Considering how notorious the complaints of the film 'not being historically accurate' are, I can't help but see that final line as incredibly hilarious. To the point that I'm pretty sure he's being ironic there, which may or may not go over some heads. The fact that Pocahontas, in the film, does not even wear that dress he sketches her in the 'look how accurate this is' comparison sketch kind of helps drive that point home. Either way, Glen Keane is wonderfully talented!
Since Pocahontas was designed completely as an Asian except on profile where her face curves out protrudingly, she is a pride of Asians. As Native Americans do have straight hair, if Pocahontas had naturally silky straight hair that was thick, I can tell you that that's low-maintenance. All she has to do is wash it periodically. So a pretty Native American girl who had this hair could be as glamourous as the Disney Pocahontas. Since Viriginia is not plains, a young Native American wouldn't have bad skin.
You have to look at the style of the art of the time. And it is sad that everyone seems happy to make a joke out of both Pocahontas and the artist who created that portrait... who cares if the portrait meets today’s standards of beauty/“the girl next door”? Pocahontas was a brave, impressive woman and she continues to be an important person in the study of US Women’s history. She deserves more credit than a conversation about how attractive she was. It would have been nice if capturing the essence of the person had been more of a goal of the movie and the illustration.
He’s an artist, his job is not to talk about the real Pocahontas, and her personality and shit, but to explain the reasoning behind his artistic decisions, and her character design
@@Uurm0m yes 💖 hi isnt there for telling the real history, hi there because is an artist desing characters. The picture of the real is Just for the joke, he Just need know the history from the movie because the character is for that (sorry for my inglish)
Dude seriously thinks all human beings have a one-dimensional cultural map in their heads, and it has a big fat Disney label written all over... I hope he knows people have had legions of illustrated books and most people have other images popping in their heads when thinking of the beast or the little mermaid etc etc THANK GOD !!!! And Asian, European or African people (just to name a few) won't have the same style of image in mind. Praise the Lord Hallelujah not all cultural imaginings are Disney stamped ! ;)
Considering Pocahontas was a real person and how inaccurate the film was compared to her actual life I wondered why they decided to base it off her in the first place, I mean they could’ve just changed her name and John smith’s and it would’ve worked out without the whole issue of both their stories not being similar at all
Blurryink Because “Pocahontas” is not just a historical name but a symbolic part of the American experience. Every person and their grandmother knows the legend; this was meant to be the big-budget, definitive version of it. The legendary names of Pocahontas and John Smith have the same appeal as other iconic fairy tale and folkloric characters that Disney has adapted. It’s part of that appeal.
That engraving of her from 1616 by Simon van de Passé is actually considered to be well-made and fairly accurate to what her facial features would’ve looked like. Look up the 1994 Mary Ellen Howe recreation of the engraving. Howe spent years studying the facial features of Virginia Indians such as the Pamunkey, Mattoponi, and Rappahannock. It’s hard to tell in its original black and white form, but that engraving truly does reflect many of the common facial features of Virginia natives and is likely very accurate to Pocahontas’ real face. It’s kind of sad how Glen Keane and the audience just howl with laughter at it.
Pocahontas Voice Irene Bedard Singing Voice Judy Kuhn Supervising Animator Glen Keane Animators Mark Henn Pres Antonio Romanillos Randy Haycock Michael Show Tom Bancroft Bob Bryan Trey Finney Aaron Blaise Doug Krohn Ken Hettig Brad Kuha Tom Gately Gilda Palinginis John Ripa Ralph Palmer Eric Walls
I think they are talking about the original drawing of pocahontas that glen keane was comparing his to. Glen keane's drawing of pocahontas is way better.
@Bobert WiltshireHe's doing roughs in a few seconds. It's more about flow an the overall impression. Obviously if he was illustrating I doubt he would spent 2 seconds on eyes and go "Okay done".
"I don't know why I get all these characters with long hair..". It's funnier knowing he'll do Rapunzel in the future.
“I don’t know why I get all these characters with long hair..”. It’s funnier knowing he’ll do Rapunzel in the future.
Considering how notorious the complaints of the film 'not being
historically accurate' are, I can't help but see that final line as incredibly hilarious. To the point that I'm pretty sure he's being ironic there, which may or may not go over some heads. The fact that Pocahontas, in the film, does not even wear that dress he sketches her in the 'look how accurate this is' comparison sketch kind of helps drive that point
home. Either way, Glen Keane is wonderfully talented!
ANMAnation yeah he was bei funny
I wish Glenn would come out of retirement to work at Disney again.
