Well that's either a joke or an actual accusation, and I'm not sure which Anyway, that's not how TV shows work. Season 2 was being written a sizeable amount of time ago, possibly before season one even premiered. So the reason the writing in this episode was seriously lacking (and to an extent the majority of other season 2 episodes) was.... A. It was covid times. Everything sucked. B. The writing was outsourced, likely because this was around the time that Hazbin was picked up, and Viv was primarily focusing on that. C. Adam Neylan wrote this episode. Same guy who wrote "Seeing Stars" and "Exes and Oohs"... Enough said.
Millie didn't even really need a ton of development, in my opinion. I admit she needed a more distinct personality, because she was one note and basically a background character, but not anything crazy. If she was going to get her own episode, it should've been back in S1. Whatever this is just.... isn't it
@cringeweebooo60 I feel like Adam should stop have so much influence over the writing. I don't really know how this works, but it seems that Adam is the "main writer" for the worst episodes of this season
As someone who also gets SEVERE fremdschämen, this episode was genuinely painful to watch. I find it reassuring to know that you had much the same experience.
@@hotpotato5587 you know that scene in that one family guy episode where Chris scratches out his eyes after seeing Brian without his fur? That was essentially me watching this.
Getting past everything the decision to show us the killer immediately instead of some investigation is killing me inside, also moxxie's mom died in a river WHICH IS HOW THE CLIENT DIED. This episode couldve been way better but i still like the humor for the most part
I mean the whole point of showing the killer immediately was to setup the joke about moxxie overcomplicating things lol, also what is the second point even supposed to mean? Like, genuinely
@@k-osmonaut8807dolphy here, i think u didnt even read my comment. The joke of moxxie overcomplicating things is stupid, if there was an investigation it'd involve the way the client died which is how his mother died. I hope you go to the opposite of heaven
@@rhuandefrancastrambek2391 nah he wasn't ruined just handled poorly. moxie especially after being forced to visit father has a lot of insecurities and everyone has a breaking point after things almost always going poorly for you, even with a lot support. 'ruined' is a pretty strong word
@@roofogato I mean I agree that he was ruined for this episode although if he's back to normal in the next then I don't think the overall character will be ruined, although if it becomes a trend for Moxxie to be an unlikeable man-child then I'd say they ruined his character. Personally I think it would've made more sense for Blizø to take Moxxie with him in search of his sister and have Millie run the investigation/hit with Loona. As we see in this very episode Blitzø never trusted Moxxie with the hit and only put him in charge to get him out of the room. Although this idea might still seem out of character for Blitzø as he would want to find his sister on his own and doesn't seem fully comfortable letting Loona go on missions, I still think it'd be an adequate reason to split up the M&M for an episode and for Millie (And Loona) can get more character growth outside of Blitzø and Moxxie.
Ever time Viv uploads a new episode, I eagerly await this guy to make these. Edit: this is a counter of all the times someone in the replies has used to word same: 49
it was a shame we only got about 2 mins of Barbie and Blitzo interacting, I'm glad we got to finally see her but it atill leaves everyone with more questions than answers :/
You don't know how happy I am not alone on this episode being bad. The moment I finished the episode I wondered how'd you explained your thoughts on it. And you filled all the boxes.
Thank you for talking about fremdschämen. I get severe second-hand embarrassment and can't watch films and stuff without skipping through at least 1 scene. I don't know about anyone else's experience, but I feel like season 2 has been much worse for second-hand embarrassment than last season, especially this episode. I honestly couldn't sit through a majority of the Moxxie segments.
Barbie Wire actually needed a crunch to have a legit disguise. She was wearing a bracelet that allows imps to look human. The wearer just depends on who has permission to have it from the higher-ups. An example is Vaggie whose spear is an angel weapon and is believed to be from Lucifer's weapons vault and she was only allowed to have it because she's Charlie's girlfriend. (don't @ me on this).
That would have been great!! we know that Barbie Wire and Verosika knew each other in rehab and we also know that Verosika knows Asmodus so it isn't that hard to imagine that Barbie would ask her friend for the bracelet and that Verosika would be able to convince Asmodus to give it to her.
@@BrainxjjuiceyThis The writers _need_ to start learning that you have to put information about the show in the show itself Whether it was hinted at earlier or only exists for the episode I really don’t care about anymore, just put it somewhere
@@dragonempress8367 I think Viv made a tweet about the character being 18 or 19 (still a little weird when you think about it although I guess Barbie is a demon so probably doesn't care)
It would've been so much cooler if this episode focused on the job considering that this is the first time in years that the I.M.P have actually been shown doing their job. It's also kinda weird that Millie seems to care more about what some random teens think of her instead of her boss and husband both of which think the world of her.
I think the next episode of Season 2 will be further diving into Blitzø’s backstory. Based on the latest Season 2 trailer, the remaining scenes we’ve yet to see are in an episode that includes Fizzarolli and Asmodeus. One of those scenes is an interaction between Blitzø and Fizzarolli. So, we may get some insight as to why the two of them had a falling out. On top of that, we still have that one scene of a young Blitzø and Fizzarolli going to what appears to be a Mammon concert which may end up being either the beginning of said episode or in a flashback.
Of course. Like- we all know that the season's gonna end with him having a mental breakdown after everyone abandoned him, yes? We need more backstory for that
Good points in the beginning. I forgot about a lot of that. Also based on the effects when Barbie Wire transformed I think she used the same crystal she used to get to earth.
Okay so, I have an idea on how to fix the episode. - cut the scene where Millie immediately figures out the killer - instead of the teens hating Moxxine for no reason, they are just weirded out a little (also make Moxxine socially awkward instead of a Wattpad protagonist) and they actually try to befriend her after all of them start simping over Millerd. - conflict of the story: Moxxie tries to find out more about the killer while Millie is enjoying herself. Moxxie can't get any information from the teens because they all just wanna talk about Millerd. This causes Moxxie to be frustrated and call Millie out for not focusing on the job. That's when the fight scene happens, which can also be made deeper by elaborating on Millie feeling important. -After the fight, they go their separate ways. That's when we cut to Barbie, who witnessed the fight. She now knows that someone is onto their business and tries to stop Moxxie. -Moxxie goes to the boathouse to look for clues, meanwhile Millie is performing the concert, sad that she can't find Moxxie but pushing through. - At the boathouse, Barbie attacks Moxxie from behind and intends to drown him so he wouldn't find about about the drug dealing. - Blitzø comes in just before that happens and then the boathouse scene happens pretty much like in the original episode, but with a hint or an exposition on why there's a rift between Barbie and Blitzø. - After the killer dies and Barbie leaves, Moxxie suddenly realizes he fucked up by leaving Millie alone in an important moment for her and rushes to the stage, only to find that the concert already ended. Mollie acts apathetic towards him, clearly hurt by this. She feels like he doesn't care as much about her as she does for him, which creates a rift between them which will require several episodes and a heart-to-heart to fix.
Seems like a better plot, also gives Millie a flaw instead of being this perfect girl, she enjoys/craves attention. But what astonishes me is how either the writers of this are getting paid despite churning out subpar scripts, or they’re getting screwed over by some bigger power.
I too feel fremdschämen when i see how people dont ever mention the obvious truth: Vivzie just had some whacky fantasies in her head but not enough writing skills to line them up correctly and make a story, although the amount of related and unrelated ideas her mind created is pretty impressive (she does have adhd which explains a lot) it's not sufficiently well handled as to do a show that you want people to take seriously. What ends up coming out of this is an incosistent clusterfuck of ideas disguised as a show that wants to be nonserious and serious at the same time but without the needed plot to make a serious cartoon (edit: i sound too harsh, now that ive watched the last episode with mammon im a crazy viv fangirl again)
I think Barbie being able to disguise herself is only because of the Asmodeus crystal (notice the crystaly effect that Barbie's human transformation has is the same one as the portal), bur they probably should have established that better. And as for why the Imps don't have this technology: I don't have an answer for that
its in a blink and youll miss it detail in The Circus episode. the book stolas opens when hes singing abt his one sided love for blitzo. it says in ruin language that only succubi get asmodean jewelry directly from asmo himself. and since barbie has a half succubus co worker she can just force him to hand his to her
Totally agree about being frustrated with most of the plot for this episode. And for me, my main sticking point was less "Moxxie's being crapped on again" (as I've sadly come to expect that in this show by now) and more just how poorly they executed the attempt at Millie's "character development". Millie supposedly "wanting to feel important" _especially_ rubbed me the wrong way, because she showed no indication of not feeling important at any point prior in the series. She always does everything perfectly, is always praised by everyone, and then she has this so-called development of "not feeling important". Yeah, it's probably a meta point about how she's treated as unimportant by the writers or the fans, but in-universe, that doesn't work. It could potentially work if Helluva was like The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy where they break the 4th wall all the time, but Helluva isn't that kind of show. Just like prior to this episode, Millie is still essentially just "Moxxie's badass wife", but now with a shoehorned attempt at a character trait that they tacked on there with no prior build-up unlike with Blitzo and Moxxie's self-esteem problems. And that's just bad writing.
A few things of note here: Millie's reaction to Moxxie's "Time of the month" joke was also really funny, especially with Vivian Nixon's perfect delivery. I was also shocked to learn that Counselor Jimmy was voiced by Monica Franco, the voice of Vaggie. I might have removed sins for these two things under different circumstances, but I wanted to keep the sin removals to a minimum because I wanted people to really understand how much I despised this episode. Also, I have no clue why everyone is insisting that Barbie used some sort of bracelet to disguise herself. I must have missed that detail because I have absolutely no clue what you guys are talking about. Edit: Okay fine, FINE. It was the diamond pattern of her transformation. Valid point. But I'm not apologizing for missing this detail in the actual video. Frankly, I would have blown a gasket over the fact that asmodeus crystals even existed at all if it wasn't for the fact that I live on Reddit and managed to see someone post the translation of a single screenshot that "established" what they were. There's nothing wrong with correcting me, but do NOT hold it against me for missing some details now and again.
