Shootout: 2017 Chevy Colorado ZR2 vs Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro

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  • Опубліковано 10 сер 2017
  • If you have dreams of racing in Baja, but lack a race team’s budget, it’s a good time to be in the market for a pickup truck.
    That is thanks to the Chevy Colorado ZR2 and Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro, two midsize off-road focused pickups with a special emphasis on high-speed desert running.
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  • @thetoyotaguy5118
    @thetoyotaguy5118 6 років тому +17

    Without showing any bias to either truck, let me just say I am glad both of these trucks exist. Competition among the manufacturers ALWAYS benefits us as consumers! Thanks to GM & Toyota for producing these trucks!

  • @dubprocesslbc
    @dubprocesslbc 5 років тому +116

    I have a zr2 diesel and I love it. Tacos are awesome too. Just drive what you like no need for all the hateful comments.

    • @gepo6882
      @gepo6882 4 роки тому +1

      dubprocesslbc have a great life sir

    • @airtexaco
      @airtexaco 4 роки тому

      I don’t have the ZR2, or the diesel but I really like my Colorado. Got it at the end of the year and no diesels were to be had. After a year, do you still love your truck?
      ZR2 is nice, but would have loved to have the baby Duramax!

    • @chrishernandez4672
      @chrishernandez4672 4 роки тому

      I love my girlfriend’s truck I help her get it she has the diesel colorado

    • @gopmario
      @gopmario 4 роки тому +1

      I’ve been driving a TRD Off Road for about a month and I love it. But those Colorado’s are pretty dang sweet! I dig the body style.

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 4 роки тому +4

      There is nothing hostile about bringing up legendary Toyota reliability vs miserable chevy record.

  • @danny12threes6
    @danny12threes6 6 років тому +10

    i also wish you would of talked about how low the suspension hangs in the chevy. its lower than the diff wouldnt that be a constant worry

  • @deereman8237
    @deereman8237 6 років тому +16

    I would have to go with the Colorado. Locking diffs always save you off road. We have a Rubicon and go to Colorado yearly rock crawling.

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 3 роки тому +1

      4Runner TRD has a rear diff lock standard. It also has the A-Trac system that is awesome - there are plenty of videos showing it in action.
      But the bottom line is durability, and nobody even comes close to Toyota.

  • @TrustworthyFox37
    @TrustworthyFox37 6 років тому +53

    You compared the wrong trucks, you should have gotten the 3.6L V6 Colorado

  • @Nobody000-6
    @Nobody000-6 7 років тому +241

    I've got an 01 tacoma with over 246,000 miles on it and it runs amazing still.

    • @bob15479
      @bob15479 7 років тому +19

      I have a 2002 with 213k and it's an absolute beast and still worth almost 10k

    • @Nobody000-6
      @Nobody000-6 7 років тому +12

      Mark Brand they hold value that's for sure. My dad actually bought it in 2003 when I was 9 and gave it to me 4 years ago. I could never sell it. Been maintaining it since and I'm sure I'll die before it does.

    • @bob15479
      @bob15479 7 років тому +6

      Yeah I'm on my second taco. Bought a 98 in 04 for $8500 sold it in '13 for $6500. I'm probably about to sell my taco because I just got married and we're trying to put ourselves through college debt free but I'm pretty sure I'll get another one in the future.

    • @bob15479
      @bob15479 7 років тому +2

      I'm really sad though because I like 1st gens and I probably won't own one again. I might buy one just for camping and stuff though. I just think a lot about safety and the 20-25 yr old technology would make me nervous to daily drive after I graduate.

    • @TheKillerMarine
      @TheKillerMarine 7 років тому +21

      I have an 01 Ram with 435,000 miles. Your point?

  • @GenkiDamaSSJ
    @GenkiDamaSSJ 6 років тому +1

    I wonder how much of the steering sharpness difference was the tires? hard to know. As a tacoma owner, the ZR2 would be my truck tomorrow if I were to drop money on one. But I think it might get me into trouble. One thing that concerns me though is how far under the rear axle the bottom strut mount is. Looks very vulnerable. And those struts don't look cheap

  • @RetroManVideos
    @RetroManVideos 5 років тому +23

    Every Tacoma should come with a free Dr Ho's Back Belt because of the horrible seating position

  • @dennispiccioni5532
    @dennispiccioni5532 6 років тому +18

    Both are fine Trucks i own a ZR2, the Tacoma is badass too!

  • @RiderObvious
    @RiderObvious 6 років тому +48

    I'd like to see this revisited with the same cars 10 years from now. I'm guessing the Colorado will have been recycled into a Prius by then, and the Tacoma will still be on the road.

    • @Oink_McJeffery
      @Oink_McJeffery 4 роки тому +4

      aww did this video hurt your feelings?

    • @AjaxNixon
      @AjaxNixon 4 роки тому +3

      Yep, the main reason to get a tacoma. Nothing against the chevy, it just wont last as long

    • @danr3545
      @danr3545 4 роки тому +3

      Basekitball Yeah, just like that eh, rusty frame

    • @AjaxNixon
      @AjaxNixon 4 роки тому

      @@danr3545 free replacement, so non-issue

    • @danr3545
      @danr3545 4 роки тому +2

      Basekitball I’m sure it wasn’t a “non-issue” for all those customers who were without their trucks for all that time.

  • @joreldavis4069
    @joreldavis4069 7 років тому +22

    This is Off-Road.com and we're not deducting points because a vehicle is less capable off road? Ground clearance is huge. The ZR2 and a Subaru have similar ground clearance and that's acceptable?

