Will a 100 Shot Blow Up a Stock Engine?
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- We Explain how Nitrous (NOS) works, install it on a car, take it to a Dyno, and talk to an expert about safe ways to run nitrous. Running Nitrous oxide on your car can be dangerous. During the process of learning about nitrous we found it to be difficult to find much info about it. This video should cover everything you need to know before installing nitrous (NOS) on your car.
Links Talked about in this video
Nitrous Express Proton EFI Kit (NX)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Wide Band/Nitrous Pressure Safety Kit (Innovate Motorsport)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
Bottle Warmer and Pressure Regulator (NX)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Fuel Pressure Switch (for Fuel Injection Cars)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01...
Fuel Pressure Switch (for Carb Cars)
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...
Progressive Nitrous Controller
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
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“Those were historically called internals, now they’re externals” 💀
Are we MK5 kids now?
As a result I started vaping.... #vapenation
@@Deutscheautoparts 😂😂😂😂 you guys are 👌🏼
@@Deutscheautoparts guys don't do me like that :(
Not any more. ;)
@@Deutscheautoparts vaping nitrous?
Yes it will; once
Famous last words: “I have a lot of faith in European bottom ends on European engines.” BOOM!
ahahhahahaha
MAKE A JDM VS. EURO T-SHIRT AND THEN GIVE AWAY A SMALL CHUNK OF INTERNALS WITH EACH PURCHASE! LOL
You mean a small chunk of externals :)
This is got to be the funnies video of DAP and Charles
I'm loving the unbridled half-assery of this project, Paul. You and Charles are the Clooney and Pitt of the VAG world. More power to you both...literally. :-)
Knock back the timing 3 degrees. Don't take the fuel from the rail, likely causes a pressure drop and lean condition.
Don't use nitrous on a RR. Tyres can't break loose so puts extra stress on everything.
Awesome video! New engine time!
💯 agreed with you!
Works as well as it did on Hoovies’ fast and furious Prius!!!
Nitrous can be a very safe power adder. It’s when you get inexperienced folks who have never actually tuned ignition and fueling maps with knock sensor and wideband O2 sensors who give it a bad wrap.
I ran a very progressive 100 shot on an AEM infinity stand-alone ECU with knock sensors and wideband O2 on a VQ35 for two years before I sold the car with no issues. Granted I developed the nitrous map to ramp up solenoid PWM with increasing rpm and MAP, with active ignition retard for knock, using larger injectors and dry injection.
Unfortunately we have a strict budget for this drag build otherwise we would have taken better precautions. This bottom end really should have gotten Rods to run nos
Right up until the dyno part I was all set to buy the kit for my gti omg I was not expecting that
Do it and I'll show you how to do it right. Just ask me, I've had nitrous on all my turbo cars.
How hard can it be.
Expert: this is a bad idea.
Paul and Charles: POWER
This car was nice :( I think it deserves another life.
This was awesome! Y’all’s faces when the engine let go…priceless! Loved it when Paul says “probably should have called the expert first, but as formerly mentioned, I make horrible life choices.” Lol.
AWESOME! You guys didn't check what the ACTUAL fuel pressure was with a reliable fuel pressure gauge, did you. I have about 40 years of experience with nitrous and can't emphasize enough that you have to be accurate with what the fuel pressure gauge says to correctly know how big a nitrous jet to use. Also, you weren't usuing a nitrous tune which is boost referenced.... You were supposed to pull out a lot of timing under boost! Andrade was spot on about cylinder pressures too with a turbo on nitrous! The cylinder heat was so much that it closed the ring gap and destroyed the ring lands and in turn, the piston, then the rod. I know this is 2 years old, but GREAT VIDEO!
Hmmm, a VR6 Scirocco might benefit from a nitrous system, just sayin.
There was a really nasty MK2 GTI that ran a 12V VR6 with nitrous and I'm pretty sure it was running 11s, but that was a long, long time ago and my memory is a bit fuzzy. It was a mint-green colored GTI. I want to say that it was spraying a 150 wet shot?
Nice work boys . Very informative, the compounding effects NO2 along side forced induction .The multiplier effect .
As they say less is more. Great R and D and cheap lessons for the viewer.
Keep up the good work.
It's great to see you able to create more content. Especially an explosive episode. Keep up the amazing work and bringing the laughs
This is becoming "The Bad Idea" channel? I never even thought of nitrous on a VW, and I'll probably just enjoy your self-inflicted struggles!
