"i used to be with it! then they changed what 'it' was! now what i'm with isn't it, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me! it'll happen to YOU!" - abe simpson
Funnily enough, while I had played Super Mario 64 as a kid, I have far more fond memories of the DS version. I never got far in the original game, but I actually managed to beat the DS version. Plus in the DS version you get to play as Yoshi and Luigi, two of my favorite Mario characters. How could I go back to the original when the DS version has Yoshi and Luigi?!
Until 3D All-stars released, I almost exclusively played the DS version because it was handheld lol. I'd still have the occasional N64 session but the DS was more common for me until All-stars
And my Favorite thing about 64 DS is playing Multiplayer On the Mini games I remember spending long Bus trips playing Luigi Poker with my Friends it was Fun
This video definitely made me think about the nature of nostalgia. While I’m personally not the kind of person who says that “the experiences of my generation are better,” I do think that there’s something to be said about nostalgia for our past experiences being unique for each generation of people. There won’t ever be another generation after us who knows what it’s like to experience the jump from 2D games to 3D games. I was part of that group of people who didn’t really experience what the SNES was like before my family got the N64. I was basically a baby when my older brother bought our N64 from Toys R Us (which is a memory I can vividly recall parts of). Aside from my wealth of experience playing GameBoy after the N64’s release, I never really knew what it meant to play 2D games before playing the N64. The way I see it, if each generation’s (and each individual’s) experiences with nostalgia is unique, then I think it may be a disservice to say whose version of nostalgia is better. Instead of saying which is better, we owe it as unique beings to share what our own experiences are like, and how they differ and compare with the experiences of others. Without your set of experiences, I would never know what it’s like to truly jump from 2D to 3D. But without my set of experiences, nobody who came before me nor after me would know what it was like to grow up with my first memories of video games being during the generation where that jump to 3D happened. While our experiences are similar, they are also different in some ways. And it’s the uniqueness of each of our personal perspectives that makes those perspectives so precious. There is no other person exactly like each one of us; we are all, in some way, unique beings. We should always cherish that, no matter who we are. No matter which generation we talk about.
Well put :) . I like how documented opinions of different video game generations are. Someone could actually watch 2 entire different reviews of the same game depending on if the video was uploaded a year ago or 10 years ago. It's very interesting to analyze
Great retrospective! I think nostalgia occurs because of emotional connections we make to positive memories that we want to keep. Triggers like graphic, music and even camera controls transports us back to when we first played the game, and the positive memories associated with it. This game is one of the best!
Awesome stuff! I've met a few people that experienced a lot of the most popular N64 games on wiiu and switch and they usually have positive views of those games
121? There's only 120. There's a glitched one on cool cool mountain but nobody has collected it. And if you mean after you beat bower 3, that's not a collectable star.
I was approximately NintenDeen's age, being someone who was born around the start of the SNES era and whose demographic landed within the N64 generation. However, my parents never bought me an N64 (chalk it up to stinginess, or being dolts who didn't expect video games to be as mainstream as they are now). Thus, it took me until the Gamecube days to really sink my teeth into console gaming, so the Mario platformer that I grew up with was Super Mario Sunshine. I remember playing Super Mario 64 at our cousins' place as they owned the console, but had to play on one of their save files (they were a family of four children), so I didn't actually experience a fresh playthrough where the game guides you a bit more in detail. When I went back to Super Mario 64 via the Wii's Virtual Console, the reality of a generation's graphics being behind what I was used to plus the stiff camera controls were an obstacle. Nowadays, the only star that I flat-out can't complete ever is Mario Over the Rainbow, because it doesn't just make you fail when you fail, it puts you all the way back outside the castle, in which losing a life would be merciful. I never got the chance to play Super Mario 64 DS for the same reasons; I didn't own a DS. And I guess I lost my chance when I didn't buy the game on the Wii U's Virtual Console. From what I've heard it could be compared to Dead Rising 2: Off the Record to Dead Rising 2; not a replacement, but its own separate adaptation with changes, for better and for worse.
