What is the Hollywood Blacklist?

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  • @ioLanche
    @ioLanche 8 років тому +12

    Great video, Tyler! Even though politics and media where very different at that time, I think it's really interesting how national leadership was implicitly recognizing the impact that entertainment can have over the opinions and sympathies of the general public.

  • @auncro6031
    @auncro6031 8 років тому +18

    Great vid, I really like videos that show films and film history being changed by other historical events. Such as communism in the early 1900s, in this case. It's another way of showing how art is a reflection of our reality.

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  8 років тому +4

      Thanks! I'm the same way! It's fascinating how much impact some historical events have had on filmmaking.

    • @trebleizerquartet1717
      @trebleizerquartet1717 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, but it's not an accurate reflection, unless it can be shown to be.

    • @ClyDIley
      @ClyDIley Рік тому +1

      ​@@trebleizerquartet1717 exactly

  • @robertpolanco1973
    @robertpolanco1973 7 років тому +13

    I find it sad that the Hollywood Blacklist had damaged careers, and even lives, of innocent people who simply felt that their rights have been trampled on. The politicians were responsible for their campaign of intimidation during the era of both McCarthy and the House Un-American Activities Committee. What a tragedy!

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  7 років тому +8

      It's a shame that such strong paranoia can influence our culture and government so much.

    • @robertpolanco1973
      @robertpolanco1973 7 років тому +5

      I agree. Such a thing should NEVER have happened in the first place. The Hollywood Blacklist was based on paranoia and suspicion.

    • @tyroneaugustine229
      @tyroneaugustine229 6 років тому +3

      The powers that be been fucking people for a long time...even today you can't stand up for something without the consequences life is unfair....the dream killers have prevailed and are moving on while the ones we came to know nd love fade like a movie scene

    • @lornearmstrong1834
      @lornearmstrong1834 5 років тому +2

      Oh the horror of losing a job in Hollywood, it's worse than being sent to Auschwitz (sarcasm)

    • @marino2duper
      @marino2duper 5 років тому +2

      @@CinemaTyler paranoia that looking back 70 years ago was true, commie thought has taken over lala land. Hollywood use to be influenced by christian values and beliefs up until the 50's ,now its a cesspool immoral behavior.

  • @ryanmccurdy9423
    @ryanmccurdy9423 8 років тому +8

    When will you be finishing your 2001 doc? I'm really interested in the last part of how Kubrick finished his masterpiece.

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  8 років тому +4

      I'm working on Part 6 as we speak! I have 24 pages of notes so far and I've found some great resources that I think you'll really enjoy. I have a couple of smaller videos that are nearly finished being written so it is likely that they will be published first. Stay tuned!

  • @hh2n
    @hh2n 8 років тому +11

    Great videos. Some moments are hard to understand due to my lack on knowing history or language, and i have to google a lot. Thanks for this.

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  8 років тому +5

      Thanks! Try using the 'closed-captioning.' I transcribed everything myself to try to make it easier to understand and so that the subtitles can be translated into other languages. Hope this helps!

    • @Em22-wtf
      @Em22-wtf 4 роки тому +2

      @@CinemaTyler ohhh hey, that's great to know! I'm actually hard of hearing, have been since childhood and even though I have hearing aids, it's still hard to hear some things or make what's being said. When I watch movies, I ALWAYS have CC on, drives everyone else nuts, but I just tell them it'll you drive you more nuts if I have to keep asking you what they said... Or stop the movie and rewind it 3-4 times.... They stop complaining about CC after that! But I don't usually use it on YT bc it's auto generated and gawd awful! But, if you transcribe it yourself, then that's much better than YTs. Thank you for that!

  • @jancz357
    @jancz357 7 років тому +19

    none of the "hollywood ten" was executed, imprisoned or sent to a work camp, unlike on the other side...

    • @vicenteortegarubilar9418
      @vicenteortegarubilar9418 7 років тому +12

      bloodygentleman Yes is true. But the soviet union was a young country with an autoritharian regime and a history of revolution, a civil war and the WII, all of wich left the country in great need of a strong goverment.
      The USA was a Republic, with liberal ideas and a constitution that protected civil liberties, there was never any interruption in the political system of America like a dictatorship or a monarchy for almost 200 years until that time.
      I'm not deffending the URSS, but they did what dictatorships do (sadly ) I am just saying what happen in the US should have never happen in a country that defends ideals of free speech.

    • @o.guimaraes
      @o.guimaraes 4 роки тому +1

      The ten were treated too lightly

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 3 роки тому +1

      @@o.guimaraes Fascist spotted.

