Can This Insane Mouse Setting Actually Make You A Better Aimer?

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
  • There’s this sort of prevailing, unilaterally accepted myth that, if you play any sort of shooter, and you want to develop some truly sick aim, you absolutely must turn off mouse acceleration.
    Almost every experienced aimer will tell you the same thing: go into your client, Windows settings, any third-party drivers you’re running and make sure you uncheck any sort of box that might inadvertently ‘F-up’ your aim. It’s like Rule #1 of the ‘Hi I’d like to FPS, please’ Starter Pack.
    With that said, does mouse acceleration actually screw up your aim, or does it have the potential to level it up?
    To forge this sort of high sens/low sens hybrid whose mastery - as a handful of utterly cracked competitors have already demonstrated - might offer the best of both worlds?
    Let’s find out.
    Written by: Dimitri Pascaluta (@DPascaluta)
    Hosted by: Dimitri Pascaluta (@DPascaluta) & Colten Gowan (@TheOnlyZoltan)
    Edited by: Colten Gowan (@TheOnlyZoltan)
    Produced by: Keith Capstick (@KeithCapstick) & Niall McCrossan (@niallmccrossan)
    Thumbnail by: Brandon Mistele
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    Music used under license from Associated Production Music LLC (”APM”).
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  • @gghhoosstt1233
    @gghhoosstt1233 2 роки тому +332

    I am purely a wrist aimer due to very little space for my mouse. For that mouse acceleration helps me alot to do a 180 turn incase needed.

    • @litjman21
      @litjman21 2 роки тому +7

      just make ur sens higher

    • @TxCoby
      @TxCoby 2 роки тому +23

      @@litjman21 yeah but if he’s a low sens player that would not help anything,would just make it worst

    • @nolanbutbetter4755
      @nolanbutbetter4755 2 роки тому +4

      @@TxCoby then just make it higher and get used to it? It's all muscle memory

    • @gghhoosstt1233
      @gghhoosstt1233 2 роки тому +1

      @@litjman21 my sense is literally 4.68 and i still need mouse acceleration xD

    • @TetraBui
      @TetraBui 2 роки тому +14

      @@nolanbutbetter4755 why change it though?
      Also it slow for more presicion, and clearly he is already fine with his current sens.

  • @TheN00bPolice
    @TheN00bPolice 2 роки тому +50

    To clarify, the anti-cheat issue is only for Interception-based drivers that are now deprecated. There has never been, nor ever would be anti-cheat issues for either Custom Curve 3.0 or Rawaccel since they are both designed in a way where it is impossible to exploit them to cheat. Custom Curve was even designed in direct communication with faceit anti-cheat to ensure it’s compatibility, and Rawaccel was given the same blessing.
    Custom Curve and Rawaccel are the only good options available for Windows that work across the whole operating system each with their own signed driver. In-game options should be avoided usually since they normally tie the rate of acceleration to frame rate (exception of Diabotical and Quake live)
    Also, there is no issue with using non-linear sensitivity curves, all acceleration is fundamentally a non-linear output; a linear output is a static sens. In any case, 3D game worlds are not linear and we don’t aim by memorising fixed distances, rather by hand-eye coordination, so linear or not is not at all relevant in terms of it being “good accel” or not.
    Also, the only issue with windows EPP accel is not the shape per se, but that it is not user configurable, so certain DPI settings would produce difficult to control results, whereas others would feel nice with it

    • @nightskorpion1336
      @nightskorpion1336 Рік тому

      No one is reading allat

    • @480hz
      @480hz 16 днів тому

      @@nightskorpion1336 sorry to hear that your tiktok brain can’t comprehend this actually insightful and interesting comment

  • @thebluecollarkid1521
    @thebluecollarkid1521 2 роки тому +21

    "Do the things.... Thanks!"
    -Dmitri.
    Yep! Already done bro!

  • @kove8859
    @kove8859 2 роки тому +95

    As a acceleration user you guys did a fantastic job explaining the concept. Much impress

  • @BarryMcBangerz
    @BarryMcBangerz 2 роки тому

    Great thorough vid on a topic that needed more attention and consideration, thanks!

  • @BlissRemedy
    @BlissRemedy 2 роки тому +63

    I love how Colten casually has Rosemi Lovelock on his monitor while talking mouse accel, Very Cultured

    • @Shinx48
      @Shinx48 2 роки тому +6

      imagine if it was finana instead, with her cursed mouse grip

    • @Blacmorecito
      @Blacmorecito 2 роки тому +3

      I also saw an Ina poster, truly a man of culture

    • @xforce6213
      @xforce6213 2 роки тому +4

      For the past year or so of him appearing in videos, ive mever seen him appear without a vtuber on his monitor LOL

    • @iklaydeee850
      @iklaydeee850 2 роки тому +3

      Rosemi-Sama

    • @TheOnlyZoltan
      @TheOnlyZoltan 2 роки тому +2

      Rosemi Sama is definitely a cultured choice.

  • @GoodnotGreat88
    @GoodnotGreat88 2 роки тому +67

    Being a little older I was part of the first generation competitive fps gamers, there weren't hundreds of UA-cam guides telling you best settings and strategies. So I started my cs career with it on and didn't know any better. I got pretty well know for insane awp flicks because of it while still being able to have precise control with a rifle when needed. I have since learned to play with it off but I definitely see a benefit to having it on for those that can take advantage.

    • @justin-hurd
      @justin-hurd 2 роки тому +2

      what made you switch? also, did you have any habits from awping on accel?

