A few things to note: 14:32 I hope I'm not coming off as hostile to this one random dude who left a comment on my video. I always find myself getting so frustrated with these channels that seem to exist for the sole purpose of sucking this show off and convincing as many people as they can that the show is actually more genius than the creators ever intended. HOWEVER, there's an equal argument to make that this guy (and others like him) are just looking at other peoples' opinions and realizing that the "flaws" they had in their heads might not actually be flaws at all and that there are other ways to appreciate the show that they hadn't noticed before. I guess it depends on who you ask. Maybe I'm being unfair again and I overstepped a little with this point. 10:23 I originally wanted to leave in the full clip of this scene because the lengthy romantic fireworks make the final joke so much funnier. BUT, I got hit with a content ID for the music and I lost the appeal, so I had to trim it down. And now, here are all of the various different shows that I showed clips of over the course of this video, in order of appearance. All shows are on Crunchyroll, except where noted. *Kaguya-sama: Love Is War* I didn't actually play a clip of this one, but it was on one of the posters that I showed in that one frame and I had to give it a mention because this show has an incredible cast of characters and is the single funniest show that I have ever seen. Also, the dub is equally as good as the sub. Ian Sinclair's English narration alone might even make it better. *Tomo-Chan Is a Girl* The other anime that I showed a poster of but didn't show any clips of. Misuzu and Carol are infinitely more entertaining than the two lead characters. I didn't finish this one. *Don't Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro* This anime has one of the most misleading premieres of all time. Nagatoro is absolutely horrible to the main character in the first episode. HOWEVER, if you can just get through that first episode, she never acts that cruelly ever again, and the eventual chemistry that the two characters share is so cute and sweet that it's almost enough to distract you from the author's obvious humiliation fetish. I didn't get far into this one, but I've seen a ton of clips and I get why people like it. *Komi Can't Communicate (Netflix)* This show has a big tiddie classmate that wants Komi to treat her like a dog and an out of place yandere character that everybody universally despises. But if you can get past that, this is the ultimate feel good romantic comedy anime about a girl who struggles to communicate with people and the only guy in school who is actually able to understand her, help her, and support her. I really need to finish this show, definitely recommend it. *My Dress-Up Darling* I definitely recommend this one. If you don't live alone, I recommend watching it with headphones in an environment where other people can't sneak up on you watching it. It's a really raunchy show even by anime standards, but it's actually a REALLY good show if you can get past that. Also, Marin is best girl. No contest. It's not even close. *The Last of Us (Max)* I know that most of my viewers are cartoon nerds, but even you guys have heard of this show before. I don't need to tell you how good it is. *Re:Zero - Starting Life in Another World From Zero* One of the most well constructed, written, and acted shows I've ever witnessed. This is a show that expects you to be able to understand context clues and piece things together. This series demands your undivided attention from start to finish. Also, it has such an incredible soundtrack that there was one song (Chain of Memories) that nearly made me cry for a character that I could not have possibly cared less about. HOWEVER, I personally didn't care that much for the show and actually thought that the second season was kinda bloated and boring. But I'm definitely in the minority, there. Like Pink Floyd's "The Wall," I can appreciate the work that went into it, but I personally thought it was a little boring and I'm probably not going to revisit it any time soon. *ODDTAXI* No, this isn't just some furry anime. In fact, out of all the shows that I've mentioned so far, this is the one that I recommend the most. It's a very plot heavy show that isn't filled with constant action or jokes, but it's only 13 episodes long and very hard to forget.
In regards to 14:32, I do see where you're coming from. I think you're correct on both counts. I think some people do give genuine thought to someone else's perspective and decide that they make a good point. But I also think that there are people who either have parasocial feelings towards a particular UA-camr and will mindlessly parrot what they say or they're easily influenced so they won't question any halfway convincing argument. In general I think some people don't appreciate that just because a fan theory makes sense, that doesn't mean it's true. For example, people have noted that Blitzo's line in "Western Energy" "He can get hurt?" doesn't make sense, because Blitzo already knew that there are weapons that can hurt or even kill demons of Stolas's status. Several people have argued that while Blitzo may have logically knew that Stolas could get hurt, the fact that he's not invulnerable may not have felt truly "real" to him until he saw the results himself. And I think that's a perfectly sensible explanation. At the same time, I still think the way they presented that scene was weird, and given all of the show's other inconsistencies I can't fully discount the possibility that the writers just forgot that Blitzo was already aware of what angelic weaponry could do.
I always assumed that Blitzo was supposedly at fault because I just thought the birthday fire spread so far that all the tents caught fire and the horses didn’t play a major role
The timeline from Blitzo's perspective is: Blitzo knocks over a single birthday cake > Horses get spooked and start running around everywhere > Every single tent is now on fire > Fireworks go off If a few birthday candles are what was responsible for every single tent going up in flames in a matter of minutes, then the person responsible for this fire is whoever decided that these birthday candles were safe and legal. Either that, or Blitzo started a tiny fire that everyone could have easily evacuated from and then the horses made everything turn into an out-of-control inferno.
@@RandomGameCritic who should be put to blame is whoever made these tents to be so flammable, if just a few candles can destroy an entire, giant effing circus (like, honestly lol)
Yeah I agree, the only major gripe I had with this episode was the fact that Blitzo’s/Fizz’s backstory was rushed through way too fast to the point where it couldn’t really get any emotional impact. I feel like if they took their time, explained things more clearer, and wrote the scene a little bit better, it could’ve been one of if not the most emotional impactful moments from the entire show.
I actually think that was deliberate so that they can return to it at a later time. All we got here is how that night affected Fizz. I'm expecting there will be a flashback sequence with Barbie Wire as well, where she accuses Blitz of ruining everything. Possibly angled so that she sees him shove the cake holder but can't see the letter in his hand.
Ozzie was okay with the fact that Stolas cheated because it’s what lust is about, s*x because it’s good. But the fact the hells standard says that r**e is really bad because it’s not about lust it’s about force and not good s*x. Also I love your content this is my nitpick of your nitpick. Lmao
Kinda wierd that hell has a standard at all tbth. When you think of hell I think the main thing you think of IS no standard for morality. Then again, this is a tv show and hell can't just be a pit of nothing but suffering and characters gotta be a little likable so concessions have to be made in areas like that to facilitate that
@@AManOnline. i think the difference for standards in hell is the fact that people are born and raised here, and therefore there will be standards for actual hell residents vs sinners who just popped in existence in one ring so they can live there miserably for all eternity because they were awful pre-death
It doesn't suck if we just acknowledge that this world is nothing more than an artist's playground that is goofy and inconsistent and not meant to be endlessly dissected and analyzed. This is why I repeatedly tell people to stop taking this show so seriously. All it does is make the whole experience negative and miserable.
To explain the hellfire thing, they quite literally did say “we’re not effected by YOUR fire,” Heavily implying that they won’t be hurt by fire from EARTH. So while yes, it’s kinda ironic that the incident was caused by a fire when Blitzø didn’t get burned by fire in episode one, but the difference is the fact in Blitzø’s backstory it is hell fire rather than normal, so it does kinda make sense Edit: so it turns out I misunderstood the situation and thought he just forgot how hell fire worked, so I thought I should remind him, so just kinda ignore what I said
Here’s the thing: if we’re going that in depth with the world building, then that just raises a bunch of other questions. Chief among them is this: WHY ARE IMPS USING HELLFIRE TO LIGHT CAKE CANDLES? If they’re immune to normal fire, why not not use that instead? It’s a contrivance one way or another.
@@benjaminfricke4791 good point, but maybe it’s for the same reasons we use normal fire on our cakes, even if it could burn us, also if they managed to get normal fire, how exactly? It’s not like Blitzø’s family is rich, the reason Blitzø has gotten to earth was due to the book, and that was literally years after the fact, unless a sinner or demon somehow snuck a normal lighter into hell, how would they get normal fire?
@@DiamondThing A lil addition to add, I don't think there IS normal fire there, Since if you look at all of the scenes where fire is involved, it's the green hellfire. Even in the episode when Striker blew up, hellfire showed up. Hellfire is the default in Hell.
@@debbiesworldofcreativity1108 that’s something I forgot to mention, but I would’ve included it if I remembered to, and it makes sense, if earth doesn’t have hell fire, and hell has there same hell fire all throughout the rings, then why would they have normal fire?
I admittedly had to think about it for a second, but there are exceptions to all fire being hellfire in hell. The first thing that came to mind is Loona’s IMP lighter from “Seeing Stars,” which produces plain old orange fire. There’s probably others, but I’ll leave that to you. I really don’t feel like searching through the entire show.
The coffee gag is funny Fizz poured it for himself but missed thr mug because he can't see it, then he ends up leaving the mug behind and taking the pot, again he can't see.
Well, they really botched the joke, then. If they wanted to do it well, they should have started by have the music comedically stop as soon as Fizz started spilling the coffee to show that it was an awkward mistake that wasn't intentional. Maybe they could have added in some sort of grumbling noises from Fizz while he keeps trying and failing to reposition the pot in order to pour it correctly. THEN he would just give up and grab the whole pot. It'd also be crucially important for them to remove the shot of the succubus on the way back because the final punchline would rely on Fizz chugging the pot _immediately_ after he gives up on pouring it into the cup. That's how you make this joke actually land.
@@kfcroc18 no he's saying it needs to be executed better. When I first watched the episode I had no idea what happened so I rewinded it, saw what they were going for and even I didn't know why that happened. And then once RGC said it was the classic "coffee spill gag" I finally understand. But it still didn't land
@@kfcroc18 my brother. I literally just said how I didn't get it the first time and RGC did as well. If something happens almost the exact same way twice to two different people, I feel like it would be kinda agreed that it's possible
This episode actually confirms my theory that Blitzo has PTSD from the fire!!! The fact that he completely runs away from a affection and cry seeing his mother on his phone! He can't stay in a relationship because he doesn't want to relive and be trigger of that trauma!Thats why he made the “o” in his name silent so he doesn't have to be reminded of it!
If he had PTSD from the fire and that was something they were planning from the start, he actually would have had some reaction to the fire in the human realm before remembering human fire can't hurt him, and he _definitely_ would have had a reaction to burning Robo Fizz at Loo Loo Land. He did not.
I think the missing part of the backstory was intentional, fizz remembered Blitzø leaving him there on purpose. But Blitzø remembered it as him trying to save his mom. It was supposed to show that they remembered it differently.
10:48 Actually I think those horses are outside of the tent but the sky is covered by other tents, I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they’re outside
@@RandomGameCriticI don’t think you’re a toxic fan for pointing out this problems with continuity and following up on previous events. I think you’re completely justified because we’re supposed to be invested in these characters and world, from Vivzie’s told us.
@@RandomGameCritic Speaking of, have you heard of the Hello Neighbor games? If so, could you do a video on their UA-cam show, Welcome To Raven Brooks, because it has similar problems to HB.
Hold on. I adore the factory scene because it hammers home that Asmodeus isn't going to act like because he's the embodiment of lust he can treat his employees like cum dumpsters - he actually treats them better than expected. Fun place to work, too. Otherwise, yeah, I appreciate the animation work on the show but not a lot else. Wait, hold up - does Greed not have a grocery store? You mean Fizz has to buy milk from a gas station?!
A small detail I remember from the first episode is Blitz says “Yeah, sorry lady, YOUR fire doesn’t hurt us”. I just take that as a marker that regular fire is the kind demons are immune to, and this green fire is more demonic in nature and thus can hurt them.
I probably should have gone over this better, but I think that the way that Helluva Boss handles Moxxie and Millie's relationship is by repeatedly telling you that they're in love rather than making you feel it. In my opinion, the scene in the basement of "Harvest Moon Festival" was the only moment where they felt like real people in a real relationship. Everything else is just shipping fuel, shipping fuel, shipping fuel.
@@RandomGameCritic I disagree. One of my favourite mox/mil scenes is when she rescues him in spring broken and then when she comes out of the water the first thing she asks is "Is Mox ok?" And how they see Blitz screwing up the objective because of his obsession with Loona's love life and they're just like "Ok, we'll do it." They work as a flawless team as a good couple should. I also love the harvest moon basement scene you said, and the third good one is Millie just losing her shit when she thinks Mox is lost. We have NEVER seen Millie lose her cool. Not until Mox is kidnapped. That shows the depth of her affection for him.
Honestly, Blitz and Stolas aren't supposed to be a good couple. They're SUPPOSED to be dysfunctional and bad for each other. That's the point, that's the entire point is for them to be terrible as a couple and POSSIBLY get better later on. As for Mox and Millie, they WERE a perfect couple with amazing chemistry. But fans complained too much and Viv SEEMS to have caved in to the complaints that they're too perfect and aren't interesting because of that. And honestly? Fuck those fans.
First of all... Viv may be a talented writer, but you can't take her word on anything. At one point, she said that Millie was intentionally underdeveloped because Helluva Boss was intended to be a male focused show and that Hazbin Hotel would be more female focused, which would be an incredibly boneheaded creative decision to make even if she didn't immediately pivot to a different excuse when people didn't buy that one. Second, I don't think that Blitzo and Stolas are meant to be a bad couple. If that was what they were going for, they would have written the show that way.
It's weird how incredibly different our perceptions on that last point are. It's pretty plainly written that way to me, I don't see how it can be more obvious without being spelled out. As for the first part, I wasn't taking anything Viv said into account. I said it seemed that way. It was speculation on my part. @@RandomGameCritic
@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS yeah that was kind of a unrelated rant about Viv. I didn't read the first half of your comment well enough. But I really think that this show is trying to portray Blitzo x Stolas as a healthy couple that we're supposed to be rooting for.
@@RandomGameCritic I’m shocked you see it this way. For me personally watching the show, I feel the exact opposite, that they’re the most dysfunctional, unhealthy, trainwreck of a couple ever, that you hope eventually work because deep down they’re… decent people just can’t make it work. That’s the view I get that the show is trying to force. Heck, even when we finally got the backstory to their first get-together, Blitzø only stayed out of pure pity for being considered Stolas’ first ever friend. It’s actually very interesting when people can get very different perspectives from the same piece of media
@@RandomGameCritic I'd personally say less "healthy couple we're supposed to be rooting for" and more "currently dysfunctional couple that they want you to root for and see turn healthy down the line", even if they are fumbling with the execution in some ways.
