The Grown Up Altima? | 2020 Nissan Maxima Review
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2020
- Nissan's Maxima has a great V6 engine, engaging handling, comfortable seats and it's well priced. Trouble is, it's not actually bigger than an Altima, nor does it necessarily feel more premium than an Altima. So why not buy an Altima? Let's see if we can find out.
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Hey guys, I know, I know. It's Camry V6 and Accord 2.0T, but you try keeping all of these details right in your head. LOL Somehow the pros and cons got deleted on the Avalon. The main pros for the Avalon are available AWD and the available hybrid system.
All is forgiven.
Another Avalon pro - it won’t need major repairs every two years.
A 2.0T Camry would be interesting indeed. In the meantime, would be nice for the Maxima to get a non-CVT transmission.
Imo the Camry v6 and Avalon are far superior than the maxima and Altima
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I bought my Maxima in January 2016 so it is basically the same car. I got the Platinum version and at the time it offered all of the safety tech of the Toyota Avalon at a better price so I looked at it. When I got in, the steering wheel electrically moved into place which I haven't seen on a car without a luxury name plate. In addition, the balance is excellent in winter driving and I have not needed 4WD and live in Wisconsin. I drive it all winter and only needed to miss 3 days in the last 4 years due to snow. It gets excellent gas mileage, handily beating the EPA estimates and get 33 Hwy sometimes. Not bad for an engine that reminds me it has 300 hp when I step on the accelerator. The fit and finish are excellent and the memory seats move back when it is time for egress so it is easier to get in and out of. For me, the seats were more comfortable than the Avalon's or the Altima's. As for ride, there is a bump dampening system that applies brakes to the front as the rear wheels hit them so overall it is one of the smoothest rides I have ridden in. I owned Avalons from the 2005 and 2012 vintages and would have continued with the 2016 but found that Avalon rough in comparison to the Maxima. For me, the ride is as compliant as my old Avalons but feels more planted and evenly weighted. I don't notice the CVT in normal use and overall, I have enjoyed this Maxima more than any care I have ever owned.
Alex - I can't disagree we you more. My wife drives a 2019 Altima and I have a Maxima Platinum. There is no comparsion. The Maxima handles and rides much better.
Also I love the CVT in the Maxima. No hunting for gears as most automatics do. Since its continuous its smooth as slik as far as I am concerned
I have Maxima'z since 1995 the lates one is the best. There is nothing wrong with the interior as the cockpit style is great and very comfortable. Long trips are great.
I say it again there is no comparison with the Altima period.
so true. Drove both the vehicles, Maxima ride and steering is far luxurious than altima.
I really fail to understand why people complain about driving something with a CVT in it. You SERIOUSLY rarely feel any difference most of the time...unless you're driving like a maniac. Even then Nissan designed their CVTs with D-step tuning for a reason, they "mimic gears" at higher rpms. They don't even drone and scream like they used to. Sure, it's not true gears you're hearing but at least it not a constant 6,500 rpm whine either... Seriously, go watch a 0-60 run in a 2007 maxima--HUGE difference.
I own one. Bought it back in 16. It’s at 118K with its original CVT. No problems here, thankfully. I love it
@2009skyline how is the road noise on the highway? My coworker has a 2017 and the road noise seemed louder than my Mazda 3 Grand Touring. The Mazda gets tiring after a while. I want to be able to hear my music without having to crank it way up. Also want a fun and affordable car haha. Maybe I’m asking too much
Why didn’t you just get a Nissan S k y l i n e ? You really betrayed your username like that...
Is it reliable?
How is you Max holding up today? I am currently shopping for a 2016 SR
The SR Model is going to have a firmer and noiser ride because of the larger tires and sports suspension.
Alex nailed it. The "mid size" sedans are so competitive they have to get the best features and benefit from much higher volumes, so the larger sedans have little incremental benefit. Worse, people who want truly big get an SUV. Charger & 300 have a sales advantage because there is no obvious FCA mid size sedan to compete with them. Acura, Cadillac, Buick and Ford have all downsized their largest sedans and there may be more that follow.
I love everything about the way that car looks inside and out, but would never considering it for one reason: CVT.
Why do you not like the CVT? Have your driven one? I heard so many bad things about them, but then I decided to drive one and loved it! I had a 2012 Maxima with no issues !