I got to be honest my least favorite part of this episode was how Millie's character is almost... leeching off of Moxxie's. This is now the THIRD episode that tries to prove Moxxie isn't weak, and it never actually delivers on it, Millie just does everything for him again, even accidently killing Jimmy by a complete miracle of anti-moxx-ness, because we can't allow him to be good at anything. Just the previous two episodes he's been getting stronger, and yet it feels like they took a season one episode where he still sucks and just... dropped it between season two. If this episode was actually in season one, I wouldn't have hated it so much, but Stolas is in the hospital, Crimson is apparently swearing revenge on I.M.P., the D.H.O.R.K.S. are still out there, Striker is still out there, we could literally be focusing on anything else but another missed opportunity for Moxxie to do something for himself for once instead of getting help AGAIN.
I really like Helluva Boss, but, this episode.. I really didn't liked it. Especially for the same reason, Moxxine. Moxxie is one of my favourite character of the show but, just, no ! He's just not what Moxxine reflects of him, but I guess you explained it better in the vid' , with the german word also. What I wanted to talk about is Barbie's transformation. When she changed into a more human form there were crystal like shapes around her, and, as we saw earlier in the episode, those shapes are assimilated with Asmodean Crystals (which Blitzo use to travel to the human realm, also, he didn't used Stolas Book). If we saw Verosika transform in S1E3, we would have saw those shapes I think. As I understand it, Some creatures can transform into human like form (Stolas, and Hellhounds), and others (such as Succubi) needs to transform into humans and to go the human realm, so they use Asmodean Crystals, and every species can use them (Imp for example). But why would Hellhounds be able to transform while not having a way to travel to the human realm ? That's the Limit of my theory..
Duely noted but there are a few pressing matters I personally had. Still waiting for an answer on why moxxie didnt go for the knife to kill that teen when he was choking him and the knife was right above them Also, where was moxxie hiding his tail in his Disguise? Did he chop it off? Lastly, if there are rehab centers in sloth... isnt that more or less what Hazbin Hotel is trying to do?
0:58 Um achtually 🤓 The sinner that asked for the hit wasnt a kid, they where a counselor... Which honestly makes it worse imo how the hell did he even get hired for a camp IN A LAKE if he doesnt know how to swim
I wonder if Millie's outcry of "being important" is meant to pave the way for her getting more development, in a similar fashion to RoboFizz's "does anybody love you?" line. I hope so otherwise, yeah, this reasoning feels like it comes out of nowhere
on the "why don't they disguise themselves?" thing, it's implied that they can't do it naturally like hellhounds, and need tools to do it on their own. If you look at Barbie Wire's transformation it had a crystal-like effect, just like the portal that Blitzo forced another demon to open using an Asmodean Crystal. simply put, I.M.P either can't afford one or Blitzo is too cheap to buy one.
Honestly For the human disguises, the way I gathered it from Spring Broken, was that it’s something you had to buy, like a magical object that disguises you as a human that you had to buy to get said ability, and Blitzø is just too cheap to get it
And hell human disguises are probably only regulated to Incubi and Succubi since imps have no business being on Earth, then why do Hellhounds have human disguises? Just like Vortex from Spring Broken, bodyguards and protection. Barbie Wire and other imps don't have human disguises, she had to use the Asmodean Crystal to travel to earth and have a human disguise.
Just wanted to make sure, you did realize Barbie could only use a disguise because of her watch correct? I do agree from the point of, “why don’t the imps have that technology as well?” But still
You forgot three more sins : literally in the last episode(by the chronology,not by the release) - Moxxie fought off three big bulky Imps from the Wrath Ring on his own without using weapon.And was able to double-team The BEST Assasin form Wrath - Striker. And now he was beaten by...an ex-coke addicted ex-clown sister of Blitzo from Lust Ring...and he didn't even brought A GUN FOR AN ASSASINATION MISSION?!AFTER HE WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGHOUT AN ENTIRE SHOW AS A GUN-MAIN?! I would've put even more sins for that. (Sorry,just noticed the errors from T9)
7:29 I'm sorry, I genuinely can't believe someone would miss this, Barbie doesn't care if Blitzo was the one that actually killed Jimmy. Him being around her is clearly enough for her to be upset. To her, if Blitzo wasn't around, Jimmy would be alive (which also makes sense with the episode because either Barbie could take Moxxie in a fight and end it quicker or Moxxie kills Jimmy way faster and she never learns it was Blitzo's company) and she would still have her job. The nurse telling Blitzo not to mess up Barbie's life, not by interfering, but by simply finding her, tells me at least, that Barbie believes that bad things are bound to happen when Blitzo is just around, leading to her just not wanting to be around him ever (and also her blaming anything that goes wrong in her life on him if he happens to be nearby, maybe cause of something in the past but idk). That's not an error, that's telling us how Barbie feels about Blitzo😅
If you notice the similar design that the portals produced by the asmodeus crystal and the particle effect emitted by Barbie's transformation, it seems the crystal are what gave Barbie her disguise, and perhaps the succubus and succubie their disguises as well. But I do find it strange that hellhounds can do it naturally without the help of an outside force like crystals or a grimore just like the much more powerful demons like Stolas
I said it on Tumblr, and I'll say it here too; I love that we got Barbie’s introduction and some Millie focus……. But it also would’ve been nice if those two things had their own episode- As is, it feels like neither gets enough focus and cancel each other out as Millie and Barbie have no real connective tissue in the plot. Just refer to Harvest Moon in season 1; Moxxie-focused and introduced Striker who was directly tied to Moxxie’s insecurities, amplifying both in the process. Why couldn’t Unhappy Campers be like that? And yeah, I'm getting real tired of the "everyone hates Moxxie" thing too-
Bro, FACTS! I completely agree with basically everything you said, with the exception that I think the incest joke was hilarious. I did not enjoy this episode. I even thought that fight scene was super slow and uninteresting. And I hate Moxxine on a deep level, because I usually find characters with the valley girl voice hilarious! (Idk why, I just do) AND you spoke a lot clearer than usual in this video. 10/10 video for a 1/10 episode.
Fans wanna cream their pants over Moxxie's outfit in this episode (I mean they cream their pants every time Moxxie cross-dresses. Lol) even though I don't think he "slays" in it at all. I hope Richard never does that kind of girl voice ever again. He made him sound cringy as fuck.
Saaame. I had serious fremdschamen when it came to Moxie/Moxine. Like yeah, it would have been fine, overall, if the joke had stopped after moxie attempted to talk with the human girls - failed - and then switched it up or said screw it and went with millie's straightforward approach. But since they continued to force the moxine joke through the whole episode and suddenly made moxie super narsasistic, towards millie no less, the majority of the episode just felt like a drag aside from blitz's side plot Even though, personally, I did kind of like/didn't mind millie's songs though I can't exactly put my finger on why.
It was never shown, but what if the human disguise was because of those crystals? It's the same pattern. And blue clear triangles do not seem to be a red imps correct, er, magical aura thing. Also it was on her wrist going home.
Yup, it's an Asmodean crystal, which are typically given to succubi to travel to the human world with human disguises; it's implied that Stolas wants to give Blitz one, and is going to meet up with Asmodeus to try and get one :)
Honestly it’s not that Moxxie was an insecure jerk that was an issue for me (that has been shown a lot in the previous episodes), it was more taking out his insecurities ON HIS WIFE, which ticked me off. Because for all of HB, we’ve been constantly reminded how much the M&Ms are relationship goals, constantly sticking together and caring for each other through thick and thin. The one healthy relationship amongst all the toxic ones. But this outburst seems a bit out of left field, even for Moxxie.
Weird thing I noticed, when Millie said to "Keep playing to your strengths," we don't see that for the rest of the episode. At all. Right after that scene, we have the montage scene of the entire week, Moxie and Millie's fight, Moxie apologizing in front of the entire camp, the barbie fight, and the makeout scene after that. Where during that entire line of events does he try this again?
i usually agree with your opinions on the show, so this is actually really interesting. IMO, this was definitely one of the better ones from season 2 and i found myself laughing at some of the dumb bits. i think the moxxine thing was a little annoying but more bearable for me because i am actually a real teen girl and i hate the popular girl written by 50 yo men trope, and the fact they were shitting on it was fun. the exxageration of the different reactions for millard and moxxine was more gratifying and funny because of that. love your videos though, keep up the good work
Barbie Wire is able to have a human disguise because she had an Asmodean Crystal. I imagine that Hellhounds are lower than Imps despite having more power than them because of the population difference and some sort of circumstance. but everything else you said in this i wholeheartedly agree with edit: fremdschämen is the word? nice. genuinely the first time i ever experienced it, so that really says a LOT about that episode
@5:48 - 7:03 Hit the nail on the head regarding why imps can't disguise themselves as humans, but hell-hounds can. I'll further add that it shouldn't be the viewers' job to fill in the blanks or correct the contradictions left behind by the writers of the show, so saying things like "Maybe hell-hounds have some powers that the imps don't have, but imps are more powerful overall" or "Maybe part of this hierarchy is entirely social like all of the unfair hierarchies that are present in the real world" does nothing to clarify why something unfolds the way it does in an episode. Seriously, I could come up with an answer to why something is this way in the show that as equally inventive as these answers, but it would be conjecture, not evidence. As I've said before on your other videos, the writers of this show really need to nail down the concept of The Plausible Impossible - i.e. consistency within an fantastic story world, even if it's something as mundane as social hierarchies (e.g. Ozzie's and Queen Bee regarding social taboos of who can have a relationships with who).
