@@astreusastresus198 One issue with him beating up S class means he will probably run into Saitama before Blast gets involved. Although it would probably be sort of funny to see Omni-Man get the Mosquito Girl treatment.
@@astreusastresus198 good point. Multiple times in the Invincible multiverse, we're shown that viltrumites, even the strongest ones, can't do much against dimensional transfers. Omniman had to threaten some aliens to send him back to Earth. And after killing Angstrom, Mark was left stranded in a different dimension and had no way to get back until he was found by . Even without dimension transfer, Blast reacted to a bloodlusted Saitama and Garou, who were about to casually either destroy a sector of space the size of a galactic filament (multigalactic, minimum), or at least send out a kugelblitz blacking out that section of space.
People don’t know this because it’s a deleted chapter but the king engine is the top weakness for viltrumites and anyone will instantly explode if they hear it
In the anime (maybe it's not canon) nolan shows his speed when he destroys a planet when passing through a portal, planet which contains atmosphere. Like he literally destroy the planet surface in matter of seconds
@@Wilky971 even light speed can easily do that by hitting the atoms before they can move out of the way, causing them to combust which would create nuclear fission wherever you're going, aka anything moving 99% the speed of light will just be a world ending bomb
This is because there isnt anything slowing them down and so they are able to just constantly accelerate. Which is why they cant go ftl anywhere else or in any other context.
@@toweroffrogs9470 i already knew that but if they were to fight it would not be in space so the s class destroy and there speed advantage is non existent.
Flashy flash alone would be impossible to deal with for, especially if he gets his weapon this time, we can see him going on the offensive. Multi-continental esp from tatsumaki to hold him down, AB Bang, Bofoi with an unimaginable amount of robots and weapons, Darkshine to tank is all that's needed. Current Genos and the other heroes too would be overkill
Omni Man is capable of exploding Mercury though, and he's faster than any of the S class. What can they realistically do that can hurt him or catch him off guard?
@@d.a.u.d None of the S class can handle Nolan. Even if they all worked together and fought as one. Flashy Flash isn't faster than Nolan. If there was a character the speed of light that raced Nolan, in comparison of the speed difference between them, the speed of light character would have finished the race in 4 years in the time it would have taken Nolan a week. This scales to his reaction and combat speed too As for his DC/AP, Nolan tanked the bottom portion of Viltrum exploding on top of him. He doesn't scale to the planetary destruction, but he does scale to the initial explosion, he also scales to helping overcome the Gravitational Binding Energy (Viltrum's binding energy is 1.25x that of Earth, making it many times denser as a planet while also being 1.5x bigger), he scales to launching moon sized debris at Mach 40, he scales to kicking off destruction that went so high that it went further than the ring orbiting Viltrum. This is comparable to flying through Mercury, and tanking the explosion of the whole planet He also scales Mark hitting an Earth sized moon out of Mars' orbit so hard that the moon was moving faster than spaceships that took place in the same comic, and causing it crash into the planet There's also Thragg's statement of 37 Viltrumites tearing Earth in half. It's hypothetical but if that actually happened as it was said, the Viltrumites who scale to Nolan would be creating a consistent feat of Nolan helping destroy Viltrum and Mark crashing into the moon The S class don't stand a chance in any way. Even Boros and Monster Garou are arguable to lose a fight. Only Blast stands a chance
@@lucasbroome1048 flight speed in space has no correlation to fighting speed, in space omniman is just flying in a straight line, obviously that’s going to be faster than he can change directions and even reaction speed
@@lilricebowl9731 "flight speed in space has no correlation to fighting speed" For the Viltrumites it does since they experience time dilations. Their reaction and combat speed scales to their flight speed "in space omniman is just flying in a straight line" That's only when he's traveling. When he's fighting it's another story. He even says to Mark that he has to chain combo attacks to keep up with their speed otherwise he'll lose
Honestly? No, as mentioned before he gets rekt by the rip off justice league when invincible warns them in an alternative timeline. Tatsumaki herself is too much for him.
The Guardians would only scale up. I could show you a quote for how powerscaling works if you don't know why the Guardians scale up to Nolan rather than Nolan scale down
@@lucasbroome4148The most powerful of the guardians gets shit stomped by the top 3 of the hero association. In fact durability wise, darkshine would absolutely walk over the guardians of the globe. So not sure why your comment even exists
@@jonasfadi8213 "The most powerful of the guardians gets shit stomped by the top 3 of the hero association" That's not saying a lot. "In fact durability wise, darkshine would absolutely walk over the guardians of the globe" Not Immortal. Darkshine would get a whole punched in him just the same as Immortal if he fought Nolan. You can't make an argument that Darkshine is out of Immortal's durability class "So not sure why your comment even exists" Because you have to know what _powerscaling_ means if you want to powerscale genius. The lack of feats a character has doesn't mean they are weak, especially if they can harm characters that prove to be quite powerful Why even reply to me?
@@lucasbroome4148 darkshine has never once been damaged by blunt or physical attacks of all variations. from tanking carnage kabuto in a full brawl, to spiral Garou or evil natural water that could slice the entire guardians of the globe in half with its pressurized water jets. Immortal ain't gonna do shit, he'd be just trying too hard until darkshine slaps him across the city . Also the lack of feats suggest that a character has nothing to bring to the table genius , thus, you are the idiot who tries to powerscale while using pure headcanon. Nothing from what the guardians of the globe have showcased (animation and comics wise) suggest they could handle the top s Class heroes. They'd get folded in two literally. Also I replied because I felt like it, got a problem mate 0?
It is so easy for the S class to deal with Nolan lmao Just compare the Guardians of the globe to the S class, even Red Rush was able to damage Omniman. (Even if that only happened in the Cartoon Is still terrible for the fact the author of Invincible works in the Cartoon, that means he Is cool with fodder heroes like the Guardians of the globe to be able to give a battle against Omniman). And the Guardians actually defeated him in the comic when Mark traveled back in Time and warned them about Omniman. Like i told ya just compare the S Class to the Guardians. Flashy Flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Rush Zombie Man >>>>>>> Dark Wing Tatsumaki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> War Woman Darkshine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black Samson Blast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Immortal Say Put Drive Knight against the Green ghost girl and he can kill her with ease. Put Genos against the Martian Dude and he kills him with ease Put Pig Gog against the fish thing and he eats him lmao. The S Class wins Easy. Pd: don't read the replies of this comment... like i bet you have something better to do. It honestly got tiresome. If anyone wants to reply and debunk this (i don't plan to reply anymore).
that’s not how it works. Omni man in the original comic killed them immediately. He took no damage at all. When mark goes back in time there’s nothing saying that that is actually accurate and overtakes what actually happens in the beginning of the story. so everything u stated is for naught.
@@darnellwoods8986 Nah in the Cartoon they did damage him (and the creator of the comics Works in the Amazon Cartoon, if he Is ok with fodder heroes like the Guardians hurting Omniman that's on him, and that downplays the power of Omniman a lot). Even if you wanna say we go by comic accuracy. Either way the upper S Class heroes like Flashy and Tatsumaki can individually give him hell and Win. Flashy Flash fought 2 Monsters that are multicontinental in terms of power (and even if he didn't win, he was More than capable of withstanding the hits and Platinum One of the 2 Monsters he fought said he was weaker without His sword). He Is several times Faster than light for the fact he was moving in fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second. Nolan can't use his Full speed in atmosphere Given the friction in the air would cause a nuclear fusion (like It happened with the flaxans). And even then i doubt he can move in fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second like Flashy does (i doubt His combat speed Is on par with His). Either way Nolan Is in the same tier of power and strength that monster Garou and Platinum. He would never fold Flashy with a few punches for the fact Flashy has durability and strength that allow him to withstand a lot. Tatsumaki can withstand any attack of Omniman her psychic barrier around her body was able to withstand a strike from a being that could slice off a continent. And she would certainly crush him). Finally Blast would straight up kill Omniman (the guy scales to a Serious Saitama going at Full power and to Cosmic Garou a being that can manipulate reality, both of which are way above Planet buster).
@@CameraPunk5049 again cartoon isn’t comics so stop. flashy flash is no where near garou or Platnijm s so again stop with ur dumbass scaling. flashy flash is the fastest s class hero and he’s still not even close to as fast as omniman. And yes nolan can. the only reason he doesn’t is bc he cares about the civilians. in this scenario it’s bloodlusted. he’d have no regard for human life. he’d move at his full compacity, blitzing and punching a hole through every hero their before then cane even think while at the same time destroying earth bc of his speed getting rid of everyone on earth and suffocating everyone. bc of lack of oxygen. he negs
@@darnellwoods8986 He Is the closest anyone of the other S Class heroes can get so nah. Platinum and Garou are just 2 units in the clock Faster than what he Is. Flashy Flash can move in 00:00'00''00 (as we have the reference for His speed in the webcomic and this exact messurement). While Platinum and Garou could move In in the manga 00:00'00''00'''00 (just 2 units above Flashy). And no Bro again the fodder heroes of Invincible and people with no super speed can react to Omniman as opposed to regular civilians not following the action of the One Punch Man battles. G T F O get a More consistent scaling when doing Omniman.
@@CameraPunk5049 all those 0s aren’t eve close to even 500x the speed of light. omniman is a million x the speed of light minimum. so afaun stop trolling and learn ur scaling. no fodder hero is reacting to an all out omniman bud. u can’t show me one comic of omniman goinb all out and getting dodged. omniman blitzed and killed all of earrhs heros in a second. so again u got debunked and ur being disingenuous. ur a trash biased scaler
I'm surprised that they brought up the lower s class as fodder for omniman yet never mentioned zombie man to be the perfect fodder for his regeneration
This fight is actually covered pretty well by Omni Man's fights with The Immortal. He does eventually regenerate, but all he accomplishes while restored is getting clobbered all over again. Meanwhile, whatever damage he does to Omni Man is recovered after a good night's sleep on the other hand.
@chazzeo Yeah, I know but what I'm saying is maybe zombie won't do anything to omniman but his regeneration factor is much better than immortal, meaning zombie man could be the guy to save the lower s-class if they were in any danger
@@chazzeothe battle will be unending. Zombiemans regen is ridiculous, nothing kills him permanenty. Omni man can kill has several billion times and nothing will happen. Omni man own regen is enough to keep up for all that time, until Nolan eventually dies. Zombie man should be immortal, as his regen will cause him to literally never die. If it was just him he’d win in a few thousand or so years. Blast is solar system level, he no diffs. Tatsu is multi continental + and isn’t even max power, she is heavily injured with a massive head injury greatly hindering her. So at ful power healthy, she should be around small planetary/ moon level. She instantly smushes omni man. Kings king engine is the exact frequency to no diff omniman. Honestly can think of anyone else. Saitama, CF Garou, Gargoyle Garou, no one else really.
@@smthsmthsmthsmth blast is more around galaxy level. Y’all be low balling these guys too much. It’s funny too see people trying to explain a hole punched in space as just them moving the light lol.
@@donaldtrumplover2254 I thought he was multi solar because he needed help with the attack. Though if the blast is multi galaxy not galaxy then yeah he’s prolly galaxy. All about how the hole in space feat is calced
I'm pretty sure that even in the comics it took a long time to destroy a planet which needed the help of the 3 strongest viltrumites or something, and they haven't shown much speed of being at the Light Speed or the FTL range, correct me if I'm wrong though.
Their speed while flying through space was much faster than light, but personally, I think this has no basis in their combat speed and movement speed while in combat
It took Mark, noland, thaedus, and a shot from space racer. But something ppl seem to forget is that at that point in time they are considerably weaker than later in the comics at that point the three of them (the viltrumites) weren't even comparable in strength to thragg he completely outsped them and over powered them but later on they grow much stronger to the point where mark and Omni man are comparable to thragg so if it was that point in time the two of them alone could probably destroy a planet. Of course this all speculation but it's a reasonable opinion to have.
@@Chill_Februaryalso, they had just had a huge fight against the other viltrumites before flying through the planet, so they probably weren’t at full strength
Tbh Blast would be enough to win against Omni Man. Blast is much faster and he can use his spacetime abilities added with his Gravity knuckle punch to deal damage.
@@cheesefinder111 Mark in his blue suit can be argued to that too. In fact, there can be an argument that Mark tackling Allen into the moon in the beginning of the series took the same amount of force as Saitama's moon jump. The show because of how fast it was, the comic because of how high the dust was knocked
The Omni Man Fans can cry all they want. But OPM is too much for the Invincible Verse. Though id like to Clarify how Nolan would approach OPM, and if it's Nolan taking all the S Class at once or one by one. That could either give him the edge he needs to take out half until Saitama or Blast intervenes to OBLITERATE him. Cuz if Nolan foolishly goes against ALL S Class together he'll be destroyed completely, Heck, the Guardian's of the Globe in the Comics were able to defeat and capture Omni Man once Mark warned them ahead of time, and the GOG are Inferior to the S Class Heroes. Tatsumaki alone can beat them all without even moving (She's a powerful Telekinetic after all.) And Zombie Man is a better Immortal when it comes to regeneration and Immortality. Ommi Man found Cecil hard to find and beat due to his Teleportation and being in Hiding, Omni Man will be dealing with Bofoi or Metal Knight, Dr Kuseno, and Child Emperor AND Drive Knight ETC ETC ETC. OPM IS TOO MUCH FOR INVINCIBLE. The only Chance Omni Man has, is to be blessed and take the God Hand, but by then Omni Man would no longer be affiliated with the Viltrum Empire which is literally the sole reason why he's even in the OPM verse anyway 😂 he'll be a puppet of God. But most likely he'll be Obliterated by either Blast or One Punch Man, be killed by these two, or God stops seeing Nolan as useful and takes back the Divine Powers he gave Nolan killing him (Like what God did to Homeless Emperor.) Im not saying its impossible for Nolan to defeat and kill the S Class, it's just gonna be Half or Minimal Damage like 20-40% of the Members of S Class put out of commission temporarily or permanently. And that's if Nolan doesn't accidentally encounter Saitama and gets One Shotted or is Targeted by Blast, because so long as it threatens The Earth, Blast will instantly act. A whole ass Empire of Viltrumites would warrant an instant response from Blast and the Powerful Heroes he's gathered under him which would render all attempt's of espionage and trojan horse tactics useless, meaning The Viltrum Empire will have to directly get into a War with OPM Earth, which would be IMPOSSIBLE for The Viltrum Empire to defeat, cuz now its no longer S Class, IT'S ALL OF OPM, From the Monster Association to the Secret Society of Psychics to the Neo Heroes and Hero Association ETC ETC ETC, ALSO, its important to keep in mind that unlike Invincibles Universe, Normal Humans aren't made of Sand or Cakes that are easily killable, its HARD to be Weak in OPM, a weakling like Mumen Rider was able to tank hits from multiple powerful enemies like the Paradisers, Sea King etc. And the War between OPM Earth and Viltrum Empire will most likely cause more people to "Break their Limiters" and or turn into powerful Monster's or Heroes through Obsession. Another big headache for the Viltrumites to contend with as the Humans they kill or capture have a chance of becoming Monster's like those Dinosaur Aliens even Nolan had a problem beating. And God will take complete advantage of this Crises by giving "God Hands" to all his Creation's against the Viltrum Empire to find a Worthy Host. Also the Viltrumites are an endangered species. They dont actually have the Numbers to use against OPM's Earth, Saitama will most likely kill all the Powerful Viltrumites lile Conquest sent by Thragg which will only make things even harder for the Viltrum Empire to remain an Empire.
