Sure but Goku's handles it better where it's like yeah Gohan clearly slacked off and we need to have a talk, but pressuring and guilting him isn't going to make it better.
@Dylan Ogega Dude that's exactly what he did, saying stuff like oh now it's your fault your friends are going to remain statues and stuff. Again yeah Gohan's slacking off is an issue but they had two combat ready sayians there to back him up so going that hard on him about it is just too harsh. Goku knew they could still beat dabara and then he'd just talk to Gohan later about how he needs to start training seriously again.
@@Cloud-dt6xb Vegeta definitely was putting pressuring gohan to make him feel bad and realize he would have easily beat him if he keep on training but goku would have handled the situation much better because it wasn’t like they couldn’t beat daubra
2 interesting things: Vegeta takes his responsibility as a prince extremely seriously and tries to bring out the best of other Saiyans. Goku always shuts up whenever Vegeta makes these kinds of talks
Both are needed though. Without the gardener you don't have food to feed the people, without the warriors you don't have protection. Sure you can teach the warriors how to garden, but you can also teach gardeners how to fight. Best to be both imo
@@sasuke082594 and it's pure garbage..Toriyama and toyotaro don't know what to do with the series,The arcs in Super are basically structure like bad transformer movies but with them hyping up Vegita for him to get robbed of victory.
Vegeta saying Gohan fought as a Toddler is technically correct as he saw Gohan aged 6 give Freiza hands and as a 11 year old defeat Cell and is now out of breath struggling against Dabura!!!!
@@smurfyx Its embarrassing that I don’t think Great Saiyaman Gohan could take 6 year old Namek saga Gohan… I know he’s more powerful but kid Gohan has heart and fearlessness!
“Every time you throw down the gauntlet, you represent the Saiyan race.” This goes to show how serious Vegeta is in his pride towards his own race. Especially a race where combat strength is priority. I can understand Vegeta’s disappointment when he watches Gohan fight. It’s like being the number one team in a sport worldwide where everyone on the team is extremely good and then you have one guy who just sucks but is still on your team for the world to see.
He seems proud about his race but killed Nappa, one of the 2 last pure blood Sayans and was about to kill Goku + never wished his planet or other Sayans back to Shenron
@@heroe1486 Vegeta never liked Nappa and Vegeta was angry when Goku turned down the offer to joined him. And Shenron don't have the power to resurrect a people that died ages ago.
This reminds me of the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child" all the older Z warriors did their part to raise Gohan, even Goku helped once or twice
Honestly Vegeta sounds more disappointing than angry considering that there aren’t that many seconds left anymore so he wants the ones that you remain to turn out to be great respected warriors. And as much as he would hate to admit it if it wasn’t for Goku he probably would’ve stopped trying to achieve power long ago
I think Vegeta has respect for Gohan so he gets angry when he's not living up to his full potential. That moment of Gohan not doing what needs to be done could've been great development but as usually with the buu saga it ends up amounting to nothing. Such a shame
@@jadude119 Gohan would have been so strong if he had trained even 20% of that 7 year time period, that by the time he unlocked Mystic form, he would have been too powerful for anyone until DBS rolled around.
You know if you think about it, if the Saiyan race were still alive (as in if they weren’t driven to extinction by Frieza) during the Saiyan Saga then I bet Gohan would’ve been considered an elite Saiyan just because of his potential alone especially since his battle power was really high for a kid
@@AwankO I always understood Gohan’s mystic form to tap into all the untapped potential he missed out on cultivating throughout all the years he didn’t train. So maybe his energy and physique adjusted through the mystic transformation, but his mentality sure didn’t. He made the same mistake he did against Cell by being too haughty.
Imagine if Gohan trained with Vegeta. That’d be so cool. It’d be good character development for both of them. Vegeta obviously wants Gohan to be the best version of himself. Just like his fans do.
Trunks trained with vegeta in the time chamber. That didnt pan out well because vegeta just ignored trunks. I'd say train with goku and get metal lesson from vegeta.
Thats Piccolo 😅 Gohan used to call him "oji-san" or "big green uncle". Gohan was never as close to Vegeta as he was to Piccolo, but they still grew to share a deep respect for each other. If Vegeta didn't respect or care for Gohan, he'd likely be indifferent about Gohan's power level, or maybe even happy about Gohan's power being lower than his.
It was obvious that Vegeta's anger and disappointment stemmed from his love and admiration for Gohan like a surrogate son or nephew. If he didn't care, he'd have been completely indifferent.
Also because Gohan was the greatest Saiyan warrior at that time. Vegeta is all about pride so the greatest Saiyan warrior becoming weaker was disappointing to him.
@@TDKiller415 off on this one. He doesn’t even particularly like gohan. Their relationship has never been anything resembling friendship. He’s just the greatest Saiyan who has become incredibly pathetic. Vegeta is angry at how such a great example of his peoples power is being squandered to where he can’t even defeat an easy villain.
Vegeta was so right about Gohan, he knew how strong he was and had the potential to be greater than any of them, but he wasted it and now his friends suffered. Remember when Vegeta wanted to be stronger than Goku but was shocked when he found out that someone was more powerful than Goku? that scene was so epic Vegeta said he doesnt want to fight anymore
IF GOHAN WAS STILL A WARRIOR I THINK VEGETA WOULD WANT TO FIGHT GOHAN INSTEAD ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT WOULD MEAN HE WOULD BE STRONGER THAN GOKU IDK ITS A THEORY
@@moneyworld7517 why would you write everything in caps. It adds no value, if anything it makes people take it less serious regardless of any good points you make.
He said he didn't want to fight anymore because everyone was putting their lives at risk rather than himself against cell. Not because Gohan was stronger than Goku during the cell saga. You're idiotic
Vegeta saw Gohan at level higher than he or Goku could have reached when he defeated Cell. He no doubt believed that the future of the Saiyan race could have been in good hands with Gohan
Gohan really could have taken over the Dragonball legacy by defeating Buu with his father and Vegeta and we could have had a new era of Gohan as the main or maybe even his kids. Now Gohan just reflects most of our boring adulthoods wasted potential.
But remember that Gohan never loved fighting. Piccolo really understood him when he said that. There is no love for the thrill of battle. Gohan really was thrown into it at such a young age, he longed for the peace of an uneventful life
I love the respect, Vegeta has always given Gohan. He has always held him to the highest standard, because he believed in his ability. No one has ever gotten as much praise from Vegeta as Gohan did.
Vegeta and Gohan is the definition of tough love. Believe it or not Vegeta always expects the best out of Gohan because he's seen it first hand how much potential Gohan has. If Goku didnt come back, Vegeta would make Gohan his next rival although he's already stronger than Gohan in the Buu Saga
That was intended so when Gohan gets to make a comeback it would be even more epic. Toriyama must have already planned his development into Ultimate Gohan beforehand. Not just physically but in character as well. Gohan in high school looked like a skinny nerd, while Ultimate Gohan looks like chad. Imagine him arriving to the prom like that all buffed up, Videl must have felt she hit the jackpot. Too bad all that got thrown out at the end, for Goku and Vegeta to come to save the day.
