Also, French isn't just spoken in Quebec. It is recognized in New Brunswick as an official language as well. I'm from New Brunswick and learned my numbers in this manner. Might it be more accurate to say Canadian French? I'm not entirely sure. I know there are even differences in how it's spoken between the two provinces. All this to say, numbers are similar in New Brunswick outside of Acadian areas. Thanks for the vid. I'd be interested to hear you talk about Joual French dialect.
@@NezuChan I thought the conservatives did take it out of the official languages? :0 ngl, im glad its not the case, at least one province wont completely erase the existence of its Francos for once...
@@adrasthe314 Oh they damn well tried, but we wouldn't let them. Our wonderful premier is an English language elitist and a total idiot. I despise him.
Try looking into the Danish way. It's 10 times as complicated😂. But you typically don't say/spell the full word in normal speech. For example; 94 is fireoghalvfemsindstyvende
Dawg every time I was in French class back in the day I always thought “haha dix neuf sounds like Deez Nuts” Glad I know other people also think the same lol
The Acadians of Canada still say septante, nonante (some say huitante), but when the children go to school they learn the French/Québec version of numbers (the crazy non sensical one)
Yes. I only hear that still used in one tiny village near me, mostly by older people. It's a carryover from some Swiss French varieties. I learned mostly standard French, as I am further from Quebec. I still gained a lot of Quebec French despite this, mostly from family and I can speak Chiac.
@@notisac3149 the danish 50 is "third half times twenty", because 2.5*20=50. 40 is "four twenties" because they’re bad at maths. 60 is "three times 20" which does make sense but is just as ridiculous as the French 80. I mean, all this makes sense, but why??? People don’t use those forms anymore btw, they abbreviate them nowadays, but now 50 is just "third half", 60 "threes" and so on, which sounds even less logical.
Forty in Danish derives from “fjórir tigir” same as the English forty “feowertig” meaning four ten(s)/ 4*10. The twenty in the danish forty (fyrretyve) was added later because numbers from 50-90 use the x*20 method.
Belgian ( and more specifically Walloon ) here, we actually don't use "huitante" or "octante" for the 80s, only Romandia ( the french-speaking part of Switzerland ) uses it. So we still uses "quatre-vingt" for the 80s 😅 Why? Idk, but I'm not even surprised anymore about Belgium doing its own messed up rules
As a French native, we should absolutely use the Swiss variants. Makes more sense. What doesn't make sense is retaining archaic ways of counting from the Gauls!
Also in the Basque Country we use 20 (hogei) as a base so: 30= 20+10 (hogei eta hamar --> hogeitahamar) 40= 2 × 20 (berriro hogei which transates to again twenty, berrogei) 50= 2 × 20 +10 60= 3×20 70= 3×20 +10 80=4×20 90=4×20+10
I was wondering why it sounded similar to welsh (a language which I speak a little bit of!), so that final bit about the Celtic Gauls made loads of sense. In welsh, for 33, we’d say “tri ar deg ar hugain” or literally “three on ten on twenty” likewise we also use the multiplication system, e.g. “deunaw” for 18, lit. “two-nine”
In basque is: -1 to 11 and 19 its own numbers. -20 its own number and 20+(1 to 9) -30,50,70 and 90 are 20+10, 50+10, 70+10 and 80+10 respectively -20/30/50/70/90+11/19 to make 31,59... -20/30...+(2 to 8) -40,60,80 are 20x2/3/4 respectively and 40/60/80+(1 to 9) -100 its own number -100x 2/3/4... For the rest And the last one repeats every time a 0 is added So 359 would be 100x3+40+19
My French teacher said she hated the 90s in France. Because everytime she wpuld have to say the year or write it she would have to write down so many words. She was very excited on new years eve when all she had to say was deux millie
English does actually have something similar, if you approach it from Score. A score, of course, is 20. Four score and seven, like from the Gettysburg Address, is a reference to the length of time from 1776 to 1863
I think I would just lie and say I am from Swizerland when speaking French...Then found out Swizerland might be harder...I don't want to count like this...
This is a mistake a lot of English people make, it's not "sixty-ten-nine" It's "sixty-nineteen" but because of the way nineteen it's said people think it's nine and ten.
Btw, it’s been brought up how the vigesimal system likely developed on its own as the history doesn’t align with it being derived from Gaulish. There’s a good chapter on it that I can look for later.
