You didn’t see big gains because you didn’t heat the bottle with a torch like they do on Street Outlaws. It’s true because I read it on the internet. 🤣
@@bradleymorris8875 I have no experience with nitrous, I have a 383 BB mostly stock, would a 100 shot buy me an extra second in the quarter? It runs mid 14 now in Colorado
@@maximuswedgie5149 A 100 shot of nitrous should take 1 whole second off of your ET time if everything is right on your car. You need a good 60' foot you need very good tires I don't see why you couldn't.
Excellent episode, but I still might lean toward the one with the 305 Chevy where they kept throwing more & more nitrous at it…something about that “pulling for the underdog” vibe LOL!
Richard old school Master !!!! ✈✈ also love to see Freiburger and Dulcich videos learn alot thanks for your time to give us alot of xp that we need in our builds .i am from saudi arabia i am fllowing you guys from long time since roadkill you are the best..
I love nitrous. Of course in our small European or Japanese engines we cannot put as much power as on your V8"for why I dont live in usa ;-(" but Iove when I sent 100shot in progressiv on my miata. Nitrous is for me , the only supercharger capable of triggering this power whenever you want and the only lag of n2o is the resistance in ohms in the wires. Nos is boss for little budget !
I've always jumped straight to turbo. Nitrous is so rough on engines from my experience. I'm sure if I fooled with it more I may have a different opinion. This really makes me want to give it a try again. I can tell software has really progressed in 25 years.
Agreed But Ironing Nitrous out is a Blast and a skill not many have , even in Nhra Classes Nitrous RULES over Turbos and Blowers But Defiantly needs the 1000% dedication to getting it perfect and consistent, ive done 100 , 200 and 300 hp shots and the torque seems to be BRUTAL vrs Blowers and Turbos and way less affected by atmospheric conditions changes. I think im going to get Serious and Move to 2 or 3 Systems !
@@MrR6guy All turbos are multiplication of atmospheric conditions. They are effected drastically by atmosphere . I have a sbc 383 with a s488 and a compound turbo cummins . Every winter especially in my truck that makes 110 psi I make allot more power use more fuel . In the summer in humid conditions I drop power . You can feel the huge difference. Turbo charging is just and dedicated. You want to feel brutal tq. Come drive a hopped up diesel. Double the tq vs hp. My trucks between 900 and 1000hp and double the tq . In a vechile that is still dailly driven that's insane.
Nitrous is only rough on engines if your ring gap isn't set properly and if you're just using a simple button or RPM trigger to have the hit all at once. With progressive nitrous controllers, you can have an extremely wide power band. They have an older nitrous video where they prove its far more gentle on the engine when a progressive controller controls flow than just using a button. They also prove that setting ring gap for the maximum shot you're going to use is important, because they broke ring lands on a few cylinders. Even better with those progressive controllers, is that not only can you tune the nitrous flow, but also fuel flow so that you maximize the performance gain and not wash your cylinders out. Generally speaking on OEM engines, you can get away with running as much as a 100-125shot before needing to start opening up the ring gap by a few thou.
Test mules are supposed to last, not shatter every test... Why wouldn't you use a billet engine to last a long time... It's made for the abuse..... Literally. This is a year old post but still ridiculous
...as dangerous it is to drop and crack off the valve, I've always been surprised that nitrous bottles don't have the valve cap protection that other 'rocket capable' bottles have like say an O2 bottle (mind it does have more than twice the pressure) has...and it can't be a weight thing as you unscrew those caps when you have secured the bottle and are ready to plumb it...
These are considered Class 2 and 3 hazardous materials..in order to get these bottles they have to be shipped in trucks. FEDERAL Motor carrier laws apply gotta have safety measures in place and inspected or they cant be shipped in large quantities..