@@lucasbroome4148lmfao she fought orochikos who casually sliced an entire continent while weakened and still managed to completely eviscerate her. Also it took the combined might of three top tier viltrumites to fully destroy a planet (invincible, thadeus and Omni man). A fully healthy tatsumaki is easily gonna hold her own.
If fubuki is in danger or hurt by omniman, tatsumaki could possibly go haywire and crush omni man like mashed potatoes, just picture the ruler ost playing.
@@ivancabrera3289 No she wasn't. She didn't do anything to Saitama. Saitama ran, tried saving people, talked to King, tried to calm Tatsumaki down, tried taking the fight away, and Tatsumaki knocked herself TF out
@@ivancabrera3289 Nobody except possibly God is capable of giving Saitama a good fight. That's the entire point of the series. Though I'll admit Tats did slightly better than I thought she would, not that it makes a bit of difference in the end.
Shut the fuq up you spoilering fuq up! Drop that shit down to read more. Most of us did not read the fuqin comics like come on dude. Have respect for your fellow fans
PIS, Supreme would no dif omni man. Considering how his creator said Invincible would destroy superman to create pure controversy, there's no doubt in my mind omni-man's creator INSISTED that he won that crossover.
there's a fan animation of this which is really good. i am curious how omni man would rank against the top 6 of the heroes though. ALSO, what about King ?
For me to say Omniman could go that many times faster than light is wank. Omniman in the series is never depicted to be as fast, and i doubt Robert Kirkman ever considered the implications of his speed when he wrote the story. Those are just fan calculations.
@@mikeym.4724 Not from the anime. He's not as powerful as his manga equivalent. In fact, comic Nolan is more powerful than even Boros in almost every way except destructive capacity and healing (even then, Boros can't win with those factors)
So blast would easily kill omni man, I mean blast could react to garou and saitama who are mftl+ and blast could fighr garou and although was weaker he could still fight him without getting hit and even caught garou off guard, if blast and omni man fought the fight would go in blasts favor.
@@r.jguerra5526 i agree its a good animation, but omniman would've thrashed the S class besides blast and king but they werent in the vid from what i remember.
People complaining in comments on how “Tatsumaki isn’t accurate, she BFRs Omniman ez!” is kinda hilarious. Considering how persistent Omniman is even in his damaged state.
His fight with Saitama alone and a few statements make it hard for Omni-Man to win Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon is stated to be a star buster, that alone should give you an idea.
Flashy flash blitzes and one shots due to speed cliffing in the platinum sperm fight it was said if he had his sword he would’ve won. And they were moving mftl+
Not saying Omni-man would win but: 1. I don't ever recall it being stated that Flashy Flash would've beaten Platinum S had he had his sword. It's very clear that both Garou and Platinum S were holding back against Flashy Flash (considering how when they 1v1'd each other with Flashy Flash out of the picture they actually went faster than before). So even IF Flashy Flash had his sword, Platinum S and Garou just speed blitzes him. 2. Even the highest calcs of the constellation feat for Platinum S puts him to several hundred times FTL to maybe a few thousand. The video showed how a character significantly weaker than Omni Man is casually 70,000x FTL. And Omni Man gets stronger throughout the series as well.
@@ultimate_capper3643 Platinum S himself said Flashy Flash was weaker without his sword and asked Garou to gang up on him. And Omniman going never goes that many times faster than light in his series, as his feats never depict he can fight or move as fast. It's just the fans who do those calculations based off how he traveled from planet to planet, but none of his fights were ever depicted to be as fast and none like the "constellation" fight of One Punch Man.
@@mikeym.4724 I didn't say Flashy Flash didn't get any weaker without his sword. I said that I doubt that it would do anything considering how much faster FP Platinum S and Garou was and Flashy Flash requiring his overwhelming speed to achieve victory, I doubt he could do much. Platinum S didn't as Garou to gang up on Flashy Flash out of necessity. He just proposed to get rid of Flashy Flash faster so he and Garou can focus on more important matters, like fighting each other one on one. If you've actually read the comic, you'd realize that that's blatantly untrue. Omni Man flying 70,000x ftl isn't a one time thing. Omni Man (comics) completely speed blitzed the Guardians of the Globe, including Red Rush and The Immortal, the former being able to stop crime throughout all of Russia in the time it took for his GF to notice WHILE she was having a conversation with him. After Invincible recovered from killing Conquest in his second fight against him, he was able to, in a few hours, travel from some random solar system all the way to the Coalition of Planets Capital. Invincible was able to fly faster than an intergalactic spaceship to get to earth faster to confirm whether or not the Viltrumites have invaded earth (spoiler, they did). It's also explained that due to Subatomic particles BS, they can go MFTL speeds from guides. You make it seem like those calculations aren't accurate or shouldn't be used. Did you forget that with the exception of a few series, most feats in all of fiction are literally calculated and tiered by its fanbase (or people debating against the verse)? So saying it's unreliable really means nothing as by your logic fan calcs of every verse is not valid. So congrats, we don't know if the S class is fast now too. The reason why Omni Man or other equally fast (or faster) characters don't fight that fast is the same reason why most characters in fiction don't just speed blitz their opponents or travel around (insert distance here) when they have shown they are very fast. Plot-Induced Stupidity/author not understanding how fast they made their characters. Several times characters just get slower for no reason. Hell look at Garou. The same Garou that was able to create that constellation in 0.0012 seconds or whatever was not blitzing Sage Centipede (which average humans can react to him). So saying that Invincible characters isn’t fast because aside from that one or two fan calcs they have never shown any speed feats that show them that fast is like saying outside of two speed feats of Garou (Constellation and Saitama punching him so hard on Lo he bounced around the moon) Garou doesn’t have any speed feats showing him to be FTL. Also, how TF is Invincible supposed to depict a feat above the constellation feat? You want them to also draw Invincible characters fighting so fast they create a constellation? What exactly do you want when you're asking for that?
@@ultimate_capper3643 Platinum S and Garou were faster but even at the end of the fight Flashy was still evading and reacting to them, before he got out he managed to get a few hits (and by that point he knew they were Faster, as he said 4 guys surpassed him that day, he meant Saitama, Blast, Platinum and Garou). You can react faster than what you can move. By having the sword he would've dealt more damage against Platinum, maybe even defeat him but he wasn't going to do anything against Garou, and as other guy pointed out in the comments Flashy wasn't that far behind their speed. Secondly we never know how fast Omniman Is going in the comics, the 70, 000 times Faster than light are just calculations made by the fans (because of the statements of Omniman flying from planet to planet). In the comic his speed Is never confirmed or mentioned. And based off feats he never went like 70, 000 Times the speed of light. Sure he Is Faster than the Guardians or other beings but that doesn't prove anything. I doubt Robert Kirkman ever thought about how fast he was going. And the Guardians don't have any feats.
@@mikeym.4724 Wdym even at the end of the fight? Flashy Flash was beaten like halfway into the fight. And once again, he only fought against a non full power Platinum S and Garou; they proceeded to literally create a more condensed constellation than the 3 way fight. That’s like saying Krillin is SSJB Goku level because he managed to make a heavily Supressed SSJB Goku struggle against him in a beam clash. Not to also mention Flashy Flash was rage amped by the fact that his speed was surpassed by 4 people he just met in one day (rage can increase your power btw), so this is not a normal everyday Flashy Flash already. Once again, having a sword doesn’t matter if the people you’re using it against is faster than you. Not to also mention most of Flashy Flash’s move REQUIRE him to blitz his opponents (something he cannot do in this situation). Also who said Flashy Flash wasn’t that far behind in speed? When flashy flash was in the battle, there was no timer. When it was just Platinum S and Garou, there was a timer showing 0.0012 seconds or whatever AND showcased a more dense constellation. Whoever believes Platinum S isn’t significantly faster than Flashy Flash, especially a non enraged one is utterly delusional. Bro I already debunked this argument. By your logic since no fanmade calc can be used, we cannot accurately tier anyone in the tier if system unless the creator of the verse themselves flat out state what they’re characters are capable of. Since we can’t use Omni man’s fanmade speed calcs, we shouldn’t be able to use Garou’s as well. So congrats, now we can’t discuss this topic at all now. What’s the point in commenting about this then? Nor was it confirmed that Garou was hundreds or thousands of times FTL, yet that’s what the fanmade calcs show. Also, did you read the Invincible data books? Cause if so you’d realize how wrong you are. I already told you that there’s a guidebook that flat out says Invincible characters can go MFTL speeds using subatomic particles or whatever (chuck did a good job explaining it). So yes, it’s very well confirmed and even IF it isn’t, it is also not confirmed that Invincible characters are slow as balls too. I already disproved that. Casually blitzing a character running around every square inch of Russia and stopping crime in the same timeframe as your GF not noticing you were gone despite having a conversation with you should scale to it. So should Invincible flying so fast he OUTSPED a ship meant to travel entire GALAXIES. Or when he, in a few hours, traveled from a random solar system to the capital of the Coalition of Planets in a few HOURS. Even assuming that the distance was equal to the radius of our solar system (HUGE lowball), it would STILL be hundreds if not thousands of times FTL. By your logic Murata also likely never intended for Platinum S Garou to be hundreds to over a thousand time ftl, yrt according to some fanmade calcs that’s how fast Platinum S and Garou were when they did that feat. This last sentence you wrote proves you haven’t actually read the comic. Do it and come back to me. You’ll see just how wrong you are.
S-Class kills him, but if Omni Man somehow managed to seriously injure Bang, Tatsumaki, or Flashy Flash, then Blast gets put into the picture who can prob just teleport Omni Man next to a supermassive black hole and call it a night.
In a way Tatsumaki works the same as Martian Man being able to lock Omni-man and let his hero bros bully him. Like for example having Genos blasting him in the moustache
Blast breaks his limbs while Omni-Man is distracted by how mind-bendingly sexy Tatsumaki is. As he’s incapacitated, Puri Puri Prisoner savagely rapes him. Finally, Tatsu crushes him into a gobstopper and feeds him to Pig God.
Does Multi Continental PLUS mean Moon level? or does it mean he can destroy multiple Continents with ease while a regular multi continental person requires way more effort?
Plus means they can stomp characters in that category. If a character has a plus behind a speed factor, they can blitz characters in that category PS: I don't see Nolan as multi-continental though. It doesn't make sense
What do you think Omniman's chances are if you ignore the weird durability argument that he would just splat himself the second he punched any of the S Class heavy hitters? Assume they are fighting in the One Punch universe or a neutral middle ground setting or something. Do you think he could wear them down with hit-and-run tactics using his vastly superior speed?
I don’t think his combat speed is actually that fast, his highest speed feats are flying straight through the vacuum of space and not during combat, which the high s class definitely does. I think if he can actually move that fast and react while in combat, he’d blitz them
The real issue is the fact he is facing all of the S class. While lower tiers pose little to no threat, relatively speaking, the combined force of higher ranked members is his ultimate downfall. I think its fair to assume that Tatsumaki is the only one who can outright one shot him- Sure, guys like Genos, Flashy Flash, maybe Sliver Fang and what not can seriously hurt/cripple him but I personally(I repeat, only in my opinion) think that Omni man is resilient enough for him to not fold instantly. One other think is his experience, might be a mute point all things considered but I doubt he will fodderise low S class members and instead will aim to take out Tatsumaki or anyone else with fire power advantage right away. Not to undermine her insane durability even without the barriers or someone like Genos most likely having strong durability but I personally think she can be killed, if blitzed initially. And Genos himself is not necessarily without a weakness, mostly me assuming his core can be ripped out of his body instead of just duking it out but I can be wrong about that since I'm not a big brain in either OPM or Invincible verse. So, my conclusion is that he CAN win but most definetely doesnt. If he goes about it as he went with the Justice League knock off and lays down a trap, formulates the plan of attack and goes for the biggest threat at their weakest and succeeds at neutralising them at the start he has all the chances to solo the rest. But that would be 1 out of 100 or even 1000 fights. Rest is EZ clap by combined S class. If I got any of this wrong feel free to destroy my uneducated opinion lol. P.S. Metal Bat gets folded before he can get any of his strength since Nolan will go for the kill right away. I dunno, that fact is just funny to me for no apparent reason.
Ok maybe but the issue is Nolan wouldn’t have any idea how strong any of them are so it would be wrong to say he would instantly target tatsumaki and also he just doesn’t have enough power to rip out Genoa’s core he is way more durable than him
Also I don’t think there’s anything suggesting that the amps metal bat gets when he takes damage are temporary so I’d say metal bat currently is just as strong as he was when he fought Sage centipede
@@mrperfectcell5079 If its just a random/unexpected fight sure. I was more or less assuming it was the same scenario as when he fought the defenders of the globe group. Cuz in all fairness its just a gang stomp otherwise lol.
A little "Who Would Win?" video request: I'd love to see you tackle Boros vs Thragg. It would be interesting see the Dominator of the Universe trade blows with the strongest Viltrumite.
@@randomyoutuber2633 Boros having Star level AP with CSRC is mostly due to mistranslation from Japanese to English. The manga and anime has him saying either he'll destroy the planet outright or the planet's surface, which I think puts him the same category as Thragg.
@@randomyoutuber2633 But we don't know if he will or not, hence why I requested the match-up. Also, didn't Thragg manage to last a good while in the Sun before he died? I'm sure he could survive some of Boros' energy blows.
@@randomyoutuber2633 Thragg should be fantastically faster than Boros, has more experience than Boros, has MUCH more stamina than him, has more AP than Boros, and dare I say is more ruthless than he is. Plus, the manga said he'd destroy Earth's surface I'm pretty sure
Considering how in my eyes the guardians of the globe together are at most a low dragon and omni man took damage from that so I would say that a squad of darkshine, Silverfang, Metal Bat, Flashy Flash,Zombie man and Genos would be enough to kill or immobilise omni man
@aboveanonymous4810 but for him to reach top speed it takes a while in that time the S class could easily restrain and finish him off in reality all it realistically would take is just tatsumaki her with the rest of the s class excluding blast and king would be overkill
I like them and thier proud warrior cukture, but they're self defeating. Once they bring the galaxy under their boot, they will have eliminated the only cause that keeps them from wiping themselves out. Same thing that happens when lions eat all the antelopes; they out number them and quickly wipe antelopes out, only to instantly be wiped out themselves we they starve.
