Passing the MSF Course Skills Test
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2015
- Showing you the 4 skills tests that you need to pass at the end of the MSF course. Some states do things a little different than what I show here, but it is basically the same. This was the MSF course in New Jersey. Please click LIKE and SUBSCRIBE!
Can’t stress how important it is to STAY CALM, like the man said. If you’re freaking out about each exercise and stiffening up, your riding is gonna suck. I passed by making myself chill out, and it’s not easy but you can do it. Any day of riding is a good day, remember? So have fun! :)
Exactly how I find myself, even during practicing.. I hate tests and end up shutting down. I have to get off my bike to stretch and take some breaths, calm down so I can focus and go again.
I just started riding on dirt bikes... once I got used to it I found I was able to keep my hands and arms a lot more loose instead of death gripping the bars.... it helped a lot.. went riding some trails yesterday, and it was some of the most fun I've had in my life.
I failed out of mine on the first range day in 1 1/2 hours...couldn't find Neutral, couldn't feel the friction zone, nearly dumped the bike on the ground twice, goggles fogged up to where I couldn't see, and by the time the break between exercises came around I was shaking so badly the instructor had me sign a form asking me not to continue, for safety's sake. It was the first time I'd EVER been in command of a motorcycle myself--no previous experience, unlike the rest of the class. So, my cousin is teaching me now, and when the time comes I'll take the class again.
+Alonzo Branson How are you coming along now bro?
Ogre Doug I've gotten registered for a beginner rider class at the end of July. This time I should do a lot better. Didn't have enough money to register for another class last year to try again.
Alonzo Branson
Well good luck to you man, just relax and focus on what you gotta do to ride. Where do you live. The course is free where I live
Ogre Doug
Ogre, last year it was $199, but this year it's $75. I live in Indiana, and am taking the class through ABATE of Indiana.
Alonzo Branson well good luck man. I wonder why some states charge and others don't
very simple and detailed explanation, watching this video made me feel a lot less nervous about getting my motorcycle license ! thank uu !!
I'm glad to hear that. Thank you and good luck!
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Passed this course through Harley’s MSF class. I can’t stress enough how important it is to keep your head up and look where you’re going, I barely hit a cone turning 90 degrees from a stop and it haunts me that I got three points marked off because I knew to look up but I fixated on the cone and surely it costed me
I completely bombed my skills test 3 times, which was 3 points away from passing. First couple times riding a motorcycle. Also was in summer so the heat nearly killed me. My advice to people is never feel ashame to learn something the right way it might take awhile but its worth it. Completed a dream of mine learning how to ride a motorcycle.
Check out “Be the boss of your motorcycle “ UA-cam channel. I guarantee you will learn something valuable from watching his videos. I recommend them to everyone who rides. Regardless of your skill level you will learn something new by watching his videos.
Thank you for being real! A lot of people are terrified of failing. But if it’s worth doing you should at least fail it once 😉 (unless you have no problem at all)
I bombed my first riding skills as well. Test anxiety, and personal pressure on myself, as well looking at dang cones to maneuver. Dang it. Retaking the skills test this coming Monday. Reminding myself "the bike goes where your head goes." And head up, look forward, and peripherals every day leading up to monday. Wish me luck.
@@allenmicheal8134 you got it no problem!!! All you gotta do is pass it once
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Took the class and passed. It helped me get my nerves on the bike in check and confidence way up. Now I am really comfortable on the bike now.
Just to clarify - the current iteration of the MSF course is different to what is described here. Regardless, this explanation of the points system is incorrect. There is NOT a limit of 5 points per exercise. A fail on the skills evaluation is NOT 20 points, it is less than that.
As a student please do not focus on points accumulation, rather focus on learning the skills on the range. If you do not pass the first time around please don't think of it as failure. It just means that you need some more practice to become more competent with basic riding skills. Some riding schools provides a free retest of the skills eval so don't sweat it. Safety is #1 for every school and the course is designed to ensure that successful students have at least the basics down before they head out on the road on their own. If you don't get through the skills eval the first time it just means you haven't attained that minimum level yet.
Even if you get through, please please please remember that you're only a novice motorcycle rider. Practice and improve your skills on your own - especially quick stops and swerving. It should be easy for anyone to buy a few cones, find an empty parking lot and practice! Old tennis balls cut in half also make great markers in a pinch.
Good luck out there!