Started using not just Nitrous but NOS Brand since Scott and Mike started the little shop across from Cypress College in So Cal in the early 1980's! Have always loved it and always will! That should show my age! LoL 😂 ✌🤙
Hey guys I love the content and I enjoy the enthusiasm in your videos. I have a 4.6 mustang gt 2v I would like to see what you would do with one of those engines just to see if its a dead end or can be viable. We all know the s550s have alot of potential however you never see people do much with with the Romeo v8s or the Windsor of that generation and it was in everything Ford produced in some capacity
need to have a way to maintain bottle pressure throughout the entire run, companies like Nano use nitrogen to do that. So you get a consistent gain throughout the power band, and not just on the hit like you saw on your dyno.
Nitrous is fun and simple to add but for the long-haul I'd rather shop for a used Pro charger or blower. You always have the power at the pedal and no refilling bottles or heating them.
What i like about nitrous is that you kinda have 2 cars in one. I can drive my car to work day to day with pretty good mpg and without having lots of engine wear. But with the push of a button it turns from a sporty naturally aspirated car into a race car. Only when I want to. A turbo, blower etc. on the other hand is always engaged and you always have a little more wear. I do get your point though, that’s just my opinion on this. It depends on the car really.
@@proximitybeejay3673 Thats extremely affordable. A 10lb bottle, flowing 125-150shot, is enough for up to 20-30 passes - which is enough for an entire weekend of hot-lapping. You're not going to be using it all the time on the street.
Nice going guys! I plan on adding Nitrous to a Chevy Crate Engine for my Street, weekend Cruiser obs Truck. Do I need to make sure there's goodies in the bottom end?
I had a 2007 Triumph Rocket 3 and got the bright idea to run a dry 50 shot. I had a tune boy and wired a momentary switch on the handle right handle bar. I was running 70mph when I hit it. I watched the RPMs scream up while the mph dropped down. Seriously confused I let off the throttle and the rear end snaps back straight. My buddy following me watched as I laid a 100 foot patch in the road. Dropped tire pressure and did a wheelie at 90 on a 700+ lb bike. Good times!!!
so i keep my nos set up and ditch plan for centrifugal supercharger which would have required me to change fuel pump carb pulley set up hood clearance and spend 5k or more
@@Just1Spark lol no. You always want to run a gap with nitrous because it runs hot enough to expand the rings to the point where they will butt again each other and destroy the motor.
I'm not trying to be sarcastic but how is the vehicle going to run (street car) with the timing advanced when I'm not activating the juice. Do I have to change the timing back and fourth between "runs"? This kind of sound like deflating the tires for a street light run and then inflating when going to the store. I'll guess and say that Nitrous is just for the drag strip and not for light to light sprints.
Msd box can help by having a retarded function wires to the wide open throttle switch. That means timing can be pulled only when in use. Msd digital 6 is an example of a box that can do this.
Depends on the engine. Modern engines with modern ECUs can change the timing by the push of a button. Now make that the same button that you engage the nitrous with and you solved the problem.
I'm kinda just learning about nitrous and I've been lead to believe that the ring gaps need to be opened up for nitrous, so wouldn't that throw the naturally aspirated numbers off a little from blowby caused by the widened gaps?
dave , steve could you guys buy and upgrade a 1956 Buick special with the original V8 that looks similar to the one from universal soldier please . NO Superchargers all internal parts
that air fuel ratio is RIDICULOUSY rich. I run 400HP systems at 12.9-13.1 and sometimes leaner. Bottle pressure is what you should be looking at, not bottle temperature
They recognized its running rich so they went back to using a different fuel jet because the plate they used maxed the nitrous flow and obviously gained more power. Bottle temperature coincides with pressure, as they stated at the beginning of the video. Hence why they mentioned bottle warmers which operate based on pressure - pressure too low, bottle warmer turns on until desired pressure is achieved. Even showed the dedicated bottle warmer they used for the video
Yea but that motor was built, how much nitrous can you run in a stock motor, like an LS or 5.0? I know you can get about 1000HP out of an LS with stock internals by boosting it but how much nitrous can those take? The 5.0 coyote question was more of a personal question as I’m thinking about putting nitrous on my 2015 mustang GT but I want to make sure I get the biggest shot possible without risking it blowing up which from what I’ve read online is about 100 or 150 shot.