They won't broke immediately but eventually they will around the time the warranty goes out. Just never buy them used.
@@backnu some people complain about the CVT and say because it breaks down after a while. Others I spoke to say that their Nissans (mainly Altimas) lasted over 150K-200K miles. In reality cars go as far as you take care of them.
And very simply put that is the same feeling many people have and is entirely Nissans fault. But my optimistic self is seeing a 2022 max with the frontier’s new v6 with a 9 or 7 speed
People love to repeat the old myth about CVTs. I'm still driving a 2005 Maxima and the CVT has not had a single problem. I love it!
I'm so thrilled to see this video posting - I just bought a Platinum Reserve Maxima (White w/ Rekuda Leather)... Absolutely in heaven with this car and all folks who get the chance to ride in it, love it and it has amazing looks. Thanks for posting Alex #NissanMaxima #AlexOnAutos
So happy to see you back on road. Appreciate your work from the heart :)
I have a '16 Maxima with 82,000 miles (bought it new), not one issue; change the CVT fluid every 60,000 miles and you will greatly reduce your worries (as the friction modifiers in the fluid get depleted) . Pulls like a train. Take it from a mechanical engineer. (I previously had an '07 Altima 3.5SE from new that had 170,000 miles).
I have a ‘13 Altima and I have never changed the transmission fluids and it has 246,000 miles on it. It still drives great.
How reliable is it ?
@@Therealpeter10 It's 2 yrs later, I now have 124K miles. Very reliable. Still pulls like a train.
@@mitchlu impressive. I want to buy a 2020 maxima. 30k miles. But so many negative reviews on cvt that idk. I want to have it for at least 10+ years
@@Therealpeter10 If you're worried about it, get an extended warranty from Nissan (not a 3rd party warranty company). Maybe I've been lucky. But I bought the Maxima because I previously had an '07 Altima 3.5SE with 170K miles.
As always a good review. I think though, maybe a reversal of title. The 2020 Maxima : the “grown up Altima”
He started out the video by telling us that the Maxima came first and the Altima was developed in the 90’s as a smaller sibling to it.
With the not so grown up CVT!!!
@@afcgeo882 Actually the Altima is just a renamed NISSAN STANZA!!!
Mary Robinson It’s true, the Altima is the US continuation of the Stanza/Bluebird line, but the Altima was designed and built in the US. In reality, both cars trace their roots to the Datsun 810 and Bluebird.
@@afcgeo882 You are so right Altima's 🔥 HOT DESIGN came along in what 2002. After that everyone fell in love with it..
the maxima needs to get back to the 4DSC thing that it once had
bird718 Yeah, but that’s not a thing, and never was.
those early 90s 4DSCs were great. I miss that night/day changing speedometer (black writing on silverishwhite in sun, white writing on black background at night). That V6 was so silkly smooth. I was young 20s driving my dad's 4DSC (either 1992 or 1994, can't recall) and you got to 80 and didn't even realize it. Nowadays thats more common with quiet, powerful sedans, but in the early 90s, no other mainstream sedan compared to the Nissan Maxima V6 4DSC...and it was a smooth MANUAL that my dad had. What a great car. It even had a BOSE stereo, when back in that time most factory radios were pretty bad. Granted BOSE isn't top of line, and today somewhat faux sound (too much alteration from true sound), but back then it was a such a great radio compared to other sedans.
From a 1992 Maxima SE review I found
"The instruments are unique. During the day the faces of the speedometer, tachometer and fuel gauge are white with black numbers. They reverse at night and are easily read."
"The Maxima SE is EPA-rated at 26 miles per gallon in highway driving and 21 mpg in the city. On a trip to West Palm Beach, the test car delivered nearly 29 mpg; in town, using the air conditioner, I got 23 mpg of regular unleaded.
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"The Maxima SE suffers from none of the maladies common to many high-performance front-wheel-drive cars. There’s no trace of torque steer, a slight pulling to the left or right when accelerating. Even under heavy acceleration, the front wheels pull straight."
A manual transmission would go a long way on this car.
There is only 1 Max.. it's an amazing time to be a car enthusiast. Alex you do a great job on the reviews
Platinum Maxima 😍👌🏽
Excellent review as always, Alex!
Go Platinum or Go Home!