Nick
MSF RiderCoach
It’s 20 points total for passing. Anything above that is a non-passing score. MSF Coach should know that.
You’re stupid shut up
Different states different rules.. Illinois was 12 points was fail. 3 stalls fail. Fall off fail. Its just different different places.
I suggest a new rider with a new license find a mentor and spend some time riding with him/her. This will help improve skills for both riders.
New motor officers out of motor school are paired up with a training officer for weeks and even months in some cases.
@@spdrcr60 No, it's not. You're clearly not an MSF RiderCoach and have no idea of the scoring criteria. 🙄 stay within your lane - leave the scoring to us certified, professional coaches
I passed the course on my first go but watching this video gets me back in that scary place I was in when I took it 😭😰😨
At least you never have to do it again! Unless you want to ;-)
Thank you for explaining so well. It's way less stressful when you know what you're getting into. Taking this course today and tomorrow, hopefully will pass now that I know what I need to do!
Howd it go?
@@cyrusbastankhah576 Must of failed🤣😂
@@terrywatts1060 and you must have failed your English class. Jk
@@dublethetruble4620 😂🤣
How did it go???? Lol
My first course, I was deemed unsafe and encouraged to leave the second day. The second course, I failed with... 32 points. I bought a cheap used 250 and have been practicing everyday, and I've seen such an improvement in my skills. I think for some people this comes very easily, especially if you have any prior experience, but others like me it takes a few times. I have severe performance anxiety, and I pretty much spent most of the class in a low key panic attack. Also to add, I have scoliosis so I have to angle myself in an unusual way to get a tight right turn. But this is my dream, and I won't give up.
One thing I *hated* was how close people would get behind you, the one guy couldn't stop in time and would always stop right next to your tire. I was already freaked out, and I kept telling them I would slap them if they got that close to me out in the real world. Luckily, I uh, wasn't there to make friends.
Michelle - keep practicing those skills and then go retake the course. You should sail through. If another student is making you nervous, let a RiderCoach know quietly so they can keep an eye out for specific behavior and address when necessary. We aim to make sure the environment is as stress free for EVERY student. Good luck!
Did you eventually get your license?
yeah im sure telling strangers youre going to slap them really helped your situation
@@adamhicks24 you're a troll get the fuck out of this comment section. This was a touching story sp stop hating
I hate when people comment and then catch ghost.
Thank you for posting this, by far the best explanation I’ve seen on UA-cam and this eases some nerves for sure!!
Thanks for posting this. Last year I tried to do the msf course and completely lost all confidence within 2 hours that I could do this. I had dropped the bike twice, was wobbly when first getting going, couldn't do the maneuvers well, couldn't shift gears well. During the first break I voluntarily removed myself from the class and ran home with my tail between my legs and felt so terrible. The next week I went out and bought a motorcycle off of Craigslist and practiced in a nearby parking lot for a few weekends and got the basics down. Even after all this I was nervous about taking the msf again because I didn't want to look like a dumbass and fail the course on the test but this has given me the confidence to try again.
Did you pass?
That’s not unusual. A lot of msf course riders are total newbs and so was I. What threw me off and distracted me for much of skills portion was the clutch, shifter, throttle coordination. It’s best to practice before taking the course to kinda get those down so you can focus on the skills. I actually took the msf course twice. The first time right before Covid when I was about to buy a bike which got delayed once Covid shut everything down for almost two years. The second time was a lot easier. Practice Practice Practice and you’ll be fine in time. I rode around my neighborhood a couple days a week for about a month before I got over the butterflies of going out in traffic on highways as city streets. Haven’t looked back and love every minute of it. Safe riding bro.
Thanks so much for this video Jelly. I had my first day of the MSF course today and although it was my first ever time on a motorcycle, I felt really comfortable and confident, and had lots of fun. Hope I pass the skills test tomorrow!
Dude, the best video ever on the MSF test - very well detailed and through - thanks
Thank you for including the part about the kick stand being down. I had that exact issue today and thought something was wrong with my bike until I discovered the same issue.
First time on a motorcycle this past weekend and passed the test. This video helped ease me before going for my 2nd day. Did awful the first day but aced it the 2nd. Thanks
Good to hear! Get as much experience as you can
I’m here before my second day too. Needed something to ease my nerves before the riding portion 😂
Like many have said, very simplified and detailed as far as what to expect, how you’re evaluated, and how much you really don’t need to stress about this. Thanks brother, taking my final test tomorrow
How did it go?