That's fucking funny because here he is 16yo, and he is very experienced if you think about it. Bro fought Nappa, Vegeta, Some randoms Frieza soldiers, Guldo, Recoome and Frieza 2nd Form and he was just 5 💀💀💀 What he was lacking against Dabura is clearly training and not experience
Vegeta’s right 100%. Gohan really let himself go. He was so far ahead of both Goku and Vegeta when he was just a kid that it took them 7 years to close the gap. Now he’s really struggling against Dabura, an opponent that Goku himself said was more or less equal to Cell, whom Gohan was almost effortlessly knocking around when he was 11. Now Vegeta is forced to sit and watch a fight that should be over before it even started. Add to that the fact he realized that Goku is still stronger and someone with even more potential than him has wasted it. Yeah, talk about frustrated lol.
Gohan was not effortlessly knocking Cell around as a preteen, least of all Perfect Cell. He survived because of teamwork, because Vegeta came in clutch, or are you forgetting that Cell toyed with everyone? Also, CHILD. LITERAL CHILD. Go look at the random 4th grader. CHILD. Against Perfect Cell. Gohan was in a rage and super saiyan out of sheer blind emotions, he was never winning, he was surviving and scraping by because the adults in his life all failed him. Literally, Gohan only ever fought Cell because Vegeta's ego let him catch 17, and Trunks was busy trying to stop that mess. Also, Vegeta cares about fighting. Gohan not so much, he feels trapped by his heritage and the people around him constantly choosing violence. Vegeta was never his prince, think back to his first memories and being attacked again and again and again by Vegeta's hand at earth and on Namek. So while Vegeta sees the half-breed Gohan as a member of his race (who again, Vegeta's the ONLY one in the group who knows anything about their racial culture), Gohan really has no attachment or allegiance to Vegeta beyond "oh hey, the guy who always lets the enemy get to his strongest so the rest of us have to clean up or we all die is yelling at me, and now he's lecturing me on not living up to the same Saiyan Pride that puts all of us in danger because of his crass stupidity". I honestly feel no shame here for Gohan. He lived his life and made his choices, which happened to be different from Vegeta and Goku. Big whoop. Acting like "letting himself go" when he's still able to fend of the vast majority of assailants is toxic. There was nothing wrong in pointing out that Krillin and Piccolo were left stuck because he wasn't up to snuff, what was wrong was berating him for not living the exact same path as the others. (Oh no, the abused and neglected child with complexes wants to stay away from fighting, but this is a fighting anime so lets all victim shame him... take a step back and listen to yourselves. I am very much aware this isn't real life, but you're treating it like it is so you might as well consider the social dilemmas and ethics as well as the war time strategems.)
Uncle getes more disappointed than angry. I mean gohan was 5-6 years old and was throwing hands with him in the saiyan saga then in the freiza saga so vegeta has seen his potential first hand and he’s developed a level of high respect for gohan even if he never admits it it’s blatant cause of how he reacts in this and I think that’s good development
"Power is for those who can be ruthless, not bleeding hearts who shrink from dealing the final blow. Survival of the fittest, plain and simple". ~Vegeta Well, in the perspective of the battlefield, Vegeta is truly wise.
Vegeta is literally around because the guy who has always been stronger than him didn't allow the finishing blow to be dealt to him. Most of Z's team is people Goku bested and did not "finish off." Also? Pretty much every villain in DBZ came to power because of him, and the fact that feeling big and bad was more important than "dealing the final blow." His son literally died in front of him by the enemy he toyed with until he was too much. Vegeta isn't wise. He's angsty and resentful, but proves, ultimately, that power without compassion does not make you a hero, nor successful.
@Barocrates Yeah, but Vegeta only got stronger through the years while Gohan got soft. Vegeta looks for new challenges (which is why he foolishly let Cell become perfect) but he rises to meet them. Moving on.
@@wilcee675 That's a really lame justification. The point is Vegeta literally did not practice his own advice, nor has his been successful using or not using his own advice. He's stronger and Gohan is weaker because of plot armor.
@@BigZach77 Vegeta's been more successful in Dragonball Super. Unlike Gohan, Vegeta trained with Whis. Gohan didn't even train after losing to base Frieza. That's not plot armor.
This to me is one of the greatest real shit moments. Gohan is indeed a pure hearted soul, beyond Goku and vegeta. This alone showed how it turned into ignorance. So unsure of his own power and that fighting to fight is all there is.. he didn’t learn a damn thing from what android 16 died for… He could protect everyone he cares for just by training and using the power that he Possesses inside.. as vegeta himself has said if gohan really wanted to he would be the strongest of them all. But it’s always wasted
Vegeta’s speech stems from someone who legitimately cares about Gohan, and is both sad and frustrated to see what he’s become. When in reality he could’ve been the strongest in that room.
And goku didn’t say shit at the end. Because vegeta was bang on. IMAGINE how badass gohan would have been if he did the year in time chamber with goku then vegeta?! Like the balance of positive reinforcement and ruthless savagery would have propelled him to a level unheard of
Better yet, he could've trained and used his academic knowledge to experiment on and enhance his training during those seven years. A thought that should've occurred to Gohan considering his past encounters with powerful foes both on earth and beyond.
You can tell Vegeta was very passionate about Gohan, which is why he was so hard on him. He knows Gohan has immense potential, so to see him become so weak after all these years really pinched a nerve. It's like watching your favorite athlete who dominates often start playing like a rookie.
I loved how vegeta gave it to him. He was being a leader of his race and throughout Z and even super vegeta always shows some level of respect or expectations for gohan. Thats a fact I've really enjoyed about him. Vegeta and gohan really needed more one on one to fortify that. Makes vegeta feel more like a prince and gohan more like an actual respected warrior of the race.
“Take a goood look at yourself…. You crumbled!” One of my favorite Vegeta tirades and he was actually right. Never understood the tanking of Gohan’s character development.
This is exactly what Gohan needed to hear, more or less. He assumed he still had the same strength as he did when he fought Cell but he spent a whole year training with his dad in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber(or Room of Spirit and Time). Gohan never grew a spine raised by his mother after Goku's death. Slacking off acting like he was a normal kid when he should've made time to train for any new threats to the Earth. He made the same mistakes when fighting Fat Buu and Super Buu. His overconfidence was his downfall.
These scenes make Vegeta’s smile when he senses Gohan’s power during his fight with Goku in super more wholesome, he’s always been the one to point out the fact that Gohan has the highest potential of any warrior they know, hopefully he can help Gohan test his new form, I would love to see Ultra Ego Vegeta fight Gohan Beast
Vegeta is right, even when Gohan was facing Cell, instead of finishing him, he decided to watch him suffer to the point where it costed Trunks and Goku’s lives.
Vegeta is only angry because he saw first hand Gohan's incredible potential against Cell. Watch when Cell returns as Super Perfect Cell and Gohan powers up as SSJ2 again. Vegeta's face shows shock and awe out of respect for Gohan's power at the time. That's why Vegeta is upset that Gohan's power dropped so much when his potential is limitless.
I think his fight against Cell is why he is so angry in this scene. Also Gohan should have known better since he himself toyed with Cell after turning SSJ2 and it cost Goku his life.
Different scenario vegeta wants cell to transform because cell is still not on his full potential vegeta wants to prove that he can kill him at his strongest meanwhile gohan has every aspect of defeating dabura he is definitely outclassed by gohan ssj2 there's no reason to keep the fight any longer but he still gets away because gohan keeps toying with him
@MADISON MARSH We all get that. But still, she should've let him have the chance either way, even if he didn't like fighting. How can you be stronger as or than anybody if she don't give her sons any advantage to train on their free time?
