Will The Canon R5 Overheat Filming A Wedding?
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Wedding filmmaking requires a camera that will film B-Roll in a wide variety of frame rates, as well as continuously record a long wedding ceremony. Is the Canon R5 up to the challenge, or will it overheat and be unreliable? I bought one and put it to the test for wedding videography.
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Matt, nobody would watch this video and get the feeling you’ve been sponsored by Canon for this one.. you don’t have to worry 🤣🤣🤣
That was a good one
No, clearly this is canons idea of reverse psychology. You can't pay him to say good things, that would be too obvious. You gotta trick people.
@@gmcubed Matt is a nice guy, he is angry. Never seen Matt like that about a camera. It could be reverse psychology overload
Haha for sure.
Maybe he is sponsored by Sony :)
Matt: “Professional film makers should NOT rely on this camera”
Canon: 👁💧👄💧👁
Any professional film maker that buys an R5 is dumb... just as dumb as any pro photographer buying a 12 MP crippled A7SIII.
Cinema cameras exist for a reason.
@@77dris maybe the point is not every professional thinks the same, I'm a wedding photographer and I shoot photos with a Sony A7iii, I used to do it with an A7r2 but the raw sizes were just too big, so didn't go for the r3 or r4 cause the prints I do really don't need anything beyond 24mpxs, that could happen with video: shooting raw video is a nightmare and most progressionals only do that if necessary
@@77dris try to spend a whole wedding day with a professional camera mounted on a gimbal. Good luck with that ;-)
@@badmoonPL did it for 35 weddings last year. This year I don't use a gimbal unless I have too. My back got so fucked up. 😅
Yes, though he's assuming that you don't have six R5 bodies in rotation and an S1H for everything long form ;)
"Most filmmakers I know shoot in UHD"
*Nods and strokes chin* "Of course..."
*Googles "UHD vs DCI"*
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Corey Koon 😂😂😂
LOL!!!! 😂😂😂
haha as a just new to video that is SO me about every other big technical word lol
My mind was blown when I first heard there were two types of 4k. I died.
If you've been considering buying the R5 for wedding filmmaking, I hope this video helps with your decision!
Glad we didn't buy them, still loving our S1 and A7iii's here and will most likely stick with them for a couple more years.
Thank you Matt! Super helpful! We all appreciate your real world test for weddings using this camera. I’m going to wait for the Sony a7sIII : )
Ps... I hope you can get your money back and return it. Lol.
Thank you Matt. Breaks my heart, being fully invested in Canon glass myself.. Hopefully the R6 will be wedding capable.
@@angelcelest I thought about the Canon R6 as well, but found another reviewer who had a horrible experience (CineD): ua-cam.com/video/nt7ZbvqWfdY/v-deo.html
Canon fans be like "oh but that color science."
@@reneecker116 Racist or at the very least highly insensitive comment.
Steves Vanderpool hm was more of a question, didnt want to offend anyone. But a lot of ppl of Asia are called Nguyen right?
@@reneecker116 I'd say at least 25% of the Vietnamese aboriginals have the Nguyen last name. Legend has it that the people of the Nguyen dynasty changed their surname to that of the King's.
Henry Nguyen thanks for the answer! Once more: I didn’t want to offend you
@@reneecker116 Nah, im not easily offended.
Well done Matt, very good video. You’ve got across those really important points that people just don’t realise!
Thanks Philip! I only wish I had the chance to test the camera in Skiathos 😂
Matt WhoisMatt Johnson Sorry! Americans are banned from all Europe. Probably forever! 🤣
You prolly dont care but if you're stoned like me atm then you can stream all the latest series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my girlfriend these days xD
@Nicolas Korbyn Yea, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
Yall member getting pumped for this camera?
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LMAOOOOO
WoW so it would have totally failed me with that 2 hour Catholic wedding ceremony I shot last month.
I think it would have recorded the entire ceremony in 4K non HQ, but you could kiss filming the rest of the reception at anything higher than 30fps.
Uh, so how were you able to shoot 8k and 4K 120 last month then? Oh yeah, you didn't. You shot 1080 or 4K 30, which you can do with the R5 unlimited. People are so dumb.
@@77dris I used to love cannon too man... It's okay sometimes you just got to let it go.
@@whoismatt you should clarify unless you want to pay xtra and do external recording. But yeah 120 above. Not going to happen. Which is cheaper for the 4k hq file sizes, internal card or 1 to 2 tb external drives, so files that big. 800$ for ninja v and 2 1tb drives is cheap in space compared to internal card, right? If I was going to record hours of hq. Going to use external recorder anyway. It is practical from space. Cost perspective. Only thing, you lose from a professional vid camera here is 120 slowmo.
Man, I feel like these camera companies send out the cameras early to give a good boost to the sales. This model definitely backfired on Canon for sure. Also, appreciate you doing the review for a camera you actually paid for
So far it’s selling fast backorder now till December.