    • @o.guimaraes
      @o.guimaraes 3 роки тому +1

      @@zxbc1 Do you like helicopters?

    • @ClyDIley
      @ClyDIley Рік тому +1

      ​@@vicenteortegarubilar9418 For the record...
      No, not exactly. Labeling the Soviet Union a dictatorship, instead of the ideological authoritarian regime that it was, is a blatent attempt to white wash, obfuscates, and scape goat the murderously resentful ideology at its root, that has shown, time and time again during the 20th century, to be as universally malicious and malevolent as incompetent, ineffective, and authoritarian.
      Not all authoritarian regimes are murderous regimes, or communist regimes, or murderous communist regimes... but every communist regime has proven to be authoritarian, murderous, and most poignantly... communist

  • @Em22-wtf
    @Em22-wtf 4 роки тому +6

    Oh, and RIP Kirk Douglas...who died today Feb 5th 2020 at 103.
    I wonder how so many wealthy Hollywood stars live so long, even after receiving a usually life ending diagnosis. I guess money can def buy a long life...but was it a happy one? I hope so, bc we know money can't buy THAT anyway.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 4 роки тому

      Curious as to what his condition was.
      Man he lived long! I never knew his speech got messed up even until I saw this video just now.

    • @Em22-wtf
      @Em22-wtf 4 роки тому

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 I had known, only bc my aunt and mom were talking about it bc they remembered him when they were young. And they were both fans of Michael Douglas, he was more popular when I was young. But I remember them both talking about how bad his speech was

    • @emmap1159
      @emmap1159 9 місяців тому

      Hollywood money will move you up the transplant list.

  • @Ertimeotkhedi
    @Ertimeotkhedi 8 років тому +5

    So this is a Blacklist meaning, now I know even more. Thanks brah...

  • @IrishMcScottish
    @IrishMcScottish Рік тому +2

    Man, Kirk Douglas looked every bit of 190

  • @derutabeart1242
    @derutabeart1242 2 роки тому +1

    Hello . What about Elia Kazam?

  • @leilanimartinezzzzz
    @leilanimartinezzzzz 4 роки тому +2

    What causes some groups of people to dislike and fear other groups of people?

    • @GusOfTheDorks
      @GusOfTheDorks 3 роки тому +9

      It would be the mass death camps they seem to create and the mass executions. That's why most people fear communists. Also the mass starvation that seems to be pretty common.

    • @Pstephen
      @Pstephen Рік тому +1

      @@GusOfTheDorks - nether of which haver happened under any other system? - there were reasons for the Russian and Chinese revolutions.

    • @GusOfTheDorks
      @GusOfTheDorks Рік тому +2

      @@Pstephen I mean yeah, monarchy as a system sucks too. I dont think anyone would debate that.

    • @Apolemia
      @Apolemia Рік тому +1

      Fear of the unknown. Fear of the others people "which arent not normal because they look different from us". Rejection is led by the fear of your opponent to be so different from you that they can be a threat, as you dont know their limits. From that, paranoïa awake and you create all sort of reasons to make "this stranger" even more different than you and to despise them.

    • @Apolemia
      @Apolemia Рік тому

      Homophobes for example dont realize that the homosexuals are just like them, human being.
      They see them as "another kind of human, looking like them but very different" who are a threat for "their society and their norms", as they "can transforms the world and put bad seeds in new generation's mind". Instead of seeing them as their equal looking to be free from harassment for their life choice (who only concern themselves and not others), they see them as "other people" and so, troes to eradicate them.
      This reasoning applies to all other minorities you can think about.
      Some can be legit (such as fear of psychopaths whose actions can causes actual chaos if they were free in the streets) and others are exagerrated. This is the reason why all hate towards other is so complicated to manage/explain/make disappear, as it can appear to be very subjective at first

  • @43jaygee
    @43jaygee 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this. Well done. Just watched "Trumbo" last night and this was most appropriate to watch.

    • @BlackIce3190
      @BlackIce3190 4 роки тому +5

      Trumbo was straight propaganda and historical revisionism.

  • @sdwzed4585
    @sdwzed4585 3 роки тому +2

    thanks so much this was helpful.

  • @marvin3828
    @marvin3828 3 роки тому +4

    I’ve how the only one of the ten I’ve heard of is Edward Dmytryk, who apparently isn’t even the most popular one.

  • @БекаБеркович-з8к
    @БекаБеркович-з8к 8 років тому +4

    Really great. Thank You!

  • @GoodmansGhost
    @GoodmansGhost 8 років тому +30

    And this here is why there was so many crap movies made in the 50s. Once the good writers and directors are weeded out, you gotta replace em with the bad ones.