Thanks for sharing, this was fun to read. weirdly nostalgic even though it has nothing to do with me lol. Honestly I spent most of my life assuming 64 DS was clearly superior. Didn't even know it was debated until I was well in my 20s lol
@@NintenDeen From an outside standpoint it's perfectly reasonable to come to that conclusion. A lot of the negatives come from the fact that the DS only comes with a touchpad and D-Pad, so the sense of more precise control via a stick is lost (and no, the 3DS' circle pad is only a band-aid solution). But the level design accommodates for that handicap. And as you mentioned, the start of the game deviates so wildly by having Yoshi as the first playable character and Mario the unlockable that the DS version can't exactly be considered the definitive replacement like how All-Stars was for the NES games. It begs the question of how things would be if a more straightforward remake would have been on the 3DS, using the controls from Super Mario 3D Land as a template.
When my i saved my allowance to get my own n64 my brother (who was an adult at the time) gave me his copy of mario 64. We used to discuss n64 games from mario and wave race up to GoldenEye and perfect dark. He would share his game guide secrets and id share little secrets and tricks I learned (being a kid i had more play time of course) when he passed back a few years back i swore id 120 star it as i never did as a kid. I made a little ritual every day of doing a few stars till eventually i did it. I miss him tremendously of course and intended to 100% ocarina of time as well.( OOT was my first zelda and i played it at his house.) My point is i had a ton of fun starting these games over from nothing and im thinking of deleting my save and doing it again. I encourage you all to do the same with your old saves. I promise its worh it.
Nostalgia is not limited merely to our own experiences. Lots of people experience nostalgia for times before they even existed (like the culture of the 1940s, 50s, and 60s). It's an emotion about an idealized place and time, which in hindsight seems simpler and/or less corrupted. Video games are unique in that you can actually interactively re-experience that exact place and time but nothing has changed in that world. The actual world may have changed, but Mario World has not. Video games are still a young media. Future generations will feel nostalgia for games like Mario 64 even if they didn't play it first until decades later. It will represent an idealized, simpler place in time, regardless of the fact they never actually experienced that time period themselves.
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Kinda weird but I have a lot of nostalgia for super mario 63 (fanmade 2d remake) I played it around 2010 for the first time and it was like my favourite game, in my country most people didn't have consoles back then so we just played pc games/flash games
I’d say I fit that description decently well… to an extent. Personally, I’d consider Mario 64 a part of my childhood despite its age. Though I think Zelda is a series that really captures that sort of mindset to me. Funnily enough, I got into the series in 2017, the same year BotW released, but I still feel like I connect so much more with the older formula. Don’t get me wrong, I liked BotW and had fun with it, but my real darlings have easily ended up as Skyward Sword and OoT3D. And then there’s TotK… for it being the first new release in the series since I’d been a fan, I was… disappointed I suppose. I had fun with it, but I lost interest in it much faster than other games in the series due in part to it feeling derivative and in part to it feeling actively spiteful to the parts of the series that I liked most. But anyway, I certainly think my “retro phase” had a big impact on me, and I have what I figure are formative memories of games that originated on much older consoles (though admittedly I couldn’t ever get into anything older than the N64).
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"i used to be with it! then they changed what 'it' was! now what i'm with isn't it, and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me! it'll happen to YOU!"
- abe simpson
This is exactly what this is about
Funnily enough, while I had played Super Mario 64 as a kid, I have far more fond memories of the DS version. I never got far in the original game, but I actually managed to beat the DS version. Plus in the DS version you get to play as Yoshi and Luigi, two of my favorite Mario characters. How could I go back to the original when the DS version has Yoshi and Luigi?!
Until 3D All-stars released, I almost exclusively played the DS version because it was handheld lol. I'd still have the occasional N64 session but the DS was more common for me until All-stars
And my Favorite thing about 64 DS is playing Multiplayer On the Mini games I remember spending long Bus trips playing Luigi Poker with my Friends it was Fun
This video definitely made me think about the nature of nostalgia. While I’m personally not the kind of person who says that “the experiences of my generation are better,” I do think that there’s something to be said about nostalgia for our past experiences being unique for each generation of people.