@@Davitor1 They also didn't roll out as much as they were planning to because I feel they're probably hoping that by late fall they have a solution. I hope so too. The R5 and R6 deserve better
Actually, the R5 is the best selling Canon pro camera to date, they have exceeded expectations and made an announcment about this. R5 is a pro PHOTO camera, NOT a video camera. Anybody who buys it for video only has only themselves to blame.
As a pro photographer, if I'd spent $5000 on an A7SIII and then tried to give my clients 12 MP photos, I'd get laughed at, then fired. Should I blame Sony?
Sorry, Matt made the mistake, nobody else.
@@77dris how did he make a "mistake"? The R5 was marketed by Canon as a high end production camera. He literally screen capped the marketing material wherein Canon states this. Canon chose the bed they are lying on. The overheating issue is a crippling situation, especially because it affects the camera even for just shooting photos. If you rationalize that this is an amazing photo camera that Canon overhyped as a video camera... if you are a professional, you still have to ask yourself... can I rely on this item for a full day shoot? The answer seems to be no.
I'm one of the suckers who bought a 6D Mark ii. I cant sell it. Nobody will buy it... I've been trying for 2 years on craigslist
The most straight answered video on the overheating of this camera, THANK YOU!
Have you used the ninja on a gimbal? Just curious, cuz I shoot all day on a gimbal and I never bought a ninja because it seems like it would be too heavy and throw off the balance. Just curios if anyone has experience with it on gimbal?
Davin Phelps what I do is put a cheese plate on the side of the gimbal or have a handle attached with the gimbal that has places where I can mount anything that has a 1/4 screw. I put the ninja on that side rather that ever putting it on the top of the camera.
ANM Productions - All Things Film thanks for your response!
Useful real-world tests, thanks!
This is just so disappointing... i have been waiting so long for the R6 and R5... I will wait for the new R cinema small form camera... but I really wanted something full frame 4k HQ for film making with my RF glass...Guess I will be left waiting for another year or so
I'm interested to see what Canon does with their RF cinema cameras, but I doubt they will have things like IBIS unfortunately.
Yes! This is the kind of real-life review I've been waiting for. Would to pick this up as a B-cam and keeping my BMPCC6k as my main cam.
You really nailed this review. Great work! I would NEVER film an entire wedding ceremony in 8K, but I would definitely use 8K for a few specialty moments, either with the bride and groom or epic landscapes as you described. But without access to 4K 60 or 4KHQ 24 fps I find it unusable.
Very good testing, thank you. I wonder if you had the chance to try the s35-mode, which is oversampled 4K and not supposed to overheat. I know everybody is panning the R5 as a video tool, but if you think of it as a very good stills camera with a small c200 inside, I think it makes quite a lot o f sense (lack of reliable slo-mo notwithstanding). If the s35 4k turns out to be as reliable as the non HQ 4k, that is.
Hey Matt WhoisMatt Johnson! I just bought the Canon R6 and did some 1080p and 4K testing.. No overheating with firmware 1.2.0. None. I ran out of memory before I could get it to overheat. LOL Need more memory -- which 170mb/s can handle anything out of the R6. Also I'm able to use both card slots for video -- someone told me that was 'locked' in the previous firmware versions?
I wouldn't go to a wedding with only the R5 because of this issue. Having a backup (ideally identical to the main camera) is a must. The insulation and weather sealing probably traps heat. WHat happens when you leave the battery door and jack covers open? DO you think they should offer a detachable external heat sink? - Or expose some metal. Amplifiers and speakers have those. Come on! Is it a crazy idea?
Would you recommend the R5 as a Professional Photography Camera that also will be great for a UA-camr over the R6? I think Canons Idea It was to use the R5 video capabilities for things like UA-cam.
Wow what about the solutions? You haven’t said anything positive about the R5 since it dropped. It’s helpful of you want to know the negative but the new Sony overheats too but you haven’t put out one video about this. It’s so obvious that your a Sony fan boy. Hey no judgment tho.. 🤷🏽♂️ Keep up the vids. Still appreciate cha.📺
Yours is simply the best, most practical, and down to earth perspective. I live in the California desert- it’s 118 degrees today. I have two EOS R’s that have never let me down 😬
You can record to an atomos and get over 4+ hours of continuous recording with no overheating, and only 5-10 minute recovery time.
But should you have to when buying a $4000 camera. With a good set of lenses, cfexpress cards and the ninja I would most definitely just go with something else with all that money
@@brandoncharleswhite7893 it's the replacement for the 5dline and same price range of original 5dmaKIV whose video capabilities does even come close to this. For 4000$ the hybrid capabilities are well worth the price. Hmm any 5dmarkiv wedding shooters out there? The marketing around this camera sucks but people claiming this cannot be a professional video camera, well, it is plain and simple b.s. only if you have to have 120 slomo would that be true. Add a 600 ninja v 4500 and this camera is fantastic. Most definitely beats other previous camera setups. It may not be the BEST professional video camera but it definitely can be a good one. If your need is photo and video candy do without 120 then this would be one of the best with the ninja added. Glorified eos r, compare 4k24 non hq and all other stats, photons video. Sorry matt but that is complete bs statement, R cannot compare to R5
That is a practical workaround yes. If a photographer wants to use his R5 for video, then they could invest in an Atomos. I've seen a former collegue do that for vlog/bts work, and it works. He also has a C300III for when he's really doing video.