    • @jessehernandez5043
      @jessehernandez5043 7 років тому +1

      Jorel Davis ground clearance at the diff. Subarus are 4 corner IFS which automatically gives them an edge with ground clearance. Chevy should've went with at least a 32" if not a 33" tire for the ZR2 version. Where the ZR2 thrives is traction not ground clearance for the time being

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 7 років тому +1

      Jesse Hernandez 33's are possible on the ZR2 of a 1" body lift is installed according to GM engineers.

    • @jordanyang3066
      @jordanyang3066 7 років тому

      Jesse Hernandez
      Then why give it a front locker?
      You can't use a front locker on high speed desert running with all those corners. Makes no sense and with all that traction you still need clearance for whoops.
      Clearance is the most important thing when off roading right after suspension and recovery gear.

    • @jessehernandez5043
      @jessehernandez5043 7 років тому

      Jordan Yang because it's design was to be more than just a desert runner.the front locker allows this vehicle to be more capable than a typical 2wd prerunner with a rear locker. For someone like me who doesn't always have a boat launch and has to beach launch. Front and rear lockers made the world of difference. This is the adventure vehicle. If you've ever desert run you would know that ultimate ground clearance isn't what is important, it's wheel travel.

    • @jamesworth4576
      @jamesworth4576 7 років тому

      yes, that extra half, yes, half inch of ground clearance on the trd is going to make all the difference. The Colorado has stock rock slider rails in case that .5 inches makes all the difference. Your argument is pretty weak.

  • @calbee4840
    @calbee4840 6 років тому +1

    Good input Steve. I hope you are tracking cost of ownership. That would be interesting after 5 yrs should you keep both of them that long

  • @joreldavis4069
    @joreldavis4069 7 років тому +11

    Do you need an exhaust brake if you can only pull 5,000 pounds in the Colorado?

    • @SelmerVidz1
      @SelmerVidz1 7 років тому +1

      You certainly don't *need* it. But it also doesn't hurt. It was probably easier for Chevy to leave it in there for the diesel ZR2 than to take it out.

    • @trunks817
      @trunks817 7 років тому +1

      comes standard on all Duramax's. If you get the z71 package instead of the zr2 you can tow closer to 7500 - 8k LBS

    • @mojoriden
      @mojoriden 7 років тому

      per chevy's website z71-7000/ zr2 - 5000

    • @EGGINFOOLS
      @EGGINFOOLS 7 років тому

      mojoriden 7700 lbs for the 2wd diesel

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 7 років тому

      Jorel Davis No you don't need it. It comes with 4-wheel disc brakes standard and a trailer brake controller that actually works, unlike the junk half-defective one Toyota puts in their trucks lately.

  • @calbee4840
    @calbee4840 6 років тому +11

    How many jobs does Toyota create in North America? From factories, parts distributors dealerships etc! I think it's ok that they keep some of their profits! They earned it. No government bailouts for their factories!

    • @shiftmotorsports9803
      @shiftmotorsports9803 3 роки тому

      Well, looks like if Toyota needs a bailout for their factory, they'll have to get it from Mexico 🇲🇽! Thanks Toyota!

  • @jpbrums
    @jpbrums 6 років тому +1

    They should do this review again after 5 and 10 years. See which one is holding up better

  • @scottfprichard
    @scottfprichard 6 років тому +8

    Well you said both Toyota and Chevy missed the mark by not have a more powerful motor like the raptor. Well the raptor is a full size truck and the Tacoma and Colorado are mid size. The power is not necessary with this size truck.

  • @foxxmufasa
    @foxxmufasa 5 років тому +5

    Thought the zr2 had a 2 inch lift from the original

  • @robh8974
    @robh8974 7 років тому +3

    I thought that was a well done review. Thanks for taking the time to do a comparison. I think your review was balanced and informative. I hope you can get your hands on a V6 ZR2 to see how you like the different power train.

  • @XboxOne_IronPatriot8787
    @XboxOne_IronPatriot8787 5 років тому

    I live in New England, USA but what are your thoughts about snow handling?

  • @thefall3551
    @thefall3551 5 років тому

    Tell me where you found a TRD pro in Canada for $42000?

  • @dcam456
    @dcam456 7 років тому +39

    Toyota really needs to do something about the seating position. I think that's the biggest complaint about Tacomas. I'll be curious to see the reliability of the ZR2 over the next couple of years.

    • @ramonconcepcion4642
      @ramonconcepcion4642 7 років тому +10

      I wanted a Tacoma so bad, but I just couldnt feel comfortable in it. I took it for a test drive 3 times! 3! But I just couldnt convince myself into buying it ... so i ended up with a Tundra TRD ... ironically for less price. than a Tacoma TRD manual. Hmmm sometimes the "market" is not rational.

    • @gilvietor1918
      @gilvietor1918 7 років тому +11

      I had the Tacoma, my right hip kept falling asleep. I'm not a huge dude, I'm pretty well fit, 6'1" and it was awful on longer jaunts. I also despised that damn motor, it was fine with the stock tire, I put on some BFG AT's that were just a little bit bigger and boy did that ruin the vehicle. It was awful for fuel economy, terrible at finding gears going fast (where I live the freeway is 75mph), I was going to chase the rabbit with a rear gear after putting on an Icon stage 4. The hip thing progressed worse and worse, to the point I started to get scared.
      Now, one thing about that Tacoma, it was worth damn near what I bought it for, which is something I've only had in a few other vehicles (those were typically insanely discounted, not something Toyota does with Tacomas).
      So far, I love the ZR2 (we have a diesel), it fits on trails, is very stable on the highway, rarely shifts at high speeds, accelerates on par with the Tacoma we had, even to the point my wife thinks the ZR2 is faster. It can go fast off road, and on the highway it is just a joy, not to spongy but not so stiff you think you're in a one ton.
      I don't find myself going, "oh man I wish I had gotten the V6", ever.