This is a misconception I always see lol Gohan never EVER liked fighting. He ALWAYS gets drunk off power. EG Cell & Buu. Every time Gohan becomes a “Fighter” it only works when he’s doing so to protect people not cause he “Likes” it.
@@Ultimodestructico My point isn't that vegeta isn't correct. Remember even in the world of dbz, planet busters still make up less than 1% of the population. So to the majority of the dbz population and to people like you and me, hearing that someone who could easily destroy a planet (and that is an understatement) is still funny to hear.
@@Potent1al Because I need to make myself clearer. It is funny to me because outside the z fighters the other billion of the population as well as people like you and me, would be gobsmacked if someone who can destroy planets is considered weak, that is all. As I said before, I know Vegeta is correct since he is relative to Gohan in power compared to mere humans and understands that Gohan is and should be capable of so much more. So in terms of my point being moot, it does not make sense since I am already aware my point is moot, I just found it amusing. Would be the equivalent of someone running at the speed of light and a mere human like me and you overhearing someone calling that person slow.
Vegeta: why not Gohan? Certainly you realize your son has the most latent ability of anyone we know Vegeta knows Gohan's potential better than anyone maybe even kakarot
Everyone is like "Vegeta is such a good prince" That's not it. Vegeta saw Gohan be the strongest out of all of them when he was a _child._ Say what you want about Vegeta, but he respects strength, and he's just so pissed at Gohan for not being as amazing as he can be. If you work for something your whole life right, and then you see a child who is better than you, they make you look like an amateur basically. Then ten years later they're worse than when they were a kid. You'd be just as pissed off because you could have used that potential, you'd use it properly, and they just fucking waste it.
Apparently Vegeta is speaking facts about Gohan. If Gohan kept training for 7 years he never would've struggled against his fight against Debura and made quick work of him.
Vegeta was right all along. More than trying to follow in his father's footsteps or anything like that....Gohan has power to protect. And because he slacked on his training his friends paid the price. It could happen again on a much worse scale. Enjoying training or wanting to be a fighter doesn't matter. He should train to PROTECT.
IMHO, Gohan didn't learn anything from this. He went right back to slacking off. Golden Frieza coming to earth should not have been an issue after they all learned about God level combatants and had something to strive for.
@@brittbey3429 So because there are dragon balls Gohan should give up his whole character arc of wanting to protect people? Not exactly good writing for the character.
@@brittbey3429 I don't disagree that hard limits should be put back on the Dragonballs. But that doesn't really excuse the bad character Gohan became by essentially turning away from his established character arc. Goku is the one who loves the fight over everything...Gohan is the natural born hero.
Kakarot not even TRYING to stand up for his son. I actually like it. Kinda shows how Kakarot and Vegeta's personalities have almost convened into the same spot throughout the entire Z series. Vegeta's learned to stand up for his comrades as well as himself, while Kakarot has accepted that aggression is necessary and some opponents just have to be stopped at all costs.
He's not trying to defend him because he completely agrees with Vegeta lol, Chichi did Gohan dirty. I get wanting an education for your kid but she has to realize Gohan is half-saiyan, an alien race bred for war, she stunted his combat growth.
This is so true. It is a shame the Goku growth couldn't have kept going. Heck, even though I'd rather just watch the fun film with the better animation, there's no objection to Vegeta straight up murdering Ginyu in Tagoma's body. And if they could've just given Vegeta the win, he humilated Frieza so badly after everything. Also different characters go from Gohan knocking out a ton of guys to others ki blasting or just beating them up, Piccolo takes out the other strongest henchmen. GT also understood these things, it really is a shame they let most of super otherwise regress to basically pre-Buu arc in way too many aspects. Not limited too Gohan training again, Goku taking things more seriously, and Vegeta going from using a wizard to gain strength to just accepting it from his wife and fusing again, after his disgust for the potara earings was shown in the buu arc. That 1hr thing with those earings was an atrocious retcon but least the Broly film gave us Gogeta and even though Vegeta is annoyed he also gets they got Broly just seemingly growing stronger by the second and mind you a more refined frieza with "gold power" is also hanging around. It's just a shame they couldn't keep to the actual really solid development these characters would get from opposites to just beyond different approaches to things, walks of life, etc, and acceptance when these guys originally were trying to kill each other, Vegeta still holding the grudge that became a rematch...which Goku screwed him over by hiding SSj3...I wish the show could at least use buu saga development standards especially when they can present new villains that aren't so massively overpowered like Buu got.
I think Vegeta is a tough love kind of person, he obviously wants Gohan to be the best warrior possible and it frustrates him to see Gohan denying himself his full potential.
Uncle Vegeta laying the verbal smackdown on Gohan's candy ass. Sad part is, he's right...also Vegeta despises weakness so it's not like he was going to keep his mouth shut lol.
Vegeta: You go too easy on your opponent, always opting for mercy when you should be vicious. That is no way to win! Coming from the guy who deliberately refused to finish off Cell and let him get his perfect form...
@ytmndman Except Vegeta wasn’t showing Cell mercy; he didn’t want to waste time fighting the Androids and Cell plus he wanted to see what Perfect Cell could do. Vegeta was battle crazy, Gohan was weak.
- You ain’t lying, I been said that for the longest 🤷♂️👍. But to a certain extent Gohan is use to it because how Chi-Chi and Piccolo are. Them three got the “SAME” attitude. I rather train with Goku because of his jovial behavior though.
No one ever wants to talk about the mad PTSD Gohan has from his childhood. It's always "He's so weak now ugh!" Well guess what y'all. There is a literal copy of Goku named Goten who is obviously the next Goku but yeah that won't happen. 😂
goten doesn't grow up to be like goku in gt we see what goten is like as an young adult and he doesn't train or anything, he just chills out and acts like a ladies man
I think this scene is supposed to be showing how Vegeta is consumed by desire for power and is frustrated by those who have it but don't use it--which makes him an easy target to bring out evil. On the other hand, he's saying what Gohan fans feel too. Hopefully the DB Super movie coming out this year will give him a little boost!
I love how Vegeta had respect for Gohan! Vegeta has been pushing himself every single day and he assumed that the mighty Gohan that defeated Cell should be able to handle his own quite well but unfortunately he has nerfed himself.
Vegeta got some balls talking down on Gohan like this about having mercy when he's only even still alive because Goku spared him 🧐 this whole scene legit feels like the writers forgot that
They didn't forget though. Vegeta's inner monologue addresses this exact moment at the end when Goku is fighting Buu. Vegeta realizes why Goku let him live.
Vegeta definitely has a point. Vegeta doesn’t forget shit from the past. He remembered when he fought Gohan when Goku was down and he turned to an ape an shit. He definitely held his own towards Vegeta. And he’s right he’s always wanting his opponents to beg for mercy when he should finish them. Example when Gohan had Cell in a corner Goku told him to take him out and he decides to whoop his ass so much til he cries for mercy. And look what happened…Goku had to sacrifice himself 🤦🏾♂️💯
To be fair Gohan wouldn't have had to fight cell if Vegeta didn't waste time and let cell absorb one more Android he has a point but at the end of the day he can't talk either
Even when the Saiyan population was 8 he still took his job as prince seriously
Not really.