    • @GoodnotGreat88
      @GoodnotGreat88 2 роки тому +13

      @@justin-hurd After a time I just kept hearing from the pros it was bad to use and eventually turned it off and adjusted. With it off, xhair placement becomes more important and the crazy flicks happen less often. But good xhair placement is more important than a flashy flick so i suppose it was good advice.

    • @justin-hurd
      @justin-hurd 2 роки тому +2

      @@GoodnotGreat88 huh, thanks for the insight!

  • @4bangerkovaaks
    @4bangerkovaaks 2 роки тому

    Finally a bigger channel covering mouse accel.
    Id recommend raw accell a lot of people have had great success with it.

  • @JoTlz
    @JoTlz 2 роки тому

    I didn’t even know about this, thank you for telling me, my sense is a bit faster but flicking is much more consistent now. Thx

  • @Siptogaming
    @Siptogaming Рік тому +1

    I’ve been using mouse accell for a year or so and making content with it, it’s a great thing that allows me to aim with a low sens without putting strain on my shoulder with my torn labrum.

  • @vecislt
    @vecislt 2 роки тому +6

    Many years ago when I still played 1.6 and was a young teen I used to play super low sens with mouse accel. I wen't from average aimer to good in about 1-2 months. It won't suit everyone and I think majority people will hate it, but it did fit me very well. I used to play something like 1.1 sens on 400 dpi basically without mouse accel I had no chance to turn 180. However since I came back to FPS few years ago after not playing any for over a decade mouse accel does not feel the same. And currently I play with mouse accel off, but my aim again became avarage and I have to play way above my comfort zone low sens. I'm currently at 0.377 1000dpi in Valorant. Not sure how many times faster that is but I can do 360 on my mouse pad with no issues.

  • @nervz
    @nervz 2 роки тому +28

    I HIGHLY recommend trying out natural gain (the one that looks like a log graph). The reason is simple. At slower speeds (wrist aiming), it's must easier to be precise. At much faster speeds, such as when you are swiping your arm across the mousepad, it's harder to "control" the mouse. Thus, as you increase the mouse speed, the acceleration is less..

    • @msmc5379
      @msmc5379 2 роки тому +2

      Very nice. Thanks babe, what do you think of motivity?

  • @OnionThyme
    @OnionThyme 2 роки тому +12

    It's not a matter of using math or getting used to the acceleration differences. It really just takes a lot of mechanical skill. The generally understood theory right now is that you can get good with many different sensitivities and sticking with one sens forever doesn't make you better. Using a variety of sens over the years can help build up better mechanical skill in general by working different muscles groups for aiming. That said, it will take much more effort to adjust to using mouse acceleration at a high level in actual gaming, and for a lot of people, that extra effort likely isn't worth it.

    • @WestProter
      @WestProter 2 роки тому +1

      This isn't entirely true. Didn't actually watch the video yet, no idea if they're right, but a large part of mouse accel is math. I got a friend (StarkLN) who's top 10 or so in the world for dynamic clicking. He never uses mouse accel as every scen he runs would require a different curve, or else he'd be at a disadvantage, and he's "too lazy" to change it every time. Basically, your speed and sensitivity are the two factors that affect your ability to hit a target. In static, and most cs, val type games, you can get to a target with a variety of ways, just depending on how fast you move. But when you're adjusting to/tracking a quickly moving target, there's a certain sensitivity and speed combination range you have to stay between to stay on that target, based on it's speed. Accel will end up warping this range, and often times a certain curve will make a certain target incredibly harder to hit. I have one curve that's basically op in ground plaza, take it into pgti and it'll kill you. It accelerates too quickly for when the bot isn't at it's apex and makes it super hard to hold the target. However, in ground plaza, it gives you a great sens for quickly tracking the bots that circle you and precisely tracking the far away ones. The adjustment period is highly overrated. If you're already use to sens changes, you'll be fine on it in a day, better in a week at whatever that curve is optimized for. But optimization is a huge part of accel. Obviously it's not granting you mechanical skill, but it let's you essentially trade in skill that you won't be needing for skill that you need more of in that scenario. Like I don't need much pgti level tracking in Val, so I use a really nice static curve. Debating editing it to account better for strafing enemies.

  • @vimalvarghese9534
    @vimalvarghese9534 2 роки тому +5

    Hi as someone who plays mobile games like cod ,pubg,Apex legends mobile,i have tested a lot on this
    Acceleration has always been a part of sensitivity settings in these games as touch area in the device is low depending on your screen.
    Two different acceleration are distance and speed, distance means as the distance u move the finger the faster ur cursor will be. speed is the more commonly used as explained in the video
    The advantage is u can use very low camera sensitivity for precise aiming and
    Speed accl for flicking 180
    It is more useful for assault rifles, for snipers u have to get used to it more ,as the speed accl is also applicable to your ads sensitivity, in ads too speed accl comes in.nice to see pc gamers are catching on.😁

    • @coldytmouseandkeyboardonph6163
      @coldytmouseandkeyboardonph6163 2 роки тому +1

      I play cod mobile on phone but I use keyboard and mouse (using gamesir x1). And speed acceleration works best for me.

  • @newpolitician
    @newpolitician 2 роки тому +2

    I dove deep into using RawAccel a couple months ago. Gave each curve I tried a few sessions to feel it out and the ones that felt best I spent some time tweaking til I found a curve that works for me. I’ve seen my avg dmg go way up in Apex. The biggest problem imo is that anyone wanting to compete at or near pro level really shouldn’t be getting used to it because most of the time u won’t be able to install any custom accel software onto LAN PCs

  • @robloxianflexgod347
    @robloxianflexgod347 2 роки тому +2

    I've done the things, and I've been using raw accel for over a year and it's been amazing. I can still learn movement while having a slow sense to track enemies. Once you fine a curve you'll have some unstoppable aimbot momemts.

