Why do Solrock and Lunatone Even Exist?

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  • @ShayTheValiant
    @ShayTheValiant Місяць тому +146

    GameFreak: makes games called Sun and Moon, includes an event involving the original sun and moon Pokémon
    Also GameFreak: the original sun and moon Pokémon can't be caught in the Sun and Moon games

    • @ryanthecringeanimator9541
      @ryanthecringeanimator9541 Місяць тому +27

      Also also GameFreak: we turned off all online for the 3ds too so now you can't even trade them to Sun and Moon

    • @LaprasTrainerLiam98
      @LaprasTrainerLiam98 Місяць тому

      ​@@ryanthecringeanimator9541Actually, if you still have Pokemon Bank on your 3DS, you can still transfer it over for now.
      (Also, that was Nintendo that did that, not Gamefreak.)

    • @darthfastball1150
      @darthfastball1150 Місяць тому +9

      I think their exclusion is likely due to the fact that it might confuse a new player into believing they had some kind of importance to the story.

    • @LaprasTrainerLiam98
      @LaprasTrainerLiam98 Місяць тому

      @@ryanthecringeanimator9541 Actually, that was N i n t e n d o, not Gamefreak, so don't blame them. And even then, if you still have Bank on your System before the store closed, the server is still at the time of writing this, so you can still transfer it.

    • @ryanthecringeanimator9541
      @ryanthecringeanimator9541 Місяць тому +4

      @@darthfastball1150 but they are important to the story. Completing the Pokédex is the main goal of all Pokémon games and your told early on to catch them all

  • @boraccichannel
    @boraccichannel Місяць тому +79

    Solrock should have Drought and Lunatone should have Psychic Terrain.

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  Місяць тому +22

      That would go hard ☀️ 🌙

    • @KosmoZer0
      @KosmoZer0 Місяць тому +15

      Seems more like a Hidden Abilities kind of thing but I can get behind this.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 Місяць тому +5

      I'm for this

  • @rockubyte
    @rockubyte Місяць тому +53

    I have a shiny Solrock named "Kepler" and a shiny Lunatone named "Galileo." I wish Pokémon did more with them, I think they're lovely.

  • @nedrostram2360
    @nedrostram2360 Місяць тому +21

    Solrock and Lunatone like Plusle/Minun and Volbeat/Illumise were created for the double battle feature.

  • @KosmoZer0
    @KosmoZer0 Місяць тому +73

    I kind of feel like Solrock, Lunatone and Minior (from Gen 7) should share some kind of connection as the Pokédex entries calls Solrock and Lunatone the Meteorite Pokémon and Minior the Meteor Pokémon but it's just a head theory of mine, Minior came out much later after several Generations and it seems that Solrock and Lunatone (much like Plusle and Minun) were made in to a set for marketing purposes. It would be very interesting to see these two with Mega Evolution's in Legends Z-A and I can imagine some pretty interesting designs for them too but I wonder what everyone else thinks.

    • @neodica5967
      @neodica5967 Місяць тому +6

      I want them to be connected in some way too, but for some reason they've never been in the same game together. It'd be cool if one day they were found at the same meteor site or at least on a specific trainer's team since they're literally the sun, moon, and stars.

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  Місяць тому +11

      I do kind of like how Minior feels a bit like a little addition to them, but of course, it’s still its own thing.

    • @LanaTheSockPuppeteer
      @LanaTheSockPuppeteer Місяць тому +5

      A Mega Lunatone or Solrock would actually be sick!

    • @zygarbodor1098
      @zygarbodor1098 17 днів тому

      @@neodica5967 I'm not sure if them being connected would make much sense. Minior are said to be "born in the ozone layer," meaning they're not an extraterrestrial species like Solrock and Lunatone may be. Still, it'd definitely be cool to see them in the same game one day. Kinda weird that they weren't in the Indigo Disk; the Canyon Biome would've been a perfect place for them.

  • @ScarletRebel96
    @ScarletRebel96 Місяць тому +33

    You take the Moon 🌙 and you take the Sun 🌞 🎶 🎵

    • @nuclearpzn
      @nuclearpzn Місяць тому +10

      YOU TAKE EVERYTHING THAT SEEMS LIKE FUN

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 Місяць тому +9

      You stir it all up, and when you're done!

    • @yesilovenachos
      @yesilovenachos Місяць тому +8

      Radda radda radda rara radda radda

  • @edenanimates1465
    @edenanimates1465 Місяць тому +80

    “Past the moon and the sun and we don’t know why”

  • @esdeathsenpai5128
    @esdeathsenpai5128 Місяць тому +13

    I'm glad you cited the most important source of scientific knowledge, the Yugioh anime

  • @VerdantRange
    @VerdantRange Місяць тому +16

    One thing that bugged me was how it took until Shield to legitimately get Lunatone in a Moon Ball.