@@theprodigal7143 It went great! Everyone in my group passed. We had a monsoon happen halfway through our test and they eventually cancelled the last 30% of the test. It wasn’t bad at all. Nerves get to you, more than anything because that’s the one time where everyone is watching you. I did the figure 8s all day long and kept making the turns tighter and tighter with success. During the test, I dropped a leg down on a much bigger figure 8 just due to nerves. Don’t let it stress you out
took the same exact test, he explained it very well, great video.
+zico falcao Thanks!!
Dude thank you for posting this!!! I have my test tomorrow, and your video made me feel way less worried about it! Awesome explanations and tips man!
Esai Barron Thanks! Good luck
This was an awesome video. It has made me feel more confident in taking the class. I loved how well everything was explained in detail. Thank you
Thank you for this video, this really calmed my nerves down. I am taking the course this weekend!
Taking my class at the end of this month. I'm new to riding, and hopefully I should do good and pass the class, and this video definitely put me at ease because I know what to expect now. Thanks!
Josh, you will do great and have a blast. Your class may do a thing or two different but it is generally what to expect. If you are not subscribed please subscribe! I have a few videos for new riders. Thanks for taking the time to write.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video! Very thorough and helpful!
Man, I really enjoyed your personal instructional video. Yesterday, July 24, 2019, I signed up for the course on September 6, here in Alabama. I saved your video because I plan to review it a few times before I take the test. I have a lot of biking experience on electric bikes, lol And I only rode a gas bike while serving in the Marines. For years I have always wanted to ride in Rolling Thunder in DC. You and your up front and personal explantation of the new riders course increased my confidence and lowerd my stress level, lol. I can not visualize what I can expect in September. Good job bro. Thanks.
Thank you so much! Have fun with it. it is very easy. with your experience you will do great
Thank you so much! I am in vegas and today is my 3rd and last day of the course. I am so nervous as day 2 was my first time on a bike. I clearly need more practice and am so worried about failing today. I stalled a million times yesterday but never dropped the bike. This is good info to keep me out of my head today and just keep pushing forward. Thank you!!
Michelle Desoto good luck!
Good luck hope it went well for you. I did mine last weekend to.
Did you pass? Do you ride now?
I took the MSF class in the mid 90s and thought it was a very good class. I haven't ridden in 25 years. I bought a new bike and the muscle memory had faded but it's coming back. I downloaded the MSF manual and my state's motorcycle guide and will work my way through both of them, and will do the MSF practical exam (and a bit more) in a vacant parking lot.
Thank you for starting off with the reassurance that the test is very easy!
Best video on UA-cam I've seen regarding the tests on the course.
Wow, I been looking around youtube for a good video on this subject and I played this one I said to myself...WOW this by far is the best explained video on the MSF course! Thank you, you should have way more subscribers. Anyway I'd like and subscribed. Again thank you !!!
JR BORIQUA7 Thank you so much! I'm looking forward to making new videos once it warms up. Stay tuned. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Thanks for the tips! I've got the MSF testing portion tomorrow, so these tips definitely help.
derkasan Good Luck! Let me know how it went. You'll do great
Jelly I passed! Didn't have to do the box, but I had to do a weave on top of the other stuff you mentioned. Thought I screwed up when I put my foot down during the weave, but I made up for it by aceing the emergency stop.
Thanks again for the video! If I ever meet you in person, I owe you a beer.
derkasan Awesome! Glad you didn't have to do that stupid box and that you passed! I'm glad the video helped and hope you subscribe. Be safe
This is exactly, down to every single detail, how it was when I did the MSF BRC to get my US license here in Texas. I had already plenty of riding experience from having a driver's license from back home in Europe, but I still picked up a few valuable lessons on the course. Definitely recommend everyone taking the course instead of doing it on your own, even though getting your license here in the US is laughably easy compared to in most European countries.
Great video, I'm sure it has been and will continue to be of great help for people looking to get their M endorsement in the US!
+mannydcbianco I appreciate your kind words! I agree that this course is valuable to people even if they have experience. I am thinking of taking the advanced rider course next year.
This is awesome. You have definitely helped calmed my nerves As a first time rider.
I passed my MSF today. Dropped the bike before the test while in "The Box." Hit the line and probably even went out of the box on the test, but I aced the rest.