  • @deadwhitedragon9751
    @deadwhitedragon9751 2 роки тому +4

    I actually used mouse accel essentially as training wheels, as I struggled to aim with windows pointer precision either on or off
    Now that I have a large mousepad and have learnt how to aim on low sensitivity, I use no accel

  • @techiecreations
    @techiecreations 2 роки тому +8

    I was an acceleration naysayer for years, but I've been using the linear mouse accel with the RawAccel program and loving it! I developed a lot of RSI with my 60cm/360 and mouse accel is saving my wrists.

  • @TetraBui
    @TetraBui 2 роки тому +2

    Just realized that I never turne off the windows mouse accel, which explains something like why I am constantly over an then under flicking targets, so now I'm switching to raw accel instead, wish me luck!

  • @yaoshan5069
    @yaoshan5069 2 роки тому

    Nice shots Dimitri

  • @phronesis1642
    @phronesis1642 2 роки тому +1

    I Love Mouse Acceleration because I can literally do anything with it. I use RawMouseAccell.
    It is possible to play high sens and have a slower sens for micro adjustments and anywhere above the 0.5 cm your normal Sens applies.
    It is also possible to play on low sens and only let the Acceleration kick in when you flick out of your FOV. Ofc that takes a couple of minutes to set up but it is so worth it.
    I can also set a limit to the mouse accel which basically means I can max the sensitivity at 1.5 of what my normal sens is.
    Raw Mouse Accel is literally the perfect programm for everyone who likes playing with settings and is all about aim.
    However I do not recommend it for casual players because you do need to be able to have fairly good control over your mouse.

  • @charleshorseman55
    @charleshorseman55 Рік тому +1

    I turned off mouse acceleration as an experiment, and I feel like i'm using a windows 3.1 machine. Overshooting, looping, etc. I think my mind has adapted to the inbuilt acceleration CERTAINLY for productivity. In games, (of which online competitive I rarely do) it feels intuitive as well. HOWEVER! I will try it without, but the style I use the mouse (full palm on desk, highish sensitivity, mouse never moves more than ~2.5 inches, fingers flat on triggers, mouse never touching palm) I really appreciate the acceleration.

  • @bjholland8322
    @bjholland8322 2 роки тому

    I never thought they would make this video

  • @budz2684
    @budz2684 2 роки тому +3

    Colten with the rosemi stream open and the ina poster. What a Chad.

  • @yetitobediscovered
    @yetitobediscovered Рік тому +2

    I recently switched to raw accel in valorant after years of playing raw input on csgo and valorant. It definitely has been a learning curve (pun intended) but I already see the benefits of it. I was able to lower my sens very low because of raw accel (270 eDPI - > 180 eDPI) and my headshot percentage has gone up by about 5% directly because of the lower sens and ability to micro adjust. Normally i wouldnt be able to play that low without raw accel. There are negatives though - Certain spray patterns from certain distances are drastic enough to trigger my raw accel which totally throws off my aim, however, these distances are further away than i really should be spraying anyways so its not a big deal. I think this would have a bigger impact in csgo tbh, esp with the ak. Other than that any negative impact is just the learning how to flick with raw accel. But I think with time it should improve my flicks for sure as i will be flicking faster than most other players and can even micro adjust after i flick faster than the enemy can turn if they use low sens lol. I also have noticed tracking a flying raze is very difficult now, but i think that's again just a learning process.

  • @Cornexium
    @Cornexium 2 роки тому

    I was an Arena FPS player and I never played with no Mouse Acceleration. Now the other way just doesnt feel right when I can get both the sensitive aim and flicks in the same sens

  • @ovithegreat8817
    @ovithegreat8817 2 роки тому +2

    I’m a high Sense wrist Aimer. My reason for using it is to be able to flick at a high speed but track at a low sens after I flick onto a target. I made sure I understood mouse accel as much as I could before I tried it. It was a very smooth transition, and I can still play with out without it.

    • @kta4986
      @kta4986 2 роки тому +1

      Hey, i am the same type of aimer u. Was searching for help to set it up for me but found non as the majority of players seem to play low sense. Would be great if you provide me with some more information

    • @ovithegreat8817
      @ovithegreat8817 2 роки тому +2

      @@kta4986 I honestly think I might have to make a video on it because it’s a lot to understand. But I can share my settings if you’d like

    • @kta4986
      @kta4986 2 роки тому

      @@ovithegreat8817 Ur settings would be fine. So i can have a model.

    • @ashtoncasedy3237
      @ashtoncasedy3237 Рік тому

      @@ovithegreat8817 bro i too use high sens( eDPI 375 )for Valorant.
      I plan to use Raw Accel but, in the reverse way.
      Micro adjustment is difficult with this sens.
      Is there a way where if i move my mouse fast enough my dpi decreases instead of increasing?
      You got any tips or settings for that?

  • @AfghanSandcastle
    @AfghanSandcastle 2 роки тому +2

    Its about how much space you have with your mouse.
    I have a small mouse pad so I use mouse acccel so I can better flick or sometimes better turn.

  • @thebluecollarkid1521
    @thebluecollarkid1521 2 роки тому

    Yo! It was a great video! I liked it very much!

