HOW TO HIDE YOUR CHEST (without a binder) 💅
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0:00 - how to hide your chest without a binder!
1:25 - if a regular bra is your only option
3:00 - layering & clothing choices make a huge difference
7:46 - compression tops & sports bras are kinda the same
10:15 - binders (and why I wear a zip-up binder)
17:34 - trans tape
19:19 - no posture is bad posture
20:15 - like & subscribe!
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IRIS i loved this, tysm for making vids like this, i wish i'd had creators like you when i was younger! i'm really new to minimizing my chest but have had big boobs since i started developing lol (i'm a 36F), so i've learned a lot. lots of advice below (sorry for the essay!)
first, for people with larger band and cup sizes, it's really helped to be realistic. there's no possible way i can minimize the chest the same way others can (which i think can apply to everyone - our bodies are all different). you're always going to be able to see my boobs at this size (perhaps they could be minimized more with a binder, i haven't tried one!), so i try not to get too upset about flattening 100% and find other ways to feel gender euphoria.
something not mentioned in the regular bras section are minimizer bras. these have been around foreverrrr and are really popular with larger chested cis women, and tbh they've changed my life. i wear one from vanity fair, but it reduces my side profiles a ton (by about 1-2 cup sizes, enough for me who's been used to having large boobs to go omg) because it compresses while also separating boobs out to the side (rather than pushed up as seen with other wired bras).
for larger-chested people (at least in my experience), bralettes (or bras that don't have underwire that AREN'T compression bras like sports bras) tend to make the chest look larger. this is because larger boobs weigh more and therefore sag more (and create more of that weight at the bottom that iris mentioned). i own shapermint bralettes which i love because they're so comfy, but after the first or second wear, their initial compression stretches out and the natural shape of boobs sort of takes over lol. the minimizer bra is surprisingly more comfy because it provides critical support (with the very thin, flexible underwire) but also keeps the boobs more "up" in a good way (sort of what Iris was saying when adjusting the shoulder straps).
i also minimize with clothing, though oversized clothing alone won't hide my size of chest. surprisingly, sometimes it feels more minimizing to wear a tighter tank-top with a baggy button-up or jacket. hugely recommend high-neck, broader sleeved tank-tops. from the side you'll still see boobs! but the combo of tight and loose helps feel more masculine to me while retaining some of my other shape. big jackets/things that emphasize shoulders can reduce the impact of the chest too. structured clothing items as iris said are my go-to.
not chest-related clothing, but emphasizing the lower half of your silhouette can help. baggy pants and larger shoes can de-emphasize the chest. adding lines to the lower half of the body (with a pants chain for example, or if your pants have funky seams/pockets/zippers) can also help.
posture is kind of a problem with big boobs because i already have chronic back issues and larger chested people can be predisposed to these so as a person with chronic pain plssss be careful slouching. for me i'd rather my chest be more visible than cause chronic issues in the future. so instead of thinking about slouching i think about how i carry myself. how i stand/how i distribute my weight, how i walk etc matters more for me.
finally i also like to accessorize/think about gender euphoria outside of my chest. rings and dark nail polish make me feel amazing. my haircut also makes 99% of the difference (kind of like a longer version of iris' hair hahaha, also idk why but darker hair feels nice for me). even shopping in the men's section helps, even if the men's clothing still shows my chest.
hope that helps the larger-chested folks!
THANK YOU!!! this comment is amazing and enlightening thank you so much for taking the time to write it out ❤️
@@irisolympia waitttt I’m crying that you saw this, your content means sm to me! 🥹💕 ty for all you do!
THAT is what a minimizer does?! I've seen those on the rack, but never considered one, because I was told that the only difference was "less support." Good heavens... Thank you!
@@ArynChris YES I wish I’d gotten one sooner! To me it’s a really low-key way to compress the chest, super underrated for people who can’t get access to other options!
Thanks for this
I thought I was the only one who felt uncomfortable with the words breasts or boobs. It feels like a curse😭
fr like help
Fr😭
NO FRRR
right, same with the guys genitalia 😭 I don't know why but the accurate words for the private parts is just icky to me
So tru tho!! Same for periods for me, I hate that word or menstrual cycle, it just makes me so uncomfortable and dysphoric. My therapist suggested "shark week" as a substitute and I love that, it's basically the only term I use for it now lol
Me not intending to hide my chest: this is highly interesting 🤔
Fr 😭🙏
Same lol
Me, a cis dude : I wonder how I can hide my chest
Same haha. I'm just trying to learn to understand my friends more
Fr 😅
I just straight up asked my mom can you buy me a binder for my birthday but lied about it being for cosplaying unless I’m cosplaying myself
Edit:I didn’t except it to get this much likes
Edit: dude why does this have 5.3k likes I’ve never got this much likes on a comment before thanks
Good luck
I GOT MY BINDER THE SAME WAY LOL
DUDE IM GETTING MINE THE SAME WAY 😭
I’m gonna try for halloween, ‘becoming my brother’ as a joke
Oh my god, epic big brain move right there
respect !
"Feeling gender good" that's one of the most relatable lines ever.
I'm going to use that now.
