Russian Traitor - My Story
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Hello Ivan, thank you for sharing your experience in your life. I am 90 years old and lived during world war 2 in Germany and found out how senseless wars are. After the war I moved to America where I am happier. I do not think, that ordinary Americans hate ordinary Russians - we all want to live in peace with everybody in this world and should convince our governments to think the same.
You know a lot about human nature. I have a granddaughter your age. You should be a diplomat❤
Hello Ivan. Thank you for sharing. This is the second time I write a comment. This time I will subscribe because I can understand you better. I don't watch every video because the food and cars are not interesting for me. I am just glad that you are indeed a diplomat. 😊. I wish you the best even if I really don't like your country anymore. I learned the language in the past. I visited the country. I am so sad about this craziness.
God Bless You ,Wow You’ve been through a lot!! I too do not believe in war just Love,Peace and God, I live in USA and study a lot about history,You have seen so much,and lived through it,You should start your own UA-cam Channel and share what You have seen and been through 🙂 take care God Bless !
Yup, I see that here too, in Canada. I have a neutral perspective on ordinary Russian people.
We live in dangerous times. The economy is already at the brink of recession. It wouldn't take much to tip that scale towards chaos.
Except u cant reason with people who think theyre always right. i. e. Putin.
We, in Seattle Washington, are so privileged to see and hear from an incredible person from Russia. Hope and pray there are many more humans like yourself in your country. ❤
Ivan is extremely charismatic. Really has an aura . Quick thinking and observant . A remarkable young man . I can see him going places .
I'm in bonney lake not too far
Also, in Seattle watching.. Everett
HA!! I’ve lived in Seattle, Everett AND Bonney Lake 🎉💥🙌🏻🔥👍🏻😃!!
Ivan thanks for sharing your story. I’m a 58 year old black American woman who finds your content very inspiring and informative.
I am an average white American, I am 68. With very little investigation you realize we are all just people. It’s governments that cause all the social disorders.
I appreciate your openmindness Tracey.. cheers
You’re a good Russian, Ivan, and a good man. You give me some hope for Russia.
You do realize that most people across the world are good people? It is the psychopaths in power and $$$ that divide the world and make it insane as that is how they get their power.
75 MILLION VOTED FOR PUTIN 😎
PEOPLE LIKE IVAN WILL ONLY RUIN RUSSIA
NATO BOT: "YOUR A GOOD RUSSIAN" = TRAITOR
No such thing.
He left Russia....
I love how your dialect slips from Russian to Irish and back. It's delightful. Thank you for sharing your life with the world. May you find nothing but success and peace.
I'm 3rd generation American of Ukrainian decent.. I like your uncensored views and real insight into what life is like. Keep doing what your doing!!!
The so called "Ukraine" formed in 1991 with VERY dubious claims to even its validatity. So its impossible for you to be "of Ukrainian descent". BTE my family is from Kiev.
Ivan I am from wexford in ireland , you sound like a paddy with a Russian twist , the first video I saw of you was the review of macdonalds and the supermarket and I had no idea what you were all about . This video clears up all my questions . All the best yo you and stay safe . Keep up producing good content.
Excellent! I am an old American from down South living in Shizuoka, Japan. When I say OLD I mean I was of the protest/hippie generation. I whole-heartedly agree with increasing the peace.
Wow. that makes you part of the silent generation...if you are 79+
I want the Stop to Intimidation, I am close to Your age.......
@@johnyoung1606 I also want the "Stop the regime change, coupe de etat" like Vicky Nuland and her likes are doing around the world
Whatcha doing in Japan?
Sort of live off m'wife, but too my retirement job is doin' radio like a DJ @@dewilew2137
Hey Ivan I’m an old guy from California, I didn’t really know what you were about , until you did this show now I have a lot more respect for you just be careful out there .