@@mrperfectcell5079 Not according to a good chunk of the fanbase. Plus, I don't think even Tatsumaki can beat middle of series Mark who no sold the Mauler's super nuke designed to set off a solar storm in the sun
Idk man like Genos isn't as strong as Tatsumaki, he only reaches those levels thanks to his ten seconds mode and if he goes suicidal and Flashy Flash was not powerfull enought to take out Platinum Sperm let alone Monster Garou, he was also shown to be slower compared to them. Also Tatsumaki should be around the same level as the first version of Monster Garou that fought Saitama at best who shown to be Moon level at that version but she not Planetary level Tatsumaki would be the only one superior to Nolan in AP and durability but she's way slower so it would be very difficult for her to hit Nolan and Nolan would take damaged like you said, another story would be Blast who was able to fight Cosmic Garou So only those two should be able to beat Nolan but not Genos, the rest of the S Class has no businnes with someone that not only exceeds their AP, has higher durability and stamina but also its thousands of times faster than the entire S-Class (except Blast probably)
@@Tai182 Only the top tiers of the S class reach small planet level which Nolan comfortably sits at. The only thing incorrect would be thinking any of the S class can hurt him
@@lucasbroome1048 Except he doesn't sit there comfortably. he doesn't sit there at all. It took 3 alongside a destabilization of the core to do that. The combined force of those three should scale to continental. And a single one should barely be continental as is. They would have literally instantly died had it not be destabilized.
@@The_Andromeda_Galaxy "It took 3 alongside a destabilization of the core to do that" That's nice but blowing up the planet isn't what makes him small planet level. It's overcoming Viltrum's GBE. Viltrum is 1.5x bigger than Earth and has a GBE 1.25x higher than Earth's. Together, they launched moon sized debris past the ring that orbited Viltrum, overcoming the GBE (which was calced to be small planet level), & surviving the initial explosion that occurred at the bottom portion of Viltrum (which was also calced to be small planet level). Viltrum is such an abnormal planet that Thragg and Mark had an easier time diving into the core of the sun rather than the core of Viltrum. Yet together they did it There's also Nolan scaling to Mark who rammed an Earth sized moon out of Mars' orbit and have it crashing into the planet which was ALSO a small planet level feat Seems to be pretty comfortably small planet level to me
The problems with vs. battles like this is that the comics aren't necessarily internally consistent with their speed and power thus power scaling, although done really well here, doesn't necessarily hold. For example while Genos may have high levels of energy projection he gets torn apart a lot in his own universe so I think Omniman takes Genos HOWEVER this may give heavy hitters a chance to land telling blows. Atomic Samari [with his magic? blade] and Tatsumaki likely only need one good chance to tip the balance.
@@mrperfectcell5079 Really? I thought the verse caps at like, town level or something. Is there like a universal+ scan I’ve never heard about or something?
Omniman absolutely would beat tatsumaki. Blast is up for grabs as omniman has the speed and strength to not only match him but beat him as well but the same could be said the other way around.
@@wokeuplikedis1500 blast is weird because he could warp omniman all around forcing him to try and speed blitz. Who's to say he couldn't stop a warp half way through and like cut omniman in half with hax instead of power. That's why I'm on the fence about it.
I think Omni puts in the work on everyone up to Tatsumaki/Blast/OPM. Super Alloy Darkshine could probably hold up pretty well, but I don't him having the offensive oomph to take down Nolan.
In invincible there are two characters that show up and are planet wipers and they are defeated by the new guardians and Brit which are all weaker than even the lower class viltrumites which Omni man up scales from because he can fight three viltrumites at the same time and continues to grow throughout the series so I feel like the multi continental is a really low balled Omni man
It’s also stated that the force of the explosion from the planet blowing up wouldn’t kill them it was the heat generated from it as viltrumites are vulnerable to extreme heat
@@cdcd4264exactly there scales were trash. the core was too hot so they had to destabilize it making it cool down. and i think they forget that planet viltrum had 5x earths gravity and was bigger making the core even bigger and hotter. Something like a moon doesn’t have a core so omniman can just straight of destroy it by flying through it. and also add on the fact that when omniman flies they build up gravity at a single point in front of them making their punches thousands of times stronger and also add on the law of torque of more speed = more power. Omniman could just build up enough speed to fly through every s class hero
Ok, omniman can travel hundreds if not thousands of times light speed. If he just went around the planet full speed nobody could stop him except blast. Genos may actually have blasts hot enough to harm Omni man but hes not fast enough to get him and one hit would make him fall apart like legos. Tatsumaki might have a chance but i could honestly see Omni just going so fast he pops straight through her barrier and shoving a hand through her guts.
That's travel speed. If he were capable of that speed in battle he would literally never even be seen by anyone he was fighting. It takes time to build up that amount of speed. In that time he could easily be killed.
@@genericwhitemale9566 while that's partly true you see in their battles in space they're incredibly fast. They specifically mention how most viltrumite's will not go too fast on a planet as to not kill everyone on it. We see a good example of this when Nolan kills everyone on a planet in seconds and then spends months finding ones that are still alive so he could get home. I think he could easily hit multiple times light speed near instantly if he needs to. There are actually examples of this with mark speed blitzing several characters in the comics before he's stronger than his dad.
@@cavedweller4111 no he didn't, he killed every single one of the guardian without even getting seen. Literally flew past them all and it was over. Only struggling with other viltrumite's and Allen.
@@doublehelix2167The only reason why he won against them because they didn't expect that the best hero on the planet going kill them. Proof's is spoiler's In the comics when Mark traveled back in time he said that his dad gonna kill them. Then the heroes squad were ready for fight and simply won
@darnellwoods8986 I want whatever you're smoking. Her physical durability may not be the highest in the verse but her ESP abilities are so insane that omniman can't do anything about it. She could fold him into himself with a thought
@@MiseryDuke69 Her shields are at max moon level. no one in the series is close to planet level besides full monster garou and on or boros. Omniman pops through her shields no problem. The reason he couldn’t fly through a planet that had 5x earths gravity was bc the heat of the core. viltrumites are vulnerable to heat. so something like a moon which has no heat core omniman would destroy quite easily as the moon isn’t denser then earth lt alone viltrum. Add on the fact that lesser characters like tech jacket who is multi continental minimum gets fodderized by viltrumites aslo up scales omniman. then add on the fact someone tech jacket beat killed a planet eating giant who goes around absorbing planets cores like galactus. he was literally called “planet eater” and lower tier viltrumites scale above him as well. so omniman is at a MINIMUM Moon level LOW BALLED. High balled hes large planetary and middle balled hes planetary. So he scales directly to her shields in this isn’t even adding on the fact that his strength gets boosted thousands of times when flying bc of when viltrumites fky they build a significant amount of gravity in front of them and then ALSO ADD on the law of more speed = more power. omniman gets thousands of times stronger from his moon level self. he low diffs and blitzes. don’t bother responding if u can’t refute everyone of my points
@@darnellwoods8986 Viltrum has 1.25 times the density of the Earth and 1.5 times the size. (As someone else in this comment thread pointed out). And again the only reason their plan of destroying Viltrum worked was because the gun of Space Racer (that Is by far More powerful than a viltrumite, Given It could kill them during the assault on the planet). The Gun of Space Racer was the tip of the spear, the plan was that the shot from Space Racer's gun would make the core unsteable enough for Mark, Omniman and Thadeus to Punch through the Planet and destroy the planet. Again Given the fact Viltrum has 25% More density than the Earth doesn't mean It puts him in the small Planet TERRITORY and It Is a fact the gun of Space Racer did most of the trick as It was the tip of the spear of the attack. (And even then Nolan, Thadeus and Mark could've died). So nah. Nolan Is at Best multicontinental or Moon level at Best. Anything More Is just wank. (Tatsumaki should still be able to deal with His power).
The problems I have is that Tatsumaki and especially Genos can't really do much against Omni Man's raw speed, its not like Genos can tag him before his ten seconds are up. And also Omni Man is not so weak in comparison when it comes to power especially to the point where he would blow himself up if he hits any of the higher tier S-class heroes like those other 'FODDER' viltrumites. I think the S-class would lose due to Omni Man's speed.
On the one hand, that is certainly possible, on the other, unless he kills Tatsumaki first, he loses cuz she could just immobilize him. I doubt he has the strength to overpower her telekenesis. And before you insist she couldn’t grab him, her first demonstrated strength feat was grabbing an Asteroid from who the fuck knows where, and dragging it to earth in seconds. Clearly she doesn’t need to see something to grab it.
You realize that Spawn can be a street tier to outerverseal right? 🤣 Spawn shouldn't be measure used to scale them, I'm not saying you can't but how strong was the Spawn he defeated exactly?
@@nicholasaugello2534 well you have omnipotus with a ability to absorb a infinite amount of energy, and has a op reality warping power, and he absorbed all of the energy in his universe so, I would say it was a powerful Spawn of a evil invincible is bragging about killing his version of spawn.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 Invincible bragging doesn't mean that Spawn he fought is all that powerful, he's just strong in the invincible verse. Spawn can range from like street level to Outerversal. You actually believe that Mark, who needed 2 other powerful viltrumites to destroy a planet, was capable of beating the high tier versions of spawn?
3:35 did you say someone takes damage if they attack someone stronger than themselves? If so, why does it show one character getting punched and the punched character is taking damage? Because the way you said it makes it sound like " x attacks y. X explodes. Y is winner."
@@liquidred257 yes this kinda shit happens a lot in comic series I think right after this mark starts pleading with the other viltrumites to stop killing themsleves
As much as I love OPM, I do think this video was a bit unfair. The calculations for omni-man were more accurate than most other videos, but those for OPM were definitely highball. Especially with giving guys like silver fang "stronger than orichi/moon level AP" when he didn't even kill Rover. Even Boros has some "multi continental" scaling, so giving S class heroes small planetary AP is a bit of a stretch
You're BLATANTLY fucking wrong about Boros. At worst he is planetary level, at best he is straight up fucking star level. Do some research. And while saying that upper S Class is moon to small planetary level is a stretch, it still doesn't change the outcome. The upper S Class still scale much higher in strength then Nolan does.
@maxdrags3115 I do believe boros is a large planetary level, at least since the guide where it was stated to be star level can be translated both ways (planet/star/large cosmic object). But some people use the "blasting the surface of the planet to hell" statement to prove he is multi-continental (which I don't agree on). In my personal opinion, Nolan could 1v1 every S class hero except blast and would probably be 50/50 with Tatsumaki. But yeah, if they fought him all together, they'd win with only a few deaths
If Red Rush can damage him (a guy with no super strength, and who should be way slower than Omniman) Then i don't see why the S Class can't lol. Like compare the Guardians of the Globe to the S Class and the Guardians are fodder my dude lol.
Even Tank Top Master, the weakest S Class and a Demon level threat in terms of power. Can throw a large building thousands of feet into the air. And he got fodderized by a Dragon level threat (most of the upper S Class are indivually Dragon or Above in terms or power). And again compare that to the Guardians of the globe who almost killed Omniman. Is just not even close. Atomic Sandbag (Atomic Samurai) would likely kill Omniman with the sunblade. Like if Red Rush can do that damage to the chest of Omniman why wouldn't Flashy Flash? (Who Is by far physically stronger than red Rush, and i would say even Faster).
Wow, OPM wank like no tomorrow and not even for the common ones. Disgusting, but innovative. Let's get this bullshit out of the way the only time Genos scales to the meteor is with 10 second mode as he directly states he should be able to destroy it with his full power. Metal Knight's full arsenal includes OPM's nuclear bombs-which scale above Tatsumaki when killing Orochi (a feat that heavily exhausted her and caused blood to spurt out of her) and are referred to again when COSMIC GAROU first debuts. So Genos doesn't scale to this without his 10 second full power. Most of the S Class have feats in the town-mountain ranges much more consistently. Genos doesn't have durability on par with AP in 10 second mode, he literally MELTS and is on the verge of EXPLODING after using the spiral incineration canon. It can match the ocean cutting beam though so he is multi continental. Orochi's Gaia canon is not moon level or small planet-it does fuck all damage to the planet despite having planetary range and being right at the core itself. Often times timeframes are assumed which shouldn't be done for a manga panel, especially with the earthquakes lasting multiple pages and Saitama not doing anything about it. The feat is multi continental. It's also inferior to Psykos' ocean cutting beam, calced to multi continental consistently since that attack is stated to be God given and Orochi's flame attacks can't even pierce the aura Tats gives a rock double of herself. Tats tanking the beam is not valid, not only is her defense broken through by significantly weaker attacks like Psykos' spears but she outright says that beam is more powerful than her and needed to actively NERF Fused Psykos to defeat her. Still overpowering the ones that match Genos though is a multi cont feat based on the explosion both make. Their best bet is to try frying Omni Man's smart atoms with heat attacks (incineration canon is the best bet) or Tats to use durability bypassing moves, or Metal Knight to pull a Mechagodzilla. and fire all weapons. Invincible characters can fight much longer and in much worse conditions than OPM ones can. As for Omni Man's speed, this is done by acceleration and is never done on a planet-though on planets the Invincible series boasts relativistic to light speed feats. And if he's using his speed from space why not just take them to space so they die in the vacuum? TLDR: OPM is wanked here and the battle should be much closer though the S Class high tiers still win more times than not.
Just because he says he can destroy the meteor with his ten second mode doesnt mean he is only NOW capable of doing it as the databook still implies if he and the metal knight drone that was there (who is relative to genos) teamed up they would have destroyed it why does metal knight have nuclear bombs and why do they scale above tatsumaki? also no tatsumaki didnt injure herself God did it as we see the page prior has a panel zooming in on the moon, which is HEAVILY linked to GOD on the monster association arc. genos does have the durability even without his sprial incineration canon he was still able to deflect psyorochi's attacks and hold them off briefly and newtons 3rd law would make it so his durability should scale it doesnt do any damage to the planet because saitama literally stopped it and also AP doesnt always have to equate to DC and yes while the timeframe is assumed it was still only a few pages so it clearly didnt take all that long and its clearly moving up very fast so a 30 second timeframe which is what most of the calcs used i think is perfectly fine also earthquakes last 10-30 seconds so again i think the timeframe the calcs use is fair. also psykorochis beams could very well be much higher than multi continental its just that since it only affected a small part of the planet due to where it was aimed thats all we have to go off, but due to her being able to one shot that orochi she should be moon-small planetary as well tatsumaki never states the beam is more powerful than her that was psykos who said that and even then she is blantantly wrong is tatsumaki flat out overpowered her and was suppressed the entire time until like the very end and she clearly did get hit by the attack as her clothes got damaged. also when tf did tatsumakis barriers get pierced by spears?