Me too
i literally already do lol
I read this exactly as they said it-
This video made me realize how DUSTY my room is 💀
It's not even noticeable idfk what you're talking about 😂
@@imatiredpotato after they pointed it out i can’t unsee the fact that its lowk snowing in there 😭
what brand were those headphones they’re so pretty
@@lavendersage444looks like marshall to me
Dusty room people unite✋
I have top surgery on Monday but i still watched this without thinking about it 🤣
Ahh congrats! I hope it goes well ❤❤
omg good luck!! & congratulations ✨
Hey, how’s it going? It’s been 3 months now.
@@5oakedpawz please try these hacks, then binders if they're not enough, and don't do top surgery until you're at least 18! it's quite a difficult surgery with a long recovery process, so don't rush into it
@@paprikapringless9526 i want a flat chest, id sell my soul for one. I also am saying my mother wouldnt support me thats why i cant get a binder, and these hacks did some stuff, but not a lot.
I'm a cis man, but I want to use this for character design and storytelling in the future
Update: I'm enby (I think) lol
Thanks for learning more about the trans community ❤ good luck with writing your stories.
I wish you good look on writing accurate characters! Just a reminder if you do write a transmasc character that trans people can feel dysphoric and euphoric from different things, so maybe include some more underrepresented experiences like dysphoria from your height or hair texture for examples or euphoria from a specific style or mannerism
Ooooohhhh
you’re so rad 🤘
Ayyyyyy, same!!
My sister is transgender,I got him a binder for his birthday he cried and said thank you.
your brother*
@@average_adam3713
He said he still wants to be called my sister
@@British_pvp12soooo “she” then?
@@FIF_GikisCord no he still wants to be a he/him
@@British_pvp12 Ohh I see then! Congrats to him for coming out. Sorry if my question was perhaps a bit rude-
Have a lovely day
Thank you sm! I'm not trans but I'm very insecure about my chest and scared of being sexualized while I'm still a minor, this really helped! :3
I'm sorry you have to go through that. I've had a similar issue for YEARS (since I was 6, I'm now 15. Go figure.) And I'm a little weary on if I'm trans or not. (I probably have internalized transphobia 💀)
I've had issues of being sexualized as well, and I hope your able to apply these to enjoy your childhood AS A CHILD and be comfortable in your own skin
This is the exact same way I feel. I'm 13 but I slouch a lot to try and minimize the looks, specially because I do feel a bit sexualized if I don't so my mom always gets after me for slouching.
I don't know if I'm trans. I love all feminine/girly things and clothes and stuff but I still wish I was a guy. Though what I've learned is that I can't really wear the clothes I want to before I transition (if I ever do) because I'll just be a girl. I don't feel a lot of gender dysphoria, only sometimes, though I've always been a bit insecure about my chest specifically especially when my mum or friends comment on it (even if it's positive). I'm sorry you have to go through that but do whatever makes you feel better about yourself !!!
@@despinaldl yeah you 100% can be a guy and be girly. I’m a trans guy and I was super girly as a kid and I still like girly things like wearing dresses and skirts. But I also want to be a guy and wear clothes, (girly or not) the way a boy does.
And yeah the “I want long hair and to wear girly clothes, but then I’ll just be a girl” feeling is so real. For now tho I just have medium length hair and wear a mix of boyish and girly clothes, whatever I feel comfortable with that day.
@@animefan2723 sameee I they just make uncomfortable 😢
Bringing up getting jealous is so real. I have 3 NB people in my band class and the amount of envy I have for their flat chest is just shocking. I thought their chest was naturally flat until they wore different type of clothes and their chest showed really clearly. As someone who also NB I’m trying to learn to present my chest like them.
i literally have a binder but im still here because it does nothing to my d-cup ass
one of my besties has a SUPER small chest and im so jeleous cus I developed pretty early, while my friend wishes she had a larger chest and ive been like, many times, 'Wanna swap? if only.'
@@Th3.H0n3y.K4t i have the same with my sister 😭 its so bad bcs like i have probably twice the size of her chest and like we share the same genes why couldnt that be meee
I’m the oldest in my grade, so naturally I’m one of the majority who grew a chest and while I do have binders, I just don’t want to take them off constantly because at the end of the day I do sports and I take forever (I went to the bathroom to take it off during lunchtime and my friends said I took forever lol)
Tysm im cis but switch between fem and masc energy a lot so i think this will help for my more recent outfits ^_^
💆🏻✨ glad i can provide
you might be a demigirl, try looking into that :) just a suggestion, labels make describing things easier which is the only reason I'm saying this, not trying to label you myself.
Same :)
@JRTO_ I'm NB, newly out and not familiar with this term. I love expanding my horizons and awareness, so thank you for adding this info here. 😊
Oh yha me too, cis but i hate having boobs. They suck
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honestly I was expecting you to stop at "I am a fashion" and I still would've accepted those credentials 😂
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As a person who has put trans tape on, DON'T fucking put tattoo wrap under ttape. Just don't. No. Trans tape is made to stick to skin, and it's not the tape's fault if you rip it the fuck off and you get blisters and literally rip your skin off. Use olive oil, use soap, use whatever, and most importantly, wear it for a long time (like a week or so) because that's when it'll start peeling off your body on it's own.
TRANS TAPE IS MEANT AS A LONG TERM WEARING/BINDING SOLUTION, and that means that it's specifically designed to stay for a long time (again, around a week or so), and that means that the adhesive will weaken with time, making lotions, soaps and oils more effective on it.
I'm sorry for this rant, but I see so many binding misconceptions every day, and have seen so many since the moment I started living as my true self that I get annoyed.