Thank you for your test, Matt! I know you got some criticism for releasing yet another overheating video, but yours is very unique to specific professionals, like me. Your conclusion especially sums it up for me and was very helpful. You went very in-depth and showed me how this camera would operate in a wedding environment. I already decided against using this camera in those scenarios, but this shows me exactly what to expect from this camera at a wedding and I can NOT afford to have it fail on me. Had that happen to me once with a Nikon rental and I'm glad I had other cameras recording the ceremony. Thanks, again!
Thanks Andrew! Glad my video was specific and helpful. :)
I am getting stomach ache listening and imagine
So, Canon marketed to us a $4,000 features and Supplied a $2,000 capability!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I dunno how some dudes on Facebook talking about filming with the EOS R5 the whole wedding day 4k60 without overheating.
I think even if you could... You are literally stepping on eggshells and babying the camera all day and instead of concentrating on capturing the best footage, you are concentrating on not overheating your camera. No thanks !
Great review of real world use of this camera, Matt. I can't wait until Sept. 24. 👀
Thanks Vu! Agreed that this camera has me thinking more about overheating than actual storytelling.
@@whoismatt 💯
Exactly. That's no way to work.
@@loudandclearmedia yup
I hate those clickbait posts/videos. External recording via a thin hdmi or internal without redundancy are also deal breakers in run & gun situations.
Useless camera, epic fail canon, disappointing. A7siii here I come
How is it useless? Overheating issue is fixed by recording to an external record (which most people at this level are using anyway). With the overheating being fixed, it makes the R5 a better overall camera than the A7siii for both stills and video
For sure better than A7sIII Sony, with the same overhearing problems of Canon.
@@SuomiFinland78 huh? u make no sense lol
@@jtdiddy3160 but you cant record 4k120 externally
I wouldn't say useless but they are indeed crappin the bed on this rollout.
Matt, thank you so much! This is the exact question I was asking myself all the time. "If I buy this for stills, can it pull off enough video shoots for me to create a 5-to-10-minute clip about the wedding day for my clients?" Well, it seems the awnser is no.
That's not true. It certainly can. If you're able to do it with your current configuration, you can certainly do it with the R5.
@@tayo5302 that's not true. 4k crop doesn't overheat. Just stop the pandering. And doesn't overheat with an Atomos
For a UA-cam with more real world reviews - that are actually real world reviews - like this.
I live in Brazil and I do a lot of external photo and video, at temperatures above 45 Celsius. I do it with no problems using my 1dxmk2, but I had my doubts on the R5. Not anymore thanks to you.
Thanks for the content!
* are you keeping the camera?
Have you heard anything with the fix of adding the copper plate in the camera?
Hi. With the new firmware 1.6, I see this problem is solved
Thanks for crushing all of my hopes and dreams.
C200 is still good at least! 😂😭
Don't use 8k and limit 4k. 1080p is more than enough. Doing high quality video in camera is extensively expensive venture when you can just bump up the resolution in post.
Why not just shoot 1080p?
If you where to put the canon upside down can you put a frying pan and cook and egg?
Canon deserves suing.
#FakeOverheatingR5
I noticed a lot of likes for comments agreeing with you. But no love for those comments mentioning it not overheating with external recorder. Are you intentionally ignoring those comments about the Ninja V?
Hey Fred, definitely not intentionally ignoring. I've replied to some. :) I think its great that there is at least a workaround for this camera overheating. That said, the Ninja V is going to require an extra cost of $1000 (recorder + SSDs) to an already expensive $3900 camera.
Then you have to consider the bulkiness of any rig using the Atomos. Using it on a gimbal etc is going to slow down filmmaking a lot. For the reason of added weight I don't use nor recommend an external monitor when filming weddings.
Lastly consider that you are now relying on a rather flimsy micro hdmi cable connector to get you through a wedding day. The R5 is not recording video internally, so if something goes wrong you are stuck with an overheating camera.
@@whoismatt You can shoot 4KHQ, 4K60, and 4K s35mm Crop externally without limits. I think not even mentioning this is a huge omission. ESPECIALLY because it comes down to a personal preference of not using an external monitor. To be completely honest, you are largely in the minority on that. Most filmmakers absolutely use external monitors. Also, why didn’t you mention Super 35mm Crop? its is 5.1K oversampled to 4K and it looks excellent! You can shoot 4K Crop 24p with NO overheating. Also you are almost always on zoom lenses for this work. S35 is a very popular format for cinema shooters. In Weddings, you mostly need more lens for those intimate moments. Even using it to punch in is very useful. There is no mentions of almost any of the well known positives in this camera. The superior IBIS and industry leading eye tracking auto focus come to mind. They would come in handy for gimbal work and weddings. Those omissions are pretty wild. It borders on disingenuous.