Ivan, I have eight well used ASIC miners if you want them (they heated up the whole house). Watching you over time I had learned bits and pieces of your history, but I really appreciate you being so open with your supporters. I always thought you were a decent person, but now that I have more of the story you have earned my respect even more. Part of what first caught the attention of my wife and I was how much you look like our son (he's a little older than you). As a Dad I feel really sorry for your father, he has missed out on one of the best relationships life has to offer. He has a very remarkable son who most men would be proud to have raised. I can understand why your Irish family took you into their hearts. As for your biological father, I would guess he has some trauma or personal issue that keeps him from being able to maintain a relationship. You are wise in your handling of that situation. We all collect some damage in life. For some people the injury defines them, but people like you are smart enough to put things in perspective and continue building their life. Not only are you caring for yourself and Evelina, but also your Mom and your sister. That's what real men do. We're proud to know you Ivan, if you're ever in the U.S. you're welcome in our home. - R.W. and family
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Ivan, this is your best video so far. I was wondering about some of the things you mentioned and now they are answered. I wish you peace and prosperity and hope that you don't get caught up in the conflict. Russia will need people like you after this is all over to recover. It will take many decades but I hope it becomes part of the wider world in the future. You guys were so close....then.
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I agree with this post but I also urge you to get out of Russia as quickly as you can. You’re not safe in Russia now that the old ”Iron Curtain” is coming back. Imagine yourself in Germany back In 1939 while Adolf Hitler was consolidating his power. Would you have stayed knowing what the result will be
Ivan praying for you and your safety,stay strong 🙏
Dude, you are awesome. Do what you do and don't pay attention to the haters. BTW I am a 57 year old American (Polish and Irish), my wife and I adopted our son from Russian in 1998. We spent a few months in Moscow at that time. I wish we could go back and visit again. Your videos help scratch that itch. Thank you my friend. Good life to you.
As someone who has been with you from the beginning of this channel, I already know most of this story. I am always impressed by the amount of patience and openness you have with the public, especially for someone your age. You are a good man Ivan, just keep being you.
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Talk to these people he grifted off of when he was in turkey. He kept telling everyone it was none of their business when asked about his life in russia. Why is he the only Russian who's not afraid to talk about his country when others are in fear? I dont believe a word hes saying!Never have. I believe that people can make a difference. You have to work hard at what you do no matter what it is in life. Not wanting to work isn't one of them! He lives in Moscow
. He has been back since turkey and hasn't worked! One 20k subscribers isn't a lot of money to live off of! He was reported from a lot of followers from his grifting. Taking money from AMERICANS. That's a lot of his followers. Sorry, but I don't and will not believe his BS!
@@Unknown5925- He hasn't grifted off anyone. He does work. If you dislike him so much why are you watching him?
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Umm, yes, he has! Obviously, you didn't see the comments when he moved back to Russia, and the ones who supported him were very angry with the lies he told! PERIOD!
@@Unknown5925- I am one of the people who supported him and I've never had a reason to be angry. Again, why are you here if you don't like him?
Excellent vlog, Ivan. I’m so glad to know your story! So fascinating. You are a great person with a big ❤. (Especially for cats!) Your perspective offers great insight for all of us around the world. I’ve enjoyed watching you from your beginning. Keep being you! Thank you and Evelina for being real people!❤
Ivan, it's always good to be good and you're a good guy. You are one of the best diplomats that Russia has today. Bless you, Ewelina, and the cats.
About your father. My father was in State prison (US) for 10 years from when I turned 3 to age 13. It's a bit different because my father actually did want to interact with me, but it wasn't really until I was age 14 but let me tell you it wasn't easy. I'm glad you had a proper father figure, I did not have that until I was older..my stepfather was not a good man. It did take it's toll on me and it took a while before I leveled out. You did good. People are proud of me, well I am proud of you for what that is worth.
Hey Ivan, many of us are your fans. I truly wish our countries could enjoy peace. Stay safe and stay positive.
Hello from the USA Ivan 👋 I'm not a fan of Putin but I'm a fan of yours! I love your sense of humor 🤣 So glad your channel is taking off!
Hi Ivan, a few weeks ago, I wrote acomment saying that there was more to you than meets the eye. Your english is superb and it is colloquial english. I knew you didn't learn it in only a classroom environment. Your video has affirmed my thoughts. You did get your english in Ireland because I hear your pronunciation of the name "Ireland". Most Irish pronounce it "Aarland" just as you do.😊
Ivan, You are a champion.Greetings to you and your lovely lady from Queensland Australia.We absolutely love your sense of humour.
Another lady from Queensland ❤😂
Queenslander too.