@@NonStopKnocks yes really
Goku
Gohan
Goten
Vegeta
Trunks
Broly and his father
Tarble (Vegeta's brother)
I think these are all the saiyans that are alive at the buu's saga
@@baneous18 yup 8 Saiyans i counted
@@NonStopKnocks shut up
Funniest part was Goku just straight up agreeing with Vegeta. No excuses, no defense, just "yeah he got lazy and sucks now."
goku has always been straight up about things tho, he always speaks the truth of the situation
@@sadriddances4578 I'd rather him be real with me than just sugarcoat and lie to my face
Sure but Goku's handles it better where it's like yeah Gohan clearly slacked off and we need to have a talk, but pressuring and guilting him isn't going to make it better.
@Dylan Ogega Dude that's exactly what he did, saying stuff like oh now it's your fault your friends are going to remain statues and stuff. Again yeah Gohan's slacking off is an issue but they had two combat ready sayians there to back him up so going that hard on him about it is just too harsh. Goku knew they could still beat dabara and then he'd just talk to Gohan later about how he needs to start training seriously again.
@@Cloud-dt6xb Vegeta definitely was putting pressuring gohan to make him feel bad and realize he would have easily beat him if he keep on training but goku would have handled the situation much better because it wasn’t like they couldn’t beat daubra
2 interesting things:
Vegeta takes his responsibility as a prince extremely seriously and tries to bring out the best of other Saiyans.
Goku always shuts up whenever Vegeta makes these kinds of talks
If a saiyan comrade fights badly, he gets angry. Sometimes even to the point of killing them (like Nappa)
Its because Goku is thinking about dinner
These little nuances really make the show pop for me.
Goku didnt say shit cause he knew he was right
yup , as a prince ,
he always tries to bring out the best of other saiyans ,
just like what he did to nappa
Vegeta is the best example of the quote “It is better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war”.
Shut up
@@REVOMusicSounds What the hell is your damage?
@@DeathKnight5608 over 9k.
@@DeathKnight5608 He’s one of those flowers in the garden…..he’s offended
Both are needed though. Without the gardener you don't have food to feed the people, without the warriors you don't have protection.
Sure you can teach the warriors how to garden, but you can also teach gardeners how to fight.
Best to be both imo
"Two of your friends' lives were in the balance... and you crumbled."
What an evolution of character Vegeta has gone through.
You should read Super past the ToP, he’s like the main character now
@@sasuke082594 and it's pure garbage..Toriyama and toyotaro don't know what to do with the series,The arcs in Super are basically structure like bad transformer movies but with them hyping up Vegita for him to get robbed of victory.
@@hiddenexperiment605 i actually really like where things are going post ToP
@@hiddenexperiment605so it’s garbage because Vegeta doesn’t win? Y’all just don’t care for the story being told, only the fights
@@hiddenexperiment605mf really said the Granola arc was like a transformer movie💀🤡🗿
Vegeta saying Gohan fought as a Toddler is technically correct as he saw Gohan aged 6 give Freiza hands and as a 11 year old defeat Cell and is now out of breath struggling against Dabura!!!!
Dabura is far stronger than Frieza and as strong as Perfect Cell (so yeah teen Gohan would have wrecked him).
@@johangodojolo8652 the power gap between him and dabura aren't that big compare to that time gohan combo frieza
Actually I think Gohan was 5 years old when he faced Frieza if you think about, but your right though he was 11 when he defeated Perfect Cell
Hell when Gohan was just barely walking around he nearly killed Nappa and Vegeta himself
@@smurfyx Its embarrassing that I don’t think Great Saiyaman Gohan could take 6 year old Namek saga Gohan… I know he’s more powerful but kid Gohan has heart and fearlessness!
Vegeta is like an uncle giving tough love to his nephew cuz he knows he can do better.
I wish he would've walked up to Gohan and Knee him in the gut like he did on planet namek LOL.
@@_MrLee and to cabba years later lol. And when Future Trunks pushed the Goku button.
I mean...Piccolo basically abused him as a toddler until he learned, so I support Vegeta doing it now as a teenager lol he was such a letdown
@@_MrLee nah that wasn’t right at all. He could’ve done that when when he was with Daburs
Couldn’t have said better. I am Gohan and Goku is my dad
Even though he was harsh, Vegeta did have a point: Gohan should’ve killed Dabura when he had the chance.
See Vegeta means well
@Arache Bailey he does the same thing to Super Buu later
Harsh doesn't exist when Vegeta is around.
@@mechasandwich5634 I disagree
@@benjackson7872 Ah well...we got some opinions then. It's cool tho.
“Every time you throw down the gauntlet, you represent the Saiyan race.” This goes to show how serious Vegeta is in his pride towards his own race. Especially a race where combat strength is priority. I can understand Vegeta’s disappointment when he watches Gohan fight. It’s like being the number one team in a sport worldwide where everyone on the team is extremely good and then you have one guy who just sucks but is still on your team for the world to see.
He doesn’t care about the Saiyan race though, he just cares about his friends and family
@@jeffreyali1456 wrong, he cares about U6 Saiyan's
@@thaddeusgreen6490 his own Saiyan’s sure but the entire race itself and their pride and honor is really not what he cares about
He seems proud about his race but killed Nappa, one of the 2 last pure blood Sayans and was about to kill Goku + never wished his planet or other Sayans back to Shenron
@@heroe1486 Vegeta never liked Nappa and Vegeta was angry when Goku turned down the offer to joined him. And Shenron don't have the power to resurrect a people that died ages ago.
This reminds me of the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child" all the older Z warriors did their part to raise Gohan, even Goku helped once or twice
Even Goku 😂😂
😂 💀
Bro this comment killed me 🤣🪦
Bro 😂😂😂😂
And yet, he still ain’t fully matured.😂
Everyone is gohan's dad except Goku
Lol. Best comment I saw in db fandom
Just Shut Up That Meme Is Just Annoying Now You Bored Little Kids
@@jamesrich6815 then fuck off
What?? Most people are softies..
@@jamesrich6815 At this point its not a meme it's a fact. Lol.
Well vegeta is right, he watch gohan grew up only to see him turn weak
Honestly Vegeta sounds more disappointing than angry considering that there aren’t that many seconds left anymore so he wants the ones that you remain to turn out to be great respected warriors. And as much as he would hate to admit it if it wasn’t for Goku he probably would’ve stopped trying to achieve power long ago
sadly
He has power but refuses to use it, so silly.
@@cyclops8238 Seconds??????
@@Zulfar-bd9tc he meant sayains
I think Vegeta has respect for Gohan so he gets angry when he's not living up to his full potential. That moment of Gohan not doing what needs to be done could've been great development but as usually with the buu saga it ends up amounting to nothing. Such a shame
Toonimation But did it matter tho? And at the point of time before he had his mystic form unlocked Veggie was right
@@jadude119 Gohan would have been so strong if he had trained even 20% of that 7 year time period, that by the time he unlocked Mystic form, he would have been too powerful for anyone until DBS rolled around.
You know if you think about it, if the Saiyan race were still alive (as in if they weren’t driven to extinction by Frieza) during the Saiyan Saga then I bet Gohan would’ve been considered an elite Saiyan just because of his potential alone especially since his battle power was really high for a kid
Gohan was intended to take the lead, but unfortunately Goku-merch still sold quite well so they reconsidered
@@AwankO I always understood Gohan’s mystic form to tap into all the untapped potential he missed out on cultivating throughout all the years he didn’t train. So maybe his energy and physique adjusted through the mystic transformation, but his mentality sure didn’t. He made the same mistake he did against Cell by being too haughty.