All the Lumix users in the room smiling to themselves maliciously... insert Mr Burns voice... Excellent...
I hope Panasonic users are enjoying their popcorn 😂
@@whoismatt Oh we are! And hoping for a GH6 to be announced at some point? Time will tell. Awesome review, as always, Matt!
Christian Wilson which S1 do you use? The S1H is a beast!
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Really good review of this topic! As a big canon fan, I am honestly very disappointed with the company. I always compared it to an Iphone, which most if time had lower specs than it's competition but worked most of the times better overall. It seems like canon decided to change this strategy and they really totally messed up. Also after seeing the improved Sony a7s3 colors and menue there are really less and less reasons to stay with canon after 10 years.
For a 4k price tag camera, 4k @ 120 with no over heat is a must. Canon FAILED big time!
Thank you for speaking the truth!
The best R5 review for wedding filmmaking out there. Like and Sub!
Wow, what a bad piece of equipment! Are you returning it?
Nope. He's keeping it. Ever wonder why?
This is by FAR the best video on the practicality (or lack there-of) of the R5, and it’s not even close. Incredible work, thorough tests.
Thanks Joe!
Interesting addition:
- 4k60 works limitless with an external recorder.
- 4k30 HQ works limitless with an external recorder. :
Can you run around filming a wedding day with an external recorder? Honest question. I shoot all day on a gimbal and it just seems like it would way it down and throw off the balance. And just be a lot of weight and wires for all the quick shots you need to get on a wedding day
@@davindotcom just master the art of handheld 🤷♂️
Thank you for this video. I shoot with Canon, Sony and BlackMagic for weddings, music videos, real estate, TV and much more, and have been obsessing over upgrading from the R to the R5 or A7Siii, the latter of which I have a ton of experience with. This has basically confirmed for me that I'll be buying the A7Siii to pair with my Canon glass and Tilta wireless follow focus. Thank you, again!
As a Canon shooter I agree 100% with your review and conclusions... My feelings are not hurt as I am only interested in facts... Of course I wish it was different but it is what it is. This is NOT a wedding filmmaker camera because of the recovery times required to film. I have a R5 and I am keeping it because I also got it for stills (outstanding) and for occasional video. Not for weddings for sure. I also have the luxury of having a cinema camera for "real" video work,,, So from a Canon fanboy thanks for the honest real time review
Thanks Bryan!
Anybody who buys a mirrorless camera that's photocentric like the R5 to shoot wedding videos must be nuts. With that said, I personally know 2 wedding photogs who have so far shot 4 weddings combined with the R5 and have had no issues doing photos and a LOT of video as well.
As soon as watched your prediction/review video on the R5- I canceled my pre-order because of the overheating and now watching this video- I am so glad I did. Thank you so much Matt!
You should have... Cause Matt's keeping his R5.
Nice review as always Matt. Although the conclusion: "You can not rely on they video as a professional filmmaker" completely leaves out professional hybrid shooters who want to shoot excellent stills at 45mpx and 1080p 24p and 1080p 120fps at high mb/s. The R5 is a best of video production camera at those specs AND a beast of photography camera. Its just not an 8K RAW/4K HQ/4K60p production camera, and frankly, I don't know what kind of wedding videographer would be interested in shooting a wedding ceremony entirely in 8K Raw unless they were shooting with the C500mk ii before and felt there wasn't enough resolution! LOL! The 8K is a novelty for that special shot you really need to zoom in on. That's few and far in between. Best would be to dedicate one of the custom modes to 8K RAW, one to 4K60P, and the rest of the time stay at 4K 24 and 1080 120p. That's how I see it... but what do I know... I preordered two A7siii 's! LOL!
The entire problem seems to be the CF Express card heavily bottlenecks this camera's capabilities. And i'm sure the software is designed to be conservative in protecting against overheating the CF cards as to not damage them. I plan on doing my own test to see if switching cards frequently or if directing airflow towards the card slots when its off boosts recovery time.
There are videos of test done - in which removing the cards and plugging into an external recorder eliminates ALL heating problems even in 8K. So your hunch in on the money!
Exactly. The C300mkIII (which also shoots on CFexpress cards) constantly emits hot air from its cooling vents and the cards also get extremely hot after use. Although they're very different cameras, they're not that far off in terms of processing (codecs & frame rates) so I fail to see how Canon opted for the R5's build without a proper cooling system in place rather than something closer to the S1H.
