators did you need to start it up?), and you’re a long way along the tech tree here. And plastic is needed too.
The plastic was an oversight, I wouldn't consider it to be an early game thing (for most players).
The net power requirement is different for every vent, but it's consistently 45 joules per kg of water produced. That's kind of like a 10kg/s water pump that uses 480 watts. If you can run two water pumps and build a battery, then you can do this.
Yeah, I see the net power once it’s at a steady state, but to get this up and running you have to power the aquatuner for long enough to boil the water and start getting some power back. That’s what, three hydrogen generators dedicated to this for several cycles? It’s fine in sandbox when you don’t have to worry about startup, but in survival mode startup is a huge challenge. To build it the way you have you either have to dump hot water into your base, or take many cycles at high energy use to boil that water. It’s an interesting concept, I enjoyed the video, and I like your content, but this one can’t be done very easily in survival.
@@ermintrude9634 I don't think water is ever boiled at all anywhere. Also, the video demonstrates it working near full capacity after about 1/8th of a cycle for warmup, that's about 75 seconds of running the aquatuner. (Startup begins at about 11:56, with cold oil and everything, I think.)
Does not compute in my head, how are three turbines "eraly game"?
I guess it depends. Plastic is a kinda mid-game thing, so I guess they are mid-game.
How is oni running on linux fof you? I have it in the epic store and i cant get that to run.
It's awesome. But the graphics settings tell it to display in ONE pixel by default. So you have to edit that before the game will work. I know nothing of the epic store so I don't know if that makes a difference. I'm using steam. I'll find the post about how to edit that problem and put it here for you.
EDIT: I don't know if this is STILL a problem, but it was when I started playing ONI.
Have a look at this comment imgur.com/vHgvOkh.
It's from this forum thread forums.kleientertainment.com/forums/topic/97287-trouble-shooting-linux-issue-of-starting-with-a-black-screen-and-you-here-the-background-music-playing-it-is-solved-in-this-thread-but-i-still-need-help/
(I'm new player and I don't understand few thing, don't cringe at me )
1 steam turbine produce 850 watts of energy. Multiple it by 3 and its 2550 watts. Termo aquatuner consumption is 1200 watts. So why it isn't self-sufficient?
If i wrong with my math, can you hook hot water output up to electrliser and use hydrogen generator to make it self-sufficient.?
Steam turbines generate less than 850 watts if the steam temperature is less than 200C. You can certainly generate some power via hydrogen by electrolyzing water, I'm not sure about how all the dynamics work out if you include that in the setup.
Given that there are no wheezeworts / AETNs, what exactly deletes the heat in your build? This looks like a bug/exploit.
Aha, got it, it's the turbine that only heats up by 10% of the energy removed from the steam. Ugh. I still feel as if this is a bug though.
As law of physics say, energy must Go somewhere, in case of the steam turbines, that energy becomes electricity.
@@ByMorraDiabo The *other* law of physics says that it still ultimately turns into heat as that electricity is used up by other machines. But it doesn't: this build deletes heat as it turns hot water into cold water while never melting itself, therefore at least one of the devices in this build has to be "magical".
Also Carnot's theorem.
Basically the turbine+aquatuner combo consumes electricity *and* deletes heat.
@@ByMorraDiabo hmm also ua-cam.com/video/907Fgud_AX8/v-deo.html
could you make an blueprint of this since im stupid and building something wrong
I'll look and see if I still have it.
This is a really nice setup, but I can't make it to run! Does somebody have issues with the automation? My thermo sensor that controls the aquatuner says that it is sending a green signal (temperature is 85
I can help you. What you are describing sounds like a bug that happens a lot. Switch the thermo sensor to "above" and then back to "below", if that doesn't fix it then post a screenshot of your automation and I'll have a look.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Thanks, twiking the parameter didn't work. So I just built a new one just a tile further from the geyser, and it worked. Now it runs perfectly! Thanks for the vids, I like to see your experiments, keep going!
or you could make a room in vent, vaccumate it. Make room 4 tiles minimum below neutronium with atleast one tile open so water can flow in. Place pump it room below. Boom you got compact, easy, simple tamer(Steam should instanly turn into water). The only con that it will heat up your base. But hey, do you really have plastmass in earlygame?
did the setup but im not hitting steam 130 maybe 2 secs pr eremit not really working or maybe i do it wrong
Will you post a screenshots? It's an easy one to make a small mistake.
@@tonyadvanced6315 im sry i already startet a new base its my thing i end ad the era of heat...and end up restarting cyzz of dublicant pocolypse....some day il maybe make a rocket :)
You are the real Cool Steam Vent MVP
For some reason I cannot recreate this. Everything goes wonky and fails and breaks.
Hmm. If you post a screenshot of it somewhere and give me the link I'll have a look at it.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Your newest video I believe answers the problem. The amount of preexisting steam was the issue. The set up only works if you clear the room and start out with low pressure steam. My room was too slow to resolve the problem and ended up turning into a high pressure steam room just like the first room of your newest video.
@@thepay128 Ah! Good news. Thank you. I'll put this vulnerability in the addenda so other people can be aware of it.
I'm a newb and just bought this game when it released so I guess my definition of Early Base is different than yours. I'd say steel steam turbines are definitely mid game. I mean, if you have a way to produce steel reliably then what do you even have left besides rocketry and space materials?
Give me a way to tame a cool steam vent with earlier tech please.
Naw, you are right. I forgot steam turbines use plastic when I gave it a name an now I can't really change it. (Wait... can I change the name? omg...)
steam turbines can be any material, since they turn off at 100 degrees, i always make them out of lead since you have tons of it early on and it wont melt. the plastic a tad bit of a pain but glossy drekos can usually be set up by about cycle 50 or so
Can't get that 2 bridge water loop to work
I wonder what's going wrong. Can you post a screenshot?