@@mrperfectcell5079 Yes actually, it does. It is a SPECIFIC metric of the power of his 10 second full power. Genos is even SURPRISED a being could match the power to destroy the meteor despite getting his ass handed to him multiple times by demon and dragon level threats. Scaling everyone to it is dishonest as fuck. Metal Knight has an arsenal that is known to put him on par with Tatsumaki, Blast, and "King" there's zero evidence the drone and Genos could do anything especially when neither of their attacks work. Canon>supplementary anyway. He outright says he does before the HA decides to do a manned mission to save the hostages, he wanted to just nuke the base. Tats destroying Orochi with the base is DIRECTLY stated to be like a nuke. No, she did injure herself. She's shown panting, blood gushing out of her and states HERSELF she used too much power. God did nothing to her, even approaching her to give her power. Why would you break something you want to use? That's stupid. Wrong, 10 second mode is all about AP. It directly comes to a detriment of his durability as specifically stated by Kuseno. He literally melts from the mere recoil of his own attacks. Nice misread, it doesn't do anything to the planet WHILE in action. Orochi yanked energy out FROM THE CORE, and "small planet" level AP does nothing to the core, mantle and crust? Yeah, bull. And no, One Punch Man is a series all about DC. The characters wear their strength on their sleeves with the ONLY exception being just holding back. This is completely consistent and there's no justification of AP in the series. What you see is what you get. "Clearly" why? We know the MA raid takes place over at least a whole night so there's literal HOURS of time to spare. Reminder these FTL characters are dicking around in an area the size of a small town with 1.5 kilometers being notable for the base's size. Not earthquakes of global scale like Orochi's (the planet has a rumbling effect on it), those last 5 minutes. That drops the KE down to multi continental. Unlikely as she aimed into the ocean and then spun the beam around, adding damage to the attack's direct AP. Not to mention we don't get moon/small planet feats until monster Garou literally dents Earth and that Garou shit on any Cadre or S Class (save Blast). Her being able to one shot Orochi is very questionable, monsters in the series tend to lack credibility and just spout out bloodthirsty nonsense not to mention Psykos herself is very unreliable. She didn't even know how strong Orochi was and she MADE him. She deadass said "no way she could get that much power" while sweating after the big laser fires. Again, Tatsumaki WEAKENED Psykos first by going up her roots and twisting her from the inside (also directly stated that the fusion's barrier was too tough to pierce). Orochi and the fusion by default grow larger and stronger by absorbing biomass and blood. Tatsumaki squeezed blood out, shrinking the monster and making them weaker. This is also when Genos scales to Fused Pykos, not to full power. I didn't say she didn't get HIT, I said she doesn't SCALE fully. Literally right when Genos shows up. Psykos stabs her, shocks her and pins her down for a beam and then Genos pulls up. Unless you think Tats had a barrier up (that MUST have been broken since she didn't have it up in the next shot) this should scale the same. Her being suppressed is also not stated, she went all out it's just that she was spreading her power out over the area and at the end concentrated all of it on Psykos-she also damages herself doing this.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 even if you wanna take that bogus statement what genos says us that he can ONE SHOT the meteor at fp that doesnt mean he didnt scale to or above it before and thats IF we take the interpretation he is only now capable of doing it which i think is wrong because again the databook says that him and the emtal knight drone that was there could have destroyed the meteor if they worked together. and the databook was written BY BOTH ONE AND MURATA, so no you cant say the manga has priority here metal knights arsenal is entirely unknown for the most part and its entirely headcanon to say it puts him on fucking TATSUMAKI AND BLAST LEVEL the best you can say it scales to is elder centipede he melts a bit from his spiral incineration canon but his prioir attacks that he used didnt melt him at all he was just fine and these attacks were still deflecting and holding back psykorochi's beams for a decent while it actually does displace the earths mantle and stuff a bit if you LOOK at the page, and i can just say orochi can control the AOE of the attack and yes AOE DOES EXIST IN OPM, maybe not as much in a series like dbz but it does exist whether you like it or not. yes while there is a buncha time to spare it clearly isnt fucking 5 minutes dude it basicaly crosses the distance in 2 panels and the rest of the pages are just the characters reacting to what is ahppening during those two panels theres no way it was several minutes when that long of a timespan isn't even remotely implied also quake.utah.edu/earthquake-information-products/earthquake-faq#:~:text=Generally%2C%20only%20seconds.,intermittently%20for%20weeks%20or%20months.&text=Is%20there%20an%20%27earthquake%20season%27%20or%20%27earthquake%20weather%27%3F,-No. this says strong earthquakes last 10-30 seconds ok yes while the beam was being swept around the way it was aimed still made it so it only hit part of the earth's crust and yes while psykos may not know orochi's fp psychorochi literally HAS OROCHI's MEMORIES THATS HOW SHE WAS SOMEHOW ABLE TO KNOW SAITAMA DEFEATED OROCHI also thats not true boros is planetary and im trying to argue this is too so dont just go ahead and try and slip in garou being only one with moon level calcs and i don't see why that matters regardless What tatsumaki ACTUALLY said was that theres no way psykos should have gotten as big as a powerup as she did just by absorbing a few other monsters which does not at all mean psykorochi>tatsumaki you again lied it was never said she couldnt pierce her barrier all that was said was that the barrier was powerful which does not mean she couldnt pierce it she probably only used its weakspot because it was consume less energy to bypass and it would be much easier also again suppressed tatsumaki and while yes tatsumakis attack did damage psykorochi she quickly recovered from her attack and was able to damage her suppressed state so i would say her power didn't drop too much if at all i mean if tasumaki basically tanks the energy blast with basically no damage then she should scale fully she also just casually negated and deflected one of them later sooooooo... also no way i am responding to whatever bible you type next i have better things to do
@@mrperfectcell5079 That's LITERALLY what it means stupid. I can cause it's still secondary. Both that Genos and the drone scale to nothing impressive of that scale. Genos is INCAPABLE of doing anything to the meteor and so's Bang. That's shown and stated in the SERIES, taking all priority over supplementary stuff. It's headcanon to lie like an idiot and say the S Class scale to the meteor. Decent while, 10 seconds, then starts melting, okay. It DOESN'T you can see on the PAGES that it literally just plucks out and then the layers are UNDAMAGED. And NO, you can't, cause that's headcanon. AoE doesn't exist in OPM. That's just bullshit. It clearly isn't implied to be seconds when there's so many reaction shots and literally NOTHING is being done to stop it. www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/faq/how-long-do-earthquakes-last.html The largest earthquakes, say a GLOBAL one, last multiple minutes. L. Mag 5 and 6 last 30 seconds, but those wouldn't rumble the entire planet. Sure she doesn't fire it into the ground like when Frieza nuked Namek but you cannot prove it'd do more damage than it actually SHOWED. Okay and Orochi thought he'd neg Saitama too, why is a MONSTER STATEMENT reliable? Garou's only moon level pre Cosmic, and VASTLY superior to any of the Cadre or S Class-no one in the series besides God, Blast, Boros and Saitama would be superior to that feat when Sage Centipede literally rose from the ground and despite being thousands of miles long and stronger than Orochi he does NO such damage. Boros' planetary statements come from an attack that require a Serious Punch to deflect, what does HE have to do with anything? Nice wrong reading there buddy. She literally says no way she'd get that strong. She literally in character breaks other psychic's barriers why wouldn't shje just do the same and get it over with? She's not only the type to do that but she literally tried to end the fight quick MULTIPLE TIMES. If she could take the short route, she would. Not suppressed, actively going all out-lying doesn't help you. She shrinks, loses blood which Orochi amps with, and never recovers fully hence the damaged look afterwards. Or Tats doesn't scale to the full power laser, crazy. Literally not what happened but keep lying. WHEN NERFED. Like make bullshit up? Yeah okay.
i dont think nolan has the reaction speed stated in the video. travel speed sure, but thats in space with no friction and infinite space to accelerate. in the fight between guardians of the globe, with having MFTL reaction speeds absolutely none of the heros should be able to touch him, and while being multi-continental none of their attacks should do anything at all to him, yet he collapses after the fight while i dont think none of the heros are even close to multi-continental
I mean Omni Man can fly. I always wonder why charackters with flight don't just "store" non-flight characters in the vacuum of space and double check a week later. Or in the case of Omni Man: Just arrange a beautiful bombardment with hundreds of meteors. Don't get me wrong: Tatsumaki Psi Powers > strong flight man, I agree
@@mrperfectcell5079 how much do you scale saitama? I just saw a lot of debates about Omni man and Saitama where many people say that Omni man is much faster than Saitama which is why Saitama will have difficulties And thanks for the quick response
I enjoy the fluff, but if anyone without 'speedforce' or something similar does FTL in atmosphere we would know it in all the wrong ways, either the weapons aren't as fast as they look or the characters are using toon-force and can't be scaled, ruins most what-if match-ups
I just know what I saw, those weak heroes at the beginning of the serie managed to make Omniman a lot of damage. He just have no chance against class S heroes.
After seeing Blast go toe to toe with Cosmic Garou for a bit I believe he would be able to kill Omni-Man with out too much difficulty.
Omni-Man solos until he gets to Blast and he's gonna be like "oh damn" as he gets sent to another dimension
@@astreusastresus198 One issue with him beating up S class means he will probably run into Saitama before Blast gets involved. Although it would probably be sort of funny to see Omni-Man get the Mosquito Girl treatment.
@@ColonelBragg He would also get doodooed on my King actually
@@astreusastresus198 good point. Multiple times in the Invincible multiverse, we're shown that viltrumites, even the strongest ones, can't do much against dimensional transfers.
Omniman had to threaten some aliens to send him back to Earth.
And after killing Angstrom, Mark was left stranded in a different dimension and had no way to get back until he was found by .
Even without dimension transfer, Blast reacted to a bloodlusted Saitama and Garou, who were about to casually either destroy a sector of space the size of a galactic filament (multigalactic, minimum), or at least send out a kugelblitz blacking out that section of space.
@@astreusastresus198Tatsumaki rips him apart
Notice how he didn't mention king? Omni man vs king??? No diff, Omni man dies from kings aura
@@atatsuke101 Thank you. Finally someone who knows what they are talking about😂. King solos fiction
Oh for fu….sigh
@@manohman8587garou would die from the King engine, but because King didnt want to kill Silverfangs former student, he didnt instakill garou
@@atatsuke101 love to see it brother, keep spreading the truth and the word of King-sama💪🏾💪🏾
@@durieljohnson1123is king really strong?
People don’t know this because it’s a deleted chapter but the king engine is the top weakness for viltrumites and anyone will instantly explode if they hear it
I saw this too, can confirm the crossover
Same here. Can confirm 100% facts spoken here
I laugh so hard when that happened, however is does make a lot of sense
The flight speed is only shown in space as mark struggled to fly away from the first other viltrum he met and was clearly not ftl
Exactly because there is no atmosphere in space, it's actually pretty realistic imo
In the anime (maybe it's not canon) nolan shows his speed when he destroys a planet when passing through a portal, planet which contains atmosphere. Like he literally destroy the planet surface in matter of seconds
@@Wilky971 even light speed can easily do that by hitting the atoms before they can move out of the way, causing them to combust which would create nuclear fission wherever you're going, aka anything moving 99% the speed of light will just be a world ending bomb
This is because there isnt anything slowing them down and so they are able to just constantly accelerate. Which is why they cant go ftl anywhere else or in any other context.
@@toweroffrogs9470 i already knew that but if they were to fight it would not be in space so the s class destroy and there speed advantage is non existent.
Flashy flash alone would be impossible to deal with for, especially if he gets his weapon this time, we can see him going on the offensive. Multi-continental esp from tatsumaki to hold him down, AB Bang, Bofoi with an unimaginable amount of robots and weapons, Darkshine to tank is all that's needed. Current Genos and the other heroes too would be overkill
Omni Man is capable of exploding Mercury though, and he's faster than any of the S class. What can they realistically do that can hurt him or catch him off guard?
@@lucasbroome1048 realistically Flashy Flash is faster than Nolan though, I think 2 or 3 S Class Heroes is all Nolan can handle
@@d.a.u.d None of the S class can handle Nolan. Even if they all worked together and fought as one.
Flashy Flash isn't faster than Nolan. If there was a character the speed of light that raced Nolan, in comparison of the speed difference between them, the speed of light character would have finished the race in 4 years in the time it would have taken Nolan a week. This scales to his reaction and combat speed too
As for his DC/AP, Nolan tanked the bottom portion of Viltrum exploding on top of him. He doesn't scale to the planetary destruction, but he does scale to the initial explosion, he also scales to helping overcome the Gravitational Binding Energy (Viltrum's binding energy is 1.25x that of Earth, making it many times denser as a planet while also being 1.5x bigger), he scales to launching moon sized debris at Mach 40, he scales to kicking off destruction that went so high that it went further than the ring orbiting Viltrum. This is comparable to flying through Mercury, and tanking the explosion of the whole planet
He also scales Mark hitting an Earth sized moon out of Mars' orbit so hard that the moon was moving faster than spaceships that took place in the same comic, and causing it crash into the planet
There's also Thragg's statement of 37 Viltrumites tearing Earth in half. It's hypothetical but if that actually happened as it was said, the Viltrumites who scale to Nolan would be creating a consistent feat of Nolan helping destroy Viltrum and Mark crashing into the moon
The S class don't stand a chance in any way. Even Boros and Monster Garou are arguable to lose a fight.
Only Blast stands a chance
@@lucasbroome1048 flight speed in space has no correlation to fighting speed, in space omniman is just flying in a straight line, obviously that’s going to be faster than he can change directions and even reaction speed
@@lilricebowl9731 "flight speed in space has no correlation to fighting speed"
For the Viltrumites it does since they experience time dilations. Their reaction and combat speed scales to their flight speed
"in space omniman is just flying in a straight line"
That's only when he's traveling. When he's fighting it's another story. He even says to Mark that he has to chain combo attacks to keep up with their speed otherwise he'll lose
Honestly? No, as mentioned before he gets rekt by the rip off justice league when invincible warns them in an alternative timeline. Tatsumaki herself is too much for him.
The Guardians would only scale up. I could show you a quote for how powerscaling works if you don't know why the Guardians scale up to Nolan rather than Nolan scale down
@@lucasbroome4148The most powerful of the guardians gets shit stomped by the top 3 of the hero association. In fact durability wise, darkshine would absolutely walk over the guardians of the globe. So not sure why your comment even exists
@@jonasfadi8213 "The most powerful of the guardians gets shit stomped by the top 3 of the hero association"
That's not saying a lot.
"In fact durability wise, darkshine would absolutely walk over the guardians of the globe"
Not Immortal. Darkshine would get a whole punched in him just the same as Immortal if he fought Nolan. You can't make an argument that Darkshine is out of Immortal's durability class
"So not sure why your comment even exists"
Because you have to know what _powerscaling_ means if you want to powerscale genius. The lack of feats a character has doesn't mean they are weak, especially if they can harm characters that prove to be quite powerful
Why even reply to me?