  • @red_seraphim
    @red_seraphim Рік тому

    Excellent video, on the note of pros using mouse accel, some overwatch pros use raw accel, i know Surefour uses it, and Ster (ex overwatch pro) uses it, both of them like to play different characters, accel gives them that flexibility

  • @allainangcao28
    @allainangcao28 2 роки тому +1

    Like all settings, I think Mouse Accel is best to those who are already used to it and made it a pivotal part of their gameplay.

  • @exploidval
    @exploidval 2 роки тому +1

    You're putting smoke into my eyes man. I don't know what to think no more man, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK

  • @kaboomspot
    @kaboomspot 2 роки тому

    In my opinion, no acceleration is syncing up your fast and slow twitch muscle for precise flick while with acceleration is using slow twitch muscles for micro adjustments or micro flicks & fast twitch muscles for fast bigger flicks like 180 turns

  • @rQuilln
    @rQuilln 2 роки тому +1

    23:27 You should add the text Low sens on the left, High sens on the right, and Mouse Acceleration at the middle

  • @zealsynth8610
    @zealsynth8610 2 роки тому +1

    Within the last month I opted to test mouse acceleration. My aim has been increasingly better in every game I play while continuing to be consistent.

  • @kag3mav639
    @kag3mav639 2 роки тому

    Finally after this episode I feel like a king!

  • @thejayman90
    @thejayman90 2 роки тому +5

    I actually had mouse accel on for the longest time and I noticed I was able to rifle fairly decent, but AWP/OP'ing was not as easy, my flicks would miss slightly every time, when I turned it off I felt alot more comfortable hitting the small flicks and even some long distance flicks

    • @bay0r
      @bay0r 2 роки тому

      i use acceleration/deceleration combo so i can have advantages in both rifle and awp/scout

    • @emmangenta
      @emmangenta Рік тому

      Same with me but I was considerably more cracked when I had mouse accel, I will try using raw accel today.

    • @faruq5277
      @faruq5277 Рік тому

      ​@@bay0rhow to do that?

    • @bay0r
      @bay0r Рік тому

      @@faruq5277 mouse software like steelseries GG, or others out there

  • @EmbersAnimations
    @EmbersAnimations 2 роки тому +1

    1:25 unironically way more convincing than any other smash that like button sham i’ve ever heard…

  • @akhilrawat3897
    @akhilrawat3897 2 роки тому

    i might think about using mouse accel just for a try after this since i am a pure fingertip player and i hold my mouse buttons to the absolute tip so it may help

  • @KamikazeWeed
    @KamikazeWeed 2 роки тому +1

    Bro the last Behind the Scenes bits xD

  • @zxgalvic
    @zxgalvic Рік тому +1

    Interestingly enough, i didnt start using it until i played COD Mobile, when my aim was inconsistent because of a small screen, i needed to be able to 180 while also being able to cross map snipe consistently. Took a lot of practice and still adjusting, but after starting to master it i can say i definitely wouldnt go back.

  • @BPKPhoenix
    @BPKPhoenix 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who had played for many years with windows acceleration before I even knew what windows acceleration was, it just became natural overtime and you just do the math in your head subconsciously to where its just natural to know how hard to flick, how much to adjust and at what rate. At a time before raw input kind of wrecked that, my sensitivity in Source from 06 to '15 was 600DPI @ 0.93 sens with 0.9 zoom sens. In CSGO for some reason, I needed to increase the sens from 0.93 to 1.15 and it felt identical. Before I took the game really seriously, I was just bumbling about with the setup and able to fight on the level of, and I quote a friend who was an ESEA Main player, "On par on most ESEA Main Players" in terms of raw aim skill. Sometimes, I'd tinker around with the in-game acceleration just to screw around and have more fun but then I'd revert with no in-game accel but have windows accel still up.
    Needless to say, I switched over to raw input since mid 2015 and never gone back, though with this video, I'm starting to entertain the thought of coming back and adapting to it again just for the lulz and giggles. Yeah, it screws up built in muscle memory but I barely had that after 2019, cuz you know, ya get old, get a job and stuff and just lose practice. Thanks for the content once again theScore \o/

  • @zhangdynasty1486
    @zhangdynasty1486 2 роки тому +2

    I watch these videos only to see what Colten has up this time.
    Was not disappointed with the Rosemi astronomy stream up

    • @TheOnlyZoltan
      @TheOnlyZoltan 2 роки тому

      Rosemi has some banger streams for sure.

  • @jeypi__
    @jeypi__ 2 роки тому +1

    Ive read somewhere that having it on or off isnt too much of a difference. You just adapt to whatever youre given.

  • @202215jaffe521
    @202215jaffe521 2 роки тому +1

    I am always a casual player so I never copy pro setting at all. The mouse accel really help me in R6siege as the gun recoil is easier to control, but most of the time you got killed from unexpected angle due to the natural of the game

  • @bay0r
    @bay0r 2 роки тому +1

    i tried everything. im using mouse acceleration for 3 years now. eveyrtime i tried to change to "normal" didnt work for me and my brain lmao. i use a little acceleration and a lot of deceleration combined with low DPI and high sens (4.20 lol) in csgo. i kinda have the sweet spot now, and my awp flicks going well, deagle shots are a lot easier and my ak/m4a1 aim wont suffer from it as im able to do small corrections due to the deceleration im using.
    Fast movement => acceleration kicks in
    slow/little movements => deceleration helping me to stay withing the range.
    awp/scout: initial aim (if not on enemy) will flick easily on chest/head due to the "feeling" you get for the acceleration

  • @bullfrog521
    @bullfrog521 2 роки тому +58

    I believe the main reason everyone turned off mouse acceleration was for the flick shot. With not having to deal with acceleration, you can have an easier time perfecting flick shots. But for a player who doesn't flick shot, I believe linear or logarithmic acceleration could be beneficial.