You will need 3 aqua tuner to produce enough heat for 2 steam turbine. I blindly tried your system and it failed in that the 1 aqua tuner cannot heat enough the steam generated by the cool steam vent to 125c fast enough.
What I think happens in your video is that you have enough heat and it will work until the steam turbine has used all the heat.
early game. no steel. no diamond and no plastic. plus on the steam turbine way more better to have hydrogen instead of oxygen, he conduct better the heat ;).
Hydrogen is neat but even chlorine would probably do the job just fine.
how about temp shifts between radiant pipe & turbine (if it's not cooling well enough due to gas type) that way you COULD have a dupe tune those generators
Thanks for the Video!
I cant make it to work! There is always oxygen that blocks steam turbine
You definitely need to get the other gasses out of the steam room. There are at least 3 ways. You can make an airlock to let your dupes in and out of the room, then use a pump to pump everything out of the room. Or, you can make holes in the top of the room to let gasses out while you get steam in it for the first time, it's trickier to do but faster once you get the hang of it. Or, you can make an airlock, freeze/liquify all the gasses in the room, and tell your dupes to mop it up, that will require some serious cooling, of course.
@@tonyadvanced6315 i'm new to game and still learning how to build in game complex building. Is there some tips how to build faster? My dupes were building this steam vent tamer 15 days. Do i need to make storage bins near build site?
I just posted a new video that shows you different ways to make a vacuum. Make your steam room into a vacuum and you should be golden.
@@pnegro22 When it seems like it takes your dupes forever to get anything done it's usually because their regular chores are taking up all of their time. For me, the first thing I usually need to do to free them up is replace my algae terrariums with an electrolyzer/carbon-skimmer setup.
Early game, lets make a steam turbine........................
Yep. I blew that one. I guess it's mid-game... or it's at least not really fair to call it "early" game.
so much water i have 2 of thise wents and now i have to much water what do i do?
A surplus of water is a good sign. Maybe electrolyze it for hydrogen power and oxygen for more dupes (make sure you have food for them).
@@tonyadvanced6315 have plenty
Video and comments are gold mine for noob like me ;D Do you also have a problem with generating a lot of slimelung your world or am I only that lucky :))(
I control slimelung by preventing polluted oxygen from getting into my base, processing slime with the algea distiller, and walling off any areas with slime that I don't want to deal with.
Idk if you still play, but i store all my slime in a storage box near a dusk cap farm and the storage is immersed in a bit of water,to prevent the slime from diffusing
This not only consumes the slime and gives you a nice food source, but gets rid of the slimelung problem
very nice!
so good vid bro thankss
can anyone pls explain why you need that buffer in the cooling loop
If the loop gets too full it stops moving (deadlock). Aquatuners sometimes do weird things and can send an empty packet around the loop. If your water input fills that packet with water then it adds extra water to the loop. If that happens enough times, then deadlock happens. The buffer makes sure any empty packets are full of water so the input doesn't add any water (unless there really isn't enough in the loop). That way deadlock is prevented.
@@tonyadvanced6315 Thx you're the best
Would it be possible to dump the hot 95C water into the steam room, letting the aquatuner heat it up and create more steam to feed the turbines?
It takes more energy to warm it up again than you can get out of it.
@@tonyadvanced6315 I see, that makes sense!
It's nice to see an ONI tutorial video, that isn't just a 2 hour long stream recording. Keep it up!
I was actually thinking about doing that since I am doing an all achievement run and need to move asap from the manual generator and most of my shine bugs are dead
this is a power negative setup so it wont work great for super sustainable, the moment i set something up like this i drained all of my hydrogen reserves in about 1 cycle and i couldnt restart it via wheels and my whole super sustainable run was ruined
I just place steam generator.. it overheat in 5 minutes, and i delete the whole thing.. i got no will to do whole enginering on a fcn vent..
Are you sure you made It of the right material? Also, the steam gen Will break If there's too much steam, If the steam is too cold, or too hot
Plastic is not early game.
You are right. I blew it on that point. I'll never live it down.
This cool* steam vent almost killed 3 of my guy when i sent them to gather the last coal dropped near it to keep my colony going 😑
The coldest steam can be is 100°C, so yeah.
@@pairot01 i thought it is like sauna
This layout didn't work well later on either. You should forget turbines for this
So, You used a lot of expensive materials to remove 85% (if i remember correctly) of 95'C water from this setup? What's the point of that? That's far from what I call effective cooling... :-/
The basic plan is to collect all the water at the lowest possible temperature using the least power.
Says early game. Then drops the ATs and Steam Turbines.
Because of plastic? In base non-dlc game you can get to oil biome with warm sweaters. 4 thimble reed and you are good to go. For research you only need water and dirt.
Put door so only dupes with sweaters do job in 80C area. Don't dive in liquid - just slap golden pump in upper layers of oil puddle -and you are set.
So you only need some research, electrical engeneer, a bit of gold and reed from swamp, few tons of refined metal.
Didnt watch the video because the entire point of it is dumb
When you start out you have things that are way more important thane taming a cool steam vent so you should just find one and stick a pump near it and let it cook the enviroment. Deal with it when you finished doing everything else or when the enviroment is too hot - by then you will have steel and you'll be able to just use an aquatuner to cool it easily (because you will be swiming in power)
Edit: with what power am I supposed to use an aquatuner in the early game (which is until you solve oxygen food refinement and electricity) you are showing a cycle 200+ tamer the video is just a clickbait.