Millie is worthless unless she’s building moxxie up. Even when the show tears moxxie down to give Millie time to shine, she is worthless until it’s time to build him up again.
One of my favorite details, and possibly the only thing I liked from this episode myself (even though I must admit I didn't notice it until I re-watched the end section a few times since it was frankly the only part of the episode worth watching) was the way Barbie had her family crest or whatever it was on her forehead crossed out to show that either she had been disowned when she went to rehab or had done it herself to say she wasn't a part of the same family as Blitz anymore... of course, there was no acknowledgement of any sort for this and its implications, consequences, or reason, but that seems to feel like most of this show so far... fun ideas that the fans are required to flesh out with their own headcanons as collectively agreed on by the fandom... or little ideas that almost seem like they were supposed to be so much more but never went anywhere... Like we get full continuity for Blitz's sister, but nothing for the possible similarities between the death of the client and Moxie's mother in a Moxie/Millie centered episode... Also as a side thing, since I didn't see this in the comments a lot... did anyone else think Blitz was sneaking into the hospital to visit Stolas instead of his sister's rehab?
Agreed, Moxxine was painful to watch, reminds me of everything wrong with 'Velma'. We're supposed to like the main cast but they made him trash to the point I'm siding with the mean girls yet I know this is someone I'm meant to like so it still feels bad that he gets sh*t on at the same time :/ I don't feel good about Millerd either because her getting famous is just another 🖕 to Moxxie. Why did they have to destroy him at the same time they raise her up? And not even in a way that has us cheering along. Might be onto something about AI. The only time I laughed was Moxxie getting attacked by the shark because it was a callback to a good running gag.
I think Mills and Mox being brother and sister (and their weird conflict in this episode) might be foreshadowing for the backstory between Barb and Blitz
They had things that were important for the characters, like handling a job, confronting a sister, and plot points like solving a mystery and they just... Wasted them from a writing perspective. Removed all stakes and pacing that would get the emotional resonance.
One thing i really hope for is a Millie centered episode that is NOT overshadowed by Moxxie, Viv said these Millie episodes are coming, really hoping episode was not it
I don't like the fact that for the whole episode we see Moxxie suffering and Millie having a really good time and then when Millie is mad at Moxxie I am supposed to feel bad for her after I just saw her be happy and Moxxie be really sad (yes Moxxie kind of deserved some of it but I think it was mainly because the writers wanted him to suffer and they just made him act stupid as an excuse). I am not saying that she was in the wrong here but still that just doesn't work. Also thank you for letting me know that the word fremdschämen exists because that is a feeling I have felt many times in my life but I didn't know what it's called and yes I also hated all the moments with Maxine.
I honestly loved this episode, mostly because now Moxxie and Millie feel like characters and not fluff fic protags. To me, even though it's not executed the best, this plotline is groundbreaking! I agree that the M&Ms made up way too quick, but I don't agree that this is out of character for either of them. Millie feeling unimportant would be an outlandish claim if she had the same background as everyone else, but she's from the Wrath ring where people as strong as her are dime a dozen. She herself was sidelined from big events because she fucked up and was too open with her bloodshed. So it makes sense with this background that she'd feel this way. And Moxxie, Moxxie's insecurities have been a plot point since Episode 5, only this time they're painted in a negative light, and the connotation shift is not done well so I agree that on first watch, I did think this was out of character. But, Moxxie is as plagued with insecurities as Blitzø and for the first time, he was trusted with something, and his WIFE who was already the powerhouse of the company, figured it out in two minutes! As for the negatives, I hated Moxxine and I hated the incest jokes, I strongly agree. I disagree with the song though. I feel like this is the most in character thing Moxxie could do this episode. He puts a wrong foot forward by doing a more theatre-based song, which is already not up the kids' alley, but he makes it worse by overcompensating and injecting all of his insecurities into the song and I personally think this one moment was genius. This is definitely not a perfect episode, but I definitely loved it.
Just a comment with some of my thoughts I think the reason why Moxxie failed so bad while Millie was extremely successful was because Moxxie tried to fit a character that didn't feel like himself. Millie was able to fit in the Millerd persona because it wasn't too out of character for her; it feels right at home for her to be proficient at sports and she doesn't have to fake anything to fit in. On the other hand, Moxxie was trying to be someone he was not for the whole episode and had to guess a lot of the information and blunder through all of the interactions he had, kind of like Elf when Buddy had to interact with humans for the first time because he grew up in the North Pole (basically cringe and embarrassing to witness such events that would otherwise be navigated effortlessly for an 'average' human) I felt like Moxxie should have had the option to bring more disguises to this week-long job, even though it could have and should have been finished on the first day. Considering the corkboard he set up before initiating the hit, even though it was based on little information, Moxxie portrayed himself as a methodical tactician who wanted to do the job with precision If more disguises were available, I think it could have improved the episode by using Moxxine as a method that failed, so Moxxie would try a different persona to continue pushing the investigation forward. It would have lowered the amount of fremdschämen and cringe that the audience had to endure, and possibly make the fight more meaningful because Moxxie would be getting frustrated that none of his methods were working while Millie was able to easily fit into her persona and be a popular figure. That and maybe it would have written out the incest jokes and possibly create a celebrity scandal that probably had a better chance at landing, if they had to keep the news flash at the end
@@cyan789 I haven't looked them up my self, but this is what I've heard. *SPOILERS* for those trying to avoid leaks. . . . . . . . . . . Word is is that the antagonist of episode 6 preys on the characters' insecurities. For Millie, he tries to convince her that she's a bad wife and that Moxxie deserves better. His words affect her so badly that she tries to commit suicide before the others manage to stop her.
@@Corrector1 Ah, thanks for telling me. . . . . . . . . . Honestly I think they could write it in a way that's effective and doesn't feel like Millie's character boils down to "Moxxie's wife" once more, if that rumor turns out to be true. Although this show has taught me not to place my hopes too high, so only time will tell.
Glad to know you hated this episode too. I just found it underwhelming, and was disappointed that so little was done with Barbie other than being a THIRD person that hates Blitzo for something he did, and like with FIzz, we have no f*cking idea what it is, and at this point, I feel it's either going to be so underwhelming that you wonder why Fizz and Barbie made such a stink about it, or it's going to be so bad that it ruins everything that they build Blitz up for. The fact that people keep insisting that this is a 'well-written' show and that people are media-illiterate when they say otherwise just infuriataes me. That and I am just getting very annoyed with the fandom.
I think it's unfair to say Moxie and Millie can't have a fight. Moxie has been shown to have many insecurities and this being his first official lead only for Millie to spot the correct guy right away plummeted his hope. One of the big issues with the series (no fault of Viv or Spindlehorse at all) is that the episodes take a while to release. I think the 'Moxime' character is quite literally a character that Moxie puts on to try and air out his trauma and desperate need for approval that is bursting out in petulance evident of his song only focusing him. You could say season 1 ep 6 shows Moxie's growth past his desperation, but all that came crashing down after he was forced to revisit the house where only his abusive father raised him. For Millie thinking she isn't important I'd believe that's more about her not thinking she stands out. She is native and was raised in Wrath, where being violent and being very good at killing with your own hands is the standard, and that's why enjoys the celebrity attention, as she's know being known for something else even if she's under an 'disguise'. This show seems to have a bad or poor habit or trying to foreshadow too much, instead of just outright telling us some very key things like why EXACTLY Moxie is lashing out Millie, instead of just having Moxie take a very hard turn especially since Moxie has been someone who has almost always blamed either himself in cases where it is undoubtedly someone's fault like Blitz making very convenient noise at the beginning of the Truth Seeker episode.
I feel like the "Imps should be able to disguise themselves too" is an unfair thing for you to point out...because they still can't. Asmodeus crystals are implied to not only open portals to the living realm AND disguise the user, if you look at the effects when Barbie opens the portal and transforms back into her normal imp form, the effects are very similar. So Barbie isn't the one with the power. The crystal on her bracelet/watch is what's letting her look human and enter the human world.
Why I think Barbie Wire can have a human disguise: She has an Asmodeus Crystal which are given to Succubi so that means her new job is working for them in some way, because why would she have to go to earth other than to be a succubi. (The drugs seem to be for her own addiction to me) So what I think is there is some way to get a promotion in the hierarchy and that’s why she can transform now.
If there is one thing I have noticed so far spindlehorse has a very bad time keeping the narrative straight. It still bugs the living hell out of me that we had that big blow up in season 1 and then by the second episode of season 2 it was like it never fucking happened. Now we got this one which really felt out of place, yeah millie never got her own episode but she was never looked down on in any of the others. They are always saying how great she is though cant decide if she is going to be absolutely bad ass or a damsel in distress. The whole millie upbringing by knocking down moxie just feels... so wrong.
This episode was painful to watch for me. Even though I'm a big fan of moxie as a character, whenever he was on screen it was painful. Maybe this I just a me thing, but I really hate the punching bag stereotype. And the thing is, if they keeped him as just that, that would have been fine, but they have him go over character arcs too and make us invested in his character? So do you want us to hate moxie or emphasize with him? You can't have your cake and eat it two you know.
One big thing that makes this episode wrong is Moxxie doing the exact opposite thing in front of human kids when he wasnt this around the far younger kids in EPISODE 1, he at this point is not a good character and that song he made just is so horrendous. Why couldnt Moxxie and Millie just disguise themselves as human adult employees?