Also the "general regulations for binding (with a binder)" are INCREDIBLY generalistic. So generalistic that they might as well be considered wrong.
Just so you know:
1) start binding for only a couple hours a day, maybe even less if you're not used to tight-fitting clothes.
- if you feel any pain or deep uncomfortable feeling, then take it off and I advice finding a new owner for the binder.
2) Find the time where you start being uncomfortable, that's when you'll take your chillaxing, juicy, binding rest.
3) Start extending your binding time if you feel that you want to or need to.
4) Profit.
Also, if you wear for more than 4 hours, take breaks every hour or so anyways. Your body gets used to the binding sensation and it will be more difficult finding and feeling uncomfortable sensations in your body.
Also also, you CAN work out in binders IF YOU KNOW YOUR BINDER WELL, just take more frequent brakes, listen to your body and test your body limits, but not too hard that you end up hurting yourself.
noted about the wrap! I definitely agree about listening to your body when it comes to starting to bind-the guidelines always seemed like longer hours than I personally could stand.
Got nerve pain, due to binding here 🖐 couldn't agree more with this comment! 👌
Hi, I have a question. "if you wear for more than 4 hours, take breaks every hour or so anyways." did it mean doing a break every hour after you begin to bind if you're planning on doing it for a longer period of time than 4 hours, or is it not necessary to take breaks before the start of ur 5th hour in a binder? Sorry if the phraising's bad my english is at A2 level :')
Also by any means do you know similar rules for bralettes with tight straps (if I called that right) and sports bras? Will I be safe if I use that instead of a binder and apply the same rules as the ones that you recommend for an actual binder? If you can't help with any info here that's fine obviously I just really want to know what is safe
I would add that if you want to swim or work out in a binder, go up 1 size, for safety.
As a cis man i do not know why this was recommended to me but i just wanna say that your style is AWESOME ive been wanting to buy t shirts with that sort of fit for the longest time but not sure how to look for them?? Also i love that spiked necklace too omigosh
Anyways, sorry for going off topic
How about you try looking up y2k, grunge, band, ... shirts? Maybe that might help
For anyone who is worried about getting trans tape off, baby oil is your best friend. You can get a small bottle and use it to soak the tape thoroughly and leave it for a few minutes. Additionally, as someone with a larger chest, it's not very effective at flattening, but you can work out in it, and wear it for long periods of time, which is a huge plus for me. Hope this helps!
This is actually super useful, thank you! I had been just ripping it off before lol
It's also great for chiropractor visits (so you're more flexible and available, for example if you need acupuncture), and getting tattooed!
a tip for those binding whilst plus sized: i found using trans tape on the bottom of the binder really stops it from rolling up and creating a nasty sensory experience!! one horizontal strip with a couple of vertical ones on each side to secure it and you’re done :)
oh my god thank you!!! im a bit chubby so it always rolls up
I just want to say that I worked really hard on this video and I really hope that it lives up to your expectations and is helpful at least in SOME way, but if it isn’t I’m sorry I couldn’t share what you need.
In my experience, my chest always looks flatter on camera than in person, so please keep this in mind when you watch other creators as well. I know we play the comparison game a lot especially with gender but I want y’all to be kind to yourselves about your bodies and what they are and aren’t like.
Looking a specific way can be extremely gender affirming, but it’s not the only way that you can affirm your innermost self. Be the person that can take care of the child you once were. Find ways to be there for them.
Your video is so well done. Its really well organised very useful i will try all of your tip I think and that is a really good video I think a lot of people need it. Thank you for all of your great contents ! =)
I am so glad I found your video! Right now I'm feeling very dysphoric and thought a binder was the only option to deal with it. I am sure most of your tips will be helpful for me, especially considering that my chest is already not that big :)
I just found out about your channel and it's crazy how I've been struggling with gender dysphoria like a bitch for almost a year now yet it never occurred to me to seek guidance in youtube...
Long story short I'm soooo glad I found your channel. Thank you so much for all the care and hard work and attention you put into this.
I love the video, it's very helpful! I like how comprehensive it was, you didn't just do things like "wear baggy shirts" and roll credits lol. I really appreciated all of the nuanced points you brought up, and I will def be considering them in the future (tho I am a trans man so I'm binding almost daily, but the other tips are very helpful for when my 8 hours are up!).
On the chest thing tho, I always feel like we notice our OWN chests much more than other people do, which is why so many people comment about others' "flat" chests (even if they're not particularly flat). I've definitely had days where I'm not binding but I come out of the bathroom and my husband goes "wow you're so flat!" (his go to compliment on my appearance now cuz it makes me very euphoric lol). So even tho I definitely noticed that I wasn't binding, even someone who sees me daily cant always tell. I feel like it's a good reminder, as we often fall into the fallacy of "these people are seeing me so they MUST be noticing what I do about myself", when that's often not the case
I don't have the largest chest, but it's a bit larger. Things I've learned:
1. Maximize the cleavage to minimize the cleavage. If you have a garment that pushes them closer together-- even a smexy party shirt that you own for whatever reason-- put it on and then layer normal clothes on top of it. Tada! A monoboob is easier to disguise, plus now you have more room for your arms to move.
2. If you have a strong ratio between chest and waist, or waist and hip, lightweight open jackets (such as the classic plaid button-up shirt) are a good way to disguise that curve. They hang pretty much the same on all bodies, so people don't see what the sides of your torso are doing. Also good for obscuring arm size, shoulder size and shape, and in some cases chest curvature. Just make sure you're wearing one that's too thick to be clingy, but too lightweight to look like you're a kid in your dad's clothes.