One of the potential video titles was “We installed Nitrous so you don’t have to”
@@Deutscheautoparts underrated comment
“Amateurs don’t use nitrous oxide, you’ll blow yourself to pieces.”
This was so much fun to watch! Thank you both for the video!
Glad you went for it. Amazing numbers on the final pull
The guy on the phone has the right answer. The extra heat expands the rings, shortening the gap. If the gap closes and still more heat is added, the expansion has to go somewhere and will flake off the piston edge upwards. BOOM. Also using a progressive controller so you're only doing max flow at your peak power RPM is beneficial. That 100 shot at 5000 RPM is 40% more stress, but down at 32000 RPM it was 100% more stress.
Today I wached your video and was laughing more than I should, I mean, I,m sorry that you blow you engine but the way you two handled it and your honest suprise when engine parts went "external" is great.. Last couple weeks I'm working really hard to finish up my buissnes in garage so I can go on vacation and I'm tired and depressed, but not today, you made my day thank you for that!!
Awesome video! Thanks for putting it together. I love the comments about how the internals are now externals! :)
I died with the ejecto floor panel🤣😂
We need a nitrous redemption video
That reminded me of the first (and only time) Hoovie hit the nitrous on his Prius. Fantastic
Loved the video guys, cracked me up! You dudes are funny,informative and entertaining
That certainly made my evening, thank you for that!
I just finished to watch both videos and the aftermath of that engine was hilarious, nevertheless you guys are professionals and I'm anxious to see how will end this drag race challenge, best of luck
I dont know how i missed this video but that was some of the best carnage i have ever seen. LOL. Never seen that many part numbers flying around all at once.
Paul, your sense of humor is second to none
Wow that let go quick, that was just an engine self-destruct button.
I was running nitrous and turbo back in the 90s when people said it wasn't possible to do. Everyone said I was crazy, now look most everybody puts nitrous on forced induction. Most vehicles can't handle both in stock form. I was running on a second gen eclipse 4g63 head studs and stage 2 cams. Tuning was done by me cuz nobody wanted to touch a turbo and nitrous car at that time. I put 200k on that car racing it and sold it with the og motor still running like a champ. Now days cars are made of cheap metals and plastic engine parts
Just hit the subscribe button.,😁
Loving this type of content with the detailed explanation.
Engine masters has a great video on NOS. Though I thought the same thing boosted & NOS compounds as jet charts are based on NA and probably closed ring gap.
You were both extremely calm during the unplanned dismantling...
There is a guy that says Make questinable choices, you guys just practice the concept. Awesome episode 👍
Bad choice gang
Ok I was not expecting the entire bottom end to explode. WOW.
That segment was hilarious
I’ve considered running a “zex safe shot” kit. It’s like a dry 30 shot. On my 1.8t 20v. With your boy Ian’s reflect stage 1 tune. 👍🏼.
On the bright side you did make lots of power for a very brief moment. The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..
You guys are legendary!
I have a 12” vw passat 2.5 With 50 shoot wet , works great.. all internals stock 90k miles originals( no tune )
We decided to do it just out of fun and it works very well .. of course we need to tune it, and if in the future I want to put more nitro to prepare the engine internally
Man…really wanted to see that GLI race. Especially with the F&F graphics on it. When I watched Charles’ video earlier this morning, all I kept hearing in my head was Han Solo saying, “I’ve got a bad feeling about this.”
Fun to watch, though. Not sure I’ve ever witnessed such rapid destruction of an engine.
This video deserves more views
Aww, poor TFSI engine. Having owned 1 and worked on 2 of them, I know they were great (despite their flaws), but they haven't aged well. I would have been reluctant to try to go too much past 300 whp on a TFSI with that many miles on it.
..."should have talked to the expert first"... Measure once, cut twice? 🙃
It's always a good time seeing you and Charles work together on a project.
Additional benefit of Nitrous that you didn't mention. Much cooler intake charge, allowing additional a/f mixture
Ian was right! Always trust the tuner!
I actually put a ZeX kit in my 09 Scion TC. I use a .018 nozzle . I make 250 Dyno'd. I'm happy with it.
Never purge into the engine, unless it's at 4k rpm. Keep it floored when you hit it .Don't hit until 3800rpm. Don't let it touch red line, and you'll be fine. Stay under 100shot for stock internals. And don't huff this crap, seems like that needs to be said these days. Sulfer Dioxide is deadly.