I think the main issue from Fizz’s perspective is that he saw Blitz looking upset and then suddenly the tent is on fire. There is a good chance Fizz didn’t even know about the horses. And that I’m pretty sure that Blitz lit that specific tent on fire and the horses did the rest.
I loved this episode, but I feel like the flashback could've taken up an entire diffenent episode. That way, they could’ve taken their time, exploring both Blitzo and Fizzarolli's feelings and perspectives during that moment. Something similar to The Circus.
Yep! I also have a couple friends who saw Imagine Dragons on one of the free stages a few weeks after they unexpectedly blew up. Apparently that show was very crowded.
4:04 As much as i love this show i feel like the reason why the tone of the series has been so back and forth is because Brandon and Viv are playing tug of war of where they want the direction of the show to be Like Bradon intended to write the show to be more light-hearted, chaotic, and episodic Whereas Viv want the show to be more dramatic and leaning to the Stoliz nonsense. And tbh this is kinda showing in the writing mostly in S2...
I think Brandon's writing is kinda bit better than Viv because when Viv does story telling on Helluva, it's a mess at times. I think Viv is better at writing for Hazbin because Helluva can be episodic while Hazbin can be a character focused show. I jsut hope Viv improves on Hazbin once the A24 show gets released since she got help from new writers that took her place.
Having Stolas remain in the hospital for some time is not a high bar. You're being waaay too kind. If Stolas was simply going to be back on his feet in the next episode what was the point of injuring him in the first place. Unless they're trying to tell us that him being abandoned by Blizto is the reason that he's letting him go. They didn't make that clear though.
I had to think about this episode a lot following its release. On the one hand, it’s one of the better episodes in and of itself (definitely the best of Season 2), but upon consideration, it’s not really lacking the flaws of its predecessors; the good stuff is just better than usual and the bad stuff is less egregious. Like, there’s still tonal whiplash, the pacing is still off in a lot of places, the characterization is still painfully inconsistent, etc. In my honest opinion, I think this episode is almost exclusively carried by Fizzarolli (in a rarity among the cast) actually having compelling, and more importantly, *entertaining* dynamics with both Blitzø and Ozzie. Which is… not ideal, all things considered.
10:47 This point is just plain foolish in my opinion. Firstly, saying "Everyone says the fire was Blitzo's fault" even though only one person has been confirmed to at least thought that Blitzo was responsible (Fizzarolli) and the other being mostly a vauge allusion with some assumption (Barbie) is an exaggeration. Second, just because those two say it's his fault that's not the show saying it's his fault. The flashback shows both Fizzarolli and Blitzo's perspectives from the fire. Fizz saw Blitzo looking darkly at him from behind a tent curtain and then walk away only for a fire to errupt from that area and for him to be knocked into an explosion. Afterwards we saw Blitzo's perspective after he screamed "It was an accident," and the visuals show that. You say that "Obviously it was the horses" even though a major part of the flashback was Fizzarolli being injured in a huge fucking *explosion.* Even if the horses spread some of the fire it's clear that most of the damage was done by the fireworks going off. To get back to the original point, the show was not trying to say it was all Blitzo's fault, it was trying to say that everyone assumed it was Blitzo's fault since nobody actually saw what happened. If your interpretation of the flashback was "it was Blitzo's fault" then you must've missed the point because Blitzo literally screams "It was an accident." I don't mean any hate but to come to that conclusion even after the show shows the exact opposite is ridiculous.
(Quoting Blitz) “There was so much going on” I honestly think thats the best way to describe this shows plot. It wants to have 2 dif story’s where we feel sorry for Blitz while also ashamed at what he did at the same time…but he did nothing wrong! 😂 (that short end of the stick Blitz keeps getting gets shorter every episode lol)
the show isnt blaming blitz for the whole fire thing, its from fizzarollis perspective the last thing he sees before the fire is blitz looking angry then the fire growing fizzarolli assumes that blitz planned the whole fire incident because he was jealous of fizzarolli and thats why when blitz ran away fizzarolli assumed blitz didnt care. and i understand why no one realized that from just watching the episode its not even implied you have to like dig deep to figure that out
I agree with you.. But then this 3:56 christ on a stick is his freakin catchphrase, thats like if you gave a sin to spongebob every time he says "im ready"
Fun art design note, they made the flames in hell green as a point to show that it would burn the imps since they’re unnatural. In the first episode it’s orange and doesn’t hurt Millie and Blitzo, but the green ones do burn. I like that art design thing.
the only thing that irked me during the reveal is how blitzo outright implies and tells fizz that him losing his mother is actually more worth worrying abt (in fizz’s perspective, his best friends mom) rather than fizz ACTUALLY LOSING all his limbs and horns. I get that theyre both victims, but good grief blitzo is making it into a contest when its not. both are horrible in their own right and like with octavia and her dad, fizz forgave him too quickly. at the very least have it take two eps or so, it doesnt even have to be back to back.
A famous maker of plays once observed, “It is required of a story to make the protagonist suffer through coincidence, but awful for coincidence to get them out of trouble.” Other wise no conflict will occur.
4:05-4:25 Omg yeah, I was feeling the exact same way about Blitzo tbh! Remember when Blitzo could act like a chaotic jack-ass (with nice/caring moments too) and but heads with Moxxie who the voice of reason? Ever since Truthseekers there’s been way less scenes like that now (they’re just all friendly I don’t mind it sometimes but still they barely fight anymore, even when technically Blitzo still acts like a creep stalking M&M that didn’t change) and the only times Blitzos a real jerk anymore, everyone he’s against coincidentally all happen to be jerks who deserve it (like the mother in Western Energy). Sorry but that’s just my opinion 🤷♀️
I agree with what you said, but I believe as time goes on, as much as how you miss the old Blitz, I don't think Blitz having character development isn't a problem here. When he and Stolas got ridiculed in Ozzie's for reasons for being a fucked up couple, Blitz was breaking down in tears, especially when he saw his mom on the phone. I do think the characters who were flanderized were Loona, Stolas, and M&M because in ep 8, Loona showed that she cared for Blitz and the end of the episode but then she went back from being a bitch, M&M still act the same except Moxxie is still being used as a punching bag and that Viv and her team like making him insecure all over again, and Millie is just used as a plot device instead of a character. That still hasn't change and I do really like her, I just wish people who KNOWS how to write (I'm looking at you, Viv) write her actually doing something instead of just being a badass and being Moxxie's wife all the time. THey could tackle on her anger issues she has and how it affects Moxxie and everyone else. I'm up for it. And the very last person to talk about... Stolas Now, the scene where Stolas and Stella were getting a divorce is still powerful, but looking back to it, I think the scene could've done a bit better, because now that I think about it, now Stella can still be a bitch and a villain, but Stolas should admit what he did was fucked up and he should've broken up with her way before he cheated on her. Cheating is a sin and shouldn't be justified and that Stolas said that he deserves to be ridiculedat Ozzie's, which is why overtime he knows he's not perfect, but still is a caring person who loves his own daughter and that he needs time for himself. He could've also said "WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU WHEN OCTAVIA NEEDED YOU?!" because we haven't seen Octavia and Stella interact and during the flashback, when Octavia is crying, Stella didn't want to deal with her and has Stolas to do it. Or it could be the other way around also when she said that she doesn't give a damn about Octavia and that she is just being used for status. So, now that I rewatched it considering I still love the show, it kinda feels a little bit rushed to me. In my opinion, it could've made everyone still have sympathy for him and people will also realized it still doesn't excuse him for cheating on Stella.
I would actually kinda disagree with some of your rant at the end. The thing is that this show is somewhat good at the concept of showing over telling. The subtle little hints in between the words that draw the scenes together. The tones of voices, the body language.... The things you just can't explain with dialogue alone. I think the worldbuilding is good. It may not be the best, but it doesn't really need to be. I personally quite liked how they made the backstory. It showed things from fizzarolli's perspective and explained why he held a grudge. They also explained why it was so easy for him to forgive blitzo. He realized that the fire wasn't blitzo's fault so there was no reason to be angry.... At least, that's what I understood....
So... yeah. In Western Energy, that's when I got to where you are with this show. Just... no real expectations for it. Even though I do consider myself a fan of the show, I'm also an aspiring writer and director working on an animated show of my very own. And this show... it's just not as good as I wish it could've been. I'm hoping Hazbin Hotel is better because I love that concept so much. Of the princess of Hell wanting to redeem sinners to send them to heaven. It has so much potential. I just don't want the show to be handled the same way HB is being handled with its story.
the show doesnt blame blitz, he blame himself. the writing never indicates that blitz is at fault, other characters do, more importantly he does too. hes drowning in guilt and that really puts his character into perspective,
Still it doesn't make sense that everyone say it's his fault. Nobody saw him pushing the guy. Even if what you said it's exactly what the writers wanted to imply, the problem is that it doesn't make sense that other characters say it's Blitzo fault.
@@krabkrabby Well, we didn't really see Barbie Wire's perspective... But It makes total sense for Fizz to be mad at Blitzo. The flashback shows that what he saw was Blitzo side-eye'ing him during his birthday after Buckzo gave him a card, and then he saw Blitzo looking at him as he was burning and then running away. From Fizz's point of view, it looked like his best friend hurt him on purpose because he was jealous. (Which is literally stated in the episode, btw)
he literally explained this argument in this very video lmao If literally EVERYONE in the show believes it is blitz' fault, it IS blitz' fault. that's simply how writing works, if there's nothing (in the SCRIPT, not visually) that contradicts the idea that it's blitz' fault, then that's the show essentially saying that it is blitz' fault, and anything you try to come up with to argue against it is your personal interpretation and therefore isn't reliable as an explanation.
To bring up the part about Brandon being wasted. Brandon rogers isn’t as shallow as just offensive humor. He’s made several series that delve deeper into his characters and express more emotions asides humor. I mean look at Bryce or British series. Those are very recent and came out around the same time as these episodes. I feel like blitz perfectly captures both of these aspects, and I do agree it’s been leaning more to the emotional side. Blitz is a broken man masked with humor. As the series has gone on, that mask has come off more and more. Brandon’s characters are extremely like that, introduced as just part of a sketch, have been shown to be so much more. There isn’t any better choice then Brandon honestly
I'm being 100% honest here, one of my favorite things when an episode releases is RandomGameCritic's videos, I feel like he's a really underrated creator. Even if I'm a bit late to this video since timezones and stuff I still want to leave this comment to show my appreciation.
I mean from fizz perspective all he saw was blitzo looking angry at him and the fire just started getting out of control, maybe at first he didn't believe it was his fault. Then they brought up that fizz thought blitzo never came to see him, but he actually tried was pushed away. That probably cemented his doubt in their friendship. Barbie was probably told this as well, and didn't even try to hear him out. who told them this? who knows. I just wanted to share thoughts. I don't mean to attempt to fill in gaps, i just love taking it a smidge further like a soap opera.
12:16 He first mouths "fizz" In this scene like asking someone for help And right after that he mouths "mom" And runs towards her tent (probably) which I later hinted on again with "I lost something important in that fire too" (Idk the exact words) meaning he didn't want to leave fizz but his priorities were on his own mother which he obviously couldn't save. And yes I know the show should have told us so more clearly but oh well, it's got dedicated fans who over analyze everything for that Edit: nvm you saw it too
A problem I have with a lot of their Blitzo centered stuff is that they want us to think Blitzo's at fault for unknown things, then when we do find out / know said things, it doesn't even really feel like his fault?? This is probably the best example, but I've noticed it in other plot points too. I wish they'd either follow through on Blitzo's past actions being bad, or show how from his perspective, he wasn't trying to do anything that bad. Idk, maybe to some all of his actions have seemed bad enough to warrant character's responses, but to me, it really doesn't feel that horrible, especially for hell's standards.
I think the backstory scene was nothing for you because you probably looked into the series too much- For me, on my first viewing, it actually felt dramatic, learning of how Blizto lost his home, his best friend, and everything. And I just know the surface level lore, as well as some opinions from my friends that makes the story work. Not hating tho! Just giving my thoughts.
i didnt rly understand ur point abt "unrealistic expectations".. i agree that a lot of fans should manage their expectations, however, ozzie's changed the characters' dynamic completely and to have the next episode just reset everything and not even mention it in dialogue but in 2 SECONDS through text ??? i dont think im expecting too much. i only expect it to be at the very least mentioned. the outcome, however, is what i would reccommend to manage your expectations. it's basic storytelling. this show isnt like spongebob where nothing matters.
I'm surprised you didn't mention how the show brought back a villian other than Striker or Verosika back after hinting at it. Like the show actually has a bit of continuity now with Crimson.
In an older version of my script, I actually talked for a little bit about how you could have completely skipped _Exes and Ooh_ and not missed a single thing. _Oops_ never establishes or even hints at Crimson having any sort of history with Blitzo. The only thing that their history does is KINDA serve as a "get out of jail free" card for Crimson never even explaining why he even captured Blitzo at all. Hell, when Crimson yells at his guards to "get them," that's the only time in the entire episode that he acknowledges that Blitzo even exists. So... I was GOING to talk about Crimson being brought back as a returning character, but I was going to use it as an example of how this show once again does not capitalize on the relationships from previous episodes because sometimes they simply aren't taken into account.
@@RandomGameCritic And I've also heard that aside from Striker talking about his last job, nobody in the episode acknowledges Stolas's stay in the hospital. Do these characters have the memory of goldfish?
Okay, I know it's hardly the biggest point of contention with this episode... But here's my two-cents on the coffee gag. It's literally just nonsense humour. Like, I didn't even notice it on my first watchthrough, but yeah, he just straight-up pours the coffee into a cup for no reason and takes the kettle. I think that's fucking hilarious. A real goofy moment. If you don't see it that way... I'm sad you cannot feel the same potent elation I gain from this divine silliness.