If they made this a true 8-10 speed auto and a sporty version it would sell. That V6 is powerful
I had the last gen maxima and that 3.5 V6 never disappointed, just fun to drive and lean on for passing,
Clearly already sells if you didn’t hear him say it outsells all competition? But okay lol.
That’s very true. Shame they won’t do it. Nissan is so deep into those horrendous jatco CVT’s it’s a sin.
Dakota Daniel In 2019 Nissan sold 35,076 Maximas, FCA sold 96,935 Chargers, GM sold 44,978 Impalas, and Toyota sold 27,767 Avalons, so it’s not like Nissan was the leader in its class. With the cancellation of the Taurus and Impala and failure of the Cadenza, Maxima is one of very few choices, but it’s likely that those departures will benefit Toyota more, with its AWD and hybrid options.
Bjorn Ironsides “Scotty parrot” 😂😂
I didn't buy a new Maxima because of CVT. When buying a premium sedan I except better performance than a CVT can give.
This will be my dream car!! Nice job Alex.
I have a 2017 SL and I love it. Wish it had the "quad exhaust" over the dual exhaust mine has but I still prefer the front end on mine. Great car if you want a pseudo-premium family sedan with some character
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Maxima even for its age feels way more premium than altima or accord or camry.. maxima does everything well, amazing seats, amazing cockpit, tons of features, sporty yet comfy ride etc...the car just brings you joy and mentally satisfies you in every way unlike regular midsize sedans that are simply “ohh look just another altima” and unlike luxury sedans where u gotta pay tons of money to get similar features for the badge
Alex.. can you also please review the audio system? How it sounds and compares to other makes/models in the same category?
Another great review Alex! I actually went with the Cadenza after doing this exact cross shop between Maxima-Altima-Cadenza-Buick. At the end of the day it was the 8-speed auto and the 10 yr warranty that sold the Cadenza for me, also getting it almost 9k below sticker helped...That's the thing about all of these "near-full size" near-luxury sedans, they're just sitting on dealer lots, burning dealer pockets. So if you do manage to find one these out on a lot, you're going to be limited in terms of trim level and options (e.x. I couldn't opt for the highest trim Cadenza and had to settle with the technology trim just because the only dealer that had a limited trim was almost 500 miles away and I'm in the greater Chicago area...so go figures how hard it'd be to find in smaller car markets? But the Cadenza I bought was 2019 pre-refresh model so it had probably already sat on the dealer lot for a good 12 months when I picked it up. The same was true for the maxima I was cross shopping.) So these main stream car manufacturers are going to need a lot of convincing before they'll put out a true full size near luxury sedan because of the cost of R&D and the probability that the dealers will just buy one for their showroom. Speaking of which, Kia's K900 seems to fit that bill exactly. All of the ones available in my market are 2019 models and some even have a few thousand miles on them because the dealer can't move them so they all became dealer daily cars.
First time seeing your review. It's good!
How come you don’t use a combined headroom rating?
Nissan has had an identity crisis between the Altima and Maxima since 2009. The Altima has always been within 5% of the size of the Maxima and offered most of its features. The only major difference this time is the Altima went with a turbo 4 vs continuing with the ubiquitous VQ. Nissan should have developed the Maxima into a niche vehicle similar to the Stinger w/ RWD but not really a "luxury" car(to protect the Q50), but more of a true Charger competitor. The Altima is a really good car which really makes the current Maxima obsolete.
Who cares about Infiniti anymore? Nissan is the way to go
Definitely agree with a lot of your statements. I've driven the Avalon and Maxima in my company fleet. I still think I prefer the Maxima. Every time I take one home, people always look and notice it on the road in the midst of all the Chevy Equinox's and other boring crossovers. I like the coziness of the interior, I wish the infotainment display had better resolution, and even though it is fast and enjoy putting my foot down, the CVT after a while just kinda makes it a little boring. Shifting to the 2nd simulated gear than putting your foot down though really lets you feel the acceleration power of it and it is good. I've not driven a top trim Avalon Touring, only the XLE and I'm not a fan of the gear spacing in the 8 speed. Second gear takes a huge dip in RPM and really slows acceleration after that. I hope they do not discontinue the Maxima though. If they just gave it a traditional automatic, AWD, a better res and faster infotainment screen, and a bit more room in the back and trunk, I think that would do wonders for the sales.
