How to prevent your wing from COLLAPSING!
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Brake deflection prevents deflation! I hope you guys enjoyed this impromptu kiting lesson. A lot of people have been asking about the upcoming Risky Biscuits Co. summer merch drop and giveaway! The new designs are looking so sick! Stay tuned, it's going to be epic and one of you guys will have a shiny new carbon fiber paramotor as well as some top notch training. 😁 More details coming next week.
I realize this is super-confusing, but neither a paraglider nor an airplane are a pendulum. This same physics applies to anything not touching the ground, not just a rocket. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_rocket_fallacy
@@ljfinger I'd say you've got a point with an airplane because of how it's designed. But a paramotor behaves a lot like a pendulum
@@jchoneandonly It *behaves* like one, but not because it *is* one. All that pendulum-like behavior is because of aerodynamic coupling. For example, the side-side pendulum-like behavior is from slip-roll coupling.
What if I get stranted on an Island and the only way out is paramotor? Muahaha my hours of watching you finally will pay off
@@dm.6133 You'd need a paramotor then wouldn't you? It's probably a little more complicated when you're strapped in but I can see where you're coming from for sure
Jaclyn cracks me up 😂 good stuff, entertainment value ensured
Flying over earth at thousands of feet... CHECK ✅
Tiny bug crawling up the arm... AAAHHHHHH! ❎
I'm sorry but, that was really funny you guys are awesome
I second that! LOL
Got my wing and motor on my birthday yesterday! Epic times, these. Thanks for the inspiration Tucker (and Jaclyn). Enjoy your weekend, both!
What did you get?
@@RickDean A red, white, & blue Parajet Maverick Moster and Spyder 3.
@@swoop_cheetah Are you still with us Stephen? It's been a year so- just checking to see if you made it.
@@stoneysdead689 he uploaded a video of him buzzing around 4 days ago, he's a stud!
Arguably MY favorite video. Didn’t realize that a wing could experience a frontal collapse and that flying is very much a balancing act. Thank you!!
It’s really not like that 99% of the time. This is only when there is high wind so only if you got caught in a storm type of situation. I have been flying for five years and pretty much all the time I could fly (cruise) with my hands down by my side and I don’t experience even close to the kind of turbulence that would cause a frontal collapse.
Josh Wilson - good comment, thanks! I haven’t flown (yet) but it would seem to be as safe as SCUBA diving, if one gets proper training, and flies with acceptable equipment, speed, and weather.
You should not fly in these conditions anyway.
B. Bakker - True and good advice. 👍
@@Mounta9n Depends on where you fly and what time of day, thermic air can cause collapses even at relatively low windspeeds. Hit a a thermal and fly through it, you will get the forward surge that may lead to a collapse. Having said that , most A or B wings nowadays are very collapse resistant and will simply make you feel a little uncomfortable as you pitch back and forth.
Scout Carbon and training?! : faints :
Thanks for the lesson. Not just the wind and wang collapse tango, but also exercising caution not to fly when conditions are less than ideal.
Cheers for the shout out dude, glad the video was useful! Have you guys tried the RoadRunner? It’s really fun in strong wind and saves your main wing
LOL anyone else also spit their coffee out when the bugs attacked Jaclyn? hahahahaha
Aw Jac was bringing the kitty to the camera right before you closed. XD missed it!
I know! So sad!
I’m sorry but the screaming was absolutely hilarious!
so awesome lol
Excellent demonstration aid! Thanks for the video.
You know you're early when there's 290 views and no dislikes
We have this saying in my other profession that comes to mind when discussing paraglider collapses. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" Good on you and Jaclyn for practicing in stronger winds! Staying sharp is staying safe!
Question...... how does “trim” affect the stall process ?... thanks Not a ppg flyer
Trims let you adjust the lenght of the back and middle lines. The front lines stay the same lenght.
Trim in, normal angle of attack, normal flight.
Trim out, decrease the angle of attack, increases the speed, and sink rate but closer to collapse.
On paramotor, trim out goes faster but you need more power to maintain level flight.
The only way to stall a paraglider wing is to pull too much on the brakes. Every wing and wing class is different. The beginner wing have a lot of brake travel on pressure before stall.
The more advanced wing, the less the brake pressure and travel you have before stall.