3. Speaking of plaid! Complex visual patterns, ESPECIALLY that mix bright, dark, and medium colors, distract the human eye and obscure the shapes underneath. You'll notice a lot of complex floral patterns in plus-sized women's clothing, and a lot of complex plaids and detailed graphic designs in plus-sized men's, for this reason. Regardless of what you want to distract from, dark (especially black) clothing with a big multi-colored Thing To Look At does great. Plus, if you're still exploring your sense of identity and self-expression, having simple "base" clothing and experimenting with the distractions you wear on top can be very satisfying.
Great tips!
thank you for sharing!! ❤️❤️
About your first tip, I would also mention that it does work, but doing the opposite and pushing them as far away from each other as possible and also downwards helps a lot too
First one gives so many sensory issues thoughhh
@@WhyIsTheClosetDoorOpening Adding to this comment, be careful with pushing away and down as this can be damaging for your skin! From what I understood, my top surgeon said that pressing your chest flat from the nipple into the muscle is better for your skin and less damage makes it easier for surgery. (Plus it gives a shape more in alignment with a perceived male chest)
Best wishes and happy binding!
video turned out pretty cool! to add to the sports bra section, i personally have one where i sized down and if you're gonna do that, definitely treat it like a binder (in means of no hard exercise, no sleeping in it, max. 8 hours, etc.) ! i have one from h&m that's extremely similar to the one in this video but most likely cheaper! :)
good to know!!!! thanks for sharing ❤️
Thx! I'm trying to figure out if I'm genderfluid and I also do wrestling so that's very important for me and others to know!
I have a transmasc oc, and I have been thinking for weeks about what he could comfortably wear for the ✨training montages✨ cause I don't thing a full on binder would be comfortable to fight in, and this video bring up things I didn't even think about. So thank you for assisting me in writing my baby boy/gen :}
yay!!
I too have a transmasc oc!! :0 what does he train/what's his weapon? mine does archery :]
@@rainbow.4976 My baby boi usually uses a spiked baseball bat that he bedazzled. He also does a LOT of swimming, which is expected if you have gills lol.
My Hazbin oc is also an FtM 😎
@@nonairishbishthat’s so cool woah
another thing i've heard a lot of ppl talk about (although haven't personally tried yet) is layering sports bras for more compression!! of course listen to your body, if it feels tight and uncomfortable don't force yourself to do it but it could be a nice alternative if you can't get a binder
other things that make me feel/look more masc are opting for low-waisted instead of high-waisted pants and also making your eyebrows a bit darker has been SUCH a game changer for me :^)
from my own past experiences i really do not recommend layering sports bras, it was really painful even when worn for short time periods and instead of flattening my chest it kinda just made it into one chunk
nah, get a binder slightly too big, just barely too big, barely... and it works just enough to flatten your chest without too much compression on your ribs, because it's a stiff fabric so y'know it just works.
Changing my Eyebrows with like tinted brow gel (I have a chi chi brand one that has fibres in it which is amazing btw) is 100% a game changer it just helps with face dysphoria
Cropping t-shirts has been saving me. Takes the chest curve away almost completely
yesssss
Hi! im a young FTM trans, and as soon as heard that black was good for hiding and also baggy was too, i immediately put on my black sweatshirt lmao (SUBWISHDJIDNSHDK IM DYING IVE NEVER FELT SO GENDER-NESS IN MY LIFE)
Edit: aaaa most replies under this are being so niceee ty 🥹
No male speaks like this 💀
@@lucat5211 your right, im not male! im female but thats my sex not my gender. i am a boy!
@@lucat5211 shut up NERD!!!!!!!!!!
@@lucat5211 anyone can speak however they please no matter their gender 💀
@@lucat5211 i dont want to be taken seriously, i do not care if you take me seriously. stop being an asshole.
I'm watching this to help my boyfriend who can't wear a binder because when he did his chest and back hurt for weeks, this helps a lot ^^
Aww that is a true good person folks!😢
get a binder slightly too big, just barely too big, barely... and it works just enough to flatten your chest without too much compression on your ribs, because it's a stiff fabric so y'know it just works. make sure theirs a little wiggle room. just a little. not too much. but just enough. i have one that would probably fit tightly on my older sister, or my aunt even, (just for size comparison really) and im only slightly smaller than them, but just make sure there's a little bit of wiggle room, and it still works with no problem
@@liammiller8112 we'll try that out! If that doesnt work were just gonna settle for trans tape lol
An add on to the layering. I EXIST off of flannel shirts. Layering as you said helps but also big patterns help to distract the eye from seeing your chest. (I’m not kidding I almost have the entire rainbow in flannels so I can put them over any shirt)
Where do you buy flannels? I need some for myself 🥲
I love ur channel as a pre-T guy cause its real helpful for my gender disphoria which seems to be worsening recently (no idea why :(Also love ur hair!!
thx for watching!!! 💌✨
Saaaaaaame but I'm also closted-
look in the mirror naked... it works better if you're really skinny... but just bask in how attractive you are and it feels better, cause it's like... damn, im hot... but it's also just getting comfortable with the way you look. it may feel a bit strange at first but that's why you keep looking.
Thank you for the video!
Gonna share a tip I personally use, as a midsize nonbinary person.