Love my 2017 SR! The refresh is a nice touch.
How is you Max holding up today? I am currently shopping for a 2016 SR
@forestdezore1728 Perfectly fine at 90,000 miles!
i am a nissan owner and dont get the shift paddles on the CVTs.
The only use I've found is controlling engine braking on downhill descents. Worked wonders getting off Mount Washington while everyone else was burning up their brakes! A single L gear is usually not good enough.
It’s so you can force a down-shift, just like on an automatic. There’s no point to them on automatics either.
Just for looks really
George L how do you downshift with 0 gears
iPadGameWalkthrough You can shift the pulley ratio instead of the gear ratio. Do not know how CVTs work at all?
Come through updated graphics 👏🏾
I think there's nothing wrong with CVT, many companies are starting to use them. HOWEVER I think the manufacturer of the CVT is the issue here.
So interesting that it looks so much better than a lot of the competition.
So you think this looks worse than the Avalon mug?.
Especially in gray with the SR trim. Shit looks beast
Really? Its way passed its prime. CVT, over priced, starting at $34k and it depreciates like a rock in one year. Mazda 6 all the way.
@Wojak Feels Mazda depreciates too, but is still much more reliable than Nissan. That's why I'm looking at a preowned 2020 Mazda3.
loving my 16 Platinum my only issue is the auto shifting in manual mode but mostly wanted that 300 hp v6. Didn't want a 2 liter turbo
How is you Max holding up today? I am currently shopping for a 2016 SR
@@forestdezore1728 well Unfortunately the Maxima was getting high in miles and old so i replaced it a year ago with a 23 Altima SV the new maxima they wanted $50,000
You are wrong on two things , there is no turbo 4 in the Camry , And the maxima is faster than the Avalon , v6 Dodge Charger , faster the the VW , And most based cars in its class
That’s true I’ve seen races against v6 chargers and the maxima smokes them
The reason it sells well is 5 letters...FLEET. Pick a “premium” at one of the big 3 rental companies and this is what will be waiting. Plus the Impala is gone now...
That’s it. I’m renting one right now from Enterprise. The 2-speed CVT in this thing does the car so much disservice. I was in a V6 Charger GT before this, a car that weighs 500lbs more than the Maxima, and it somehow felt lighter and more peppy despite the identical power output because the CVT in the Maxima mutes the experience so much. It’s rough.
Good review & great Nissan.
The Kia Stinger would be my choice. Better performance, features, RWD(AWD option), no CVT, practical, value, and 10 year warranty. The refreshed 2021 Stinger is expected to have 300hp on base model! It would also be nice to see you include a dynamics/feel and overall score for the class on your ratings.
😂 KIAs which usually have engine problems at 100,000 miles. 😂
Magnesium shift paddles to shift a gearless transmission...This sums up this car perfetly. Get rid of the junk Jatco CVT, get a lsd, and lose the "4DSC" badge. Kia Stinger over this all day. Hell an Avalon TRD is a better version of this and it will be dead reliable unlike the Nissan
The sunset drift is one of my favorite colors on the Maxima. You can’t beat the look of the Maxima, it’s a beautiful car, the lines are exceptional. This is the color I would own if I owned a Maxima.
I think one of the biggest issues with the whole Altima/Maxima is their staggered redesigned cycles. There's always a period of time where the Altima is fresher than the Maxima... and we're currently in that window where we are comparing a refreshed Maxima to an all new Altima. Even still, I think the Maxima, overall, just offers a relatively more premium experience. From my experience, the Maxima just seems more substantial, for example, the Maxima's door seals are very wide and made the car more tank like. Also there is no reduction in materials quality in the rear of the Maxima (which is something new to the Altima with this gen). The Maxima just lacks in features at the moment because it's a gen behind the Altima.
Damn I wish Nissan could get their stuff together especially when it comes to reliability and they use CVTs but gas mileage is so good with the 8,9 and 10 speeds it's time the drop them it's a great looking and sounding car lost behind a Nissan badge and Nissan lack of direction such a same. Alex keep up the great work man and I pray you and your family are safe in these crazy times
Simply don't buy one or watch videos on nissan because the CVT is not going away because they own a large stake in Jatco..