    • @jamesflores9456
      @jamesflores9456 7 років тому +2

      I like the seating position though

    • @ramonconcepcion4642
      @ramonconcepcion4642 7 років тому +2

      James Flores how tall are u? Weight? That has a lot to do with it

    • @jamesflores9456
      @jamesflores9456 7 років тому +2

      im 6ft 1in 195 lbs

  • @wipatriot510
    @wipatriot510 6 років тому +4

    With the ZR2 package, GM got it right...while I'm not a fan of the Colorado, I did have an 2000 S10ZR2, and it was a very nice truck...As shown in this review, the ZR2 package is WAY more than just some stickers, it's a well engineered OR package...

  • @julied7411
    @julied7411 5 років тому

    I won’t bee doing off roading but in the future I may get an RV. Which would be best?

  • @emmanuelbecerra5437
    @emmanuelbecerra5437 6 років тому +1

    Leaning towards the Tacoma Trd off road. However, I’m going to wait for the Ranger to come out. I’m hoping for a Raptor version.

  • @R777-RLM
    @R777-RLM 7 років тому +4

    The best part of the Toyota 3.5L V6 engine is the Dual Injection (Multi-Port and Direct Fuel Injection), which should eliminate the carbon build up problem on the intake valves, that plagues Direct Injection engines such as the Colorado's 3.6L V6.

    • @whalman511
      @whalman511 6 років тому

      You must be tech to know that

    • @Trident_Euclid
      @Trident_Euclid 5 років тому

      @@whalman511 He's a scientist

  • @coabsu
    @coabsu 5 років тому +33

    I have a Tacoma TRD off-road. It’s still the same to theTRD pro inside and it doesn’t feel too small inside! You’re just too damn big bro.😂

    • @israellopez3046
      @israellopez3046 5 років тому

      👍👍👍👍

    • @toastedsmiles7568
      @toastedsmiles7568 4 роки тому

      😂😂

    • @JN-mk2fh
      @JN-mk2fh 4 роки тому +3

      Maybe you're just to small? Just sayin'

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 4 роки тому +1

      I'm way smaller than this dude. But I'm 6'2" ,and yes they feel hella cramped, unbearable for a daily driver.

    • @RagingBad
      @RagingBad 4 роки тому

      Terrence Jones "unbearable" STFU

  • @orionw3028
    @orionw3028 6 років тому

    The TRD Pro and Off Road both have a clinometer to display pitch and role.

  • @CarlosAlvarado-wq9of
    @CarlosAlvarado-wq9of 6 років тому

    where are these trails cause I;ve got a '14 4Runner Trail edition that needs these right about now! Great video btw

  • @wk2466
    @wk2466 7 років тому +7

    I think you're comparing apples and oranges and if you buy the ZR2 to tow you're some kind of special

    • @magnacartasamadams8189
      @magnacartasamadams8189 5 років тому +1

      The ZR2 Duramax will out tow the Toyota any day They just gave it that rating because it's higher off the ground Also the front bumper has air dams blocking the radiator you just need to take those out for your transmission to keep cool GM doesn't wanna deal with all of the red tape putting a tow rating like that but they go 8000 pounds easily I just towed a 3500 pound trailer with a 6000 pound truck Only sag a few inches and had plenty of control of course with trailer electric brakes helping and a sway bar

  • @ridingtothehorizon
    @ridingtothehorizon 6 років тому +8

    The towing cap of the ZR2 w/ the diesel is actually 7,000 lbs

  • @Carubines
    @Carubines 7 років тому +1

    if you remove the DEF system for the diesel you also might as well put a tuned exhaust you should squeeze really good power difference dispite the fact that the DEF exhaust is very constructive compare to regular exhaust from factory on older diesels my uncle has the 15 high country 2500 removed the DEF added twin mufflers in one pipe to quiet down the drone and did a super minor comp adjustment he's getting 100 horses more From factory which factory is at 400

  • @wahweegiwahhh4704
    @wahweegiwahhh4704 5 років тому

    What’s better for the Chevy, the 2.8 diesel or the 3.8

  • @luhvpotatoxo
    @luhvpotatoxo 6 років тому +12

    sick of those stupid comment about paying 40000$ for small truck while u can pay the same for a full size. NOT everybody has a grant garage not everybody wants to pay 150$ a tank of gas not everybody want to drive an elehant into a tight parkage. it is like you would laugh at a person with a mini cooper while he could buy a big ass truck instead.

    • @kayakuprising5914
      @kayakuprising5914 6 років тому +1

      Any garage in America will fit a fullsize truck. smh

  • @JosephSmith72
    @JosephSmith72 7 років тому +51

    I traded my 4runner TRD PRO for the ZR2. Love this machine!!!! I opted for the gas version, I don't need a diesel. Loved my 4runner with no complaints but I was in need of a mid-sized truck. The Taco was way to uncomfortable for me, I felt like I was sitting on the floor and I just couldn't get an over all comfortable feel for the Taco, shame cause I do love Toyota products but if I don't love it why should I buy it? I need to enjoy my product and at the end of the day have some decent resale value when it comes time to trade or sale. This is my 1st Chevy and I LOVE this truck! Also at 14:31 he says it perfectly. "If your looking for a mid-size truck that is livable every single day and then on the weekends also delivers your Baja Dreams ." Perfectly said man.

    • @zzanatos2001
      @zzanatos2001 6 років тому +4

      I'm still driving my 2003 4Runner Sport with the 4.7-liter V8, but I'm starting to shop around for something newer. I wish Toyota would make their trucks and SUVs a little more comfortable and luxurious with more power and better technology, but I guess they don't want to compete against themselves (Lexus). I'm waiting to see what the new Ford Ranger has to offer before I make a decision. I've seen some photos of late model "Ranger Raptors" that seem pretty appealing.