I definitely agree about this being among the best of Season 2 (I like the Circus a tad better), probably because Adam didn't write it, Viv did. If Viv writes more of the episodes, Helluva can improve. I do agree about the backstory being handled somewhat badly, given how quick it was and how it almost felt like an afterthought in some ways. The retconned Stolitz backstory got half an episode but the backstory that was supposedly intended from the start not only gets much less focus than the Stolitz backstory Viv threw together because she liked art in her server (as cute as The Circus was), but less screentime than Loopty's flashback? I would have felt a bit more okay with the backstory if there was indication within the show itself they had been planning that as Blitzo's backstory for a while. If this really was supposed to be a big traumatic event for Blitzo that explains all his asshole behavior and every mystery the show was dangling save for why Versoika hates Blitzo, there would have been an indication prior. He actually would have had some reaction to the fire in the human realm before remembering human fire can't hurt him (or maybe Moxxie reminds him). And he most _definitely_ would have had a reaction to Robo Fizz burning surrounded by hellfire at Loo Loo Land. But he had no such reaction. Also, I disagree about you "setting the bar too high". Basic storytelling, like setting up one thing and addressing it, or having a scene that has impact continue to feel impactful. Is not "setting the bar too high". Not for anyone who has a basic grasp of good storytelling. Don't lower basic story standards just because Helluva refuses to meet them.
If the implication that Blitzo's mom died in the fire ends up being true, then I find it odd that the majority of the episode didn't focus on the flashback. My assumption was that Blitzo's burnt bridges were because of a general pattern of behavior, while the latest episode seems to point to most of them being the result of one incident. If that does end up being the case, then I think it's an odd choice to parcel out the explanation instead of giving us the full picture from the start. Also, well said about basic expectations. Some fans do act like it's wrong to have standards, or act like Helluva Boss is somehow a show that doesn't want to be taken seriously, despite the plethora of drama it indulges in.
I feel that helluva should be like those cartoons like regular show and teen titains where most of the episodes should be some random tomfoolery and 2 back to back important ,serious episodes with an actual plot (Sorry if i worded that poorly) Also trash cran 1:05
Yeah if you watch this show and aren’t deep into the lore, it will be hard to understand, like why can’t loona read the magic book in the weird light meaning they can’t go anywhere but when Octavia uses it she just says “take me to the star” an she ends up in LA ( now that I’m wondering this why didn’t the book just take her to space) also in loo loo land why is stolas acting so vulnerable around Stella after (to my knowledge) literally like an hour ago he just announced there divorce with no care in the world. Actually viv did make a tweet about this and while it does make sense they should’ve at-least imply it in the show but they didn’t
As a fan of the show, i agree that this show in itself isn't really made to be clear to outsiders. But i think that it's not really THAT much of a sin when the super passionate fandom you mentioned does so much to help explain how everything comes together. Like, the show would be able to do a LOT less if it couldn't trust loyal fans to open everything that it says and show the audience how it ticks. Also, i have to say i fundamentally disagree with you on the blitzø part. You start out being impressed by his outer layers, and then the more you get to know him, you can be impressed by how that facade works in relation to his fears, traumas and insecurities. I see nothing wrong with that.
Thing is, a good show should not force the fanatics, Twitter posts, or things outside the show in order to understand the world and characters of said show. Gravity Falls for instance has the ciphers and Journal 3, but someone can enjoy and understand the show just as much whether they're a casual watcher or a die-hard superfan. That's how a good show should be written, and Helluva Boss doesn't clear that bar of basic writing.
@@RavenStarMedia I mean, it seems to be working, doesn't it? I enjoy my time in this fandom, and it seems to me that a lot of other people do too. So if you need people to do some of the work for themselves, and they do, and the fandom is happy, what makes it "bad writing"? If the show does not explain certain parts of the narrative itself, and instead attracts the kind of fandom that will do it for them, where is the failure?
@@tamarbeker1701 Because the failure is in creating a cohesive world. Helluva tends to not flesh out the world very well to the point fans have to scramble to fill in the blanks with their own headcanons. The world doesn't have a lot of depth because the writers created this world that clearly had a lot of thought and measured consistency put into it-much of the supposed depth that exists is people inserting their own headcanons and theories into their understanding of the show, while the writers don't bother to actually build a consistent world. Fans having theories about the setting or characters that engage with the fandom is fine. Every fandom has those. The issue is that unlike something like Avatar, Helluva doesn't have pre-established rules of the setting, or even how certain characters act, that are conveyed properly in the show itself. A show should be able to have a world and characters that are understood, fleshed out, and clear to the audience whether you've seen only a couple episodes or you're a hardcore fan who watches every episode and delved into all the codes and behind-the-scenes stuff that you can. Amphibia does this. Gravity Falls does this. Helluva Boss does not. Helluva Boss, like RandomCartoonCritic said, is written only for the fans, and no one else.
@@tamarbeker1701 I think your experience is too limited. I've seen plenty of people criticize the show for not putting important information in the actual episodes, and that's something that either prevents people from becoming fans of the show or being as invested as they could be. I also find it unlikely that anyone watches the show _just_ because they get to look up information outside of the show.
Well thank you for reminding me that Loopty Goopty exists. …now I’m a bit more disappointed at the lack of hitman centered episodes in the series about imps running a hitman business.
My issue was also with the backstory. In Loo Loo Land Blitz essentially reprises the events of that night. He sets a circus on fire on accident and causes a version os Fizz to burn. Yet how does he act? Like he’s in a big game. He even gets annoyed robot Fizz DOESNT die in the fire. This doesn’t line up with the flashback at all.
I don't think this show is perfect, but I think that people who are trying to compare the level of chemistry between Fizz and asmodeus to stolas and Blitz are missing the point. Fizz and asmodeus are meant to be foils to the main couple. They are meant to represent healthy love in a world where that's not encouraged, and Fizz in particular is meant to represent a good person who finally managed to find somebody who didn't take advantage of or dismiss his good-nature. Fizz is everything that Blitz is not; he had the courage to make good progress on his psychological issues before Blitz came along to help him complete that work, whereas Blitz is still stuck. He is comfortable with himself and his flaws when Blitz is not. He is in a pretty healthy relationship whereas what Blitz and stolas have is currently toxic. Fizz plays an important role in the story both by contrasting Blitz and showing both by direct example and character mirroring that Blitz can overcome his issues. Asmodeus is a mirror to stolas to a lesser degree, mainly in terms of confidence and honesty. Asmodeus is completely comfortable in his work and willing to be honest with fizz. Stolas hates his job and is ashamed of his anxious attachment Style, and things that hiding it from Blitz will somehow fix it. Most importantly, as long as Fizz and asmodeus are together, the many, many reasons that Blitz and stolas have for not working on themselves or their relationship don't really hold water. The problems of these characters are so relatable that there is a danger of sympathizing too much and failing to acknowledge how toxic the relationship is. As long as asmodeus and Fitz are there, the audience can't get comfortable with how Blitz and stolas relationship operates. There is always a better example. There is no excuse for stolas and Blitz oh, because the relationship between Fizz and asmodeus is one that still has minor issues, but is between two people who have put the work in for themselves and each other. Moxie and Millie definitely need more development, but I think it's important that it's there. It shows that even two of the most good-hearted characters in the show can be battling codependent Tendencies, because he'll is not a conducive environment for healing or self-improvement. Despite their best efforts, they are still a product of the environment that they grew up in.
10:59: The problem you have here is the problem ive been having with stolitz's relationship this season, and its exactly the same thing!! Like, those text messages, for example, where its framed as blitzo not caring and being a dick, when the whole conversation stolas is being weird and ''oh its ok if you dont want to i dont care its fine'', its a wall of text that says NOTHING and clearly both of them dont know how to communicate, yet the show makes you think ''damn, blitzo you are an asshole omgg poor stolas''. Cause if you read into it, yes, the messages are well made and make sense and all the framing for that section is completely in stolas' perspective. But those arent real people with complex feelings, those are characters from a show and the writters are failing to make their audience understand that. Oh i fucking hate stolitz i could write my own wall of text about everything i dislike of them in s2 while they were my faves in s1..... sorta. I liked this episode tho, i like fizzarolli, im more interested in him than in half the cast--
You are actually supposed to notice that Blitz hates himself and is holding walls up. Everyone is taking it as Blitz is a dick because they don't understand trauma brain.
@@sandracarnegie2871yes, if you start reading texts that are shown 5 seconds in the scene where stolas starts crying and a flower petal falls, people are dumb as hell but the show isnt doing the best job at explaining to people something that they explained so easily and clearly in the first season. Helluva boss fans are illiterate and all, but you cant deny how the show is trying to stop people from remembering everything that made Stola's be as toxic as blitzo is to make stolitz be a reasonable ship, and ive felt this since this season started. Everyone understands why blitzo is how he is (at least i hope so), but he is still being portrayed as the bad one in the relationship, while stolas is being portrayed as the victim of blitzo's problems who hasnt done anything that made blitzo feel wronged!!
@@nuggetsplace8273Yes, that's my point. They clearly simp for Stolas and want to portray Blitz as the bad one, but they're not able to see how toxic Stolas is. He's the king of the uwu and a Gary Stu, and also he doesn't give a heck about Blitzo. He bought his body using his book instead of money (basically he's exactly like his father), he never gives a heck about Blitz not being happy with that, he constantly think to sex and nothing else (he never asked to Blitz to have a date) he was OK to flirt with Blitz in front of the imp population, but he was embarrassed and basically refused Blitzo in front of nobles. Then he tried to act like nothing happened. The show is clearly written to create cringy drama and Vivziepop desperately wants to convince the public that Stolas is a poor defendless satanic demon that only wants love 🥺🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Everything is soooooo stupid. I just hope so bad that Alastor will be able to prove his points that hell is full of trash, because he's my last hope rn. 😂
@@krabkrabby OH THEN WE AGREE okok great. Vivziepop clearly wants to convince us that the rich royalty bird who manipulated blitzo into giving him sexual pleasure cause if he declined, he had no job anymore. Sure they are cute, and sometimes blitzo is insanely toxic cause his mind is a shithole i do not wanna be near, but at the end of the days blitzo will never stop being a victim as much as stolas is made out to be
I feel like this show has stopped being what it wanted to be since it was revealed that Stolas had actual feelings for Blitzø. This show had such a fun premise and would make it stand out against Hazbin hotel since Helluva was supposed to be episodic rather than have a long ongoing story line and I wish it could’ve stayed that way but it feels like the creative team cares too much about what fans wanna see rather than what they planned out that now it’s just “oh the fans seem to like this part. Let’s add it into the show” which is why now it’s almost just basically the Blitzø and Stolas show because every fan seems obsessed with them as a couple
Personally, I never had major expectations for this show aside from, "it's going to do it's own thing", and leave it at that. You could argue that that is a problem, it doesn't know what it wants to be. There is some merit to that, but it's not something I fully agree with. I watch the show to see the characters I enjoy, to see conflicts arise, situations be resolved, and to be entertained. I don't see the issues people have with this show, at the very least, I don't see as many, so I don't feel the need to disect the show like others do. This is not intended to be an insult to anyone who critiques the show, I apologize if it came across that way. I wanted to make this comment because the episode came out on the day of my Grandfather's funeral, and it was a needed pick-me-up, so it has a special place in my mind. So, this will likely be the one time I make a comment here. Have your own opinions about the show, I believe it's grown to be better than it would be if it were episodic. Most importantly, I wish anyone who reads this a nice day.
Personally, i do see the fire thing as blitzos fault. If he hadnt had pushed the person holding the birthday cake than no one would have gotten hurt. I understand it was an accident, but that doesn't downplay the pain it caused. Its like car accidents. Thats my opinion though, overall I find that your analysis is constructive, and makes me think about things in a different way than i did initially
okay since theres a whole 15 minutes VIDEO on this im only doing the first minute. for most of it the sum is just the rush to get it out, also mistakes happen. remember this isnt some netflix animated show with millions or thousands of workers making it. this is just a small team that viv has with her to create something. plus these minor mistakes dont even really become noticed when you watch it the first, second, or even third time! (for what I know) and it doesnt really matter if he poured something he didnt drink out of (lol) now about the higher ranks dating imps, they dont really want others to know because as long as nobody with a higher rank then them calls them out for it, if they never talk about it then nobody else lower or on the same rank as them can point it out because of fear if they did so. (we can see proof of this in ozzies episode and episode eight.) Also another thing, millie and moxxies relationship is just as good as asmodeus and fizz's. (imo) and it shows how much they love each other and would do anything for each other. and the reason stolitz doesnt have that is because they dont know how to communicate and this is a problem that gives us the drama, tension, and suspense we need to want to keep watching. we want to continue so we can find out what happens and if it works out. now the reason he thinks its his fault is because he left fizz to die and caused the horses to seem alarmed. fizz thinks its blitz' fault because he ran away from fizz while he was burning instead of trying to help.
theres some parts i agree with here and some i dont Your point about the good relationship writing being "wasted" on fizz and asmodeus would make sense if fizz wasnt coming back, but the next episode is a fizz episode and only time will tell to see how much of a recurring character he will be. I sort of agree with your point about blitzo being in the right, but i dont feel that they ever really said he was directly in the wrong, it came off that way from both parties, blitzo started a small fire and next thing he knew, the whole circus was burning down, and fizz litterally watched blitzo run away so obviously he thought he was wrong another thing on the circus scene, and actually a gripe this time. The storyboard for the scene did show blitzo saying "mom" in that scene before running, its annoying that this patreon only (atleast i think its patreon only) secret is here, it would be better if they had a faint sound of their words, or even not faint at all, so you can clearly tell what he is saying and why it doesnt look like he was just a horrible person in that scene i also just dont really understand why you put the 14:32 comment there, seems like a fairly normal comment of someone to make about an opinon they had that they later changed, i know you put that in your top comment but i dont really understand the original intention. If i think of any other things i have a strong enough opinion to mention here but this is the main things i thought about, sorry if im sounding hostile or anything, im trying to grow past listening to a youtube video and going "wow hes right" for no reason and have that shape my opinion, just trying to start thinking for myself is all
4:09 Shows are supposes to be interesting just because a comedic voice actor is being serious for once doesn't make it boring. (No hate here just clearing things up)
I'm not gonna try and excuse the batshit pacing of the flashback, but I do feel that it leaves things a lot more open-ended than you're giving it credit for. I'll comment on the whole "it wasn't really Blitzo's fault" thing- Uh... Yeah, no. It was. Not in the traditional sense, though. See, it was indeed a freak accident that he *technically* caused, but that's not necessarily why the other characters- and Blitzo himself- feel the need to blame him so heavily. The way I see it, because Blitzo ended up causing the fire as a result of a brash outburst stemming from his inability to truly open up to other people (which has been his major character flaw from the very start), Blitzo intentionally decided to shoulder the majority of the blame. His self-hatred is simply that strong. There's subtext, y'know? Barbie Wire's reasons for hating Blitzo are still rather dubious, too. Unlike Fizz, who mostly just misunderstood what really happened that night. I guess it's possible that Barbie hates Blitzo due to sharing Fizz's initial perspective, but that doesn't seem like a very interesting route to take her character. In fact, it's implied that she hates him for... Multiple things he's done. They have a history, and we'll just have to wait for more context on that.