My ABSOLUTE *FAVORITE* number in French ever since Middle School is not 69 but 79 because it sounds EXACTLY like "SWAZ-ON DEES NUH(f)" or SO close to "suck onnDEEZ nuhhhhts' AIH. Famour last eirlslden
I had a flashback of elementary school. French numbers are weird. I didn't find it too bad after practicing a lot. It was one of the first things I learned along with French sounds not used often in English and diacritics. Another thing I find really weird is the past imperative tense. It's like time travelling. 😂 I think it's only used in literature. I was never even taught it in school, only present imperative.
I think you mean subjunctive But yeah, French tenses came directly from Latin (who kind of went ham on the whole mood thing) but a few of them got dropped for being a bit too much of a mouthful
@@jmanig76 It is a little more common than I thought, but not super common. I do mean past imperative though. Not subjunctive. Conditional past type 2 has got to be one of the oddest tenses I have ever seen and it is archaic. It was used as a way to show formality in verb conjugation. It is a terrible mess to try and learn, which is probably why it was dropped in favour of type 1, to the point where type 1 is considered the "default". I am curious if type 2 exists in other romance languages or if it's exclusive to French and langues d'oïl.
I don't care if people think how we say those numbers is weird, they roll off the tongue much better and sound a lot nicer than the Swiss/Belgian alternatives 😌💅
In German we don't say twenty four, we say four and twenty. If that isn't insane enough, there are people who say telephone numbers in units of two digits.
it makes so much more sense knowing it's base twenty 🤦 just imagine "twenty" was swapped with 100 or something, and you can tell it works exactly the same way as base 10
This is one of the aspects I hate the most about the french language. Japanese is similar in the sense you need to multiply. For example 十 is 10, 20 is 二十 or twice 10 and so on until get get to 100, which is 百 and we start adding number slike that starting at 110.
Not the same as french tho Japanese keeps is consistent 10, 2x10....5x10 6x10 7x10 8x10, 9x10 It's consistent. Not so with french 10, 20.... 50, 60, 60+10, 4x20, 4x20+10
No language shouod be mocked other than FRENCH. "Birds" there are "oiseaux". Fun facts: This word is pronounced not like ojse-aux, it's pronounced WAZOU. This word hits every vowel YET STILL MANAGES TO BE PRONOUNCED WITH TWO. GODDAMN. SYLLABLES.
And people say German numbers are weird lol. Double digits are said backwards. You know how in the teens we say the last number first like in NINEteen or THIRteen? Well they just continued that onwards. Twenty-two (22) is „zweiundzwanzig“ or "two-and-twenty". Ninety-six (96) is „sechsundneunzig" or "six-and-ninety". So what about any digits beyond that? Not affected by this weird ruling. One-hundred-twenty-five (125) is „einhundertfünfundzwanzig“, or "one-hundred-five-and-twenty". Still way better than doing multiplication just to say a single number lol
Didn't English used to be like that? The song Big Iron pokes fun at this by saying that the outlaw had notches on his pistol counting "one and nineteen more", which of course is just 20...
Actually... yes, we do say "sixty-ten" for 70, but it's not "sixty-ten-nine" for 79, it's "sixty-nineteen" (still "soixante-dix-neuf", though) why am i so sure it's 60+19 and not 60+10+9 even though i dont have any language degree or anything like that and that it's pronouced the same ? Well, because for 71, it's not "sixty-ten-one" (soixante-dix-un ?) it's "sixty-and-eleven" (soixante et onze). And it's like that for all seventies and the nineties (i dont know if this last sentence is understandable, and i dont care)
Quick Corrections: I keep saying "fourty-twenty" but I actually meant to say "four-twenty." Also, I said octante instead of huitante for some reason.
Also, French isn't just spoken in Quebec. It is recognized in New Brunswick as an official language as well. I'm from New Brunswick and learned my numbers in this manner. Might it be more accurate to say Canadian French? I'm not entirely sure. I know there are even differences in how it's spoken between the two provinces. All this to say, numbers are similar in New Brunswick outside of Acadian areas. Thanks for the vid. I'd be interested to hear you talk about Joual French dialect.
@@NezuChan I thought the conservatives did take it out of the official languages? :0 ngl, im glad its not the case, at least one province wont completely erase the existence of its Francos for once...
@@adrasthe314 Oh they damn well tried, but we wouldn't let them. Our wonderful premier is an English language elitist and a total idiot. I despise him.
Octante makes 50 times more sense than whatever a "huit" is @@shruik58
Try looking into the Danish way. It's 10 times as complicated😂. But you typically don't say/spell the full word in normal speech. For example; 94 is fireoghalvfemsindstyvende
Me: The French are so weird
Me remembering my native language does the same but worse: *nervous twitching*
What would that be BTW?