    • @genxer711
      @genxer711 6 років тому

      Joseph Smith Sure

    • @rocketj7449
      @rocketj7449 6 років тому +10

      If you're looking for good resale value, Toyota would have been the better choice. Chevy products drop like a rock.

    • @sammigrunow1972
      @sammigrunow1972 6 років тому +2

      Joseph Smith glad you love it! I have a z71 Colorado and it's perfect for me.

    • @JosephSmith72
      @JosephSmith72 6 років тому +1

      No doubt you are right about that. I did look like I said but man this Chevy just did it for me big time. 5 months later and I still LOVE it like the day I bought it...actually even better!

  • @theodoreraz5055
    @theodoreraz5055 6 років тому +1

    Which one is faster

  • @xUdieToox
    @xUdieToox 4 роки тому

    To be fair, in most cases you really only need a rear locking diff to get you out of most jams. That being said, it’s nice that the zr2 has both. If you offroad a lot, there will be a chance you will need both to get unstuck

  • @ChadMc74
    @ChadMc74 7 років тому +317

    Chevy left a box of donuts under the seat

    • @infidel9810
      @infidel9810 6 років тому +16

      Chad M fat guy can’t be comfortable on the Tacoma’s seats.... I wonder why!?!?

    • @sichenghao3747
      @sichenghao3747 6 років тому +2

      Chad M lol

    • @pcsteurn916
      @pcsteurn916 6 років тому

      Hehe

    • @spunbearing65
      @spunbearing65 5 років тому +2

      Buuuuuuuurrrrrrpppppppp!!!!!!!!

    • @antonioaviles416
      @antonioaviles416 5 років тому

      Chad are you flirting with the big guy? chubby chaser.

  • @chapoher1
    @chapoher1 7 років тому +219

    wait a minute.... you want to go off roading and feel a smooth ride?

    • @sschraufnagel7376
      @sschraufnagel7376 7 років тому +3

      Chapo Guzman LOL! Good one.

    • @CasperRc81
      @CasperRc81 7 років тому +3

      No shit I'm tired of these pansy FB "SO CALLED OFF ROAD ROAD BASTARDS" complaining about in convenience. FUCK are you kidding me off roading
      Is a sport through and throughout. So unless they make vagina text trolls off roader's then shit lets communism it all!!!

    • @huntguy3831
      @huntguy3831 6 років тому +23

      eric rush If you're racing off road you need a suspension that will soak up the bumps so you can keep control at high speeds. Off roading isn't just mudding bud

    • @SuzukiKid400
      @SuzukiKid400 6 років тому +13

      A smooth ride means the tires are constantly in contact with the ground as the springs and dampeners are pushing down onto the ground all the time, and they make the right adjustments even as new bumps appear and fall away. This is pretty much the most important part of a high speed offroad vehicle and the result is a smooth ride.

    • @bradleyh.gamesandaquatics9037
      @bradleyh.gamesandaquatics9037 6 років тому +6

      What is this guy smoking you can even feel rocks in trophy trucks

  • @user-nm6uo5mk9s
    @user-nm6uo5mk9s 6 років тому

    Are the transmissions better now in the Chevrolet's?

  • @maybrook1
    @maybrook1 6 років тому

    Why didn't you go with the Tacoma TRD Off Road, which was specifically designed for this?

    • @REXS0L
      @REXS0L 5 років тому

      The Off-Road gives you the TRD-tuned off-road suspension with Bilstein shocks, while the Pro gives you the TRD-tuned off-road suspension with 2.5-inch FOX Internal Bypass coil-overs and rear remote reservoir shocks, the TRD Pro is going to have more versatility and capability when it comes to your off-road performance. The Approach/Departure/Breakover in degrees for the Off-Road is 32.5/23.9/25 while the TRD Pro gives you 35/23.9/36, the TRD Pro gives you improved off-road abilities, and at the same time, doesn’t sacrifice any of the normal driving performance and capabilities. The TRD Off-Road is a great platform if you intend to install aftermarket suspension, lift-kit, bumpers, tires... But out of the gate, the TRD Pro is better all around.

  • @Yogangster1995
    @Yogangster1995 7 років тому +3

    It would have been nice to see the 3.6L V6 in the Colorado instead of the duramax.

  • @roberthillsjr.3729
    @roberthillsjr.3729 6 років тому +8

    He is a a Chevy guy from the very start. Listen him.

    • @xsirfifix7922
      @xsirfifix7922 2 роки тому

      compliments both trucks and gives what he doesn't like about both trucks. how did you go with he is a chevy guy?

  • @gersonpilotzi7503
    @gersonpilotzi7503 6 років тому

    Which one will last longer??? Right

  • @scottsmith2971
    @scottsmith2971 5 років тому

    The infotainment system and comfortable seats trump approach angle, towing, steering feel and reliability in an off-road test. The sport sure has changed in the last few years.

  • @changes165
    @changes165 7 років тому +3

    They'll have to get an Alignment for the Colorado after this episode.

  • @DARKHORSE262
    @DARKHORSE262 6 років тому +102

    When was the last time you saw a Chevy on an African safari...just saying

    • @JohnBrowningsGhost
      @JohnBrowningsGhost 6 років тому +15

      The exact same time a tacoma was on one. Which is never. Every one else in the world gets the Helix, not the tacoma.

    • @TheGamerXL
      @TheGamerXL 5 років тому +3

      He said Chevy as the brand not the model, Toyota's are used on African safaris all the time Land Cruisers mainly but *NO* Chevys at all. :/

    • @commonsense7787
      @commonsense7787 5 років тому +3

      Isuzu D-max..... all the time. Isuzu d-max is more like the colorado than the tacoma is like the hilux.