Tbh it's not a bad idea for a M&M conflict. Moxxie feeling underestimated, wants to prove himself and Millie immeadetely takes his chance by spotting the subject right along. Yeah Moxxie acted stupid and he should've remembered what Blitzo said to him in S1E6. But like you said the writers forgot about this. Millie always seemed like the powerhouse that just has a good time. She never showed in any frame that she was unimportant. Blitzo praises her work. Millie's feelings could come from her big family and bein threated unfairly but again the fans have to speculate. We don't get anything shown just told which is bad story telling.
4:55 yes! That’s the first thing I thought of when she said that! The fact it’s come so late with no build up in any episode, like a background thing of her doing gestures ignored by others or something, makes it feel like build up to me for some reason
To me this episode is an encapsulation of everything wrong with the show as a whole. It’s inconsistent, doesn’t know if it’s an episodic comedy, emotional drama, or lore heavy series. I genuinely think this is the worst episode in the series.
Hate to be nitpicky- but the reason barbie wire has a disguise is because she has an asmodean crystal, that also lets her travel between the human world and hell. While i'm not quite sure how she got such an extremely rare object, i think it's likely that getting a human disguise like loona or stolas takes some amount of time, money, or effort, which the IMP gang might just be too lazy to do
i agree with most of these opinions. BUT there are a few things i wanna share my opinions about. first off, i wouldn't lable this as a bad episode, more like an okay episode, but that might just be because millie finally got some attention, even if it still turned into her having to support moxxie again. it's just annoying that even in an episode where she gets some spotlight, she's still pretty much the same. all we know is that she doesn't feel important/special to anybody (not even her husband apperantly) which i thing both have to do with her family. seeing as millie has many siblings who are all probably just as good at fighting and killing as she is, it would make sense why she likes the attentions the humans give her. and i do hope we get to see more of the reason behind her wanting the attention. now moxxie was....just a dick, but it wan't out of character. moxxie's whole thing is being insecure about himself and wanting to do stuff the right way. now he gets his first mission so everything has to go perfect, and when it doesn't he gets petty. he gets angry like he's a 5 year old and people aren't playing the game how he want's it to be played, and with all that anger he lashes out at millie. i agree with people who are saying that they solved it way to fast, they could've done the fight, then have moxxie go after the killer and realise his mistakes as he sees barbie telling blitzo to fuck off as she goes through the portal, and THEN he goes to the stage to apologize to millie. we didn't need the millerd being complimented and praised at the start of the concert. for blitzo-well i don't have much. i mean it was fun to see barbie, i liked her, i liked her voice. it's annoying that we still don't know why every relationship with him is fucked up and that's pretty much it for him and i have literally nothing to say about loona besides the fact that she once again says nothing. the reason for this has been shared on twitter but it's annoying that such a fan favourite character is basically being muted my the creator. once again these are my opinions, you can agree or disagree all you want but it won't change my mind on how i see this episode
Bro is getting quick with these new videos Edit: now that I've finished the video I completely agree, I hated this episode and I only really saw like half of it cuz I kept on just pressing the skip 10 seconds button, until barbie wire showed up
For Millie's song in this. I interpreted that at first she was trying to stay modest with the fame but as the song goes on it becomes obvious she's just humble bragging.
This is exactly how I feel That is the episode I hate with every fiber of my existence. I completely forgot about the importance of Barbie wire And the crystal just because of how unbearable it was listening to moxxie.
I don't feel all that much sympathy for Mox. He's not growing - I just see him bringing his wife down to the level he thinks he's at because he's insecure. It's always her supporting him and his ego. Never the other way around. Honestly it would have fit more if Moxxie were the star and Millie was ignored. Then the emotional climax would be resonant with a dynamic that's already there. Moxxie's ego almost ruins a case and discourages/ignores his wife, but they reconcile and he humbles himself enough to listen to her lead on the mystery and they have a final concert together after solving it. Also for a whole new family member of Blitz's to be introduced and established as someone he worries about and a drug addict... There should have been better pacing with all that potential yk.
they should’ve introduced Barb in The Circus, but no. we just get a female imp that seemed like a groomer because she flashed Jimmy (who seemed like he was around 15 or 16). Sure, Viv did state in a tweet that counselor Jimmy is 18 or 19, but i am not convinced.
Honestly the episode would be average-ish if it wasn't for Moxie who feels like a completely different character. First of all we already have plenty of moxie feels insecure and an adequate episodes we didn't need another one, impacted felt like the show was having moxie step his game up especially after the last episode. Then we get this, where he seemed to be dumber, reckless, and overall a giant baby. Which really sucks because Moxie usually is my favorite character and I would have loved to have seen him prove he could handle this on his own. This is the only episode in the human world this season and it was really disappointing.
The most common explanation I've seen for why Barbie Wire has a human disguise is that her transformation spell uses the same crystalline animation that her opening the portal does, therefore Asmodean crystals can do shapeshifting magic too. (Which would genuinely make sense given Asmodeus' powers, penchant for shapeshifting, and the general association succubi have with human disguises as well.) This would be a pretty good explanation, honestly, but it just rides on so many "implied", "probably", "it seems to work this way", and catching a small visual detail that for all we know doesn't mean anything... if just ONE of any of those elements was further clarified or reinforced, we'd have a great answer. We'd be left with the question of "why does Barbie have a crystal", but, damn. edit: goofed some of my wording lmao NEVER COMMENT BEFORE FINISHING THE VIDEO LADS
Okay but is NOBODY going to talk about the literal sex scene at the end in front of an audience full of minors? This is legit the only thing that I found actually messed up, even for the show's standards. If it was in front of a normal audience, one filled with actual adults, it would be just a "haha incest joke moment". But no, they pulled that in front of a crowd filled with preteens. Actual children. Who animated this? Who actually approved this?? Who thought that it would be a good idea to do such a thing in the first place? And don't start with the "it's an adult show". No, I am not saying that. Even though there's also minors that are watching the show, the show itself informs you that this is an adult animation. The issue here is that the production decided to animate Millie and Moxxie have a +18 time in front of children that thought that they two of them were siblings. Again... Who thought that this would be a good idea??
Yeah, you guys have a point. In hindsight, I could have just called it "secondhand embarrassment."
I just shorten it to ‘cringe’ personally
I feel like this episode was written in 30 minutes after hearing people complain that Millie hasn’t gotten any development
Well that's either a joke or an actual accusation, and I'm not sure which
Anyway, that's not how TV shows work. Season 2 was being written a sizeable amount of time ago, possibly before season one even premiered. So the reason the writing in this episode was seriously lacking (and to an extent the majority of other season 2 episodes) was....
A. It was covid times. Everything sucked.
B. The writing was outsourced, likely because this was around the time that Hazbin was picked up, and Viv was primarily focusing on that.
C. Adam Neylan wrote this episode. Same guy who wrote "Seeing Stars" and "Exes and Oohs"... Enough said.
Millie didn't even really need a ton of development, in my opinion. I admit she needed a more distinct personality, because she was one note and basically a background character, but not anything crazy. If she was going to get her own episode, it should've been back in S1. Whatever this is just.... isn't it
i feel it was done out of spite
@@beautifulmanstan8840Those are all my most disliked episodes seeing stars is more decent than these though
@cringeweebooo60 I feel like Adam should stop have so much influence over the writing. I don't really know how this works, but it seems that Adam is the "main writer" for the worst episodes of this season
As someone who also gets SEVERE fremdschämen, this episode was genuinely painful to watch. I find it reassuring to know that you had much the same experience.
This episode nearly sent me to the hospital.
I have NEVER cringed this hard when watching an episode.
my ass needed to skip half the episode to not die
@@hotpotato5587 you know that scene in that one family guy episode where Chris scratches out his eyes after seeing Brian without his fur? That was essentially me watching this.
What is fremdschämen? Sorry can you explain?
Getting past everything the decision to show us the killer immediately instead of some investigation is killing me inside, also moxxie's mom died in a river WHICH IS HOW THE CLIENT DIED. This episode couldve been way better but i still like the humor for the most part
I mean the whole point of showing the killer immediately was to setup the joke about moxxie overcomplicating things lol, also what is the second point even supposed to mean? Like, genuinely
Didn’t he say that Moxxie’s mom wasn’t the one that died in the river?
@@arushah6421 moxxie's mom did die in the river it just wasn't the one moxxie pushed in the river
@@thevonshallow ok thank you I was very confused
@@k-osmonaut8807dolphy here, i think u didnt even read my comment. The joke of moxxie overcomplicating things is stupid, if there was an investigation it'd involve the way the client died which is how his mother died. I hope you go to the opposite of heaven
Moxxie in this episode was The Most Unpleasant wet trashbag I've ever seen animated. Bravo, honestly
yeah, why was moxxie ruined in this episode
Yea it honestly got to the point where it felt kind of out of character
@@rhuandefrancastrambek2391 nah he wasn't ruined just handled poorly. moxie especially after being forced to visit father has a lot of insecurities and everyone has a breaking point after things almost always going poorly for you, even with a lot support. 'ruined' is a pretty strong word
@@TendoMendo nah, he was ruined, at least for this episode. never have i wanted to a punch a fictional character so much
@@roofogato I mean I agree that he was ruined for this episode although if he's back to normal in the next then I don't think the overall character will be ruined, although if it becomes a trend for Moxxie to be an unlikeable man-child then I'd say they ruined his character. Personally I think it would've made more sense for Blizø to take Moxxie with him in search of his sister and have Millie run the investigation/hit with Loona. As we see in this very episode Blitzø never trusted Moxxie with the hit and only put him in charge to get him out of the room. Although this idea might still seem out of character for Blitzø as he would want to find his sister on his own and doesn't seem fully comfortable letting Loona go on missions, I still think it'd be an adequate reason to split up the M&M for an episode and for Millie (And Loona) can get more character growth outside of Blitzø and Moxxie.