Imagine if Gohan trained with Vegeta. That’d be so cool. It’d be good character development for both of them. Vegeta obviously wants Gohan to be the best version of himself. Just like his fans do.
Trunks trained with vegeta in the time chamber. That didnt pan out well because vegeta just ignored trunks.
I'd say train with goku and get metal lesson from vegeta.
He actually does in DBZ: Kakarot
@@techh8662 I think Vege was a different person then. Now he'd see the value in it
I think he does in the video game it was intresting to see
I wish the Buu Saga could be remade with that idea in mind lol
So instead of “Angry Vegeta” should we call him “Uncle Vegeta”.
Thats Piccolo 😅 Gohan used to call him "oji-san" or "big green uncle".
Gohan was never as close to Vegeta as he was to Piccolo, but they still grew to share a deep respect for each other. If Vegeta didn't respect or care for Gohan, he'd likely be indifferent about Gohan's power level, or maybe even happy about Gohan's power being lower than his.
@@TDKiller415 I agree!!☺️😭
It was obvious that Vegeta's anger and disappointment stemmed from his love and admiration for Gohan like a surrogate son or nephew. If he didn't care, he'd have been completely indifferent.
that is very true
Also because Gohan was the greatest Saiyan warrior at that time. Vegeta is all about pride so the greatest Saiyan warrior becoming weaker was disappointing to him.
Not exactly. Vegeta hasn’t been much of a father to Gohan at all. He’s disappointed in the squandering of gohans potential.
@@Small_child_punter I said surrogate son or nephew. Its obvious he cares a lot about Gohan, or he wouldn't be so angry at him. Its called tough love.
@@TDKiller415 off on this one. He doesn’t even particularly like gohan. Their relationship has never been anything resembling friendship. He’s just the greatest Saiyan who has become incredibly pathetic. Vegeta is angry at how such a great example of his peoples power is being squandered to where he can’t even defeat an easy villain.
Vegeta was so right about Gohan, he knew how strong he was and had the potential to be greater than any of them, but he wasted it and now his friends suffered. Remember when Vegeta wanted to be stronger than Goku but was shocked when he found out that someone was more powerful than Goku? that scene was so epic Vegeta said he doesnt want to fight anymore
IF GOHAN WAS STILL A WARRIOR I THINK VEGETA WOULD WANT TO FIGHT GOHAN INSTEAD ESPECIALLY SINCE THAT WOULD MEAN HE WOULD BE STRONGER THAN GOKU IDK ITS A THEORY
@@moneyworld7517 why would you write everything in caps. It adds no value, if anything it makes people take it less serious regardless of any good points you make.
@@prvtthd401 cuz I want to and idgaf
@@moneyworld7517 Just like most people wouldn't give a fuck and try reading this eyesore
He said he didn't want to fight anymore because everyone was putting their lives at risk rather than himself against cell. Not because Gohan was stronger than Goku during the cell saga. You're idiotic
Uncle Vegeta is right. Gohan should step it up.
Vegeta saw Gohan at level higher than he or Goku could have reached when he defeated Cell. He no doubt believed that the future of the Saiyan race could have been in good hands with Gohan
Exactly. Gohan could’ve been levels far beyond Goku and Vegeta. So disappointing how this went for Gohan 😩
It's funny, in 1 day he became past a ssj 3 level character when he became mystic. Then loses all his power in a few months when Frieza comes back. 😅
@@masterkc literally
Gohan really could have taken over the Dragonball legacy by defeating Buu with his father and Vegeta and we could have had a new era of Gohan as the main or maybe even his kids. Now Gohan just reflects most of our boring adulthoods wasted potential.
That is painfully accurate 🤣
@@marlzz92 the new movies seems like it will redeem him so I have some hope, fingers crossed
@@cloudstrife4324 lol what? By defeating 2 androids? Pretty sure both goku and vegeta can do that with super saiyan 2
@@nameismissing5656 I don't mind him not being as strong as Goku and Vegeta, I'm just glad he's getting some amount of focus. Hope the movie's good
But remember that Gohan never loved fighting. Piccolo really understood him when he said that. There is no love for the thrill of battle. Gohan really was thrown into it at such a young age, he longed for the peace of an uneventful life
If Vegeta was real in person, he should be a coach in any sports and discipline any team like he's doing Gohan 1:00-1:32
He would be a badass coach for Type A
The best coach ever.
Vegeta is the disappointed coach and Gohan is the star player who let himself go when he got to college.
@@kursor52 I feel I need a Vegeta in my life to help motivate me, even though he’s harsh, and hates soft and weak people like myself.
@@lukehart1500 me too bro :(
Vegeta basically said what we all thought
I love the respect, Vegeta has always given Gohan. He has always held him to the highest standard, because he believed in his ability. No one has ever gotten as much praise from Vegeta as Gohan did.
- I disagree with the most praise part but I hear you 👍.
Reading this I just picture vegeta knocking a 6 year old around after they arrived back to earth from namek lol. Yeah he really cared lol.
Vegeta and Gohan is the definition of tough love. Believe it or not Vegeta always expects the best out of Gohan because he's seen it first hand how much potential Gohan has. If Goku didnt come back, Vegeta would make Gohan his next rival although he's already stronger than Gohan in the Buu Saga
@@TheGodfather-bm3owGohan squared up with Vegeta and was spared. He def cares
"The boy has great power, but not the fighting experience."
-Vegeta
That was intended so when Gohan gets to make a comeback it would be even more epic. Toriyama must have already planned his development into Ultimate Gohan beforehand. Not just physically but in character as well. Gohan in high school looked like a skinny nerd, while Ultimate Gohan looks like chad. Imagine him arriving to the prom like that all buffed up, Videl must have felt she hit the jackpot.
Too bad all that got thrown out at the end, for Goku and Vegeta to come to save the day.
That's fucking funny because here he is 16yo, and he is very experienced if you think about it. Bro fought Nappa, Vegeta, Some randoms Frieza soldiers, Guldo, Recoome and Frieza 2nd Form and he was just 5 💀💀💀
What he was lacking against Dabura is clearly training and not experience
Jeez Vegeta respects the hell out of Gohans ability and is so disappointed in him 😂😂😂 this is great
the end was basically uncle vegeta
Vegeta represents the fans. If he had stayed sharp then majin buu would have been doomed and Dabura a joke.
Vegeta gave a word of advice till this day gohan still do the same shit 😂
Vegeta’s right 100%. Gohan really let himself go. He was so far ahead of both Goku and Vegeta when he was just a kid that it took them 7 years to close the gap. Now he’s really struggling against Dabura, an opponent that Goku himself said was more or less equal to Cell, whom Gohan was almost effortlessly knocking around when he was 11. Now Vegeta is forced to sit and watch a fight that should be over before it even started. Add to that the fact he realized that Goku is still stronger and someone with even more potential than him has wasted it. Yeah, talk about frustrated lol.
Gohan was 9yrs old when he fought Cell NOT 11yrs old. HORRIBLE english dubs.
@@great159 oh really?? Thanks, I never knew that. In the manga/Japanese dub he’s 9?
@@nickrobles6716 this guy is incorrect in the manga he was 9 but the anime he was 11
@@FonutYT yeah that’s what I thought but is that like a translation issue or something ??