  • @ProfessorTakatoPalm
    @ProfessorTakatoPalm Місяць тому +16

    Funny thought, is it possible that Moon Stones and Sun Stones are broken parts of them?

  • @nicocchi
    @nicocchi Місяць тому +6

    A notable thing about them is that they're one of the very very very VERY few region locked Pokémon in GO (yes, Niantic absolutely wants you to buy plane tickets for a virtual creature) that actually swap their region exclusivity every so often.
    So you could have Lunatone available right now but next year you might have Solrock, while Lunatone is on the other side of the world

  • @Zepimo123
    @Zepimo123 Місяць тому +18

    I think the dude in USUM is a reference to Star Trek, but I may be wrong. the red shirt and the way he vanishes makes me think that.
    edit: was thinking about it again and it has to be. they used the closest model they had to Picard.

  • @ShadyRK9
    @ShadyRK9 Місяць тому +16

    Wait... So the ORIGINAL Sun and Moon Pokémon wasn't even obtainable IN Sun and Moon?! 🧐

  • @danielferrieri7434
    @danielferrieri7434 Місяць тому +21

    Martin’s Solrock used Cosmic Power

  • @IgnitedQuils
    @IgnitedQuils Місяць тому +7

    These Pokémon are literal examples of how the 3rd generation is big on counterparts. Even some that look very similar but aren’t related in terms of evolution. Them, Plusle + Minun and Volbeat + Illumise. I’m not counting the legendary mascots, the golems or the Latis as those are obvious.

    • @Deathnotefan97
      @Deathnotefan97 Місяць тому +2

      Volbeat and Illumise are literally the same Pokémon, they are the equivalent to the Nidorans

  • @ExiILe00
    @ExiILe00 Місяць тому +4

    “My planet needs me.”

  • @jbcatz5
    @jbcatz5 Місяць тому +3

    Gen 3 did also introduce Deoxys, another alien and linked to a well known urban legend for Gen 3 in Mossdeep City (home of Tate and Liza). In the anime iirc Tate and Liza are used to fighting in zero g, perhaps giving their Lunatone and Solrock a battle space more akin to their place of origin.

  • @mazharsiddiqi7288
    @mazharsiddiqi7288 Місяць тому +6

    Would've been fun if Pokémon Mystery Club were more involved in the space episodes like Deoxys
    And maybe even in the Ultra Beast episodes

  • @KuroBlitz
    @KuroBlitz Місяць тому +11

    "Discovered 40 years ago"... yet both show up in AZ's cutscene :V

    • @bobsponge8539
      @bobsponge8539 Місяць тому +2

      Perhaps they were forgotten and lost to time until the modern pokemon world, it was over 3,000 years ago after all

    • @edgargaebolg9307
      @edgargaebolg9307 Місяць тому +1

      Just like how Steel type was recently discovered in GSC but Hisuians knew about it

  • @JD-iu6rv
    @JD-iu6rv Місяць тому +6

    I figured they existed only to show off double battles

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  Місяць тому +3

      lol yep basically. Basically same with Plusle and Minun.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Місяць тому +5

    I'd definitely want to see them get some evos to buff their stats and bring them back to relevance

  • @dannykazari
    @dannykazari Місяць тому +4

    I really like this video style of yours because it's informative while also chill and casual

  • @probablyastarfish9174
    @probablyastarfish9174 Місяць тому +2

    So if Lunatone's dex entry about it being discovered 40 years ago is true, that would mean that Solrock's arrival predates Lunatone's since it's depicted in the Kalos war

    • @Glitchhead
      @Glitchhead 29 днів тому

      I think I saw both in the cutscene actually. But if that were the case, aside from just general Pokédex entry discrepancies, the discovery of the species doesn’t = it’s time of arrival on earth necessarily. We’re still discovering new animal species to this day after all.

  • @ShadowsWrath4
    @ShadowsWrath4 Місяць тому +8

    Mega Solrock when? Mega Lunatone when? Evolve via Sun Stone when? Evolve via Moon Stone when?

  • @LillyWhiteFairy
    @LillyWhiteFairy Місяць тому +1

    I used them both in my mystery dungeon remake playthrough in the post game and were not only fun to use but did pretty good together.

  • @zygarbodor1098
    @zygarbodor1098 17 днів тому

    One thing I find interesting about Solrock and Lunatone is which regions they're native to. So far, they've appeared in four regional Pokédexes: Hoenn, Unova, Kalos, and Galar. With the exception of Kalos, all of those regions are ones which have had major impact events in the past. Unova's Giant Chasm was created by a meteorite impact, as was Sootopolis City in Hoenn. Also, while the exact impact site is unknown, we do know that a meteorite containing Eternatus landed in Galar 20,000 years before the events of Sword and Shield. While Lunatone (and presumably Solrock) were canonically discovered 40 years ago, and those impact events are much older, I still find it interesting that they keep showing up in places where these kinds of events occur.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 Місяць тому +1

    (2:14) You make a good point here. Version exclusives are not given this much thought. In the developers defense, this would be tricky to pull off in other generations.