Ever time Viv uploads a new episode, I eagerly await this guy to make these.
Edit: this is a counter of all the times someone in the replies has used to word same: 49
Same!
Same! I enjoy listening to others discuss the show
same.
It’s gone to the point I get the most exited waiting for his videos
same
it was a shame we only got about 2 mins of Barbie and Blitzo interacting, I'm glad we got to finally see her but it atill leaves everyone with more questions than answers :/
You don't know how happy I am not alone on this episode being bad. The moment I finished the episode I wondered how'd you explained your thoughts on it. And you filled all the boxes.
I thought the same thing u did
Thank you for talking about fremdschämen. I get severe second-hand embarrassment and can't watch films and stuff without skipping through at least 1 scene. I don't know about anyone else's experience, but I feel like season 2 has been much worse for second-hand embarrassment than last season, especially this episode. I honestly couldn't sit through a majority of the Moxxie segments.
I bet you died at the circus
Barbie Wire actually needed a crunch to have a legit disguise. She was wearing a bracelet that allows imps to look human. The wearer just depends on who has permission to have it from the higher-ups. An example is Vaggie whose spear is an angel weapon and is believed to be from Lucifer's weapons vault and she was only allowed to have it because she's Charlie's girlfriend. (don't @ me on this).
That would have been great!! we know that Barbie Wire and Verosika knew each other in rehab and we also know that Verosika knows Asmodus so it isn't that hard to imagine that Barbie would ask her friend for the bracelet and that Verosika would be able to convince Asmodus to give it to her.
It would have been great if I knew this information beforehand or anyting hinted to this information
@@BrainxjjuiceyThis
The writers _need_ to start learning that you have to put information about the show in the show itself
Whether it was hinted at earlier or only exists for the episode I really don’t care about anymore, just put it somewhere
@@Brainxjjuicey Also the explanation that I gave could also explain where she go the Asmodus crystal
They never showed or explain that
To my knowledge this is literally something the fans made up
Okay, you can stop commenting about how Barbie used the Asmodeus crystal to transform. I get it now. Please stop.
I didn't notice that either LOL this explains it though
bangers and mash
What about how barb is a groomer?
@@dragonempress8367 I think Viv made a tweet about the character being 18 or 19 (still a little weird when you think about it although I guess Barbie is a demon so probably doesn't care)
@@dragonempress8367 is that... bad? She's a demon and she's tryna hussle drugs
I have absolutely no idea how people think is a Millie episode, it’s clearly a Moxxie torture porn episode that has Millie-based spectacles.
It would've been so much cooler if this episode focused on the job considering that this is the first time in years that the I.M.P have actually been shown doing their job. It's also kinda weird that Millie seems to care more about what some random teens think of her instead of her boss and husband both of which think the world of her.
My interest in the episode lowered exponentially from then on😔
I think the next episode of Season 2 will be further diving into Blitzø’s backstory. Based on the latest Season 2 trailer, the remaining scenes we’ve yet to see are in an episode that includes Fizzarolli and Asmodeus. One of those scenes is an interaction between Blitzø and Fizzarolli. So, we may get some insight as to why the two of them had a falling out. On top of that, we still have that one scene of a young Blitzø and Fizzarolli going to what appears to be a Mammon concert which may end up being either the beginning of said episode or in a flashback.
I do hope that they give us the FULL backstory unlike what they did in this episode.
Of course. Like- we all know that the season's gonna end with him having a mental breakdown after everyone abandoned him, yes? We need more backstory for that
I hope we do!! I need more of their backstory 😭
Good points in the beginning. I forgot about a lot of that.
Also based on the effects when Barbie Wire transformed I think she used the same crystal she used to get to earth.
Yeah, that's probably also how succubi and incubi disguise themselves too.
Okay so, I have an idea on how to fix the episode.
- cut the scene where Millie immediately figures out the killer
- instead of the teens hating Moxxine for no reason, they are just weirded out a little (also make Moxxine socially awkward instead of a Wattpad protagonist) and they actually try to befriend her after all of them start simping over Millerd.
- conflict of the story: Moxxie tries to find out more about the killer while Millie is enjoying herself. Moxxie can't get any information from the teens because they all just wanna talk about Millerd. This causes Moxxie to be frustrated and call Millie out for not focusing on the job. That's when the fight scene happens, which can also be made deeper by elaborating on Millie feeling important.
-After the fight, they go their separate ways. That's when we cut to Barbie, who witnessed the fight. She now knows that someone is onto their business and tries to stop Moxxie.
-Moxxie goes to the boathouse to look for clues, meanwhile Millie is performing the concert, sad that she can't find Moxxie but pushing through.
- At the boathouse, Barbie attacks Moxxie from behind and intends to drown him so he wouldn't find about about the drug dealing.
- Blitzø comes in just before that happens and then the boathouse scene happens pretty much like in the original episode, but with a hint or an exposition on why there's a rift between Barbie and Blitzø.
- After the killer dies and Barbie leaves, Moxxie suddenly realizes he fucked up by leaving Millie alone in an important moment for her and rushes to the stage, only to find that the concert already ended. Mollie acts apathetic towards him, clearly hurt by this. She feels like he doesn't care as much about her as she does for him, which creates a rift between them which will require several episodes and a heart-to-heart to fix.
OH YES! this way better!
@@Twinklenighterstarshine Thank you! Honestly I didn't think anyone would read through that wall of text😅
Seems like a better plot, also gives Millie a flaw instead of being this perfect girl, she enjoys/craves attention. But what astonishes me is how either the writers of this are getting paid despite churning out subpar scripts, or they’re getting screwed over by some bigger power.
I too feel fremdschämen when i see how people dont ever mention the obvious truth: Vivzie just had some whacky fantasies in her head but not enough writing skills to line them up correctly and make a story, although the amount of related and unrelated ideas her mind created is pretty impressive (she does have adhd which explains a lot) it's not sufficiently well handled as to do a show that you want people to take seriously. What ends up coming out of this is an incosistent clusterfuck of ideas disguised as a show that wants to be nonserious and serious at the same time but without the needed plot to make a serious cartoon
(edit: i sound too harsh, now that ive watched the last episode with mammon im a crazy viv fangirl again)
Viv has ADHD? Cool
@@sonicfanboy3375 yeh adhd is epic
Omg viv has adhd! 😁
I think Barbie being able to disguise herself is only because of the Asmodeus crystal (notice the crystaly effect that Barbie's human transformation has is the same one as the portal), bur they probably should have established that better. And as for why the Imps don't have this technology: I don't have an answer for that
It's probably because Imps have no business being on Earth
its in a blink and youll miss it detail in The Circus episode. the book stolas opens when hes singing abt his one sided love for blitzo. it says in ruin language that only succubi get asmodean jewelry directly from asmo himself. and since barbie has a half succubus co worker she can just force him to hand his to her
Totally agree about being frustrated with most of the plot for this episode. And for me, my main sticking point was less "Moxxie's being crapped on again" (as I've sadly come to expect that in this show by now) and more just how poorly they executed the attempt at Millie's "character development".
Millie supposedly "wanting to feel important" _especially_ rubbed me the wrong way, because she showed no indication of not feeling important at any point prior in the series. She always does everything perfectly, is always praised by everyone, and then she has this so-called development of "not feeling important". Yeah, it's probably a meta point about how she's treated as unimportant by the writers or the fans, but in-universe, that doesn't work. It could potentially work if Helluva was like The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy where they break the 4th wall all the time, but Helluva isn't that kind of show.
Just like prior to this episode, Millie is still essentially just "Moxxie's badass wife", but now with a shoehorned attempt at a character trait that they tacked on there with no prior build-up unlike with Blitzo and Moxxie's self-esteem problems. And that's just bad writing.
Correct, indeed.
A few things of note here:
Millie's reaction to Moxxie's "Time of the month" joke was also really funny, especially with Vivian Nixon's perfect delivery. I was also shocked to learn that Counselor Jimmy was voiced by Monica Franco, the voice of Vaggie. I might have removed sins for these two things under different circumstances, but I wanted to keep the sin removals to a minimum because I wanted people to really understand how much I despised this episode.
Also, I have no clue why everyone is insisting that Barbie used some sort of bracelet to disguise herself. I must have missed that detail because I have absolutely no clue what you guys are talking about.
Edit: Okay fine, FINE. It was the diamond pattern of her transformation. Valid point. But I'm not apologizing for missing this detail in the actual video. Frankly, I would have blown a gasket over the fact that asmodeus crystals even existed at all if it wasn't for the fact that I live on Reddit and managed to see someone post the translation of a single screenshot that "established" what they were.
There's nothing wrong with correcting me, but do NOT hold it against me for missing some details now and again.
I got to be honest my least favorite part of this episode was how Millie's character is almost... leeching off of Moxxie's. This is now the THIRD episode that tries to prove Moxxie isn't weak, and it never actually delivers on it, Millie just does everything for him again, even accidently killing Jimmy by a complete miracle of anti-moxx-ness, because we can't allow him to be good at anything. Just the previous two episodes he's been getting stronger, and yet it feels like they took a season one episode where he still sucks and just... dropped it between season two. If this episode was actually in season one, I wouldn't have hated it so much, but Stolas is in the hospital, Crimson is apparently swearing revenge on I.M.P., the D.H.O.R.K.S. are still out there, Striker is still out there, we could literally be focusing on anything else but another missed opportunity for Moxxie to do something for himself for once instead of getting help AGAIN.