Freiburger, You are confused about the fuel air ratio with nitrous. The extra fuel is added as a coolant. The manufacturers typically measure the exhaust temps and add extra fuel to bring the exhaust temps to normal when nitrous is applied. You don't need to tune the a/f ratio of the system.
@Matt Rodgers yes but there is a point at X amount of bottles where you break even between the two. I suppose it comes down to application and how much usage it will have.
@@evanc6110 i tend to agree. you have to compare the cost of the nitrous refills plus the cost of the nitrous system vs the cost of the turbo and the cost of the turbo install amortized over the life of the turbo. i don't think nitrous is all that much cheaper. not to mention you never run out of turbo. or blower.
Basic kit uses a wide open throttle switch or button. Whenever you floor it or press the button it could be on. I have raced a few time using n2o and typically launch around 2k off the foot brake. Stomp the gas and start the spray in my case.
It clears the lines of anything "non-nitrous" which ensures that when you hit the fun button it's nothing but clean nitrous oxide and instant power. Sort of same philosophy as doing a burnout and "wasting" tire to ensure a quicker launch.
Another reason is that if Ur bottle pressure is too high for what ur tune up is u can purge it to lower the pressure, but mostly it's so u only have nitrous in the line
Heating it raises the pressure, so lets say you have half a bottle heated and compare it to a bottle that is full without having been heated and the results would be similar. So to answer your question, yes and no.
I never had nitrous but watched other people use it and some damaged there engines , you should make a show about the true problems with NOS like engine going lean , over cylinder presure , ect .
@@tomcelica man that is not good. he also has the vertebrae damage from jumping that wagon and the shoulder/arm surgery from his younger days. Bringing us his hi-jinks and solid hot rod experience over the years is eating him up.
Here is another thing. If they would of switched the -4 fittings to -6 fittings, i bet you they would of gotten more power even out of the smaller jets they started with.
“Where are you gunna get that kind of horsepower for that price” - Richard sitting there quietly knowing he’s taken $200ls engines with $180 eBay turbos further
I was thinking the same thing, although, they're not likely to last as long as a built engine. Nitrous works, but it has a nasty habit of being cheap power until it isn't. Nitrous motors seem to be very unforgiving if anything goes wrong.
Not to mention that nitrous can be addictive, it is always tempting (and easy) to bump it up a little more, then a little more and a little more until...🔥🔥💣💣
Got a question for the Engine Masters (or anybody else that might know the answer). Given that nitrous oxide is around 35% (+/-) oxygen vs normal "air" being around 25% oxygen. why are we told we cannot use pure oxygen instead of nitrous in our race cars. Lets say we put pure oxygen in a nitrous bottle, and jet it for 75 hp nitrous and 100 hp gasoline.? Compensate for the 100% oxygen instead of 33% oxygen in nitrous oxide.? It seems to me to be a viable option, but nobody, but nobody does it. Why.?
Because when you ignite Nitrous, it releases 1 Oxygen atom for every 2 Nitrogen atoms. Which is why you need to make sure you have enough fuel flow to account for the additional oxygen entering the engine.
Awesome to see Richard on the show. He’s made a great following on his own channel
His 4.6 2v content is practically dictating my mod to-do list.
He's a fountain of information if you don't mind his high energy. (Also. Shred the gnar drift comrade)
@@yeanah2571 he’s proof 4.6 2v motors are still relevant & definitely got capacity for more power
Richard is the man. Bring him back
You didn’t see big gains because you didn’t heat the bottle with a torch like they do on Street Outlaws. It’s true because I read it on the internet. 🤣
Yep! And no cig hanging off the lip either!