@@lucasbroome4148 oh no. I'd say get help, but it's clear as day even that wouldn't be any help for you. In the end, I can only pity ones like you
@@lucasbroome4148 darkshine has never once been damaged by blunt or physical attacks of all variations. from tanking carnage kabuto in a full brawl, to spiral Garou or evil natural water that could slice the entire guardians of the globe in half with its pressurized water jets. Immortal ain't gonna do shit, he'd be just trying too hard until darkshine slaps him across the city .
Also the lack of feats suggest that a character has nothing to bring to the table genius , thus, you are the idiot who tries to powerscale while using pure headcanon. Nothing from what the guardians of the globe have showcased (animation and comics wise) suggest they could handle the top s Class heroes. They'd get folded in two literally.
Also I replied because I felt like it, got a problem mate 0?
S class destroys him, and if this includes a later in the series genos and blast then those two or even blast by himself stomp him.
No chance lmao. Omni man beats everyone except blast and saitama
@@StrykeSZN wdym watch the video
@@StrykeSZN Omni Man almost died to building level characters in the first episode
@@StrykeSZNbuddy red rush is a watered down version of flashy flash and he still damaged Omni man. S class negs lmao cope harder
It is so easy for the S class to deal with Nolan lmao
Just compare the Guardians of the globe to the S class, even Red Rush was able to damage Omniman. (Even if that only happened in the Cartoon Is still terrible for the fact the author of Invincible works in the Cartoon, that means he Is cool with fodder heroes like the Guardians of the globe to be able to give a battle against Omniman).
And the Guardians actually defeated him in the comic when Mark traveled back in Time and warned them about Omniman.
Like i told ya just compare the S Class to the Guardians.
Flashy Flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Rush
Zombie Man >>>>>>> Dark Wing
Tatsumaki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> War Woman
Darkshine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Black Samson
Blast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Immortal
Say Put Drive Knight against the Green ghost girl and he can kill her with ease.
Put Genos against the Martian Dude and he kills him with ease
Put Pig Gog against the fish thing and he eats him lmao.
The S Class wins Easy.
Pd: don't read the replies of this comment... like i bet you have something better to do. It honestly got tiresome. If anyone wants to reply and debunk this (i don't plan to reply anymore).
that’s not how it works. Omni man in the original comic killed them immediately. He took no damage at all. When mark goes back in time there’s nothing saying that that is actually accurate and overtakes what actually happens in the beginning of the story. so everything u stated is for naught.
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Nah in the Cartoon they did damage him (and the creator of the comics Works in the Amazon Cartoon, if he Is ok with fodder heroes like the Guardians hurting Omniman that's on him, and that downplays the power of Omniman a lot).
Even if you wanna say we go by comic accuracy. Either way the upper S Class heroes like Flashy and Tatsumaki can individually give him hell and Win.
Flashy Flash fought 2 Monsters that are multicontinental in terms of power (and even if he didn't win, he was More than capable of withstanding the hits and Platinum One of the 2 Monsters he fought said he was weaker without His sword). He Is several times Faster than light for the fact he was moving in fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second. Nolan can't use his Full speed in atmosphere Given the friction in the air would cause a nuclear fusion (like It happened with the flaxans). And even then i doubt he can move in fractions of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second like Flashy does (i doubt His combat speed Is on par with His).
Either way Nolan Is in the same tier of power and strength that monster Garou and Platinum. He would never fold Flashy with a few punches for the fact Flashy has durability and strength that allow him to withstand a lot.
Tatsumaki can withstand any attack of Omniman her psychic barrier around her body was able to withstand a strike from a being that could slice off a continent. And she would certainly crush him).
Finally Blast would straight up kill Omniman (the guy scales to a Serious Saitama going at Full power and to Cosmic Garou a being that can manipulate reality, both of which are way above Planet buster).
@@CameraPunk5049 again cartoon isn’t comics so stop. flashy flash is no where near garou or Platnijm s so again stop with ur dumbass scaling. flashy flash is the fastest s class hero and he’s still not even close to as fast as omniman. And yes nolan can. the only reason he doesn’t is bc he cares about the civilians. in this scenario it’s bloodlusted. he’d have no regard for human life. he’d move at his full compacity, blitzing and punching a hole through every hero their before then cane even think while at the same time destroying earth bc of his speed getting rid of everyone on earth and suffocating everyone. bc of lack of oxygen. he negs
@@darnellwoods8986
He Is the closest anyone of the other S Class heroes can get so nah. Platinum and Garou are just 2 units in the clock Faster than what he Is.
Flashy Flash can move in
00:00'00''00 (as we have the reference for His speed in the webcomic and this exact messurement).
While Platinum and Garou could move
In in the manga
00:00'00''00'''00 (just 2 units above Flashy).
And no Bro again the fodder heroes of Invincible and people with no super speed can react to Omniman as opposed to regular civilians not following the action of the One Punch Man battles.
G T F O get a More consistent scaling when doing Omniman.
@@CameraPunk5049 all those 0s aren’t eve close to even 500x the speed of light. omniman is a million x the speed of light minimum. so afaun stop trolling and learn ur scaling. no fodder hero is reacting to an all out omniman bud. u can’t show me one comic of omniman goinb all out and getting dodged. omniman blitzed and killed all of earrhs heros in a second. so again u got debunked and ur being disingenuous. ur a trash biased scaler
Only Watchdog Man is enough to beat Omni-Man, he can't touch him at all
blast destroys every viltrumite neg diff.
I'm surprised that they brought up the lower s class as fodder for omniman yet never mentioned zombie man to be the perfect fodder for his regeneration
This fight is actually covered pretty well by Omni Man's fights with The Immortal. He does eventually regenerate, but all he accomplishes while restored is getting clobbered all over again. Meanwhile, whatever damage he does to Omni Man is recovered after a good night's sleep on the other hand.
@chazzeo Yeah, I know but what I'm saying is maybe zombie won't do anything to omniman but his regeneration factor is much better than immortal, meaning zombie man could be the guy to save the lower s-class if they were in any danger
@@chazzeothe battle will be unending. Zombiemans regen is ridiculous, nothing kills him permanenty. Omni man can kill has several billion times and nothing will happen. Omni man own regen is enough to keep up for all that time, until Nolan eventually dies. Zombie man should be immortal, as his regen will cause him to literally never die. If it was just him he’d win in a few thousand or so years. Blast is solar system level, he no diffs. Tatsu is multi continental + and isn’t even max power, she is heavily injured with a massive head injury greatly hindering her. So at ful power healthy, she should be around small planetary/ moon level. She instantly smushes omni man. Kings king engine is the exact frequency to no diff omniman. Honestly can think of anyone else. Saitama, CF Garou, Gargoyle Garou, no one else really.
@@smthsmthsmthsmth blast is more around galaxy level. Y’all be low balling these guys too much. It’s funny too see people trying to explain a hole punched in space as just them moving the light lol.
@@donaldtrumplover2254 I thought he was multi solar because he needed help with the attack. Though if the blast is multi galaxy not galaxy then yeah he’s prolly galaxy. All about how the hole in space feat is calced
I'm pretty sure that even in the comics it took a long time to destroy a planet which needed the help of the 3 strongest viltrumites or something, and they haven't shown much speed of being at the Light Speed or the FTL range, correct me if I'm wrong though.
Their speed while flying through space was much faster than light, but personally, I think this has no basis in their combat speed and movement speed while in combat
@@lilricebowl9731it literally does tho it's stated that their acceleration speed can be correlated to their reaction speed. It's around the same
It took Mark, noland, thaedus, and a shot from space racer. But something ppl seem to forget is that at that point in time they are considerably weaker than later in the comics at that point the three of them (the viltrumites) weren't even comparable in strength to thragg he completely outsped them and over powered them but later on they grow much stronger to the point where mark and Omni man are comparable to thragg so if it was that point in time the two of them alone could probably destroy a planet. Of course this all speculation but it's a reasonable opinion to have.
@@Chill_Februaryalso, they had just had a huge fight against the other viltrumites before flying through the planet, so they probably weren’t at full strength
it took them time and the planet core had to be weakened for them to do it
Tbh Blast would be enough to win against Omni Man. Blast is much faster and he can use his spacetime abilities added with his Gravity knuckle punch to deal damage.
He also went toe to toe with Cosmic Garou for a bit before Saitama took over.
Omni man will already have a hard time fighting tatsumaki.
now seeing Empty Void vs Blast and its even more believable
Tatsumaki alone would pretzel Omni man from the inside-out.
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Nope. It's arguable that even Mark in his blue suit can kill Tatsumaki with ease
@@lucasbroome1048 Tatsumaki can be scaled multi continental to moon level
@@cheesefinder111 Mark in his blue suit can be argued to that too. In fact, there can be an argument that Mark tackling Allen into the moon in the beginning of the series took the same amount of force as Saitama's moon jump. The show because of how fast it was, the comic because of how high the dust was knocked
@@lucasbroome1048 I agree, but Tatsumaki could just crush all the bones in his ears and render him useless.
The sheer comedy of Omniman getting fodderised by Metal bat is amazing and I'm laughing so much
LMAO I literally was thinking about how you two have such similar voices and wondered if yall were the same person. This is an awesome collab 🙌🏼
The Omni Man Fans can cry all they want. But OPM is too much for the Invincible Verse.
Though id like to Clarify how Nolan would approach OPM, and if it's Nolan taking all the S Class at once or one by one. That could either give him the edge he needs to take out half until Saitama or Blast intervenes to OBLITERATE him. Cuz if Nolan foolishly goes against ALL S Class together he'll be destroyed completely, Heck, the Guardian's of the Globe in the Comics were able to defeat and capture Omni Man once Mark warned them ahead of time, and the GOG are Inferior to the S Class Heroes. Tatsumaki alone can beat them all without even moving (She's a powerful Telekinetic after all.) And Zombie Man is a better Immortal when it comes to regeneration and Immortality. Ommi Man found Cecil hard to find and beat due to his Teleportation and being in Hiding, Omni Man will be dealing with Bofoi or Metal Knight, Dr Kuseno, and Child Emperor AND Drive Knight ETC ETC ETC. OPM IS TOO MUCH FOR INVINCIBLE.
The only Chance Omni Man has, is to be blessed and take the God Hand, but by then Omni Man would no longer be affiliated with the Viltrum Empire which is literally the sole reason why he's even in the OPM verse anyway 😂 he'll be a puppet of God. But most likely he'll be Obliterated by either Blast or One Punch Man, be killed by these two, or God stops seeing Nolan as useful and takes back the Divine Powers he gave Nolan killing him (Like what God did to Homeless Emperor.)
Im not saying its impossible for Nolan to defeat and kill the S Class, it's just gonna be Half or Minimal Damage like 20-40% of the Members of S Class put out of commission temporarily or permanently. And that's if Nolan doesn't accidentally encounter Saitama and gets One Shotted or is Targeted by Blast, because so long as it threatens The Earth, Blast will instantly act. A whole ass Empire of Viltrumites would warrant an instant response from Blast and the Powerful Heroes he's gathered under him which would render all attempt's of espionage and trojan horse tactics useless, meaning The Viltrum Empire will have to directly get into a War with OPM Earth, which would be IMPOSSIBLE for The Viltrum Empire to defeat, cuz now its no longer S Class, IT'S ALL OF OPM, From the Monster Association to the Secret Society of Psychics to the Neo Heroes and Hero Association ETC ETC ETC, ALSO, its important to keep in mind that unlike Invincibles Universe, Normal Humans aren't made of Sand or Cakes that are easily killable, its HARD to be Weak in OPM, a weakling like Mumen Rider was able to tank hits from multiple powerful enemies like the Paradisers, Sea King etc. And the War between OPM Earth and Viltrum Empire will most likely cause more people to "Break their Limiters" and or turn into powerful Monster's or Heroes through Obsession. Another big headache for the Viltrumites to contend with as the Humans they kill or capture have a chance of becoming Monster's like those Dinosaur Aliens even Nolan had a problem beating. And God will take complete advantage of this Crises by giving "God Hands" to all his Creation's against the Viltrum Empire to find a Worthy Host.
Also the Viltrumites are an endangered species. They dont actually have the Numbers to use against OPM's Earth, Saitama will most likely kill all the Powerful Viltrumites lile Conquest sent by Thragg which will only make things even harder for the Viltrum Empire to remain an Empire.
In conclusion, Tatsumaki and Blast solo Omni man + verse
Blast would solo the verse. Tatsumaki dies
@@lucasbroome1048 She would not
Unless you can prove Tatsumaki is consistently small planet level, she in fact does die.
@@lucasbroome4148 she fought with almost planet level while seriously injured and tired, so yes small planet level, maybe the smolest but still
@@lucasbroome4148lmfao she fought orochikos who casually sliced an entire continent while weakened and still managed to completely eviscerate her.
Also it took the combined might of three top tier viltrumites to fully destroy a planet (invincible, thadeus and Omni man).
A fully healthy tatsumaki is easily gonna hold her own.
There is also that guy, another S class called Blast. And that other S class, but S here stand for Saitama-class
Omni Man meets King and shit himself in fear while King shits himself in fear. Then Saitama punches Nolan in the balls.
If fubuki is in danger or hurt by omniman, tatsumaki could possibly go haywire and crush omni man like mashed potatoes, just picture the ruler ost playing.
She would do that exact thing from the start, she has no quarrels about killing off bat.
@@maxdrags3115 Neither does Nolan tho, especially if it involves Mark being in danger
@@ivancabrera3289 No she wasn't. She didn't do anything to Saitama. Saitama ran, tried saving people, talked to King, tried to calm Tatsumaki down, tried taking the fight away, and Tatsumaki knocked herself TF out
@@ivancabrera3289she ent even do nothing 💀
@@ivancabrera3289 Nobody except possibly God is capable of giving Saitama a good fight. That's the entire point of the series. Though I'll admit Tats did slightly better than I thought she would, not that it makes a bit of difference in the end.
But Omni-Man fought Supreme who is Universal 🤓
Shut the fuq up you spoilering fuq up! Drop that shit down to read more. Most of us did not read the fuqin comics like come on dude. Have respect for your fellow fans
PIS, Supreme would no dif omni man. Considering how his creator said Invincible would destroy superman to create pure controversy, there's no doubt in my mind omni-man's creator INSISTED that he won that crossover.
Cut out the Tom foolery
Mark also beat spawn none of it is cannon
@@Kenken_the_goat actually yeah its cannon. We know this because of angstrom levy introducing all the other marks from alternate universes
W video Keep grinding
This was an interesting video to watch
there's a fan animation of this which is really good. i am curious how omni man would rank against the top 6 of the heroes though.
ALSO, what about King ?
Knowing king when omni man goes to hit him saitsma trips in front of him and omni man just explodes
King summons SAITAMA...omniman gets rapedstomped 🙂
A video almost as perfect as perfect cell
The winner will always be who the writers want to win.