If you look on her right arm you can see her bracelet . She uses the crystal set up in season 2 ep 1 using as a way for travel and to hide
I really like Helluva Boss, but, this episode..
I really didn't liked it. Especially for the same reason, Moxxine. Moxxie is one of my favourite character of the show but, just, no ! He's just not what Moxxine reflects of him, but I guess you explained it better in the vid' , with the german word also.
What I wanted to talk about is Barbie's transformation. When she changed into a more human form there were crystal like shapes around her, and, as we saw earlier in the episode, those shapes are assimilated with Asmodean Crystals (which Blitzo use to travel to the human realm, also, he didn't used Stolas Book). If we saw Verosika transform in S1E3, we would have saw those shapes I think.
As I understand it, Some creatures can transform into human like form (Stolas, and Hellhounds), and others (such as Succubi) needs to transform into humans and to go the human realm, so they use Asmodean Crystals, and every species can use them (Imp for example).
But why would Hellhounds be able to transform while not having a way to travel to the human realm ? That's the Limit of my theory..
I appreciate your research and dedication.
Duely noted but there are a few pressing matters I personally had.
Still waiting for an answer on why moxxie didnt go for the knife to kill that teen when he was choking him and the knife was right above them
Also, where was moxxie hiding his tail in his Disguise? Did he chop it off?
Lastly, if there are rehab centers in sloth... isnt that more or less what Hazbin Hotel is trying to do?
0:58 Um achtually 🤓
The sinner that asked for the hit wasnt a kid, they where a counselor... Which honestly makes it worse imo how the hell did he even get hired for a camp IN A LAKE if he doesnt know how to swim
I wonder if Millie's outcry of "being important" is meant to pave the way for her getting more development, in a similar fashion to RoboFizz's "does anybody love you?" line. I hope so otherwise, yeah, this reasoning feels like it comes out of nowhere
on the "why don't they disguise themselves?" thing, it's implied that they can't do it naturally like hellhounds, and need tools to do it on their own. If you look at Barbie Wire's transformation it had a crystal-like effect, just like the portal that Blitzo forced another demon to open using an Asmodean Crystal. simply put, I.M.P either can't afford one or Blitzo is too cheap to buy one.
Honestly
For the human disguises, the way I gathered it from Spring Broken, was that it’s something you had to buy, like a magical object that disguises you as a human that you had to buy to get said ability, and Blitzø is just too cheap to get it
And hell human disguises are probably only regulated to Incubi and Succubi since imps have no business being on Earth, then why do Hellhounds have human disguises? Just like Vortex from Spring Broken, bodyguards and protection. Barbie Wire and other imps don't have human disguises, she had to use the Asmodean Crystal to travel to earth and have a human disguise.
Just wanted to make sure, you did realize Barbie could only use a disguise because of her watch correct? I do agree from the point of, “why don’t the imps have that technology as well?” But still
When I watched this episode I just new you were gonna talk about how moxxie is being shit on again and 100% agree it was just forgotten to be funny💀
Hey, hey, +69 sins for Millie and Moxxie doing the dirty on stage
You forgot three more sins : literally in the last episode(by the chronology,not by the release) - Moxxie fought off three big bulky Imps from the Wrath Ring on his own without using weapon.And was able to double-team The BEST Assasin form Wrath - Striker.
And now he was beaten by...an ex-coke addicted ex-clown sister of Blitzo from Lust Ring...and he didn't even brought A GUN FOR AN ASSASINATION MISSION?!AFTER HE WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGHOUT AN ENTIRE SHOW AS A GUN-MAIN?!
I would've put even more sins for that.
(Sorry,just noticed the errors from T9)
7:29 I'm sorry, I genuinely can't believe someone would miss this, Barbie doesn't care if Blitzo was the one that actually killed Jimmy. Him being around her is clearly enough for her to be upset. To her, if Blitzo wasn't around, Jimmy would be alive (which also makes sense with the episode because either Barbie could take Moxxie in a fight and end it quicker or Moxxie kills Jimmy way faster and she never learns it was Blitzo's company) and she would still have her job. The nurse telling Blitzo not to mess up Barbie's life, not by interfering, but by simply finding her, tells me at least, that Barbie believes that bad things are bound to happen when Blitzo is just around, leading to her just not wanting to be around him ever (and also her blaming anything that goes wrong in her life on him if he happens to be nearby, maybe cause of something in the past but idk).
That's not an error, that's telling us how Barbie feels about Blitzo😅
If you notice the similar design that the portals produced by the asmodeus crystal and the particle effect emitted by Barbie's transformation, it seems the crystal are what gave Barbie her disguise, and perhaps the succubus and succubie their disguises as well. But I do find it strange that hellhounds can do it naturally without the help of an outside force like crystals or a grimore just like the much more powerful demons like Stolas
To be fair, teenager girls are that much bastard to each other. This is actually the only episode where the "everyone hates Moxxie" felt realistic.
I said it on Tumblr, and I'll say it here too; I love that we got Barbie’s introduction and some Millie focus……. But it also would’ve been nice if those two things had their own episode-
As is, it feels like neither gets enough focus and cancel each other out as Millie and Barbie have no real connective tissue in the plot.
Just refer to Harvest Moon in season 1; Moxxie-focused and introduced Striker who was directly tied to Moxxie’s insecurities, amplifying both in the process.
Why couldn’t Unhappy Campers be like that? And yeah, I'm getting real tired of the "everyone hates Moxxie" thing too-
I am somehow more excited for these videos then the actual episode
I think some people ( I say some because not all will agree ) owe the Cherub episode an apology.
Yep especially after this one!
Yeah. I will say that Cherubs is better than this
Bro, FACTS! I completely agree with basically everything you said, with the exception that I think the incest joke was hilarious. I did not enjoy this episode. I even thought that fight scene was super slow and uninteresting. And I hate Moxxine on a deep level, because I usually find characters with the valley girl voice hilarious! (Idk why, I just do) AND you spoke a lot clearer than usual in this video. 10/10 video for a 1/10 episode.
Fans wanna cream their pants over Moxxie's outfit in this episode (I mean they cream their pants every time Moxxie cross-dresses. Lol) even though I don't think he "slays" in it at all. I hope Richard never does that kind of girl voice ever again. He made him sound cringy as fuck.
Saaame. I had serious fremdschamen when it came to Moxie/Moxine. Like yeah, it would have been fine, overall, if the joke had stopped after moxie attempted to talk with the human girls - failed - and then switched it up or said screw it and went with millie's straightforward approach. But since they continued to force the moxine joke through the whole episode and suddenly made moxie super narsasistic, towards millie no less, the majority of the episode just felt like a drag aside from blitz's side plot
Even though, personally, I did kind of like/didn't mind millie's songs though I can't exactly put my finger on why.
It was never shown, but what if the human disguise was because of those crystals? It's the same pattern. And blue clear triangles do not seem to be a red imps correct, er, magical aura thing. Also it was on her wrist going home.
Yup, it's an Asmodean crystal, which are typically given to succubi to travel to the human world with human disguises; it's implied that Stolas wants to give Blitz one, and is going to meet up with Asmodeus to try and get one :)
Honestly it’s not that Moxxie was an insecure jerk that was an issue for me (that has been shown a lot in the previous episodes), it was more taking out his insecurities ON HIS WIFE, which ticked me off. Because for all of HB, we’ve been constantly reminded how much the M&Ms are relationship goals, constantly sticking together and caring for each other through thick and thin. The one healthy relationship amongst all the toxic ones. But this outburst seems a bit out of left field, even for Moxxie.
Given his past behavior, I would've expected Moxxie to be down on himself and think "Man, I wish I could be as cool as Millie".
Weird thing I noticed, when Millie said to "Keep playing to your strengths," we don't see that for the rest of the episode. At all. Right after that scene, we have the montage scene of the entire week, Moxie and Millie's fight, Moxie apologizing in front of the entire camp, the barbie fight, and the makeout scene after that. Where during that entire line of events does he try this again?
To be fair, teenager heiarchy is strange. Being siblings with a popular kid does not give you any sort of status
Ah, so the germans have a name for it ? I gotta say, I got an immense amount of fremdschamen from this episode
i usually agree with your opinions on the show, so this is actually really interesting. IMO, this was definitely one of the better ones from season 2 and i found myself laughing at some of the dumb bits. i think the moxxine thing was a little annoying but more bearable for me because i am actually a real teen girl and i hate the popular girl written by 50 yo men trope, and the fact they were shitting on it was fun. the exxageration of the different reactions for millard and moxxine was more gratifying and funny because of that. love your videos though, keep up the good work
Barbie Wire is able to have a human disguise because she had an Asmodean Crystal. I imagine that Hellhounds are lower than Imps despite having more power than them because of the population difference and some sort of circumstance. but everything else you said in this i wholeheartedly agree with
edit: fremdschämen is the word? nice. genuinely the first time i ever experienced it, so that really says a LOT about that episode
@5:48 - 7:03 Hit the nail on the head regarding why imps can't disguise themselves as humans, but hell-hounds can.
I'll further add that it shouldn't be the viewers' job to fill in the blanks or correct the contradictions left behind by the writers of the show, so saying things like "Maybe hell-hounds have some powers that the imps don't have, but imps are more powerful overall" or "Maybe part of this hierarchy is entirely social like all of the unfair hierarchies that are present in the real world" does nothing to clarify why something unfolds the way it does in an episode. Seriously, I could come up with an answer to why something is this way in the show that as equally inventive as these answers, but it would be conjecture, not evidence.
As I've said before on your other videos, the writers of this show really need to nail down the concept of The Plausible Impossible - i.e. consistency within an fantastic story world, even if it's something as mundane as social hierarchies (e.g. Ozzie's and Queen Bee regarding social taboos of who can have a relationships with who).