As much money the street outlaws guy make you would think they could afford a bottle heater.
That might actually be true because it would make the gas in the bottle expand increasing pressure forcing more out when the bottles open
Lol, you can read?
@@8SPAZZ hold on I have to find someone to read me your comment.
Been using nitrous for years. Wished you had touched upon how much fuel pressure you were using on the fuel side of the nitrous.
Is 100 shot safe progressive
@@Tazerect100 shot I don’t change timing. I run 5.5 psi and a 10 jet spread. Hits like a ACME anvil falling on Wiley Coyote from a hot air balloon.
@@bradleymorris8875 I have no experience with nitrous, I have a 383 BB mostly stock, would a 100 shot buy me an extra second in the quarter? It runs mid 14 now in Colorado
@@maximuswedgie5149
A 100 shot of nitrous should take 1 whole second off of your ET time if everything is right on your car. You need a good 60' foot you need very good tires I don't see why you couldn't.
These guys and episodes are gold and will be gold in 20 years. Keep up the great information and hands on tips!
I'm with Steve, all motor all day.
First time I took my Korean girlfriend for a full hit. She asked you got turbo? I said no turbo, no nitrous, All motor Baby
All throttle no bottle
Dulcich with the new chompers
All motor till you run a guy spraying it down. 😜
Blower >
Back in 1979 while in high school I put nitrous on my 73 Buick Skylark. It gave the car a huge boost. It was so much fun.
Hands down…..best episode of Engine Masters EVER!
Excellent episode, but I still might lean toward the one with the 305 Chevy where they kept throwing more & more nitrous at it…something about that “pulling for the underdog” vibe LOL!
@@mw4992
Agreed, nitrous 305 is my favorite episode. 👍🏻
Richard old school Master !!!!
✈✈ also love to see Freiburger and Dulcich videos learn alot thanks for your time to give us alot of xp that we need in our builds .i am from saudi arabia i am fllowing you guys from long time since roadkill you are the best..
Nice to see Richard join the crew on camera
I love nitrous. Of course in our small European or Japanese engines we cannot put as much power as on your V8"for why I dont live in usa ;-(" but Iove when I sent 100shot in progressiv on my miata. Nitrous is for me , the only supercharger capable of triggering this power whenever you want and the only lag of n2o is the resistance in ohms in the wires. Nos is boss for little budget !
Shame that us in europe can not no longer watch this … was one of my favorite programs on motortrend
Come on over the pond!!!
VPN..
I've always jumped straight to turbo. Nitrous is so rough on engines from my experience. I'm sure if I fooled with it more I may have a different opinion. This really makes me want to give it a try again. I can tell software has really progressed in 25 years.
Agreed But Ironing Nitrous out is a Blast and a skill not many have , even in Nhra Classes Nitrous RULES over Turbos and Blowers But Defiantly needs the 1000% dedication to getting it perfect and consistent, ive done 100 , 200 and 300 hp shots and the torque seems to be BRUTAL vrs Blowers and Turbos and way less affected by atmospheric conditions changes. I think im going to get Serious and Move to 2 or 3 Systems !
@@MrR6guy All turbos are multiplication of atmospheric conditions. They are effected drastically by atmosphere . I have a sbc 383 with a s488 and a compound turbo cummins . Every winter especially in my truck that makes 110 psi I make allot more power use more fuel . In the summer in humid conditions I drop power . You can feel the huge difference. Turbo charging is just and dedicated. You want to feel brutal tq. Come drive a hopped up diesel. Double the tq vs hp. My trucks between 900 and 1000hp and double the tq . In a vechile that is still dailly driven that's insane.
Nitrous is only rough on engines if your ring gap isn't set properly and if you're just using a simple button or RPM trigger to have the hit all at once. With progressive nitrous controllers, you can have an extremely wide power band. They have an older nitrous video where they prove its far more gentle on the engine when a progressive controller controls flow than just using a button. They also prove that setting ring gap for the maximum shot you're going to use is important, because they broke ring lands on a few cylinders.