Nico Nico Cool. Thanks for explaining it 🍺
@@niconico3907 bullshit. Paramotor wings are so called reflex profile. When you trim out, you change the form of the wing, where last few lines get longer and the back of the wing goes up, so the most weight is being carried by A lines. This way wing is more stable in turbulent weather because it's so much harder to collapse front when more weight is carried by the front. Also, you need more speed as the carrying part of the wing decreases, thus increasing descent rate. You can also use speed system, but that decreases angle of attack as you mentioned. Also, you cant use brakes when fully trimmed out, because that messes with the reflex profile, so you use tip steering. So that's why active piloting is impossible.
But, if you fly traditional PG wing (non reflex) then trimers would work by affecting angle of attack and everything would be as you mentioned. Hoped this helped. Peace
Another great video. Thanks for sharing. If you ever want to fly in a Mooney let me know. Im local.
Lmao@ Jaclyn
Really like your videos Tucker I like your information about the ppg sport and explained how too's. Thanks 🤙🤙😁
Your cameraman is unprofessional😂
Good stuff. I like the occasional educational content. Thanks.
Jaclyn is so funny 😅
Me and my wife almost pissed ourselves when we heard Jacqueline scream due to the bug ! Epic ! She is so damn funny... should have a “Jacqueline bloopers” video
I'm ok with Edu-tainment
I love your guys goofiness. You two are a great match and I love your videos keep them coming please.
Jaclyn is very entertaining! 👍😁👍 I love kiting my wing! Nice video.
at 1:07 did jaclyn say "nice wang"
Haha & lol 🤣👍🏻
Very interesting video ♥♥! As a fellow UA-camr, I am on the lookout for creative ideas! Nice Job!
Tucker, I've enjoyed your videos for years, especially your emphasis on safety and decision making. You do take risks, but I've always appreciated your tendency to highlight those risks for the viewers, as well as the steps you take to mitigate that risk where possible. I've never felt like you deceive the public by implying that aggressive maneuvering close to the ground is no big deal and something that a new pilot expect to perform right away, for example. I also respect your willingness to self-critique, own your mistakes, and embrace them as learning opportunities not only for yourself, but the wider audience. All good stuff!
Which is why I find it awkward and painful to bring up a criticism. Both you and Jaclyn strap into wings on a sketchy wind day (that has already surprised you by not developing as forecast), without helmets. I think it's a reasonable "best practice" to never strap into a wing without a helmet on in general, but especially so on a stronger wind day. With no intention to fly, there have been lots of injuries and multiple deaths from those who attempted to practice kiting when the wind has surprised them, resulting in being dragged through obstacles/terrain not compatible with the human body, or ending up in the air by accident in conditions beyond their skill level or equipment capability. For those new to paragliding wings, it's hard to imagine just how much force can be generated by a wing caught in strong wind.
You are an experienced and skilled pilot, and it's your own life. You are able to measure your risk in deciding to forgo the helmet for a kiting session as well as any other experienced pilot, but FAR better than a beginner. You are also an ambassador to the sport. Despite the "I'm not an instructor" disclaimer (which I fully support, BTW), your audience DOES look up to you as an example of a responsible pilot, and will probably emulate much of what they see if they decide to try this for themselves.
I'm not demanding you wear a helmet, just like I don't demand you only fly in the safest possible way. I just ask that when you decide not to wear the helmet when strapped in, that you let the audience know that's not a safe choice for most of us.
Nice vid Tucker. What was the Windy predicting for wind speeds? Did this take you totally by surprise or was it touch and go flying conditions on the app? Would love a video on how you do your analysis on flying conditions and what your fly/no fly parameters are.
This night was predicted to be very calm. There was a small thunderstorm about 50 miles away that blew up into a massive cell and was likely the culprit of the winds.
Tucker: nobody is offering lessons in my area right now due to Covid, but I'd still like some practice. Can you recommend some kind of relatively small kite that might teach me ground-handling skills?
Ozone RoadRunner
@@kp155mx Jeez- that's over half the price of a real wing. I think you'd have to be an instructor to justify that. I was hoping for something under, say, $300
Who sits like that? Jaqueline is like me... 🤣 she’s so funny.
Thanks for the video Tucker I found it educational. Definitely something I will need to practice when I get Paramotor training.
Great balance of education and entertainment. Had fun watching this. Thanks Tucker and Jacklyn, sorry about the spelling if I got it wrong Jacklyn..
Jaclyn's snark!