Don’t end up dead.. truth kills in Russia. Love the channel
Thank you for pouring your heart out Ivan, I wish you continued success in 2024 and in God's good time, this damn war will end and you and Evelina will move on to bigger and better things. You have built a network of friends all over the world and some day soon, that effort will pay off... God bless you and Evelina, always...
Thank you Ivan for sharing alittle about yourself. I often wondered about your mom and Dad but would never pry into your personal life. I would like to say that it takes more to being a father than just the title. It's your father's loss. If people walk away from you...let them walk. They weren't meant to be apart of your life. Your a wonderful person with the kindest soul. I admire you for just...being...you! I'm happy I came across your channel. From miles and miles away...you touched my heart. Evelina is also a kind soul. Enjoy watching you both! ❤❤❤😊
I am with Ukrainian women and children here. They are sad and their homes are being bombed. My Ukrainian friend also has her father here. He has had to travel from Ukraine across Europe because of the bombs raining down on his home. He is suffering from Parkinson's disease and is very delicate. I don't hate anyone but understand the suffering that is being caused by this barbarianism. Putin is sending in the weakest troops who are the inexperienced soldiers with spotters to draw enemy fire . They are being mown down as there's no artillery protection for them. The elite troops can then take action and battle with the Ukrainians. At Avdivka alone the death toll for Russian troops is above 40,000 .I have not heard numbers for a couple of days. Going on for 400,000 dead Russian soldiers dead since the beginning of this "Special Operation". Avdivka is still not in Russian hands!!! In St Petersburg 3000 migrant workers were rounded up . 600 were illegal. They were sent away to who knows where. I can see why so much bitterness is beginning to be felt towards people, millions of them, allow this to go on.
@gloriahoulihan8717 🙏❤️ I pray for peace. I truly believe that in all countries there are good people that don't want to be defined as to who they are...no matter what country they live in, by their governments. I prayer for all men, women and children in Ukraine who have endured horrific, unimaginable living conditions from this war.❤️🙏
I think people are being a little brainwashed into sending Ivan money in his live streams. He’s been given a great start and fantastic opportunities. He went to school overseas, owns an apartment in the capital city at the age of 24, eats out everyday and is now living his grandparents lovely country cabin. He’s managed to turn it into a sad story and lots of people donate on his live streams. I wish him all the best making money from his videos and adverts but he seems to have brainwashed people into donating lots of money.
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You're going places Ivan, keep at it! Cheers from the States! 🇷🇺 🇺🇲
We love you Ivan and love that you're getting to do your dream job. I love your outlook on life.
I watch you all the time from way down here in South Australia.
You should be President of Russia.
Just wear your seatbelt all the time. 😂❤❤
I found your channel by accident and after watching a few episodes, I realize what a gem you are. Thanks for sharing your story. I have met a few Russians in my 70 years and came to the realization that Russians and Americans as a people have more in common than we would like to admit. It's the governments that mess everything up. Wishing you all the best and hoping that you stay safe. 👍
Hello and best wishes from Canada . My husband and I are retired and we so enjoy you posts. Stay safe and thanks!
You have grown up on your own terms, bravo. Life is the best teacher. I am 86 years old and I also learned from life.
I really enjoyed hearing your story. Some of it I had picked up along the way because I have followed your channel for awhile...but you filled in a few blanks. You've lived a very interesting life. You were fortunate to grow up with such a great family in Ireland. Keep the videos coming!
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Ivan, You have a family here in the UNITED STATES for sure.. Love your videos.
I'm from Houston, Texas, but I speak Russian and have been to Moscow many times. I was last in Moscow on New Year's 2022. I always found Russian people very kind when you speak face to face. (I don't understand the mean street look.) I think you have an American accent with a little of the Russian thrown in. I would never have guessed you learned English in Ireland. (Except for when you actually say Ireland.)
It must be difficult for a young person in Russia now. I hope your career as a UA-camr is successful and I will always try to give you likes and drop comments to help get you out in UA-cam land. (I already subscribed.)
Best of luck Ivan. Ты хороший человек.
Congrats! Very well balanced presentation. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Norway UA RU NO
Thank you for sharing your story; you are a shining example of someone who never let obstacles stand in your path to achieve your goals. Blessings to you, your family, Evelina, and your sweet cats!