That exhaust note got me like..... 🤑
I am a bit more particular for the pre refresh, but I love the Maxima
Now that the US makers won't have a 4 door sedan to sell, rental fleets will need this car.
Pedro Fernandez not cheap enough, that’s why they get base model camrys, sonatas, etc.
Fleet car sales will drop big time though.
I love Nissan despite the Hate
Despite the hate, the only Nissan vehicle I would buy is the Murano!
Like I have always said, "those saboteurs including some 'reviewers' can't for us to hate what we love."
Best engine soundtrack , best steering wheel , best seats , best looking sedan , best colors combo... but I wonder how they’ll get out of bankruptcy without questioning their transmissions .Even if the jatco trany are more reliable than before, I believe that the stigma of nissan on this subject is irrevocable : they should offer reliable dct ... if it happens or simply conventional automatic even to the detriment of fuel economy .
Hahaha, my G37 is over 155k miles and no problems with the engine or transmission. Buddy’s Maxima on the other hand... Nissan lost its soul...
@@wyw201 the maxima is literally a regular automatic away from perfection
I have a 2016 Nissan Maxima SR, with custom coniac leather and Swede. Mine also has the wide 245/55R19 tires and rims. My font end grill is also nicer and more aggressive looking then this 2020, but maybe that orange is deceiving and mine is all black.
I don’t know what you talking about
My Maxima Roll I mass on it & it just Performs
Not gonna lie, it looks pretty good!
A huge bonus with the Maxima is that VQ35 engine.
Can’t name one reason to get any Nissan over competition. No wonder you kept saying “if you’re looking for a Nissan
It looks amazing
Hey Alex, I'd love to get your opinion on the Maxima as a used car. I bought a 2017 Maxima SL new back in 2016, and I think it's been a great overall car, and a huge addition with apple car play if you have an iPhone. There was no Android Auto on the 2017 Max.
I have 67,000 miles, and i honestly love this car and I absolutely recommend it as a used car purchase. It's a great overall car, amazing gas mileage (I get on average 26mpg, and the highest I've had is 33 for highway) for a v6.
I'm not lying to myself and saying its a true sports car, but its a great car overall and would recommend to anyone on the used market.
However, everyone bashes the CVT and I honestly think most people have an opinion without ever having the opportunity to drive this car. Would you recommend this car used? Also what's your opinions about the CVT overall reliability on the Maxima? I've never had issues with mine, and I believe the CVT in the Maxima is different than the one in the older rogue/sentras
FamousWithoutBrad The CVT problem is less pronounced with the Maxima, but considering it still has the problems and that CVTs are almost always impossible to repair, buying a used Maxima is a poor proposition. That’s not even considering that many are simply abused because of their 300hp engines.
You’re better off buying one new or freshly off-lease and changing the CVT fluid every 30k miles while babying it.
I owned an altima 3.5SE with the CVT from brand new for 7 years and 117k miles on it. I loved the V6 and CVT. The v6 was amazing once it was warm. When it was ice cold it sounded like a tractor motor very unrefined and rough but once it got warm it was as smooth as silk and the cvt worked perfectly with it. I do recommend servicing your cvt at the recommended intervals but I believe as long as you don't abuse it and maintain it that it will last a good long while. You have a 2017 and a lot of the problems from the Jatco cvts were from the early models. Nissan has had plenty of time to re-engineer the transmission and work out all the bugs. I think you are safe like I said as long as you keep the vehicle serviced meticulously. I would not hesitate to buy one of that model year or newer. They are well made. At least that was my experience with that motor and cvt combo. And your 2017 has the newly updated V6 with over 60% new parts. Its said to be a lot smoother and a lot more refined!
How is you Max holding up today? I am currently shopping for a 2016 SR
@@forestdezore1728 Still going strong. I drive a lot and Im at 123k miles, and no major issues.
Im religious with oil changes and transmission maintenance.
The only issue I’ve ever had was that a check engine light came on within the last two months. Ran the code at Autozone and it was the Mass Air Flow sensor. Extremely easy to access and just bought the cleaning spray which was under $20.
@@forestdezore1728Also, I’d highly recommend going for a 2017 and higher if you use apple CarPlay.
The infotainment is extremely dated, but I use apple CarPlay in my car all the time now. Apple CarPlay became a feature for the 2017 maxima and onward
Exactly what I did- went in for the Maxima and ended up leaving with the new Altima!