Something I really like for my chest is thick tank tops as an under layer. I deal with a lot of chest pain which leaves bras and sports bras(other than when I work out), a huge no-no for my own safety and comfort. So, I started going braless using thick tank tops instead!
I find myself way less dysphoric due to the fact it isn’t a bra, something about the fact I’m wearing one at all caused me more dysphoria than I knew! Yes I still see my chest, but knowing I’m not wearing a bra, I’m not on pain, helps a good deal.
I also find that sometimes they can help make a boxier shape, or other times help the chest and torso “blend” together more in a way, giving a smoother shape from the front. If I’m really dysphoric I’ll usually add a sports bra underneath it, and the thick fabric with typically hide the lines of the bra.
Like said this isn’t a great fix but it’s one I use and feel quite happy with! I didn’t want to parrot what’s already said in the video or comments, but there’s lots of other great tips that might work better for you!
this is a great tip!! thanks for sharing 💌
I do this too because of my breathing and chest pain issues. For anyone who's worried about how well passing you can be with this, please know that plenty of cis men (especially those with more loose skin) have breast-like chests too.
I have been on T for about 2 years, I am around 5'3 and of a more boxy build with a 42-43 inch bust and most people perceive me as a cisman even without tight binding.
Cheers!
18:18 as someone who tried Transtape and removed it for the first time last night: yes, I felt very sexy while wearing it. Being able to breathe normally was fantastic. Also, yes, the blisters are real, and I am now not binding at all because of them, so...I am going to try again, but it'll take a lot more trial and error, I think.
How are you removing the tape? I wear trans tape almost all the time and I don't get blisters. When I am removing the tape I fully soak it in regular cooking oil and it comes off quite easily.
Trans tape shouldn't leave blisters unless you take it off too soon I think?? Or without soap
drugstore baby oil is my go to for avoiding blisters. you shouldn’t need too much, just make sure you really rub it into the entire surface of the tape, let it soak for 10-15 minutes, then take the tape off suuuuper slowly. you can also try taking it off in the shower, with or without the oil, and that should also help! happy binding :)
I’m non-binary and want a binder so badly, but my parents don’t support it. I usually just do a few things to hide my chest.
1) I put bandages over my chest (on top of a sports bra) and tape it in place
2) I wear a lot of layers. I can wear a long sleeve shirt, T-shirt, and tank top all at once
3) I slouch a lot
I hope this helps someone out there. Being a teen with no support on being trans or non-binary is really hard. I know how it feel, but just know that you aren’t alone and people will be there to help you. Do whatever it is that makes you happy and comfortable.
dont use bandages
thanks you
@@finnik_23 dont use bandages
@@average_adam3713 i know that, im into medical stuff
@@finnik_23 i mean its not exactly medical its just common sense
meh I just take testosterone and went from B to A in 4 months.
Its kinda helps if you're comfortable with most of the effects
that's a major slay omfg
Wow lucky!!!
really useful video. as amab gonna see where I can do the opposite to this in some cases? one persons dysphoria can be another persons euphoria. keep up the good work !!
exactly!! thanks for watching 💌
Tip for getting chest is wearing bras with padding, as Iris said in the video padding is compression's enemy but it'll be your best friend 🙃
I'm not super experienced in increasing chest profile, but i would say a padded bralette or sports bra is probably a good bet. IME, the most important part of chest minimizing is shaping what you have to look more masculine/neutral, and I think the opposite should also be true. While I would usually bind/minimize with my chest pushed slightly outwards and upwards to give the appearance of pecs, you could do inwards using a bralette to give it a more "feminine" shape. You could also use a push up bra in a small cup size, where the bra would be doing the shaping for you. Hope this helps
I’m cis, but this helped me
I love dressing fem, but I’m somewhat insecure about how large my chest is. (36DDD) I know it’s not huge, but if feels like too much for me, back pain isn’t too bad either
It’s always super hard to find low-cut dresses or one-pieces in general that fit my chest and my body. Either my chest is spilling out (I’m not a fan of how it feels) or the dress fits my chest perfectly but it’s too baggy on the rest of my body
I just like to shrink the size a bit
The Line with the "i like my boobs the way they are, but I also hate them sometimes" is to relatable to me. As a 27 year old female I feel this SO damn much! I don't mind them, but sometimes I really wish they would be simply "out of the way" or not so noticable. And then there are some days (okay, most of the time) where I just don't feel "female" and like to hide behind big shirts and hoodies. I simply don't like to dress as feminine as some people would want me to and I actually don't care about "showing what I've got". Actually was called a male twice. Even got my boyfriend confused when he first saw me. I should be mad about this, but it's quite the opposite and I always have to laugh about it. I kinda like the fact that I can pull off the style if I want to by simply wearing something oversized and having the hood cover my hair. Don't know if this is normal or weird but most of the time I also don't care too much about it.
Missed the point of the video completely and got carried away once again. Whoops 😅 Posting this anyway because I need to learn to not let the feeling of "awkward anxiety" win and delete anything I wrote 🙈
I usually layer sports bras and wear baggy shirts
i want to bind so bad. like so bad. i’m trying to do my research so that when i can buy some on my own, i know what to get but until then, i just wear two sports bras (i’ve heard people say to wear one of them backwards but that makes it more hard to breathe imo)
this video was a very helpful guide. those recaps are going in my enby information google doc, and i am definitely coming back to this channel! thank you so much!! from a young enby ♡
Thank you for the tips on how to help with chest dysphoria :). I love your channel!
thanks for watching!!!