+Freddy Fmunoz Awesome! Some courses do one or two things different but they are basically the same. Let me know how you do
Knocked out everything today, in the cold rain too. Super excited!
Just found this video. Taking the course on March 28-29. $289 in Florida. Great video, great explanation. Thank you!!
Great Video. You are correct in that scoring for the 4 Skills Evaluations is a maximum of 20 points total for successful completion. One can accumulate more than 5 points per Skill Eval though. The U-Turn box is a max. of 8 points. Lots of students freak over the box, but it alone will not fail a person. For the 3 re-maiming evaluations one can accumulate a max. of 15 per eval. Score sheets are set to MSF Standards and should be the same nationwide for the MSF-BRC.
Thank you for the info and commenting!!
I struggled with the U-turn really bad. Put my foot down which automatically gave me 5 points. Ended up passing with a total of 13 points (16 is failing) so just barely passed. Was a great experience overall though
Oh man this video is a major relief.
Just finished my first day out in the parking lot and I was trippin on how hard the test was.
HospitalmanMikey the fun stuff is the next couple of days
Awesome job explaining the whole process. You eased my mind a bit now. Thanks!
Cool man. Glad you liked it. You'll be fine. Enjoy it. It's a lot of fun
I really like how you did this video I looked through so many videos and they don't explain anything and they never show how they did the maneuvers
+jeff Shannon Thanks Jeff! That is the main reason I went into the MSF course with the intent to make this video the way I made it. I was not able to find exactly what I wanted. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
This helped me pass with a perfect score today! Good job, thank you! One thing they changed (may be state to state), but we didn't have to do a completely figure 8 in the U-turn box for the exam (exercises we did). We just needed to do one U-turn to the left and come to a stop with front tire in a white box. Doesn't matter, I could have done the figure 8 if they wanted; your advice helped calm my nerves!
I have no idea if my test will have a figure 8 or just a u-turn. I'm practicing both.
@@mtrotter325 Good idea! Regardless they have you do the full figure 8 during the exercises so you'll be prepared regardless. My best advice is always look to where you want to turn the bike, your body will do the rest. Don't overthink it and you'll be fine! Not being afraid to lean the bike is also a plus.
Nice detailed explanation. Nice for new riders who are terrified of taking the test and can practice techniques before the class.
Took mine in NE. About the same thing. We had 5 riding skills tests though. 1st was a sharp right turn then U-turns. I also got picked to go first because of riding experience. We had new riders as well. 1 failure in the class. Someone who had never been on a bike before. Good video. Shows what you can expect.
I have just done my motorcycle license in Italy. I work in Germany and I know how the test is done here as well. I have to say that this MSF course is really easy..! They test you for super basic skills at max 17mph in a parking lot, with something which looks bit more like a bicycle, after which you are allowed to ride a CB1000R on the streets. Now I understand a bit more why there are so many additional safety and riding classes in the US..!
The concern is that only the msf is mandatory. Im flabbergasted at how easy this is compared to the uk with the cbt, mod1,mod2 in three separate categories
This is a little old but in Oregon you have 5 tests which are basically the same. The only one extra is weaving through a set of cones which can be tricky much more tricky than the stop thing. I have had my endorsement for years but still took the test about 20 years ago when I actually bought my first bike. I have a friend I am working with to get her license so I like to watch these so I can be a better teacher :)
I don't think Oregon uses the MSF program. They now have something called the Team Oregon program. Different exercises, different training manuals.
Same here in WA. There is approx. 10 ft from T start to the first cone of the weave in WA state test. Was intimidating, because during the learning part of the class. we were able to have a longer stretch of riding before entering the cone weave.
Thanks, Great Video, you expanded the test, and now we have a idea what to expect
Glad to come across ur vid! Im taking my msf in central jersey in june (RVCC). Fingers crossed!
Nice video. Calm and informational unlike most moto vloggers. I'm taking the test tomorrow so this is helpful. Sadly it's supposed to rain for both days. So sad
Charter Con thanks for the kind words. Good luck! I hate riding in the rain.
Jelly currently awake at 5:45 AM, here's to hoping the rain lets up
I'm in the middle of a course thru our local Harley Davidson dealership and our day on the range today was spent in the rain. Nice steady Florida rain. So I can definitely understand why you don't like riding in the rain. Lol
How did it go?
I loved my course,my instructor was cool and didn’t give a fuck. I passed my riding/written test.