    • @bubblefishhk4336
      @bubblefishhk4336 2 роки тому +17

      That’s not true, you can cap ur accel, so flicking still can be consistent

    • @Adrian-jn9ov
      @Adrian-jn9ov 2 роки тому +14

      No the reason is because the windows accel is utter trash. Mouse accel is good if it is linear. On windows it is not only exponential but isn't one curve but multiples with arbitrary points where a new exponential curve begins

    • @WorldKeepsSpinnin
      @WorldKeepsSpinnin 2 роки тому +3

      @@bubblefishhk4336 exactly, fast turns but consistent flicks / movements. Best of both worlds. You can customize it to your liking so many options.

    • @Matrix-su5co
      @Matrix-su5co 2 роки тому

      Linear is no Mouse accel

    • @romo119
      @romo119 Рік тому

      @@Matrix-su5co late, but no it's not. He's talking about linear acceleration. Velocity would be x^2 if acceleration is linear 2x

  • @orekihoutarou1681
    @orekihoutarou1681 2 роки тому +6

    I feel like it would help if we had an aim trainer that records your mouse's velocity per flick. If we had an aim trainer like that, we can more easily find how to limit the value of mouse acceleration. I still feel like having no mouse acceleration and just having bigger desk space is much more easier to get more accustomed. It does sound cool to dual wield sensitivities and in theory, it sounds powerful. In the end, it's all about preference. Most of the time, it's not your peripherals that give you a high hurdle to jump over(unless it's your monitor or CPU god don't play on 60 hz trust me), it's your mind and mentality.

  • @KidMonkii
    @KidMonkii 2 роки тому

    I subbed, liked and this is my comment just because of how minimally you asked me to. I like it.

  • @jefflum4040
    @jefflum4040 Рік тому

    “Do the thing” is the best way to ask for people to sub

  • @Somtric
    @Somtric 2 роки тому +3

    It's personal prefence and nothing else. You can easily get used to mouse-acceleration if you want to.

  • @timianlyons9688
    @timianlyons9688 2 роки тому +2

    The problem is getting reliable answers from any games tech support regarding interaction with anticheats on mouseacceleration drivers imo. I've tried this for valorant and cs support without getting any clear answers to if it's safe to use for people who've invested alot of money in their accounts. Some accels get blacklisted from being used due to interactions/modifications done in the past to make different types of aimbots for instance. I'd love to use rawaccel as it would provide better curves for me due to a shoulder injury. Also I've got different types of sensitivity stages I feel comfort at but not 100% for all situations. Custom accel's in some games are not the worst but they don't let you monitor or look at any drawn lines or curves done, so messing with min to max scales and ratios is not the easiest thing to do or understand. For years people have been sceptical of higher dpi's as well, and recently it turns out it's to be preferred regarding input lag and pixel-skipping & jitters to mention one thing. Any FOV-zoom seen in slow motion will highlight the benefit of a higher dpi. Although some grips, techniques, sensors and hand-eye coordination will maybe have a bad impact for some, but that's more of a frequency of movement issue (how often you actually move inches and your sensitivity to dpi realationship. So for a low sens gamer that can't flick effectively or a high sense aimer not being able to "fine-tune" micro aiming mouse accel would indeed place as a benefit to both. And from spending thousand of hours in console's and aim maps I can say that adjusting to a few new numbers does not really take that long. But no such driver og program can be used without being afraid of it having some sort of fault-detection rate in anticheats, so getting one that is advertised by or for the biggest FPS gamers would be a must for me. A lot of people say RawAccel is not a problem to use, so why can't I get a "YES, good to go" from any technical support of the games? I'd love to try it for myself without taking a risk of loosing 1000's of dollars in in game content for games that hold a one-strike-out policy.

    • @Healp145
      @Healp145 2 роки тому

      Rawaccel will not get you banned, it has gotten explicitly whitelisted by faceit, vanguard, esea and some other russian anticheat, plus it’s a proprietary signed driver meaning it should not get flagged by any anticheat.

    • @timianlyons9688
      @timianlyons9688 2 роки тому

      @@Healp145 Every response I get from valorant support can not give me such a whitelisted view on it. No matter how hard I try, how much Information I provide or try to clarify upon I'm not getting these answers. So where does these statements come from? Other then on one post from the creator on their official discord server? I can't find it, and I certainly can't get the answer from a technical team in riot/vanguard.

  • @lazernarwhall
    @lazernarwhall 2 роки тому

    congrats on your engagement dimitri

  • @VirtualLusamine
    @VirtualLusamine 2 роки тому

    as a long time aim accel head clicker im glad you brought attention to my beloved accel, and to how horrendous windows pointer enhanced precision

  • @Phillipmamowfwifharts
    @Phillipmamowfwifharts 2 роки тому +1

    I use Custom Curve Pro 3.0 with that I use like a reverse acceleration..kinda. I use my normal sens, but I have it so that if I move it slow, it goes at a 600 dpi, then fast it is at 1200 dpi. Which is my normal DPI. It has a curve to the initial acceleration.

