Always Prevent Your Coco or Coco-Peat Soil From Drying Out, Here's Why
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- Опубліковано 24 сер 2024
- We wanted to show and explain the necessity of coco growers in keeping your medium watered and fed routinely to prevent over-drying. High-aeration mixtures of coco are great for heavy-feeding, but can easily dry-out if neglected. If your coco blend is allowed to over dry, growers can struggle to re-establish and maintain peak performance in their plants. When the coco-based soil becomes too dry, the delicate fine root-hairs and feeder roots quickly die off. The recovery time for this stress is slow and can reduce yields come harvest time.
In the goal of a perfectly grown plant, a huge benefit to growers is that the coco fiber is hydrophilic. Hydrophilic means that the coco fibers easily absorb and hold water. However, if you are using aerated mixtures with perlite, this ability to hold moisture within the container is lessened. Some coco blends also contain peat-moss, which is hydrophobic, now hydrophobic means that the peat repels water, kind of like oil repels water. This addition of peat to coco, increases the necessity for consistent watering. Forest humus is also often used in coco blends, which will dry out easily and contribute to fine root damage.
High quality coco fiber has an excellent cation exchange capacity. This means the coco benefits a plants ability to eat and produce large yields. If you allow your containers or beds to dry out too much, you greatly compromise the coco’s capillary ability. Dry soil retracts and compresses, reducing capillary action. Much like a dry sponge sheers water away, a moist sponge will absorb water rapidly. Think of your coco fiber as a sponge.
Well buffered coco shouldn’t necessarily require a calcium charge, but after transplanting we recommend a good foliar application of Plant Amp to help fortify the plant with calcium and minimize transplant shock.
Coco fiber loves to hold calcium, and doesn’t want to share it with your plants. If we foliar apply Plant Amp during daylight, we deliver that necessary calcium directly into the plants stomata to the middle lamella of the leaf where it is stored.
Is 3 days to dry down bad? First time coco user. Jus used recharge on 9 day old seedlings and they seem like not praying to the sun god. Soil grow right next to it is doing great
Nice presentation Big Brother ....well thought through ,, and clear
I’m new and this explanation was good
Excellent video, thanks
what if i buffed coco and didnt need all of it and let it dry can u still use it after 3 months of just being in pot and drying?
yes
You want to go from moist after watering to damp when dry.
Hahaha, Sonoma County, that is where I was born. I'm trying to dry out my coir peat to use in a paludarium. I need it dry to adhere to the silicon.
@CuttingEdgeSolutions.. THANX FOR UR HARD WORK..
If my soil and mother plants have accidentally dried to the point where my plants wilt but come back to life after watering, will my AROMAS & FLAVORS of my cannabis flowers not be able to be TOP SHELF ANYMORE EVEN AFTER A FEW WEEKS HAVE PASSED AFTER THE INCIDENT & MOMS LOOKING GREAT?
OR WILL HIGH GRADE PLANTS STILL PRODUCE VERY HIGH GRADE FLOWERS (EVEN IF THEYVE DRIED & WILTED IN THE PAST BUT (NOW) ARE WATERED PROPERLY?
I KNOW (YIELD) WILL DECREASE IF PLANTS DRY BUT ONCE THAT PROBLEMS (FIXED) & THEN (CLONES) OF THAT MOM ARE FLOWERED & THOSE CLONES (NEVER DRY OUT), WILL THOSE CLONES PRODUCE THE SAME HIGH GRADE FIRE TOP SHELF CANNABIS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO PRODUCE IN (THE FIRST PLACE BEFORE MOMS DRYING OUT?)
IM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF, BY MY (MOMS) DRYING & WILTING A FEW TIMES BUT (NOW) WELL WATERED FOR MONTHS & LOOKING GREAT, WILL I STILL GET THE HIGH QUALITY AROMAS & FLAVORS & POTENCY THAT I WAS (INITIALLY) GOING TO GET FROM THOSE SEEDS BECAUSE MOMS ARE FINE (NOW) & HEALTH IS (RESTORED) (OR)
BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE MOTHERS DRIED N WILTED A FEW TIMES BUT NOW OK FOR MONTHS, NOW IVE COMPROMISED THE QUALITY OF THE MOTHER PLANTS THAT WILL FOREVER PRODUCE LOWER QUALITY CLONES WITH LOWER QUALITY AROMAS & FLAVORS & POTENCY THAT THEY WERE (MEANT TO PRODUCE) HAD THEY NOT SUFFERED TEMPORARY DRYING & WILTING?