Nice Job, Well explained. Best beginner test info i've found so far. I'll be taking my test this summer. Thanks
+Bjazzzzzz12 Awesome! You are going to have fun.
I had a bike around 2005 and got out of it. They had to evacuate my office one day back in 2018, and I came home, telling the wife she would ever guess what I did on the way home. Well…it was a used Heritage. Not even with the first bike had I taken a class; thought it would be a good idea now. There was a Returning Rider’s MSF class the next state over. Got caught in a thunderstorm. Arrived wet, having ridden through water over my floorboards on a reclaimed surface mine. I dried waiting for our class to start. Enjoyed it. Used the Heritage for the riding portion. Rode the big bike as well or better than the guys using the little bikes provided. Had a blast. I enjoyed that type of parking lot exercises anyway. Keep telling myself it would be fun to find additional training somewhere.
Jelly you are the best man thank you a lot.
You're welcome!
My wife and I just took this test today in Alabama. It was a two day course. The final skills exam was 5 parts in ours, and even though everyone in our class passed, we were only allowed 16 points total. And I received 5 points on the U-Turn exercise just for putting my foot down once. The instructors were good about giving everyone the best possible chance to pass, but our version wasn't nearly this lenient. But we were still glad to see this video beforehand either way.
Glad to hear everyone did pass. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and to watch the video
6 years later, and I just went through my course this past weekend. Same deal, 5 events, 16 points. Everyone passed, but definitely not lenient as this channel's experience.
I passed the u-turn box part with no points. Was the only rider that did. Still got 15 on the rest, but I was a new rider so I was a bit nervous with some of the other skills. I recommend anyone about to take it to get a learners permit and start riding in parking lots first to familiarize yourself with the clutch breaks and throttle. Makes it a lot easier.
Very informative video. I'm taking my class in June. Not so worried after looking at this . Thanks!
Mark Upshaw thanks for taking the time to comment. Good luck!
Thank you Jelly for the informational video. You helped me so much today in my last MSF class. Your video helped me prepare for the test and I was rocking the box in practice. Slipped up a little in the test, but I thankfully passed. Ride safe!
Sweet! Glad the video helped. Congrats!
Jelly oh and thanks for sharing the kickstand story. Happened to me today and I remembered your vid then immediately looked down.
LOL, to this day the first thing I do when I get on my bike is put up the kickstand. I can start my bike with it down, but I was so embarrassed that I made a habit of doing it.
Thank you for the point explanation. Been an introvert myself im pretty nervous of group classes. Im taking mine in a month Thanks!
Hello fellow introvert
@@dublethetruble4620 hello! I actually made it and have been riding since!
Without a doubt the best UA-cam video of how to take/pass the MSF course I've seen. It was well organized; you actually showed all 4 skill tests; and more importantly, you showed how to pass all 4 -- with the caveat that as long as you don't drop the bike and you can pass at least 1 out of the 4 you're going to pass the course. That in itself helped me relax a lot because I start the course on Wednesday (2 days from now), finish it on Sunday, and I've been freaking out a little after watching a lot of the other videos. So many many thanks.
(I actually went out today to the test site (a local community college) to check out the layout of the school/classrooms, and also the test area. Of particular attention was "the box". It appears to be 20 feet wide, so since I don't have my scooter yet I measured out 20' on my street and did figure 8's on my sport hybrid bicycle. It was certainly do-able on my bike, and I hope as long as I go slow enough and go as wide as I can at the start of each turn of the figure 8 without going over the line that I should be okay. The rest of the course was a little hard to figure out but your video showed it very well.)
Thank you so much for your comments! Sounds like you are well prepared and believe me, once you are there doing it you will realize that it is a lot easier than it seems. I don't know where you are taking it but keep in mind your class may do some things differently as far as points and things, but you will have no problems passing. They really want you to pass and you should go into it without being nervous. You will do great! Good luck!
You're welcome.
I'm taking my test in Maryland. For now I'm only interested in riding a scooter (2015 Yamaha Smax; purchased already but waiting at the dealer until I get my certification) but they make you take the full motorcycle course. At first I was ticked off because you don't have to shift gears on a scooter. But the more I thought about it the more I liked the idea of at least learning how to shift a motorcycle because that opens up my options down the road in case I want to get a 300cc cycle (Honda CBR 300 ABS is looking real appealing to me).