Gohan was not effortlessly knocking Cell around as a preteen, least of all Perfect Cell. He survived because of teamwork, because Vegeta came in clutch, or are you forgetting that Cell toyed with everyone?
Also, CHILD. LITERAL CHILD. Go look at the random 4th grader. CHILD. Against Perfect Cell. Gohan was in a rage and super saiyan out of sheer blind emotions, he was never winning, he was surviving and scraping by because the adults in his life all failed him. Literally, Gohan only ever fought Cell because Vegeta's ego let him catch 17, and Trunks was busy trying to stop that mess.
Also, Vegeta cares about fighting. Gohan not so much, he feels trapped by his heritage and the people around him constantly choosing violence. Vegeta was never his prince, think back to his first memories and being attacked again and again and again by Vegeta's hand at earth and on Namek. So while Vegeta sees the half-breed Gohan as a member of his race (who again, Vegeta's the ONLY one in the group who knows anything about their racial culture), Gohan really has no attachment or allegiance to Vegeta beyond "oh hey, the guy who always lets the enemy get to his strongest so the rest of us have to clean up or we all die is yelling at me, and now he's lecturing me on not living up to the same Saiyan Pride that puts all of us in danger because of his crass stupidity".
I honestly feel no shame here for Gohan. He lived his life and made his choices, which happened to be different from Vegeta and Goku. Big whoop. Acting like "letting himself go" when he's still able to fend of the vast majority of assailants is toxic. There was nothing wrong in pointing out that Krillin and Piccolo were left stuck because he wasn't up to snuff, what was wrong was berating him for not living the exact same path as the others. (Oh no, the abused and neglected child with complexes wants to stay away from fighting, but this is a fighting anime so lets all victim shame him... take a step back and listen to yourselves. I am very much aware this isn't real life, but you're treating it like it is so you might as well consider the social dilemmas and ethics as well as the war time strategems.)
Uncle getes more disappointed than angry. I mean gohan was 5-6 years old and was throwing hands with him in the saiyan saga then in the freiza saga so vegeta has seen his potential first hand and he’s developed a level of high respect for gohan even if he never admits it it’s blatant cause of how he reacts in this and I think that’s good development
"Power is for those who can be ruthless, not bleeding hearts who shrink from dealing the final blow. Survival of the fittest, plain and simple". ~Vegeta
Well, in the perspective of the battlefield, Vegeta is truly wise.
Vegeta is literally around because the guy who has always been stronger than him didn't allow the finishing blow to be dealt to him.
Most of Z's team is people Goku bested and did not "finish off."
Also? Pretty much every villain in DBZ came to power because of him, and the fact that feeling big and bad was more important than "dealing the final blow." His son literally died in front of him by the enemy he toyed with until he was too much.
Vegeta isn't wise. He's angsty and resentful, but proves, ultimately, that power without compassion does not make you a hero, nor successful.
yeah vegeta is the guy who slaps you for you to improve
@Barocrates Yeah, but Vegeta only got stronger through the years while Gohan got soft. Vegeta looks for new challenges (which is why he foolishly let Cell become perfect) but he rises to meet them. Moving on.
@@wilcee675 That's a really lame justification. The point is Vegeta literally did not practice his own advice, nor has his been successful using or not using his own advice. He's stronger and Gohan is weaker because of plot armor.
@@BigZach77 Vegeta's been more successful in Dragonball Super. Unlike Gohan, Vegeta trained with Whis. Gohan didn't even train after losing to base Frieza. That's not plot armor.
This to me is one of the greatest real shit moments. Gohan is indeed a pure hearted soul, beyond Goku and vegeta. This alone showed how it turned into ignorance. So unsure of his own power and that fighting to fight is all there is.. he didn’t learn a damn thing from what android 16 died for… He could protect everyone he cares for just by training and using the power that he Possesses inside.. as vegeta himself has said if gohan really wanted to he would be the strongest of them all. But it’s always wasted
Vegeta’s speech stems from someone who legitimately cares about Gohan, and is both sad and frustrated to see what he’s become. When in reality he could’ve been the strongest in that room.
He did become the strongest again momentarily in this saga.
And goku didn’t say shit at the end. Because vegeta was bang on. IMAGINE how badass gohan would have been if he did the year in time chamber with goku then vegeta?! Like the balance of positive reinforcement and ruthless savagery would have propelled him to a level unheard of
You don't need to talk shit about Goku. Goku is a better trainer than anyone in Dragon Ball.
@@nerdtom4513 i agree and piccolo
@@nerdtom4513 That's not even remotely true.
@@mandalore1089 That's more true than what you think
@@nerdtom4513 nope its not true, theres a lot of ppl in DB that are better than Goku at teaching, Whis, Roshi, King Kai, etc.
If gohan trained those 7 years dude would've been stronger than ever basically mastered his moves
Better yet, he could've trained and used his academic knowledge to experiment on and enhance his training during those seven years. A thought that should've occurred to Gohan considering his past encounters with powerful foes both on earth and beyond.
@Digital Fates Exactly. And a fighter better than Goku
@Digital Fates exactly like his grandpa, bardock....
@@raghavlohia4116 He was a brilliant scientist
@@mat7083 no shut up
You can tell Vegeta was very passionate about Gohan, which is why he was so hard on him. He knows Gohan has immense potential, so to see him become so weak after all these years really pinched a nerve. It's like watching your favorite athlete who dominates often start playing like a rookie.
I loved how vegeta gave it to him. He was being a leader of his race and throughout Z and even super vegeta always shows some level of respect or expectations for gohan. Thats a fact I've really enjoyed about him. Vegeta and gohan really needed more one on one to fortify that. Makes vegeta feel more like a prince and gohan more like an actual respected warrior of the race.
“Take a goood look at yourself…. You crumbled!” One of my favorite Vegeta tirades and he was actually right. Never understood the tanking of Gohan’s character development.
Mystic Gohan was meant to turn that around. A confident, daring, even cocky type of character Gohan.
This is exactly what Gohan needed to hear, more or less. He assumed he still had the same strength as he did when he fought Cell but he spent a whole year training with his dad in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber(or Room of Spirit and Time). Gohan never grew a spine raised by his mother after Goku's death. Slacking off acting like he was a normal kid when he should've made time to train for any new threats to the Earth. He made the same mistakes when fighting Fat Buu and Super Buu. His overconfidence was his downfall.
Agree except for when fighting fat buu. That was a massive strength difference, no way gohan was winning
@@ThatOneGuyCR Maybe if he trained he could have.
@@w.o.jackson8432 If he trained yes ofc he wins, but overconfidence during the fight wasn't his problem.
@@ThatOneGuyCR Correct, it was overconfidence in the preceding 7 years that led to him slacking off.
What is this comment? Gohan had the right to live a normal life after all he’d done for the planet.
These scenes make Vegeta’s smile when he senses Gohan’s power during his fight with Goku in super more wholesome, he’s always been the one to point out the fact that Gohan has the highest potential of any warrior they know, hopefully he can help Gohan test his new form, I would love to see Ultra Ego Vegeta fight Gohan Beast
Goku literally has a halo on his head because Gohan couldn't finish the job
Vegeta here was pretty much every DB fans reaction to him in DBS 💀
He did have a point, was awful
Vegeta is right, even when Gohan was facing Cell, instead of finishing him, he decided to watch him suffer to the point where it costed Trunks and Goku’s lives.
