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An American here - Gordon is a personal hero of mine. I lived in Khartoum for almost a year in my mid-twenties, back in 1993, and I discovered his story there, and became intrigued by his personal story. I'm glad I had the opportunity to live in Sudan when I did, and to have the experience I did, and I can feel a bit of his presence when I think back to my own time in Khartoum, which, though challenging, were absolutely nothing compared to the challenge he faced when he was there. This guy is a true hero.
Gordon was one of those special individuals with almost super-human self-discipline …He denied himself what most consider natural human needs & desires : Sex/intimacy ; alcohol; money; status…even food, engaging in regular fasting….Throughout history, this type of individual has tended to fall into one of two categories : Authoritarian zealot or, as was the case with Gordon, one who denies self by working for the good of others…. I have never had anything but the greatest respect for the man-and have never read a word against him from his many contemporaries ….He was universally respected-especially by the native soldiers that he led….Gordon deserved the accolades he received at the time….Still does.
@@SynapseDriven - as a gay man myself, I tend to agree with you on that. And to me that makes him even more human and relatable. I lived in Khartoum for the greater part of 1993 when I was in my early 20s, and I first learned about him during that time, and have held him in high regard ever since. I suspect he may have been gay, and he probably denied himself the kind of personal life that most people (now) take for granted. But he lived with purpose and accomplished great things in his life. It is especially interesting how he went up against the Mahdi, and they had this very interesting correspondence where each of them tried to convert the other to their respective religion! While each of them regarded the other as an "infidel" they each respected the other in their own convictions. It's a conversation you can't even imagine taking place now.
@@markthompson180As he lead the ultra disciplined life of Professional Officer Soldier,Engineer and Diplomat ( which kept him slightly busy,travelling around the World) why couldn't he be described as a Repressed Heterosexual?
@@jerryoshea3116 - because, for one, plenty of men in the military and in the diplomatic corps have had heterosexual relationships - society encourages it. It's seen as "normal." But if you are not exactly straight, especially in that time, it was not acceptable to be in a same-sex relationship, but the signs are there if you know what you are looking at.
I can sit in my chair all day and talk about how colonialism and imperialism are not good things to for strive for, but I’m aware that I would never be capable of this guy’s fortitude and discipline
Fantastic to have the context and detail for another historical figure whom I knew only by name. Until now 'Gordon' was just a passing reference in 'The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: The Empty house' Watson - "You mean you actually saw the palace where Gordon was murdered?" Holmes - "It was a sorry sight. His blood...still upon the staircase" He certainly seems to have been a rare gem in being a man of military and political power/influence, who also had integrity, humility and a caring heart. Hardly surprising then that he met such a tragic end... it seems the lot of such individuals.
We all wish we could hear the voice of a Gibbon, Macaulay or even Burke in the telling of British and world history, yet this profile narrator is more than qualified in that regard. Another 1st rate production on a character that will long remain reverent to many. Beautiful imagery from all the relevant footsteps of Gordon's illustrious career made this a visual feast also. It would be interesting to know how Egyptian,Turkish and Chinese history write about his legacy today.
Magnificent video, really complete! I came here after watching the movie with Charlton Heston, I don’t regret! What a fantastic period for the UK, France and other western countries, and how incredible were these men, Gordon, Wolseley, Kitchener, Marchand, etc. Men that we can hardly find nowadays in the west…
A religious man who eschewed wealth and power; neither judgmental nor pontifical; without avarice or corruption; yet charitable, altruistic and merciful...that makes him truly singular, exceptional and exemplary. Pitiable that he was a 'receding circle of light in a world of gathering darkness'.
Phenomenal man with an appetite for action, an enigmatic motive for rebellion against hierarchy and a strong contender for the rank of British hero. Wonderful presentation and revelation of the facts.
I was about 5 years old when my mother took us 3 boys to watch the movie ""Khartoum " at this movie house in Dodoma in Tanzania ( formerly Tanganyka ) and forever its been my favourite movie ever since
There's good classic movie called "Khartoum" starring Charlton Heston as Gordon. In the Sherlock Holmes novels and movies, Holmes has a portrait of General Gordon in his flat in Baker street.
I first read about Gordon in the anthology Eminent Victorians as a child and becoming hooked on history. I still have the book along with a Latin primer both of which belonged to my grandfather .
I just wanted to exact an error in the doc. Being a Muslim I do not believe in the so called muslim messiah. We Muslims condemn him as he is not the real Muslim messiah. So I strongly and in the name of Islam believe that Gordon did not die as just a Christian defending his own faith but as some one who died. as a defender of Islam as mehdi was a false prophet or a Muslim messiah. So I believe that Gordon was martyred as a defender of Christian and Muslim faith alike. I applaud his sincerity and his stand against that false messiah. We are waiting fit for the real messiah and denounce that mehdi.
You definitely need to do a video on Richard Francis Burton. The book Burton by Byron Farwell is fantastic as all his books are. I also recommend everything by Alan Moorehead, such as Cooper's Creek and Fatal Impact.
Few in Thw west have heard od the Tai Ping rebellion. That the Chinese helped destroy the Tai Ping heresy is important in the history of Christianity. That both Christians and Chinese were embarrassed by the rebellion and wish to forget it is certain. One thing that stays in the mind is the numbers of dead in Chinese civil wars. Battles in the west are considered brutal if 10000 or more are lost. In China it's not unusual for the raising of a city to cost a million lives.
I found this very informative and well presented, however I was stunned when the subject of sexuality came up. WTF, why can't a mans private life be left...private? It happens all the time now we seem so focused below the waist, very sad. Thanks for the video.