And I know that they never require you to get the bike out of 2nd gear so 15-20 mph tops would seem to be about right throughout the whole course. And that's the speed I ride at on my bicycle. So I'm at least somewhat confident I can figure it all out. (And on my bike I'm locked into the clipless pedals and there's no way I can touch flat footed with even one foot on the ground; it's always tippy toe with my right leg at stops. So advantage motorcycle. And I don't have to worry about pedaling -- just twist the throttle.)
The thing that I think might take a while to adjust to is that on a bicycle both levers activate the brakes; there's no clutch on the left lever. So I'm pretty sure at first that I'll be expecting them to both be brakes until I get the hang of the left lever being the clutch and the right foot pedal being the rear brake. But they give you 6 hours the first day and I'm not sure how many hours of practice the 2nd day, so that should be enough to adjust. (Both days are 6 hours each but part of the second day is the testing. And then there's 3 hours on Wednesday and 3 hours on Thursday in the classroom.) I'll post back either way. But rest assured your video is a big help.
I wasn't sure how I was going to adjust to having a foot brake either but like anything else, you get used to it real fast. They spend a lot of time on braking because on the motorcycle the front brake is very strong and you have to be careful not to lock it up. You will get plenty of practice. Can't wait to hear how it goes!
I'm stoked!
Well...I went to the first teaching class last night. No biggie, but of the 24 people in the class at least 18 or more have already ridden motorcycles...some for over 30 years. So when it comes to the riding classes it's definitely not going to be a group of noobie riders, only me and a few others. But I can only focus on what I need to do and learn; I can't worry about anybody else. If they want to take a beginners class with all that experience that's on them.
And they're calling for major thunderstorms on Sunday, the test day. But that can change between now and then.
Very helpful stuff 👍
Thank you. And nice riding!
Thank you for this bro. Really helped me get prepared for tomorrow.
Wish I would have watched this before I took my course..I was so nervous but it wasn't that hard. The Box was kind of weird because I've never ridden before, but the course was fun and pretty easy. Good video
Cooper Anderson thanks!
I passed mine today with a 100 percent completion I was shocked when we got back in the class room and he said I didn't mess up at all because the whole time I was completely scared of the u turn
Wow! Congrats
Thank you for the great insight. Taking MSF course today.
Good Luck!
Thanks for this video! It helped me get over my fears! I was a lil worried ❤
When I took my msf course last year (I was 17 at the time) I was super excited and loved going quick. For one of my test we had to accelerate to I think around 15-20mph and then stop quickly before a given point. My dumbass went about 25 mph then in order to stop in the given distance I had to brake hard. My rear tire locked a bit I slid a bit. Didn't know side or anything kept the bike up fine. Passed with flying colors other than crossing the line by .01 inches on the figure 8 box test and locking my rear. To be fair to me tho I took my msf at a Harley dealership and the bikes there were a pretty decent size. Not some 125cc
Harley dealership gave me an r3 to take my test
I had to ride one of their TINY sportsters and I’m 6’-5”. The instructors apologized to me several times throughout the course because the ergonomics for a guy my size (I’m not fat) were just really bad and made it a lot more difficult being hunched up. I ended up passing but I was sore for a couple of days after. I now ride a cruiser which is soooo much easier. I can even do the box on my 23 year old carb HD softail. It’s kinda fun actually to do that one on your own in an empty parking lot. Practice practice practice. Safe riding!
They did not put you on a ‘tiny sportster’. They put you on a gutless street 500. The last thing they are going to do is put people on a top heavy sportster to learn slow speed maneuvers with. The HD Softail is an easy bike to learn on and ride.
5 failed when i took my course. I had a score of 1
Thank you for the info. You are the best person explaining the dreadful box and the other three tests. Thanks Jelly :-)
:-) Thank you for your comment!
Yes Best explanation, this is what I did yesterday on Suzuki TU250....2 days in TX
Awesome!
Texas is a two day class, 16 1/2 hour total class time over the two days.
When I took mine this passed weekend it was 16 points to fail. Maybe that a texas thing.
@Crazed Monk ... that's also how it is in Texas. You don't have to take the MSF course..
