Thanks for watching everyone. This video originally started out as a Fallout 3 10th anniversary video, but as I played more of 76 and the other games I wanted to make it more about Bethesda as a whole. And for those of you wondering, I do think Fallout: New Vegas is the better Fallout game over all, but I hope I’ve convinced you as to why Fallout 3 is awesome in its own way.
Jean-Luc Seipke new Vegas on pc with expacs is the best fallout experience. When new Vegas launched originally it was horrible at the time with the amount of bugs.
Fallout 3 was the first time I fell in love with the apocalypse. 367hrs just on PlayStation since its launch. I agree with your RPG element concerns 100%.
I play FO in 2000.... at 20 years old. Then FO2 in 2003, the old good days and my mind blow up with so much rpg elements almost perfect, then FO3 came out and ofc New Vegas wich... yeah, everyones knows. My order, FO2 New Vegas FO FO3 Bethesda just never understood what is Fallout
I had never heard of Fallout when the third entry came out during my senior year of high school. I saw the trailer and knew it was from the same team that made Oblivion and that was all I needed. I remember the chaos as I left the Vault. I killed the Overseer for being a jerk and remember his daughter got mad at me and never wanted to speak to me again. I remember being awestruck at the ramifications of a choice I had made without a second thought. Bethesda has made some questionable decisions with Fallout, but I never would have even heard of one of my favorite franchises in gaming if they hadn't acquired the rights to it.
It is amazing how, no matter how reasonable or well articulated you make this video, how many people still dislike the video and post mindless comments. Great video. Distills the differences in style down very well.
sad but true. I dont own RD2, but Ive seen my friends play it and it really makes you stop and pay attention. this makes you stop and mourn what could have been.
Charles Stanford well it was never supposed to stand to a game like that where they’ve been developing that game for more than 8 years plus delays...76 was made with two years
you have a good point. but this is more of a developing philosophy issue. rockstar does not fuck around, they put 200%+ into their flagship titles. bethesda has always been fishy. releasing buggy games and their over-reliance on the saintly modding community lmao you can almost argue that their success has been overly generous and somewhat undeserved. they built a straw house.
I think they did understood FO. The question is, did Beth wanted to follow the old route? Unfortunately for the fans of the original series, Bethesda opted for that which sells more: the arcade and shallow gameplay that the masses loves nowadays. The true FO died long time ago. Bethesda is whoring a new FO and earning big money thanks to their addicted clientele.
@@edwin11373 they dont. They Really dont. all they are doing is scrapping everything, and re-doing stuff in a worse way that will earn them a ton of money and kill the fans. thats all. This is yet another casualty of a series, seeing how Fallout 4 sucked, Fallout 3 Sucked, and Fallout 76 is probably worse than both.
>Save someone from dying only to turn around and make them a slave for some amusement park That's basically Bethesda's contributions to the Fallout series. And Obsidian was basically a little slice of freedom before being thrown back behind bars.
You really pinpointed and helped me realize what I found lacking in New Vegas. One of my favorite things in Fallout 3 was just to set out and see what I could find. With so many cool places to explore it made the game world feel so immersive and alive. In New Vegas, there is a lot less of that, with tons of buildings that were mere props to decorate the outdoor world. Both are great games, just for different reasons.
@@piggosalternateaccount4917 Didn't say it was all brilliant. DC area at large definitely had its issues. Especially with the mess that was the subway system. But I was a lot less disappointed when trying to explore in 3 than I was in NV. That's for sure.
@@TheNorkeKnight Oh fair enough, my bad thought you were a bethesedarone for a second Yeah NV really had far too much empty shit just thrown in because they didn't have time however, *however*, the "not enough time/funding" argument only goes so far I don't think they intended to fill New Vegas as much as they could have done, regardless of what my fellow fans say
All those one room buildings with just a sunset star cap.... Yet 3 has schematics and more skill books and bobble heads..... WHY CANT OBSIDIAN AND BETHESDA JUST WORK TOGETHER ON A FALLOUT GAME?!?!?!
@@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883 Because we review bombed New Vegas at launch... it only got popular years after Bethesda learned how costly it was to collaborate outside of the studio. I wonder what part of 76 we'll lament about in 2028...
What Bethesda should do is give the Fallout series to Obsidian, since they know what they're doing and can create a really amazing game, and while Bethesda works on the Elder Scrolls, since its more their strong suit.
Jeffrey Loefer Obsidian is owned by Microsoft now not a chance unless fallout is Microsoft exclusive which it isn’t so stop your wet dreams bud Bugthesda is dying and Rockstar owns them like always
I agree with you, but like Charles said, now that they are owned by Microsoft, its not happening, this is sad to me as im mostly a ps4 player, but at least they will be released on pc so I can play there.
Lmfao.....Yeah, coz game companies love giving gifts of thier IP's to other companies. In-case you have forgotten, Interplay did it's own fair share of fuck up's, with the Fallout franchise. Remember BOS and Fallout: Tactics (both where blasted) by fans and critics alike.
@@TXGermsXT Same here, I thought 3 was better, I just found NV to be a boring map, full of forgetful quests, locations and characters. (I didn't even care about the main quest) But I absolutely hated the 'level caging' and the cattle prodding, you around the map, most of all. (since I love nothing more, than exploring). It's the only Fallout game I've never fully completed, (despite trying multiple times) due to this, the creeping boredom, the damn in-game bugs and the crap DLC's.( I did like the faction stuff, morality options and weapon mods though)
I miss Black Isles and Interplays contirbution to the Fallout Franchise :( If you guys didnt know them, they are the original Developers and Publisher to the Fallout Franchise.
I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Fallout 76 is different from most Fallout games. It's different, not bad. I still believe other Fallout games are better than it. BUT GOD! Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is the WORSE! Why are they advertising real life products in an alternate universe of America and why is Slipknot in it!?
@@mrbitey123 Did you ever played Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance? Champions of Norrath or Return to Arms? Those are some awesome ps2 games and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is done the same way with the same engine, but it isn't cannon and with wacky writing instead of the original witty writing that Interplay/Black Isle did to Fallout 1 and 2. Gameplay wise it is fun as hell, but the main issue the fans have is the writing/lore. But as a non cannon spin off, it is a great game. Way better than Fallout 76, at least.
@The Dark Mage Well, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 still are a couple of old games, but they are regarded as the best RPGs ever made. So what's your point? What is Fallout known as nowadays? A bunch of shitty shooters with shitty writing. So again, what's your point? I rather see it becoming a couple of beloved and witty old games than the blemishes Bethesda is doing right now.
True. These guys saying Troika games would saved them when they are no longer around. The irony. On the plus side I did enjoy Vampire TMB. Also Bioware are responsible for the Baldur's Gate games..............
AVERY MCENTIRE played most fallouts except the first one and I just have to say give 76 a chance sure there’s not much a story or interaction with npcs other than robots, but it’s still fun aside from the bugs glitches and lazy textures...