11:00 My daughter pointed out that there are green flames on the candles. Why didn’t they use earth fire? So, I started thinking…. What if Mammon set it up? We know that Fizz went to Mammon afterwards, so what if Mammon saw Fizz and wanted to play savior and Blitzø was a catalyst? I mean, I’m sure that he didn’t know Blitzø was going to bump into the cake holder, but at the same time, it was like it was a setup, hoping something would inevitable happen so that the circus would burn and he would get the “best: attraction for his opening of Loo Loo Land, Fizz? It just turned out better than he had hoped. Just a theory, but I guess we won’t know until later in the show.
The episode is literally 30 minutes long. Analyzing it all will take quite a bit more time than usual, so we should be patient. My guesstimate would be Late November, but I'm just a random commenter, so take that with a massive grain of salt.
5:10 I am black, if you are also black at one point you have had this convo. You could be Blitzo or Fizz or you might even be Striker. But at some point you had this convo. I lowkey liked seeing this idk why but it hit at the right spot cause Ik that feeling, me being the Fizz in thus convo with my friend about the person who is now his gf.
Ok so I barely have the energy to care about Helluva Boss, much less these sins videos but pushing that aside, why does Fizz and Ozzie having a good dynamic/relationship warrant 5 sins? Isn't that a good thing?
100% agree with you on the not feeling more for the backstory reveal. I thought the pov from Fizzerolli, combined with the brilliant voice acting and the music for this scene, was good! But I still wasn't overly gripped by the scene, it just kinda happened and then I moved on with the rest of the episode. I think another thing that could have made this scene a better and more emotionally impactful, was if we had more time with Fizz and Blitz interacting, because up until this episode, the only time we've seen Blitz and Fizzerolli (not counting robo fizz cuz he's a robot with no actual backstory with Blitz, he's just designed after a character who does) interact was during the song in Ozzie's twice for maybe 8-10 seconds, and the only line of dialogue that was exchanged between them was from Fizzerolli. Blitz never gets a chance to say anything back to him because it instantly cuts to Verosika and then on the second occasion to Stolas. And then the second time was in The Circus - the flashback part (Granted The Circus episode does set up the "What happened to them?" theme and confirms that all the white scars on Fizz's face are in fact scars since his skin as a kid was red like other imps. But again this was a small interaction in an otherwise Blitz and Stolas related episode) It's the same sort of issue you brought up in your video for the Loo Loo Land episode. The show introduced us to Octavia, gave us one flashback of her and Stolas having a wholesome moment, didn't convey the message that Octavia was at all uncomfortable or genuinely upset just moody, and then gave us an ending which - on paper the scene itself it great, the dialogue is wonderful - for me wasn't emotionally impactful cuz we had only just met Octavia I know a lot of fans where probably super hyped to finally have this mystery solved, but aside from that photo on Blitz's phone at the end of Ozzie's and that scene of kid Fizz and Bliz interacting in the circus episode I don't think there was a great deal of emotional build up for the backstory scene. Like with the Loo Loo Land ending, on paper I think the scene is fine: Fizz's pov I think was the better part for me - but otherwise this scene just felt like it kind of happened since we've had so little interactions with these two in the show outside of the interactions in Ozzie's (which where seconds long) and the child scene in the circus I've gotten Helluva fans upset with me for making a post after the Exes and Oohs episode so to be on the safe side, this isn't me trying to make an attack I'm just trying to give a constructive opinion on an episode of a series which is high quality in it's animation, music, backgrounds and voice acting, but storywise feels lacking to me
this is like somebody whos favorite transformers movie is The Last Knight, criticize Bumblebee also, doesnt the class divide play a part in blitz and stolas's romance arc
I didn't even get that it was a gag. It registered as Fizz failing to pour some coffee for Ozzie in the mug and being 'quirky to drink from the pot himself' which was not funny to me. It's showing their morning routine which made me think Fizz has messed that up everyday, again not adding hilarity but annoyance.
Yes, them being immune to the episode one fire is canon. But i have a reasoning why this fire hurt them, its hell fire. Wordly fire doesnt hurt them, but obviously the fire in hell is different in some kinda way.
I always love your videos for a much deserved wake up call that always slaps my rose colores glasses away and allows me to see the obvious and glaring flaws I often overlook because of how much I love HB
I’m sorry, but I think the excuses of “well this show doesn’t take itself seriously” and “we set our expectations too high” are a little silly. If this show doesn’t take itself seriously, why should I care about Fizzaroli and Blitzø? Why should I care about Stolas getting tortured to death? And as for setting expectations too high, I really don’t think expecting the show to follow up on major plot points is unreasonable. Take the Stolas and Blitzø’s falling out in Ozzie’s for example. In fact, I think it would be unreasonable *not* to expect them to do it. I get what you’re saying, but if they’re going to put serious moments in their show, they really can’t just toss them aside without a second thought. Sorry this was so long.
0:07 I thought he was making the pot for Ozzie. 0:34 The episode does mention it again. Several times. Their totally unemotional bang sesh. Fizz worrying about people seeing Ozzie being openly affectionate towards him at the end of the episode. 3:14 That's why he's saying it here. It's exposition.
I knew that I should have mentioned the end of the episode... But the ending not only doesn't address the "hypocrisy" shown in the article, but it also firmly establishes that Ozzie "doesn't even care" if people find out anymore. Yes, you can argue that this only applies to witnesses that are directly on Asmodius' payroll, but I still feel like the show itself was sending a message.
@@RandomGameCritic It seemed to me that they're treating it like a celebrity having an affair. It's frowned upon, but there aren't really any consequences for it. I don't really see it as the show telling the fans that they "have no interest in ever talking about" this, especially since there were three separate scenes in this very episode dedicated exclusively to talking about it.
14:44 uum dude she explained that he drove 3 rings to wrath (I think) max HER credit card for horse riding lesson. Now if someone did this to you how would you feel ? Happy ??
1:42 well this sin has just been proved entirely false 5:14 so has this one normally i mostly agree with you in these videos but this one kinda sucked. first off, its not a problem that Blitzø, who is the fucking protagonist, has more depth than was originally expected. he would just be uninteresting at that point, which is exactly the criticism you leveled against him because Brandon Rodgers has running bits with this character that you happen to not like. second, Blizø and Stolas are SUPPOSED to be toxic. as for Millie and Moxxie not “showing that theyre in love”, they just have a different dynamic. theyre affectionate, but they also are more casual with each other. considering its implied that theyve been married for a bit now, thats to be expected. and Ozzie and Fizz are supposed to show what Stolas and Blitzø should be, so of course theyre the best couple in the show. and none of this is me “reading into the show,” its just what ive gathered from being a casual fan. I agree that Helluva has fallen off in season 2. personally, i feel like its starting to pick up again and this was just an off season, but i digress. however, it feels like people have begun to LOOK for the negatives and ignore the positives as a result of that. and it feels like thats a big problem in this video, especially with the just vitriolic anger in most of the sins.
I mostly love these videos (i'm so genuinely stuck in my autistic bubble that it's good for me to see an outsider's perspective on this show) but i have just one thing to say today It does bother me whenever I see anyone point out the Ozmodius scene in this episode where he talks about not forcing lust on to other people? like yes it's hell, hell is a bad place and people there do bad stuff, but the writers room is full of humans who are statistically far more likely to be affected by sexual harassment than by murder. And most people are, really. I honestly appreciate a show that actually does draw the line sometimes, because it's still important to be respectful to real human experiences, even in a show where you can excuse any bad deed by saying something about what someone else did. TL;DR: its not that deep but I'm delusional and will pretend that it is, in fact, that deep
I definitely agree with your criticisms towards this episode. Thought I'd respectfully put in my view. In terms of comedy, this episode was a real return to form, I laughed the most I've laughed since episode 6 of season 1. Look at This is probably my favourite song, it's literally a song about nothing yet also has hidden meanings. Where this episode falls short slightly is the backstory part of it, I agree. I do think the way Blitzo mouths Mom is heartbreaking, the fact we don't hear him and yet can see how afraid and horrified he is, 10/10 animation. Gotta give Brandon credit for his voice acting when he broke down in front of Fizz. I do wish we would have lingered a little bit more on Fizz and Blitzos relationship from the past, as in more flashbacks, would have probably nailed home the sense of betrayal from Fizz. I am a little disappointed that Striker has taken a dip in villain quality, but will say seeing him lose it and become desperate shows potential. I think this episode benefitted from not having Moxxie and Millie in it, they are usually sub-plot characters, and it can take away from the quality. Though I do really enjoy them in main plots. I think my biggest gripe is the line where Fizz and Blitzo realise that they were stopped from seeing each other when Fizz was in hospital, the simple oh means absolutely nothing. Who stopped them? It could have been Blitzos father but we have no real way of knowing. Also why? Fizz couldn't perform anyways until he recovered, so why keep them apart? These are all nitpicks though. This is the best episode of Season 2 and probably my third favourite episode before Truth Seekers and Ozzie's!
Those multiple objects in one frame to make fast motion as you all may know, are smears, made to simulate live action motion blurs, the reason they look jagged and weird as only two frames is because of the repetition and lack of bounciness, but I get it, they did want some real fast movement, what I'd do is if some of those frames interchangeably changed with alts they'd look a bit better, like instead of "ABABABAB" we had "ABACABAC" PS: this is not a jab at the show's animation quality, it's pretty good, just explaining in case some folks were also wondering why it felt off
I think one of the things I didn't like about this episode is how it disregards the events of Western Energy. We hear from Striker that this episode took place about a week after Stolas' encounter with Striker with that moment being shown as a really important and detrimental part of the story. Yet in Oops that entire episode is sort of pushed to the side and only mentioned in a very brief line which people might miss on their first viewing of the episode. Aside from that I think this is a really good episode.
Helluva Boss feels to me like it had 2 pitches 1: a comedy about I.M.P. going to earth and killing people. 2: a "rom-com drama" about the class struggle of Hell (plus showing off Viv's world building that wouldn't be seen in Hazbin Hotel.) Then Viv went "we'll do both In the same show." but they ran out of real ideas for I.M.P. and the "rom-com drama" was liked by fans more. which lead to I.M.P. episodes being bland and drama episodes lacking the world building needed to understand them without talking to fans and looking for background details. It will be interesting to see if and how they end the show (at least for a bit.) As they seem to be leaning all in on the DRAMA.
I think I remember her saying that this show is supposed to have four seasons, and like…..atp I really am interested to see how. This feels like a show with a very limited shelf life, especially with the quality declining so drastically and so quickly between seasons (with rare exceptions like this episode, which is the first one I’ve enjoyed probably since season two has started😭)
This guy triggers me but sure I’m about to sound like a nerd but he definitely does not know the lore and in my opinion, he can’t criticize it without that
A few things to note:
14:32 I hope I'm not coming off as hostile to this one random dude who left a comment on my video. I always find myself getting so frustrated with these channels that seem to exist for the sole purpose of sucking this show off and convincing as many people as they can that the show is actually more genius than the creators ever intended. HOWEVER, there's an equal argument to make that this guy (and others like him) are just looking at other peoples' opinions and realizing that the "flaws" they had in their heads might not actually be flaws at all and that there are other ways to appreciate the show that they hadn't noticed before. I guess it depends on who you ask. Maybe I'm being unfair again and I overstepped a little with this point.
10:23 I originally wanted to leave in the full clip of this scene because the lengthy romantic fireworks make the final joke so much funnier. BUT, I got hit with a content ID for the music and I lost the appeal, so I had to trim it down.
And now, here are all of the various different shows that I showed clips of over the course of this video, in order of appearance. All shows are on Crunchyroll, except where noted.
*Kaguya-sama: Love Is War*
I didn't actually play a clip of this one, but it was on one of the posters that I showed in that one frame and I had to give it a mention because this show has an incredible cast of characters and is the single funniest show that I have ever seen. Also, the dub is equally as good as the sub. Ian Sinclair's English narration alone might even make it better.
*Tomo-Chan Is a Girl*
The other anime that I showed a poster of but didn't show any clips of. Misuzu and Carol are infinitely more entertaining than the two lead characters. I didn't finish this one.
*Don't Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro*
This anime has one of the most misleading premieres of all time. Nagatoro is absolutely horrible to the main character in the first episode. HOWEVER, if you can just get through that first episode, she never acts that cruelly ever again, and the eventual chemistry that the two characters share is so cute and sweet that it's almost enough to distract you from the author's obvious humiliation fetish. I didn't get far into this one, but I've seen a ton of clips and I get why people like it.
*Komi Can't Communicate (Netflix)*
This show has a big tiddie classmate that wants Komi to treat her like a dog and an out of place yandere character that everybody universally despises. But if you can get past that, this is the ultimate feel good romantic comedy anime about a girl who struggles to communicate with people and the only guy in school who is actually able to understand her, help her, and support her. I really need to finish this show, definitely recommend it.
*My Dress-Up Darling*
I definitely recommend this one. If you don't live alone, I recommend watching it with headphones in an environment where other people can't sneak up on you watching it. It's a really raunchy show even by anime standards, but it's actually a REALLY good show if you can get past that. Also, Marin is best girl. No contest. It's not even close.
*The Last of Us (Max)*
I know that most of my viewers are cartoon nerds, but even you guys have heard of this show before. I don't need to tell you how good it is.
*Re:Zero - Starting Life in Another World From Zero*
One of the most well constructed, written, and acted shows I've ever witnessed. This is a show that expects you to be able to understand context clues and piece things together. This series demands your undivided attention from start to finish. Also, it has such an incredible soundtrack that there was one song (Chain of Memories) that nearly made me cry for a character that I could not have possibly cared less about. HOWEVER, I personally didn't care that much for the show and actually thought that the second season was kinda bloated and boring. But I'm definitely in the minority, there. Like Pink Floyd's "The Wall," I can appreciate the work that went into it, but I personally thought it was a little boring and I'm probably not going to revisit it any time soon.