Good V6 + CVT makes me sad
me too, in fact Nissan makes me sad. They had a nice nitch in late 80s and early 90s...they devolved into odd looking, bulbous designs, crappiest transmissions on the planet and fugly interiors. The interiors have gotten better, at least compared to others that keep getting worse. Suburu is terrible now, Toyota has that ugly swoopy look, reminds me of Ford when it went OVAL crazy (or was it female focused unmanly crazy)?
Ghosn REALLY did them in...and I suppose the CEO before him as well. They took a mainstream turn for the worse in mid to late 90s.
They REALLY need to go back to basics and go after the younger, sporty crowd but with buttoned down looks not painful, clown-show looks. The Murano I tested looked like a normal SUV/CUV that had been stung by 1000 hornets. FUGLY. NICE front seats, but that was about all I liked...besides the salesman offering more than 10k off the price. They can't give Nissans away these days. DO NOT PAY anything close to full price on one, you should get it for 75% of sticker price, no matter the model.
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ovp66223 Not all is bad during the Ghosn era, my G37 is still running with no issues after 155k miles. Nissan just needs to focus on engineering again instead of marketing.
Great V6 + very good CVT makes me extremely happy with my '17 Max. I bought it because the Impala did not have a CVT, and I was coming from a 150,000 mile '07 Altima; another wonderful performer.
Even though this vehicle is 8” shorter than the charger how much different is the front seat legroom and more importantly the rear seat legroom?
It is tight in there im 5'8 and feel scrunched up. But in an altima it feels more roomy
@@aayonce4 You is definitely a lier I'm 6'3 and I fit very comfortably in the Max and the Altima front and back.
Why hate on CVT so much?
They are smooth comfortable and makes you go faster than a normal gear
Spare me the CVT will break comments
Every car has it pros and cons
Ramin Rzgar ...Well said....
I concur! We have a murano Cross Cab with the v6 cvt combo that thing takes off from 40-80 smooth effortless torque curve
The CVT is awesome and does not deserve its bad reputation. Too many people just repeat the criticism without having personal experience.
In general cvts are fine. It’s who makes them is the issue here. I haven’t heard JATCO CVTs being really as reliable long term as a Toyota or Honda cvt
If this were an Aisin (toyota) CVT I wouldn’t have any complaints because that cvt will last
I had these as rentals.... the CVT really isn't that bad.
I’ve heard nothing but maintenance problems for CVTs from past owners. No thanks.
What scares me away from this is nissian Reliability so I would prefer a Honda Accord or a Toyota Avalon over this or tbh a Toyota Camry XSE tbh
Great review and love the french poodle comment
JATCO CVT = Nope. A family member owns a 9 year old Avalon. Its very Lexus like and its bulletproof reliability. Much more rear seat leg and headroom too....
Avalon is the top choice in V6, AWD or Hybrid .
Alex, People looking for smoothness and luxury in this segment would be better served by a #43mpg Avalon Hybrid.
Audi A6 way better
Thanks for this. I just realized today that I have remote start. I've been driving my Maxima for over a year. OOF..
Great review!
I disagree with your CVT complaint. I know you're not a big fan, but there's nothing worse than an automatic car that has a delay when using the paddles. The CVT has an instant response, similar to a DCT without the crispness. Take an Accord or an Acura. Using those paddles are awful! There's a noticable delay. So until those transmissions start shifting manually like they have a purpose, I'd rather have the CVT than a conventional auto.
You do know that those paddle shifters do nothing on a CVT right? What you are sensing when actuating them is "simulated shifting". Basically the engine computer simulating the revs of a typical automatic transmission. The CVT keeps the engine in an agreeable powerband as much as possible. That means very minute drops in RPM when under load.
Also, try the paddles on a ZF unit like those found in BMW, or Audi, and other German brands. I assure you there is no hunting, or delay in power delivery. Don't even get me started on a dual clutch, *which is what this Max should have come standard with*
This needs a competitive rebuild so much today!
It's amazing how often people cross shop the Maxima with BMWs and Audis. In my mind it makes sense but also is a problem for Infiniti.
Infiniti has been in an identify crisis for years. Same with Acura and partially Lexus. They're mainstream counterparts have gotten so upscale in recent years that the line for differentiation has gotten very narrow.