Yes... YES. You put it really well and captured what i felt of Fallout in this video. I agree with the statement. And i believe they can still make good Fallout games. It's just a shame it's not a straight road :).
Thank you for you hard work. I still have not beaten Fallout 3 and just one time beaten Fallout New Vegas. I really learn a lot about your video. Kept me listening every word you narrated.
100% agree that Obsidian and Bethesda working together would be monumental. Obsidian's talent for writing and open-ended quest design in conjunction with Bethesda's stellar atmosphere, environmental storytelling and excellent exploration loop.. fuck why wasn't that the plan after F3 & NV?
Fallout 3 still stands as my favourite game I’ve ever played (despite its problems). I really hope Bethesda learn from 76 and go back to focusing on what made fallout so successful in the first place (mainly not sacrificing single player and story).
Great video GameSpot! I finally find an youtube video that is impartial regarding of what bethesda did right and wrong with Fallout franchise, all other videos that are right now on youtube are basically bashing bethesda because of Falllout 76... My feeling is the same, the best fallout game is a game that has the exploration of fallout 3, the rpg elements of fallout nv and the crafting&shooting of fallout 4. I always loved the exploration in TES games (oblivion and skyrim) but if they can combine that with the best elements of New vegas and Fallout 4, I think that we will get another masterpiece. I still believe that Bethesda games studious remains as one of the best game developers out there, even after Fallout 76.
This person that made the video, was invited to a Bethesda fallout76 special event, he cant really be too critical, he was impartial I guess, but this is just him saying hey fallout 76 is good enough... because Bethesda kind of paid me to say it.
Fallout new vegas was way unfinished and was running and a old engine. But what makes fallout new vegas way better is there's not back story you can make your own and use it to your advantage. Also this is my opinion but far Harbor was bad I really didn't like it
If not for Bethesda, Fallout probably wouldn't have been as popular after the fall of Black Isle. FO1&2 are great games, but to anyone who's not a cRPG fan they're just not very interesting. Bethesda changed that by incorporating their own FPS open world design and streamlining several original systems. They brought the franchise to a much wider audience, and that's a fact. It's also a fact that they didn't want to stop there. From FO3 to 4, then to 76, the goal of the studio has been painfully obvious. They don't just want more players. They want all of them, even at the expense of what made their previous titles and the entire franchise so interesting in the first place. Obviously, their latest endeavor has backfired. Hope they see it not as an insult but an opportunity.
@Grym I Agree however, if companies don't cater to a wider audience these days, then they either get in financial difficulty or don't get the recognition. Games cost far more money and time to develop these days, due to them being larger and having more overheads. So, companies simply have to make money and if they don't, they go under.....just like Interplay (Black Isle Studios) did, years ago. The fact is Crpg's are (and always were) very risky investments, since they have such a very niche market. They are never going to sell millions of copies and so, will never have a big budget to spend or a large development team. The only companies that will even touch them these days, are small Indy studios, which is ok, until these companies produce a financial flop (which is very easy to do in a niche market). This recently happen to both Obsidian and InXile, who where both at tipping point and about to go bankrupt, until Microsoft threw them a life line, at the very last minute. If they wanted to survive, then they really should have taken a leaf out of Larian Studios book (Divinity games), who realized this, a few years ago when they were at the tipping point. What they did was to not only bring several modern twists to the genre, but also, catered to the wider audience (console users) Honestly, some people think that Fallout is bad, under Bethesda, but if I remember correctly, the only other party that showed interest in the Fallout IP, when Interplay went bankrupt, was Activision..........now try to imagine that.
Several things can be true at the same time - the big contributions bethesda made in bringing fallout to where it is today...i am also glad they took the plunge and tried out something new with fallout 76, expanding their toolkit even when this experiment clearly failed
New Vegas is just as good at environmental storytelling. Examples: the cutlery that's fallen through the floor of the BoS bunker, the survivalist and his logs, and locations like the Devil's Throat. Also, though all of the best quests can occur as part of the main quest, very few of them are essential components of the main quest, and most of them can be started and completed outside of the main quest. I do think 3 gives has a richer environment to explore, but I think this has a lot to do with Obsidian's limited development time/having to re-use old Fo3 assets.
I agree with everything you've said. You have been very fair on your cases and don't just hate or praise one of the two companies. I believe 3 and New Vegas are both equally as good. They both have their pros and cons just like all games on the planet. Thank you for this video, I think you just earned yourself a sub
The gaming community needs to calm down. Sometimes games are bad, even if it’s an IP and a developer you love they are human and sometimes have bad ideas. This doesn’t mean Todd Howard is the devil, we should voice our criticism calmly, and hope the next game is better.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Bethesda's track record. Fans have been voicing their criticisms in the past with almost every game Bethesda has released and have yet to see most of them addressed in any meaningful way. Fo76 is simply the straw that broke the camel's back. I mean, Todd Howard even joked about it during Fo76's reveal. At that point, a lot of people weren't finding it funny anymore.
No. People have already voiced their criticism somewhat calmly before. Bethesda continues to fuck up, and LIED about 76. That doesn't deserve calm criticism.
Fallout 3 is the best one. Loved how they added Harold from Fallout 1 into the game as a tree. The music and atmosphere makes it stand out from the rest
Just imagine the possibilities if FO76 was an actual single-player fallout game, the setting of west virginia could've been so intresting if it was used properly.
Sick of the debate between 3 and NV. Fallout 3 set the framework for NV, both are incredible Fallout games. 4 was decent despite some moaners around it, it was never going to live up to the crazy hype but I still have a ridiculous amount of time within the game. BGS have been great for Fallout at bringing the series into the modern gaming era. Hoping for a solid game with Fallout 5 due to the slamming of 76 recently.
Excellent analysis. I'm sorry the comments are filled with lurkers who only want to fling poo at the interweb's chosen boogeyman du jour instead of complimenting you on your work.
yeah far harbor is the best fallout thing bethesda ever did in my opinion. im glad someone else agrees. Too many people i know refused to give it a chance after the initial let down they felt from fallout 4 and it saddens me greatly. I only hope that after the fallout 76 experiments maybe 5 years from now when they actually give us a proper fallout again, it will be structured and written as well as that dlc was.
Great vid as always but I have to disagree about fallout 4s only intresting quests in the main story that you dont get from just exploring. There are a bunch of quests that you can only find out about from exploring separate to the main quest, Cabot house, silver shroud etc. etc.
I just only played 8 hours with Fallout 4 games. But I like Fallout 76 very much. Because we can play with friends. Experience adventure, funny situations together. Together to fight and win and discover everything
Really good video, FO3 was my favorite, I might try FO76 but I’m pretty turned off from it. Also, ur right far harbor was amazing, it made me feel something for the characters like FO3 and let me explore, if only they would remake FO3...
Bethesda honestly even the great at environmental story telling. For example, the fucking diner in Fallout 4 where you see a family hold up against some chem dealers. They're supposed to be using the diner as a their own shop, but just looking at the diner you'd never guess that. They even still have skeletons in the food booths! Why wouldn't they clear those out?! And one famous option is how Rivet City in fallout 3 doesn't seem to have any way to get their own food.