Hi matt, interesting test, i just got an r5 to test - new firmware - and i have 4k 60 all-i only available on cfexpress card , and same but IPB on sd card. tomorrow i'll get a Cfexpress and i'm curious to test the time to overheat 4k120 and 4k 60 HQ, beside 8k wich is less relevant anyway. thanks. keep going
Sony A7siii for the win.
Good but this is not a Professional Workers TOY Sorry CANON Sony is Eating Your LUNCH Again
So is this pretty much the case with all hybrid cameras to date? I'd like to shoot a wedding this way with my xt4, but I also know that's probably asking for trouble, unless I go down to 1080p. I'd still be curious to see how it compares heat wise. Seems like we need a big breakthrough in either heat dissipation or having the cameras produce less heat. It has to happen eventually, right?
Since my tripod doesn't pan as smoothly as I like, I leave the stabilization on. It at least eliminates the jerks and allows me to gently carry the tripod and move while ensuring continuous recording. This overheating issue seems to be endless! Just film in 1080p LOL.
Ydidnt Yoy Just Rent the Camera then Do ThiS vIDEO Y WASTE 3900 USD
The most honest review we will ever have. Thanks Matt. A7siii here we come!
Best video on this camera, Canon should be ashamed of putting out a product like this! Go for the A7S Mark 3
Canon fans be like: Who needs 4K anyways, the 1080p looks good enough. You can barely see a difference.
And yes, these are the same people who were hyping 8K before we knew about the overheating.
This comment is dead on. In a few months when Canon’s marketing $$$ come through we’ll see “Why we were all WRONG about the R5” by all of the Canon “creators” on the same day. Same exact thing we’ve seen with the 6Dmkii, the EOS R, and the RP. Like clockwork.
@@joenicolette Yes, I noticed that too. They all trashed EOS R on the cropping in 4K and said upscaling HD is just as good. Its rationalizing a vendor's inability to provide a usable feature.
However there are many other wedding on the internet that look pretty darn good. Nothing beats talen and skill.
The entire concept that all people who use a brand are a monolith is just tribalism.
Sony fans be like: My 4K30 overheats in 20 mins but probably user error... oh and 4K60? What's 4K60? Sony hasn't ever given us that so we don't need it. 4K120? LOL, never. Maybe in late 2020... and 12 MP is good enough for instagram!
Fuju fans be like: 4k60 overheats in 15 minutes and it's a cropped sensor, but that's all we need.
Panasonic fans be like: 4k60 is good enough, nobody needs 4K120 or reliable autofocus... manual focus is good enough, and I can fake 120 in post.
People who buy photo cameras like the R5 to shoot video are dumb and only have themselves to blame.
Who buys this camera to take pictures? Me! I'm a pro photographer and the R5 is a PHOTO CAMERA, NOT A VIDEO CAMERA. In fact, it's probably the best high res full frame camera you can buy right now (better than an A7RIV which can only do basic 4K and still overheats). Only idiots would buy an R5 for video. "Glorified EOS R"... excuse me, I have an R and it can't do full frame 4K... the R5 can. Additionally the R doesn't have dual card slots, or the best AF tracking in the world... nor does it have 45 MP photos at 14.5 stops dynamic range.
That 4K "line skipped" is still better than the 4K on the R or A7III. Anybody who bought a mirrorless camera and wants to be a pro videomaker has only themselves to blame. LOL. I've been a pro photographer for 15 years, and I'd be just as dumb to buy an A7SIII to use it for that. I had 12 MP back in 2007, and no way I'd go back to that.
Up until a month ago, 4k 120 didn't even exist on ANY mirrorless camera. Nor did 8K. Period.
How did pro wedding videographers make out prior to 4 weeks ago? Oh yeah, they shot 1080, or 4K 30. Or they have cinema cameras.
For what it's worth the R5 is less affected by extreme hot temps like in Texas and Florida than say, the 12 MP A7SIII.
Major fail from Canon😅🤣🤦🏻♂️
Ever since the 8k was announced on this camera, my thought was "I'm never going to use this, but I'm looking forward to what that means for the 4k capabilities!"
Bunch of wedding shooters are fucked LOL. Some people need to level up as an artist in their craft and get a Ninja or an actual VIDEO camera. Great review by the way. I still have mines coming and ordering the A7S3 and C500 MARK II
ENDEAVOR!!!
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I have an A7 and A7R2 with the best Sony GM primes. Waited forever for the disappointment that turned out to be the S3. Switched to an R5 and have been very happy (prior to the A1 being available). I do not film weddings. Only family. Images with the Canon are amazing. This video is old and two major Canon firmware updates have occured.
"Who buys this camera to take pictures?" ...seriously?
Wait Canon makes photo cameras?
Matt WhoisMatt Johnson edgy
This is a much, much clearer review than other youtubers especially from a wedding videographer like you. Cheers!
A wedding is one of the most demanding video filming task. Also remember tests you am have to do before the shoots
I've never seen Matt so mad! Glad he is being honest.
I’m curious if using an external recorder like the ninja V changes anything with the heat issues.