Adult Gohan is useless compared to Future Trunks.
@MADISON MARSH future trunks would had done the right thing
Blame all that to Chichi despite his indesire to fight.
@@a.jthomas6132 chi chi didn't want his son to be killed, his husband already died 2 times
@@blablablabla1878 Right
ToP Gohan would wreck Future Trunks
Vegeta is only angry because he saw first hand Gohan's incredible potential against Cell. Watch when Cell returns as Super Perfect Cell and Gohan powers up as SSJ2 again. Vegeta's face shows shock and awe out of respect for Gohan's power at the time.
That's why Vegeta is upset that Gohan's power dropped so much when his potential is limitless.
Vegeta may be harsh but he take his saiyan pride seriously. He look at Gohan likenephew to him. Always wanting him to be at his best
- It ain’t a may, it is a “IS” harsh 😅. And that behind whooping he gave him way back in the day wasn’t no Uncle treatment to me 🤷♂️.
Wish I had someone who low-key cared for me the way Vegeta does for Gohan😣
I care for u...
Hit the gym. You're embarrassing yourself and the rest of us.
That good enough?
@@RTGPrince Thank you ! I'm in a better place now than when I was when I made the original comment 😃
@@whitworth5s248 😤😅. I am kinda fit actually
Even tho Vegeta was right, i wanted to see Gohan clapback
One year late 😅... well that would have been cool, but Vegetas words were hard hitting, Gohan couldn't come back from that savagery 🙈.
He brought up his best friend piccolo the nigga that been rocking wit him since 4 years old...he had got basically killed him and his uncle krillen
@@someweirdguy yeah u right
Gohan’s real desire is to be a cross dressing singer
@@whitedragoness23 he got close enough with Saiyaman.
I love how not only vegeta insults gohan but when he starts goku just carries on insulting gohan with vegeta lol
And Vegeta is gonna make sure his son doesn't turn out like that.
He doesn’t. In Super, he outright forbids Trunks from training.
@@ritster21 super is bs. sorry, but it really is. only old dbz fans understand this
@@ritster21 what is this "super" you speak of? Sounds like fanfic garbage
@@ritster21 that’s just in the anime, read the manga, shits getting spicy, I’ll leave it at that.
@@sasuke082594 Trunks does even less in the manga. EVERYONE forbids Trunks and Goten from fighting.
1:10 this shot always kills me lmaoo, he's such a shortstack
And this is why Future Gohan is a Badass!!.
Listen to uncle Vegeta😁💪.
I love how both Vegeta *AND* Goku are RELENTLESSLY flaming Gohan's fighting technique together against his fight with Dabura.
It's really interesting to see Vegeta mentor Gohan of all people
vegeta should've applied what he's preaching when he was fighting semi perfect cell.
I think his fight against Cell is why he is so angry in this scene. Also Gohan should have known better since he himself toyed with Cell after turning SSJ2 and it cost Goku his life.
Difference is Vegeta learned from that lol
@@ensanesane good point lol
Different scenario vegeta wants cell to transform because cell is still not on his full potential vegeta wants to prove that he can kill him at his strongest meanwhile gohan has every aspect of defeating dabura he is definitely outclassed by gohan ssj2 there's no reason to keep the fight any longer but he still gets away because gohan keeps toying with him
Vegeta didn't care about his life. His pride always mattered to him more.
0:14 get with it Gohan! 😂😂😂 Damn even Goku though he was slackin
I love how vegeta was disappointed in how gohan just shows how highly he thought of him
Vegeta is sure a great pep talker, and down to the point.
Also, Vegeta did have respect for Gohan. I can see his pride showing off here.
Everytime Vegeta gives a speech it makes me want to tear up and be like: "Bruh, you so right 😭"
Personally I blame Chi-Chi for making her son so weak regardless of his indesirable of fighting like his father. And Vegeta has the right to be angry.
It's all her fault for screwing up her son's future when he can be stronger than or as his father. What a shame
A.J Thomas not really gohan never liked fighting so it would make sense he stopped training
@MADISON MARSH We all get that. But still, she should've let him have the chance either way, even if he didn't like fighting. How can you be stronger as or than anybody if she don't give her sons any advantage to train on their free time?
@MADISON MARSH A good mother would have taught her son to be strong. Not put him on testosterone suppression.
This is a misconception I always see lol Gohan never EVER liked fighting. He ALWAYS gets drunk off power. EG Cell & Buu. Every time Gohan becomes a “Fighter” it only works when he’s doing so to protect people not cause he “Likes” it.
As right as Vegeta is, it's hilarious that Gohan could still wipe out a planet with ease at this stage
They could do that since the saiyan arc of Z, so that’s not a high bar
So? Anyone can do that. All you have to do is shoot a large blast right at the earth
@@Ultimodestructico My point isn't that vegeta isn't correct. Remember even in the world of dbz, planet busters still make up less than 1% of the population.
So to the majority of the dbz population and to people like you and me, hearing that someone who could easily destroy a planet (and that is an understatement) is still funny to hear.
@@reenans2860 Even Krillin is a planet buster immediately after the saiyan saga. Your point is moot.
@@Potent1al Because I need to make myself clearer. It is funny to me because outside the z fighters the other billion of the population as well as people like you and me, would be gobsmacked if someone who can destroy planets is considered weak, that is all.
As I said before, I know Vegeta is correct since he is relative to Gohan in power compared to mere humans and understands that Gohan is and should be capable of so much more.
So in terms of my point being moot, it does not make sense since I am already aware my point is moot, I just found it amusing.
Would be the equivalent of someone running at the speed of light and a mere human like me and you overhearing someone calling that person slow.
Vegeta: why not Gohan? Certainly you realize your son has the most latent ability of anyone we know
Vegeta knows Gohan's potential better than anyone maybe even kakarot
Everyone is like "Vegeta is such a good prince"
That's not it.
Vegeta saw Gohan be the strongest out of all of them when he was a _child._
Say what you want about Vegeta, but he respects strength, and he's just so pissed at Gohan for not being as amazing as he can be. If you work for something your whole life right, and then you see a child who is better than you, they make you look like an amateur basically. Then ten years later they're worse than when they were a kid. You'd be just as pissed off because you could have used that potential, you'd use it properly, and they just fucking waste it.
“Always opting for mercy when you should be viscous” my guy mercy is the only reason you’re alive
Vegeta saw Gohan rock Frieza’s shit as a 7 year old and Cell as an 12 year old, no wonder he’s so bitter about Gohan here
Apparently Vegeta is speaking facts about Gohan. If Gohan kept training for 7 years he never would've struggled against his fight against Debura and made quick work of him.
Even Goku was annoyed
Vegeta thinking is this the nigga i risk my life for saving on namek bc I thought he was our only chance against freiza
Vegeta was right all along. More than trying to follow in his father's footsteps or anything like that....Gohan has power to protect. And because he slacked on his training his friends paid the price. It could happen again on a much worse scale. Enjoying training or wanting to be a fighter doesn't matter. He should train to PROTECT.
IMHO, Gohan didn't learn anything from this. He went right back to slacking off. Golden Frieza coming to earth should not have been an issue after they all learned about God level combatants and had something to strive for.
They have the dragon balls
@@brittbey3429 So because there are dragon balls Gohan should give up his whole character arc of wanting to protect people? Not exactly good writing for the character.