The only good thing they did to Fallout was "saving" it from death in the past but ever since Fallout 3 they did nothing but damaged the franchise. That's right, Fallout 3 was LITERALLY the only good thing they did to Fallout. LITERALLY...Oh yes, they also allowed Obsidian to develop arguably the best Fallout game and let modders do as they please which lead to such amazing projects such as Fallout New California, Frontier, Cascadia, Miami or 4 New Vegas being worked on too i guess but other than that? They've been killing it. At this point the only purpose Bethesda has with Fallout is to deliver proper tools for the modder so THEY can develop a proper Fallout game. Nothing beyond that.
Great points. while I certainly have had my issue with Bethesda personally I'm not using Fallout's 76 as a benchmark for where the company's going. Starfield on the other hand has a lot to prove to me.
I like each for different purposes. 76 is one of favorites now Cuz i get least bored in it and ive always wanted a online fallout. They have alot of badass things from older fallout also
I was fairly disappointed with fallout 4, however when far harbour came out it got me exited, it was actually fallout. I couldn't wait for the two other large dlcs that were promised by Bethesda, however when nuka world came out and soon after they said that that was the last dlc that made me bitter, it was even more empty than fo4 in many ways and I couldn't see how they managed to screw everything up after getting everything right in far harbour. One thing to add about the older fallout games ,far harbour and even the elder scrolls games when compared to fallout 4 and 76 is that the world feels organic, hard to explain but the Commonwealth just feels like a place with things in it and only a few real things at that, not an actual living world
Here's how it should've been (excluding the pc 1 and 2): Fallout 3- This is cool Fallout NV- Holy balls this is sick Fallout 4- This is amazing! Fallout 76- Holy shit this is great! Reality: Fallout 3- This is cool Fallout NV- Holy Balls this is sick! Fallout 4- ...what is this? Fallout 76- ....we can't have nice things anymore.
unless Bethesda is perfectly content losing every bit of a respect they've ever garnered in the RPG genre (is fallout 76 even selling well? i just know damn well it's universally getting torn apart by critics and fans), they have no hope of ever reclaiming the throne CDPR has ousted them off. they gotta really start stepping the fuck up or at least relegating story writing and characters to competent companies like Obsididan since all Bethesda is concerned about is world building. that's not even necessarily a slight at them because I think that's always been an area they've shined in and despite TES/Fallout degrading in many, many other regards in the past few installments, the worlds they've been building are constantly improving in quality and variety imo. like New Vegas is by far my favorite entry in the fallout series, but fallout 4 objectively has a far more varied and unique wasteland and even fallout 3 does too to a degree.
I think at this point with the state of the series as it is, Bethesda is too unwilling to admit that they dont know Fallout as well as they thought they did.
I find it funny how many people are complaining about 76 not having a story or its story being "bad" simply because of the lack of human npc's. 76 probably has some of the best storyTELLING simply by not having an NPC spout exposition for 10 minute intervals. The story is spread out across the world and is interconnected across the ENTIRE region. In movies we complain about exposition dumps but it's funny that in games we seem to be annoyed when story is delivered in anything but.
@@mathewhuff1157 You sir, should look up what exposition is. Literally any medium that conveys information is exposition. The difference is organic exposition versus weak exposition. Piecing together a story organically by discovering different parts in an order unique to you ORGANICALLY builds out the story and engages the player in its telling because YOU put it together. There is nothing engaging about Preston Garvey telling me the entire history of the Minutemen in a 20 minute dialogue tree... Not to say dialogue trees can't deliver information in an interesting way (Far Harbor is a great example of this), just that 76 can ALSO tell a compelling narrative too without them.
People in the comment section claiming they're Fallout fans..Because of New Vegas *NEVER EVEN TOUCHED OR PLAYED FALLOUT 1/2 THEIR ENTIRE LIVES WHICH IS TURNED BASED* lmao
I can't give them a free pass on this money grab. As you stated they have or had the skill to deliver but instead they want 60 bones for this. It shouldn't carry the Fallout name but it was the only way they could hope to sell it. They have lost their way and it may be time to let Obsidian have at it again instead of butchering it.
I think too many people who are fans of one game get too into their own head and cant accept anything else tbh. Fallout 3 is in my top 5 games of all times. Fallout 4 and 76 are so fucking amazing and I couldn't be more happier with these games and being able to play how I want. NV was good, but the only thing I preferred about it was how they brought weapon customization into it. Which 4 and 76 have but way better.
Far Harbor is without a doubt Bethesda's Magnum Opus. And though I would love them to do a full Fallout game of the like, I don't have hope for it. I know they are capable, but hoping for something that I am almost certain will never come just seems like an unrealistic waste of time. The only reason Fallout 76 will eventually be good is because of fan and gamer outrage. Not in any way because Bethesda has the passion to. And that's why I don't have hope for Bethesda. They have already exhausted it.
its my opinion that they fucked up regarding PVP. they should have made it a toggle. where you are either in PVP or you aren't. OR, made PVP servers. its cool to explore and build and have stuff to do, but in the end. (IMO) i want to see how well i can do with all this stuff i now have. let me go out and find people to kill, to loot. and with looting, make it to where only like 10% or 5% of their stuff is lootable. so they can find your house, kill your turrets, break down the door. find your storage locker and after all that give them something for their efforts. have them have access to like 5% of all your stuff. and then add something in to where they can't loot you again for a week or something. if they happen to find you again later, and they kill your turret and break down your door, and open your stash, it will just be empty. OR make it to where you cant be looted more then once a day. this game is just missing the human element IMO.
I guess i am one of the few people who loves more exploration and a bit of story to get things moving forward. I played the original Fallouts and loved them. But then when i heard Bethesda, after Oblivion, was making Fallout, i was stoked for it. And they delivered. Fallout 3 was every bit amazing for a person who likes exploration. People hated the metros but the tense feeling of going into one and encountering raiders, ferals, super mutants was amazing. The map felt very lively right from Dunwich to Nuka cola museum. Though BoS were portrayed as nutjobs in previous games, they felt like knights in shining armor in FO3. As we moved to Fallout NV, it was full of story and massive but amazing writing. But being a 3D game, same gamebryo engine, it felt very empty. Agreed there was a desert but there was no compulsion to actually go anywhere and explore. There were many factions and choices, but nothing seemed important at the end and watching NCR having their own trivial issues and delusional Legion, there was nothing left in the game form me. The hyped Vegas was barely 3 areas and quite underwhelming. I enjoyed the DLCs more cause the areas seemed much better. Then came TESV:Skyrim and then FO4. I felt the games becoming dumbed down each iteration...probably cause of heavy console focus. Also the exploration and side quests or faction quests were quite small unlike Fo3 and Oblivion (the dark brotherhood and Fighters guild have long questlines). But as an exploratory game, they were fun. Creation engine looked very good back then. Even if the story is not strong, the game worlds kept me occupied. And alas we have FO76. it gives me mixed feelings. it has everything for exploration and it just feels like an extremely huge area was added to FO4 (and i hope someday modders add applachia to FO4). if you play for too long , you feel right at home for a Bethesda game. but i didnt get the point of online multiplayer considering the map is so huge, you see a person hardly once in 2 hours and they just wave and go their separate ways. its as like playing a single player game.I understand the story tells you why the map is empty and it feels good to know how BoS started (a modification in lore is fine since its not like obsidian is ever going to go back and write it). I really hope we get to bring BoS or Enclave back to Applachia, and maybe Bethesda starts adding such DLCs to populate the world back with NPCs. As far as creation engine is considered, its buggy but the areas look amazing, especially the mire is creepy like Far harbor.