Just be yourself Ivan 🎉
Love your channel Ivan! You should visit cool or abandoned places in Russia. Old Soviet towns would be interesting too. Would love to see you do more travel stuff!
Thank you very much! Heck yeah we will do it. Right now it’s minus 24 Celsius (really cold) 🥶 once it gets just a little warmer we will do it!
Long live freedom of speech ❤
Your a good person with an interesting life is why I watch your channel Ivan, just keep on doing what your doing.
Very interesting story, perhaps a short bio on your home info may attract more subs? You are one of the best English speaking foreigner without an accent that I have heard! Mike England
This was an awesome vlog, Ivan. Probably the most interesting vlog you've produced. I, too, am astounded by your level of maturity. You bring us a window to Russia that we would never be able to see, and it is much appreciated. In fact YOU are much appreciated. (as well as Evelina and that sausage lovin' Eduard). Please continue what you're doing, you do it well and with compassion.
The truth is 100% working for you!!
Ivan, keep up the great work because you're personality and forwardness makes you the ideal type for UA-cam.
Very best video ever. Thank you for answering lots of questions. Take care of yourself
Your amazing young man... You came through the dark 😊
I am from USA AND I wish you lived here but I’m glad you live in RUSSIA maybe someday you will be the next president I can only hope
I recently came across your channel and I love it. You are such a cool guy. I lived in Thailand for a year in Phuket, it was much better and cheaper than England. I’m back in England now for family reasons though. Keep making flipping fun videos 👌🏻
Keep it up Ivan, I will keep watching your vlogs. All the best to you and your family
You keep being you and ignore those that put you down, You are a genuine and truthful.
GREAT VIDEO IVAN - love your channel and your story and wish you well!
Vanya thank you for sharing your journey in life. Very interesting. You gotta do what you love, keep up the flipping good job.
Have a great year. Young one.🤗,Peace and love, from 🇨🇦
1999?! I knew I was old but hot damn lol I graduated High School in 2001. Ivan, I totally understand the biological father issue. Mine left when I was 3 when my Mom divorced him. He had the rights to come visit me and only did once. Then poof - disappeared like a fart in the wind. I did a dna test on one of the websites (not doing a free plug for it) to see if I have siblings etc - nope. But I have some cousins that all don't know their Dads either. Lots of deadbeats. My Mom remarried when I was 5 to an amazing man I call Dad. No one even realizes he's not my biological Dad unless I tell them. Legally adopted me so that my birth certificate says his name. Wouldn't change a thing. As for bridges and how you view the world - me too Ivan, me too. It's one of the biggest conversations I have with my therapist. We're all made of the same stuff. Why have we let ourselves devolve into the state we're in? . . age old question. Good chat Ivan!
Hi Ivan, my name is Joe, nice to meet you bro. Pretty cool life story and you cleared up a lot of questions I had about your person. Hopefully the crazy times in Russia will end soon... A short summary of my life, I was born and raised in America. At age 21 I joined the army (cause I couldn't find work), and was sent to Germany. Needless to say, I met my wife in Germany 87' and have been here since so I can relate to your living and learning different ways of life and learning how to appreciate what different countries have to offer ;)
While being bedridden i began searching the internet for you tubers from around the world so i remember you from before Sanctioned Ivan. You have grown up in front of us. Maturity looks good on you. I am hoping things work out for you. Good luck.❤
Hello sanction Ivan I appreciate you giving us your story in background I think you viewers really respect that from you and get back to me with more good news my brother
I enjoy watching your ' show', also you're pretty funny. It's very interesting to see Russia from a regular person. I am an American and I think you would do well here. 🇺🇸
Your a good man Ivan. Your thankful for your grandparents and your immediate and extended family. Good to here you giving them credit for helping shape you into the man you are.
Hi Ivan, you are a good story teller. I had to laugh when you said you only knew how to order a milkshake in English when you were in Ireland … why doesn’t that surprise me! lol! Your English is excellent with only a slight accent. You are a survivor and will do well in life. Life is tough and scary at times especially during these times but you never give up. You know what you like to do and what your strengths are - you and Evelina are a great team. Always be kind and supportive to each other as you are now. Thanks for sharing your history. I love your honesty - one of your best qualities. Praying that God will bless and protect you both. Love from Canada ❤️🇨🇦🙏
Thank you for the details of your life. It takes courage to share.