Even better with those progressive controllers, is that not only can you tune the nitrous flow, but also fuel flow so that you maximize the performance gain and not wash your cylinders out.
Generally speaking on OEM engines, you can get away with running as much as a 100-125shot before needing to start opening up the ring gap by a few thou.
Good to see Richard in there doing some work on the dyno! Really curious how much that little SBF cost as a "test mule"... YIKES! 👹
It hurts seeing what's probably a $10k engine being seen as disposable.
Test mules are supposed to last, not shatter every test... Why wouldn't you use a billet engine to last a long time... It's made for the abuse..... Literally. This is a year old post but still ridiculous
I would like to be able to watch this in Norway again, I WAS a paying subscriber when it still was possible.
Use a VPN
Nitrous is easy fast. I was told when I first used Nitrous I was told cold plugs good gas and less timing
2 is the correct answer. The "easy button" is also the easy piston delete button.
...as dangerous it is to drop and crack off the valve, I've always been surprised that nitrous bottles don't have the valve cap protection that other 'rocket capable' bottles have like say an O2 bottle (mind it does have more than twice the pressure) has...and it can't be a weight thing as you unscrew those caps when you have secured the bottle and are ready to plumb it...
It's the size of the bottle. If you look at cylinders for welding gas, the larger ones have caps and the smaller ones do not.
These are considered Class 2 and 3 hazardous materials..in order to get these bottles they have to be shipped in trucks. FEDERAL Motor carrier laws apply gotta have safety measures in place and inspected or they cant be shipped in large quantities..
Don't drop the bottle. Problem solved 😉
Started using not just Nitrous but NOS Brand since Scott and Mike started the little shop across from Cypress College in So Cal in the early 1980's!
Have always loved it and always will! That should show my age! LoL 😂 ✌🤙
Hey guys I love the content and I enjoy the enthusiasm in your videos. I have a 4.6 mustang gt 2v I would like to see what you would do with one of those engines just to see if its a dead end or can be viable. We all know the s550s have alot of potential however you never see people do much with with the Romeo v8s or the Windsor of that generation and it was in everything Ford produced in some capacity
need to have a way to maintain bottle pressure throughout the entire run, companies like Nano use nitrogen to do that. So you get a consistent gain throughout the power band, and not just on the hit like you saw on your dyno.
For Nano , you refill with air compressed?:So as paintball
It would be interesting to know what fuel jet and what fuel.
Nitrous is fun and simple to add but for the long-haul I'd rather shop for a used Pro charger or blower. You always have the power at the pedal and no refilling bottles or heating them.
120$ a refill here for small bottle. Not very affordable lol
What i like about nitrous is that you kinda have 2 cars in one. I can drive my car to work day to day with pretty good mpg and without having lots of engine wear. But with the push of a button it turns from a sporty naturally aspirated car into a race car. Only when I want to. A turbo, blower etc. on the other hand is always engaged and you always have a little more wear.
I do get your point though, that’s just my opinion on this. It depends on the car really.
@@proximitybeejay3673 Thats extremely affordable. A 10lb bottle, flowing 125-150shot, is enough for up to 20-30 passes - which is enough for an entire weekend of hot-lapping. You're not going to be using it all the time on the street.
@@rotor13 that bottle in my BMW daily driver got only about 15 squirts. and they was shortest possible
@@proximitybeejay3673 Sounds like you have a 5lb bottle instead of the average 10lb.
Steve Brulé looks great!
Small small block! 😎 I like!
What's better then no2 no2 with boost 👍love seeing rich with you guys. There's such a wealth of knowledge in the shop with you three guys.
we need for engine masters a big block chevy testing like a 572 or 632ci with bolts on and supercharged
Nice going guys! I plan on adding Nitrous to a Chevy Crate Engine for my Street, weekend Cruiser obs Truck. Do I need to make sure there's goodies in the bottom end?