I'd love to try that honestly, I tried to play Fallout 1 a while ago and I honestly didn't understand the controls but this is coming from someone who has over 1600hrs in Fallout NV so in general I don't understand how older games work.
@@Dwevy _"I'd love to try that honestly, I tried to play Fallout 1 a while ago and I honestly didn't understand the controls but this is coming from someone who has over 1600hrs in Fallout NV so in general I don't understand how older games work."_ I can understand that. The old CRPGs were deliberately made like tabletop pen-and-paper RPGs, so you need to actually read the instructions to understand the menus and the like. I was raised with a Windows 3.1 PC and my first exposure to consoles was a SNES, so I have a bit of an advantage when it comes to understanding older games.
@@Idazmi7 Yeah I guess it's just a generational thing really. My kids in the future might look at Fallout New Vegas and say "Oh it's too old and I don't get the controls" as well.
@@Dwevy That's very likely. New Vegas is already at the point where people will dismiss it on graphics alone. That's why I consider myself lucky to have experienced older games first: I don't have any age-related gaming stigmas, and can play NES or Nintendo Switch with equal respect for the game itself. If you want your kids to be able to do the same, make sure that their first introduction to gaming is older games and systems. Let them get accustomed to those first, then upgrade later on.
Personally, I don’t think there’s a game series with such interesting lore. The 50’s retro futurism that is tailored to the series was introduced with Fallout 3. The original 2 had 50’s music but that was it. It had modern weaponry that you would see an any other shooter, but with some laser weapons. I feel the greatest thing Bethesda brought to the table was the wacky 1950’s theme that made it stand out from other post apocalyptic titles.
Thanks for watching everyone. This video originally started out as a Fallout 3 10th anniversary video, but as I played more of 76 and the other games I wanted to make it more about Bethesda as a whole. And for those of you wondering, I do think Fallout: New Vegas is the better Fallout game over all, but I hope I’ve convinced you as to why Fallout 3 is awesome in its own way.
Jean-Luc Seipke new Vegas on pc with expacs is the best fallout experience. When new Vegas launched originally it was horrible at the time with the amount of bugs.
Fallout 3 was the first time I fell in love with the apocalypse. 367hrs just on PlayStation since its launch. I agree with your RPG element concerns 100%.
Nice video man. Concise and open
I play FO in 2000.... at 20 years old.
Then FO2 in 2003, the old good days and my mind blow up with so much rpg elements almost perfect, then FO3 came out and ofc New Vegas wich... yeah, everyones knows.
My order,
FO2
New Vegas
FO
FO3
Bethesda just never understood what is Fallout
@@rizz647 It was horrible because Bethesda trow FO3 scripts to Obsidian and told they have 10 months to make the game.
_"I don't want to set the world on fire, I just want to start a flame in your heart"._
I'm sure you did, Todd.
"And sometimes, it dosent just works"
- Todd Howard
Oh sure it its, Fallout 76 dosent work for us to have fun
Thats ironic destroying is own series
Bethesda’s Greatest Contribution to Fallout:
Letting Obsidian make New Vegas.
I loved Fallout 3 but Fallout New Vegas is king.
Tired of these companies releasing these unfinished ass games
Thanks for mentioning Far Harbor. I was wondering if I'm the only person who liked that dlc.
Yeah, great story and overall atmosphere. Nuka wold was'nt bad either but not as good as far harbor
Far Harbor was only good part of FO4.
They should give us fallout 3 and new Vegas remastered
3 is better than 4 and 76
madeOfClay personally, I’d say it’s better than 76 but 4 is better than 3. But NV is the best
Bethesda has never understood Fallout.
Fallout 4 is pretty good tho.
@@basshead. As an FPS, yes. As a fallout game, no.
+pelleper Fallout 3, NV and 4 they all feel like Fallout games.
@@basshead. emmm. NO
+Mariano Puertas Nobody likes a snob.
I had never heard of Fallout when the third entry came out during my senior year of high school. I saw the trailer and knew it was from the same team that made Oblivion and that was all I needed. I remember the chaos as I left the Vault. I killed the Overseer for being a jerk and remember his daughter got mad at me and never wanted to speak to me again. I remember being awestruck at the ramifications of a choice I had made without a second thought.
Bethesda has made some questionable decisions with Fallout, but I never would have even heard of one of my favorite franchises in gaming if they hadn't acquired the rights to it.
It is amazing how, no matter how reasonable or well articulated you make this video, how many people still dislike the video and post mindless comments. Great video. Distills the differences in style down very well.
Sadly, there hasn't been such memorable games like Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Damn man.
Graphic .J Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us
Fallout new vegas, i agree with, fallout 3 to me was literally as bad as fallout 4, its not good. New Vegas is an actual fallout game.
76's map looks so beautiful. What a waste.
Yeah but it's not supposed to be beautiful. I wanted wasteland not park land and fucking party hats.
Looks like shit compared to Rockstars superior game which is not surprising considering Rockstar games shit all over Bugthesdas lol
sad but true. I dont own RD2, but Ive seen my friends play it and it really makes you stop and pay attention. this makes you stop and mourn what could have been.
Charles Stanford well it was never supposed to stand to a game like that where they’ve been developing that game for more than 8 years plus delays...76 was made with two years
you have a good point. but this is more of a developing philosophy issue. rockstar does not fuck around, they put 200%+ into their flagship titles. bethesda has always been fishy. releasing buggy games and their over-reliance on the saintly modding community lmao you can almost argue that their success has been overly generous and somewhat undeserved. they built a straw house.
Bethesda never understood fallout
just another way to make watered down "rpgs"
I think they did understood FO. The question is, did Beth wanted to follow the old route? Unfortunately for the fans of the original series, Bethesda opted for that which sells more: the arcade and shallow gameplay that the masses loves nowadays. The true FO died long time ago. Bethesda is whoring a new FO and earning big money thanks to their addicted clientele.
Far harbor proved you wrong.
ベール グリーンハートVert Green Heart 1 dlc on a already crappy game proved me wrong? keep dreaming
@@edwin11373 they dont. They Really dont. all they are doing is scrapping everything, and re-doing stuff in a worse way that will earn them a ton of money and kill the fans. thats all. This is yet another casualty of a series, seeing how Fallout 4 sucked, Fallout 3 Sucked, and Fallout 76 is probably worse than both.