Also are there any BENEFITS to my temporary accudental dry spells on my Mothers such as A BUILT UP TOLERANCE FIR DROUGHT OR INCREASED POTENCY OR FLAVORS OR (SOMETHING) DUE TO SURVIVING DROUGHTS? SUCH AS HUMANS "What dont kill us makes us stronqer" or GRAPES that produce BETTER WINE WHEN THE GRAPES ARE GROWN IN (POOR SOIL TO STRESS A BIT)?
Im tryinq to determine if i ruined my mother plants by lettinq them STUNT AT AN EARLY AGE BUT ARE NOW RESTORED N WATERED CORRECTLY & shud start NEW SEEDS or if my STRESS ENDURING MOMS ARE (STILL) GOING TO BE FIRE & I SHUD JUST KEEP THEM?
THANK U.
ANYBODY KNOWLEDGABLE PLEASE REPLY SOON
IMO- its not that serious and dry spells in coco usually explode the root growth forcing them to work harder and look for water. Feed the coco very slowly so it sucks the water up like a sponge after a serious dry spell and let the mom bounce back before taking clones because you only want to clone from a thriving healthy mother plant anyway.
What are your thoughts on subfertigation vs over the top drain to waist! ?
I am also curious about using a subirrigation system with this. I am using Potting soil with a lot of peat in the mix so that it will wick water upwards to the young roots in my MRGGS. I am wondering if Coco is a good alternative so that I can use hydro nutrients.
Great video!
How is a foliar aplication of anything goes into the stomata?
You didn't show us how to rehydrate coco that is bone dry.
I just use a spray bottle to water really dried coco no need for wetting agent's.
Gr8 information.
How do you know how much to give them per watering. What would a 2 gallon pot minimum feeding be. A cup per feeding? How many times we talking per day.
Red Dead Dylan Gday buddy I know it’s been 5 months since you’re question but I will still tell you how I’ve always done it in coir & that is always make sure you get 10%-15% run off out the bottom & that causes the nutrient solution to pull new air down into the roots as well & you can then test your PH/EC of your run off as well.NEVER LET COCO DRY OUT FEED EVERYDAY AT LEAST 1ns per day man & remember don’t be afraid of over watering as coco cannot be over watered. Cheers I hope this helps you out in future grows man 🤤💨
Master kaos coco definitely can be over watered.
@@joejoe23169 no it can't, it's a difference between keeping Coco moist for oxygen, and just drowning your plant.
real news then don’t say it can’t cus it sure can.
coco can be overwatered.. especially if the plant is young.. if you were to feed a young plant everyday it would die. Understand that yes oxygen is in water and yes coco has a higher saturation rate then a live medium like a soil.. so it can take and needs more water then soil does.. its a neutral hydroponic medium. But those roots will drown in to much water real quick! Also as for run off this is a tricky topic reason being that.. basically half of the world will tell you, you need run off to flush out the salts and draw oxygen down onto the roots.. the other half of the world will tell you if you have run off your over watering and you are pushing the oxygen thats in the roots down and out of the pot and starving your roots of oxygen.. not to mention flushing out any Micro Life you may or may not have inoculated in the seedling phase prior to feeding so heavily.. so what is the right answer? Well.. there isn't one. The best you can hope for is to feed softly in the seedling phase and light on the nutrients.. becsuse if you feed a baby plant heavily and aim for run off that plant will wilt and be stunted in growth. Only once your root zone is majorly established will you now try for some minimal run off here and there just to keep it clean in there and at that point you will Wet/dry Vaccum the run off out of the res trays so as the plants aren't sitting in run off water drowning.. as for frequency id say feed with a tiny bit of run off once every couple days, This means in a 27L pot 90% full with coco, your giving it 4L of water with about 500ml of run off water out the bottom into the res tray and then sucked up into your wet dry Vacuum immediately after feeding every 2nd or 3rd day.
Sigh. If only I saw this earlier. No wonder my plants keep drying out.
@CuttingEdgeSolutions...
I did 2 thinqs wronq.. Over watered at seedlinq staqe & stunted them plus they yellowed due to lack of nutes from lockout.... THEN later when biqqer & healthy... i waited a bit n they dried n wilted a few times but now are watered correctly for months now n lookin healthy n qreen n stronq..