V6 accord and Turbo Camry? I think you got those revrsed
One can always argue safety equipment is more important but I disagree with your statement that reverse auto braking is more important than adaptive cruise control. First off you can get cars for massively less than the Maxima that have adaptive cruise as standard in multiple trims so what’s Nissan’s justification for being last in class? Second if you live anywhere with traffic you know what a huge plus adaptive cruise is. It’s literally something many use every day.
So I hear Nissan is switching their CVT equipped Pathfinder to a 9 speed for the next generation. I hope Nissan seriously considers putting it in the Maxima. It’s desperately needed!
True, that would probably help them quite a bit.
According to the spec sheets the Altima is bigger inside/outside
I liked the style, but the Platinum was too expensive for its performance and lack of awd. I got the Stinger and have no regrets yet because it's faster, better in bad weather and has more utility with the trunk. But I do like the looks of the Maxima a lot.
Better car for sure
Oh yes, definitely! I test drove both back to back. The power, acceleration and overall feel is far above the Altima.
You drove the 2.0t altima? They barely have them on dealer lots.
@@occckid123 I haven't seen a single one on the road yet. I've seen plenty of the non-turbo models. You can tell them apart because the 2.0 models have the VC-Turbo badge on the back.
@@occckid123 I tried to find one for the life of me I couldn't find one so I settled for a SL AWD no regrets it's a nice car plenty of room and enough pickup for normal daily city driving. Great fuel economy for a car it's size.
Exactly. The Altima just isn’t premium. Never was intended to be.
@@JokerG16 all they need 2 do is give it the same treatment that they give 2 it oversees and it would be a little nicer. Why the fudge did they get rid of the soft panels on the back doors compared to last generation?.why no dual panel.roof heads up display and quilted leather seats like other countries? Its available!!!
Great review as always, but my paddle shifting poodle was offended... and tell Amber, I hope you save her lights...
i haven’t heard alex say “shift paddles on a french poodle” in a long time 😂
I love my Black on Black SR Maxima 2019
I think comparing to an Infiniti would’ve been interesting due to the discounts that can probably be had.
I have the Q50. The Maxima feels amazing and the engine note has more growl than the Q50 turbo V6. But the Q50 is smoother, faster and has much better traction when accelerating. The Q50 also had better rear headroom.. Honestly though, the Maxima is still an amazing car.
The Nissan Maximas made in the 1990s and 2000s are still on the road. The late 1990s Maximas were the most reliable.
The 2000's max has more rust than the 80"s and 90"s max. 80"s & 90"s max= best max.
the front of this vehicle looks so confusing. nissan needs the hire a different lead designer.
The pinnacle of the Maxima was the 95-99 model. Each model after that was a slow fall from grace with poorer build quality (especially 2004+) and less overall refinement.
13:00. V6 Accord and 2.0L Turbo Camry??? 🤔🤔
i was wondering the same thing
If the Camry were turbo, I would have never bought mine.
Two words. JATCO CVT.
End of story
Also no pros and cons of the Avalon?
Only reason I don't have one. Even if it had an older 6sd auto I would buy one in a heartbeat.
And the shame of it is that the Jatco traditional autos aren't terrible...my Titan has nearly 270k miles on it and the Jatco 5 speed auto transmission is rock solid, despite cooling lines leaking on me while driving and losing more trans oil than I should have nealry 100k miles ago
This transmission has not been problematic.
ATX Trent Exactly Lol people are just haters. That was literally a design flaw that’s been fixed years ago. My 16’ Altima has 73k trouble free miles. Don’t have any reason to believe I will any time soon neither besides haters 🤷🏻♂️
@@NissanAltimaGuy call me a hater I don't care. I just dont like cvts. Even Alex doesnt care for them. If I'm getting an automatic I want it to feel like a torque converter one. I dont care for dual-clutch ones either. Guess I'm a hater of those too?🤷♂️ either way I dont care what others think. I will buy what I want. It's just a shame as I like the rest of the car.
Maxima Always is Better than an Altima
More horsepower two sun roofs, LED lights , heat & cooling seats & more
This still my first Nissan sedan I can buy one.
@5:06 I think you meant this is the reason you buy a Maxima over the Altima.