@@billyguns6975 Danish probably
@@2712animefreak I think he's basque
@@gabrielgamexzi agree with this guess. last name + basque is a base-20 counting system
@@gabbismith And in his channel there's a playlist of Basque music ig
soixante dix NUTZ
50 19 is closer to… you know
Dawg every time I was in French class back in the day I always thought “haha dix neuf sounds like Deez Nuts”
Glad I know other people also think the same lol
@@anifsky1065 well, we are on the Internet after all.
Everyone laughed in my French class as well when they said dix-neuf.
79
English used to be similar in that way: to say eighty, you’d say fourscore; to say seventy, you’d say threescore and ten.
Fortunately, people realized that that was stupid.
Now we just need to replace eleven to nineteen with onety-one to onety-nine. 😜
And twenty with twoty? Thirty with threety?
@@EdKolis You'll get it eventually.
Fourscore was at most an alternative and was never the primary word for eighty. "Eighty" has been pretty much the same since Old English "eahtatig"
Fourscore was more formal once, but eighty has always been used.
The Acadians of Canada still say septante, nonante (some say huitante), but when the children go to school they learn the French/Québec version of numbers (the crazy non sensical one)
Yes. I only hear that still used in one tiny village near me, mostly by older people. It's a carryover from some Swiss French varieties. I learned mostly standard French, as I am further from Quebec. I still gained a lot of Quebec French despite this, mostly from family and I can speak Chiac.
I am a descendant of the the deported of 1755. Vive L' Acadie!
Michif may not have fixed the messed up French numbers but at least we fixed the verbs
Yep, I’m a French immersion student in Canada and I’ve learned the quatre-vingt-neuf way!
Bro I’m Acadian, travelled all over Acadia and have NEVER heard septante other than from Belgian people.
This counting system also exists in Louisiana, New England, and Missouri French.
cajun here, my moms half cajun and so's my dad, i use septante, etc
@@halozxz5770 so Louisiana French also sometimes uses the Belgian system of counting.
Please do Danish next, they’re absolutely insane
Yes, I'd love to see him talk about that as well 😂
Really? I don't suppose it's like counting in German? Beause that's nowhere near as ludicrous as French counting.
@@notisac3149 the danish 50 is "third half times twenty", because 2.5*20=50. 40 is "four twenties" because they’re bad at maths. 60 is "three times 20" which does make sense but is just as ridiculous as the French 80.
I mean, all this makes sense, but why???
People don’t use those forms anymore btw, they abbreviate them nowadays, but now 50 is just "third half", 60 "threes" and so on, which sounds even less logical.
Forty in Danish derives from “fjórir tigir” same as the English forty “feowertig” meaning four ten(s)/ 4*10. The twenty in the danish forty (fyrretyve) was added later because numbers from 50-90 use the x*20 method.
French stoners be like "80 blaze it"
It's a natural consequence of a base-20 language existing in a base-10 world.
It sounds like "succ on dezz 🥜"
19 sounds like dez nuts
Belgian ( and more specifically Walloon ) here, we actually don't use "huitante" or "octante" for the 80s, only Romandia ( the french-speaking part of Switzerland ) uses it. So we still uses "quatre-vingt" for the 80s 😅
Why? Idk, but I'm not even surprised anymore about Belgium doing its own messed up rules
Classic Belgium.
Nonante for 90 aswell
@@allesineen1793 in Belgium:
70: septante
80: quatre-vingt
90: nonante
As a French native, we should absolutely use the Swiss variants. Makes more sense. What doesn't make sense is retaining archaic ways of counting from the Gauls!
Yes and Swiss variant is cooler because it comes from Latin
Also in the Basque Country we use 20 (hogei) as a base so:
30= 20+10 (hogei eta hamar --> hogeitahamar)
40= 2 × 20 (berriro hogei which transates to again twenty, berrogei)
50= 2 × 20 +10
60= 3×20
70= 3×20 +10
80=4×20
90=4×20+10
At least that one makes sense
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I was wondering why it sounded similar to welsh (a language which I speak a little bit of!), so that final bit about the Celtic Gauls made loads of sense.
In welsh, for 33, we’d say
“tri ar deg ar hugain”
or literally “three on ten on twenty”
likewise we also use the multiplication system, e.g. “deunaw” for 18, lit. “two-nine”
Numbers in danish are also weird. To say 93 it’s three-and-fifth-½-times-twenty
Took me a while to figure that one out. That's 3 + (5 - 0.5) * 20, right?