Same question worded a bit different. Sorry to bother. Im new to this. Please help...
Hi. Hope ur doin well. Keep up the qreat work.
Have a question & ur my qo to quy. I assumed i was an advanced qrower smh but fell victim to amateur problems (head hunq in shame)
I over watered some of my plants like a sucker & caused them to wilt, yellow & slow in qrowth rate. Some stopped qrowth for upto 4-5 days. My question is...
.... since i stunted my plants by overwaterinq them... does that mean that i lowered the quality of the buds they will ever produce? Like i mean... if they had never stunted to beqin with & thrived from start to finish, then they wud produce the hiqhest possible quality buds when it comes to Aromas, Flavors, Terpenes, Yield, Vigor, etc.... BUT.. since i stunted them, does that mean that they will NOW NEVER be able to produce the FULL 100% quality buds that they INTENDED to & rather NOW ONLY prod
produce like 70-80% MAX QUALITY compared to the FULL 100% MAX QUALITY that they would have achieved if they were never Over-watered/stunted to beqin with? Like did my STUNTING of them cause me to Lower the Bar of their Hiqhest Quality Bud Potential?
What im tryinq to say is... i know stuntinq can sometimes be TEMPORARY & once u brinq them back to Thrivinq Health.. they will Veqetate very well still but even tho they qet back to Thrivinq Veqetative qrowth, will their POST STUNT LIFE now produce
produce LOWER Quality bud vs if they NEVER stunted to beqin with? Or once they reqain Thrivinq Veqetative qrowth & health, will they STILL be able to achieve the SAME EXACT HIGH QUALITY BUDS that they would have achieved if they were never stunted to beqin with? Like picture 2 EXACT SAME clones... 1 qet stunted by over water... the other NEVER stunts... once the stunted one qets back to thrivinq & qets put to flower AFTER ITS THRIVING & VEGGING just like its Twin Clone... will the previously
Stunted clone STILL be able to produce the SAME EXACT HIGH QUALITY BUD as its TWIN CLONE SISTER?.. or due to the fact of it Stuntinq.... NOW IT WILL (FOREVER) produce LOWER QUALITY BUDS COMPARED TO ITS TWIN CLONE SISTER FROM THE SAME MOTHER?... very sorry to bother u but i only trust YOUR expertise Knowledqe because i KNOW that u are a VERY ADVANCED & KNOWLEDGEABLE GROWER. THANK U VERY MUCH FOR UR HARD WORK.
Please reply soon.
It's impossible to over water in Coco, you must be using soil, or you using a mix of Coco and soil. if so you have to treat any type of soil medium, different then just plan Coco. Coco never let it dry out, soil let it dry out even if Coco is in the soil.
@@realnews5697 trust me you can over water in coco 😩😭😭😭
@@BLAZINGINGPHOENIX they say that like it can hold only a certain amount of water if your container for the plant is correct you can’t overwater per say like if it’s a lil 2 inch container you not going to overwater if it’s a 1 gallon or solo cup you might cause it’s hella water to dry up if that makes sense
coco can be overwatered.. especially if the plant is young.. if you were to feed a young plant everyday it would die. Understand that yes oxygen is in water and yes coco has a higher saturation rate then a live medium like a soil.. so it can take and needs more water then soil does.. its a neutral hydroponic medium. But those roots will drown in to much water real quick! Also as for run off this is a tricky topic reason being that.. basically half of the world will tell you, you need run off to flush out the salts and draw oxygen down onto the roots.. the other half of the world will tell you if you have run off your over watering and you are pushing the oxygen thats in the roots down and out of the pot and starving your roots of oxygen.. not to mention flushing out any Micro Life you may or may not have inoculated in the seedling phase prior to feeding so heavily.. so what is the right answer? Well.. there isn't one. The best you can hope for is to feed softly in the seedling phase and light on the nutrients.. becsuse if you feed a baby plant heavily and aim for run off that plant will wilt and be stunted in growth. Only once your root zone is majorly established will you now try for some minimal run off here and there just to keep it clean in there and at that point you will Wet/dry Vaccum the run off out of the res trays so as the plants aren't sitting in run off water drowning.. as for frequency id say feed with a tiny bit of run off once every couple days, This means in a 27L pot 90% full with coco, your giving it 4L of water with about 500ml of run off water out the bottom into the res tray and then sucked up into your wet dry Vacuum immediately after feeding every 2nd or 3rd day.