Are you trying to say a Camry is faster than a Maxima ?
They’re identical in performance
5:07 You mean Maxima over Altima? 🤔
I like the orange
I kinda wish the Japanese brands would make their "large" cars appreciably larger than their midsize offerings. I feel like they'd make a better case for their price premium if the Avalon or Maxima had a 117-120" wheelbase, for example.
Sub compact and compact sedans are ok with a CVT. However, there's just no place in the mid and full size vehicles.
I don't understand all the fuss over the CVT on this Maxima. I've driven a new Maxima and you only feel the downside of this CVT is when you accelerate really hard, but in normal everyday driving its just fine.
if it compete with the lexus es 350 f sport the ES is better
Orange is a good color.
Nice car for us, as usual we from Asian side wonder about these kind of vehicles because our specifications totally different from Western market..😁😁
I find the newest designs of the Maxima are terrible. This used to be one of the hottest cars to own. Same song with the Altima and I used to own one. Nissan's build quality has always been below Honda and Toyota and at this point, Kia and Hyundai.
Had an 1988 Maxima , loved that thing. Had great styling and was fast and comfortable. . would've still had it , if it hadn't been t boned while park. Came out the morning to find the driver side pushed in. Broke my soul. I agree with the new max being ugly. It has no redeeming feature other than the floating roof.
The 2015 Chrysler 300c platinum you reviewed is a pure luxury car.
30-40% of Dodge Charger sales are to fleet customers, like Avis, Budget rental cars, etc
Probably, among retail shoppers, they are pretty close in sales.
Avis/Budget is one company and in reality, they buy almost as many Maximas as Chargers. I used to be a manager for them. You’d be surprised just how many people love the Charger in rural areas of the country. The fleet sales are in reality less than 20% and the biggest buyers are government fleets (mostly police).
Maxima/Altima is likely 50% fleet. So many of them are always available when I am there picking up cars weekly for work. Chargers have a big rental fleet, but don't forget law enforcement. Retail sales are still way higher than the Maxima though. The Altima cannibalizes the Maxima, especially in higher SR/Platinum trims, which look really good.
HellKitty 101 50%? lol No. Maybe 10-15%, regardless of what you see at a rental location. They’re not THAT common. Nissan sold 35k Maximas in the US in 2019. Maybe 4k or so went to rental fleets, but likely closer to 2k. The three majors buy some basic trims. The discount rental companies don’t. They’re still running older Tauruses and Impalas. Considering that the big three aren’t buying almost any cars in 2020, you’ll still see them around.
The Maxima is pointless in its current form. Nissan has long billed the Maxima as a four door sports car, but in reality it's just a V6 Altima. It is destined to die an unceremonious death whenever Nissan decides to retire the current generation.
It still has a purpose in the lineup and can therefore be saved if Nissan is willing to make the investments necessary for it. They need to make it an actual four door sports car. Z-Car inspired styling, more sport-tuned suspension, RWD/AWD, V6, liftback, nix the CVT in favor of a DCT or Manual. Basically make it a competitor to the Kia Stinger. If necessary, ditch the Q60 and let the Maxima cannibalize that car's sales. At the same time, raise the price, lower the production volume, and let the higher-end Altima gobble up some of the Maxima's lower end sales. Make it unique and exclusive, and it will have a place in the lineup. Maybe not a volume-seller (Anything not an SUV won't be), but it will be a (limited) success.
Nissan is struggling as a company and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to have the Altima and Maxima to exist at the same time. Not enough differentiation. Nissan needs to address the reliability of those Jatco CVTs to stay in business. So many of us have grown up loving Nissan but it seems like they have lost their way.
the current generation jatco CVTS are proving to be more reliable than the previous generation.
Sales numbers aren't that cut and dry Chargers and Maximas have way more fleet sales than Avalons. FCA is also among the lowest (if not the lowest) rated auto brands in reliability, so they sell their jank cars for super cheap.
Same goes for Nissan when it comes to Japanese cars. Not known for reliability, and sold at deep discounts compared to Toyota.
You get what you pay for.
Agreed.
@Bjorn Ironsides Had a 1988 Maxima up until 2017. Would've still had it, if it hadn't got t-boned.
Lol you said v6 accord and 2.0 camry!!!
I know.....
Alex on Autos in another timeline
Maxi for me.