Certified ripper. 💪🏼
I had a 2007 Triumph Rocket 3 and got the bright idea to run a dry 50 shot. I had a tune boy and wired a momentary switch on the handle right handle bar. I was running 70mph when I hit it. I watched the RPMs scream up while the mph dropped down. Seriously confused I let off the throttle and the rear end snaps back straight. My buddy following me watched as I laid a 100 foot patch in the road. Dropped tire pressure and did a wheelie at 90 on a 700+ lb bike. Good times!!!
Hey Mr clean is on the set now
so i keep my nos set up and ditch plan for centrifugal supercharger which would have required me to change fuel pump carb pulley set up hood clearance and spend 5k or more
Even welding bottles when they hit the floor and you take out the valve they're a rocket.
4* per 100hp depends on engine size. 100hp on motorcycles is about 10-12*. If you have a 500 ci engine making it will be
You didn’t tell us the air fuel ratio with the last fuel jet tune!!!
where's Steve?
?
@@vincentgotter4669 Steve is the guy who usually runs the Dyno. I know his wife passed away last year.
dead
I’ve missed a couple episodes where’s the cool old dude
I'm thinking it's time to add a 6-71.
Awesome video but we're the rings gapped for nitrous and is it safe to run a 150 shot without gapping the rings?
Yes they had to have been. Could you do it with no gap maby probly should you No unless your made of money.
I was wondering that too.
Total Seal gapless rings.
@@Just1Spark lol no. You always want to run a gap with nitrous because it runs hot enough to expand the rings to the point where they will butt again each other and destroy the motor.
@@rotor13 lol
have you ever tested a blown engine versus a turbo engine and what were the result comparison
Richard Holdener (the bald guy) did on his channel.
Generally speaking turbo has more hp and blower makes more torque (parasitic loses vers lag ).
Thanks fellas
Great show 3 great people
Thanks for this video
I'm not trying to be sarcastic but how is the vehicle going to run (street car) with the timing advanced when I'm not activating the juice. Do I have to change the timing back and fourth between "runs"? This kind of sound like deflating the tires for a street light run and then inflating when going to the store. I'll guess and say that Nitrous is just for the drag strip and not for light to light sprints.
Msd box can help by having a retarded function wires to the wide open throttle switch. That means timing can be pulled only when in use. Msd digital 6 is an example of a box that can do this.
Depends on the engine. Modern engines with modern ECUs can change the timing by the push of a button. Now make that the same button that you engage the nitrous with and you solved the problem.
I'm kinda just learning about nitrous and I've been lead to believe that the ring gaps need to be opened up for nitrous, so wouldn't that throw the naturally aspirated numbers off a little from blowby caused by the widened gaps?
Ring gaps and you need to drop timing, so if you don’t have a timing retardation control then it’s even worse when you’re not on the sauce
They’re not that much wider lol it’s like a couple thou if that
You should do a Nitrous and Turbo together on same motor in see what it does
More NOS please 😁😁👍👍
But, how reliable is that? How many hits before you're cleaning up rod's off the road?
That's why god made belly pans.
If you dont go crazy and you've got the correct ring gap, you'll never scatter your engine.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!! I LOVE MY HOT ROD FAMILY!!!! I ALWAYS LEARN SO MUCH!!!!! AND HAVE SO MUCH FUN!!!!
I want to possibly add Nitrous to a Vortec 350 Turn Key Engine. Just for weekend fun. Do I need to do anything extra?
dave , steve could you guys buy and upgrade a 1956 Buick special with the original V8 that looks similar to the one from universal soldier please . NO Superchargers all internal parts
that air fuel ratio is RIDICULOUSY rich. I run 400HP systems at 12.9-13.1 and sometimes leaner. Bottle pressure is what you should be looking at, not bottle temperature
They recognized its running rich so they went back to using a different fuel jet because the plate they used maxed the nitrous flow and obviously gained more power.