Nothing that good has came from them since Fallout 3. (Fallout Franchise)
Only REAL good games from Bethesda have been Morrowind and allowing Obsidian to make New vegas.
Rokabur this ain't it
Rokabur but I liked Oblivion...
@calitroit45 Completely forgot about them and was referring to the Fallout franchise. In general their last great game was Skyrim.
Fallout 4's survival mode alone begs to differ
Fallout 3 and New Vegas are still balls to the walls
>Save someone from dying only to turn around and make them a slave for some amusement park
That's basically Bethesda's contributions to the Fallout series.
And Obsidian was basically a little slice of freedom before being thrown back behind bars.
76 lacks story, content, NPC.
Which online mmo games doesn't include NPC?
Sounds like what your really saying is its lacking soul
We've spent how many games killing robots that have been trying to kill us? Fuck those bolt box's.
It has NPCs
@The Dark Mage Also some SuperMutant NPC, apperently.
@The Dark Mage fucking great, robots that's m uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh better
Bethesda's Contribution To The Fallout Series = making it worse.
Fallout 4 and 76 are two really great games.
pelleper imagine saying something this fucking stupid
Would you rather it fall into obscurity after Interplay and Black Isle made BoS...?
@@T4silly I rather see it fall into obscurity than see Bethesda rebooting it, because thats the way the Fallout franchise is heading.
@@T4silly YES. Letting a good game die instead of whoring it out is very preferable
You really pinpointed and helped me realize what I found lacking in New Vegas. One of my favorite things in Fallout 3 was just to set out and see what I could find. With so many cool places to explore it made the game world feel so immersive and alive. In New Vegas, there is a lot less of that, with tons of buildings that were mere props to decorate the outdoor world. Both are great games, just for different reasons.
oh yeah i fucking loved the messy and boring copied areas of DC
@@piggosalternateaccount4917 Didn't say it was all brilliant. DC area at large definitely had its issues. Especially with the mess that was the subway system. But I was a lot less disappointed when trying to explore in 3 than I was in NV. That's for sure.
@@TheNorkeKnight Oh fair enough, my bad thought you were a bethesedarone for a second
Yeah NV really had far too much empty shit just thrown in because they didn't have time however, *however*, the "not enough time/funding" argument only goes so far
I don't think they intended to fill New Vegas as much as they could have done, regardless of what my fellow fans say
All those one room buildings with just a sunset star cap....
Yet 3 has schematics and more skill books and bobble heads.....
WHY CANT OBSIDIAN AND BETHESDA JUST WORK TOGETHER ON A FALLOUT GAME?!?!?!
@@poofbomb-minecraftmore1883 Because we review bombed New Vegas at launch... it only got popular years after Bethesda learned how costly it was to collaborate outside of the studio. I wonder what part of 76 we'll lament about in 2028...
I agree about Far Harbor-- such a great dlc, unfortunately it doesn't make up for the base game lacking in what made FH so good.
Far Harbor truly was the best writing and game design Bethesda ever made. I FELT that map.
What Bethesda should do is give the Fallout series to Obsidian, since they know what they're doing and can create a really amazing game, and while Bethesda works on the Elder Scrolls, since its more their strong suit.
Jeffrey Loefer Obsidian is owned by Microsoft now not a chance unless fallout is Microsoft exclusive which it isn’t so stop your wet dreams bud Bugthesda is dying and Rockstar owns them like always
I agree with you, but like Charles said, now that they are owned by Microsoft, its not happening, this is sad to me as im mostly a ps4 player, but at least they will be released on pc so I can play there.
Not like the original members are still around either.
Lmfao.....Yeah, coz game companies love giving gifts of thier IP's to other companies. In-case you have forgotten, Interplay did it's own fair share of fuck up's, with the Fallout franchise. Remember BOS and Fallout: Tactics (both where blasted) by fans and critics alike.
they shoujld give fallout to cd projekt red
they killed it.. i dont have much hope for fallout anymore. at least as long as it is in bugthesda's greedy hands.
Replaying New Vegas right now, best one in the series.
My favorite Fallout is 3, but we're each entitled to our own opinions
fallout 2 is the best in the series
@@TXGermsXT Same here, I thought 3 was better, I just found NV to be a boring map, full of forgetful quests, locations and characters. (I didn't even care about the main quest) But I absolutely hated the 'level caging' and the cattle prodding, you around the map, most of all. (since I love nothing more, than exploring). It's the only Fallout game I've never fully completed, (despite trying multiple times) due to this, the creeping boredom, the damn in-game bugs and the crap DLC's.( I did like the faction stuff, morality options and weapon mods though)
I miss Black Isles and Interplays contirbution to the Fallout Franchise :(
If you guys didnt know them, they are the original Developers and Publisher to the Fallout Franchise.
Let me make a small correct to you well educate Sir, BI didnt contribute to FO. They create it
Yeah more fallout BoS and tactics,why not?
Oh boy will there be hell in the comments
I'd wager that someone will tell you to "Stfu" eventually :P
Won't get one from me though :D
Good to see some love for Far Harbor. I enjoyed Fallout 4 enough but the writing, quests, and atmosphere and worldbuilding of Far Harbor were awesome.
if there was never a fallout 3. by bethesda there would have never been a first person rpg fallout new vegas
Fallout 76 is more than bad. its the worst fallout game
Have you played the ps2 game ? No really like have you played it, I haven’t but apparently is worse than involuntary castration
I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Fallout 76 is different from most Fallout games. It's different, not bad. I still believe other Fallout games are better than it.
BUT GOD! Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is the WORSE! Why are they advertising real life products in an alternate universe of America and why is Slipknot in it!?
@@mrbitey123 Did you ever played Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance? Champions of Norrath or Return to Arms? Those are some awesome ps2 games and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel is done the same way with the same engine, but it isn't cannon and with wacky writing instead of the original witty writing that Interplay/Black Isle did to Fallout 1 and 2. Gameplay wise it is fun as hell, but the main issue the fans have is the writing/lore. But as a non cannon spin off, it is a great game.
Way better than Fallout 76, at least.
@@thevaultdweller4210 its a full price incomplete game made by a big company, that is bad.
@@kakalokin147 Incomplete?
Fallout would no longer exist and be relegated to a few old PC games from the 90's without Bethesda.
@The Dark Mage Well, Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 still are a couple of old games, but they are regarded as the best RPGs ever made. So what's your point?
What is Fallout known as nowadays? A bunch of shitty shooters with shitty writing. So again, what's your point? I rather see it becoming a couple of beloved and witty old games than the blemishes Bethesda is doing right now.
@The Dark Mage They made the 3 best PC RPGs from the early 2000s. If you don't know who they are, that's your own ignorance.
True. These guys saying Troika games would saved them when they are no longer around. The irony. On the plus side I did enjoy Vampire TMB. Also Bioware are responsible for the Baldur's Gate games..............
@The Dark Mage "Who is Troika?"
Lol, my god. The ignorance in this one.
glitches and 10 year old physics engines?