There won’t ever be another generation after us who knows what it’s like to experience the jump from 2D games to 3D games. I was part of that group of people who didn’t really experience what the SNES was like before my family got the N64. I was basically a baby when my older brother bought our N64 from Toys R Us (which is a memory I can vividly recall parts of). Aside from my wealth of experience playing GameBoy after the N64’s release, I never really knew what it meant to play 2D games before playing the N64.
The way I see it, if each generation’s (and each individual’s) experiences with nostalgia is unique, then I think it may be a disservice to say whose version of nostalgia is better. Instead of saying which is better, we owe it as unique beings to share what our own experiences are like, and how they differ and compare with the experiences of others. Without your set of experiences, I would never know what it’s like to truly jump from 2D to 3D. But without my set of experiences, nobody who came before me nor after me would know what it was like to grow up with my first memories of video games being during the generation where that jump to 3D happened.
While our experiences are similar, they are also different in some ways. And it’s the uniqueness of each of our personal perspectives that makes those perspectives so precious. There is no other person exactly like each one of us; we are all, in some way, unique beings. We should always cherish that, no matter who we are. No matter which generation we talk about.
Well put :) . I like how documented opinions of different video game generations are. Someone could actually watch 2 entire different reviews of the same game depending on if the video was uploaded a year ago or 10 years ago. It's very interesting to analyze
Great retrospective! I think nostalgia occurs because of emotional connections we make to positive memories that we want to keep. Triggers like graphic, music and even camera controls transports us back to when we first played the game, and the positive memories associated with it.
This game is one of the best!
Glad you enjoyed it 😊.
And yeah nostalgia trips are a hell of a thing, and why I'm still obsessed with retro games lol.
I'm just here for the nostalgia.
I first played Mario 64 on Wii Virtual console in January of 2010. I met the 121 star challenge. What a great game!
Awesome stuff! I've met a few people that experienced a lot of the most popular N64 games on wiiu and switch and they usually have positive views of those games
121? There's only 120.
There's a glitched one on cool cool mountain but nobody has collected it.
And if you mean after you beat bower 3, that's not a collectable star.
I was approximately NintenDeen's age, being someone who was born around the start of the SNES era and whose demographic landed within the N64 generation. However, my parents never bought me an N64 (chalk it up to stinginess, or being dolts who didn't expect video games to be as mainstream as they are now). Thus, it took me until the Gamecube days to really sink my teeth into console gaming, so the Mario platformer that I grew up with was Super Mario Sunshine. I remember playing Super Mario 64 at our cousins' place as they owned the console, but had to play on one of their save files (they were a family of four children), so I didn't actually experience a fresh playthrough where the game guides you a bit more in detail. When I went back to Super Mario 64 via the Wii's Virtual Console, the reality of a generation's graphics being behind what I was used to plus the stiff camera controls were an obstacle. Nowadays, the only star that I flat-out can't complete ever is Mario Over the Rainbow, because it doesn't just make you fail when you fail, it puts you all the way back outside the castle, in which losing a life would be merciful.
I never got the chance to play Super Mario 64 DS for the same reasons; I didn't own a DS. And I guess I lost my chance when I didn't buy the game on the Wii U's Virtual Console. From what I've heard it could be compared to Dead Rising 2: Off the Record to Dead Rising 2; not a replacement, but its own separate adaptation with changes, for better and for worse.
Thanks for sharing, this was fun to read. weirdly nostalgic even though it has nothing to do with me lol. Honestly I spent most of my life assuming 64 DS was clearly superior. Didn't even know it was debated until I was well in my 20s lol
@@NintenDeen From an outside standpoint it's perfectly reasonable to come to that conclusion. A lot of the negatives come from the fact that the DS only comes with a touchpad and D-Pad, so the sense of more precise control via a stick is lost (and no, the 3DS' circle pad is only a band-aid solution). But the level design accommodates for that handicap. And as you mentioned, the start of the game deviates so wildly by having Yoshi as the first playable character and Mario the unlockable that the DS version can't exactly be considered the definitive replacement like how All-Stars was for the NES games.