    • @eoghain5021
      @eoghain5021 2 роки тому

      that’s still just normal acceleration. reverse accel would have your sensitivity actually decrease the faster you move your mouse

    • @TheN00bPolice
      @TheN00bPolice 2 роки тому

      @@eoghain5021 he just means that the multiplier of 1 is at the limit of the curve, rather than the base, so he is using it to reduce his “usual” sensitivity, not increase it

  • @SanguineSpirit616
    @SanguineSpirit616 2 роки тому

    Yeah, that's the thing. Hit plat in most games and Eagle in Cs go long time ago. Never once realized I had mouse acceleration on, I'm just used to having it on by now.
    When I turned it off, I instantly became shit at the game, a rank below my average. I think it mostly benefits those who have a lot of mouse pad space

  • @Bakerqwq
    @Bakerqwq 2 роки тому

    I've been using raw accel for 9 months and love it

  • @tommyd27
    @tommyd27 2 роки тому +11

    When you mentioned that windows enhanced mouse precision, I remember turning a setting on like that, went, checked, its on, oof. Turned it off and CSGO feels so much better.

    • @piv0ted
      @piv0ted 2 роки тому

      same here, hopefully now i can get out of silver in valorant xd

    • @Sowtah
      @Sowtah 2 роки тому

      @@piv0ted gl with that valorant doesn’t even have mouse acceleration support so you’re basically stuck

  • @djSpinege
    @djSpinege 2 роки тому +12

    The best way i can describe understanding mouse acceleration is: when you throw a ball in real life you instinctively know how fast to move your arm to get the ball to the exact distance you want. throwing a ball precisely takes practice but its not impossible to throw consistently eventually. it's as if some of these people never played physical sports.

    • @WorldKeepsSpinnin
      @WorldKeepsSpinnin 2 роки тому +3

      exactly, if you want to go fast in real life, well, you go fast. I kind of expect to turn faster then normal when moving fast lol. If I want to be precise I move slowly / slower. Simple enough. If you want consistency and are on a lower sens you can do that but have fast 180s / 360s to. Best of both worlds. It’s a very welcome customization that everyone should play around with if they are serious about getting better. As this is something that can help immensely, you can customize your mouse to you. Less adapting to it more time to actually get good.

  • @marcoooo7324
    @marcoooo7324 2 роки тому +3

    I came for Xantares, stayed for Rosemi behind Colten

  • @Saiga12308
    @Saiga12308 2 роки тому

    I do something similar, except I keep raw input on. I play on like 600 edpi for regular aiming (not enough to 180), but use razer's dpi clutch to increase my mouse dpi while I'm holding a side button for when I need to turn quick.

    • @iscap5065
      @iscap5065 Рік тому

      Wait what is this. How do you do this?

  • @kennedycutter3668
    @kennedycutter3668 2 роки тому

    Mouse accel in valorant with the shotguns and even the pistols goes crazy. Can take a bad game and turn it around with a good judge round.

  • @dontusethisaccounttowatchp9635
    @dontusethisaccounttowatchp9635 2 роки тому

    This is such a cool conversation

  • @y0Fiqqy
    @y0Fiqqy 2 роки тому +1

    Colton’s mustache is truly goated

  • @mynameiskip
    @mynameiskip 2 роки тому +1

    problem with mouse accel is for micro flicks for example your crosshair is a few mm away but you still want to flick fast it's hard to control

  • @DeletedTaters001
    @DeletedTaters001 2 роки тому +61

    I think the benefits of mouse acceleration diminish greatly when you have adequate desk space (and the resulting mousepad room).
    You get the best of both worlds. You just use your arm for 180s.

    • @Paytrolah
      @Paytrolah 2 роки тому +3

      I main a 75cm and I use accel, accel is best for low sens as you can retain speed but keep precision. I got my voltaic nova 1w4t score on accel and was getting 1600 10 sphere hipfire extra small scores on 103fov.

    • @FLNKmusic
      @FLNKmusic 2 роки тому

      Not necessarly, I personally considered using mouse accel because i used to struggle at having a wide range of motion, even tho i have the space for it. Like I could control small ranges of motions, I could control large ones too, but the mix of both, nope. What I mean is I could either be snappy or smooth in my movements, but I struggled to be consistently both, like if my brain couldnt naturally make the switch. However, I thought using mouse accel would just be a way to mask an issue I should just properly fix, so I just worked on that, and now Im starting to be satisfied with the state of my aim motions, without mouse accel.

    • @Healp145
      @Healp145 2 роки тому

      There are a lot of accel users on big pads as a lot of people use it as mostly a comfort option. But there’s always exceptions. The aimgod above me, Paytrolah, Uses accel because he has developed rsi in his wrist I believe and it hasn’t fully recovered afaik.

    • @csbr0679
      @csbr0679 2 роки тому

      Yes I agree but the guy with mouse accel on will turn that 180 faster than the guy with his arm.

  • @nippo5927
    @nippo5927 Рік тому +2

    I'm using it, not find the right settings for me yet, but it feels wonderful. I can my 120epdi (on Valorant) and still comfortable 180 people

  • @dash-l5259
    @dash-l5259 2 роки тому

    Finally a real cracked episode again

  • @TheRadioSquare
    @TheRadioSquare 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, this is not something people talk too often about but it's a really interesting topic for anyone who's into the aiming mechanics of FPS games. CS/Val players likely wouldn't see too much benefit in it but I think Apex is the biggest game right now that has massive room for accel.