And that's not even taking Blast into account
The S class die. But Blast soloes
@@lucasbroome4148 Flashy flash solos onmi man 🤣🤣
@@yoda998 Flashy Flash doesn't even beat Red Rush
@@yoda998 omniman is large planetary and MFTL+ in every aspect of speed.
@@goofyahgojiller Then how was Red Rush able to damage him? He doesn't even scale as a Demon in opm verse.
Transformer video next
You have the perfect name, now you need the perfect voice and this channel will explode
Tatsumaki would OWN his ass all on her own.
For me to say Omniman could go that many times faster than light is wank. Omniman in the series is never depicted to be as fast, and i doubt Robert Kirkman ever considered the implications of his speed when he wrote the story. Those are just fan calculations.
You're judging the comic based off of the show. I can't judge how powerful manga Saitama is when I only watched the anime. Would that be fair?
@@lucasbroome1048
Saitama would still be stronger than comic Omniman for Season 1 of One Punch Man alone.
@@mikeym.4724 Not from the anime. He's not as powerful as his manga equivalent. In fact, comic Nolan is more powerful than even Boros in almost every way except destructive capacity and healing (even then, Boros can't win with those factors)
@@lucasbroome1048
He killed Boros who could destroy the Earth, so yeah he'd be stronger than Omniman.
@@mikeym.4724 Destroying the earth doesn't mean you're planet level
Do you know how many planets Nolan would have destroyed over his life?
So blast would easily kill omni man, I mean blast could react to garou and saitama who are mftl+ and blast could fighr garou and although was weaker he could still fight him without getting hit and even caught garou off guard, if blast and omni man fought the fight would go in blasts favor.
It's basically just blast smearing Omni man into a wall then since Omni man isn't beating blast like at all
A video like this would be interesting, with Vegeta and Nappa Saiyan Saga.
Thought this would be commentary on the Omni man vs S Class animation. Good comparison video though.
that is an actually very good animation and the powerscaling is accurate
@@r.jguerra5526 i agree its a good animation, but omniman would've thrashed the S class besides blast and king but they werent in the vid from what i remember.
@@goofyahgojiller King was in the vid but he was one of the sole survivors
People complaining in comments on how “Tatsumaki isn’t accurate, she BFRs Omniman ez!” is kinda hilarious. Considering how persistent Omniman is even in his damaged state.
@@carltasticdrew9633 You can see ppl saying that in this video right here
Mumen Rider giving Omni Man them hands
Basically omniman would get deleted by the S-class heroes.
Cell: *talking about Omni Man*
Music: "ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!"
How about Omni man vs Boros? Sounds interesting?
Atomic samurai 3 deciple vs Omni man would be better.
@@catfishsensei4306 Omni man is way faster and stronger, he'd wash them
His fight with Saitama alone and a few statements make it hard for Omni-Man to win
Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon is stated to be a star buster, that alone should give you an idea.
Flashy flash blitzes and one shots due to speed cliffing in the platinum sperm fight it was said if he had his sword he would’ve won. And they were moving mftl+
Not saying Omni-man would win but:
1. I don't ever recall it being stated that Flashy Flash would've beaten Platinum S had he had his sword. It's very clear that both Garou and Platinum S were holding back against Flashy Flash (considering how when they 1v1'd each other with Flashy Flash out of the picture they actually went faster than before). So even IF Flashy Flash had his sword, Platinum S and Garou just speed blitzes him.
2. Even the highest calcs of the constellation feat for Platinum S puts him to several hundred times FTL to maybe a few thousand. The video showed how a character significantly weaker than Omni Man is casually 70,000x FTL. And Omni Man gets stronger throughout the series as well.
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Platinum S himself said Flashy Flash was weaker without his sword and asked Garou to gang up on him. And Omniman going never goes that many times faster than light in his series, as his feats never depict he can fight or move as fast. It's just the fans who do those calculations based off how he traveled from planet to planet, but none of his fights were ever depicted to be as fast and none like the "constellation" fight of One Punch Man.
@@mikeym.4724 I didn't say Flashy Flash didn't get any weaker without his sword. I said that I doubt that it would do anything considering how much faster FP Platinum S and Garou was and Flashy Flash requiring his overwhelming speed to achieve victory, I doubt he could do much.
Platinum S didn't as Garou to gang up on Flashy Flash out of necessity. He just proposed to get rid of Flashy Flash faster so he and Garou can focus on more important matters, like fighting each other one on one.
If you've actually read the comic, you'd realize that that's blatantly untrue.
Omni Man flying 70,000x ftl isn't a one time thing.
Omni Man (comics) completely speed blitzed the Guardians of the Globe, including Red Rush and The Immortal, the former being able to stop crime throughout all of Russia in the time it took for his GF to notice WHILE she was having a conversation with him.
After Invincible recovered from killing Conquest in his second fight against him, he was able to, in a few hours, travel from some random solar system all the way to the Coalition of Planets Capital.
Invincible was able to fly faster than an intergalactic spaceship to get to earth faster to confirm whether or not the Viltrumites have invaded earth (spoiler, they did).
It's also explained that due to Subatomic particles BS, they can go MFTL speeds from guides.
You make it seem like those calculations aren't accurate or shouldn't be used. Did you forget that with the exception of a few series, most feats in all of fiction are literally calculated and tiered by its fanbase (or people debating against the verse)? So saying it's unreliable really means nothing as by your logic fan calcs of every verse is not valid. So congrats, we don't know if the S class is fast now too.
The reason why Omni Man or other equally fast (or faster) characters don't fight that fast is the same reason why most characters in fiction don't just speed blitz their opponents or travel around (insert distance here) when they have shown they are very fast. Plot-Induced Stupidity/author not understanding how fast they made their characters. Several times characters just get slower for no reason. Hell look at Garou. The same Garou that was able to create that constellation in 0.0012 seconds or whatever was not blitzing Sage Centipede (which average humans can react to him). So saying that Invincible characters isn’t fast because aside from that one or two fan calcs they have never shown any speed feats that show them that fast is like saying outside of two speed feats of Garou (Constellation and Saitama punching him so hard on Lo he bounced around the moon) Garou doesn’t have any speed feats showing him to be FTL.
Also, how TF is Invincible supposed to depict a feat above the constellation feat? You want them to also draw Invincible characters fighting so fast they create a constellation? What exactly do you want when you're asking for that?
@@ultimate_capper3643
Platinum S and Garou were faster but even at the end of the fight Flashy was still evading and reacting to them, before he got out he managed to get a few hits (and by that point he knew they were Faster, as he said 4 guys surpassed him that day, he meant Saitama, Blast, Platinum and Garou). You can react faster than what you can move. By having the sword he would've dealt more damage against Platinum, maybe even defeat him but he wasn't going to do anything against Garou, and as other guy pointed out in the comments Flashy wasn't that far behind their speed.
Secondly we never know how fast Omniman Is going in the comics, the 70, 000 times Faster than light are just calculations made by the fans (because of the statements of Omniman flying from planet to planet).
In the comic his speed Is never confirmed or mentioned.
And based off feats he never went like 70, 000 Times the speed of light.
Sure he Is Faster than the Guardians or other beings but that doesn't prove anything. I doubt Robert Kirkman ever thought about how fast he was going.
And the Guardians don't have any feats.
@@mikeym.4724 Wdym even at the end of the fight? Flashy Flash was beaten like halfway into the fight. And once again, he only fought against a non full power Platinum S and Garou; they proceeded to literally create a more condensed constellation than the 3 way fight. That’s like saying Krillin is SSJB Goku level because he managed to make a heavily Supressed SSJB Goku struggle against him in a beam clash. Not to also mention Flashy Flash was rage amped by the fact that his speed was surpassed by 4 people he just met in one day (rage can increase your power btw), so this is not a normal everyday Flashy Flash already.
Once again, having a sword doesn’t matter if the people you’re using it against is faster than you. Not to also mention most of Flashy Flash’s move REQUIRE him to blitz his opponents (something he cannot do in this situation).
Also who said Flashy Flash wasn’t that far behind in speed? When flashy flash was in the battle, there was no timer. When it was just Platinum S and Garou, there was a timer showing 0.0012 seconds or whatever AND showcased a more dense constellation. Whoever believes Platinum S isn’t significantly faster than Flashy Flash, especially a non enraged one is utterly delusional.
Bro I already debunked this argument. By your logic since no fanmade calc can be used, we cannot accurately tier anyone in the tier if system unless the creator of the verse themselves flat out state what they’re characters are capable of. Since we can’t use Omni man’s fanmade speed calcs, we shouldn’t be able to use Garou’s as well. So congrats, now we can’t discuss this topic at all now. What’s the point in commenting about this then?
Nor was it confirmed that Garou was hundreds or thousands of times FTL, yet that’s what the fanmade calcs show.
Also, did you read the Invincible data books? Cause if so you’d realize how wrong you are. I already told you that there’s a guidebook that flat out says Invincible characters can go MFTL speeds using subatomic particles or whatever (chuck did a good job explaining it). So yes, it’s very well confirmed and even IF it isn’t, it is also not confirmed that Invincible characters are slow as balls too.
I already disproved that. Casually blitzing a character running around every square inch of Russia and stopping crime in the same timeframe as your GF not noticing you were gone despite having a conversation with you should scale to it. So should Invincible flying so fast he OUTSPED a ship meant to travel entire GALAXIES. Or when he, in a few hours, traveled from a random solar system to the capital of the Coalition of Planets in a few HOURS. Even assuming that the distance was equal to the radius of our solar system (HUGE lowball), it would STILL be hundreds if not thousands of times FTL.
By your logic Murata also likely never intended for Platinum S Garou to be hundreds to over a thousand time ftl, yrt according to some fanmade calcs that’s how fast Platinum S and Garou were when they did that feat.
This last sentence you wrote proves you haven’t actually read the comic. Do it and come back to me. You’ll see just how wrong you are.
i mean does flying speed or travel speed equal to attack or combat speed?
Put Saitama in the mix and he solos Omniman
well duh...
No shit sherlock
bro saitama actually dog walks omni man, it's not even close
Saitama lost to a cat and a mosquito
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S-Class kills him, but if Omni Man somehow managed to seriously injure Bang, Tatsumaki, or Flashy Flash, then Blast gets put into the picture who can prob just teleport Omni Man next to a supermassive black hole and call it a night.
In a way Tatsumaki works the same as Martian Man being able to lock Omni-man and let his hero bros bully him. Like for example having Genos blasting him in the moustache
Blast breaks his limbs while Omni-Man is distracted by how mind-bendingly sexy Tatsumaki is. As he’s incapacitated, Puri Puri Prisoner savagely rapes him. Finally, Tatsu crushes him into a gobstopper and feeds him to Pig God.
What about the crossover omni man?
Then he would stomp
@@TheEmperorOfViltrum Nice PFP. How long did you have it?
Omni man would lose to tatsumaki, but he would fold genos.
Omni-man is planetary level while Tatsumaki can only be compared to multi-continental.
@@toweroffrogs9470Use your head. Omni-man is multicontinental.
King engine would be the frequency that weakens him because he is just that powerful
Does Multi Continental PLUS mean Moon level? or does it mean he can destroy multiple Continents with ease while a regular multi continental person requires way more effort?
Plus means they can stomp characters in that category. If a character has a plus behind a speed factor, they can blitz characters in that category
PS: I don't see Nolan as multi-continental though. It doesn't make sense
@@lucasbroome1048 thanks for the clarification
@@planetbirthday6859 YW
there’s an animation of omniman vs the s class i think it’s pretty good with the scaling
What do you think Omniman's chances are if you ignore the weird durability argument that he would just splat himself the second he punched any of the S Class heavy hitters? Assume they are fighting in the One Punch universe or a neutral middle ground setting or something. Do you think he could wear them down with hit-and-run tactics using his vastly superior speed?
Nolan wouldn't splatter against any of the heavy hitters. Blast isn't here and he's way above anyone else in the S Class
I don’t think his combat speed is actually that fast, his highest speed feats are flying straight through the vacuum of space and not during combat, which the high s class definitely does. I think if he can actually move that fast and react while in combat, he’d blitz them
@@lilricebowl9731 Nolan can move that fast in combat speed. His reactions and fights are relative to his travel speed
If dude is multi continental for absorbing power from the core of the Earth, then my house is multi planetary for absorbing power from the Sun.
There is a big difference, the guy physically moved what he was absorbing towards him, that's why it scales
The real issue is the fact he is facing all of the S class. While lower tiers pose little to no threat, relatively speaking, the combined force of higher ranked members is his ultimate downfall.
I think its fair to assume that Tatsumaki is the only one who can outright one shot him- Sure, guys like Genos, Flashy Flash, maybe Sliver Fang and what not can seriously hurt/cripple him but I personally(I repeat, only in my opinion) think that Omni man is resilient enough for him to not fold instantly.
One other think is his experience, might be a mute point all things considered but I doubt he will fodderise low S class members and instead will aim to take out Tatsumaki or anyone else with fire power advantage right away. Not to undermine her insane durability even without the barriers or someone like Genos most likely having strong durability but I personally think she can be killed, if blitzed initially. And Genos himself is not necessarily without a weakness, mostly me assuming his core can be ripped out of his body instead of just duking it out but I can be wrong about that since I'm not a big brain in either OPM or Invincible verse.
So, my conclusion is that he CAN win but most definetely doesnt. If he goes about it as he went with the Justice League knock off and lays down a trap, formulates the plan of attack and goes for the biggest threat at their weakest and succeeds at neutralising them at the start he has all the chances to solo the rest. But that would be 1 out of 100 or even 1000 fights. Rest is EZ clap by combined S class.
If I got any of this wrong feel free to destroy my uneducated opinion lol.
P.S. Metal Bat gets folded before he can get any of his strength since Nolan will go for the kill right away. I dunno, that fact is just funny to me for no apparent reason.
Ok maybe but the issue is Nolan wouldn’t have any idea how strong any of them are so it would be wrong to say he would instantly target tatsumaki and also he just doesn’t have enough power to rip out Genoa’s core he is way more durable than him
Also I don’t think there’s anything suggesting that the amps metal bat gets when he takes damage are temporary so I’d say metal bat currently is just as strong as he was when he fought Sage centipede
@@mrperfectcell5079 If its just a random/unexpected fight sure.
I was more or less assuming it was the same scenario as when he fought the defenders of the globe group. Cuz in all fairness its just a gang stomp otherwise lol.
@@mrperfectcell5079 Dont know about that, but not gonna argue either.
Could be one of the plausible ways to scale him anyhow.
My problem is He wouldn't know to just instantly Donut hole Tatsumaki.
A little "Who Would Win?" video request: I'd love to see you tackle Boros vs Thragg. It would be interesting see the Dominator of the Universe trade blows with the strongest Viltrumite.
Regen and star level cannon attacks, Thragg probably aint winningm
@@randomyoutuber2633 Boros having Star level AP with CSRC is mostly due to mistranslation from Japanese to English. The manga and anime has him saying either he'll destroy the planet outright or the planet's surface, which I think puts him the same category as Thragg.