Just took my msf course through OSU today and passed. Was way more nervous than I should of been! Also, my instructor gave my group the answers to our written tests lol it was easy either way. Also, we had 6 skill test instead of four :-|
I had 5 in Texas
Just took my test last weekend and showed my wife this video so she could understand what we had to do. Never been on a motorcycle before and I didn't miss any points on my test. Certainly easy if you can understand the controls and you pay attention
Nathaniel Simmons I thought they did a good job making you feel comfortable no matter what your experience level. Thanks for the comment
will be taking the course soon.. this will be such a big help. awesome vid!
Thanks! Post back and let me know how you did!
not sure about the points system but the tst is exactly the same here in PA. Just completed mine last weekend. this is a very useful video
Rob Lochard Thanks for commenting
Watching this video you put a lot of my fears to rest. Pretty much impossible to fail the test
Glad to hear! Thanks
I'll be taking the PA course in 2 weeks, but have never ridden a motorcycle. Do they give total newbies enough practice time to get the hang of it?
@@packgrog no. not at all. failed , and instructors didnt give any real coaching, just here you go do this, no real correction, no real help. feel like i wasted an entire weekend to this mess, bikes too small for my body, so my feet fold pegs every start, then the instructor is bitching about looking at feet even though the fucking pegs are folded. not a good experience. not sure if i will try to test again, no bike to practice with, just this bullshit class...
Just passed in florida
Great Info! Thanks for posting. Going through the MSF course next week. Nervous, but your video really helps calm the nerves. lol
There is nothing to it. Post back and let me know how it goes. Good luck!
This a great explanation, thank you so much. I am about to take this test tomorrow and I am very nervous but this video gave me some confidence. thanks!!
How did it all work out?
When my sister took the class they said something like one person in 300 fails. There was a chick in her class that failed. I don't know what she did.
i passed the course last week... I'm 18 and it's by FAR the most stressful thing I've ever done
It is but when you start riding on a regular basis you are able to relax and focus on sharpening your skills like counter steering, breaking, slow speed turns and maneuvers and not worrying about the clutch, shifting, and the throttle. I’ve been riding about 18 months now and it gets a lot easier. Just focus, don’t panic, and don’t speed even if your friends do when you are just starting out. Give yourself some time to build your riding skills and you’ll be fine
@@chrisloesch1870 i plan on getting a motorcycle permit and then after a while, doing this course and then getting my license. I hope that gives me the chance to really up my skills
Very helpful thank you, little nervous doing my 3 day course next week
Thanks this was helpful. I have day 2 tomorrow and wanted to see what I was up against for the test. Man you aced that!
Like a boss! lol you will ace it too. Thanks and let me know how it goes!
Is anyone going to mention the guys head at 5:18?
Jakecycle lol. I never noticed. Who knows what was going on there.. Nice catch!
mine can give you 15 points for anticipating the stop in the fast braking, and you fail at 20 points total
Thank you, great instructional video.
Awesome video! Planning on taking the test soon. Subscribed!!!
Thanks! Keep me up to date with your progress
The class I'm planning on taking in the fall is a MSF class, and it is $299. This class is in MA
Paul Brauer Good Luck! Tell me how is goes
+Paul Brauer woah! thats alot im from illinois and i only had to pay 20 bucks for the course ...im also taking the fall class ....and at the end of the class i get to either keep the 20 or donate it! but good luck man :)
SkyWolffy17 That's Crazy! It should be like that everywhere though. It would allow everyone to get to do the course which I think is important.
+Jelly RIGHT! tell me about lol XD
SkyWolffy17
where did u take your course?
The figure 8 box is the stupidest evaluation ever. What difference does it make if you put your foot down or not? What are we testing here? Parade skills? When do you ever need to do this? Never.
Negotiating a decreasing radius turnk from highway speeds would be more pertinent.
sevenrats U turns.
They say too putting your foot down increases your chances of breaking an ankle.
I agree with you though.
Many people have trouble with slow speed stuff, and I believe the majority of accidents happen at pretty low speeds.
To show you have control of the bike at low speeds?
In my country these tests are a lot harder, they have to be done on a heavy bike (~600cc), you can't fail any of them and they have to be done twice, otherwise you won't get a licence. We also have to do a ~45 minute ride on public roads with a trailing instructor in varried conditions to demonstrate we are capable of handling real scenarioes. In addition to that we have 10+ hours of obligatory driving lessons. All of that because they don't want unskilled riders on the road, obviously cause that's not safe for them or anyone else.
Litego what country is this?
Norway. A nasty side effect is that the motorcycle license costs a minimum of 3000 USD.