Also it won't affect your end result as long as when you wait long enough to get your plants big and healthy just before you switch them over to flower. Not noticeably anyway.
If you mix coco with compost, can you let it dry out? I have succulents that need to dry out and everywhere seems to advise a coco mix. They seem to be growing nicely, it's been 3 months of letting them get bone dry for a few days then watering again in the coco coir mix, all seems fine?
Can you water coco from the bottom?
You can for like 3 feeds then top flush heavy to rinse them salts out the bottom
If it gets and stays too wet you get rot and mold
Not all coco is hydrophilic. I know from experience.
I'm a bit confused with this. So you said that coco peat is hydrophilic but why did it turn out to be dry? Also, coco peat is biodegradable, right? So even if coco peat will "eat" or absorb the other nutrients that the plant needs, after a few months they will decay and they will become a fertilizer to the plant too. Is this correct? I hope you respond lol... cause I am interested with this too.. lol
Peat moss is hydrophobic, coco fiber is hydrophilic. The medium continued to sheath water because the medium was severely dried out and the peat moss exacerbates that problem with the sheathing effect. To re-hydrate properly, it would take a slow and constant drench with Plant Amp to re-moisten and re-buffer with calcium. Yes Coco fiber is biodegradable and breaks down over time. Should only be used 3-4 cycles before retirement into raised beds. All elements will remain and as the composting process continues, anything water soluble will be available to your plants.
How many months will a coco fiber last? How about peat moss?
You shouldn't need to add any calcium to your Coco as long as you can get hold of pre buffered Coco..there's enough in it then for it not even try grabbing any calcium or magnesium for upto 14 weeks before it starts to get hungry for a bit of a top up.. that's why a lot of people need to add calcium and magnesium at certain stages in there plants life because a lot of so called big Coco coir company's aren't buffering correctly 🤔🧐... so buffered coir means 🌱💪🌳 just a little info for all you enthusiastic gardeners.. enjoy what you do people and never stop!! I applaud you all👏👏
Blue Staff Coco Coir thank you. Should coco coir be stored damp or let it dry out. I’m worried about potential mould. 🙏
@@cindyfinlayson4197 you can store it either way u want it just means the drier it is you'll have to water back up. And probably re buffer if it's been stored for longer than about 3 to 4 month. Only because your salts ( nutrients) break down as well what was in to start with. Not all but majority will. 👍
Do you have to water everyday
Many water every day but as long as the substrate doesn't get too dry you don'T have to. Most people i know water when they see that the top layer is starting to dry a little which is very visible due to the lighter color the coco has when dry.
I bet there are going to be a lot of new growers overwatering after watching this! Never had any problems from letting stuff dry out, but tons of problems from keeping too wet, (gnats, root disease, etc.). Just make sure you are using a wetting agent when you water, and you shouldn’t have problems, and don’t try for bone dry.
HeavyDutyTraining , you may be right, but I have! Nothing’s impossible lol, of course I didn’t know what I was doing at the time. I kept it saturated at all times and had fungus gnats followed by root rot. I found a little drying out worked better for me, like waiting for it to be 60% dry before fully watering again (I hand water only)
Coco still retains 23% oxygen when fully saturated.. can't over water it
You can overwater in coco if the plant is unhealthy or if you don't let the plant establish after transplant before watering frequently.
@HeavyDutyTraining bollocks.
Hi there. I have had problems with what I believe is overwatering. I have been watering 5 gallon pots 3 times a day with about a gallon each time and I would get the same amount of runoff as I put into the pot. About week 4/8 of flower my plants start developing calcium deficiencies and I wonder if it was due to problems at the roots for watering so much. My runoff is also very acidic coming out at 5.3 when I water at 6.2pH. I wonder if this is root disease creating acidic byproducts. Then the low pH causes lockout of Calcium? It happens every time at 4 weeks into flower. I suppose from now on I need to water less often and let the pots dry a bit between watering? It seems like youve had this trouble before too. I used to underwater and this caused nutrient buildup so I flipped dramatically to overwatering heavily. I feed at about 1.2-1.4EC with quite soft water and I use a calmag supplement.