    • @brianm6765
      @brianm6765 5 років тому +7

      All they can afford is shit 😀

    • @Trident_Euclid
      @Trident_Euclid 5 років тому +5

      @@TheGamerXL Because chevy don't sell in Africa?

  • @chrislour8938
    @chrislour8938 5 років тому

    How did you fit in these trucks?

  • @scubasteve29388
    @scubasteve29388 5 років тому

    This has probably been asked somewhere, but How tall are you and what do you weigh? This is important as a bigger guy.

  • @smokinblkstacks
    @smokinblkstacks 6 років тому +17

    The Chevy looks like a ugly older avalanche. The Tacoma will live way longer Toyota has always been know for that. Love my 17 tacoma!!!

    • @genxer711
      @genxer711 6 років тому +1

      Yep, the ZR2 looks like a shrunken Avalanche. No creativity, no imagination from Chevy

    • @splashout-py8wh
      @splashout-py8wh 6 років тому +1

      Love mine too! Best in its class

    • @darkspark5770
      @darkspark5770 6 років тому

      I love my 2017 tacoma! I live in the sticks and it beats anything off road. I never get stuck and can haul way more than what is advertised.

    • @andog6092
      @andog6092 5 років тому

      In Chevy's defense I think the only thing that could look uglier than the Avalanche is the original Honda Ridgeline.

  • @rockthesix1679
    @rockthesix1679 5 років тому +5

    Gee, more NEW tech from Chevy, Cant imagine what WILL go wrong.

  • @lxmedia3911
    @lxmedia3911 7 років тому

    Okay truck guys/gals.
    If you don't plan on selling your truck; just use it until the end of its life cycle. Taking into consideration for towing a small enclosed 5x8 cargo trailer.
    Which one has the most advantage-Colorado or Tacoma?

  • @64maxpower
    @64maxpower 7 років тому

    You didn't take into consideration what truck is going to be going to the shop to be repaired and which one will still be running in 300,000 miles

  • @MisakiLeasim
    @MisakiLeasim 7 років тому +6

    Comparing these two V6 mid sized trucks to a Raptors' V8 engine lol. Of course the Raptor is going to be and feel faster. Tacoma for me.

  • @PatrickRich
    @PatrickRich 7 років тому +5

    I feel like you were very strategic in omitting details like the fact that the Tacoma has a rear locker (only mentioning it in passing) and the fact that the ZR2 starts cheaper because the TRD is only offered as a quad cab, where the ZR2 is offered in an extended cab. If you compare apples to apples the ZR2 starts at $42,620

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 7 років тому +1

      Patrick Rich The difference in price is minimal. Who cares?

    • @EGGINFOOLS
      @EGGINFOOLS 7 років тому +5

      That would be a hit against the Toyota. It's their fault they don't offer any other configuration. The 4 door zr2 has almost 3 more inches of leg room in the back too.

    • @CasperRc81
      @CasperRc81 7 років тому +1

      +EGGINFOOLS exactly who are they selling to... and average of 4.9-5-6' people or 5-9-6-4' people ITS THE UNITED STATES AND WE ARE LARGER SO WHEN YOU ARE IN CUSTOMER SERVICE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY ACCOMMODATE YOUR BUYER Jesus!

    • @EGGINFOOLS
      @EGGINFOOLS 7 років тому

      eric rush which is why my point stands. More room in the chevy

  • @MDHenry4
    @MDHenry4 6 років тому +2

    Great review thanks

  • @jeremyb456
    @jeremyb456 7 років тому

    Yes your right but I have seen that GM has had problems with transmission. The new 3.5 Toyota Tacoma is new so going to take a while to work out the bugs.

  • @wyleeelpuppo4868
    @wyleeelpuppo4868 6 років тому +6

    Does this guy work directly for Chevy?

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 3 роки тому

      If that can be called "work"...

  • @johnsimmons9731
    @johnsimmons9731 6 років тому +5

    Great job General Motors

  • @samuelalzate8573
    @samuelalzate8573 7 років тому

    From an unbiased point of view how reliable is the Colorado compared to the tacoma?

  • @scotw67
    @scotw67 3 роки тому

    You said you tested the trucks in 2wd with the diffs locked. The Tacoma’s diff can only be used in 4LO, not 2HI and not 4HI.

  • @robhuddleston6853
    @robhuddleston6853 5 років тому +7

    What if both trucks were Toyotas & equally reliable, which one would you pick? I'd pick the ZR2. I think it just looks cooler!

  • @wacky.racoon
    @wacky.racoon 6 років тому +10

    Nice, seems like a good choice, less ground clearance, worse approach angle, and lower tow rating, and more expensive fuel.

    • @kayakuprising5914
      @kayakuprising5914 6 років тому

      .5 inches.... really? smh. Better off-road capability: double lockers, better tires, better shocks, more torque, better user interface.

    • @chrisafp071
      @chrisafp071 6 років тому +3

      My 2016 Colorado was junk.

  • @SlickWillie
    @SlickWillie 5 років тому

    good thorough review. thanks!

  • @MrHuck
    @MrHuck 6 років тому

    Thought for sure Tacoma come out on top. Wonder how the reliability will be between the 2? Don’t really matter since 40 grand more then I want to spend anyways.

  • @ccoddington
    @ccoddington 7 років тому +8

    lol, the Raptor is in an entirely different class! That's like saying, "bro - the Toyota Camry and Chevy Malibu are missing the power of the BMW M5, they should have taken a page from BMW."