Litego: Dont forget the obligatory trackday :)
Great video, especially your POV.
Thank you for making this video! Today is my skills test and I was worried until watching this!
Jonathan Katz did you pass it
I did! I got only 1 point off. I stopped too quickly in the box. I really appreciate you putting me at ease!
I'm really curious if there is any young people that attend this course? I'm 19 and nervous about being the only young one lol):
***** well over in NC when i took the class there was a 16 year old taking the class he struggled a little but passed the class
Harvey O. Mercado
damn, that really makes me feel better haha, I actually convinced one of my friends to go with me. Ill be fine I hope haha.
+ludwig lemus You should be fine, I can't say anything yet, but I'm taking the class soon, and I'm 17.
THESKINIMIN1234 haha thanks for the reply I actually passed it last week.
How was it?
And after they are done they have to rely on UA-cam to figure out "How to (counter) steer a motorcycle" and "How to perform an emergency brake on your motorcycle". So here the US are in the stone age compared to most European countries.
Absolutely, I'm amazed that you can wobble around a car park and buy a 200mph motorcycle. Jaw droppingly bad.
Very well done, informative video.
I watched it because a friend of mine was "asked to leave" the MSF course without a refund because he "wasn't getting it" (they failed to teach him).
With 35 years of riding to my credit- everything from a Vespa scooter to a gsxr 1100, to my current Moto Guzzi v11 sport- across multiple countries (some driving on the left)- I don't believe that I could pass the figure 8 or the box. What's more, it seems to serve no purpose other than making riders nervous. The only time one would turn that tight at such low speed would be in a parking lot; In which case, there's no reason whatsoever that you couldn't put your foot down.
I'm so glad I never had to take this course.
Excellent video!
pop a wheelie Hahahahahaha
I take the class here in N.C. next month, looking forward to it.
Thank you kindly for this. It was very informative.
This is an awesome explanation man!! I really appreciate you giving everybody who is a beginning rider a heads up to what it's actually like during the final test. Quick question if you could please answer it when you have a chance. Did you take your test in New Jersey? If so where? Thanks again!
+Mark Venice I did take the test in NJ. South Jersey at the Atlantic County Community College. I found it here: www.jerseyrider.com/ They also hold classes in Mercer County at the community college. Good luck and thanks for watching!
Just finished Day one in NYS. Tomorrow is our skills test. I had trouble with the emergency stop and could not get it right. Thanks to you, I feel confident to pass tomorrow! THANK YOU!
Spend extra time tomorrow on it. You should have time. Thank you for taking the time to let me know how it is going! Good luck tomorrow. You will do great
I passed! I still plan on practicing before jumping onto the road but this class taught me a lot for being a new rider!
Now comes the fun! Go into an empty parking lot and practice slow turns and u turns. Practice starting and stopping. Go over to where you took the course after hours and practice on the course itself. That is a great place after hours to work on things you learned in class.
is the new York one the same as this? I'm going for my permit tomorrow but i wanna know what to expect for the test bc I'm anxious lol. trying to get all the info!
+TheMMObro Not sure about NY. This is a general idea of what to expect but the points and some other things may be a bit different. Good luck!
One of the best MSF course walkthroughs I've seen on UA-cam. Start my 4-day, 2-weekend MSF course starting next weekend here in PA. I bought a bike about 2 months ago so I've been able to do some riding. Looking forward to getting my license. Thanks for the video.
NijaBoiTellEm thank you for taking the time to write. Wow I didn’t know PA was 4 days.
Jelly Yea, PA offers courses ranging from 2 to 4 days. So I have 2 Thursday from 6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m. days and 2 Saturday 8:00 a.m. - 1:00 p.m. days. I'll be looking forward to that last Saturday haha.
Hello new rider here just got my permit few days ago and I’m gonna register for the course is the 4th day the day you take the skills test?
@@channlerregan8222 Yes. You'll go over everything that you need do in order to pass the Skills Test. I think if you do any form of riding prior to taking BRC, you should do fine.
@@muscles662988 should I be concerned that I never ridden a motorcycle well the last time I rode a bicycle was when I was like 9 but with like training wheels idk if that counts
I Just passed the msf course without any riding experience at all!!!! I think everyone should take this class
Great video. Thank you so much for taking the time to help those who are looking to obtain their motorcycle license. This video really gave me more confidence.
Thanks again and ride safely
SK.