You helped me with my chest dysphoria
After 2021, GC2B's quality has taken a nosedive and hasn't been considered safe for binding anymore because of it.
My pre-2021 binders from GC2B are wonderful, and i got my last one (i only have 2) very close to when they were notably worse, and the difference in quality from my 2017 number is immense. You aren't imagining the drop in quality, GC2B is just like that now.
They did just release a new line tho. Have you tried the 2.0?
hey! i also have some clothing sensory issues, especially the thing you were talking about with when the fabric is too soft!! i definitely was intimidated when i tried transtape for the first time because of the sensory stuff and it took me a while to get comfy with it, but now trans tape is one of my fav options! just wanted to throw this in here for anyone else who is worried abt transtape w sensory issues :) (I'm also a trans guy so I wear it like almost everyday, it's important to be safe and take taping breaks! But yeah I use it all the time, it's a lifesaver)
I clicked on this on instinct even tho I had top surgery 5 weeks ago lmao. Still hasn't registered completely cuz I'm stuck in my post OP binder for a couple more days which feels similar to my now retired Spectrum binder. Great video tho, I could've really used this pre OP! Hope it reaches the people that need it 🙌
friendly reminder/tip: posture too can work better than binding, and also some ppl will have fully different expectations on how gender expression relates to gender - for example, i got misgendered whilst binding many times, but also got ppl calling me by he/him (right ones for me) even without binders, or even layers! just a thin, loose tank top, which has pretty wide “holes” (forgot the proper term 😭 sorry 😅😂), and also with a quite “droopy” fabric!
and another example is that many cis people get misgendered as well, even ones who arent necessarily “gender non-conforming”
also, a lot of it is tied to bs eurocentric ideals of how people “”should”” look like, which doesnt do anyone any good
obviously, all here for dressing however makes us feel better! just always good to keep these in mind, rly helps me find the line between gender euphoria and dysphoria from the type of dysphoria that’s only related to colonialist expectations - i personally used to dress and act mostly according to those, but now after top surgery and a few years on T, i’m finally feeling at home in my own body enough to let myself explore things that go against those colonial ideals of “masculinity”, like “feminine” aesthetics, acting “camp”, etc 🥰
AHH MY MOM SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BUY ME A BINDER SO THANK YOU
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I found and bought a sports top from a thrift store and it literally gets the job done, its longer than a binder but i fold it so the whole fabric hugs my tatas. Im really happy that i found it and i hope i get an actual binder in the future : )
I’m NB but like masc NB and I just have to thank you for this video. Seriously I have been struggling so much with this issue, I’ve tried anything but it just doesn’t work, but hearing your methods (especially since we have similar sized chests) gave me some hope on this. I figured I was just never gonna figure it out but these suggestions seem possible to me! Thank you so much ❤
one thing that i've done to hide my boobas is get a very stretchy and slightly thick child sized tank top. i stretched the arms of it to make sure it wouldn't hurt my arm pits, and i wouldn've done it to the bottom of it and the neck aswell if they weren't already big enough to fit me. if you have a smaller chest, as in ribbcage size not booba size, it works super well! my boobas are medium size right now and it still works super well! doesn't compress as much as an actual binder, but works better then sports bras. it's affordable, since it's children's clothing you can get some very unique designs and colors(i have a purple one and a green one😁), and i've done exercise in them and it didn't bother me at all! you just have to make sure the fabric is stretchy enough tho, i've tried wearing one that wasn't as stretchy and it gave me friction burns because of how tight it was...so if you wanna try this, test it out, put it on before buying it. also, i believe it'd be a bit hard to put on for most people, i don't struggle with it because my shoulders are hypermoble, but someone who doesn't have that mobility would probably struggle a lot... not much different from the struggle of putting on a common binder tho😂
I need to know where you get them from and in what age size
I clicked this video quicker than sonic can run
putting this in a playlist so I don’t lose it 🙏
I’m transmasc genderfluid and I’m a 38F (kill me), so for me binding isn’t really an easy option, but on days I’m particularly masc, funnily, just presenting myself in a more masculine way helps. My school also has a uniform though so it’s harder for clothing expression, but just wearing a turtleneck under my uniform helps. I have my sleeves rolled up a bit, shirt tucked into my pants, and black hi-top shoes. It’s hard to explain how or why, but on these days, people seem to process “he” a lot more naturally even if they usually default to “they”.
It doesn’t seem like a lot, but sometimes just the little things make people’s brains tick over to “he”
I used to layer crop tops to the point i could barely breathe
Ok I don’t know if this is going to sound weird but it made me so happy and feel so loved that you don’t shave your armpits because I don’t either and some of my friends and family have given me a hard time about it.