Yeah I had the same question.
It does, check out No Life's video. He recorded 4K HQ for 2 hours until the battery died.
@@findingjoe You're limited to the life of the battery when shooting with an external recorder; the same as any other camera. By the way, I shot a wedding with this camera yesterday.
@@MauriceCovingtonvideographer How did you go?
I LOVE DETAILS and Specs! Thanks for getting in depth about this camera. You and Gerald are my GO TO channels for the details to remove doubts 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Thank you!
Man, try shooting in Arizona! It’ll be consistently over 110° every day this entire week🥵
P.S. You may have just saved me a bunch of money. I probably will have to switch to Sony after this video. What are some good alternate cameras that are on the same level as the R5? I’m wanting to get a great camera for long form UA-cam talking head content.
Appreciate this - but I have several issues with the findings and commentary of this video. (Note: I got all my RF gear and expect to get my R5 in the next couple of days). 1. "Who buys this camera to shoot photos?" - Are you kidding me?!? It's got amazing face and animal tracking, fantastic IBIS (adding at least 3 stops), 40 MPs, and an amazing set of advanced lenses. Why would you NOT buy this to shoot still photos? It's sharpness, color fidelity and ease of operation are unbeatable. 2. "You shouldn't rely on this camera to shoot a full-day wedding". Agree, but no one would. If you want to shoot a full days video, why would you get a photo camera to the game? Rent a Canon XA50 or something like that. This is a photo camera with the added ability to shoot amazing quality bursts of video, or extended video in HD/30. Works fine for me.
I really wanted this camera to work. But I can no longer defend Canon. This is not the first time they disappoint with cameras. But it really bothers me some people calling themselves reviewers are talking about this camera but are not being objective. They said things like “ if the Camera overheats at 8k or 4K 120 don’t use it” or they said thing to justify why you should buy it when is clear this is not a professional camera. If can’t freely use 4K 120 frames or 60,24 then what the point of this camera? I understand 8k having a limit but 4K 120 and all the other 4K options overhearing as well....this is not a good product. Then, is even worse when Sony presents the same camera but different MP and no 8k and no overheating issues. If another camera with similar specs exists without overheating, then Canon has no excuse to do the same. This was my last straw with Canon and this toxic relationship has come to an end. For the first time, after using canon over 10 years I’m thinking about switching to Sony, which I never thought I would do.
I'm still shooting weddings in 1920 by 1080. Honestly what attracts me more to the R5 or R6 is not the 4k or 8k modes, it's the IBIS! But I'm still going to wait a bit before getting the R6, which is the camera I'm looking into.
kind of getting sick and tired of youtubers making videos about r5 over heating. YES IT OVERHEATS EVERYONE. There's a clear table to show how long you can film on each mode. So it doesn't matter if you're filming weddings, your mums birthday, your sons football match, doesnt matter, THERES A LIMIT. Yes i have the r5 and knew about every aspect of the camera just like most of the people who actually buy it. Just had enough common sense to realize you can't film a damn wedding with it.
excellent video Matt!!!!! thanks for sharing. I am a SONY user, but i have seen that FOR PHOTO this camera is GREAT to be fair. Thanks for an extensive review!!!!! God bless
The R5 does not overheat. Canon did not invent a super insulator that shields the camera from external heat. Frankly, that’s just silly, as there are tear down videos and the body is merely magnesium with a aluminum heat sink.
So what’s really happening? Canon has deliberately coded the firmware to instruct the camera not to record beyond a certain amount of time. They did this to force users to buy their cinema cameras for video. Your test actually confirm this. The cool down time cannot be sped up. Even freezing the cameras does nothing to speed recovery. Removing the lens, opening the battery and port doors while freezing does nothing to speed recovery time. This is not because Canon is using an insulator stolen from aliens... it’s because there is a timer in the firmware that prevents the cameras from operating normally until a predetermined amount of time has elapsed. It’s really that simple.
Canon, just like they removed 24p and CLog from other models, has chosen to cripple this body. Worst still, and perhaps most unforgivable, is the fact that the HDMI port on the R5 supports 8K @30p Raw output... but Canon choose not to enable it.
best review!
I'm in a great dilemma: I have a 5D Mark 4 and a 6D Mark 1. I need and upgrade for a camera capable of 4K 60fps (120 would be ideal, but 60 can solve my needs). As a long time canon user, I'm been thinking about the R6 or R5, but the overheating problem made me stop and take the time to think about my options. Sony would be the obviously choice, but all my lenses are Canon and I intent to keep the 5d Mark 4 as my main photo camera and second video camera, so more money for glass. Blackmagic 6k Pro would be my other option, but it lacks a good autofocus and pictures. Dilemmas, dilemmas...