Millie is worthless unless she’s building moxxie up. Even when the show tears moxxie down to give Millie time to shine, she is worthless until it’s time to build him up again.
One of my favorite details, and possibly the only thing I liked from this episode myself (even though I must admit I didn't notice it until I re-watched the end section a few times since it was frankly the only part of the episode worth watching) was the way Barbie had her family crest or whatever it was on her forehead crossed out to show that either she had been disowned when she went to rehab or had done it herself to say she wasn't a part of the same family as Blitz anymore... of course, there was no acknowledgement of any sort for this and its implications, consequences, or reason, but that seems to feel like most of this show so far... fun ideas that the fans are required to flesh out with their own headcanons as collectively agreed on by the fandom... or little ideas that almost seem like they were supposed to be so much more but never went anywhere... Like we get full continuity for Blitz's sister, but nothing for the possible similarities between the death of the client and Moxie's mother in a Moxie/Millie centered episode...
Also as a side thing, since I didn't see this in the comments a lot... did anyone else think Blitz was sneaking into the hospital to visit Stolas instead of his sister's rehab?
Neat observation, and Nope.
I definitely didn't think he was visiting Stolas, considering it didn't look like his hospital room.
Agreed, Moxxine was painful to watch, reminds me of everything wrong with 'Velma'. We're supposed to like the main cast but they made him trash to the point I'm siding with the mean girls yet I know this is someone I'm meant to like so it still feels bad that he gets sh*t on at the same time :/
I don't feel good about Millerd either because her getting famous is just another 🖕 to Moxxie. Why did they have to destroy him at the same time they raise her up? And not even in a way that has us cheering along. Might be onto something about AI. The only time I laughed was Moxxie getting attacked by the shark because it was a callback to a good running gag.
I think Mills and Mox being brother and sister (and their weird conflict in this episode) might be foreshadowing for the backstory between Barb and Blitz
Barbie getting all the attention like Millie, Blitz not getting enough attention like Moxxie
Omg that's actually a really good theory 🤯
The incest part isn't foreshadowing too right?
@@chordsofsteel-i4j i doubt it
@@chordsofsteel-i4j I sure hope not
4:32 It’s like the universe itself wants you to continue the bit
They had things that were important for the characters, like handling a job, confronting a sister, and plot points like solving a mystery and they just... Wasted them from a writing perspective. Removed all stakes and pacing that would get the emotional resonance.
Also as another commenter said, Mox's mom died in water, so the crime could have had personal meaning to Mox
One thing I like about this episode though, is that drowned camper guy at the beginning has a really cool design!
One thing i really hope for is a Millie centered episode that is NOT overshadowed by Moxxie, Viv said these Millie episodes are coming, really hoping episode was not it
I liked this episode, but good god it has some cringy ass scenes.
I absolutly love this! This is my favorite series, besides helluva boss
I don't like the fact that for the whole episode we see Moxxie suffering and Millie having a really good time and then when Millie is mad at Moxxie I am supposed to feel bad for her after I just saw her be happy and Moxxie be really sad (yes Moxxie kind of deserved some of it but I think it was mainly because the writers wanted him to suffer and they just made him act stupid as an excuse). I am not saying that she was in the wrong here but still that just doesn't work.
Also thank you for letting me know that the word fremdschämen exists because that is a feeling I have felt many times in my life but I didn't know what it's called and yes I also hated all the moments with Maxine.
I honestly loved this episode, mostly because now Moxxie and Millie feel like characters and not fluff fic protags. To me, even though it's not executed the best, this plotline is groundbreaking!
I agree that the M&Ms made up way too quick, but I don't agree that this is out of character for either of them. Millie feeling unimportant would be an outlandish claim if she had the same background as everyone else, but she's from the Wrath ring where people as strong as her are dime a dozen. She herself was sidelined from big events because she fucked up and was too open with her bloodshed. So it makes sense with this background that she'd feel this way. And Moxxie, Moxxie's insecurities have been a plot point since Episode 5, only this time they're painted in a negative light, and the connotation shift is not done well so I agree that on first watch, I did think this was out of character. But, Moxxie is as plagued with insecurities as Blitzø and for the first time, he was trusted with something, and his WIFE who was already the powerhouse of the company, figured it out in two minutes!
As for the negatives, I hated Moxxine and I hated the incest jokes, I strongly agree. I disagree with the song though. I feel like this is the most in character thing Moxxie could do this episode. He puts a wrong foot forward by doing a more theatre-based song, which is already not up the kids' alley, but he makes it worse by overcompensating and injecting all of his insecurities into the song and I personally think this one moment was genius.
This is definitely not a perfect episode, but I definitely loved it.
Same I’d give it like a 7/10
@@Gojirasaurus_rex Oh on a ratings system I'd say 6.5/10 the beginning really drags but the rest of the episode makes up for it imo
@@Hootzell oh ok
7:28 to be fair he kinda did. There's no way he would have just been standing there in the middle of the cabin if blitz and moxxie didn't enter
13:09 Even for an episodic series, it's hard to ignore the inconsistencies. If there is a plan, the execution feels botched.
One thing that really bothers me, is that during the fight Mooxie uses a knife instead of a gun even though his specialty is guns???
Am I the only one who noticed how Moxxie and millie’s tails disappear for this entire episode
Just a comment with some of my thoughts
I think the reason why Moxxie failed so bad while Millie was extremely successful was because Moxxie tried to fit a character that didn't feel like himself. Millie was able to fit in the Millerd persona because it wasn't too out of character for her; it feels right at home for her to be proficient at sports and she doesn't have to fake anything to fit in.
On the other hand, Moxxie was trying to be someone he was not for the whole episode and had to guess a lot of the information and blunder through all of the interactions he had, kind of like Elf when Buddy had to interact with humans for the first time because he grew up in the North Pole (basically cringe and embarrassing to witness such events that would otherwise be navigated effortlessly for an 'average' human)
I felt like Moxxie should have had the option to bring more disguises to this week-long job, even though it could have and should have been finished on the first day. Considering the corkboard he set up before initiating the hit, even though it was based on little information, Moxxie portrayed himself as a methodical tactician who wanted to do the job with precision
If more disguises were available, I think it could have improved the episode by using Moxxine as a method that failed, so Moxxie would try a different persona to continue pushing the investigation forward. It would have lowered the amount of fremdschämen and cringe that the audience had to endure, and possibly make the fight more meaningful because Moxxie would be getting frustrated that none of his methods were working while Millie was able to easily fit into her persona and be a popular figure. That and maybe it would have written out the incest jokes and possibly create a celebrity scandal that probably had a better chance at landing, if they had to keep the news flash at the end
This episode is just saying "lets develop the underdeveloped character by making one of the developed characters look bad"
The reason Barbie has an asmodean crystal is because she’s likely working for Asmodeus, and he gives them out to his employees to go up to earth
I pray to everything almighty that the leaks for the next episode aren’t true. I will actually drop this show like it had a spider on it.
Though even if it does end up being true, seeing how the fandom reacts will be...interesting.
What leaks?
@@cyan789 I haven't looked them up my self, but this is what I've heard. *SPOILERS* for those trying to avoid leaks.
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Word is is that the antagonist of episode 6 preys on the characters' insecurities. For Millie, he tries to convince her that she's a bad wife and that Moxxie deserves better. His words affect her so badly that she tries to commit suicide before the others manage to stop her.
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Honestly I think they could write it in a way that's effective and doesn't feel like Millie's character boils down to "Moxxie's wife" once more, if that rumor turns out to be true.
Although this show has taught me not to place my hopes too high, so only time will tell.
A asmodean crystal gives you a human disguise that’s why Barbie has her human disguise
Glad to know you hated this episode too. I just found it underwhelming, and was disappointed that so little was done with Barbie other than being a THIRD person that hates Blitzo for something he did, and like with FIzz, we have no f*cking idea what it is, and at this point, I feel it's either going to be so underwhelming that you wonder why Fizz and Barbie made such a stink about it, or it's going to be so bad that it ruins everything that they build Blitz up for.
The fact that people keep insisting that this is a 'well-written' show and that people are media-illiterate when they say otherwise just infuriataes me.
That and I am just getting very annoyed with the fandom.
As someone who actually liked this episode, you do be spitting bars here.
Edit: u forgor to add a sin for Millie's guitar not having frets.
I think it's unfair to say Moxie and Millie can't have a fight. Moxie has been shown to have many insecurities and this being his first official lead only for Millie to spot the correct guy right away plummeted his hope. One of the big issues with the series (no fault of Viv or Spindlehorse at all) is that the episodes take a while to release. I think the 'Moxime' character is quite literally a character that Moxie puts on to try and air out his trauma and desperate need for approval that is bursting out in petulance evident of his song only focusing him. You could say season 1 ep 6 shows Moxie's growth past his desperation, but all that came crashing down after he was forced to revisit the house where only his abusive father raised him.
For Millie thinking she isn't important I'd believe that's more about her not thinking she stands out. She is native and was raised in Wrath, where being violent and being very good at killing with your own hands is the standard, and that's why enjoys the celebrity attention, as she's know being known for something else even if she's under an 'disguise'.
This show seems to have a bad or poor habit or trying to foreshadow too much, instead of just outright telling us some very key things like why EXACTLY Moxie is lashing out Millie, instead of just having Moxie take a very hard turn especially since Moxie has been someone who has almost always blamed either himself in cases where it is undoubtedly someone's fault like Blitz making very convenient noise at the beginning of the Truth Seeker episode.