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  8 років тому +12

      Too true. It's crazy what paranoia can do to some people.

    • @seanramsdell4172
      @seanramsdell4172 7 років тому +5

      Not all films in the 50's were crap the same way not all from the 60's were masterpieces. I mean none of the victims should've lost their jobs over political beliefs, but not all of them were starving to death (John and Faith Hubley won Oscars, Bill Scott worked on Rocky and Bullwinkle, Jules Dassin found success with Rififi and so on).

    • @chopin65
      @chopin65 6 років тому +3

      GoodmansGhost I have always maintained politics corrupt art, and it is true. If you blacklist people because they enjoy their first amendment rights too liberally, then the result will be Dean Martin and Doris Day and directors like Ed Wood.
      I wood add to this phenomenon censorship of the Catholic League of that period and the MPAA which still permits the influence of the Catholic Church to corrupt the artistry of film makers in America.
      It is getting better, however, because of wide spread access to digital technology, and media sites on the Internet like You Tube.
      We must all safe guard our right of free speech and artistic expression!

    • @chopin65
      @chopin65 6 років тому +1

      GoodmansGhost Here is an excellent documentary on what film makers are up against:
      ua-cam.com/video/h8N3EztyOoA/v-deo.html

    • @widfilms
      @widfilms 6 років тому +1

      Do you think it is possible for such an ostracizing to happen again in this country? Why or why not? If yes, what conditions do you see it happening under and how would it take effect? If not, why do you believe it would not be possible?

  • @karlkarlos3545
    @karlkarlos3545 8 років тому +3

    From what time is this interview with Kirk Douglas?

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  8 років тому +1

      The interview is from 2012 before a screening of the film. ua-cam.com/video/FZTbcWwSAhI/v-deo.html

    • @karlkarlos3545
      @karlkarlos3545 8 років тому +1

      CinemaTyler
      thanks

  • @doordonut5427
    @doordonut5427 8 років тому +5

    You released so many videos today lol

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  8 років тому +1

      Hehe, they're all related and it was so hard not to publish my Bridge on the River Kwai video while I made these side videos. That's part of why it took so long!

  • @XDD2012
    @XDD2012 8 років тому +2

    Informative. Thank you)

  • @jansdoe6963
    @jansdoe6963 5 років тому +4

    Kirk Douglas is a classey guy.

  • @RahRahz
    @RahRahz 4 роки тому +2

    There's still a Hollywood list..

  • @AZ-697
    @AZ-697 3 роки тому +5

    Well this is clearly happening again 🙃

    • @corneliabender-dantoni787
      @corneliabender-dantoni787 Рік тому

      IT never stopped and all is /was planned. Satan is the ruler of this fallen world!!!

    • @freddyfurrah3789
      @freddyfurrah3789 7 місяців тому

      Yes, the LEFT is doing it to CONSERVATIVES.

  • @coveofpentagrams2671
    @coveofpentagrams2671 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! It helped me a lot with a school project. Thanks for the sources too.

  • @vivi_vivi69
    @vivi_vivi69 7 років тому +26

    Hello from USSR

  • @davysmith8569
    @davysmith8569 3 роки тому +1

    excellent

  • @VladimirBradley
    @VladimirBradley 8 років тому +2

    Tyler! Much thanks for your videos! Спасибо!

  • @luffyichigo850
    @luffyichigo850 4 роки тому +1

    Wow.... Have anyone watched Trumbo???