Ivan your Bio is very interesting and as a young man you already have lived an incredable flippin life . Remember too , some of the worlds greatest successful entrepreneurs were highscool dropouts because of bad grades ( usually because of attention deficate disorder ). I follow another Russian channel ( INSIDE RUSSIA) with Konstantine and you are so much like him ! Happy New Year from Manitoba Canada ! Love n Respect Respect n Love
What a great story. You are definitely a very good diplomat.
Bravo, Ivan! Thank you for reminding us that people of goodwill are everywhere, even in the most difficult times of international violence and discord. Increase the peace.
Very interesting to hear more of your background. Thanks for sharing more of your life history with us!
Hi Ivan, it’s amazing how inspired and motivated you stay in achieving your goal moving to the USA. We’ve done it almost 30 years ago and never regret it! Good luck and I strongly believe you can do it!
V interesting Ivan.Success is well deserved.Thx.
You are always really fun to watch!!!! Low key I kind of live vicariously through you and Evelina when you are out with your friends. I moved across the US to Virginia been here for a year and not made a single friend yet. And the stuff you makes me reflect on some of the things I did when I was a little younger. I'm 30 so not much older. I'm still a kid at heart!!! Your content is fun to watch.
Omg Ivan you have been through a lot. Thank you for sharing all this i know its not really easy to be vulnerable in front of so many people and then everything else happened. You and Evelenia have worked really hard. You both deserve much better then the current situation
Ivan, this is the second time I’ve watched this. Dude, you are so awesome. Seriously. Your spirit is amazing. 💯🙌💯
Brilliant. Interesting. Funny.
Nice to meet you, Ivan!
Fabulous video. You answered everybody's questions so very well. You are an amazing person having been able to take care of yourself since you were 8!! You and Evelina are a great team. So now I would like to know how did you two meet? Continue what you are doing and follow your passion. I wish every success and happiness for you 2 and Edward in the years to come. Does Edward have any future plans or does he want to work in his father's business?
Your Best Vlog ever Ivan!
My name is Eddie and I just watched your video and I agree that e
We should be one big family...
I started watching Ukraine and Russia because of the war. It's so sad that in our day and this time this is happening.
My look on Life is that there is good and bad in all. Thank you for sharing your story and showing that there is good.
As I see Warriors dying out there is a waste of life.
Hi Ivan. I'm an older guy living in Southern California (near Hollywood). I think you have a very good "screen presence" and will be successful as a utuber, or anything else you apply yourself to-
Hay Ivan you are a diplomat and a travel agent and food critic have never seen Moscow like you have shown the city the indoors pool and the outdoor skating rink was amazing keep up the good work
Ivan forget about th'm! You're a great person, doing a great job! When you start doing good, people start hating they're just jealous! So, just keep doing what you're doing!
Great story Ivan. My Russian GF went to college in Ireland, she loved it there.
Thanks for the video man,good for you 😊
Ivan, I love what you said, and you filled in so many blanks. Not that I really cared but things that I always wondered. I love you for the content that you put out and not for the country that you live in. But that does open up my understanding of the people of your land.
You're doing a great job Ivan 😂😂❤
Hi Ivan, i am a Canadian that stumbled on one of your videos..,
i have to say i had to look up your channel and start looking at the first video you made; from my 52 years of life experience that you are on the path to greatness.
Regardless of nationality,
Regardless of your father missing on this great story of life you are writting,
Regardless of mean worthless comments on here, (mean people are dumping there garbage on others, don’t take any on)
Our growing up situation are very similar, yes even in Canada your can grow up bullied because your parents have no means of buying new clothes,,, and if i could go back to a younger me, wich reminds me of you, and tell him one thing, from all the confort of money, a home and great cars i drive would be; YOU GOT THIS.
everything is gonna turn out, keep pursuing what comes to mind and never mourn a lost, because that is the way you climb a staircase, not beeing happy with just standing on the same step.
Very good posting, it rounds out the picture and is much appreciated. One piece of the puzzle missing, when did Evelina enter you life and what is her background? 😊
Ivan what a man you are don’t listen to the negativity you have worked hard and most of all told the truth I have watched you from the very start and to be honest I wish I could help you more but unfortunately had an accident and can’t work anymore but love watching your videos there’s always someone wants to put you down it’s great to hear a young person to tell us what should happen peace is what we need all the best Ivan from Delboy🏴🏴🇬🇧🇬🇧
You are my Scottish brother 🏴 Thank you for being with me
You are a diplomat Ivan, we love your channel you bring people together.