*ODDTAXI*
No, this isn't just some furry anime. In fact, out of all the shows that I've mentioned so far, this is the one that I recommend the most. It's a very plot heavy show that isn't filled with constant action or jokes, but it's only 13 episodes long and very hard to forget.
My man’s got some good taste
Love seeing some appreciation for oddtaxi
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Oh, they don't....
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Bottomline, if you have to do _this_ much for a scene, it kinda failed.
In regards to 14:32, I do see where you're coming from. I think you're correct on both counts. I think some people do give genuine thought to someone else's perspective and decide that they make a good point. But I also think that there are people who either have parasocial feelings towards a particular UA-camr and will mindlessly parrot what they say or they're easily influenced so they won't question any halfway convincing argument.
In general I think some people don't appreciate that just because a fan theory makes sense, that doesn't mean it's true. For example, people have noted that Blitzo's line in "Western Energy" "He can get hurt?" doesn't make sense, because Blitzo already knew that there are weapons that can hurt or even kill demons of Stolas's status. Several people have argued that while Blitzo may have logically knew that Stolas could get hurt, the fact that he's not invulnerable may not have felt truly "real" to him until he saw the results himself. And I think that's a perfectly sensible explanation. At the same time, I still think the way they presented that scene was weird, and given all of the show's other inconsistencies I can't fully discount the possibility that the writers just forgot that Blitzo was already aware of what angelic weaponry could do.
I always assumed that Blitzo was supposedly at fault because I just thought the birthday fire spread so far that all the tents caught fire and the horses didn’t play a major role
The timeline from Blitzo's perspective is:
Blitzo knocks over a single birthday cake > Horses get spooked and start running around everywhere > Every single tent is now on fire > Fireworks go off
If a few birthday candles are what was responsible for every single tent going up in flames in a matter of minutes, then the person responsible for this fire is whoever decided that these birthday candles were safe and legal. Either that, or Blitzo started a tiny fire that everyone could have easily evacuated from and then the horses made everything turn into an out-of-control inferno.
@@RandomGameCritic who should be put to blame is whoever made these tents to be so flammable, if just a few candles can destroy an entire, giant effing circus (like, honestly lol)
I didn't even know that the horses had fire on em I just thought it was a type of design!!!
@@DuckyDoesSmth9517not only that but whoever had the horses inside the tent when they should've been outside far away from the circus
@@RandomGameCritic And yet he somehow still loves horses 🥰
Yeah I agree, the only major gripe I had with this episode was the fact that Blitzo’s/Fizz’s backstory was rushed through way too fast to the point where it couldn’t really get any emotional impact. I feel like if they took their time, explained things more clearer, and wrote the scene a little bit better, it could’ve been one of if not the most emotional impactful moments from the entire show.
i feel like that wouldnt be the case if the episode wasnt already long, maybe cutting the song a bit to add more time to the backstory would be nice
I actually think that was deliberate so that they can return to it at a later time. All we got here is how that night affected Fizz. I'm expecting there will be a flashback sequence with Barbie Wire as well, where she accuses Blitz of ruining everything. Possibly angled so that she sees him shove the cake holder but can't see the letter in his hand.
Ozzie was okay with the fact that Stolas cheated because it’s what lust is about, s*x because it’s good. But the fact the hells standard says that r**e is really bad because it’s not about lust it’s about force and not good s*x. Also I love your content this is my nitpick of your nitpick. Lmao
Kinda wierd that hell has a standard at all tbth. When you think of hell I think the main thing you think of IS no standard for morality. Then again, this is a tv show and hell can't just be a pit of nothing but suffering and characters gotta be a little likable so concessions have to be made in areas like that to facilitate that
@@AManOnline. i think the difference for standards in hell is the fact that people are born and raised here, and therefore there will be standards for actual hell residents vs sinners who just popped in existence in one ring so they can live there miserably for all eternity because they were awful pre-death
Viv sucks at world building let's leave it at that
It doesn't suck if we just acknowledge that this world is nothing more than an artist's playground that is goofy and inconsistent and not meant to be endlessly dissected and analyzed. This is why I repeatedly tell people to stop taking this show so seriously. All it does is make the whole experience negative and miserable.
It's the negative side of lust, rxpe is still for a lustful purpose, manipulation ties with lust too.
To explain the hellfire thing, they quite literally did say “we’re not effected by YOUR fire,” Heavily implying that they won’t be hurt by fire from EARTH. So while yes, it’s kinda ironic that the incident was caused by a fire when Blitzø didn’t get burned by fire in episode one, but the difference is the fact in Blitzø’s backstory it is hell fire rather than normal, so it does kinda make sense
Edit: so it turns out I misunderstood the situation and thought he just forgot how hell fire worked, so I thought I should remind him, so just kinda ignore what I said
Here’s the thing: if we’re going that in depth with the world building, then that just raises a bunch of other questions.
Chief among them is this: WHY ARE IMPS USING HELLFIRE TO LIGHT CAKE CANDLES?
If they’re immune to normal fire, why not not use that instead? It’s a contrivance one way or another.
@@benjaminfricke4791 good point, but maybe it’s for the same reasons we use normal fire on our cakes, even if it could burn us, also if they managed to get normal fire, how exactly? It’s not like Blitzø’s family is rich, the reason Blitzø has gotten to earth was due to the book, and that was literally years after the fact, unless a sinner or demon somehow snuck a normal lighter into hell, how would they get normal fire?
@@DiamondThing A lil addition to add, I don't think there IS normal fire there, Since if you look at all of the scenes where fire is involved, it's the green hellfire. Even in the episode when Striker blew up, hellfire showed up.
Hellfire is the default in Hell.
@@debbiesworldofcreativity1108 that’s something I forgot to mention, but I would’ve included it if I remembered to, and it makes sense, if earth doesn’t have hell fire, and hell has there same hell fire all throughout the rings, then why would they have normal fire?
I admittedly had to think about it for a second, but there are exceptions to all fire being hellfire in hell. The first thing that came to mind is Loona’s IMP lighter from “Seeing Stars,” which produces plain old orange fire.
There’s probably others, but I’ll leave that to you. I really don’t feel like searching through the entire show.
The coffee gag is funny Fizz poured it for himself but missed thr mug because he can't see it, then he ends up leaving the mug behind and taking the pot, again he can't see.
Well, they really botched the joke, then. If they wanted to do it well, they should have started by have the music comedically stop as soon as Fizz started spilling the coffee to show that it was an awkward mistake that wasn't intentional. Maybe they could have added in some sort of grumbling noises from Fizz while he keeps trying and failing to reposition the pot in order to pour it correctly. THEN he would just give up and grab the whole pot. It'd also be crucially important for them to remove the shot of the succubus on the way back because the final punchline would rely on Fizz chugging the pot _immediately_ after he gives up on pouring it into the cup.
That's how you make this joke actually land.
@@RandomGameCritic So, you're saying that you need the show to tell you that a gag is happening.
@@kfcroc18 no he's saying it needs to be executed better. When I first watched the episode I had no idea what happened so I rewinded it, saw what they were going for and even I didn't know why that happened. And then once RGC said it was the classic "coffee spill gag" I finally understand. But it still didn't land
@@INTERNECION101 I don't get how you two didn't get it the first time, I did I also got the backstory part too.
@@kfcroc18 my brother. I literally just said how I didn't get it the first time and RGC did as well. If something happens almost the exact same way twice to two different people, I feel like it would be kinda agreed that it's possible
This episode actually confirms my theory that Blitzo has PTSD from the fire!!! The fact that he completely runs away from a affection and cry seeing his mother on his phone! He can't stay in a relationship because he doesn't want to relive and be trigger of that trauma!Thats why he made the “o” in his name silent so he doesn't have to be reminded of it!
You're definitely reading too much into this stuff.
It’s a bit odd that he has fire ptsd but never reacted to when he was set on fire in the human realm
@@crem-crem4070 Or the fire in his office. Or the fire in Loo Loo Land.
If he had PTSD from the fire and that was something they were planning from the start, he actually would have had some reaction to the fire in the human realm before remembering human fire can't hurt him, and he _definitely_ would have had a reaction to burning Robo Fizz at Loo Loo Land. He did not.
@@saffronbaffron5829 I have been clinically diagnosed with shell shock and we had the exact same reactions to stuff
I think the missing part of the backstory was intentional, fizz remembered Blitzø leaving him there on purpose. But Blitzø remembered it as him trying to save his mom. It was supposed to show that they remembered it differently.
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Actually I think those horses are outside of the tent but the sky is covered by other tents, I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure they’re outside
Oh shit, you're right. I think my point still stands, but you're right.
@@RandomGameCriticI don’t think you’re a toxic fan for pointing out this problems with continuity and following up on previous events. I think you’re completely justified because we’re supposed to be invested in these characters and world, from Vivzie’s told us.
@@insectostrich4407 That's true. Viv told us that this show was super well thought out and detailed. Unfortunately, everybody believed her.
@@RandomGameCritic Speaking of, have you heard of the Hello Neighbor games? If so, could you do a video on their UA-cam show, Welcome To Raven Brooks, because it has similar problems to HB.
@@insectostrich4407 I'm not interested. Please stop asking.
Hold on. I adore the factory scene because it hammers home that Asmodeus isn't going to act like because he's the embodiment of lust he can treat his employees like cum dumpsters - he actually treats them better than expected. Fun place to work, too.
Otherwise, yeah, I appreciate the animation work on the show but not a lot else.
Wait, hold up - does Greed not have a grocery store? You mean Fizz has to buy milk from a gas station?!
A small detail I remember from the first episode is Blitz says “Yeah, sorry lady, YOUR fire doesn’t hurt us”. I just take that as a marker that regular fire is the kind demons are immune to, and this green fire is more demonic in nature and thus can hurt them.
Please look at the (current) top comment about the fire and read my response before I lose my shit again
@@RandomGameCritic not everyone browses through the comments, kind of being a prick there, dont want to be the speech police tho lmao
@@noobus.4615 Yeah you're right, sorry. I'm just sick of people bringing this fire thing up.
@@RandomGameCritic wait, is this directed at me or “aghost “?
@@eqWillibrium Uhh, everyone I guess. But mostly noobus.
Moxie and Millie don't have chemistry? Huh. Curious. How so?
I probably should have gone over this better, but I think that the way that Helluva Boss handles Moxxie and Millie's relationship is by repeatedly telling you that they're in love rather than making you feel it. In my opinion, the scene in the basement of "Harvest Moon Festival" was the only moment where they felt like real people in a real relationship. Everything else is just shipping fuel, shipping fuel, shipping fuel.
Dam I just realized, we barely know about this relationship
@@RandomGameCritic i really hope we get another millie episode, the other one was mostly just "moxxie is sometimes a prick" which was kind of obvious
@@RandomGameCritic I disagree. One of my favourite mox/mil scenes is when she rescues him in spring broken and then when she comes out of the water the first thing she asks is "Is Mox ok?" And how they see Blitz screwing up the objective because of his obsession with Loona's love life and they're just like "Ok, we'll do it." They work as a flawless team as a good couple should. I also love the harvest moon basement scene you said, and the third good one is Millie just losing her shit when she thinks Mox is lost. We have NEVER seen Millie lose her cool. Not until Mox is kidnapped. That shows the depth of her affection for him.
Honestly, Blitz and Stolas aren't supposed to be a good couple. They're SUPPOSED to be dysfunctional and bad for each other. That's the point, that's the entire point is for them to be terrible as a couple and POSSIBLY get better later on. As for Mox and Millie, they WERE a perfect couple with amazing chemistry. But fans complained too much and Viv SEEMS to have caved in to the complaints that they're too perfect and aren't interesting because of that. And honestly? Fuck those fans.
First of all... Viv may be a talented writer, but you can't take her word on anything. At one point, she said that Millie was intentionally underdeveloped because Helluva Boss was intended to be a male focused show and that Hazbin Hotel would be more female focused, which would be an incredibly boneheaded creative decision to make even if she didn't immediately pivot to a different excuse when people didn't buy that one.
Second, I don't think that Blitzo and Stolas are meant to be a bad couple. If that was what they were going for, they would have written the show that way.
It's weird how incredibly different our perceptions on that last point are. It's pretty plainly written that way to me, I don't see how it can be more obvious without being spelled out. As for the first part, I wasn't taking anything Viv said into account. I said it seemed that way. It was speculation on my part. @@RandomGameCritic
@JediMasterRevenantMADNESS yeah that was kind of a unrelated rant about Viv. I didn't read the first half of your comment well enough. But I really think that this show is trying to portray Blitzo x Stolas as a healthy couple that we're supposed to be rooting for.
@@RandomGameCritic I’m shocked you see it this way. For me personally watching the show, I feel the exact opposite, that they’re the most dysfunctional, unhealthy, trainwreck of a couple ever, that you hope eventually work because deep down they’re… decent people just can’t make it work. That’s the view I get that the show is trying to force. Heck, even when we finally got the backstory to their first get-together, Blitzø only stayed out of pure pity for being considered Stolas’ first ever friend.
It’s actually very interesting when people can get very different perspectives from the same piece of media
@@RandomGameCritic I'd personally say less "healthy couple we're supposed to be rooting for" and more "currently dysfunctional couple that they want you to root for and see turn healthy down the line", even if they are fumbling with the execution in some ways.
6:25 “What was Blitz supposed to do? Glue Fizzarolli back together!?”
YOU DID NOT THAT HAD ME DYING😭😭
Why the horses with FIRE manes get freaked out over a little fire.
😂😂
Because the drugs that the writers sniffed were probably bad. 😂
I think the main issue from Fizz’s perspective is that he saw Blitz looking upset and then suddenly the tent is on fire. There is a good chance Fizz didn’t even know about the horses. And that I’m pretty sure that Blitz lit that specific tent on fire and the horses did the rest.
I loved this episode, but I feel like the flashback could've taken up an entire diffenent episode. That way, they could’ve taken their time, exploring both Blitzo and Fizzarolli's feelings and perspectives during that moment. Something similar to The Circus.
I keep forgetting your from Wisconsin too and I was caught off guard when you mentioned Summerfest
Yep! I also have a couple friends who saw Imagine Dragons on one of the free stages a few weeks after they unexpectedly blew up. Apparently that show was very crowded.