@@joshjones9749 they shouldn’t spam wishing people back than or go back how u can only wish people back 3 times 🤷🏾♂️
@@brittbey3429 I don't disagree that hard limits should be put back on the Dragonballs. But that doesn't really excuse the bad character Gohan became by essentially turning away from his established character arc. Goku is the one who loves the fight over everything...Gohan is the natural born hero.
Vegeta being a father to Gohan...
Meanwhile Goku : 🗿🧍
“Bet you’ll be hitting the gym after this, huh?”
“IF he survives” 😂😂😂
Kakarot not even TRYING to stand up for his son. I actually like it. Kinda shows how Kakarot and Vegeta's personalities have almost convened into the same spot throughout the entire Z series. Vegeta's learned to stand up for his comrades as well as himself, while Kakarot has accepted that aggression is necessary and some opponents just have to be stopped at all costs.
He's not trying to defend him because he completely agrees with Vegeta lol, Chichi did Gohan dirty. I get wanting an education for your kid but she has to realize Gohan is half-saiyan, an alien race bred for war, she stunted his combat growth.
This is so true. It is a shame the Goku growth couldn't have kept going. Heck, even though I'd rather just watch the fun film with the better animation, there's no objection to Vegeta straight up murdering Ginyu in Tagoma's body. And if they could've just given Vegeta the win, he humilated Frieza so badly after everything. Also different characters go from Gohan knocking out a ton of guys to others ki blasting or just beating them up, Piccolo takes out the other strongest henchmen. GT also understood these things, it really is a shame they let most of super otherwise regress to basically pre-Buu arc in way too many aspects. Not limited too Gohan training again, Goku taking things more seriously, and Vegeta going from using a wizard to gain strength to just accepting it from his wife and fusing again, after his disgust for the potara earings was shown in the buu arc. That 1hr thing with those earings was an atrocious retcon but least the Broly film gave us Gogeta and even though Vegeta is annoyed he also gets they got Broly just seemingly growing stronger by the second and mind you a more refined frieza with "gold power" is also hanging around. It's just a shame they couldn't keep to the actual really solid development these characters would get from opposites to just beyond different approaches to things, walks of life, etc, and acceptance when these guys originally were trying to kill each other, Vegeta still holding the grudge that became a rematch...which Goku screwed him over by hiding SSj3...I wish the show could at least use buu saga development standards especially when they can present new villains that aren't so massively overpowered like Buu got.
THAT NIGGA NAME IS GOKU
@@bakedgoods7116 chi chi didn’t do that gohan WANTED to be a scholar himself. chile toriyama even said gohan likes studying more than fighting
Not long after this he did tell Vegeta to ease up a bit though. I think he just let Vegeta talk here cause he knew his points were valid.
LMAOO”THIS IS UTTERLY RIDICULOUS” 😂😂 that mane felt that from the core of his heart uncle vegeta tweaking
When your uncle chews you out for lacking and your dad just watches.
Vegeta gained respect for gohan and lost it right after
Vegeta would make a good football coach.
Vegeta spoke for all us in those clips
"From one prince to another, gohan."
"You suck"
Vegeta is saying what Goku is thinking
You know..... Im really starting to realize that Vegetas character development is why I love that series
His character arc is at the pinnacle of great planning and writing.
I think Vegeta is a tough love kind of person, he obviously wants Gohan to be the best warrior possible and it frustrates him to see Gohan denying himself his full potential.
0:58 it feel like vegeta being a coach for this moment for gohan
Uncle Vegeta laying the verbal smackdown on Gohan's candy ass. Sad part is, he's right...also Vegeta despises weakness so it's not like he was going to keep his mouth shut lol.
Even Goku didn't interrupt!
Vegeta.. The greatest uncle on earth 7
Vegeta: You go too easy on your opponent, always opting for mercy when you should be vicious. That is no way to win!
Coming from the guy who deliberately refused to finish off Cell and let him get his perfect form...
@ytmndman Except Vegeta wasn’t showing Cell mercy; he didn’t want to waste time fighting the Androids and Cell plus he wanted to see what Perfect Cell could do. Vegeta was battle crazy, Gohan was weak.
@@wilcee238 Same result though
his plan was to kill cell after he had his fun, but cell told about his perfect form and he wanted a challenge, but you see how that ended
Uncle Vegeta at his finest
Thought the title was “vegeta slapping gohan” it wasn’t until I watched the whole thing that I realised it said slagging 😂
Vegeta has high respect for Gohan, He knows Gohan has the potential to be the strongest saiyan
Uncle Vegeta ain’t playing no games
everyone gangsta and want to train with Vegeta.. but, honestly, how many of us would be able to handle those kind of speeches?
@@QuanBrown27 trully indeed my friend
- You ain’t lying, I been said that for the longest 🤷♂️👍. But to a certain extent Gohan is use to it because how Chi-Chi and Piccolo are. Them three got the “SAME” attitude. I rather train with Goku because of his jovial behavior though.
No one ever wants to talk about the mad PTSD Gohan has from his childhood. It's always "He's so weak now ugh!"
Well guess what y'all. There is a literal copy of Goku named Goten who is obviously the next Goku but yeah that won't happen. 😂
goten doesn't grow up to be like goku in gt we see what goten is like as an young adult and he doesn't train or anything, he just chills out and acts like a ladies man
@@charlottearanea7507 y’all Mf this man to be like Goku so bad y’all the Creator don’t care what y’all think
I think this scene is supposed to be showing how Vegeta is consumed by desire for power and is frustrated by those who have it but don't use it--which makes him an easy target to bring out evil. On the other hand, he's saying what Gohan fans feel too. Hopefully the DB Super movie coming out this year will give him a little boost!
this is why goku doesnt claim him
I love how Vegeta had respect for Gohan! Vegeta has been pushing himself every single day and he assumed that the mighty Gohan that defeated Cell should be able to handle his own quite well but unfortunately he has nerfed himself.
He went soft
Vegeta got some balls talking down on Gohan like this about having mercy when he's only even still alive because Goku spared him 🧐 this whole scene legit feels like the writers forgot that
Goku sparring vegeta actually hurt his pride more. As well as saving him from the ginyu force and beating frieza.
Seriously lol, the writers were straight up sleeping
They didn't forget though. Vegeta's inner monologue addresses this exact moment at the end when Goku is fighting Buu. Vegeta realizes why Goku let him live.
- I said the same thing 🙄👍!
@@rivalx288 - Vegeta still can’t be talking 🙄.
Vegeta was more disappointed than angry in Gohan
This is just a fraction of frustration we feel, knowing Gohan is the strongest character, never reaching even a 10th of his potential.
blame akira toriyama. this new movie better make up for it
Vegeta definitely has a point. Vegeta doesn’t forget shit from the past. He remembered when he fought Gohan when Goku was down and he turned to an ape an shit. He definitely held his own towards Vegeta. And he’s right he’s always wanting his opponents to beg for mercy when he should finish them. Example when Gohan had Cell in a corner Goku told him to take him out and he decides to whoop his ass so much til he cries for mercy. And look what happened…Goku had to sacrifice himself 🤦🏾♂️💯
To be fair Gohan wouldn't have had to fight cell if Vegeta didn't waste time and let cell absorb one more Android he has a point but at the end of the day he can't talk either
@@retronerds6884 point taken 🤔!
Man if vegeta was gohans father he would’ve been such a beast