18*
The Mad Hacker
My New Vegas is more stable than my FO3......
Wut
Please, Titan fall 2 ran on the Source Engine
Great analysis, it clearly shows what Bethesda tried to do and what is trying to deliver, hope more videos like this came in gamespot
Fallout 3 and Vegas were amazing....4.....yikes......shooting and building were great......but.....that's it ..76?.......oh boy
AVERY MCENTIRE played most fallouts except the first one and I just have to say give 76 a chance sure there’s not much a story or interaction with npcs other than robots, but it’s still fun aside from the bugs glitches and lazy textures...
Take me home, to nv
New vegas
Obsidian mama
Holy shit this games bad
*I don't want the woooorld on fire...*
*Proceeds to nuke a settlement in 76
Did I seriously just watch the whole LEGO Movie in an ad for the LEGO Movie 2... ?
Yep, I did also.
Yes... YES. You put it really well and captured what i felt of Fallout in this video. I agree with the statement. And i believe they can still make good Fallout games. It's just a shame it's not a straight road :).
Thank you for you hard work. I still have not beaten Fallout 3 and just one time beaten Fallout New Vegas. I really learn a lot about your video. Kept me listening every word you narrated.
12:36 landscape pop-up? This is something new, Todd
100% agree that Obsidian and Bethesda working together would be monumental. Obsidian's talent for writing and open-ended quest design in conjunction with Bethesda's stellar atmosphere, environmental storytelling and excellent exploration loop.. fuck why wasn't that the plan after F3 & NV?
Fallout 3 still stands as my favourite game I’ve ever played (despite its problems). I really hope Bethesda learn from 76 and go back to focusing on what made fallout so successful in the first place (mainly not sacrificing single player and story).
Imo its fun factor outweighs its negatives so much that they're nonexistant
TxGermsxT I agree. I have such fond memories of the game even if it did crash on me multiple times haha.
Great video GameSpot! I finally find an youtube video that is impartial regarding of what bethesda did right and wrong with Fallout franchise, all other videos that are right now on youtube are basically bashing bethesda because of Falllout 76... My feeling is the same, the best fallout game is a game that has the exploration of fallout 3, the rpg elements of fallout nv and the crafting&shooting of fallout 4. I always loved the exploration in TES games (oblivion and skyrim) but if they can combine that with the best elements of New vegas and Fallout 4, I think that we will get another masterpiece. I still believe that Bethesda games studious remains as one of the best game developers out there, even after Fallout 76.
This person that made the video, was invited to a Bethesda fallout76 special event, he cant really be too critical, he was impartial I guess, but this is just him saying hey fallout 76 is good enough... because Bethesda kind of paid me to say it.
Great job with this video. I hope ppl at BGS watch it.
p.s. I'm deeply sorry to all those disappointed by FO76, as I am really enjoying myself.
You shouldn't have to be sorry for enjoying a game. I may not like Fo76, but I don't hate people who do.
Fallout new vegas was way unfinished and was running and a old engine. But what makes fallout new vegas way better is there's not back story you can make your own and use it to your advantage. Also this is my opinion but far Harbor was bad I really didn't like it
For all they hate on bethesda, I don’t think people realize without them fallout probably wouldn’t exist today.
It probably would. There were already other companies willing to by the license to it, with Bethesda simply winning the bid.
If not for Bethesda, Fallout probably wouldn't have been as popular after the fall of Black Isle. FO1&2 are great games, but to anyone who's not a cRPG fan they're just not very interesting. Bethesda changed that by incorporating their own FPS open world design and streamlining several original systems. They brought the franchise to a much wider audience, and that's a fact.
It's also a fact that they didn't want to stop there. From FO3 to 4, then to 76, the goal of the studio has been painfully obvious. They don't just want more players. They want all of them, even at the expense of what made their previous titles and the entire franchise so interesting in the first place. Obviously, their latest endeavor has backfired. Hope they see it not as an insult but an opportunity.
@Grym I Agree however, if companies don't cater to a wider audience these days, then they either get in financial difficulty or don't get the recognition. Games cost far more money and time to develop these days, due to them being larger and having more overheads. So, companies simply have to make money and if they don't, they go under.....just like Interplay (Black Isle Studios) did, years ago. The fact is Crpg's are (and always were) very risky investments, since they have such a very niche market. They are never going to sell millions of copies and so, will never have a big budget to spend or a large development team. The only companies that will even touch them these days, are small Indy studios, which is ok, until these companies produce a financial flop (which is very easy to do in a niche market). This recently happen to both Obsidian and InXile, who where both at tipping point and about to go bankrupt, until Microsoft threw them a life line, at the very last minute.
If they wanted to survive, then they really should have taken a leaf out of Larian Studios book (Divinity games), who realized this, a few years ago when they were at the tipping point. What they did was to not only bring several modern twists to the genre, but also, catered to the wider audience (console users)
Honestly, some people think that Fallout is bad, under Bethesda, but if I remember correctly, the only other party that showed interest in the Fallout IP, when Interplay went bankrupt, was Activision..........now try to imagine that.
I bought the original 2 with no true prior knowledge of crpgs. It’s surprisingly easy to get into.
Yeah i agree without Bethesda there would be no fallout new vegas
Several things can be true at the same time - the big contributions bethesda made in bringing fallout to where it is today...i am also glad they took the plunge and tried out something new with fallout 76, expanding their toolkit even when this experiment clearly failed
nemesis7884 I enjoyed it but it was super buggy
I saw fallout 3 as having the best atmosphere in the series and Fallout NV and 2 being the best RPGs.
Good point and very interesting video!
New Vegas is just as good at environmental storytelling. Examples: the cutlery that's fallen through the floor of the BoS bunker, the survivalist and his logs, and locations like the Devil's Throat. Also, though all of the best quests can occur as part of the main quest, very few of them are essential components of the main quest, and most of them can be started and completed outside of the main quest. I do think 3 gives has a richer environment to explore, but I think this has a lot to do with Obsidian's limited development time/having to re-use old Fo3 assets.
hear hear
RIP 1997-2018
Fallout, Fallout 2, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4, Fallout 76
Goodbye Fallout
Bethesda and Obsidian needs to sit down, and talk about ideas and concepts for Fallout 5 and both work together on the project
I agree with everything you've said. You have been very fair on your cases and don't just hate or praise one of the two companies. I believe 3 and New Vegas are both equally as good. They both have their pros and cons just like all games on the planet. Thank you for this video, I think you just earned yourself a sub
Far Harbor will always be my favorite Fallout DLC of all time, even above Old World Blues which I've played like 5 times
That's good but my favorite is point lookout!
Bethesda is compared with immersive sims? Lol u mad bro?
Have you seen the characters In 3?
Thank you! So many people always shut down Bethesda in fallout. But few try see both sides equally like you and I.
The gaming community needs to calm down. Sometimes games are bad, even if it’s an IP and a developer you love they are human and sometimes have bad ideas. This doesn’t mean Todd Howard is the devil, we should voice our criticism calmly, and hope the next game is better.