@@RandomGameCritic Certified "Arcane season 2" moment
4:04 As much as i love this show i feel like the reason why the tone of the series has been so back and forth is because Brandon and Viv are playing tug of war of where they want the direction of the show to be
Like Bradon intended to write the show to be more light-hearted, chaotic, and episodic
Whereas Viv want the show to be more dramatic and leaning to the Stoliz nonsense.
And tbh this is kinda showing in the writing mostly in S2...
I think Brandon's writing is kinda bit better than Viv because when Viv does story telling on Helluva, it's a mess at times. I think Viv is better at writing for Hazbin because Helluva can be episodic while Hazbin can be a character focused show. I jsut hope Viv improves on Hazbin once the A24 show gets released since she got help from new writers that took her place.
Having Stolas remain in the hospital for some time is not a high bar. You're being waaay too kind. If Stolas was simply going to be back on his feet in the next episode what was the point of injuring him in the first place.
Unless they're trying to tell us that him being abandoned by Blizto is the reason that he's letting him go. They didn't make that clear though.
I had to think about this episode a lot following its release.
On the one hand, it’s one of the better episodes in and of itself (definitely the best of Season 2), but upon consideration, it’s not really lacking the flaws of its predecessors; the good stuff is just better than usual and the bad stuff is less egregious.
Like, there’s still tonal whiplash, the pacing is still off in a lot of places, the characterization is still painfully inconsistent, etc. In my honest opinion, I think this episode is almost exclusively carried by Fizzarolli (in a rarity among the cast) actually having compelling, and more importantly, *entertaining* dynamics with both Blitzø and Ozzie. Which is… not ideal, all things considered.
10:47 This point is just plain foolish in my opinion.
Firstly, saying "Everyone says the fire was Blitzo's fault" even though only one person has been confirmed to at least thought that Blitzo was responsible (Fizzarolli) and the other being mostly a vauge allusion with some assumption (Barbie) is an exaggeration.
Second, just because those two say it's his fault that's not the show saying it's his fault. The flashback shows both Fizzarolli and Blitzo's perspectives from the fire. Fizz saw Blitzo looking darkly at him from behind a tent curtain and then walk away only for a fire to errupt from that area and for him to be knocked into an explosion.
Afterwards we saw Blitzo's perspective after he screamed "It was an accident," and the visuals show that.
You say that "Obviously it was the horses" even though a major part of the flashback was Fizzarolli being injured in a huge fucking *explosion.* Even if the horses spread some of the fire it's clear that most of the damage was done by the fireworks going off.
To get back to the original point, the show was not trying to say it was all Blitzo's fault, it was trying to say that everyone assumed it was Blitzo's fault since nobody actually saw what happened. If your interpretation of the flashback was "it was Blitzo's fault" then you must've missed the point because Blitzo literally screams "It was an accident."
I don't mean any hate but to come to that conclusion even after the show shows the exact opposite is ridiculous.
Blitzo even said it's his fault is also because he hates himself, he was gonna be hard on himself but got cut off by Crimson's henchmen.
(Quoting Blitz) “There was so much going on” I honestly think thats the best way to describe this shows plot. It wants to have 2 dif story’s where we feel sorry for Blitz while also ashamed at what he did at the same time…but he did nothing wrong! 😂 (that short end of the stick Blitz keeps getting gets shorter every episode lol)
the show isnt blaming blitz for the whole fire thing, its from fizzarollis perspective the last thing he sees before the fire is blitz looking angry then the fire growing fizzarolli assumes that blitz planned the whole fire incident because he was jealous of fizzarolli and thats why when blitz ran away fizzarolli assumed blitz didnt care. and i understand why no one realized that from just watching the episode its not even implied you have to like dig deep to figure that out
please let me have my rant even if its wrong
I agree with you.. But then this 3:56 christ on a stick is his freakin catchphrase, thats like if you gave a sin to spongebob every time he says "im ready"
Fun art design note, they made the flames in hell green as a point to show that it would burn the imps since they’re unnatural. In the first episode it’s orange and doesn’t hurt Millie and Blitzo, but the green ones do burn. I like that art design thing.
The flames actually correlate with the ring colors just like the sky. It was green bc they were in greed.
the only thing that irked me during the reveal is how blitzo outright implies and tells fizz that him losing his mother is actually more worth worrying abt (in fizz’s perspective, his best friends mom) rather than fizz ACTUALLY LOSING all his limbs and horns.
I get that theyre both victims, but good grief blitzo is making it into a contest when its not. both are horrible in their own right and like with octavia and her dad, fizz forgave him too quickly.
at the very least have it take two eps or so, it doesnt even have to be back to back.
A famous maker of plays once observed, “It is required of a story to make the protagonist suffer through coincidence, but awful for coincidence to get them out of trouble.” Other wise no conflict will occur.
4:05-4:25 Omg yeah, I was feeling the exact same way about Blitzo tbh!
Remember when Blitzo could act like a chaotic jack-ass (with nice/caring moments too) and but heads with Moxxie who the voice of reason? Ever since Truthseekers there’s been way less scenes like that now (they’re just all friendly I don’t mind it sometimes but still they barely fight anymore, even when technically Blitzo still acts like a creep stalking M&M that didn’t change) and the only times Blitzos a real jerk anymore, everyone he’s against coincidentally all happen to be jerks who deserve it (like the mother in Western Energy). Sorry but that’s just my opinion 🤷♀️
I agree with what you said, but I believe as time goes on, as much as how you miss the old Blitz, I don't think Blitz having character development isn't a problem here. When he and Stolas got ridiculed in Ozzie's for reasons for being a fucked up couple, Blitz was breaking down in tears, especially when he saw his mom on the phone. I do think the characters who were flanderized were Loona, Stolas, and M&M because in ep 8, Loona showed that she cared for Blitz and the end of the episode but then she went back from being a bitch, M&M still act the same except Moxxie is still being used as a punching bag and that Viv and her team like making him insecure all over again, and Millie is just used as a plot device instead of a character. That still hasn't change and I do really like her, I just wish people who KNOWS how to write (I'm looking at you, Viv) write her actually doing something instead of just being a badass and being Moxxie's wife all the time. THey could tackle on her anger issues she has and how it affects Moxxie and everyone else. I'm up for it. And the very last person to talk about... Stolas
Now, the scene where Stolas and Stella were getting a divorce is still powerful, but looking back to it, I think the scene could've done a bit better, because now that I think about it, now Stella can still be a bitch and a villain, but Stolas should admit what he did was fucked up and he should've broken up with her way before he cheated on her. Cheating is a sin and shouldn't be justified and that Stolas said that he deserves to be ridiculedat Ozzie's, which is why overtime he knows he's not perfect, but still is a caring person who loves his own daughter and that he needs time for himself. He could've also said "WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU WHEN OCTAVIA NEEDED YOU?!" because we haven't seen Octavia and Stella interact and during the flashback, when Octavia is crying, Stella didn't want to deal with her and has Stolas to do it. Or it could be the other way around also when she said that she doesn't give a damn about Octavia and that she is just being used for status. So, now that I rewatched it considering I still love the show, it kinda feels a little bit rushed to me. In my opinion, it could've made everyone still have sympathy for him and people will also realized it still doesn't excuse him for cheating on Stella.
I would actually kinda disagree with some of your rant at the end.
The thing is that this show is somewhat good at the concept of showing over telling.
The subtle little hints in between the words that draw the scenes together.
The tones of voices, the body language....
The things you just can't explain with dialogue alone.
I think the worldbuilding is good.
It may not be the best, but it doesn't really need to be.
I personally quite liked how they made the backstory.
It showed things from fizzarolli's perspective and explained why he held a grudge. They also explained why it was so easy for him to forgive blitzo.
He realized that the fire wasn't blitzo's fault so there was no reason to be angry....
At least, that's what I understood....
I honestly thought we might get a whole or half a episode about their backgroundstory like they did for Blitz and Stolas relationship or somthin'
So... yeah. In Western Energy, that's when I got to where you are with this show. Just... no real expectations for it. Even though I do consider myself a fan of the show, I'm also an aspiring writer and director working on an animated show of my very own. And this show... it's just not as good as I wish it could've been. I'm hoping Hazbin Hotel is better because I love that concept so much. Of the princess of Hell wanting to redeem sinners to send them to heaven. It has so much potential. I just don't want the show to be handled the same way HB is being handled with its story.
I hope it goes well for you!
I laughed a bit when I saw the line “ why does Blitzo hate Blitzo”!
the show doesnt blame blitz, he blame himself. the writing never indicates that blitz is at fault, other characters do, more importantly he does too. hes drowning in guilt and that really puts his character into perspective,
Still it doesn't make sense that everyone say it's his fault. Nobody saw him pushing the guy. Even if what you said it's exactly what the writers wanted to imply, the problem is that it doesn't make sense that other characters say it's Blitzo fault.
@@krabkrabby Well, we didn't really see Barbie Wire's perspective... But It makes total sense for Fizz to be mad at Blitzo.
The flashback shows that what he saw was Blitzo side-eye'ing him during his birthday after Buckzo gave him a card, and then he saw Blitzo looking at him as he was burning and then running away.
From Fizz's point of view, it looked like his best friend hurt him on purpose because he was jealous. (Which is literally stated in the episode, btw)
he literally explained this argument in this very video lmao
If literally EVERYONE in the show believes it is blitz' fault, it IS blitz' fault. that's simply how writing works, if there's nothing (in the SCRIPT, not visually) that contradicts the idea that it's blitz' fault, then that's the show essentially saying that it is blitz' fault, and anything you try to come up with to argue against it is your personal interpretation and therefore isn't reliable as an explanation.
These videos are amazing. Just a mix of comedy and real criticisms. I’m a fan, but I also see the flaws. Thanks for being just fun
To bring up the part about Brandon being wasted. Brandon rogers isn’t as shallow as just offensive humor. He’s made several series that delve deeper into his characters and express more emotions asides humor. I mean look at Bryce or British series. Those are very recent and came out around the same time as these episodes. I feel like blitz perfectly captures both of these aspects, and I do agree it’s been leaning more to the emotional side. Blitz is a broken man masked with humor. As the series has gone on, that mask has come off more and more. Brandon’s characters are extremely like that, introduced as just part of a sketch, have been shown to be so much more. There isn’t any better choice then Brandon honestly
I'm being 100% honest here, one of my favorite things when an episode releases is RandomGameCritic's videos, I feel like he's a really underrated creator. Even if I'm a bit late to this video since timezones and stuff I still want to leave this comment to show my appreciation.
Yeah, same! RandomGameCritic and Moxxie are the two main reasons I watch this show.
I absolutely agree. He just manages to dissect flaws in the show very clearly and concisely.
I mean from fizz perspective all he saw was blitzo looking angry at him and the fire just started getting out of control, maybe at first he didn't believe it was his fault. Then they brought up that fizz thought blitzo never came to see him, but he actually tried was pushed away. That probably cemented his doubt in their friendship. Barbie was probably told this as well, and didn't even try to hear him out. who told them this? who knows. I just wanted to share thoughts. I don't mean to attempt to fill in gaps, i just love taking it a smidge further like a soap opera.
Actually Blitz said that our fire doesn’t hurt them so only Hell and most likely Heaven firs can hurt them.
12:16
He first mouths "fizz" In this scene like asking someone for help
And right after that he mouths "mom" And runs towards her tent (probably) which I later hinted on again with "I lost something important in that fire too" (Idk the exact words) meaning he didn't want to leave fizz but his priorities were on his own mother which he obviously couldn't save.
And yes I know the show should have told us so more clearly but oh well, it's got dedicated fans who over analyze everything for that
Edit: nvm you saw it too
Yknow, the more i watch these new episodes, the more the show feels like its a fan fiction of itself
Lol is it bad i was kinda waiting for this? 😂
Same!!!
@@Akke-hv5ds OKAY GOOD I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE 😆
Then we both be bad
nah i kept checking
@@nexrosi9189 LOL SAME 😆
A problem I have with a lot of their Blitzo centered stuff is that they want us to think Blitzo's at fault for unknown things, then when we do find out / know said things, it doesn't even really feel like his fault?? This is probably the best example, but I've noticed it in other plot points too. I wish they'd either follow through on Blitzo's past actions being bad, or show how from his perspective, he wasn't trying to do anything that bad. Idk, maybe to some all of his actions have seemed bad enough to warrant character's responses, but to me, it really doesn't feel that horrible, especially for hell's standards.
I think the backstory scene was nothing for you because you probably looked into the series too much-
For me, on my first viewing, it actually felt dramatic, learning of how Blizto lost his home, his best friend, and everything. And I just know the surface level lore, as well as some opinions from my friends that makes the story work.
Not hating tho! Just giving my thoughts.
I mean, this is a serie. It's like watching a half movie thinking that it's good, then you watch the first half and you discover inconsistencies.
God I love these videos pointing out this show for what it is
Another great line is near the end when fizz roughly says "you still on the horse thing?!" I laughed so hard during that and had to pause the video😭😭
i didnt rly understand ur point abt "unrealistic expectations".. i agree that a lot of fans should manage their expectations, however, ozzie's changed the characters' dynamic completely and to have the next episode just reset everything and not even mention it in dialogue but in 2 SECONDS through text ??? i dont think im expecting too much. i only expect it to be at the very least mentioned. the outcome, however, is what i would reccommend to manage your expectations. it's basic storytelling. this show isnt like spongebob where nothing matters.
I'm surprised you didn't mention how the show brought back a villian other than Striker or Verosika back after hinting at it. Like the show actually has a bit of continuity now with Crimson.
In an older version of my script, I actually talked for a little bit about how you could have completely skipped _Exes and Ooh_ and not missed a single thing. _Oops_ never establishes or even hints at Crimson having any sort of history with Blitzo. The only thing that their history does is KINDA serve as a "get out of jail free" card for Crimson never even explaining why he even captured Blitzo at all. Hell, when Crimson yells at his guards to "get them," that's the only time in the entire episode that he acknowledges that Blitzo even exists.
So... I was GOING to talk about Crimson being brought back as a returning character, but I was going to use it as an example of how this show once again does not capitalize on the relationships from previous episodes because sometimes they simply aren't taken into account.