  • @pownder
    @pownder 2 роки тому

    Love you Dmitri

  • @wukishark
    @wukishark 2 роки тому +1

    Show more Colten. I want more Colten

  • @elmad2153
    @elmad2153 Рік тому +1

    I play counter strike for more than 15 years now, at some point a few years ago i felt like my aim was really really good. And i stopped playing for a few years. Came back i few months ago and its like my aim was gone. I couldn't remember my settings, and recently i tried mouse accel and it feels like i'm back in my good old days.

  • @awesomebrotherhood7698
    @awesomebrotherhood7698 Рік тому

    I have started to use Raw Accel for Valorant. And I am currently not seeing any improvement but I do see opportunities

  • @Spurrrg
    @Spurrrg 2 роки тому +33

    Yes. Custom mouse acceleration is completely viable. I have been using RawAccel linear curve for almost 2 years now and switching to regular sens feels wrong. However, using a premade acceleration, that is an option in windows or in a game is not recommended.
    Do not listen to anyone, who has not used acceleration seriously for more than a month or two. The best advisors to listen to in terms of acceleration are the people at r/mouseacceleration, because most of them have enough experience with different curves. All the talk about "it will ruin your muscle memory" and "You cant be precice" are false in terms of custom curves. Most of these statements exist because people dont know about custom curves, but instead are only familiar with Windows enhanced pointer precision etc.
    I highly recommend trying a RawAccel linear custom curve. It does not destroy your muscle memory, because humans are good at adapting to change. Just pick a curve you like and stick with it. It will feel weird for the first few days, but it is worth it in the long run.

    • @dasch0und
      @dasch0und 2 роки тому

      I also used to use RawAccel but at the time Faceit wasnt sure if is allowed ot not so they said they wouldnt ban me but i wasnt allowed to use in officials now im not planning to play competitive but at the time this break my heart

    • @LoneBeastYT
      @LoneBeastYT 2 роки тому

      you could have a specific curve that is constant,Jumps to next sens and constant like astair to essentially have a dpi toggle. wanna be precise? aim slow wanna flick ? aim faster

    • @WorldKeepsSpinnin
      @WorldKeepsSpinnin 2 роки тому

      @@LoneBeastYT exactly, I didn’t know about rawaccel and was going to try the windows one for this exact reason but I found out you can customize all this stuff and it’s perfect. You can even change the rotation of your sensor to match how you naturally move left to right and make the lines perfectly straight. It’s crazy what you can do you can make it feel very life-like and that’s exactly what’s needed. You can have the best of both worlds, fast turns and precise flicks / movements.

    • @Healp145
      @Healp145 2 роки тому

      @@LoneBeastYT that could make tracking targets that suddenly move faster or get closer really weird and uncomfortable. Imo a gain graph with a jump curve is better as it smoothes out the cap, making the jump a lot less uncomfy.

  • @whosTage
    @whosTage Рік тому

    I cant play anymore without mouse accel or i have tried but never play enough without it that i could get used to it, idk if i would be better aimer without it but it just feels right for me to use it

  • @johannguyen9276
    @johannguyen9276 2 роки тому +1

    bro was the r6 clips of dimitri? if so i am impressed.

  • @FriendNotFoeBand
    @FriendNotFoeBand 2 роки тому

    It keeps your hand in home position more for aiming. You aim with your eyes mostly. Working on aim builds hand-eye coordination and I you practice, you should be able to use any funky setting you feel like. I don't use it. I like having my arm all the way in my chest while tracking a Pathfinder doing a perfect gyrospherical grapple around me.

  • @fadhilyudistira8819
    @fadhilyudistira8819 2 роки тому +1

    my mouse setting changes depend on the game. I do use mouse accel in csgo and valorant, but I don't use it in 1.6 and condition zero.

  • @YoRHaUnit2Babe
    @YoRHaUnit2Babe 2 роки тому

    I always asked myself, does it have some sort of delay in between input changes

  • @distribeat
    @distribeat 2 роки тому +1

    I had mouse acceleration turned on in the original CS Half Life mod. I think my mouse was at 400 DPI with 1.25 sensitivity. It was amazing but of course, with people saying that mouse acceleration was dumb, I felt the need to turn it off. Looking back, maybe I shouldn’t have.

    • @sO_RoNerY
      @sO_RoNerY 6 місяців тому

      Never listen to others who listen to others who don’t know what they’re talking about.

  • @lumiya4596
    @lumiya4596 2 роки тому

    Had this on ever since I bought my laptop 2 years ago and have been playing with it on ever since. Id recently turned it down having watched a lot of videos suggesting it to be turned off.
    Im a wrist aimer and id say it might be preferable for wrist aimers. Was so comfortable with it turned on but I now have it turned off. Adjusted to it for a week or less than it and im back to my "normal" self.
    Probably better to have it turned off and just adjust your in game (or even mouse settings) sensitivity as I have done.

  • @lorenzodepaoli3642
    @lorenzodepaoli3642 2 роки тому +1

    at this point you can literally just tell me "do the things" and I'll do whatever I am missing without hesitation

  • @ImKuromii
    @ImKuromii 2 роки тому +1

    yo real question though... where do I get that desk pad...

  • @bibabutzemann5661
    @bibabutzemann5661 Рік тому

    Im a gyro controller gamer and acceleration is a huge advantage for gyro aiming, because you can do great flicks with a low sens. When you do it with a higher sens without accel. , your aim is always jittery from your hands. And you have more stopping power after flicks.

  • @BradyWalsh666
    @BradyWalsh666 2 роки тому +1

    "i just wanted an excuse to show off my fancy textbooks, because what else am i supposed to do with them?" - i laughed a little too hard at this one.