@@EdKolis yes!
yall crazy
@@EdKolisi see the logic
3+4.5×20
3+90
93
We have a very similar counting system here in the country of Georgia.
In basque is:
-1 to 11 and 19 its own numbers.
-20 its own number and 20+(1 to 9)
-30,50,70 and 90 are 20+10, 50+10, 70+10 and 80+10 respectively
-20/30/50/70/90+11/19 to make 31,59...
-20/30...+(2 to 8)
-40,60,80 are 20x2/3/4 respectively and 40/60/80+(1 to 9)
-100 its own number
-100x 2/3/4... For the rest
And the last one repeats every time a 0 is added
So 359 would be 100x3+40+19
I think this is because french people used to use a base 12 number system so to them 60 is like our 100
My French teacher said she hated the 90s in France. Because everytime she wpuld have to say the year or write it she would have to write down so many words. She was very excited on new years eve when all she had to say was deux millie
Deux mille*
English does actually have something similar, if you approach it from Score. A score, of course, is 20. Four score and seven, like from the Gettysburg Address, is a reference to the length of time from 1776 to 1863
I think I would just lie and say I am from Swizerland when speaking French...Then found out Swizerland might be harder...I don't want to count like this...
The split second image is just:
vingt-quatre
twenty-four
This is a mistake a lot of English people make, it's not "sixty-ten-nine"
It's "sixty-nineteen" but because of the way nineteen it's said people think it's nine and ten.
Btw, it’s been brought up how the vigesimal system likely developed on its own as the history doesn’t align with it being derived from Gaulish. There’s a good chapter on it that I can look for later.
My ABSOLUTE *FAVORITE* number in French ever since Middle School is not 69 but 79 because it sounds EXACTLY like "SWAZ-ON DEES NUH(f)" or SO close to "suck onnDEEZ nuhhhhts'
AIH. Famour last eirlslden
I had a flashback of elementary school. French numbers are weird. I didn't find it too bad after practicing a lot. It was one of the first things I learned along with French sounds not used often in English and diacritics. Another thing I find really weird is the past imperative tense. It's like time travelling. 😂 I think it's only used in literature. I was never even taught it in school, only present imperative.
I think you mean subjunctive
But yeah, French tenses came directly from Latin (who kind of went ham on the whole mood thing) but a few of them got dropped for being a bit too much of a mouthful
@@jmanig76 It is a little more common than I thought, but not super common. I do mean past imperative though. Not subjunctive. Conditional past type 2 has got to be one of the oddest tenses I have ever seen and it is archaic. It was used as a way to show formality in verb conjugation. It is a terrible mess to try and learn, which is probably why it was dropped in favour of type 1, to the point where type 1 is considered the "default". I am curious if type 2 exists in other romance languages or if it's exclusive to French and langues d'oïl.
Uh oh now im abt to regret taking french class
You can say “four score” in English for 80. “Four score and a dozen” is 92.
same in basque curiously enough
As a french this short is very nice and yes, Belgian and Switzerland are smarter cause it take less time to say "nonante" than "quatre vingt dix"
I've never achieved to get it when I was in french class.
french ppl be wilding💀
Basque does the same but with all numbers
Danish says 70 as halv-fjerdsens tyvende or (0,5-4)*20
Quatre vignt dix neuf has the same energy as public static void main.
I never really thought about it before non natives brought it up
Just realized that your hat is a fish lol
The same type of system is used in Haitian Creole where 99 is “Katrevennèf” literally fours twenties & 19
Dix-neuf also is just 19, so you could argue it's four-twenty-nineteen
For some reason the same system is in the Georgian language
"Ciao?"
But we learn it as one thing, like we learn "quatre-vingts dix" as the sound to pronounce 90 basically
Sorry about the one frame of "twenty four" at the beginning of the video
This is very unrelated to the actual content, which is top notch btw, but your voice has such a nice, almost natural ASMR quality to it. ❤
And this is a rare situation where I hand a W to Belgian french. They use "septente", "octente" and "nonente" for 70, 80 and 90
Even Corsican french have a word for it
"four twenty nineteen" is more accurate than "four twenty ten nine" which makes it sound dumber than it already is 😭
IG im not the only one who heard suggondis-
I don't care if people think how we say those numbers is weird, they roll off the tongue much better and sound a lot nicer than the Swiss/Belgian alternatives 😌💅
septante, octante/huitante and nonante have left the chat.
It's just counting in base twenty, it's not that complicated...
Okay but why do they have a word for 10, 30 and 50 but not 80?