to personally share my experience with these options I have tried both trans tape and compression tops as they seem the most practial for me. whie binders can be really compressive and you can feel alot more pressure, the compression tops I have (they're also the adjustable strap ones) in size small definitely help reduce the shape of my chest at the sides and makes me feel secured, they have a pretty seamless and nice fit. trans tape is suuuper helpful for people that wear clothing of differnt cuts/materials as its the most practical (I can wear shirts that have a longer v-neck, off the shoulder tops, and generally other clothes w kinks in them). yes, definitely round those corners when cutting the tape and I suggest when buying make sure the tape is thick (large 5"), makes it for easier application and more coverage. to remove, its easiest after a warm shower and to make sure its been after a while of wearing. ik transtape also has oil for removal but after I ran out of that I used a massage oil but I've heard baby oil works great too. again thank you for this! there were so many options in here and I loved watching it. your videos when coming to gender expression through clothing is always a lifesaver
thank you for sharing with us!! 💌✨
I've become the master of layering on my quest to be flat. (Roll up your sleeves (same as the tucking shirt in pants reason), JACKETS AND FLANNELS!!!!!!, big busy graphics, thicc fabric, shirts under t shirt, hoodies WITH ZIPPERS AT THE FRONT!!! ESP A BIT LOOSE ONES!!! (makes your chest look like its from the hoodie if you find the right one). Also if you have a sports top that has a lot of extra at the bottom you can flip that over your chest to bind more. Dark colours leave no shadows to make chest more obvious like for example white.
I used to think binders could never be my thing due to my fear of it breaking my body from wearing it too long...
BUT THE ZIPPER OPTION OMG !! I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS A THING !!!
I need this binder omg
THANK YOU IRIS *we say in unison*
hehehe ily
I wear my binder a lot more than I perhaps should because i wear it to school but I can't really use any other option for school because my school uniform is basically a suit and it is really obvious to me when I try to wear a sports bra instead of a binder and it makes me uncomfortable
But when I'm not around other people like if I'm just in the house I find that I can be OK wearing just a t-shirt or just a sports bra
I’m a cis man. Not sure why this ended up in my recommended or why I clicked on it. Cool video though
Same I am a cis woman but this looked cool
Do you respect lgbt people that do this?😊🤔
Another great option is threadless shirts. Great graphic prints and thick fabric that tends to hang down a lot. Get out there and confuse some normal people❤
Before I got a binder, I just made my own out of an old small bra and elastic bandaid. worked for me for around half a year. still have it somewhere if I'll ever need it, and I hope I won't, it was really uncomfortable to wear because it was too short. if you're the "I'm a trans man and I need for my chest to be flat always" like me and don't have any other options, might as well try this
You have now summoned the trans masc community
i feel so blessed omg
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this is so positive and uplifting - you are so fantastic for creating it. keep up the fantastic work! (or rest if you need to xxx)
thanks for watching!! i appreciate that sm hehe
I just wanna say tysm for mentioning young people too! It makes me feel so happy when someone mentions that!
the avoidance of words like b**b, t*t and stuff is so real pftft
So ive started callin 'em chesticles......... thank me later u guyss~~~~
The layered long sleeves under stuff really makes a difference. I love putting a flannel under a crewneck sweatshirt bc it makes it feel like more put together and the sweatshirt is gonna lie flatter over a button up than just straight on my chest. It's bot about how big my chest looks, it's about flatness!
I watched this video immediately because my mom really took my binder away saying “your a girl”
I am so sorry that happened-sending love & light. I hope this video can help a little ❤️ you know who you are
@@irisolympia thx I’m bi-gender but secretly trans and no one knows lol. So every night I watch videos of how to make your voice deeper and how to look flat
@@Jaxine77997I feel you bro 😭 transphobic parents are awful, I hope it gets better for you 🩵🤍🩷
I'm glad this came up at the start of summer because I need to know how to look more masculine when I can't wear ten layers lol
I have tig ol' bitties (j cup) so I've accepted that surgery is the only way I'm gonna get flat T-T
But I do use tight crop tops with the swim suit fabric (XS/S) that kinda help
I’m so excited to watch this video!! I can’t wear a binder bc of a congenital sternum defect (I could break a rib or collapse a lung) and my sunken in chest makes my barely existent breasts look way more accentuated. Only a minute into the video, but I had to pop over to the comments first to thank you 🖤🖤🖤
Thanks for this video! I have a heart condition so I'm worried about using a binder. Your advice in this video has give me hope and showed me that other options can be really effective, I appreciate that :D
i'm not enby or trans but i don't wear a bra due to sensory issues and have a bigger chest, so this is really helpful
My advice, multiple sports bras at once, 2 is preferable. I personally also like using the band at the bottom of a bra in the middle of my chest and having compression overtop that, as it makes for a flatter surface before full compression starts.
Also, KNIT AND CROCHET FABRICS, you knit? Make a sweater, grandma knits? Tell her you want a sweater, anything. Knit fabric can be the exact thing you need, high texture, color and thickness you can choose, looks good almost regardless of what else you wear as long as it isn’t some hideous pattern or design, seriously, buy some, get some made, or make some yourself, doesn’t matter.
WAKE UP! new iris video!! and a fun helpful one!!
The tips in this video were very helpful!
I have a smaller chest, but the tissue in it is denser than normal so compression doesn't work as well, but tips from people with larger chests usually is more helpful than people more my size! The tips in this about clothing material helped the most, because there are some shirts I like and hide my chest, but I was never sure why so I didn't know what to look for in new shirts.
I can't wear a binder for medical reasons (my ribs like to dislocate randomly already, and I'd rather not make it worse lol) so I usually just wear comfy sports bras and baggy shirts and hope for the best. Recently I've tried wide KT tape used like trans tape, but that's a bit pricey over time and I get friction blisters easily so it's not the easiest to do frequently.