  • @nuclearpzn
    @nuclearpzn Місяць тому +1

    Always had a softspot for these Pokemon. Especially Lunatone because I grew up with Sapphire, and I really love the moon.

  • @VenusTeNecesita
    @VenusTeNecesita 19 днів тому +1

    Once I had both a solrock and a lunatone, I called them "Sunrein" and "Lunaria" and I married them on the PC with the Sky background, I took out my entire team, letting a pluse on the team space to let all of them see the event
    I gave them to a guy Wi-Fi via, holding a letter saying "Sunny day" and "Rain Dance"

  • @cis22
    @cis22 Місяць тому +1

    My only gripe about Gen 3 Solrock and Lunatone is that you can farm Sun Stones and Moon Stones from them. This makes the unlimited availability of such items also version exclusives. And as of Gen 3, there were definitely more pokémon that need a Moon Stone than those that need a Sun Stone so there is an imbalance in those two items being counterparts.

  • @edenanimates1465
    @edenanimates1465 Місяць тому

    “Night day, it’s all okay, the choice is yours a cosmic buffet”

  • @scottmurphy6159
    @scottmurphy6159 Місяць тому

    I really look forward to your videos now. I actively hope there’s one there when I open UA-cam. Honestly your content and ideas are so fresh and interesting it made me love Pokémon even more! Thanks for all you do it’s truly inspiring

  • @CosmicCorviknight
    @CosmicCorviknight Місяць тому +1

    It's a strange thought that in the Pokémon world in living memory these species were completely unknown but are now incredibly common across multiple regions and live with trainers in their houses. Imagine if we had some kind of cool pet animals which were unknown as recently the 1970s

  • @Fr4yDay
    @Fr4yDay Місяць тому +1

    I’m kinda surprised they didn’t give us more Alolan Forms with the Ultra games, and Solrock and Lunatone seemed like prime contenders for that :/

  • @LaprasTrainerLiam98
    @LaprasTrainerLiam98 Місяць тому +3

    I actually like these guys despite the 'eh' kind of stats. They remind us that Pokemon games are still RPG's at their core, and something that all RPG's do at their core is world build. So having these two do a good job at giving us an idea early on that Pokemon can truly come from Outer Space was really fascinating to me growing up. Plus, Tate & Liza being able to use them decently also play a part in ehy I like them. And that's something I always appreciate when Pokemon games do. 😌

  • @ChevyboyCaprice_
    @ChevyboyCaprice_ Місяць тому +1

    When I first found Solrock in Meteor Falls, I had to catch it. I'm just waitin to come across Lunatone now

    • @Idonotknowofname
      @Idonotknowofname Місяць тому +1

      You can't get Lunatone in Ruby or Emerald you have to get it in Sapphire

    • @ChevyboyCaprice_
      @ChevyboyCaprice_ Місяць тому

      @@Idonotknowofname damn! Good looking out. I would've been tryin without knowin

  • @mikearonYT
    @mikearonYT Місяць тому +1

    Martins solrock can never be forgiven!

  • @termitesc.aardwolf3644
    @termitesc.aardwolf3644 Місяць тому +1

    Because we needed a Rock/Psychic dual type.

  • @ClefairyFairySnowflake
    @ClefairyFairySnowflake Місяць тому +2

    Solrock and Lunatone exist because they exist, although it would be nice to get a lore explanation as to how they came to be. They are just psychic sentient rocks from space that just so happen to resemble our sun and moon. 🌞🌛 Solrock and Lunatone are some of the coolest pokemon in the franchise. Hopefully someday we can learn more about them in new dex entries, or something of the sort. But I think they might be related to Baltoy and Claydol in some way. They must be ancient. Historical pokemon are very neat! 😁😎

  • @DanielisAwesome52
    @DanielisAwesome52 Місяць тому +2

    I wonder if they are related to Minior

  • @MutohMech
    @MutohMech Місяць тому

    I love their designs, specially the eyes. There's truly something alien and at the same time wild about them, like true extraterrestrial fauna finding a habitat in earth

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 Місяць тому

    C-Moon
    Solrock also looks like a compass

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Місяць тому +2

    When will we get pokemon earth and moon? Travel to space and battle space gym leaders

  • @Doliwhop
    @Doliwhop Місяць тому

    I always loved their addition to gen 3, because it is the gen where we also got Deoxys, so I always wondered if they'd ever make some hard connection between all three.
    The only gripe I'll ever have about the two, is that I thought Lunatone should have gotten as many Ice moves, as Solrock did Fire.