  • @Oelov
    @Oelov 8 років тому +4

    your videos are so good im becoming mad

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 5 років тому +4

    The real blacklist began with the Warner Brothers strike in 1946. People were fired because they were involved in that strike and they were never rehired, for them the blacklist never ended. Some were communists, some were not-- but they were all labeled as communists (like my friend, artist Hans Burkhardt. He was blacklisted for life, and was always pissed off that they'd labeled him a communist. His wife still worked in the business.)
    The Communist Party USA ordered its members not to admit they were members and of course not to name others who were party members. It wasn't illegal to be a communist or a CP member. It carried a stigma, but who was a communist in the business usually wasn't much of a secret or an issue. (You think no one knew what Dalton Trumbo was doing during his blacklisting? He could write a script and that's what really mattered.) The whole 'Hollywood ten' stuff is a bit over the top. Some of the most successful people in the business, followed Party orders and got themselves in trouble for a few years. One writer commented that this wasn't life or death, it wasn't even about human rights, it was about whether you kept your swimming pool.
    McCarthy and his ilk were complete villains, and did more damage to America than the communists. The practices of the CPUSA weren't much different. They were making and breaking careers in the 1930s. Actress Frances Farmer 'won' trip to the USSR, she came back and said, "those people are starving!" She was targeted by party members, her career destroyed, she had a nervous breakdown. Most communists who went to jail or were blacklisted were put in a position where under oath they had to answer questions. The Fifth Amendment protects people from being compelled to incriminate themselves. Being a communist wasn't a crime, refusing to admit it ended up being one. If you were subpoenaed to testify before Congress or in a court and were sworn in and refused to admit you had a UA-cam Channel, you too could go to prison. Why would you do refuse? Because you might be asked for the names of other UA-camrs? So what?
    What wasn't known publicly at the time ( I'm sure McCarthy wasn't told) was that the CPUSA was largely funded by, and controlled by the USSR. (The Venona Project, a US program of decrypting Soviet communiques with spies discovered this in the 1950s but the Venona intercepts were not declassified until the 1980s)
    I've known several CPUSA members, I don't think any of them were spies, but one of the uses of the CPUSA by the Soviet Union was to spy. The older a CP USA member is the more 'normal people' they were. They wanted to make a better world. I knew a lot of Marxist and leftists in the 1970s who were my age. They were emphatically not CP. You have to wonder why anyone would join the CP after the crushing of the Prague Spring 1967, Poland 1955, Hungary 1956, and the Gulag being revealed by Khruschev. There were a few and they were odd.
    There are whole lists of communist 'nods' and content inserted into movies from the 1930s on. Most weren't much different than liberal or leftist concerns, this practice still goes on-- it's just politics, but not CP politics. The 'nods' are more interesting and probably didn't have much impact. There's a 1940s movie where an actor walking to an elevator is whistling the Internationale. Even if you know the tune you'd be likely to miss it.
    If blacklists are wrong, then guess who else used them? The CP promoted the careers of its members and undermined the careers of people who opposed them. Considering the number of movie stars and directors who openly opposed not just communists but left wing and liberal politics, the CP in Hollywood was insidious but not in any position to take control.
    There are some good books on this subject. I think you owe it to your viewers to actually look into this subject. Just repeating the same old 'stuff' does no one any good-- it's boring and not half as interesting as the truth. And you don't have to dislike Dalton Trumbo or Edward Dimetryck.
    CP member Stirling Hayden's autobiography is really interesting, he tells a similar story to Chester Hime's CP experience. Cute women were used to get men to go to Party parties, there was a Party shrink who told Hayden, an alcoholic, that it was okay to have a couple of drinks in the morning-- whatever it took to keep him toeing the party line: blondes or bourbon. (His role in Robert Altman's The Long Goodbye is not at all dissimilar to what he'd actually gone through. And Chandler's book might have been about the same guy.)
    Am I some right wing apologist for Red Hysteria? Nope, my politics are radical, and I'm going to vote today for an old friend who was a 'Red Diaper Baby' meaning her parents were CP members. Look at the video of how Elia Kazan was treated when he received his life time achievement academy award. The young people who sat on their hands scowling are some of the best people in the business; but what they did that night was not principled, it was idiotic. Then take a look at On The Waterfront, it's about union corruption on the east coast Waterfront but it's also about how the CP operated in Hollywood.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 4 роки тому +8

      “McCarthy and his ilk were complete villains, and did more damage to America than the communists.”
      Just, _WOW._ You’ve got to be pretty damn messed up in the head to think that!

    • @isaiahvaldez3330
      @isaiahvaldez3330 3 роки тому +1

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 Not Mcarthy! Who will defend us from the red bears at Russia?!

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 3 роки тому +2

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 Funny how we're literally in the process of new McCarthyism, and you come in with the timely propaganda.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 3 роки тому

      @@zxbc1
      haha!! That is the funniest thing I’ve read all day. Thanks for the belly laugh!

    • @doddsino
      @doddsino 2 роки тому

      McCarthy had nothing to do with the HUAC. McCarthy was more concerned about those who were communist sympathizers in the government, which is a completely legitimate reason to question people. Martin Dies was the chairman of the HUAC, which of course Hollywood doesn't want to mention since he belonged to the party that they currently endorse. In fact, 6 of the 8 chairman were of the Democratic party and the "red scare" can be traced back all the way to the late 1910's, with Lee Overton, another Democrat.
      But hey... Joseph McCarthy was the fuckin' devil because of his party so...

  • @GamzeninDunyas-th7hh
    @GamzeninDunyas-th7hh 11 місяців тому

    Videolarınızı severek izliyorum. Emeğinize saygı duyuyorum.

  • @MrMalmir
    @MrMalmir 3 роки тому +2

    Black list never ended Gibson, Kevin Spacey and some others are in the list now

    • @GusOfTheDorks
      @GusOfTheDorks 3 роки тому +1

      Isn't Kevin Spacy accused of touching little kids?