BEST Hollywood screams! Jaclyn, you should record & sell them to the studios. Tucker, reserve your CyberTruck today.... Less maintenance (just an occasional cabin filter & tires)!!
You are a born instructor Tucker :)
I've been flying for the past 31 years, I have 500 hrs in ultralights, 2,500 hr in fixed wing. Your videos inspire me to start a new challenge. I want to fly exactly what you have.
I am trusting your knowledge and experience in flying paragliding and will continue to watch and learn from you. Thank you Tucker and Jacqueline for your awesome videos.
Even if you are an experienced plane pilot, you should get paramotor or paragliding lessons even if its quicker because you know the air better than someone who never have flown before. There are more than a few differences in flight characteristics like pendulum effect, inertia, and everything that can go wrong, stall, collapse...
Don't underestimate the effort required to learn to kite the wing. It's all worthwhile though.
1:19 that's a big kite
Very good collapse description, and the beetle squeaks confused the doggo.
Perfekt timing Trucker. After a short xc flight i sit here at the train station and have to wait an hour for the train. 👌
I love this comment. xD
Fly back ? Why train
probably was low fuel?
This time without Motor 😅
I’m game for wherever you video takes me. And your girlfriend is a trip!!
Great explanation Tucker, Jacqueline had me cracking up. Take care you guys.
Hey Jaclyn there's a bug on you🤣😂🤣🤣😅😂
class vid as always..I definitely prefer active Piloting over open trims..just in my head i feel safer..just a daft 1 though...if they could create stiff lines and an inflated wing..why wouldnt it work..if possible to build then it would work...would it not???
I like the “educational” videos, keep them coming. So if I’m comparing, adding brake pressure is the equivalent of adding flaps in a airplane?
Christian Noble but if you’re already stalling in clean config., any flap deployment will just exacerbate the situation by increasing the effective AoA. Flaps give you more lift at any AoA. When you add flaps at same airspeed, you get more lift but you also increase the AoA instantaneously so it should be very dangerous to add flaps w/o adding airspeed when you’re already at stalling AoA. I don’t get his explanation. 😐
You are correct and I’m trying to compare two things that may have too different characteristics. I’m working on my CFI and just an aspiring PPG flyer as of right now and just trying to understand the concept and theory before I jump into ground training in the future.
A very good video. Glad you didn't scrap it...
PS, not sure if you ever watched Big Bang, but you did a good job of feeding the chocolate to Penny... ( With the ice cream)
Anyone who watches the show knows what I mean...
Alright mate im looking into this hobbie what sort of paramotor would you recommend i watched your video on the cheap ones you test flew and said there bot very stable in the air what would you recomend mate for a beginner thanks
Here are a couple stupid questions since I don't know anything about this.
You said to pull the breaks in the back. Are there breaks somewhere else? On the side for turning?
Kiting is playing around with the wing on the ground?
I think I saw something about 'kiting wings', which I guess are smaller. Then somebody said don't waste your money because they are pretty expensive. What's the alternative - buy a harness and wing and kite with that...and is that a good idea?
Also, is this frontal collapse something that happens mostly on the ground? Or is it something you need to think about while flying.
Yes, I know...I need lessons. Thinking about that.
I do, however, have one of your t-shirts!
I don't fly, but I like to watch your vids. I wanted to ask if you have a Reflex or Non-Reflex wing. I don't know the difference to look at 'em, but it seems to make a difference about how you land......maybe about how you kite as well?
I do get scared with blustery weather
Hey Tucker, thanks for all your videos and merch. My Risky Biscuits Heather slate T shirt was delivered on Friday after sitting in Sydney for nearly 3 months! It's funny 'cause you're wearing the exact design and colour in this video. Good to see you guys are out and about.
Jaclyn can sit how she wants!
This is good content! =)
Tucker you need to change your bleep from the 'duck/goose' sound bite to Ms Jaclyn squeal!
=D
Good morning Tucker Gott! And Jaclyn!
I see a Tucker Gott video so I watch & like. I'm a simple man.
Tucker, where can I find the strobe you wear on your head?? Thx!
Keep up the great content.
Hey Tucker, what's your take on the Ozone Roadrunner for ground handling practice?
In other words, in order to get a full frontal, you have to have a bad attitude...........not wonder the bad boy's get all the action;-)
Hi first well I was 3rd and ur vids are amazing
I had ear buds in...that scream went straight into the center of my brain...like an ice pick...plus I think I squirted a little peeper...