    • @TheOnlyZoltan
      @TheOnlyZoltan 2 роки тому +1

      🥲 my wallet was begging for some justification for those purchases...

  • @djSpinege
    @djSpinege 2 роки тому +1

    been flying racing drones since 2013 with expo rates. so it was only natural to use them in gaming too.

  • @anonomousninja8661
    @anonomousninja8661 2 роки тому +3

    when I first started shooters I used mouse acceleration, had choppy aim but eventually I could play regularly. After I swapped to turn it off, I was inconsistent but I got better muscle memory so much faster

  • @angelovillasanta2606
    @angelovillasanta2606 2 роки тому +1

    lmaoooo not the calculus book that traumatized me in undergrad making it way to theScore esports' video.

    • @TheOnlyZoltan
      @TheOnlyZoltan 2 роки тому

      Glad I'm not the only one 😭🙏

  • @dimpizz1525
    @dimpizz1525 2 роки тому

    Because of this video I've found out that I've been playing cs with mouse accel for a year or more. I thought it was turned off. Gotta try to play without it.

  • @venomyami9197
    @venomyami9197 2 роки тому

    i play fps since almost a decade and this is the very first time i heard about mouse acceleration

  • @cagethelonewolf
    @cagethelonewolf Рік тому

    everytime i get a fresh install i leave enhanced pointer precision on ;> i play with it for a good bit before trying to do as the pros do and get reminded hey you should like turn that off

  • @7AM_Tzar
    @7AM_Tzar 2 роки тому +1

    I used to use mouse accel bc my mac couldnt turn it off, i've never been as sick at cs after i swapped but at least i can see my screen.

    • @7AM_Tzar
      @7AM_Tzar 2 роки тому

      it just doesnt make sense with my current mouse or windows default accel and idk my old accel so oh well

    • @rssvxoxo876
      @rssvxoxo876 2 роки тому

      you can disable it on mac using external softwares

    • @7AM_Tzar
      @7AM_Tzar 2 роки тому

      @@rssvxoxo876 i dont use it anymore and i didnt care enough to disable it

  • @aqurac
    @aqurac Рік тому

    I'm currently in for ca. 2 weeks. I'm at the point where I want to return to raw input because I'm overwhelmed with the possibilities and don't exactly know how to setup a curve that I REALLY like.
    Having said that I think i can't return.
    I'll have to stick with it because: The first time I tried acceleration I was immediatly surprised by how good it felt and what i can do with it with experimenting. Going back to raw just feels absolutely shit. Really I mean it, I tried to go back and gave it time but it just felt bad in every aspect. It wasnt fast enough and all the precision was gone.
    So I'm going to continue to find my curve and I'm sure I'll be happy with it, as it already feels good often, but I'm still changing things a lot. Going back is a WAY bigger step than starting.
    So for everyone who tinkers with their sens too much already with acceleration off, don't even start it without knowing it will be work. In the end I'm sure it will feel great.

  • @dalvlian1099
    @dalvlian1099 2 роки тому

    i will do the things, thanks for the quick one

  • @Padelkai
    @Padelkai 4 місяці тому

    ive been using mouse accel for YEARS since i Play really slow sense and it doesent effect the sens unless i have to make a drastic movement with the mouse, sadly its not Possible rn in cs2 BUT if/when it comes i really recommend low sens Players to try it!
    Brax/Swag uses it aswell since he Plays like 1.2-1.5 sens

  • @johnnywick6348
    @johnnywick6348 2 роки тому

    TBH when i got my first pc 3 years ago and started playing valorant. The entire time my mouse acceleration is turns ON. And I got really good at it also my bestfriend was always using mouse acceleration and his immortal now. When turned of my mouse acceleration i started struggling aiming but i still tuned it off to this and already got used to it turned off. ITHINK YOU JUST HAVE TO GET USED TO IT BELIEVE OR NOT.

    • @Tajjoku
      @Tajjoku 2 роки тому

      I thought val uses raw input

  • @kered13
    @kered13 2 роки тому

    The benefits of mouse accel are more limited in a slow paced game like Counter-Strike, but in faster games like Quake, TF2, or Overwatch it's much more useful.

  • @SorenCDN
    @SorenCDN 2 роки тому

    really love how yall shamelessly put dimitris clips into the videos he hosts idk why but its so funny to me

  • @ShiroVAL
    @ShiroVAL 2 роки тому

    Got Voltaic Nova with RawAccel linear mouse acceleration so it's definitely good. Also, muscle memory in aiming is a misconception, there's a feeling of being comfortable with your sensitivity, nothing more.

    • @Sparsh_05
      @Sparsh_05 2 роки тому

      How is muscle memory while aiming a misconception? It sounds perfectly logical

    • @Sparsh_05
      @Sparsh_05 2 роки тому

      @@Healp145 the movements you make with your arms to hit certain shots and track can develop muscle memory

    • @Sparsh_05
      @Sparsh_05 2 роки тому

      @@Healp145 just your overall tracking can get better, muscle memory can be things as simple as flicks

    • @ShiroVAL
      @ShiroVAL 2 роки тому

      @@Sparsh_05 aiming is about learning the techniques. Not about learning distances. Judging by how you think it's pretty clear to me you are NOT a top tier aimer, thus your opinion will be discarded. Go play some KovaaKs and then come back :)

  • @maverickop4599
    @maverickop4599 Рік тому

    Can I play with mouse acceleration ON after been playing with acceleration off for few months?I am having hard time adjusting aims with mouse acceleration ON,used to play with acceleration ON since very beginning