  • @deaderontheinside6871
    @deaderontheinside6871 Місяць тому

    I remember as a kid sending my lunatone to my friend with Ruby while i took care of her solrock. With the idea that they'd allow us to catch the other in our own games. Even though no solrock or deoxys showed up, i still like my weird moon rock.

  • @badwalnutt
    @badwalnutt Місяць тому

    love the attention you’re giving these two. solrock is also just way better

  • @TaLeng2023
    @TaLeng2023 Місяць тому

    Their main role in Gen 3 is as renewable sources of Sun and Moon Stones. 😭

  • @MRgreen65
    @MRgreen65 Місяць тому +1

    I love solrock it's so awesome and the design of it is fantastic good job game freak❤❤❤

  • @furball192
    @furball192 Місяць тому

    I always loved solrock and lunatone

  • @staydetermined6717
    @staydetermined6717 Місяць тому +1

    They would really benefit from a special rock type move that isn’t ancient power
    Do they even learn ancient power?

    • @edgargaebolg9307
      @edgargaebolg9307 Місяць тому

      They learn Meteor Beam and I'm sure that Power Gem too

  • @Emsha
    @Emsha Місяць тому

    cannot end the video until i see quaggo

  • @ianfinrir8724
    @ianfinrir8724 Місяць тому +1

    I just think they're neat.

  • @dannyj8227
    @dannyj8227 5 днів тому

    more like why do the sun and moon even exist

  • @alexfischer7876
    @alexfischer7876 Місяць тому

    Because of the same reason that *_Stellith_* and *_Planite_* of _Pokemon Altair/Sirius/Vega_ exist.

    • @Idonotknowofname
      @Idonotknowofname Місяць тому

      What

    • @alexfischer7876
      @alexfischer7876 Місяць тому

      @@Idonotknowofname
      Google _Pokemon Altair, Sirius, Vega, Procyon and Deneb_ to find the answer.

  • @rockowlgamer631
    @rockowlgamer631 Місяць тому +1

    Would be kind of nice if they got a slight stat buff.

    • @KosmoZer0
      @KosmoZer0 Місяць тому

      That's why I think they should get their own Mega Evolution's in my opinion, I think that's the best solution to this at this point.

    • @edgargaebolg9307
      @edgargaebolg9307 Місяць тому

      ​@@KosmoZer0 Mawile and Beedrill are examples of why making a Pokémon viable only with a gimmick they can remove or reintroduce at will is not good

  • @shuuichissaihara
    @shuuichissaihara Місяць тому

    To give me childhood trauma
    That's why

  • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
    @Jelly_shy_guy_man Місяць тому +1

    Hear me out what if a fall guy appeared in smash bros, I’m only gonna say the final smash and one move, soooo you can make the rest of the fall guys movie so he’s final smash is that he throws 2 big bouncey yeetas so that’s it I gotta sleep so I lied

    • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
      @Jelly_shy_guy_man Місяць тому +1

      And the move is that he throws a lily pad and he can jump on it

  • @gladigatorrawr1480
    @gladigatorrawr1480 Місяць тому

    Same reason we all exist...
    To suffer 😔

  • @HeyHeyChey
    @HeyHeyChey Місяць тому

    Lovely vid

  • @philipmurphy2
    @philipmurphy2 Місяць тому

    Lovely video

  • @slyfox7452
    @slyfox7452 Місяць тому

    I really like lunatone its sunken in eye and beak is really cool. Solrock has always been kinda lame to me

  • @phorchybug3286
    @phorchybug3286 Місяць тому

    I think they're cool.

  • @deg8517
    @deg8517 Місяць тому

    because theyre cool. next question (i should probably watch the video)

  • @Idonotknowofname
    @Idonotknowofname Місяць тому

    Because they're cool.

  • @edenanimates1465
    @edenanimates1465 Місяць тому +2

    Lunatone is basically like
    “Hello Caine, I love you”
    While solrock is basically like
    “Hi Caine, I’m going to kill you’

  • @snarkychan7504
    @snarkychan7504 Місяць тому

    They're cute??

  • @RickyRiceB
    @RickyRiceB Місяць тому

    DONT DISS THEM THEY EXIST BECAUSE THEY UM YHEY UHHHH TH UNM UHHHH?????
    A lot of the “filler” mons are some of my lowkey favs it’s just a shame that they tend to not be all that powerful. Failure of trying to add a early game fully evolved pokemon

  • @mattguy1773
    @mattguy1773 Місяць тому +1

    Virgin solrock and lunatone vs absolute units solgaleo and lunala

    • @GatorEX
      @GatorEX  Місяць тому +2

      It’s the other way around 😎

  • @texaspoontappa9653
    @texaspoontappa9653 Місяць тому

    I do not think about either, because they are just filler. Nothing else.

  • @bootybiscuit1561
    @bootybiscuit1561 Місяць тому

    Heck yeah. more sun and moon content