Wait this video was just posted?? Didnt even notice
Why didnt youtube tell me..
Hi i'm come from Indonesian
This video is the real proof that new paramotors pilots need proper training. Great video for a perspective newcomer.
Tucker! grab yo woman, and come back to Tucson Arizona! I would love to meet you guys, and buzz around the state with you. www.glideamerica.com
thanks Tuck, 4 the vid. If we were to apply a bit of trim, would that help the leading edge sit more back in the wind to help prevent collapsing? thanks
I don't get it. I didn't see the leading edge start to deform I just saw you yank down on the brakes which looked like that was stalling the wing?? Pls help.
I love the 3 meter trainer kites. Typical for kite boarding is a 1 or 2 meter...but the 3m is fun af.
Hi Tucker, what app do you use to fly? GPS, ALT? thank you!
Love your work TG (oh yeah - and Jac). 👍👍
Oh man y’all are so baked 😆
I love all your videos dude but this one was extra goofy and cracked me up.
She's crispy bro haha 👌
Bitch control is how i prevent my girlfriend from collapsing-(i wish)
GREAT Video! Just curious what were the winds during this video?
Aww joclin looks extra cute there in this video uguys do great videos looks very nice on big 4k tv these flight videos
If possible, would like to see the difference between throttles? Profiles, cruise control, and the like.
I busted out laughing at that family photo XD
Very informative and educational to people interested (seriously) in taking up the sport
Hey Tucker - How does that relate to trimmers to mid-point (where you can still use the breaks... what changes then?) And how does it apply to trimmers fully open where the breaks may not be used but instead the wing tip controls shall on a Roadster 3 for example? Greetings
I would have to read the manual for the Roadster, but I'm pretty sure you are allowed to use full brakes just as you can on the Freeride. For this video, I wanted to keep it simple so I left the trims out of it. On a wing like the Freeride, it gets more complicated as you increase the reflex profile as you trim out. The short and sweet is that the wing becomes harder to collapse with no brake input, but if it does, the collapse is more violent and harder to recover. It's also important to note that although you can use brakes while trimmed out on the Freeride, it is not recommended to actively pilot in turbulence while trimmed out. In turbulence, you should either make the decision to trim out and don't use brake, or trim neutral/in and actively pilot.
@@TuckerGott Awesome. Thanks, Tucker, for your response! That definitely helped!
So far - whenever I felt it getting too bumpy I trimmed in and reverted to active piloting. It feels much safer right away :-)
Have a great weekend and if you ever find yourself wanting to fly in Germany by any chance. Hit me up on Paramotor Manni (no plug intended)
Greetings!
Does Jaclyn long hair ever become a problem. It looks like it might get sucked into the motor.
So, I see you have the 4 blade prop installed.. I thought you decided on the 3 blade :)
Hey Tucker, Do you ever get back to fixed wing? Make a vlog of that:)
It's amazing how women can be there for them. But just jump ship at a moments notice.
You are too young to have wang inflation problems.......
Excellent tutorial on wing dynamics! Learned A Lot!
So I've never flown before and I do plan to go to training in the not so distant future so I'm sure it will be discussed there but does throttle response play a role in this scenario?
A Floaty Floaty Wing with not much Load on it is more likely to collapse...
Nice i do that with my BGD SEED 😊,THANK YOU
She is not afraid of flying with paramotar.. but afraid of the bug!
Jaclyn is screaming at a little bug and me who has been stung by a asinine beetle is over here just watching in confusion
BE NICE TO JACLYN!...
GOOD INFO ON BRAKING THOUGH!...
Paramotors looking like a bunch of candyasses flying off like big chickens
Tucker is a Apco wing good for a first wing? IT is make in Israel.
the weather is changing just like the peop;e crazy times!!
Epic prop for demonstrating how a wing responds.
Thanks for the great advice I've learned a lot It will help me the next time I go out and kite
You’ll make an excellent instructor when that time comes 👍😊
9:44 Jaclaruto
What type of ground harness do you recommend?
Jaqueline killed it in this vid. She made the content!
Tucker. How far in front of you would the wing need to go to have a frontal collapse.
12:25 Tucker offers to buy 12 year old girl ice cream.
obviously murder hornets have hit new jersey.
Never seen this explained so clearly, thanks!