I like your veiw on this.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with Bethesda's track record. Fans have been voicing their criticisms in the past with almost every game Bethesda has released and have yet to see most of them addressed in any meaningful way. Fo76 is simply the straw that broke the camel's back. I mean, Todd Howard even joked about it during Fo76's reveal. At that point, a lot of people weren't finding it funny anymore.
No. People have already voiced their criticism somewhat calmly before. Bethesda continues to fuck up, and LIED about 76. That doesn't deserve calm criticism.
Fallout 3 is the best one. Loved how they added Harold from Fallout 1 into the game as a tree. The music and atmosphere makes it stand out from the rest
Tranquility Lane was the best mission I’ve ever played in a game ever! It was creepy, interesting, and fun!
Just imagine the possibilities if FO76 was an actual single-player fallout game, the setting of west virginia could've been so intresting if it was used properly.
Sick of the debate between 3 and NV. Fallout 3 set the framework for NV, both are incredible Fallout games. 4 was decent despite some moaners around it, it was never going to live up to the crazy hype but I still have a ridiculous amount of time within the game.
BGS have been great for Fallout at bringing the series into the modern gaming era. Hoping for a solid game with Fallout 5 due to the slamming of 76 recently.
Excellent analysis.
I'm sorry the comments are filled with lurkers who only want to fling poo at the interweb's chosen boogeyman du jour instead of complimenting you on your work.
yeah far harbor is the best fallout thing bethesda ever did in my opinion. im glad someone else agrees. Too many people i know refused to give it a chance after the initial let down they felt from fallout 4 and it saddens me greatly. I only hope that after the fallout 76 experiments maybe 5 years from now when they actually give us a proper fallout again, it will be structured and written as well as that dlc was.
Can't wait for the companion video: "Bethesda's Deduction from the Fallout Series"
Great vid as always but I have to disagree about fallout 4s only intresting quests in the main story that you dont get from just exploring. There are a bunch of quests that you can only find out about from exploring separate to the main quest, Cabot house, silver shroud etc. etc.
I'm playing fallout 3 for the first time. Can't believe it's a 10 year old game. Plays great in 4k on One X
I just only played 8 hours with Fallout 4 games. But I like Fallout 76 very much. Because we can play with friends. Experience adventure, funny situations together. Together to fight and win and discover everything
Yeah but since the games is almost sandbox you have to imagine those situations wich is completely stupid
Really good video, FO3 was my favorite, I might try FO76 but I’m pretty turned off from it. Also, ur right far harbor was amazing, it made me feel something for the characters like FO3 and let me explore, if only they would remake FO3...
Most people who claim Bethesda ruined the Fallout franchise haven’t even played Fallout 1 & 2.
Interplay created the Fallout world. Bethesda brought us face-to-face with it.
This motivated me to replay fallout 3 for the first time in years.
They revived it, and built the framework/80% of the assets in New Vegas.
What about my uncle and all of his artwork, Adam Adamowicz
Todd Howard confirmed Starfield and ES6 will use the same engine as FO4
Bethesda honestly even the great at environmental story telling. For example, the fucking diner in Fallout 4 where you see a family hold up against some chem dealers. They're supposed to be using the diner as a their own shop, but just looking at the diner you'd never guess that. They even still have skeletons in the food booths! Why wouldn't they clear those out?! And one famous option is how Rivet City in fallout 3 doesn't seem to have any way to get their own food.
I've always looked at Fallout 76 as a proof of concept for Bethesda multiplayer. I just hope they have a new game engine for Elder Scrolls VI
The only good thing they did to Fallout was "saving" it from death in the past but ever since Fallout 3 they did nothing but damaged the franchise. That's right, Fallout 3 was LITERALLY the only good thing they did to Fallout. LITERALLY...Oh yes, they also allowed Obsidian to develop arguably the best Fallout game and let modders do as they please which lead to such amazing projects such as Fallout New California, Frontier, Cascadia, Miami or 4 New Vegas being worked on too i guess but other than that? They've been killing it. At this point the only purpose Bethesda has with Fallout is to deliver proper tools for the modder so THEY can develop a proper Fallout game. Nothing beyond that.
Great points. while I certainly have had my issue with Bethesda personally I'm not using Fallout's 76 as a benchmark for where the company's going. Starfield on the other hand has a lot to prove to me.
No one is going to wait that long, it will be buried and forgotten
I would have never known what fallout was if Bethesda didn't optain the license and make FO3. I thank them for that.
I like each for different purposes.
76 is one of favorites now Cuz i get least bored in it and ive always wanted a online fallout.
They have alot of badass things from older fallout also
omg all this people hating the game. Treat this sequel as a expansion .its not the real game just a fun multiplayer experiment. Nothing more.
What I like the most about 76 is the narrative I make with other
I was fairly disappointed with fallout 4, however when far harbour came out it got me exited, it was actually fallout. I couldn't wait for the two other large dlcs that were promised by Bethesda, however when nuka world came out and soon after they said that that was the last dlc that made me bitter, it was even more empty than fo4 in many ways and I couldn't see how they managed to screw everything up after getting everything right in far harbour. One thing to add about the older fallout games ,far harbour and even the elder scrolls games when compared to fallout 4 and 76 is that the world feels organic, hard to explain but the Commonwealth just feels like a place with things in it and only a few real things at that, not an actual living world
Here's how it should've been (excluding the pc 1 and 2):
Fallout 3- This is cool
Fallout NV- Holy balls this is sick
Fallout 4- This is amazing!
Fallout 76- Holy shit this is great!
Reality:
Fallout 3- This is cool
Fallout NV- Holy Balls this is sick!
Fallout 4- ...what is this?
Fallout 76- ....we can't have nice things anymore.
unless Bethesda is perfectly content losing every bit of a respect they've ever garnered in the RPG genre (is fallout 76 even selling well? i just know damn well it's universally getting torn apart by critics and fans), they have no hope of ever reclaiming the throne CDPR has ousted them off.
they gotta really start stepping the fuck up or at least relegating story writing and characters to competent companies like Obsididan since all Bethesda is concerned about is world building. that's not even necessarily a slight at them because I think that's always been an area they've shined in and despite TES/Fallout degrading in many, many other regards in the past few installments, the worlds they've been building are constantly improving in quality and variety imo.
like New Vegas is by far my favorite entry in the fallout series, but fallout 4 objectively has a far more varied and unique wasteland and even fallout 3 does too to a degree.
I think at this point with the state of the series as it is, Bethesda is too unwilling to admit that they dont know Fallout as well as they thought they did.