It begs the question of how things would be if a more straightforward remake would have been on the 3DS, using the controls from Super Mario 3D Land as a template.
When my i saved my allowance to get my own n64 my brother (who was an adult at the time) gave me his copy of mario 64. We used to discuss n64 games from mario and wave race up to GoldenEye and perfect dark. He would share his game guide secrets and id share little secrets and tricks I learned (being a kid i had more play time of course) when he passed back a few years back i swore id 120 star it as i never did as a kid. I made a little ritual every day of doing a few stars till eventually i did it. I miss him tremendously of course and intended to 100% ocarina of time as well.( OOT was my first zelda and i played it at his house.) My point is i had a ton of fun starting these games over from nothing and im thinking of deleting my save and doing it again. I encourage you all to do the same with your old saves. I promise its worh it.
Hey this was actually a nice comment. Thanks for sharing that story. Sorry for your loss
Nostalgia is not limited merely to our own experiences. Lots of people experience nostalgia for times before they even existed (like the culture of the 1940s, 50s, and 60s).
It's an emotion about an idealized place and time, which in hindsight seems simpler and/or less corrupted.
Video games are unique in that you can actually interactively re-experience that exact place and time but nothing has changed in that world. The actual world may have changed, but Mario World has not.
Video games are still a young media. Future generations will feel nostalgia for games like Mario 64 even if they didn't play it first until decades later. It will represent an idealized, simpler place in time, regardless of the fact they never actually experienced that time period themselves.
Guys honestly this was not about Mario 64, this was a heavy psychology lesson regarding nostalgia. Good job brother!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed
let's be honest, games WERE better back then
🤫 don't scare away the kiddos
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*Indie games*
perfect profile picture for your comment LMAO
@@scarletshadowzz I didn't even realise it was cranky Kong 💀 XD
@@scarletshadowzz thank you
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Thanks! I hope you had/have a great holiday as well :)
I love Mario 64 it was my Very first Video game I played it back in 1999 when I was 3 years old
My Retro Origin game!
And I Cried at how Good Odyssey was I love that Game
I didn't cry but I definitely felt the magic of Mario 64 in it. Hit me right in the feels lol
Kinda weird but I have a lot of nostalgia for super mario 63 (fanmade 2d remake)
I played it around 2010 for the first time and it was like my favourite game, in my country most people didn't have consoles back then so we just played pc games/flash games
Lol I've always wanted to try Mario 63. I should give it a go
@ yeah it is awesome, basicly super mario 64, sunshine and galaxy combined into a 2d game
Ah yes, my favorite 3d platformer.
Wait youre gonna be talking about this game every day
Yeah I basically doing 10-15 mins a day on each stage and its stars.
Bro i like your little avatar.
Thanks, I made it myself using a wario sprite and paint 3D 😂😂
Don't run out of lives, you might have to run up some stairs to get back to the level knowmsayin 😂
A lot of Gen Z kids are playing retro games and there's some of them that will tell you that our games were better than the games of today
Those are the enlightened zee'ers
I’d say I fit that description decently well… to an extent. Personally, I’d consider Mario 64 a part of my childhood despite its age. Though I think Zelda is a series that really captures that sort of mindset to me. Funnily enough, I got into the series in 2017, the same year BotW released, but I still feel like I connect so much more with the older formula. Don’t get me wrong, I liked BotW and had fun with it, but my real darlings have easily ended up as Skyward Sword and OoT3D. And then there’s TotK… for it being the first new release in the series since I’d been a fan, I was… disappointed I suppose. I had fun with it, but I lost interest in it much faster than other games in the series due in part to it feeling derivative and in part to it feeling actively spiteful to the parts of the series that I liked most. But anyway, I certainly think my “retro phase” had a big impact on me, and I have what I figure are formative memories of games that originated on much older consoles (though admittedly I couldn’t ever get into anything older than the N64).
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