@@RandomGameCritic And I've also heard that aside from Striker talking about his last job, nobody in the episode acknowledges Stolas's stay in the hospital. Do these characters have the memory of goldfish?
Looking forwards to the next one.
It will be GUUD! >:3
I'm pretty sure Fizz throwing that in the garbage is supposed to be him not wanting to talk about it, not the show itself stating anything
Okay, I know it's hardly the biggest point of contention with this episode... But here's my two-cents on the coffee gag.
It's literally just nonsense humour. Like, I didn't even notice it on my first watchthrough, but yeah, he just straight-up pours the coffee into a cup for no reason and takes the kettle. I think that's fucking hilarious. A real goofy moment. If you don't see it that way... I'm sad you cannot feel the same potent elation I gain from this divine silliness.
Moxxie should have been the main character. Many people have been saying that for a while now. It would have been pretty great.
I definitely agree about this being among the best of Season 2 (I like the Circus a tad better), probably because Adam didn't write it, Viv did. If Viv writes more of the episodes, Helluva can improve.
I do agree about the backstory being handled somewhat badly, given how quick it was and how it almost felt like an afterthought in some ways. The retconned Stolitz backstory got half an episode but the backstory that was supposedly intended from the start not only gets much less focus than the Stolitz backstory Viv threw together because she liked art in her server (as cute as The Circus was), but less screentime than Loopty's flashback?
I would have felt a bit more okay with the backstory if there was indication within the show itself they had been planning that as Blitzo's backstory for a while. If this really was supposed to be a big traumatic event for Blitzo that explains all his asshole behavior and every mystery the show was dangling save for why Versoika hates Blitzo, there would have been an indication prior. He actually would have had some reaction to the fire in the human realm before remembering human fire can't hurt him (or maybe Moxxie reminds him). And he most _definitely_ would have had a reaction to Robo Fizz burning surrounded by hellfire at Loo Loo Land. But he had no such reaction.
Also, I disagree about you "setting the bar too high". Basic storytelling, like setting up one thing and addressing it, or having a scene that has impact continue to feel impactful. Is not "setting the bar too high". Not for anyone who has a basic grasp of good storytelling. Don't lower basic story standards just because Helluva refuses to meet them.
If the implication that Blitzo's mom died in the fire ends up being true, then I find it odd that the majority of the episode didn't focus on the flashback. My assumption was that Blitzo's burnt bridges were because of a general pattern of behavior, while the latest episode seems to point to most of them being the result of one incident. If that does end up being the case, then I think it's an odd choice to parcel out the explanation instead of giving us the full picture from the start.
Also, well said about basic expectations. Some fans do act like it's wrong to have standards, or act like Helluva Boss is somehow a show that doesn't want to be taken seriously, despite the plethora of drama it indulges in.
I feel that helluva should be like those cartoons like regular show and teen titains where most of the episodes should be some random tomfoolery and 2 back to back important ,serious episodes with an actual plot
(Sorry if i worded that poorly)
Also trash cran 1:05
I just woke up to a bad day, this at least is good
I hope you feel better soon, and that tomorrow is better. ❤
Hope you’re feeling better!
I'm better now guys, I'm done with work for now
Yeah if you watch this show and aren’t deep into the lore, it will be hard to understand, like why can’t loona read the magic book in the weird light meaning they can’t go anywhere but when Octavia uses it she just says “take me to the star” an she ends up in LA ( now that I’m wondering this why didn’t the book just take her to space) also in loo loo land why is stolas acting so vulnerable around Stella after (to my knowledge) literally like an hour ago he just announced there divorce with no care in the world. Actually viv did make a tweet about this and while it does make sense they should’ve at-least imply it in the show but they didn’t
As a fan of the show, i agree that this show in itself isn't really made to be clear to outsiders. But i think that it's not really THAT much of a sin when the super passionate fandom you mentioned does so much to help explain how everything comes together. Like, the show would be able to do a LOT less if it couldn't trust loyal fans to open everything that it says and show the audience how it ticks.
Also, i have to say i fundamentally disagree with you on the blitzø part. You start out being impressed by his outer layers, and then the more you get to know him, you can be impressed by how that facade works in relation to his fears, traumas and insecurities. I see nothing wrong with that.
Thing is, a good show should not force the fanatics, Twitter posts, or things outside the show in order to understand the world and characters of said show. Gravity Falls for instance has the ciphers and Journal 3, but someone can enjoy and understand the show just as much whether they're a casual watcher or a die-hard superfan. That's how a good show should be written, and Helluva Boss doesn't clear that bar of basic writing.
@@RavenStarMedia I mean, it seems to be working, doesn't it? I enjoy my time in this fandom, and it seems to me that a lot of other people do too. So if you need people to do some of the work for themselves, and they do, and the fandom is happy, what makes it "bad writing"? If the show does not explain certain parts of the narrative itself, and instead attracts the kind of fandom that will do it for them, where is the failure?
@@tamarbeker1701 Because the failure is in creating a cohesive world. Helluva tends to not flesh out the world very well to the point fans have to scramble to fill in the blanks with their own headcanons. The world doesn't have a lot of depth because the writers created this world that clearly had a lot of thought and measured consistency put into it-much of the supposed depth that exists is people inserting their own headcanons and theories into their understanding of the show, while the writers don't bother to actually build a consistent world.
Fans having theories about the setting or characters that engage with the fandom is fine. Every fandom has those. The issue is that unlike something like Avatar, Helluva doesn't have pre-established rules of the setting, or even how certain characters act, that are conveyed properly in the show itself. A show should be able to have a world and characters that are understood, fleshed out, and clear to the audience whether you've seen only a couple episodes or you're a hardcore fan who watches every episode and delved into all the codes and behind-the-scenes stuff that you can.
Amphibia does this. Gravity Falls does this. Helluva Boss does not. Helluva Boss, like RandomCartoonCritic said, is written only for the fans, and no one else.
@@RavenStarMedia idk, I guess I just don't see it that way 🤷🏼
@@tamarbeker1701 I think your experience is too limited. I've seen plenty of people criticize the show for not putting important information in the actual episodes, and that's something that either prevents people from becoming fans of the show or being as invested as they could be. I also find it unlikely that anyone watches the show _just_ because they get to look up information outside of the show.
Well thank you for reminding me that Loopty Goopty exists.
…now I’m a bit more disappointed at the lack of hitman centered episodes in the series about imps running a hitman business.
My issue was also with the backstory. In Loo Loo Land Blitz essentially reprises the events of that night. He sets a circus on fire on accident and causes a version os Fizz to burn. Yet how does he act? Like he’s in a big game. He even gets annoyed robot Fizz DOESNT die in the fire. This doesn’t line up with the flashback at all.
Another great video with some really good points.
I don't think this show is perfect, but I think that people who are trying to compare the level of chemistry between Fizz and asmodeus to stolas and Blitz are missing the point.
Fizz and asmodeus are meant to be foils to the main couple. They are meant to represent healthy love in a world where that's not encouraged, and Fizz in particular is meant to represent a good person who finally managed to find somebody who didn't take advantage of or dismiss his good-nature. Fizz is everything that Blitz is not; he had the courage to make good progress on his psychological issues before Blitz came along to help him complete that work, whereas Blitz is still stuck. He is comfortable with himself and his flaws when Blitz is not. He is in a pretty healthy relationship whereas what Blitz and stolas have is currently toxic. Fizz plays an important role in the story both by contrasting Blitz and showing both by direct example and character mirroring that Blitz can overcome his issues.
Asmodeus is a mirror to stolas to a lesser degree, mainly in terms of confidence and honesty. Asmodeus is completely comfortable in his work and willing to be honest with fizz. Stolas hates his job and is ashamed of his anxious attachment Style, and things that hiding it from Blitz will somehow fix it.
Most importantly, as long as Fizz and asmodeus are together, the many, many reasons that Blitz and stolas have for not working on themselves or their relationship don't really hold water. The problems of these characters are so relatable that there is a danger of sympathizing too much and failing to acknowledge how toxic the relationship is. As long as asmodeus and Fitz are there, the audience can't get comfortable with how Blitz and stolas relationship operates. There is always a better example. There is no excuse for stolas and Blitz oh, because the relationship between Fizz and asmodeus is one that still has minor issues, but is between two people who have put the work in for themselves and each other.
Moxie and Millie definitely need more development, but I think it's important that it's there. It shows that even two of the most good-hearted characters in the show can be battling codependent Tendencies, because he'll is not a conducive environment for healing or self-improvement. Despite their best efforts, they are still a product of the environment that they grew up in.
Fizz thinks that it's Blitzo's fault because he was jealous of Fizz talent (In Fizz perspective that's what happened)
10:59: The problem you have here is the problem ive been having with stolitz's relationship this season, and its exactly the same thing!! Like, those text messages, for example, where its framed as blitzo not caring and being a dick, when the whole conversation stolas is being weird and ''oh its ok if you dont want to i dont care its fine'', its a wall of text that says NOTHING and clearly both of them dont know how to communicate, yet the show makes you think ''damn, blitzo you are an asshole omgg poor stolas''. Cause if you read into it, yes, the messages are well made and make sense and all the framing for that section is completely in stolas' perspective. But those arent real people with complex feelings, those are characters from a show and the writters are failing to make their audience understand that. Oh i fucking hate stolitz i could write my own wall of text about everything i dislike of them in s2 while they were my faves in s1..... sorta. I liked this episode tho, i like fizzarolli, im more interested in him than in half the cast--
You are actually supposed to notice that Blitz hates himself and is holding walls up. Everyone is taking it as Blitz is a dick because they don't understand trauma brain.
@@sandracarnegie2871yes, if you start reading texts that are shown 5 seconds in the scene where stolas starts crying and a flower petal falls, people are dumb as hell but the show isnt doing the best job at explaining to people something that they explained so easily and clearly in the first season. Helluva boss fans are illiterate and all, but you cant deny how the show is trying to stop people from remembering everything that made Stola's be as toxic as blitzo is to make stolitz be a reasonable ship, and ive felt this since this season started. Everyone understands why blitzo is how he is (at least i hope so), but he is still being portrayed as the bad one in the relationship, while stolas is being portrayed as the victim of blitzo's problems who hasnt done anything that made blitzo feel wronged!!
@@nuggetsplace8273Yes, that's my point.
They clearly simp for Stolas and want to portray Blitz as the bad one, but they're not able to see how toxic Stolas is. He's the king of the uwu and a Gary Stu, and also he doesn't give a heck about Blitzo. He bought his body using his book instead of money (basically he's exactly like his father), he never gives a heck about Blitz not being happy with that, he constantly think to sex and nothing else (he never asked to Blitz to have a date) he was OK to flirt with Blitz in front of the imp population, but he was embarrassed and basically refused Blitzo in front of nobles. Then he tried to act like nothing happened. The show is clearly written to create cringy drama and Vivziepop desperately wants to convince the public that Stolas is a poor defendless satanic demon that only wants love 🥺🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everything is soooooo stupid.
I just hope so bad that Alastor will be able to prove his points that hell is full of trash, because he's my last hope rn. 😂
@@krabkrabby OH THEN WE AGREE okok great. Vivziepop clearly wants to convince us that the rich royalty bird who manipulated blitzo into giving him sexual pleasure cause if he declined, he had no job anymore. Sure they are cute, and sometimes blitzo is insanely toxic cause his mind is a shithole i do not wanna be near, but at the end of the days blitzo will never stop being a victim as much as stolas is made out to be
@@nuggetsplace8273 True
I feel like this show has stopped being what it wanted to be since it was revealed that Stolas had actual feelings for Blitzø. This show had such a fun premise and would make it stand out against Hazbin hotel since Helluva was supposed to be episodic rather than have a long ongoing story line and I wish it could’ve stayed that way but it feels like the creative team cares too much about what fans wanna see rather than what they planned out that now it’s just “oh the fans seem to like this part. Let’s add it into the show” which is why now it’s almost just basically the Blitzø and Stolas show because every fan seems obsessed with them as a couple
Personally, I never had major expectations for this show aside from, "it's going to do it's own thing", and leave it at that.
You could argue that that is a problem, it doesn't know what it wants to be. There is some merit to that, but it's not something I fully agree with.
I watch the show to see the characters I enjoy, to see conflicts arise, situations be resolved, and to be entertained. I don't see the issues people have with this show, at the very least, I don't see as many, so I don't feel the need to disect the show like others do.
This is not intended to be an insult to anyone who critiques the show, I apologize if it came across that way.
I wanted to make this comment because the episode came out on the day of my Grandfather's funeral, and it was a needed pick-me-up, so it has a special place in my mind. So, this will likely be the one time I make a comment here. Have your own opinions about the show, I believe it's grown to be better than it would be if it were episodic. Most importantly, I wish anyone who reads this a nice day.
Personally, i do see the fire thing as blitzos fault. If he hadnt had pushed the person holding the birthday cake than no one would have gotten hurt. I understand it was an accident, but that doesn't downplay the pain it caused. Its like car accidents. Thats my opinion though, overall I find that your analysis is constructive, and makes me think about things in a different way than i did initially
okay since theres a whole 15 minutes VIDEO on this im only doing the first minute. for most of it the sum is just the rush to get it out, also mistakes happen. remember this isnt some netflix animated show with millions or thousands of workers making it. this is just a small team that viv has with her to create something. plus these minor mistakes dont even really become noticed when you watch it the first, second, or even third time! (for what I know) and it doesnt really matter if he poured something he didnt drink out of (lol)
now about the higher ranks dating imps, they dont really want others to know because as long as nobody with a higher rank then them calls them out for it, if they never talk about it then nobody else lower or on the same rank as them can point it out because of fear if they did so. (we can see proof of this in ozzies episode and episode eight.)
Also another thing, millie and moxxies relationship is just as good as asmodeus and fizz's. (imo) and it shows how much they love each other and would do anything for each other. and the reason stolitz doesnt have that is because they dont know how to communicate and this is a problem that gives us the drama, tension, and suspense we need to want to keep watching. we want to continue so we can find out what happens and if it works out.
now the reason he thinks its his fault is because he left fizz to die and caused the horses to seem alarmed.
fizz thinks its blitz' fault because he ran away from fizz while he was burning instead of trying to help.
theres some parts i agree with here and some i dont
Your point about the good relationship writing being "wasted" on fizz and asmodeus would make sense if fizz wasnt coming back, but the next episode is a fizz episode and only time will tell to see how much of a recurring character he will be.