Since Pocahontas was designed completely as an Asian except on profile where her face curves out protrudingly, she is a pride of Asians. As Native Americans do have straight hair, if Pocahontas had naturally silky straight hair that was thick, I can tell you that that's low-maintenance. All she has to do is wash it periodically. So a pretty Native American girl who had this hair could be as glamourous as the Disney Pocahontas. Since Viriginia is not plains, a young Native American wouldn't have bad skin.
You have to look at the style of the art of the time. And it is sad that everyone seems happy to make a joke out of both Pocahontas and the artist who created that portrait... who cares if the portrait meets today’s standards of beauty/“the girl next door”? Pocahontas was a brave, impressive woman and she continues to be an important person in the study of US Women’s history. She deserves more credit than a conversation about how attractive she was. It would have been nice if capturing the essence of the person had been more of a goal of the movie and the illustration.
He’s an artist, his job is not to talk about the real Pocahontas, and her personality and shit, but to explain the reasoning behind his artistic decisions, and her character design
@@Uurm0m yes 💖 hi isnt there for telling the real history, hi there because is an artist desing characters. The picture of the real is Just for the joke, he Just need know the history from the movie because the character is for that (sorry for my inglish)
Wasn't the animated Pocahontas designed to look like the supermodels of the time?
I love Glen but I did not like it when he said pocahauntas was ugly
@Bobert Wiltshire lol
Boohoo.
He wasn’t calling her ugly specifically. The contrast in the original portrait isn’t exactly flattering.
yeah agree with u and how people laughed and clapped, just seems weird and uncomfortable
When tho lmao? He made practical jokes to entertain the audience...
Bandeira kkkkkkkkkk
Dude seriously thinks all human beings have a one-dimensional cultural map in their heads, and it has a big fat Disney label written all over...
I hope he knows people have had legions of illustrated books and most people have other images popping in their heads when thinking of the beast or the little mermaid etc etc
THANK GOD !!!! And Asian, European or African people (just to name a few) won't have the same style of image in mind.
Praise the Lord Hallelujah not all cultural imaginings are Disney stamped ! ;)
Considering Pocahontas was a real person and how inaccurate the film was compared to her actual life I wondered why they decided to base it off her in the first place, I mean they could’ve just changed her name and John smith’s and it would’ve worked out without the whole issue of both their stories not being similar at all
Blurryink
Because “Pocahontas” is not just a historical name but a symbolic part of the American experience. Every person and their grandmother knows the legend; this was meant to be the big-budget, definitive version of it. The legendary names of Pocahontas and John Smith have the same appeal as other iconic fairy tale and folkloric characters that Disney has adapted. It’s part of that appeal.
That engraving of her from 1616 by Simon van de Passé is actually considered to be well-made and fairly accurate to what her facial features would’ve looked like. Look up the 1994 Mary Ellen Howe recreation of the engraving. Howe spent years studying the facial features of Virginia Indians such as the Pamunkey, Mattoponi, and Rappahannock. It’s hard to tell in its original black and white form, but that engraving truly does reflect many of the common facial features of Virginia natives and is likely very accurate to Pocahontas’ real face. It’s kind of sad how Glen Keane and the audience just howl with laughter at it.
Sad sad world
He’s making jokes to entertain the audience lmao, it really isn’t that deep
@@Uurm0m exactly
Hope she sees this bro.
Gringos what you expect
Back when Disney was original
Yes 😢
You can’t say this when the two characters being shown here are either a known fairy tale and a historical figure lmao
no they where not original they where using stories that where already created. They just happen to animate them well.
Glen Keane draws Ariel from The Little Mermaid 1:07 - 2:12 and Pocahontas 2:17 - 3:49 from Pocahontas on the Disney Channel in June 1995.
Pocahontas
Voice
Irene Bedard
Singing Voice
Judy Kuhn
Supervising Animator
Glen Keane
Animators
Mark Henn
Pres Antonio Romanillos
Randy Haycock
Michael Show
Tom Bancroft
Bob Bryan
Trey Finney
Aaron Blaise
Doug Krohn
Ken Hettig
Brad Kuha
Tom Gately
Gilda Palinginis
John Ripa
Ralph Palmer
Eric Walls
Hi 2020 people
Just wanted to say... enjoy the video!
Oh man. That old drawing is horrible.
ever heard of a rough concept?
I think they are talking about the original drawing of pocahontas that glen keane was comparing his to. Glen keane's drawing of pocahontas is way better.
@Bobert WiltshireHe's doing roughs in a few seconds. It's more about flow an the overall impression. Obviously if he was illustrating I doubt he would spent 2 seconds on eyes and go "Okay done".