    • @magnacartasamadams8189
      @magnacartasamadams8189 5 років тому +1

      Hey guess what a ZR2 just beat the record on a Baja course Including every raptor that ran it Also you cannot go where one of these could because they're smaller the frame is tougher you can't jump them as hard Believe me a collision frame expert looked at both of them the ZR2 is built a lot better for jumping Also I'm going to get the twin turbo kit for the diesel and I will be able to keep up with any raptor on the straightaway And I only spent 37K brand new midnight addition I could almost buy 2 for one raptor

  • @herpderp1662
    @herpderp1662 5 років тому +26

    Heres the difference. In 5 years the TRD pro will drop 50 cents from MSRP in resale value. The ZR2 will be WORTH 50 cents resale value.

    • @israellopez3046
      @israellopez3046 5 років тому +2

      You are right buddy ......I love my taco

    • @jrladislao3093
      @jrladislao3093 4 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @k.tucker2011
      @k.tucker2011 4 роки тому +2

      Listen I know how much you Toyota guys like to think that but truth is this truck is all new so it will take a while to see if this particular truck and design can survive the test of time.

    • @herpderp1662
      @herpderp1662 4 роки тому +1

      @@k.tucker2011 All new since 2016 yes. So the exact same arguement your attempting to defend the chevy with are LITERALLY identical for the chevy as well. So........ back at you? But let me do a quick mic drop, what's the number 1 midsize truck for pretty much the last decade? tacoma. What vehicle has gotten the highest resale value for about the same amount of time? Tacoma. The numbers speak for themselves, fan or not.

    • @k.tucker2011
      @k.tucker2011 4 роки тому

      @@herpderp1662 I actually wasn't defending or bashing anything just speaking the truth about reputation and reliability. The facts are that Chevy and Toyota make pretty good vehicles. The engines in GM are beyond great and Toyotas just make you feel good knowing your money was invested well.

  • @defiantmammal4166
    @defiantmammal4166 6 років тому +1

    Y r u comparing the smallest chevy engine option for the zr2 but the largest engine option for the tacoma

  • @curtisryan6911
    @curtisryan6911 5 років тому +2

    I worked as a service advisor for chevy and toyota, several years at both... i drive a Toyota Tacoma..nuff said!

  • @sputnikalgrim
    @sputnikalgrim 6 років тому +86

    It always amuses me when people refuse to accept that GM has taken many steps forward. The Camaro setting laps at the ring, people buying a CTS V over an M3, now here in the comments people still hating on a Chevy for out shining a Toyota. GM is on the rise people, deal with it

    • @kayakuprising5914
      @kayakuprising5914 6 років тому +14

      Umm, did you not watch the video? Torque, offroad capability (double lockers), better tires, better suspension, better seating, better gui, more rear leg room.

    • @chrisafp071
      @chrisafp071 6 років тому +2

      sputnikalgrim If amuses you? More like it annoys you bwahahaha

    • @LouisVictor767
      @LouisVictor767 6 років тому +4

      Sputnikalgrim It always amazes me that people like you ignore the elephant in the room. Most of us aren’t debating just ride quality or comfort, etc. We are talking about the poor quality of GM products. Sure it might be fun to drive but who wants to always be having it repaired?

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 6 років тому +1

      I don't have experience with the latest gm stuff but I will never forget garbage it was making up to 15 years ago when I was in the automotive inspections business. I do not beleive for a second that American Corp culture has changed.

    • @andog6092
      @andog6092 5 років тому

      Gm is part of the problem the z71 and zr2 colorado are the exception. I just bought a trd off road, and was looking at the z71 Silverado, it was the most pussyfied truck I have ever been in. The z71 has the same ground clearance ad the standard Silverado. Now even know it's gone on the 2019 that front bumper hangs so low not only does it look bad I would end up ripping that piece off. I means it's a nice well crafted truck and still not as bad as the new auto start stop f150. Toyota is like an old dog it takes a beating and comes back for more.

  • @Atlasinthemaking
    @Atlasinthemaking 7 років тому +3

    You compared a ford raptor to a Toyota Tacoma...really!?! You compared a full sized truck...it's apples and oranges. It's like driving a Honda SI and saying o darn if only it had the power of a Camaro or Ford Mustang.

  • @user-hw1cr5uq4z
    @user-hw1cr5uq4z 5 років тому +1

    Had a Chevy S-10 with the ZR-2 package. On paper it looked liked a beast and when it was running it was. Problem was something was always going wrong and it was in the shop so often I was on a first name basis with the service writer. My conscience would not let me sell it to someone else in a private sale. Traded for a Toyota which performs just as well and other than routine maintaince never goes to the shop.

  • @efibendor1
    @efibendor1 7 років тому

    Why didn't you compare the departure angle ?

  • @richardnoa598
    @richardnoa598 5 років тому +3

    The guy is talking about “sitting comfortable and real life living”. Boy youre the only 350 pound dude in a compact truck lol

  • @Kornholeeoo
    @Kornholeeoo 7 років тому +25

    This video is just a sales pitch for the Chevy. I do like that the Chevy has a front locking diff, but that would not sway me to buy it over a Tacoma with just that. We'll have to see how these trucks are holding up after 10 years.

    • @jordanyang3066
      @jordanyang3066 7 років тому +1

      Kornholeeoo
      They threw a front locker on a truck with 8.9" of clearance and racing shocks.
      I don't think Chevy knows what a front locker is used for.

    • @SuzukiKid400
      @SuzukiKid400 6 років тому +1

      Why do you say that? He explained in the review why he likes the Chevy better, so what's your reasoning?

    • @USisTHEbest121
      @USisTHEbest121 6 років тому

      They should both be holding up fine. Especially if these motherfuckers cost 40k.

    • @juniortrenchfield4135
      @juniortrenchfield4135 6 років тому

      Kornholeeoo 1

    • @kayakuprising5914
      @kayakuprising5914 6 років тому

      Who cares about 10 yrs, when the Toy is going to be getting stuck without a front locker half the time.