Any tips for a fellow frustrated grower? Ive been having the same issue for years.
Just wondering, how often should I be feeding in a drain to waste system?
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Yep every sinqle time pappa
this stuff feels like a scam - ive had some soaking for over a day with nearly zero water absorption
Why soak it what the heck you just add to break the brick up and you can just add lots of water it holds it when you squeeze it but eventually with roots and everything else it’s dries out fast you don’t soak my man
Can I use Calcium Nitrate for my Calcium Boost?
..
thats what i do jacks 321 baby
Cat ion?
cat·i·on
noun: cation; plural noun: cations
A positively charged ion. Opposite of an Anion.
Coco can't be overwatered. (Sure if you had a hose continually running it may).I think it's best for beginners.
Proper size container for plant size is very important.
Proper size container for plant size is very important.
You can't treat Soil like Coco. A pot with soil is preloaded with nutrient and the roots reach out for new area with supply. Coco is like an empty sponge and needs food every day. Also don't need to do drybacks to build root systems in Coco.
Feed every watering at the PH recommended by your Nutrient manufacturer.
I recommend Canna Coco Nutrients. They discovered how to make Coco work.
Don't mess with the bricks, buy a bag of high quality Coco (Just Coco nothing added).
Build an auto watering system(less than $100). Use Nearpow timer and FloraFlex plates and circulators.
Also use a condensate pump (Harbor Freight $45) for runoff (or gravity feed if you have the ability).
Have that pump into a clear 1 Gal. container.
Then you can Master timer shot for proper runoff.
coco can be overwatered.. especially if the plant is young.. if you were to feed a young plant everyday it would die. Understand that yes oxygen is in water and yes coco has a higher saturation rate then a live medium like a soil.. so it can take and needs more water then soil does.. its a neutral hydroponic medium. But those roots will drown in to much water real quick! Also as for run off this is a tricky topic reason being that.. basically half of the world will tell you, you need run off to flush out the salts and draw oxygen down onto the roots.. the other half of the world will tell you if you have run off your over watering and you are pushing the oxygen thats in the roots down and out of the pot and starving your roots of oxygen.. not to mention flushing out any Micro Life you may or may not have inoculated in the seedling phase prior to feeding so heavily.. so what is the right answer? Well.. there isn't one. The best you can hope for is to feed softly in the seedling phase and light on the nutrients.. becsuse if you feed a baby plant heavily and aim for run off that plant will wilt and be stunted in growth. Only once your root zone is majorly established will you now try for some minimal run off here and there just to keep it clean in there and at that point you will Wet/dry Vaccum the run off out of the res trays so as the plants aren't sitting in run off water drowning.. as for frequency id say feed with a tiny bit of run off once every couple days, This means in a 27L pot 90% full with coco, your giving it 4L of water with about 500ml of run off water out the bottom into the res tray and then sucked up into your wet dry Vacuum immediately after feeding every 2nd or 3rd day.
P.s Canna is absolutely Crud!
Its dilution rates are way behind the industry leaders of today!
I can use 1ml per litre of H&G, APTUS, Emerald Harvest, Professor's Nutrients,
And Canna you'll be pushing past the 3ml per litre just to hold color in your leaves..
Not to mention Canna has done nothing in 15 years.. what have they done they brang out a Calmag Agent.. wow..
Their living off their Name from yesterday and ripping their customers off on price not to mention that they set their own prices and so the shops make nothing off of selling you Canna Nutrients..
Meh to the Canna recommendation.
@@fairdinkumpiereviews5357 wrong...I water Coco seedlings daily with no issues.
Feed water daily? In coco coir
Yes, definitely.
What about root rot
It depends on the size of the pot and the size of the plant and how much drainage and heat.
@@gillenzfluff8380 I planted some seedlings in coco how often do I water them I have seedlings in soils and I think I water ever week
@@miguelplascencia6093 What size pots, are you top or bottom watering.
First of all you need more water to saturate the pot lol . You cant expect to saturate coco which has very high CC - water capacity and its extremely easy to re-wet . Moreover Coco is used as wetting agent in different potting mixes . And how u lose the CEC do u know what CEC it is ? And what porosity , porosity and air porosity ( drainage ) is not same , all peat moss based potting mixes have wetting agent in them , so .... a lot confusing informations
Actually his video is for the most part very good. You clearly don't know much about growing in coco coir.