Bottle temperature coincides with pressure, as they stated at the beginning of the video. Hence why they mentioned bottle warmers which operate based on pressure - pressure too low, bottle warmer turns on until desired pressure is achieved. Even showed the dedicated bottle warmer they used for the video
I think it’s got more power in it NA with a more aggressive cam
Torch and nitrous are like marriage made for each other
Yea but that motor was built, how much nitrous can you run in a stock motor, like an LS or 5.0? I know you can get about 1000HP out of an LS with stock internals by boosting it but how much nitrous can those take? The 5.0 coyote question was more of a personal question as I’m thinking about putting nitrous on my 2015 mustang GT but I want to make sure I get the biggest shot possible without risking it blowing up which from what I’ve read online is about 100 or 150 shot.
I’m with Steve except with boost , preferably turbo(s) N/A is boring .
Mythbusters tried the "knock the valve off" bit. Probably air or nitrogen. Went through a concrete block wall.
What happened to the Bang Shift Cougar? Wasn’t that bad little engine in the 67 Cougar?
Freiburger, You are confused about the fuel air ratio with nitrous. The extra fuel is added as a coolant. The manufacturers typically measure the exhaust temps and add extra fuel to bring the exhaust temps to normal when nitrous is applied. You don't need to tune the a/f ratio of the system.
Wrong
OK Robert, Let's hear you explanation. Mine comes from David Vizard, a noted expert on these matters.@@robertlane370
I want to add a 50 shot To My G37 maybe 75 shot at the most, any advice? New to this nitrous stuff
I'm on a budget..I'm using the torch lol
Harry, i need it by tonight
its not low buck when you have to keep refilling bottles. i have a pile of #15'ers , it aint cheap.
By far cheaper than a turbo install. I could refill a lot of bottles for what it would cost to install an equal amount of forced induction power.
@Matt Rodgers yes but there is a point at X amount of bottles where you break even between the two. I suppose it comes down to application and how much usage it will have.
@@evanc6110 i tend to agree. you have to compare the cost of the nitrous refills plus the cost of the nitrous system vs the cost of the turbo and the cost of the turbo install amortized over the life of the turbo. i don't think nitrous is all that much cheaper. not to mention you never run out of turbo. or blower.
Freiburger getting excited:
Where's bruiale?
I know that’s what I was wondering
This is an old episode of engine masters. From time to time he's gone for whatever reason and richard fills in.
Where the other dyno guy i think his name was steve
What was the final A/R after jetting @ 250hp shot ?
Kuzz they never said...they missed the point of leaning out the mixture. what was the A/R change?
How low of RPM can you hit a 150hp shot in a stock big block 455 olds? Engine is all done at 5000 rpm, that’s why I ask.
Basic kit uses a wide open throttle switch or button. Whenever you floor it or press the button it could be on. I have raced a few time using n2o and typically launch around 2k off the foot brake. Stomp the gas and start the spray in my case.
@@bure4me unless you're built most advice is to spray above 3k. Lower than that can put strain on your rods.
i'd be more apt to pull a $300 460 out of a junkyard and build it, before paying $6k for a short block
Maybe Richard needs to dim the lights for the next big bang on his live feed
What became of the engine you guys were building with the massive unnecessary side clearance on the rods we saw so much hype about?
You can't beat the bang for the buck
My question is about purging before a run, why? Isn't that wasting the nitrous?
It clears the lines of anything "non-nitrous" which ensures that when you hit the fun button it's nothing but clean nitrous oxide and instant power. Sort of same philosophy as doing a burnout and "wasting" tire to ensure a quicker launch.
Another reason is that if Ur bottle pressure is too high for what ur tune up is u can purge it to lower the pressure, but mostly it's so u only have nitrous in the line
Wrong 90% bottle pressure related
@@RedXray That's why you turn the bottles off🧁 It's obvious you have no clue
Its done to get rid of any air pockets in the lines so that there is nothing but liquid Nitrous being injected.