And again, don't purge a motor, that's not running.
Such a good video!
Guys this was hilarious!! :D For entertainment value alone you've already won.
I just assumed the rods gave out from the sudden onset of torque. Looks like a large section of a rod beam shot out of the engine when it blew. lol. But what John Andrade said totally makes sense. I think I'm anticipating the complete teardown and forensic analysis of the engine as much as I am the drag race.
My guess is rod as well
If the rod broke then why is the piston broken in half also or did they break at the same time?
Famous last words "I have a lot of faith in bottom end of European engines"
Love this video
I loved this you guys are awesome 🤣🤣🤣
The slapping bit got me 🤣
Heartbreaking stuff, sorry to see all your hard work grenade itself.
You guys gotta win!
Back in the Mid 80's I put Nitro in my VW 412. For 3 days it was badass. 3 Days. Then it spontaneously disassembled abruptly. LOL.
That black liquid on the floor is tears of joy that it gets a new engine. 😂
Well... nozle is fitted perfectly. Even too good :D
beautiful man but I think you should have forged everything even the crankshaft and a strong clutch first
Big 5humbs up to the fire extinguisher
Solid gains in the midrange but fell off up top, totally worth it
What a plot twist. Glad you guys ended up with an S4 though..
Did you monitor AFR during your runs? Stealing all that fuel from your primary system that if you were still on a stock low pressure pump might have been on running out already could definitely have been what started your problems.
15:31 it pissed itself 😂
well, I learned the difference between a wet shot and dry shot today at least. I don't expect anyone was actually surprised at the outcome of this, I assume y'all have a built motor you were planning to drop in there already?
God the comments section on this series is nothing but gold. With that said, would love to see you guys try it the not-half-assed way
Was this motor rebuild?
If no
, then you found out never hopp up a engine that is not fresh I just started watching your vids good content.
Reminds me of when Tyler hoover injected nitrous into a hybrid prius and sent a piston into orbit
What a video to wake up to.
Paul and charles collabs are truly elite
Really? Can I jump into this contest, JDM vs Euro vs American Sport Compact? I got a Cobalt SS that will whoop both your butts.
I’m planning to buy either a used low mileage mk7.5 GTI or a used R (2018+ with no more than 50000km) on it and I’m in Canada.
I have a 2018 GTI stage 3 is38 overseas and never had a problem with it.
How is the reliability of North American R’s? What usually breaks on them? and if they do break, is it cheap to fix or no.
The fastest oil change I've ever seen.
Full send on a 100 shot, wow.
Having fun with explosions, I see! I LOVE IT! Idiots installing NOS! I'M IN!
What happens now with the budget and challenge? I had a good feeling about the mk5 too damn
theyre grabbing a B8 audi with a boosted v6 and dsg quattro, and they got the budget reset. but only 5 days to make the bad trans'd audi run
Check out Charles video he covered that there. ua-cam.com/video/CR13rFAD6MM/v-deo.html
Okay I just set up my nitrous kit. I just simply removed my Schrader valve with a remover. Is there any reason why you drilled it through?
"Make a bigger boom" yeah.. thats what ya'll did... poor jetta 🤣🤣🤣🤦♀️
Methanol…. Much safer!!! This video was so great!
So is it game over then? Or will they let you replace the motor?
I like the fact there's an ambulance in the background at the shop.
I can say did you get the jets mixed up or use 87oct. Should have used some race gas for that 100 shot.
I wish to see a BPG engine if it could take the 100 shot. Only fsi with forged piston iirc
Maybe?
Probably?
Terrible life choices.
This series of episodes are so awesome!
And it goes boom
This is wonderful 😂
It made some power so not bad
This was great....
Could i install an nitrous kit in my car, just for the shooting efftect ? My engine couldn't handle acctually ussing the nitrous.
Thanks Johnny Nitrous Dick! The face of both you and Charles when shit hit the fan is classic. Make that into a tshirt!
It wasn't about the rings heating up, it happened to quickly. It was that you overpressurised the cylinders before TDC.
we don’t see mk5 gli’s that often. i own one and when i saw this one with nitrous immediately clicked.
I have seen so many post (before) holes. Never ever seen one blow up ‘live’ lol
A blow engine video always wins a lot of views. So you may not have a car to race or spend another 5K on the S4 but you will win fans anyway.
The old adage. Three things can happen and two of them are bad. It was exciting while it lasted.
All stock? Internals rings etc..?
Ecu tune?