I feel like the "Imps should be able to disguise themselves too" is an unfair thing for you to point out...because they still can't. Asmodeus crystals are implied to not only open portals to the living realm AND disguise the user, if you look at the effects when Barbie opens the portal and transforms back into her normal imp form, the effects are very similar. So Barbie isn't the one with the power. The crystal on her bracelet/watch is what's letting her look human and enter the human world.
I think the Imps > Hellhounds thing comes from the fact that imps are able to adopt them from the hound shelter.
“Was this episode written by AI or something??”
Worse. It was written by Adam Neylan
Why I think Barbie Wire can have a human disguise: She has an Asmodeus Crystal which are given to Succubi so that means her new job is working for them in some way, because why would she have to go to earth other than to be a succubi. (The drugs seem to be for her own addiction to me) So what I think is there is some way to get a promotion in the hierarchy and that’s why she can transform now.
I think the Asmodean crystal is what allowed Barbie to disguise herself, rather than an innate ability of imps
If there is one thing I have noticed so far spindlehorse has a very bad time keeping the narrative straight. It still bugs the living hell out of me that we had that big blow up in season 1 and then by the second episode of season 2 it was like it never fucking happened. Now we got this one which really felt out of place, yeah millie never got her own episode but she was never looked down on in any of the others. They are always saying how great she is though cant decide if she is going to be absolutely bad ass or a damsel in distress. The whole millie upbringing by knocking down moxie just feels... so wrong.
This episode was painful to watch for me.
Even though I'm a big fan of moxie as a character, whenever he was on screen it was painful.
Maybe this I just a me thing, but I really hate the punching bag stereotype. And the thing is, if they keeped him as just that, that would have been fine, but they have him go over character arcs too and make us invested in his character? So do you want us to hate moxie or emphasize with him? You can't have your cake and eat it two you know.
One big thing that makes this episode wrong is Moxxie doing the exact opposite thing in front of human kids when he wasnt this around the far younger kids in EPISODE 1, he at this point is not a good character and that song he made just is so horrendous. Why couldnt Moxxie and Millie just disguise themselves as human adult employees?
It's come to the point where I think they're pissing on moxie on purpose just to make people mad. This episode was hot garbage
4:41 in all fairness, birds can be cruel. Sure it may be a trope, but it is mostly true.
Tbh it's not a bad idea for a M&M conflict. Moxxie feeling underestimated, wants to prove himself and Millie immeadetely takes his chance by spotting the subject right along. Yeah Moxxie acted stupid and he should've remembered what Blitzo said to him in S1E6. But like you said the writers forgot about this. Millie always seemed like the powerhouse that just has a good time. She never showed in any frame that she was unimportant. Blitzo praises her work. Millie's feelings could come from her big family and bein threated unfairly but again the fans have to speculate. We don't get anything shown just told which is bad story telling.
I'd rather watch the chad singing scene again than watch unhappy campers again ngl
4:55 yes! That’s the first thing I thought of when she said that!
The fact it’s come so late with no build up in any episode, like a background thing of her doing gestures ignored by others or something, makes it feel like build up to me for some reason
I still don’t understand why Moxxie said he and Millie were brother and sister instead of girlfriend and boyfriend
yeahhh, same.
Wait, I never realized how much like Invader Zim this is... aside from the fact that Moxxie is voiced by Zim.
To me this episode is an encapsulation of everything wrong with the show as a whole. It’s inconsistent, doesn’t know if it’s an episodic comedy, emotional drama, or lore heavy series. I genuinely think this is the worst episode in the series.
Hate to be nitpicky- but the reason barbie wire has a disguise is because she has an asmodean crystal, that also lets her travel between the human world and hell. While i'm not quite sure how she got such an extremely rare object, i think it's likely that getting a human disguise like loona or stolas takes some amount of time, money, or effort, which the IMP gang might just be too lazy to do
Where was it said that the Crystals give disguises and where's the Crystals Verosika & her posse have to do that in the Spring Break episode huh?
I don’t have any problem with Blitz calling Moxxie a disgrace. Moxxie was a disgrace on that mission
Hey me ether
I feel like a dedicated fan to how fast I tap the video
i agree with most of these opinions. BUT there are a few things i wanna share my opinions about.
first off, i wouldn't lable this as a bad episode, more like an okay episode, but that might just be because millie finally got some attention, even if it still turned into her having to support moxxie again. it's just annoying that even in an episode where she gets some spotlight, she's still pretty much the same. all we know is that she doesn't feel important/special to anybody (not even her husband apperantly) which i thing both have to do with her family. seeing as millie has many siblings who are all probably just as good at fighting and killing as she is, it would make sense why she likes the attentions the humans give her. and i do hope we get to see more of the reason behind her wanting the attention.
now moxxie was....just a dick, but it wan't out of character. moxxie's whole thing is being insecure about himself and wanting to do stuff the right way. now he gets his first mission so everything has to go perfect, and when it doesn't he gets petty. he gets angry like he's a 5 year old and people aren't playing the game how he want's it to be played, and with all that anger he lashes out at millie. i agree with people who are saying that they solved it way to fast, they could've done the fight, then have moxxie go after the killer and realise his mistakes as he sees barbie telling blitzo to fuck off as she goes through the portal, and THEN he goes to the stage to apologize to millie. we didn't need the millerd being complimented and praised at the start of the concert.
for blitzo-well i don't have much. i mean it was fun to see barbie, i liked her, i liked her voice. it's annoying that we still don't know why every relationship with him is fucked up and that's pretty much it for him
and i have literally nothing to say about loona besides the fact that she once again says nothing. the reason for this has been shared on twitter but it's annoying that such a fan favourite character is basically being muted my the creator.
once again these are my opinions, you can agree or disagree all you want but it won't change my mind on how i see this episode
I disagree that Moxxie and Millie having a fight wouldn’t be believable. Even the healthiest relationships have fights.
Bro is getting quick with these new videos
Edit: now that I've finished the video I completely agree, I hated this episode and I only really saw like half of it cuz I kept on just pressing the skip 10 seconds button, until barbie wire showed up
I somehow sat through almost all of it with the help of the pause button.
I give that experience a solid 1/10.
Honestly I do think that it is a funny "coincidence" that both Viv and Kyle are pumping out these videos as quick as they are.
For Millie's song in this. I interpreted that at first she was trying to stay modest with the fame but as the song goes on it becomes obvious she's just humble bragging.
This is exactly how I feel That is the episode I hate with every fiber of my existence. I completely forgot about the importance of Barbie wire And the crystal just because of how unbearable it was listening to moxxie.
I don't feel all that much sympathy for Mox. He's not growing - I just see him bringing his wife down to the level he thinks he's at because he's insecure. It's always her supporting him and his ego. Never the other way around.
Honestly it would have fit more if Moxxie were the star and Millie was ignored. Then the emotional climax would be resonant with a dynamic that's already there. Moxxie's ego almost ruins a case and discourages/ignores his wife, but they reconcile and he humbles himself enough to listen to her lead on the mystery and they have a final concert together after solving it.
Also for a whole new family member of Blitz's to be introduced and established as someone he worries about and a drug addict... There should have been better pacing with all that potential yk.
I think the reason that Millie felt that she was 'never important' is because of having so many siblings.
This whole episode was painful to watch.
You know, I thought Exes and Oohs was the worst but then this episode came around and brought probably the worst character in the show for me.
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@@jeremiahwalker3795 Barbie
they should’ve introduced Barb in The Circus, but no. we just get a female imp that seemed like a groomer because she flashed Jimmy (who seemed like he was around 15 or 16). Sure, Viv did state in a tweet that counselor Jimmy is 18 or 19, but i am not convinced.
Honestly the episode would be average-ish if it wasn't for Moxie who feels like a completely different character. First of all we already have plenty of moxie feels insecure and an adequate episodes we didn't need another one, impacted felt like the show was having moxie step his game up especially after the last episode. Then we get this, where he seemed to be dumber, reckless, and overall a giant baby. Which really sucks because Moxie usually is my favorite character and I would have loved to have seen him prove he could handle this on his own. This is the only episode in the human world this season and it was really disappointing.
Don't forget that "Seeing Stars" was in the human world, but the characters weren't on a job.
The most common explanation I've seen for why Barbie Wire has a human disguise is that her transformation spell uses the same crystalline animation that her opening the portal does, therefore Asmodean crystals can do shapeshifting magic too. (Which would genuinely make sense given Asmodeus' powers, penchant for shapeshifting, and the general association succubi have with human disguises as well.)
This would be a pretty good explanation, honestly, but it just rides on so many "implied", "probably", "it seems to work this way", and catching a small visual detail that for all we know doesn't mean anything... if just ONE of any of those elements was further clarified or reinforced, we'd have a great answer. We'd be left with the question of "why does Barbie have a crystal", but, damn.
edit: goofed some of my wording lmao NEVER COMMENT BEFORE FINISHING THE VIDEO LADS
HOW DID BARBIE NOT NOTICE THE M&MS AT ALL OVER THE COURSE OF A FUCKING WEEK-
Okay but is NOBODY going to talk about the literal sex scene at the end in front of an audience full of minors? This is legit the only thing that I found actually messed up, even for the show's standards. If it was in front of a normal audience, one filled with actual adults, it would be just a "haha incest joke moment". But no, they pulled that in front of a crowd filled with preteens. Actual children. Who animated this? Who actually approved this?? Who thought that it would be a good idea to do such a thing in the first place?
And don't start with the "it's an adult show". No, I am not saying that. Even though there's also minors that are watching the show, the show itself informs you that this is an adult animation. The issue here is that the production decided to animate Millie and Moxxie have a +18 time in front of children that thought that they two of them were siblings. Again... Who thought that this would be a good idea??