Additional things about trans tape from what I've tried:
It does work better for me than the times I've tried binding. The feeling of something stuck to my skin bothers me quite a bit usually, but I found that wearing a sports bra over my chest and the tape helped with that? Like. It didn't feel like I had something sticking when there was something else over it too.
I mostly got blisters in my armpit area and on my side close to my back the first time, so if you're worried about blisters definitely tape a little bit lower and shorter than the videos on yt of how to apply usually show it. When I did it just like how it was shown it ended up too long and too high and I had to take it off because of really bad blisters after a day, but when I made those little adjustments I could wear comfortably for 3 days.
If you don't want to use up the tape for nipple covers, DO NOT use MULTIPLE bandaids to cover. The worst blister I got the first time was next to my nip because I had used two smaller bandaids in an x over my nip, and the tape had squished the bandaids into the skin in a way that they were rubbing against each other and the skin BAD. INSTEAD get larger, waterproof rectangle, square, or circle shaped ones that can FULLY cover ur nips.
I was like “aww this may not work :(“ at first when you said people with bigger chests but then later in the video i found that we are almost the same size! Thanks a lot! ❤❤❤❤
yay!!
Watching your videos is just so comforting! Thank You for Everything 🖤
what i do as a minor that is not allowed to buy a binder is i take some old leggings and cut them to fit me as like a tank top and i like to use 2 but use the number that feels right for your body and ill also wear a loose bra under to help with comfort
Tysm i'm gonna try that
@@Olgabceot YW i hope it works for you too!
honestly thank you for this 😭 I often wear my binder too much, I’m so uncomfortable without it. I wear it to school all day and then 3 days a week, go to my dads for a few hours after school. I wear it the whole time and it KILLS my back. so thanks:))
No posture is bad posture is really funny to me for some reason- ❄️✨
Thanks! Closeted genderfluid person here, too big of a chicken to ask for a binder so this is really helpful on days where I feel masc :)
AHHHH HI!!!!!! I'm genderfluid too! I'm also closeted too! How do you deal with sadness when you feel sad that your not the gender you feel?
IM so happy I found another genderfluid person ❤❤
Thank you for being the first person I've seen that has mentions the side curvature, I thought it was just me. Amazing tips, though I wish I could layer, but U run so hot it just doesn't work for me.
Love that you are honest about brands!
you are so pretty and I love your style!! ❄️✨
As a trans non binary i like wearing baggy clothes so to hide my "chest" and at school i see girls saying they are jealous because of my "chest" and are wondering how i already got it because I'm only 10
Iris you delivered and did NOT disappoint ❤ thank you thank you, when you said you like your chest the way it is but also hate it some days was very relatable. Gonna keep all these tips in mind and save this vid in my library for next time I look at clothes/sports bra options
idk why I'm watching this since I don't want to hide my chest or anything but I'm glad you guys have some helpful resources!!
I loved the recaps at the end of each section, they’re very helpful for me and they’re very good idea 😄
UK FRIENDS!!! my fav binder option is spectrum outfitters, theyre a little more tough than gc2b but it provides more structure! highly recommend :)
alittle tip for people who do have binders but also struggle cause they have a big chest: I've noticed with my friends especially (with bigger chest size than me) that they kind of struggle with trying to be flat, just since binders don't always sit right, so to add more support (which will help with comfort of the binder aswell) you can wear a light sportsbra (choose one with specifically thin fabric, or like even just a basic one at Walmart, do not use any padding since itll defeat the point of the binder) under the binder, ofcourse don't do this frequently because it can have problems with your back and shoulders, but just for when you need that added support.
Really one of the best "tuts" I ever saw
THANK YOU
Thank you so much for putting the time and effort into this video that you did!! These are really great and helpful tips
The fact that i started wearing baggy clothes around 10 was the sign of me becoming a trans non-binary now i have a bra and a 2 sizes to small tank top on as a Binder you helped me alot❤❤
Drawing attention to other places around is another thing maybe. Doesn't really hide size/shape when you intentionally look at the chest, but if you just glance in the mirror you're less likely to focus there int he first place. Stuff like a shirt with a standing collar/buttons, interesting sleeves or hairstyle, a belt buckle, patterned/colour trousers etc.
im obsessedddd with your necklace omg
such a good video!!! love seeing this representation 🫶🏼
thx for watching!!! ❤️
So glad you talked about your chest size! My chest doesn’t look super big, but I took my measurements and it turns out that I’m a D cup. I took measurements multiple times to make sure I was getting it right. It’s really nice to know that someone else has something similar with their chest.
Thanks, I'm not trans but i really do enjoy hiding my chest and appearing flat because it feels more comfortable and aesthetically pleasing for me than anything. This video has been pretty helpful, especially the section about baggy clothes and such.
Been excited for this video! Thank you, love your videos! Hope you're doing better ❤
thanks for your support hehehe i’m doing good!
AAAAAAA thank you so much!!! I appreciate the amount of work you put into this video :D
thanks for watching!!!
As someone who’s a size D at only 13 I needed this video because I’m very insecure about my chest mainly because I’m scared of getting sexualized especially by boys because most are creepy not all tho. (I’m also trying to find out if I’m a FTM trans person)
I LIVE in button downs, usually open! And you're completely right about boxy-ish shirts that are shorter, those are so helpful! I've actually found a ton of those for like $16 apiece at Hobby Lobby in the US, and they usually have sales! Thank you so much for making this video, this was so amazing and helpful and helped me feel seen