@@thebatmanofneo-gotham5667 Still, Thragg probably dies to that attack, and it doesn't help that they have roughly the same speed probably.
@@randomyoutuber2633 But we don't know if he will or not, hence why I requested the match-up.
Also, didn't Thragg manage to last a good while in the Sun before he died? I'm sure he could survive some of Boros' energy blows.
@@randomyoutuber2633 Thragg should be fantastically faster than Boros, has more experience than Boros, has MUCH more stamina than him, has more AP than Boros, and dare I say is more ruthless than he is.
Plus, the manga said he'd destroy Earth's surface I'm pretty sure
Considering how in my eyes the guardians of the globe together are at most a low dragon and omni man took damage from that so I would say that a squad of darkshine, Silverfang, Metal Bat, Flashy Flash,Zombie man and Genos would be enough to kill or immobilise omni man
Omni man speed blitzed the guardians of the globe in the comics
@aboveanonymous4810 but for him to reach top speed it takes a while in that time the S class could easily restrain and finish him off in reality all it realistically would take is just tatsumaki her with the rest of the s class excluding blast and king would be overkill
Depends what day of the week it is
I'm rooting for Omniman and the viltromites.
I hope the rebuild their empire and conquer all.
I like them and thier proud warrior cukture, but they're self defeating. Once they bring the galaxy under their boot, they will have eliminated the only cause that keeps them from wiping themselves out. Same thing that happens when lions eat all the antelopes; they out number them and quickly wipe antelopes out, only to instantly be wiped out themselves we they starve.
Boros vs Omni Man?
Or maybe tharg or battle beast?
Boros is literally stronger than tatsumaki so it would just be the same result
Boros clears
@@mrperfectcell5079 Not according to a good chunk of the fanbase. Plus, I don't think even Tatsumaki can beat middle of series Mark who no sold the Mauler's super nuke designed to set off a solar storm in the sun
@@lucasbroome1048 no most of the fan base thinks Boros is stronger than tatsumaki lol
"we have death battle at home" death battle at home:
it's funny with this s class vs who or what they intentionally not including king and blast to make s class weaker
Idk man like Genos isn't as strong as Tatsumaki, he only reaches those levels thanks to his ten seconds mode and if he goes suicidal and Flashy Flash was not powerfull enought to take out Platinum Sperm let alone Monster Garou, he was also shown to be slower compared to them. Also Tatsumaki should be around the same level as the first version of Monster Garou that fought Saitama at best who shown to be Moon level at that version but she not Planetary level
Tatsumaki would be the only one superior to Nolan in AP and durability but she's way slower so it would be very difficult for her to hit Nolan and Nolan would take damaged like you said, another story would be Blast who was able to fight Cosmic Garou
So only those two should be able to beat Nolan but not Genos, the rest of the S Class has no businnes with someone that not only exceeds their AP, has higher durability and stamina but also its thousands of times faster than the entire S-Class (except Blast probably)
It's safe to assume roughly half of the S-Class could defeat Omni-man in my estimation.
None of the S class bar Blast can beat Nolan
@@lucasbroome1048 incorrect
@@Tai182 Only the top tiers of the S class reach small planet level which Nolan comfortably sits at. The only thing incorrect would be thinking any of the S class can hurt him
@@lucasbroome1048 Except he doesn't sit there comfortably. he doesn't sit there at all. It took 3 alongside a destabilization of the core to do that. The combined force of those three should scale to continental. And a single one should barely be continental as is. They would have literally instantly died had it not be destabilized.
@@The_Andromeda_Galaxy "It took 3 alongside a destabilization of the core to do that"
That's nice but blowing up the planet isn't what makes him small planet level. It's overcoming Viltrum's GBE. Viltrum is 1.5x bigger than Earth and has a GBE 1.25x higher than Earth's. Together, they launched moon sized debris past the ring that orbited Viltrum, overcoming the GBE (which was calced to be small planet level), & surviving the initial explosion that occurred at the bottom portion of Viltrum (which was also calced to be small planet level).
Viltrum is such an abnormal planet that Thragg and Mark had an easier time diving into the core of the sun rather than the core of Viltrum. Yet together they did it
There's also Nolan scaling to Mark who rammed an Earth sized moon out of Mars' orbit and have it crashing into the planet which was ALSO a small planet level feat
Seems to be pretty comfortably small planet level to me
The problems with vs. battles like this is that the comics aren't necessarily internally consistent with their speed and power thus power scaling, although done really well here, doesn't necessarily hold. For example while Genos may have high levels of energy projection he gets torn apart a lot in his own universe so I think Omniman takes Genos HOWEVER this may give heavy hitters a chance to land telling blows. Atomic Samari [with his magic? blade] and Tatsumaki likely only need one good chance to tip the balance.
He gets torn apart by people stronger than him so idk if that’s a fair point
Can you do a Doom Slayer vs Goku video? Or some other really powerful guy, like Kratos or Dante.
Don’t scale doom or kratos, check my recent community post it gives a hint to the series I’m doing next
@@mrperfectcell5079 The device I’m on doesn’t allow me to view posts.
@@mrperfectcell5079 Also, didn’t expect a reply from you so quickly.
@@MExperiences the verse is transformers (Bayverse)
@@mrperfectcell5079 Really? I thought the verse caps at like, town level or something. Is there like a universal+ scan I’ve never heard about or something?
Omni-Man is not beating Tsumaki and/or Blast.
Omniman absolutely would beat tatsumaki. Blast is up for grabs as omniman has the speed and strength to not only match him but beat him as well but the same could be said the other way around.
@@doublehelix2167I doubt he could beat tatsumaki
Blast has better AP but Omni man is just too fast and strong. Tatsumaki is def a win though.
@@myduckisonqauck7227 honestly i think it'd play out a lot like superman vs green lantern
@@wokeuplikedis1500 blast is weird because he could warp omniman all around forcing him to try and speed blitz. Who's to say he couldn't stop a warp half way through and like cut omniman in half with hax instead of power. That's why I'm on the fence about it.
I think Omni puts in the work on everyone up to Tatsumaki/Blast/OPM. Super Alloy Darkshine could probably hold up pretty well, but I don't him having the offensive oomph to take down Nolan.
Tatsumaki should be the last person Nolan can beat in the S class. I have him as one tier above Monster Garou/Boros and a few tiers below Blast
"All s class can match up with the speed of light"
Me : sooo pig god counts?
Omni man vs s class:😶
Omni man vs c class:💀
Blast > omni man
In invincible there are two characters that show up and are planet wipers and they are defeated by the new guardians and Brit which are all weaker than even the lower class viltrumites which Omni man up scales from because he can fight three viltrumites at the same time and continues to grow throughout the series so I feel like the multi continental is a really low balled Omni man
It’s also stated that the force of the explosion from the planet blowing up wouldn’t kill them it was the heat generated from it as viltrumites are vulnerable to extreme heat
@@cdcd4264exactly there scales were trash. the core was too hot so they had to destabilize it making it cool down. and i think they forget that planet viltrum had 5x earths gravity and was bigger making the core even bigger and hotter. Something like a moon doesn’t have a core so omniman can just straight of destroy it by flying through it. and also add on the fact that when omniman flies they build up gravity at a single point in front of them making their punches thousands of times stronger and also add on the law of torque of more speed = more power. Omniman could just build up enough speed to fly through every s class hero
Omni Man is not MFTL, only his travel speed
Tatsumaki didn't tank the energy blast from Psykos.. She dodged it and complained about Psykos getting so strong out of the blue.
Ok, omniman can travel hundreds if not thousands of times light speed. If he just went around the planet full speed nobody could stop him except blast. Genos may actually have blasts hot enough to harm Omni man but hes not fast enough to get him and one hit would make him fall apart like legos. Tatsumaki might have a chance but i could honestly see Omni just going so fast he pops straight through her barrier and shoving a hand through her guts.
That's travel speed. If he were capable of that speed in battle he would literally never even be seen by anyone he was fighting. It takes time to build up that amount of speed. In that time he could easily be killed.
@@genericwhitemale9566 while that's partly true you see in their battles in space they're incredibly fast. They specifically mention how most viltrumite's will not go too fast on a planet as to not kill everyone on it. We see a good example of this when Nolan kills everyone on a planet in seconds and then spends months finding ones that are still alive so he could get home. I think he could easily hit multiple times light speed near instantly if he needs to. There are actually examples of this with mark speed blitzing several characters in the comics before he's stronger than his dad.
He struggled against his own universe heroes and they are way weaker than s class
@@cavedweller4111 no he didn't, he killed every single one of the guardian without even getting seen. Literally flew past them all and it was over. Only struggling with other viltrumite's and Allen.
@@doublehelix2167The only reason why he won against them because they didn't expect that the best hero on the planet going kill them.
Proof's is spoiler's
In the comics when Mark traveled back in time he said that his dad gonna kill them. Then the heroes squad were ready for fight and simply won
I love omniman but tatsumaki solos no diff
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she’s doesn’t. omniman low diffs her
@darnellwoods8986 I want whatever you're smoking. Her physical durability may not be the highest in the verse but her ESP abilities are so insane that omniman can't do anything about it. She could fold him into himself with a thought
@@MiseryDuke69 Her shields are at max moon level. no one in the series is close to planet level besides full monster garou and on or boros. Omniman pops through her shields no problem. The reason he couldn’t fly through a planet that had 5x earths gravity was bc the heat of the core. viltrumites are vulnerable to heat. so something like a moon which has no heat core omniman would destroy quite easily as the moon isn’t denser then earth lt alone viltrum. Add on the fact that lesser characters like tech jacket who is multi continental minimum gets fodderized by viltrumites aslo up scales omniman. then add on the fact someone tech jacket beat killed a planet eating giant who goes around absorbing planets cores like galactus. he was literally called “planet eater” and lower tier viltrumites scale above him as well. so omniman is at a MINIMUM Moon level LOW BALLED. High balled hes large planetary and middle balled hes planetary. So he scales directly to her shields in this isn’t even adding on the fact that his strength gets boosted thousands of times when flying bc of when viltrumites fky they build a significant amount of gravity in front of them and then ALSO ADD on the law of more speed = more power. omniman gets thousands of times stronger from his moon level self. he low diffs and blitzes. don’t bother responding if u can’t refute everyone of my points
@@darnellwoods8986
Viltrum has 1.25 times the density of the Earth and 1.5 times the size. (As someone else in this comment thread pointed out).
And again the only reason their plan of destroying Viltrum worked was because the gun of Space Racer (that Is by far More powerful than a viltrumite, Given It could kill them during the assault on the planet).
The Gun of Space Racer was the tip of the spear, the plan was that the shot from Space Racer's gun would make the core unsteable enough for Mark, Omniman and Thadeus to Punch through the Planet and destroy the planet.
Again Given the fact Viltrum has 25% More density than the Earth doesn't mean It puts him in the small Planet TERRITORY and It Is a fact the gun of Space Racer did most of the trick as It was the tip of the spear of the attack. (And even then Nolan, Thadeus and Mark could've died).
So nah.
Nolan Is at Best multicontinental or Moon level at Best. Anything More Is just wank.
(Tatsumaki should still be able to deal with His power).
omni man was just chilling around a black hole
tatsumaki aint doing shit
That was calculated at less than mountain level
And This Is Not Even Accounting Blast By The Way, If Blast Comes In, It's Basically Over.
The problems I have is that Tatsumaki and especially Genos can't really do much against Omni Man's raw speed, its not like Genos can tag him before his ten seconds are up. And also Omni Man is not so weak in comparison when it comes to power especially to the point where he would blow himself up if he hits any of the higher tier S-class heroes like those other 'FODDER' viltrumites. I think the S-class would lose due to Omni Man's speed.
On the one hand, that is certainly possible, on the other, unless he kills Tatsumaki first, he loses cuz she could just immobilize him. I doubt he has the strength to overpower her telekenesis.
And before you insist she couldn’t grab him, her first demonstrated strength feat was grabbing an Asteroid from who the fuck knows where, and dragging it to earth in seconds. Clearly she doesn’t need to see something to grab it.
a cheetah might be faster than a bear but a cheetah is certainly not gonna be able to kill a bear
@@kratos4624 not under normal circumstances, anyway. It might if the bear were injured, or if it attacked in a pack.
Omni man ain't that fast
@@kratos4624 That implies the cheetah is weaker than the bear though
Well the fact a teenage invincible killed spawn is enough of a reason for me to believe he would win.
Yeah but that's also kinda iffy if we look at Spawn
@@zetsub0u115 the series made it canon, they even brought in another spawn to fight against the army of invincibles.
You realize that Spawn can be a street tier to outerverseal right? 🤣 Spawn shouldn't be measure used to scale them, I'm not saying you can't but how strong was the Spawn he defeated exactly?
@@nicholasaugello2534 well you have omnipotus with a ability to absorb a infinite amount of energy, and has a op reality warping power, and he absorbed all of the energy in his universe so, I would say it was a powerful Spawn of a evil invincible is bragging about killing his version of spawn.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 Invincible bragging doesn't mean that Spawn he fought is all that powerful, he's just strong in the invincible verse. Spawn can range from like street level to Outerversal. You actually believe that Mark, who needed 2 other powerful viltrumites to destroy a planet, was capable of beating the high tier versions of spawn?
3:35 did you say someone takes damage if they attack someone stronger than themselves? If so, why does it show one character getting punched and the punched character is taking damage?
Because the way you said it makes it sound like " x attacks y. X explodes. Y is winner."
They aren’t taking damage that blood is not from invincible
@@mrperfectcell5079 So you're saying the guy closest to Invincible is exploding because he punched Invincible?
@@liquidred257 yes this kinda shit happens a lot in comic series I think right after this mark starts pleading with the other viltrumites to stop killing themsleves
As much as I love OPM, I do think this video was a bit unfair. The calculations for omni-man were more accurate than most other videos, but those for OPM were definitely highball. Especially with giving guys like silver fang "stronger than orichi/moon level AP" when he didn't even kill Rover. Even Boros has some "multi continental" scaling, so giving S class heroes small planetary AP is a bit of a stretch
You're BLATANTLY fucking wrong about Boros.
At worst he is planetary level, at best he is straight up fucking star level.
Do some research.
And while saying that upper S Class is moon to small planetary level is a stretch, it still doesn't change the outcome.
The upper S Class still scale much higher in strength then Nolan does.
@maxdrags3115 I do believe boros is a large planetary level, at least since the guide where it was stated to be star level can be translated both ways (planet/star/large cosmic object). But some people use the "blasting the surface of the planet to hell" statement to prove he is multi-continental (which I don't agree on). In my personal opinion, Nolan could 1v1 every S class hero except blast and would probably be 50/50 with Tatsumaki. But yeah, if they fought him all together, they'd win with only a few deaths
@@maxdrags3115 If Nolan were to run an S class gauntlet, I say he'd stop at Blast
If Red Rush can damage him (a guy with no super strength, and who should be way slower than Omniman)
Then i don't see why the S Class can't lol.