I sort of agree with your point about blitzo being in the right, but i dont feel that they ever really said he was directly in the wrong, it came off that way from both parties, blitzo started a small fire and next thing he knew, the whole circus was burning down, and fizz litterally watched blitzo run away so obviously he thought he was wrong
another thing on the circus scene, and actually a gripe this time. The storyboard for the scene did show blitzo saying "mom" in that scene before running, its annoying that this patreon only (atleast i think its patreon only) secret is here, it would be better if they had a faint sound of their words, or even not faint at all, so you can clearly tell what he is saying and why it doesnt look like he was just a horrible person in that scene
i also just dont really understand why you put the 14:32 comment there, seems like a fairly normal comment of someone to make about an opinon they had that they later changed, i know you put that in your top comment but i dont really understand the original intention.
If i think of any other things i have a strong enough opinion to mention here but this is the main things i thought about, sorry if im sounding hostile or anything, im trying to grow past listening to a youtube video and going "wow hes right" for no reason and have that shape my opinion, just trying to start thinking for myself is all
4:09 Shows are supposes to be interesting just because a comedic voice actor is being serious for once doesn't make it boring. (No hate here just clearing things up)
I'm not gonna try and excuse the batshit pacing of the flashback, but I do feel that it leaves things a lot more open-ended than you're giving it credit for. I'll comment on the whole "it wasn't really Blitzo's fault" thing-
Uh... Yeah, no. It was. Not in the traditional sense, though.
See, it was indeed a freak accident that he *technically* caused, but that's not necessarily why the other characters- and Blitzo himself- feel the need to blame him so heavily. The way I see it, because Blitzo ended up causing the fire as a result of a brash outburst stemming from his inability to truly open up to other people (which has been his major character flaw from the very start), Blitzo intentionally decided to shoulder the majority of the blame. His self-hatred is simply that strong. There's subtext, y'know?
Barbie Wire's reasons for hating Blitzo are still rather dubious, too. Unlike Fizz, who mostly just misunderstood what really happened that night. I guess it's possible that Barbie hates Blitzo due to sharing Fizz's initial perspective, but that doesn't seem like a very interesting route to take her character. In fact, it's implied that she hates him for... Multiple things he's done. They have a history, and we'll just have to wait for more context on that.
11:00 My daughter pointed out that there are green flames on the candles. Why didn’t they use earth fire? So, I started thinking…. What if Mammon set it up? We know that Fizz went to Mammon afterwards, so what if Mammon saw Fizz and wanted to play savior and Blitzø was a catalyst? I mean, I’m sure that he didn’t know Blitzø was going to bump into the cake holder, but at the same time, it was like it was a setup, hoping something would inevitable happen so that the circus would burn and he would get the “best: attraction for his opening of Loo Loo Land, Fizz? It just turned out better than he had hoped. Just a theory, but I guess we won’t know until later in the show.
How can coffee tastes like piss?
Put subtitles on in this part of the episode @6:55
They changed it
What's taking so long?
Why haven't you done S2E7?
impatient much
The episode is literally 30 minutes long. Analyzing it all will take quite a bit more time than usual, so we should be patient.
My guesstimate would be Late November, but I'm just a random commenter, so take that with a massive grain of salt.
@@robbys5236 thanks.
5:10 I am black, if you are also black at one point you have had this convo. You could be Blitzo or Fizz or you might even be Striker. But at some point you had this convo. I lowkey liked seeing this idk why but it hit at the right spot cause Ik that feeling, me being the Fizz in thus convo with my friend about the person who is now his gf.
Hell fire and earth fire are different Blitz said so himself in episode !.
Ok so I barely have the energy to care about Helluva Boss, much less these sins videos but pushing that aside, why does Fizz and Ozzie having a good dynamic/relationship warrant 5 sins? Isn't that a good thing?
It's not the fact that they have a healthy relationship, Is that the writers only managed to make a well-written loving duo only with them
100% agree with you on the not feeling more for the backstory reveal. I thought the pov from Fizzerolli, combined with the brilliant voice acting and the music for this scene, was good! But I still wasn't overly gripped by the scene, it just kinda happened and then I moved on with the rest of the episode.
I think another thing that could have made this scene a better and more emotionally impactful, was if we had more time with Fizz and Blitz interacting, because up until this episode, the only time we've seen Blitz and Fizzerolli (not counting robo fizz cuz he's a robot with no actual backstory with Blitz, he's just designed after a character who does) interact was during the song in Ozzie's twice for maybe 8-10 seconds, and the only line of dialogue that was exchanged between them was from Fizzerolli. Blitz never gets a chance to say anything back to him because it instantly cuts to Verosika and then on the second occasion to Stolas. And then the second time was in The Circus - the flashback part
(Granted The Circus episode does set up the "What happened to them?" theme and confirms that all the white scars on Fizz's face are in fact scars since his skin as a kid was red like other imps. But again this was a small interaction in an otherwise Blitz and Stolas related episode)
It's the same sort of issue you brought up in your video for the Loo Loo Land episode. The show introduced us to Octavia, gave us one flashback of her and Stolas having a wholesome moment, didn't convey the message that Octavia was at all uncomfortable or genuinely upset just moody, and then gave us an ending which - on paper the scene itself it great, the dialogue is wonderful - for me wasn't emotionally impactful cuz we had only just met Octavia
I know a lot of fans where probably super hyped to finally have this mystery solved, but aside from that photo on Blitz's phone at the end of Ozzie's and that scene of kid Fizz and Bliz interacting in the circus episode I don't think there was a great deal of emotional build up for the backstory scene. Like with the Loo Loo Land ending, on paper I think the scene is fine: Fizz's pov I think was the better part for me - but otherwise this scene just felt like it kind of happened since we've had so little interactions with these two in the show outside of the interactions in Ozzie's (which where seconds long) and the child scene in the circus
I've gotten Helluva fans upset with me for making a post after the Exes and Oohs episode so to be on the safe side, this isn't me trying to make an attack I'm just trying to give a constructive opinion on an episode of a series which is high quality in it's animation, music, backgrounds and voice acting, but storywise feels lacking to me
Can't wait for the episode on the amazing digital circus
this is like somebody whos favorite transformers movie is The Last Knight, criticize Bumblebee
also, doesnt the class divide play a part in blitz and stolas's romance arc
I didn't even get that it was a gag. It registered as Fizz failing to pour some coffee for Ozzie in the mug and being 'quirky to drink from the pot himself' which was not funny to me. It's showing their morning routine which made me think Fizz has messed that up everyday, again not adding hilarity but annoyance.
Yes, them being immune to the episode one fire is canon. But i have a reasoning why this fire hurt them, its hell fire. Wordly fire doesnt hurt them, but obviously the fire in hell is different in some kinda way.
I always love your videos for a much deserved wake up call that always slaps my rose colores glasses away and allows me to see the obvious and glaring flaws I often overlook because of how much I love HB
I’m sorry, but I think the excuses of “well this show doesn’t take itself seriously” and “we set our expectations too high” are a little silly. If this show doesn’t take itself seriously, why should I care about Fizzaroli and Blitzø? Why should I care about Stolas getting tortured to death? And as for setting expectations too high, I really don’t think expecting the show to follow up on major plot points is unreasonable. Take the Stolas and Blitzø’s falling out in Ozzie’s for example. In fact, I think it would be unreasonable *not* to expect them to do it. I get what you’re saying, but if they’re going to put serious moments in their show, they really can’t just toss them aside without a second thought. Sorry this was so long.
0:07 I thought he was making the pot for Ozzie.
0:34 The episode does mention it again. Several times. Their totally unemotional bang sesh. Fizz worrying about people seeing Ozzie being openly affectionate towards him at the end of the episode.
3:14 That's why he's saying it here. It's exposition.
I knew that I should have mentioned the end of the episode...
But the ending not only doesn't address the "hypocrisy" shown in the article, but it also firmly establishes that Ozzie "doesn't even care" if people find out anymore. Yes, you can argue that this only applies to witnesses that are directly on Asmodius' payroll, but I still feel like the show itself was sending a message.
@@RandomGameCritic It seemed to me that they're treating it like a celebrity having an affair. It's frowned upon, but there aren't really any consequences for it. I don't really see it as the show telling the fans that they "have no interest in ever talking about" this, especially since there were three separate scenes in this very episode dedicated exclusively to talking about it.
14:44 uum dude she explained that he drove 3 rings to wrath (I think) max HER credit card for horse riding lesson.
Now if someone did this to you how would you feel ? Happy ??
1:42 well this sin has just been proved entirely false
5:14 so has this one
normally i mostly agree with you in these videos but this one kinda sucked.
first off, its not a problem that Blitzø, who is the fucking protagonist, has more depth than was originally expected. he would just be uninteresting at that point, which is exactly the criticism you leveled against him because Brandon Rodgers has running bits with this character that you happen to not like.
second, Blizø and Stolas are SUPPOSED to be toxic. as for Millie and Moxxie not “showing that theyre in love”, they just have a different dynamic. theyre affectionate, but they also are more casual with each other. considering its implied that theyve been married for a bit now, thats to be expected. and Ozzie and Fizz are supposed to show what Stolas and Blitzø should be, so of course theyre the best couple in the show. and none of this is me “reading into the show,” its just what ive gathered from being a casual fan.
I agree that Helluva has fallen off in season 2. personally, i feel like its starting to pick up again and this was just an off season, but i digress. however, it feels like people have begun to LOOK for the negatives and ignore the positives as a result of that. and it feels like thats a big problem in this video, especially with the just vitriolic anger in most of the sins.
I mostly love these videos (i'm so genuinely stuck in my autistic bubble that it's good for me to see an outsider's perspective on this show) but i have just one thing to say today
It does bother me whenever I see anyone point out the Ozmodius scene in this episode where he talks about not forcing lust on to other people? like yes it's hell, hell is a bad place and people there do bad stuff, but the writers room is full of humans who are statistically far more likely to be affected by sexual harassment than by murder. And most people are, really. I honestly appreciate a show that actually does draw the line sometimes, because it's still important to be respectful to real human experiences, even in a show where you can excuse any bad deed by saying something about what someone else did.
TL;DR: its not that deep but I'm delusional and will pretend that it is, in fact, that deep
I definitely agree with your criticisms towards this episode. Thought I'd respectfully put in my view. In terms of comedy, this episode was a real return to form, I laughed the most I've laughed since episode 6 of season 1. Look at This is probably my favourite song, it's literally a song about nothing yet also has hidden meanings. Where this episode falls short slightly is the backstory part of it, I agree. I do think the way Blitzo mouths Mom is heartbreaking, the fact we don't hear him and yet can see how afraid and horrified he is, 10/10 animation. Gotta give Brandon credit for his voice acting when he broke down in front of Fizz. I do wish we would have lingered a little bit more on Fizz and Blitzos relationship from the past, as in more flashbacks, would have probably nailed home the sense of betrayal from Fizz. I am a little disappointed that Striker has taken a dip in villain quality, but will say seeing him lose it and become desperate shows potential. I think this episode benefitted from not having Moxxie and Millie in it, they are usually sub-plot characters, and it can take away from the quality. Though I do really enjoy them in main plots. I think my biggest gripe is the line where Fizz and Blitzo realise that they were stopped from seeing each other when Fizz was in hospital, the simple oh means absolutely nothing. Who stopped them? It could have been Blitzos father but we have no real way of knowing. Also why? Fizz couldn't perform anyways until he recovered, so why keep them apart? These are all nitpicks though. This is the best episode of Season 2 and probably my third favourite episode before Truth Seekers and Ozzie's!
Those multiple objects in one frame to make fast motion as you all may know, are smears, made to simulate live action motion blurs, the reason they look jagged and weird as only two frames is because of the repetition and lack of bounciness, but I get it, they did want some real fast movement, what I'd do is if some of those frames interchangeably changed with alts they'd look a bit better, like instead of "ABABABAB" we had "ABACABAC"
PS: this is not a jab at the show's animation quality, it's pretty good, just explaining in case some folks were also wondering why it felt off
*4:30*
Well yea this was meant to be the goofy side series to hazbin hotel
I think one of the things I didn't like about this episode is how it disregards the events of Western Energy. We hear from Striker that this episode took place about a week after Stolas' encounter with Striker with that moment being shown as a really important and detrimental part of the story. Yet in Oops that entire episode is sort of pushed to the side and only mentioned in a very brief line which people might miss on their first viewing of the episode. Aside from that I think this is a really good episode.
2:52 I think it’s dumb how Assmodeus doesn’t like r@pe potions, but is fine with his Succubi hypnotizing people.
I disagree about blitzo you can have a character who's a loveable jackass but have a tragic backstory just look a bojack horseman
if you think about it there's only 7 sins. without dating down their only option is to date each other. that'd get messy pretty fast
Helluva Boss feels to me like it had 2 pitches 1: a comedy about I.M.P. going to earth and killing people. 2: a "rom-com drama" about the class struggle of Hell (plus showing off Viv's world building that wouldn't be seen in Hazbin Hotel.) Then Viv went "we'll do both In the same show." but they ran out of real ideas for I.M.P. and the "rom-com drama" was liked by fans more. which lead to I.M.P. episodes being bland and drama episodes lacking the world building needed to understand them without talking to fans and looking for background details. It will be interesting to see if and how they end the show (at least for a bit.) As they seem to be leaning all in on the DRAMA.
I think I remember her saying that this show is supposed to have four seasons, and like…..atp I really am interested to see how. This feels like a show with a very limited shelf life, especially with the quality declining so drastically and so quickly between seasons (with rare exceptions like this episode, which is the first one I’ve enjoyed probably since season two has started😭)
I like how this episode completely dodges the pan-hierarchy couples and then immediately starts dealing with it in the next ep.
Hey! I love your videos and the pilot for the Amazing Digital Circus just dropped, I'd love if you checked it out!
0:34 See how he grabs the magazine, the pages are facing him, so he couldn’t see the cover.
This guy triggers me but sure I’m about to sound like a nerd but he definitely does not know the lore and in my opinion, he can’t criticize it without that
YUP
What lore is he missing here?
The profile picture explains it all
@@taniatokustar7737allmost all of it
@@Storm_Bringer_666me or him?