Apparently They’re Giving Reindeer as Prizes at Elite Skiing Events
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- Today we're discussing the "reindeer prize" tradition at the Levi World Cup Skiing event, which I found out about recently when Mikaela Shiffrin won her 7th reindeer. I explore the long history between Finnish people and reindeer, reindeer tourism in Finnish Lapland, and the general concept of giving animals as "gifts."
Intro 00:00
Context 00:41
Mikaela Shiffrin 01:35
FIS World Cup Series 01:55
Levi ski event 02:09
History between Finnish people and reindeer 02:55
How are reindeer used to make money? 04:25
Farm where prize reindeer live 06:06
Reindeer meat and cognitice dissonance 09:29
Ethical standards and how we define them 11:40
Why do humans love animal tourism? 13:04
Are culture & history an excuse? 14:30
Animals as gifts 17:38
Reindeer gift as promotion for tourism 18:32
Final thoughts 19:14
Final thoughts 20:08
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What do we think? Do I win the award for “Most Random Deep Dive of 2023”?
Me: “I’m going to make this a shorter/easier video. I want to explore the topic but am not going to go into too much depth.”
Also me: “I found this study in a Danish Veterinary Journal”
What? Seriously? I've never heard of this. It's disturbing how even after 5 yrs of being vegan, I *_still_* keep learning about ways humans are cruel and exploitative to animals. This will be an interesting watch.
Same. Humans never cease to amaze me with their cruelty 🙁
I literally thought Scrooge McDuck was the character from A Christmas Carol
Mickey's Christmas Carol, yes.
🤦🏻♀thanks for clarifying. Maybe I'll add it to my holiday watch list 😂@@v_zach
@@TotallyForkable It's a good one. I've watched it twice already this season. There are some unfortunate references to animals as part of Christmas feasts, but I can give it a break as it is 40 years old, and the original story is much older. Scrooge McDuck goes back long before Mickey's Christmas Carol by the way.
This information makes we want to watch Frozen again for the "Reindeers are better than people" song.
Haha, I forgot about that song! But yes, very appropriate for the theme and setting of this video! ☃️
Thank you for bringing awareness to the reindeer’s plight. It never ceases to amaze me the extent to which humanity’s parasitism reaches. I appreciate your investigative content and hope you start hitting the algo soon.
Yes it feels like we're always learning something new and disheartening 💔 Thanks for the comment and the kind words!
Cue the 'indigenous tho' and 'culture tho' commenters. However, this is a clear case of 'capitalism tho', animal exploitation and cruelty.
The same arguments have been used to excuse huskies pulling sleds here in Canada, but we had a pretty eye-opening documentary a few years ago which showed just how cruel this is too.
Yes and as I said in the video there’s no comparing the way things were hundreds or thousands of years ago to the modern capitalist world we live in. The indigenous people weren’t using slaughterhouses and cruel transport practices hundreds of years ago, so why do some people act like the ethics of it can’t be touched today?
And yes, dog sledding is an adjacent industry that is unfortunately even more widespread. I’m so glad the documentary opened people’s eyes to the cruelty of it. It’s amazing was “Blackfish” did to turn people against SeaWorld 🙌🏻🙏🏻
Not sure why it's a "clear case of capitalism." Giving away animals like they're kitchen appliances or furniture has nothing to do with it. It's just pure speciesism and devaluing animals as disposable things.
I think it’s all of it. Viewing animals like they’re disposable sums up the reindeer prize tradition, but capitalism explains why the herding industry has become less humane overall.
This is not a capitalism issue. Animal exploitation happens under communism just as much if not more so, and that includes human exploitation. Of course we don’t live in a purely capitalist society, because that would mean there is no government confiscating property through coercion and interfering with market activity.
Another way of treating reindeer as inanimate objects. I'm sick.
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This is a minor critique but you keep referring to reindeer as "wild," but they are domestic animals. That distinction is not insignificant. It's the reason "exotic pets" essentially require you to be a zookeeper to keep them happy and healthy. They are wild (though they may be tamed) and they don't have thousands of years of genetic changes due to a relationship with humans (like dogs, cats, wheat etc). I still agree with your sentiments that the reindeer shouldn't be given as prizes, but they are not wild animals
As far as I understand, they are semi-domesticated, so some are wild, some are domesticated. And just because some have been domesticated does not mean that they should be. The human intervention has been done solely to profit from them/benefit the humans. They would be completely fine without human intervention, unlike cats or dogs which have very little chance of surviving int he wild because they have literally evolved to be cared for inside of human homes.
@@TotallyForkable semi domesticated means they haven't been domesticated in a way that makes them markedly different from their wild counterparts, but there /are/ genetic differences between domestic reindeer and wild reindeer. However, that's not really my point. I just mean that I feel it's a little misleading to refer to the reindeer in this situation as wild considering afaict they were not captured from wild herds but descend from domestic herds. They have lived around humans their whole lives. Again, that doesn't change how I feel about their treatment; I don't think they should be killed or given as prizes. And yes, it's true, basically every species humans have domesticated was domesticated for the benefit of humans, including dogs, though I'm not sure what the consensus is on cats but I'd be surprised if ancient humans didn't think they benefited from the presence/labor of cats at all. I'm not that interested in arguing whether some species "should" have been domesticated, since it already happened and we can't change that. What's important is what we do about it now.
They actually only get to name a reindeer nit like there putting it on a plane and taking it back to America.i live in levi and know for a fact they don't win a reindeer.your lieing
Did you watch the video? I stated all of this.