You sound very mature for a person of your age. Very cool you thought of working for yourself at this young age too! 😊❤🎉 good luck with everything ! And it was very interesting that you decided to move back to Russia after you finished schooling. I’d say it’s not The most popular move!) kudos to you
Awesome to hear your story bro. I have a similar story myself at least in having my own businesses and still being in college. Keep it up man we’re here for you.
Ivan, I'm so glad you did this video. I began watching you not long after the conflict started. I did have a lot of questions and skepticism about your past and motives for this channel although I did find them entertaining. I started watching you because I thought you were escaping Russia but when you returned I felt a little betrayed because I subbed to see how and where you were going but I still found the videos interesting enough. I'm quite a bitter older, 56, but I was interested in seeing how this young couple would make out trying to find a new place in the world but your return to Russia was a bit confusing until you explained how expensive it was to live abroad. I have to admit I thought you came from money since you studied in Ireland? I can see from a few other UA-camrs that they have not been mobilized even though they are in Russia and I hope you never are. I appreciate your honesty in this video and wish you the best.
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You're the best Ivan! Keep doing what you do! Really enjoy watching!
Absolutely great video. Very profound for such a young man. Best to you.
Good video! 💗
Been following on and off and on again, since you, Evelina and kitties were in Thailand. 💗
Thank you for sharing about your life. I've always wondered though how have you been not conscripted into the military yet
Home is where the heart is no matter where your home is!
You’re a stand-up dude👍🏼 from an amerikanski/Немецкий
Awesome video! Always appreciate a good Q & A. Keep up the great work.
Thank you for your honesty. Best to get it out in the open so people aren’t guessing.
Thank you Ivan great to meet you and for spreading Peace you are awesome i am 64yrs old from Texas USA and i support you my brother from another mother you caught my attention from the first video so keep them videos coming my friend like a great Beatles tune Imagine, i would LOve Pray for World Peace God Bless you and yours 🙏
Hi, I am from Ireland (Dublin) I am a grandmother and I admire how you are living your life. I hope you and your girlfriend stay safe and find a good apartment. I will be watching and liking all your videos Denise
Ivan, I am glad you made this video. I had watched some of your other videos, but I always found them to be lacking any context. Now that I know more about your personal background I find your other videos to have greater relevance. Keep up the good work.
I love who you are!
A wonderful Happy New Year to you and your loved ones.
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Great video Ivan, I have been subbed for a few months and enjoy your content, I’m glad you and Evelina and your Cat’s got out of Russia, one of the things I really like about you, is you don’t exploit your girlfriend for views, and you are a gentleman with her, I’m nearly 60 and my Dad was a gentleman we were working class too, and even though my parents divorced when I was 5, they stayed in contact for my Sister and I. I wish you all the success in the world. My favourite country is Thailand, so even though I haven’t ever been to Pattaya I’m not a bar kind of guy as I don’t drink, and my Soulmate was Scottish I lost her 2.5yrs ago to cancer, so we would meet up in Sth east Asia all the time as it was sort of halfway between Scotland and Australia. I will keep watching as I’m glad you escaped Putin’s war.
I like your style 👍I like the the way you talk, like your in the same room. That my friend is, a very rare quality that most people do not have.
You are as I suspected, a very smart young man with a great disposition and outgoing personality. You are a self made man and have taken advantage of opportunities. We hosted foreign exchange students in USA for two people, a young man from Brazil and young women from France. We took them everywhere, we exposed them to sports, seeing things etc, we treated them like our kids and we are happy they see us as family, their American family.
As far as being proud of who you are, you should be (I agree 100% with you, it has nothing to do with government). The Russian culture is especially rich and historical. My family and I have been to St Petersburg and Moscow as well as Ireland, all wonderful places with even better people. I wish you, Evelina, your families and friends, peace, happiness and much success. I am retired military. You have a great attitude!
From my experiences in life, a lot of people just don't like to hear the truth. You just carry on the way you are. Screw them !