  • @sparky2171
    @sparky2171 5 років тому +1

    The fact that there are like a hundred UA-cam videos complete with heated discussions in the comments comparing a freaking Chevy Colorado... to the TRD Pro Taco is nothing short of amazing for Chevy. I've owned two TRD Off Road Tacomas (2001 and 2009). Last year my wife and I decided to treat ourselves to new vehicles, She got a 2018 TRD Pro 4Runner and while I did test drove the TRD-Pro Taco, (Puts on Nomex, EOD-Bomb suit and wraps himself in aluminum foil) I came home with the Colorado ZR2 Diesel and love it.

  • @Jdmlsturbo
    @Jdmlsturbo 6 років тому

    Isn’t a Diesel better for the torque?
    I woulda had the ECT on in the Taco

  • @jefffoster8416
    @jefffoster8416 6 років тому +45

    The Toyota will just be barely broke in when the chevy is going in for its first or second
    problem

    • @vilneas6358
      @vilneas6358 4 роки тому +12

      Except when they break in half from rusting through the frame rails

    • @wagsbro2044
      @wagsbro2044 4 роки тому

      @@vilneas6358 thats the 2nd gen

    • @fulfilledlife9211
      @fulfilledlife9211 4 роки тому +1

      @@wagsbro2044 Go to google images and see how much the 2nd generation rust. It's almost unbelievable how much they rust in as low as 2 years.

    • @robbroche2303
      @robbroche2303 4 роки тому +1

      @@fulfilledlife9211 they replaced the entire frames for free.... for everyone... but yeah would've been spooky then.

    • @tommyboy5924
      @tommyboy5924 4 роки тому

      @@vilneas6358 umm, nope

  • @yahya.muhammad.khan1
    @yahya.muhammad.khan1 6 років тому +4

    It's basically Japanese engineering vs American engineering!

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 3 роки тому +1

      It's deeper than that - it's Japanese corporate philosophy vs American corporate cornercutting one.

  • @Cgny
    @Cgny 6 років тому

    I agree w him on the locking diffs over crawl control. I own a 16 TRD Off-raod Tacoma. Love the truck but the 2 times i really needed the crawl control which happened to be in the snow the crawl control was garbage. I've owned the truck for 2 years and never used the crawl control other than those 2 times i needed it and it let me down. Other than that I'm very happy with the truck. I've done sme moderate off-roading with it bone stock from the factory and its done well

  • @TOden4
    @TOden4 6 років тому

    Ok? How are you doing a comparison while still driving the first truck without reviewing the second shouldn't that be saved for the end of the video?

  • @gingersnap2121
    @gingersnap2121 5 років тому +4

    Haha somebody's sponsored by Chevy

  • @brianmurray2400
    @brianmurray2400 6 років тому +13

    so the chevy tells you all the details of how you are stuck lol 4:55

    • @gepo6882
      @gepo6882 4 роки тому +1

      Brian Murray pretty sick tho

  • @select20
    @select20 6 років тому +2

    I feel like I'm sitting in the truck, more of a sports car type feel...... I'm looking through the top of the windshield and sitting too high....

  • @youflatscreentube
    @youflatscreentube 6 років тому

    Friend of mine is a professional driver and an ardent Ford guy. He has never owned a Toyota. However, he was hired to drive TRD Pro's for a special event for a weekend. He said that none of them had a problem even though they rode them very hard, continuously, all day long. He was "surprised you could take anything off the lot and drive it that hard without a problem."

  • @Olph1
    @Olph1 7 років тому +21

    I always hear great stuff about new American cars, then they hit the road and fall to pieces. I'm an American and I love Toyota vehicles, especially 4Runner and LC. The Chevy seems cool but I would not spend my money on it. And almost $50k...no thanks. Big boy needs a Tundra or Silverado.

    • @juanalbino4527
      @juanalbino4527 5 років тому +1

      Zachary basically it’s an Isuzu D max

    • @jeremyfufushnick2965
      @jeremyfufushnick2965 4 роки тому

      I smell fanboy

    • @docholliday6296
      @docholliday6296 4 роки тому +2

      @@jeremyfufushnick2965 I know you ain't talkin to me, but hell why not be a fanboy? Do you like something in your life better than something else that is suppose to do the same thing? I mean anything? Do you know for a fact that something in your life works alot better than that of what your friend may have?...(no specific item). Yes you do because everyone has something like that. no matter the item. Toyota Trucks and SUV's have proven themselves time and time again...Am i a fan boy? Hell yeah.... but only because I have been on both sides. Not because i tried one and have buyers remorse, and am now trying to justify it. Facts dude.. Fuck GM.

    • @kingbutters2721
      @kingbutters2721 4 роки тому +1

      U can buy a Chevy used for 5 k lol

  • @saltii2
    @saltii2 7 років тому +139

    Let's be honest, we all know that the Toyota is bulletproof, all their cars go 300,000 easy with just regular maintenance. Also, this is off-road.com if we were looking for a comfort car, you wouldn't be looking at an offroad truck

    • @WilliamStewart1
      @WilliamStewart1 7 років тому +12

      Jordan Alonso Not true anymore, look at the reliability ratings on the new Tacoma, seems to be a ton of issues with them.

    • @saltii2
      @saltii2 7 років тому +5

      William Stewart only the base model (4 cylinders) and the reason for that is basically it is too small and engine and can't quite support the trucks weight. Unless you looked at a different article, in that case I'll have to do some more research.

    • @natehowell793
      @natehowell793 7 років тому +1

      Jordan Alonso exactly all our toyota have a 150000 plus with no promblems

    • @CasperRc81
      @CasperRc81 7 років тому +7

      Ha I've had plenty of chevys rolling 300k and sold them to respectable owners!!!