What about Danish? 💀
In German we don't say twenty four, we say four and twenty. If that isn't insane enough, there are people who say telephone numbers in units of two digits.
it makes so much more sense knowing it's base twenty 🤦
just imagine "twenty" was swapped with 100 or something, and you can tell it works exactly the same way as base 10
Pas en Belgique ! Sauf que on dit toujours quatre-vingt.
The French counting system: The only counting system I can think of that's worse than the Danish system.
This is one of the aspects I hate the most about the french language. Japanese is similar in the sense you need to multiply. For example 十 is 10, 20 is 二十 or twice 10 and so on until get get to 100, which is 百 and we start adding number slike that starting at 110.
When have the French ever been normal?
Or, be they could just start being reasonable and use septante, huitante/octante, and nonante. 🙂↔️
my french teacher always told us how good we had it saying deux mille dix sept for the year rather than dix neuf mille quatre vignt dix neuf
Soixante-dix
What’s Soixante-dix
Soixante-dix nuts
In belgium in walonia (im from flanders) septont, huitont and nonnant are actually not uncommen
Im gonna crank some quatre-vingt-dix's in Fortnite when the next season is downloaded.
Belgians use 'septante' and 'nonante' but also 'quatre-vingt'
Quatre-vingt is used in Belgian French
what about danish numbers 😭
Japanese does this as well
39 is sanjukyu or 3×10+9
@@donovanlocust1106 English does this as well. ThirTY = 3x10. forTY = 4x10. fifTY = 5x10. sixTY = 6x10 etc.
I think you missed the point
Not the same as french tho
Japanese keeps is consistent
10, 2x10....5x10 6x10 7x10 8x10, 9x10
It's consistent.
Not so with french
10, 20.... 50, 60, 60+10, 4x20, 4x20+10
That's the most logical way to count. if you can say three-hundred why not three-ten?
I don't feel bad about getting an F in French anymore 🙄🥴😂
"The French got really weird"
Duh
Well Japan does something similar like 65 would be roku (6) juu (10) go (5)
French 41 is cursed ☠️
No language shouod be mocked other than FRENCH. "Birds" there are "oiseaux".
Fun facts:
This word is pronounced not like ojse-aux, it's pronounced WAZOU.
This word hits every vowel YET STILL MANAGES TO BE PRONOUNCED WITH TWO. GODDAMN. SYLLABLES.
4 20s?
Yes
in chinese it’s just ‘ten-four’ for 14
Isn't it ironic that modern French is somewhat influenced by a Celtic language while modern English is somewhat influenced by Norman French?
So, the weed number in France is 80?
And people say German numbers are weird lol.
Double digits are said backwards. You know how in the teens we say the last number first like in NINEteen or THIRteen? Well they just continued that onwards.
Twenty-two (22) is „zweiundzwanzig“ or "two-and-twenty". Ninety-six (96) is „sechsundneunzig" or "six-and-ninety".
So what about any digits beyond that? Not affected by this weird ruling. One-hundred-twenty-five (125) is „einhundertfünfundzwanzig“, or "one-hundred-five-and-twenty".
Still way better than doing multiplication just to say a single number lol
Didn't English used to be like that? The song Big Iron pokes fun at this by saying that the outlaw had notches on his pistol counting "one and nineteen more", which of course is just 20...
I agree but the translation of 80 is too literal quatre-vingt means four twenties, not four twenty.
Oui
Actually... yes, we do say "sixty-ten" for 70, but it's not "sixty-ten-nine" for 79, it's "sixty-nineteen" (still "soixante-dix-neuf", though) why am i so sure it's 60+19 and not 60+10+9 even though i dont have any language degree or anything like that and that it's pronouced the same ? Well, because for 71, it's not "sixty-ten-one" (soixante-dix-un ?) it's "sixty-and-eleven" (soixante et onze). And it's like that for all seventies and the nineties (i dont know if this last sentence is understandable, and i dont care)
Blaze it.
Salute the Belgians and Swiss
999,999 is basically 9 100 4 20 10 9 1000 9 100 4 20 10 9
barbarorum 😭
Wow
This is hurts my brain
Sixty-Ten
Boards Of Canada reference?
So if you want to smoke some weed in France you'd go for some 80?
The belge say it differently, same for the swisserlander, no idea for the québécois
Dix-nuef = deez nutz
Fifty ten hull
Your voice i cant 😫
He sounds like a twink
Seems horribly inefficient
Wait till you get to German 😂
.....why?
Do what to my neuf?
Rememer danish number system is more wierd
The French always were weird
Swiss French makes more sense
50 19
Not as bad as Danish numbers.
And we all agreed to let the French do this why?