Like compare the Guardians of the Globe to the S Class and the Guardians are fodder my dude lol.
Even Tank Top Master, the weakest S Class and a Demon level threat in terms of power.
Can throw a large building thousands of feet into the air. And he got fodderized by a Dragon level threat (most of the upper S Class are indivually Dragon or Above in terms or power).
And again compare that to the Guardians of the globe who almost killed Omniman.
Is just not even close.
Atomic Sandbag (Atomic Samurai) would likely kill Omniman with the sunblade.
Like if Red Rush can do that damage to the chest of Omniman why wouldn't Flashy Flash? (Who Is by far physically stronger than red Rush, and i would say even Faster).
Wow, OPM wank like no tomorrow and not even for the common ones. Disgusting, but innovative.
Let's get this bullshit out of the way the only time Genos scales to the meteor is with 10 second mode as he directly states he should be able to destroy it with his full power. Metal Knight's full arsenal includes OPM's nuclear bombs-which scale above Tatsumaki when killing Orochi (a feat that heavily exhausted her and caused blood to spurt out of her) and are referred to again when COSMIC GAROU first debuts. So Genos doesn't scale to this without his 10 second full power. Most of the S Class have feats in the town-mountain ranges much more consistently.
Genos doesn't have durability on par with AP in 10 second mode, he literally MELTS and is on the verge of EXPLODING after using the spiral incineration canon. It can match the ocean cutting beam though so he is multi continental.
Orochi's Gaia canon is not moon level or small planet-it does fuck all damage to the planet despite having planetary range and being right at the core itself. Often times timeframes are assumed which shouldn't be done for a manga panel, especially with the earthquakes lasting multiple pages and Saitama not doing anything about it. The feat is multi continental. It's also inferior to Psykos' ocean cutting beam, calced to multi continental consistently since that attack is stated to be God given and Orochi's flame attacks can't even pierce the aura Tats gives a rock double of herself.
Tats tanking the beam is not valid, not only is her defense broken through by significantly weaker attacks like Psykos' spears but she outright says that beam is more powerful than her and needed to actively NERF Fused Psykos to defeat her. Still overpowering the ones that match Genos though is a multi cont feat based on the explosion both make.
Their best bet is to try frying Omni Man's smart atoms with heat attacks (incineration canon is the best bet) or Tats to use durability bypassing moves, or Metal Knight to pull a Mechagodzilla. and fire all weapons. Invincible characters can fight much longer and in much worse conditions than OPM ones can.
As for Omni Man's speed, this is done by acceleration and is never done on a planet-though on planets the Invincible series boasts relativistic to light speed feats. And if he's using his speed from space why not just take them to space so they die in the vacuum?
TLDR: OPM is wanked here and the battle should be much closer though the S Class high tiers still win more times than not.
Just because he says he can destroy the meteor with his ten second mode doesnt mean he is only NOW capable of doing it as the databook still implies if he and the metal knight drone that was there (who is relative to genos) teamed up they would have destroyed it
why does metal knight have nuclear bombs and why do they scale above tatsumaki? also no tatsumaki didnt injure herself God did it as we see the page prior has a panel zooming in on the moon, which is HEAVILY linked to GOD on the monster association arc.
genos does have the durability even without his sprial incineration canon he was still able to deflect psyorochi's attacks and hold them off briefly and newtons 3rd law would make it so his durability should scale
it doesnt do any damage to the planet because saitama literally stopped it and also AP doesnt always have to equate to DC and yes while the timeframe is assumed it was still only a few pages so it clearly didnt take all that long and its clearly moving up very fast so a 30 second timeframe which is what most of the calcs used i think is perfectly fine also earthquakes last 10-30 seconds so again i think the timeframe the calcs use is fair.
also psykorochis beams could very well be much higher than multi continental its just that since it only affected a small part of the planet due to where it was aimed thats all we have to go off, but due to her being able to one shot that orochi she should be moon-small planetary as well
tatsumaki never states the beam is more powerful than her that was psykos who said that and even then she is blantantly wrong is tatsumaki flat out overpowered her and was suppressed the entire time until like the very end and she clearly did get hit by the attack as her clothes got damaged. also when tf did tatsumakis barriers get pierced by spears?
@@mrperfectcell5079 Yes actually, it does. It is a SPECIFIC metric of the power of his 10 second full power. Genos is even SURPRISED a being could match the power to destroy the meteor despite getting his ass handed to him multiple times by demon and dragon level threats. Scaling everyone to it is dishonest as fuck. Metal Knight has an arsenal that is known to put him on par with Tatsumaki, Blast, and "King" there's zero evidence the drone and Genos could do anything especially when neither of their attacks work. Canon>supplementary anyway.
He outright says he does before the HA decides to do a manned mission to save the hostages, he wanted to just nuke the base. Tats destroying Orochi with the base is DIRECTLY stated to be like a nuke. No, she did injure herself. She's shown panting, blood gushing out of her and states HERSELF she used too much power. God did nothing to her, even approaching her to give her power. Why would you break something you want to use? That's stupid.
Wrong, 10 second mode is all about AP. It directly comes to a detriment of his durability as specifically stated by Kuseno. He literally melts from the mere recoil of his own attacks.
Nice misread, it doesn't do anything to the planet WHILE in action. Orochi yanked energy out FROM THE CORE, and "small planet" level AP does nothing to the core, mantle and crust? Yeah, bull. And no, One Punch Man is a series all about DC. The characters wear their strength on their sleeves with the ONLY exception being just holding back. This is completely consistent and there's no justification of AP in the series. What you see is what you get. "Clearly" why? We know the MA raid takes place over at least a whole night so there's literal HOURS of time to spare. Reminder these FTL characters are dicking around in an area the size of a small town with 1.5 kilometers being notable for the base's size. Not earthquakes of global scale like Orochi's (the planet has a rumbling effect on it), those last 5 minutes. That drops the KE down to multi continental.
Unlikely as she aimed into the ocean and then spun the beam around, adding damage to the attack's direct AP. Not to mention we don't get moon/small planet feats until monster Garou literally dents Earth and that Garou shit on any Cadre or S Class (save Blast). Her being able to one shot Orochi is very questionable, monsters in the series tend to lack credibility and just spout out bloodthirsty nonsense not to mention Psykos herself is very unreliable. She didn't even know how strong Orochi was and she MADE him.
She deadass said "no way she could get that much power" while sweating after the big laser fires. Again, Tatsumaki WEAKENED Psykos first by going up her roots and twisting her from the inside (also directly stated that the fusion's barrier was too tough to pierce). Orochi and the fusion by default grow larger and stronger by absorbing biomass and blood. Tatsumaki squeezed blood out, shrinking the monster and making them weaker. This is also when Genos scales to Fused Pykos, not to full power. I didn't say she didn't get HIT, I said she doesn't SCALE fully. Literally right when Genos shows up. Psykos stabs her, shocks her and pins her down for a beam and then Genos pulls up. Unless you think Tats had a barrier up (that MUST have been broken since she didn't have it up in the next shot) this should scale the same.
Her being suppressed is also not stated, she went all out it's just that she was spreading her power out over the area and at the end concentrated all of it on Psykos-she also damages herself doing this.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 even if you wanna take that bogus statement what genos says us that he can ONE SHOT the meteor at fp that doesnt mean he didnt scale to or above it before and thats IF we take the interpretation he is only now capable of doing it which i think is wrong because again the databook says that him and the emtal knight drone that was there could have destroyed the meteor if they worked together. and the databook was written BY BOTH ONE AND MURATA, so no you cant say the manga has priority here
metal knights arsenal is entirely unknown for the most part and its entirely headcanon to say it puts him on fucking TATSUMAKI AND BLAST LEVEL the best you can say it scales to is elder centipede
he melts a bit from his spiral incineration canon but his prioir attacks that he used didnt melt him at all he was just fine and these attacks were still deflecting and holding back psykorochi's beams for a decent while
it actually does displace the earths mantle and stuff a bit if you LOOK at the page, and i can just say orochi can control the AOE of the attack and yes AOE DOES EXIST IN OPM, maybe not as much in a series like dbz but it does exist whether you like it or not.
yes while there is a buncha time to spare it clearly isnt fucking 5 minutes dude it basicaly crosses the distance in 2 panels and the rest of the pages are just the characters reacting to what is ahppening during those two panels theres no way it was several minutes when that long of a timespan isn't even remotely implied also
quake.utah.edu/earthquake-information-products/earthquake-faq#:~:text=Generally%2C%20only%20seconds.,intermittently%20for%20weeks%20or%20months.&text=Is%20there%20an%20%27earthquake%20season%27%20or%20%27earthquake%20weather%27%3F,-No.
this says strong earthquakes last 10-30 seconds
ok yes while the beam was being swept around the way it was aimed still made it so it only hit part of the earth's crust and yes while psykos may not know orochi's fp psychorochi literally HAS OROCHI's MEMORIES THATS HOW SHE WAS SOMEHOW ABLE TO KNOW SAITAMA DEFEATED OROCHI
also thats not true boros is planetary and im trying to argue this is too so dont just go ahead and try and slip in garou being only one with moon level calcs and i don't see why that matters regardless
What tatsumaki ACTUALLY said was that theres no way psykos should have gotten as big as a powerup as she did just by absorbing a few other monsters which does not at all mean psykorochi>tatsumaki
you again lied it was never said she couldnt pierce her barrier all that was said was that the barrier was powerful which does not mean she couldnt pierce it she probably only used its weakspot because it was consume less energy to bypass and it would be much easier also again suppressed tatsumaki
and while yes tatsumakis attack did damage psykorochi she quickly recovered from her attack and was able to damage her suppressed state so i would say her power didn't drop too much if at all
i mean if tasumaki basically tanks the energy blast with basically no damage then she should scale fully she also just casually negated and deflected one of them later sooooooo...
also no way i am responding to whatever bible you type next i have better things to do
@@mrperfectcell5079 That's LITERALLY what it means stupid. I can cause it's still secondary. Both that Genos and the drone scale to nothing impressive of that scale. Genos is INCAPABLE of doing anything to the meteor and so's Bang. That's shown and stated in the SERIES, taking all priority over supplementary stuff.
It's headcanon to lie like an idiot and say the S Class scale to the meteor.
Decent while, 10 seconds, then starts melting, okay.
It DOESN'T you can see on the PAGES that it literally just plucks out and then the layers are UNDAMAGED. And NO, you can't, cause that's headcanon. AoE doesn't exist in OPM. That's just bullshit.
It clearly isn't implied to be seconds when there's so many reaction shots and literally NOTHING is being done to stop it.
www.volcanodiscovery.com/earthquakes/faq/how-long-do-earthquakes-last.html
The largest earthquakes, say a GLOBAL one, last multiple minutes. L. Mag 5 and 6 last 30 seconds, but those wouldn't rumble the entire planet.
Sure she doesn't fire it into the ground like when Frieza nuked Namek but you cannot prove it'd do more damage than it actually SHOWED. Okay and Orochi thought he'd neg Saitama too, why is a MONSTER STATEMENT reliable?
Garou's only moon level pre Cosmic, and VASTLY superior to any of the Cadre or S Class-no one in the series besides God, Blast, Boros and Saitama would be superior to that feat when Sage Centipede literally rose from the ground and despite being thousands of miles long and stronger than Orochi he does NO such damage. Boros' planetary statements come from an attack that require a Serious Punch to deflect, what does HE have to do with anything?
Nice wrong reading there buddy. She literally says no way she'd get that strong.
She literally in character breaks other psychic's barriers why wouldn't shje just do the same and get it over with? She's not only the type to do that but she literally tried to end the fight quick MULTIPLE TIMES. If she could take the short route, she would. Not suppressed, actively going all out-lying doesn't help you.
She shrinks, loses blood which Orochi amps with, and never recovers fully hence the damaged look afterwards. Or Tats doesn't scale to the full power laser, crazy.
Literally not what happened but keep lying. WHEN NERFED.
Like make bullshit up? Yeah okay.
@@mrperfectcell5079 Common of a One Punch Man wanker to make bullshit up and then flee.
Nice analysis my dude.
i dont think nolan has the reaction speed stated in the video. travel speed sure, but thats in space with no friction and infinite space to accelerate. in the fight between guardians of the globe, with having MFTL reaction speeds absolutely none of the heros should be able to touch him, and while being multi-continental none of their attacks should do anything at all to him, yet he collapses after the fight while i dont think none of the heros are even close to multi-continental
King can use his speical armor called "plot armor" to beat omni man
Kings engine beat would probably range in a frequency that could hurt omniman. Fuck, I hate plot-armor.
And this is not including blast and king. Although if you did put those two in here then the fight would be over before it began.
I mean Omni Man can fly. I always wonder why charackters with flight don't just "store" non-flight characters in the vacuum of space and double check a week later. Or in the case of Omni Man: Just arrange a beautiful bombardment with hundreds of meteors. Don't get me wrong: Tatsumaki Psi Powers > strong flight man, I agree
you do know that tatsumaki can also fly right..?
Also tatsumaki could just telekinetically hold him still and let the rest beat him up
Hi Cell
What you think about Saitama(manga) and Boros(manga) vs all Viltrumites(comics)
Saitama like neg diffs
@@mrperfectcell5079 how much do you scale saitama?
I just saw a lot of debates about Omni man and Saitama where many people say that Omni man is much faster than Saitama which is why Saitama will have difficulties
And thanks for the quick response
@@DB-Papyrus multi solar system level which is way way way above any viltrimite
@@mrperfectcell5079 Thanks Cell for the perfect and quick answers.
and the last question is how do you scale the strongest Viltrumite
@@DB-Papyrus I would scale them to multi continental for destroying viltrim
Wow saying genos durability should equal his attack for the 10 sec mode is wild. The form is specifically made to have higher attack stats
Short answer: no
Long answer: no
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I enjoy the fluff, but if anyone without 'speedforce' or something similar does FTL in atmosphere we would know it in all the wrong ways, either the weapons aren't as fast as they look or the characters are using toon-force and can't be scaled, ruins most what-if match-ups
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1 by 1? Nearly all of them
1 vs all S-Class? Some will be killed but ultimately he'll die
Could you do a vid about what threat level dragon ball characters would be in opm
Any saiyan saga character would literally be god
They'd literally all be god level threats , even Raditz can blow up the planet 🤣
Yeah og db
@@nicholasaugello2534Raditz is large moon level
@meganpedersen2719 No he is not he is MUCH higher then that.
Besides Bulla, it’s hard to imagine a more perfect woman than Tatsumaki.
Really? She needs more character development to say she's near perfect
I just know what I saw, those weak heroes at the beginning of the serie managed to make Omniman a lot of damage.
He just have no chance against class S heroes.