Well that made my mind up. I will not be buying this camera. I think I may go with the C70, even though it’s a couple thousand more. The cinema line cameras don’t over heat and I have filmed a few weddings already with the c100 mark ii that I rented over and over again. I’m really looking forward to OWNING(for the first time) a camera that’s not too heavy, has built in ND filters, can film in 4K 60 and not over heat! You are probs my favorite reviewer Matt! Thank you!
What is Fahrenheit? Did you Americans don't know metrics? (funny fact: Fahrenheit is actually a German word)
Fortunately when we ordered our R5 the intended use was a gimbal camera. We always use a monitor when shooting on a gimbal, so we switch out the smallHD for a Ninja V, and voila. 4K60p all day, no issues!
Watching this knowing I’m not even close to buying something like this. I’m just happy I can record 1080 on my sl2 lol
Ever heard of recording with the Atomos Ninja? ...Saves the R5 from Overheating and you can record for Hours in 4k HQ and all-i etc...try it
It would still overheat in 4k24p HQ, which is his main video format.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube I understand that my friend, and by the way...I Subscribe to Matt WhoisMatt Johnson's Videos because I learn a lot from them and he is a great person too, so I am trying to Demonize what he is trying to put across...just interjecting that's all.....So, We have tested it in 4k HQ for more than 4.5 hours with the Atomos Ninja V and it actually works, we just let it run...we were using the V-mount battery which can last forever, just about....
But, all I can say it that this Camera can only be used in Short busts, and as a B Cam...Though, I still have hope that if one plans ahead carefully, you can use it as the A Cam because of the High quality in 8K file downSampled. I love what the Sony A7siii can do over the R5 without those limitations, But, I am a Die'hard Canon Basket case. God forgive Me
The overheating issue on the R5 has been recently solved by recording to an external recorder (i.e. Ninja V) instead directly to the internal SD cards. Apparently this gives you around 4 hours of continuous 4k HQ mode and faster recovery time as well.
So When I spend $4k on a camera I still have to spend another grand just to get it to work? Why wouldn't I just buy a different camera?
@@Westwardeast even if u tack on another $1k for an external recorder, what other camera will give u what the R5 can for both stills and video?
Sony As7iii? Only good for video
Panasonic GH5 or S1H? Autofocus sucks
@@jtdiddy3160 if you are buying this camera and setting it up with an external recorder then there is a super slim chance that you are an entry-level creator or you do just as much photo as you do video. If you actually need the 4K 120 or HQ and a 45MP censor you hands down have a stills centric camera and a film-centric rig.
@@Westwardeast i'm stepping up from a Canon M50 and I consider myself a beginner still. But I have the Ninja V bc i wanted to maximize the features of the R5 or As7iii. I haven't decided yet which one I'm getting
@@jtdiddy3160 Man the best advice I can give you as someone who is a professional and self-taught is to not waste your money on either of those cameras!!! I say that with serious care for you. Spend your money on something like the GH5, the X-T4, or A7III. Specs and numbers do little for you in the real commercial world if you don't have the experience to use them. I'm sure you are a talented person but invest in glass and learning the craft. No R5 or A7SIII is going to get you paid or make you a better filmmaker or photographer.
Invest in yourself, not a camera body! I run an inhouse media dept with two A7III and have written $10k contracts with very happy clients at the end, all with an A7III and a sigma 35.
Matt you said you can not shoot a wedding with the R5 that is not true. If a person wanted the R5 before of the full frame 4K instead of the cropped 3k in the R, a wedding or anything else would be no problem. So I disagree with you there. Also, did you ever look at recording 4K HQ externally. The R5 has ~ unlimited record time. A lot of manufactures restrict their cameras to recording certain things externally. I think is Canon had said ( in marketing ) down sample 4K HQ externally we would be having the same conversation. Just my .02
R5 can be recommended for wedding photographer, right?? (Maybe best in market) .. For wedding film-making, Canon cinema camera should be right candidate without overheat issue ..
No question that Canon went about the marketing for this camera poorly but as a professional in my business having at least two of everything has always been my motto. Nothing else in this form factor will do the high quality options the R5 does. Either get two R5’s or the A7Siii for its 4k30/60/120 and to save having to buy Sony lenses use an EF adaptor for canon glass and use the R5 for stills, 4K HQ with an external recorder and 8K internal for video with option of 35MP still frame grabs. Not to mention incredible IBIS. Realistically nobody needs all this but why not offer what it can do. Minus lens costs your in 9 grand for both bodies. It’s not chump change but it’s your business and you can bill appropriately for offering the best quality images (skill aside:) This is a pro piece of gear doing things others can’t at the moment with obvious limitations based on spec. If we want the best for our clients these are the limitations of our time. We are either a professional or we are not.
Canon EOS R5 is not designed to film a wedding. If you were a wedding photographer you would be Fine. Get a film camera!. I did a wedding with 2x 70ds and EOS R and Panasonic GH3 but DSLRs are not ideal to video weddings. They are fine for photography but not for video. The EOSR5 is a stills camera with a few extra video perks. For very short video it would be fine. This is NOT a film camera and no body from canon or Panasonic that I have had has been able to go above 29 minutes which is a real pain in the ass. the batteries run out, the memory cards run out. It's a nightmare! To try to be a videographer and a photographer is too much overkill. I should concentrate on one thing at a time.