    • @MegaCityOne
      @MegaCityOne 7 років тому

      But are you realy going to keep that truck for 300k miles lol. It takes almost 20 years just to make it to 150k.

  • @bradydavis6125
    @bradydavis6125 6 років тому

    The trd offroad version has front and rear locking differentials

  • @xxnf99987
    @xxnf99987 5 років тому

    My boy was hooning it on the trail haha I love it

  • @zerovandez
    @zerovandez 5 років тому +6

    I love my imports and their reliability. But GM has been improving very nicely. Heck, I have an 02 Trailblazer LTZ and wont give it up. If I was ever given a shot at either I would definitely go for the ZR2.
    The bros need to really venture out of their brocoma’s. Time to put on big boy pants.

    • @nofyfb123
      @nofyfb123 3 роки тому

      I seriously doubt American corporate "philosophy" has changed over the last 15 years since I left the field. Just look at all fups from ford and the rest, numerous lawsuits... I've seen so many ridiculous screw-ups from detroit that I would NEVER come close any of their masterpieces.

  • @bradleyh.gamesandaquatics9037
    @bradleyh.gamesandaquatics9037 6 років тому +3

    Tacoma is a hunting truck because it's compact and capable plus it looks good

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 3 роки тому

    Ok I’m on my second Colorado and could not be happier. The first was a 2016, Ext Cab,4x4, V6, we used for 4 years and 6 months, putting 56,000 miles on it, with at least 20,000 of that towing a 22’,4,000 lbs travel trailer. Flawlessly on the flats an Smokey Mountains, Green Mountans, Adirondack Mountains, as far North as Bar Harbor ME, and South as Key West FL. But after we both retired from mass to Florida and needed only one vehicle, we traded the Ext Cab in on a Crew Cab, we wanted a new Gladiator, but I did not like the price ,steering, ride and handling, especially compared with the Colorado, or power. I tested a Ranger FX4 an loved the power an trans, but not the ride or brakes and fit&finish. So we ended up with a 2019 Colorado Crew Cab 4x4, V6, W/T that’s loaded with everything I need an wanted. If I were to buy for off road? I’d get the V6, with the Bison bumpers and skid plates! I was able to get the skid plates from the dealer on mine and removed the dam dam. But now we tow a new 2020 Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS! That weighs just about 4,700 empty, 5,400 lbs ready to go with empty gray an black tanks, with 1/3 fresh water tank, just for flushing if there are no hook ups only. The Colorado does a great job! Good luck have fun and stay safe and healthy!

  • @justinmanship5431
    @justinmanship5431 6 років тому

    Not biased but also own a '17 Tacoma TRD Off Road. I drove both when looking and the Chevy feels like you are driving a car. Maybe that's a positive for some people but I wanted my truck to feel like a truck. Also the seating position in the Colorado isn't great either and rear seat leg room felt worse. My biggest complaint on the Taco is how slow the steering rack is. It's a small truck not a semi, why am I going hand over hand to back out of a parking space?

  • @static2430
    @static2430 7 років тому +5

    This was a pretty good review, but the deal-breaker for me when getting a new truck was the manual option. Since the chevy doesn't offer it (and also because it's a chevy)... I didn't even consider it.

  • @jdouglas7516
    @jdouglas7516 6 років тому +5

    The zr2 has a front locking diff and way more suspension travel. It's not even a close call the locking front diff is huge!! With more engine options and way better tech inside any true 4x4 lover knows the advantage of locking diffs

    • @andog6092
      @andog6092 5 років тому

      Yeah well someday, when I get stuck in the mud in my Tacoma, because it hasn't happened yet I put it in crawl mode and it drives out for me.

    • @peterf.229
      @peterf.229 5 років тому

      lol I haven't had to use my rear difs on my Taco that is 2wd very often and when I did well haha

  • @jtorr690
    @jtorr690 7 років тому

    VERY NICE REVIEW , NICE COMPARISON AND HONESTY.

  • @ijimmythekid6918
    @ijimmythekid6918 6 років тому

    I see an error at 0:56. The Chevy's tow rating with the diesel is much higher than 5,000 pounds. IIrc, it's more like 7,800 pounds.

  • @johnny-bracer6515
    @johnny-bracer6515 6 років тому +5

    i agree, my own 50 years of experience, being over blessed with money and being able to own several vehicles and any vehicle of my choosing, the drive-train was okay with all the Chevys & Fords I've owned over the decades, but the interior and other components, wow, carpet falling down, handles falling off, rear-view mirrors falling off, window motors going out, multiple rattles developing, upholstery shabby, but all the Toyota products I've owned over the same 50 years, the Toyota drive-trains all held up with no issues with the interior and other components, also no rattles or loose doors that are typical of Chevys and Fords

  • @canadianswampdonkeys
    @canadianswampdonkeys 7 років тому +9

    40,000 + for a midsize 😳

    • @Pube83
      @Pube83 6 років тому

      Canadian Swamp Donkeys
      you gotta be well off, a contractor or an idiot to pay $40k for a truck ($700+ monthly) instead of investing

    • @kayakuprising5914
      @kayakuprising5914 6 років тому

      No shit! I paid $31k for my fullsize Z-71

    • @chrisafp071
      @chrisafp071 6 років тому

      Kayak Uprising The Tacoma will last double the miles of that Chevy shitter.

    • @elchangux
      @elchangux 4 роки тому

      @@chrisafp071 highly doubt it. That only applies to 1 and 2nd gen

  • @rcracer641
    @rcracer641 6 років тому

    Something that needs to be looked at is the diesel in the Colorado will need more maintenance than a gas burner. Timing belt 5 years or 100k

  • @postalpancho
    @postalpancho 6 років тому

    This video reminds me of the WRX vs GTI debate. One has better performance and the other is more composed. It just depends which one of those 2 facets is more important to you.