Wouldn't heating the bottle make more difference on a half full bottle?
Heating it raises the pressure, so lets say you have half a bottle heated and compare it to a bottle that is full without having been heated and the results would be similar. So to answer your question, yes and no.
Look up the "Gas Laws" and u will understand how ratios work..
So i can put nitrous in a forged Hemi 426 Naturally aspirated motor for a daily driver?
Holdner knows an Ebay turbo will make more power and it might be cheaper than a nitrous kit.
I'm a bit surprised there is no consideration given to the spark plugs. My kit suggests 2 steps colder for a 250 capable setup.
I never had nitrous but watched other people use it and some damaged there engines , you should make a show about the true problems with NOS like engine going lean , over cylinder presure , ect .
That's a tuning issue. They just showed you.
If I ever deal with that type of system ,I need the controls for it
It’s nice to see Richie doin’ his thing! Freiberger I hope you found some relief from the constant ringing. Maybe CBD or cannabis might help.
Lol oh I'm sure he's tried cannabis
Tom Celica Freiberger's got tintinitus?
@@johnbecay3859 unfortunately, yes.
@@tomcelica man that is not good. he also has the vertebrae damage from jumping that wagon and the shoulder/arm surgery from his younger days. Bringing us his hi-jinks and solid hot rod experience over the years is eating him up.
I miss Engine Masters. No more MTOD and I can't find it on D+
Bravissimi! 👍🏻👏🏻
I want something I can daily yet absolutely race when I want… nitrous 😊
I think they got the AFR point wrong, it’s supposed to be richer, can someone clarify
What happened to the other two guys that were usually on the show?
Richard looks like a Martian 👽🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bring back MotorTrend outside the U.S🤬
Why are you hitting the NOS so late in the RPM sweep?
Less likely to blow it up from extreme cylinder. Generally want to hit it after the torque to keep the rods and bearings happy
Here is another thing. If they would of switched the -4 fittings to -6 fittings, i bet you they would of gotten more power even out of the smaller jets they started with.
“Where are you gunna get that kind of horsepower for that price” - Richard sitting there quietly knowing he’s taken $200ls engines with $180 eBay turbos further
I was thinking the same thing, although, they're not likely to last as long as a built engine.
Nitrous works, but it has a nasty habit of being cheap power until it isn't. Nitrous motors seem to be very unforgiving if anything goes wrong.
Not to mention that nitrous can be addictive, it is always tempting (and easy) to bump it up a little more, then a little more and a little more until...🔥🔥💣💣
@@AreaThirteenThirteen soooo true
What happened to Steve Brulé?
I wish they'd bring back roadkill extra
Ring end gap?
Why wait so long to add spray? Dial it in peak tq around 3500 no
Got a question for the Engine Masters (or anybody else that might know the answer). Given that nitrous oxide is around 35% (+/-) oxygen vs normal "air" being around 25% oxygen. why are we told we cannot use pure oxygen instead of nitrous in our race cars. Lets say we put pure oxygen in a nitrous bottle, and jet it for 75 hp nitrous and 100 hp gasoline.? Compensate for the 100% oxygen instead of 33% oxygen in nitrous oxide.? It seems to me to be a viable option, but nobody, but nobody does it. Why.?
There was a such thing, called Ozone injection, I think, back in the 60s. Well before my time, but it gives you a starting point to research.
Because when you ignite Nitrous, it releases 1 Oxygen atom for every 2 Nitrogen atoms. Which is why you need to make sure you have enough fuel flow to account for the additional oxygen entering the engine.
RICHARD!!!
HMM, Options..
EVERY CAM IS A TURBO CAM!!
The availability is the issue, can’t find nitrous where I’m at
Spray is the way
Drill the nitrous jet's out a little bit