Fallout 3 can be played over and over again because the game locks things away from you if you don’t have the skills
I find it funny how many people are complaining about 76 not having a story or its story being "bad" simply because of the lack of human npc's. 76 probably has some of the best storyTELLING simply by not having an NPC spout exposition for 10 minute intervals. The story is spread out across the world and is interconnected across the ENTIRE region. In movies we complain about exposition dumps but it's funny that in games we seem to be annoyed when story is delivered in anything but.
lmao having a holotape literally just tell you what happened is still exposition
@@mathewhuff1157 You sir, should look up what exposition is. Literally any medium that conveys information is exposition. The difference is organic exposition versus weak exposition. Piecing together a story organically by discovering different parts in an order unique to you ORGANICALLY builds out the story and engages the player in its telling because YOU put it together. There is nothing engaging about Preston Garvey telling me the entire history of the Minutemen in a 20 minute dialogue tree... Not to say dialogue trees can't deliver information in an interesting way (Far Harbor is a great example of this), just that 76 can ALSO tell a compelling narrative too without them.
People in the comment section claiming they're Fallout fans..Because of New Vegas
*NEVER EVEN TOUCHED OR PLAYED FALLOUT 1/2 THEIR ENTIRE LIVES WHICH IS TURNED BASED* lmao
RIP Fallout. Bethesda clearly didn't understand their fans. Just look at the basketball videos on their channel. WTF?!
Mark B 76ers...fallout 76 and there’s actually a lot of basketball and fallout fans out there.
I can't give them a free pass on this money grab. As you stated they have or had the skill to deliver but instead they want 60 bones for this. It shouldn't carry the Fallout name but it was the only way they could hope to sell it. They have lost their way and it may be time to let Obsidian have at it again instead of butchering it.
They made it a big franchise. Without Bethesda the series would've probably died out or nothing major.
I think too many people who are fans of one game get too into their own head and cant accept anything else tbh. Fallout 3 is in my top 5 games of all times. Fallout 4 and 76 are so fucking amazing and I couldn't be more happier with these games and being able to play how I want. NV was good, but the only thing I preferred about it was how they brought weapon customization into it. Which 4 and 76 have but way better.
Shhhh.... you are likely to be hung by this fan base for stating your opinion supporting the games. Like the Star wars fan base.
Far Harbor is without a doubt Bethesda's Magnum Opus.
And though I would love them to do a full Fallout game of the like, I don't have hope for it.
I know they are capable, but hoping for something that I am almost certain will never come just seems like an unrealistic waste of time.
The only reason Fallout 76 will eventually be good is because of fan and gamer outrage.
Not in any way because Bethesda has the passion to.
And that's why I don't have hope for Bethesda.
They have already exhausted it.
its my opinion that they fucked up regarding PVP. they should have made it a toggle. where you are either in PVP or you aren't. OR, made PVP servers. its cool to explore and build and have stuff to do, but in the end. (IMO) i want to see how well i can do with all this stuff i now have. let me go out and find people to kill, to loot. and with looting, make it to where only like 10% or 5% of their stuff is lootable. so they can find your house, kill your turrets, break down the door. find your storage locker and after all that give them something for their efforts. have them have access to like 5% of all your stuff. and then add something in to where they can't loot you again for a week or something. if they happen to find you again later, and they kill your turret and break down your door, and open your stash, it will just be empty. OR make it to where you cant be looted more then once a day. this game is just missing the human element IMO.
I guess i am one of the few people who loves more exploration and a bit of story to get things moving forward. I played the original Fallouts and loved them. But then when i heard Bethesda, after Oblivion, was making Fallout, i was stoked for it. And they delivered. Fallout 3 was every bit amazing for a person who likes exploration. People hated the metros but the tense feeling of going into one and encountering raiders, ferals, super mutants was amazing. The map felt very lively right from Dunwich to Nuka cola museum. Though BoS were portrayed as nutjobs in previous games, they felt like knights in shining armor in FO3.
As we moved to Fallout NV, it was full of story and massive but amazing writing. But being a 3D game, same gamebryo engine, it felt very empty. Agreed there was a desert but there was no compulsion to actually go anywhere and explore. There were many factions and choices, but nothing seemed important at the end and watching NCR having their own trivial issues and delusional Legion, there was nothing left in the game form me. The hyped Vegas was barely 3 areas and quite underwhelming. I enjoyed the DLCs more cause the areas seemed much better.
Then came TESV:Skyrim and then FO4. I felt the games becoming dumbed down each iteration...probably cause of heavy console focus. Also the exploration and side quests or faction quests were quite small unlike Fo3 and Oblivion (the dark brotherhood and Fighters guild have long questlines). But as an exploratory game, they were fun. Creation engine looked very good back then. Even if the story is not strong, the game worlds kept me occupied.
And alas we have FO76. it gives me mixed feelings. it has everything for exploration and it just feels like an extremely huge area was added to FO4 (and i hope someday modders add applachia to FO4). if you play for too long , you feel right at home for a Bethesda game. but i didnt get the point of online multiplayer considering the map is so huge, you see a person hardly once in 2 hours and they just wave and go their separate ways. its as like playing a single player game.I understand the story tells you why the map is empty and it feels good to know how BoS started (a modification in lore is fine since its not like obsidian is ever going to go back and write it). I really hope we get to bring BoS or Enclave back to Applachia, and maybe Bethesda starts adding such DLCs to populate the world back with NPCs. As far as creation engine is considered, its buggy but the areas look amazing, especially the mire is creepy like Far harbor.
Fallout 1 is the real game. I want isometric view back.
I'd take a game made with authentic Fallout 1 spirit even if it was made in the Gamebryo engine. Fallout New Vegas isn't that game.
I'd love to try that honestly, I tried to play Fallout 1 a while ago and I honestly didn't understand the controls but this is coming from someone who has over 1600hrs in Fallout NV so in general I don't understand how older games work.
@@Dwevy
_"I'd love to try that honestly, I tried to play Fallout 1 a while ago and I honestly didn't understand the controls but this is coming from someone who has over 1600hrs in Fallout NV so in general I don't understand how older games work."_
I can understand that. The old CRPGs were deliberately made like tabletop pen-and-paper RPGs, so you need to actually read the instructions to understand the menus and the like. I was raised with a Windows 3.1 PC and my first exposure to consoles was a SNES, so I have a bit of an advantage when it comes to understanding older games.
@@Idazmi7 Yeah I guess it's just a generational thing really. My kids in the future might look at Fallout New Vegas and say "Oh it's too old and I don't get the controls" as well.
@@Dwevy
That's very likely. New Vegas is already at the point where people will dismiss it on graphics alone. That's why I consider myself lucky to have experienced older games first: I don't have any age-related gaming stigmas, and can play NES or Nintendo Switch with equal respect for the game itself.
If you want your kids to be able to do the same, make sure that their first introduction to gaming is older games and systems. Let them get accustomed to those first, then upgrade later on.
I liked FO3's main story more than NV's, but I also liked how open-ended NV's story was.
Personally, I don’t think there’s a game series with such interesting lore. The 50’s retro futurism that is tailored to the series was introduced with Fallout 3. The original 2 had 50’s music but that was it. It had modern weaponry that you would see an any other shooter, but with some laser weapons. I feel the greatest thing Bethesda brought to the table was the wacky 1950’s theme that made it stand out from other post apocalyptic titles.
I know, you could teach a whole history class on that lore.