Let's be real about something...
1 : The A7Siii blown the R5
2 : This is a stills camera,not video. Wrong advertising
3 : If you need a videocamera buy a videocamera
Filming a wedding with R5, no more a problem since this week!
Here is my new R5 hack from this Sunday the 6th of September.
It works with Canon R5 and R6 and with firmware V1.0 and V1.1
It do not lose data, do not force you to open the camera, it's simple and easy.
www.visionrouge.net/canon-r5-overheating-hack-solved/
It also clearly shows that all these overheat excuses are completely fabricated and an simple flag setup with a time stamp difference is responsible for bricking your camera, on the recording time and cooling time.
So simple to activate that it's embarrassing to keep call this an overheating issue.
Wow. This is the absolute best review of this camera’s actual capabilities. I’ve been looking for a good camera to film short clips of my hikes. I use the iPhone now but want something with higher quality and good IBIS. Some of my hikes can last 3-4 hours (and also in the hot Texas sun sometimes!) so I definitely want something that will last and not overheat. It’s unbelievable to me that a camera company would release a camera boasting about it’s 4k and 8k abilities, and then basically make those settings unusable for most professionals due to overheating. It sounds like they weren’t really ready to release a camera with those options yet after all - at least until they can resolve the overheating issues. So disappointing. Thanks again for this very detailed real-world review! (New subscriber. 🙂)
Sell it Matt please, and get one a7SIII.
So disappointed by Canon ones again. Going for the Lumix S1 or the a7IV hoping to have news of it this year, please SONY!
TAKE MY MONEY hahaah
Thanks for making this Matt! Started doing weddings on Canon DSLRs (til I moved to Cinema cameras) and even THOSE dslrs would overheat out in outdoor hot day weddings at 1080! So, unsurprising this system would too at higher rez! Great channel, great info. -- also, how do you not die shooting weddings outside in Texas heat?? :D
Well, the Atomos Ninja V is crucial. Take out both cards and it runs in 4k30 HQ indefinitively. Also 4k60 should run indefinitively with an Atomos. And for ceremonies, you need the Ninja anyways to supercede the record limit of 29:59s.
Hi Matt - you said you normally shoot short B-Roll clips - but most of what you showed here was long recordings until the camera overheated - like everyone else. I see you recommended the A7Siii - However as a hybrid photo/video person - I cannot take a 12MP camera seriously.
So hopefully - the A74 does a better job at a lower price.
Thanks for the video though. I think it is a bit biased, but it looks like the bias was based more from that overheating frustration.
Have you checked it out now with the firmware updates?
Another video will be great.
Adios
Thank you! I hope you can do a similar review on the A7S3 since it does seem to be effected by outside temps. As a Florida wedding videographer, it's a huge consideration.
Planning on it! Texas weather is very similar to Florida's :)
Nothing beats skill and talent. There are many wedding videos on UA-cam now. Kinda short sited to think that EVERY wedding photographer shoots in the same exact way. A more accurate way of stating it, would be to say, YOU don't know how to use the camera without it overheating. Simple. Other people do however. Suggest conversing with your peers and see how they are doing it. The warning doesn't mean it's overheated at or past it's 104 F threshold. Get a FLIR or equal temp measuring device and stay within you published tolerances.
(Sorry) Matt WhoisMatt Johnson.. i bought the R5 for fotografic reasons, to answer your question (who would...?) and have mine August 3th. it is a great still fotografic camera. for people doing video the whole ergonomics of a black magic may be a better solution .. no still cameras for serious video shooting !
They should recall the R5 and try to fix the overheating issues. It would be so good if it didn’t overheat in 4K HQ, but if it can’t even do that it’s practically unusable
This is NOT the complete picture.
Your review is not complete.
Filming with an external recorder would totally work for a long wedding day. Also the 10bit codecs would be perfect for editing with an external recorder.
The R5 is the perfect photo camera and with an external recorder becomes near perfect video camera.
Only internal shooting is suited for short videos only.
And btw only an amateur would go and shoot a wedding with a single camera. Backup camera is absolutely necessary. I’ve shot over 100 weddings and never used only 1 camera.
If you have 2 R5s you could use one of them in the 24p mode and use the second only for Broll.
Also another point you didn’t mention is the 24p crop mode that is oversampled and also shoots forever without overheating. Of you care for ultimate sharpness and what to shoot a wedding you can relay on it.
Therefore - your review is not honest. You should make a follow up video to paint the complete picture.
I wish I saw this video prior to buying my R6. Today's wedding 90 degree outside ceremony and B roll. It shut down during the ceremony. Luckily I had another camera running but ended up a shooting 1080p with that camera. Even with new firmware update