    • @MrMalmir
      @MrMalmir 3 роки тому

      @@GusOfTheDorks
      Yeap,some are in the list for that,some for been anti Israel.

    • @MrMalmir
      @MrMalmir 3 роки тому +1

      By the way, women not kids.

  • @seanramsdell4172
    @seanramsdell4172 7 років тому +3

    CinemaTyler You watched Hail Caesar?

    • @CinemaTyler
      @CinemaTyler  7 років тому

      I did. I didn't like it. Maybe I need to see it again.

  • @Boxmediaphile
    @Boxmediaphile 3 роки тому +11

    Now your black listed if you have moderate/conservative views

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 3 роки тому +1

      Bullshit. Stop playing victim when you're the perpetrator. We are literally experiencing McCarthyism again with people being accused of being communist left and right just for having left leaning ideas, thanks to your "moderate" (which really is right wing since US politics have fallen off a cliff by world standard) or conservative (which is really fascist at this point) views.

    • @theantiadult
      @theantiadult Рік тому

      Not really. It's actually the opposite

  • @manuelmaldonadojr2526
    @manuelmaldonadojr2526 7 років тому +1

    hey I love it thank you.

  • @voteforno.6155
    @voteforno.6155 6 років тому +7

    And today we are afraid of teh Russian bots... some things never change.

  • @dutchmountainsnake5379
    @dutchmountainsnake5379 7 років тому +7

    Yeah... Paranoia... Conspiracy theories.. Look at the messages being pushed, the names associated with, and the very distinct politically charged content that is being produced by Hollywood today... And the extremity of the case. We'd need such a comittee now more then ever

    • @robertpolanco1973
      @robertpolanco1973 7 років тому +4

      What do you mean by that? And what people would want a "committee" in today's circumstances?

    • @ETBrooD
      @ETBrooD 7 років тому +4

      I suspect he means people can't be openly conservative when they work in Hollywood.

  • @joeydmedia
    @joeydmedia 4 роки тому +2

    why tf am i learning this in English class

  • @heikkijhautanen4576
    @heikkijhautanen4576 3 роки тому +2

    This must have been insane!! The Comie boogieman must have been everywhere in north america back then :D

    • @GusOfTheDorks
      @GusOfTheDorks 3 роки тому +3

      It sounds insane because it never really happened. The entire house hearing was about communist sympathizers in the military. Also Hollywood's communist connections in the 40's didnt need a house hearing committee (not that they could have called one) because there were so many. Heck it was so bad that when the soviet union fell, declassified KGB doccuments showed they'd been pumping money into hollywood at the tune of a good couple million a year.
      But seriously, try to find a transcript of any of these hearings where they talk about black lists

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 3 роки тому +1

      @@GusOfTheDorks Blacklists are real, your assertion of "declassified KGB documents" is patently false. A simple google search will verify this. The ten are not remembered as blacklisted members but as people who stood up to censorship. The actual blacklists affected a lot more than ten people.
      The new McCarthyism is upon us. Look at the rise of fascism in US now and the whitewashing of this part of history. We're doomed to repeat it.

  • @NostalgiNorden
    @NostalgiNorden 7 років тому +3

    Land of the free - My ass!

    • @StellarStation214
      @StellarStation214 11 місяців тому

      They were not free to infiltrate the US or be part of organizations funded by Russia.

  • @OuterGalaxyLounge
    @OuterGalaxyLounge 7 років тому +3

    The Hollywood 10, Otto Preminger, Kirk Douglas. American heroes.

    • @o.guimaraes
      @o.guimaraes 4 роки тому

      Jesus Christ. Who is Thomas Jefferson near the Hero (never communist!) John Howard Lawson! And all the other nine!

  • @mr.metamovies2419
    @mr.metamovies2419 3 роки тому +2

    And OBVIOUSLY Wikipedia is a source.

  • @ThheSocial
    @ThheSocial Рік тому

    ring partner junior albert altz edward domitirc john howard adria sky

  • @eillenhernandez3016
    @eillenhernandez3016 4 роки тому

    PRES Reagan has to testify?
    No wonder he didnt get the Oscar for Mackenna's Golf
    Maybe because Omar Shariff das Egyptian and was in the same movie

    • @zxbc1
      @zxbc1 3 роки тому +1

      He testified to snitch. He was a crook long before he became POTUS. A true traitor and crony.

  • @theantiadult
    @theantiadult Рік тому +1

    Theres still a Hollywood black list

  • @freddyfurrah3789
    @freddyfurrah3789 7 місяців тому

    God bless Joe.