An extrodinary man. In 1898 when British troops invaded the Sudan there was (still) such a strength of feeling towards the general that Kichener, who led the expedition, ordered that the Mahdi's tomb be completely destroyed. His exhumed corpse was then (postumously) decapitated. It was a scandal then as it would be today, but such was the emotional connection between the nation and our fallen colonial General that honor demanded some recompense for his death.
[13] But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, [14] and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just." Luke 14:13-14
Can you imagine politicians saying oh that's too much give me a lot less this is fair or corporations and traders we are charging you more than we should so we will lower to a fair price!? Wouldn't happen but shows what a man Gordon was!
Thank you for your wonderful videos of historical persons 🌻 hope to see independent reviews of our Vietnamese 🇻🇳 past leaders, generals & emperors🌹 Thank you ❣️
Second that. Vietnam is only known in the West for the Vietnam War despite having a rich history. Cambodia, Laos, Burma, Bhutan are some other neglected countries in our historiography.
@@aaronclarke1434 agreed that countries in South East Asia often are "forgotten" by historians. My country, Vietnam 🇻🇳, is luckily not easily forgotten due to long centuries of struggles with China & recent years with western powers 🇺🇸🇫🇷
How come the BBC hasn't done GORDON OF KHARTOUM the series it would be in the umpteenth year & just now getting to CHINA TO BAD EASTWOOD IS 100 HE'D MAKE A HELLA GORDON!!!
The reason a lot of humans don’t know of Gordon is due to ignorance of history which shaped our world as it is today. A lot of young people don’t even know much about WW2!!! What are our new generations coming to. Self importance ignorance. It’s Disgraceful!!!!!
Here we go again with this same commentators 'Fixation' about the Subjects sexuality. Is the Commentator also going to pry into the Apostle Saint Pauls sexuality as well considering that he did not marry ? Maybe the Commentator should read the Bible regarding those who are called by God to remain unmarried.
Siege of Khartoum is pretty accurately depicted in a move, entitled "Khartoum (1966)," starring Charleton Heston, as Gordon, and Lawrence Olivier as the Mahdi. Neither of them gave a particularly great performance, but the movie isn't too bad. It seems to be historically accurate. Great documentary.
Probably the first time I remember hearing about Gordon was the movie with Charlton Hester my question is am I the only one out there that sees are remarkable resemblance between the two of them
He was certainly a great and noble man who tried to live his christian beliefs. At the end, I will say that he perhaps should have asked the Mahdi if he left, could he also evacuate all of the garrison and the civilians who wished to come with him. But he still hoped almost until the end that a British relief force would arrive in time. It is too bad he didn't leave.
The chap betrayed Chinese Christians did he not - preferring war-tech? and then - in Sudan - advertised his every move to the Mahdi and not surprisingly met the sharp point of a spear directed at him. Had some unhelpful attitudes to ‘natives’ too!
Lack of strategic and staff ability. Inability to appreciate the strength of the enemy and his own weakness. Failure to withdraw in time with far fewer casualties. Ignorance the great danger that a rescue force runs into the enemy territory. Generallly bad mimilitary choices
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Gordon was a man that knew where he was going. He never deviated from duty nor from what was right. EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
An American here - Gordon is a personal hero of mine. I lived in Khartoum for almost a year in my mid-twenties, back in 1993, and I discovered his story there, and became intrigued by his personal story. I'm glad I had the opportunity to live in Sudan when I did, and to have the experience I did, and I can feel a bit of his presence when I think back to my own time in Khartoum, which, though challenging, were absolutely nothing compared to the challenge he faced when he was there. This guy is a true hero.
Khartoum. Wow, I can only imagine what that was like.
Yet the US fought the British for independence.
I went to Gordons School and was in Khartoum house
You Imperialist schwein !! !!
Fun fact. Sherlock Holmes is also a fan of Gordon and has his portrait in 221B Baker street apartment, in Conan Doyle's books.
Gordon was one of those special individuals with almost super-human self-discipline …He denied himself what most consider natural human needs & desires : Sex/intimacy ; alcohol; money; status…even food, engaging in regular fasting….Throughout history, this type of individual has tended to fall into one of two categories : Authoritarian zealot or, as was the case with Gordon, one who denies self by working for the good of others….
I have never had anything but the greatest respect for the man-and have never read a word against him from his many contemporaries ….He was universally respected-especially by the native soldiers that he led….Gordon deserved the accolades he received at the time….Still does.
@@SynapseDriven - as a gay man myself, I tend to agree with you on that. And to me that makes him even more human and relatable. I lived in Khartoum for the greater part of 1993 when I was in my early 20s, and I first learned about him during that time, and have held him in high regard ever since. I suspect he may have been gay, and he probably denied himself the kind of personal life that most people (now) take for granted. But he lived with purpose and accomplished great things in his life. It is especially interesting how he went up against the Mahdi, and they had this very interesting correspondence where each of them tried to convert the other to their respective religion! While each of them regarded the other as an "infidel" they each respected the other in their own convictions. It's a conversation you can't even imagine taking place now.
@@markthompson180As he lead the ultra disciplined life of Professional Officer Soldier,Engineer and Diplomat ( which kept him slightly busy,travelling around the World) why couldn't he be described as a Repressed Heterosexual?
@@jerryoshea3116 - because, for one, plenty of men in the military and in the diplomatic corps have had heterosexual relationships - society encourages it. It's seen as "normal." But if you are not exactly straight, especially in that time, it was not acceptable to be in a same-sex relationship, but the signs are there if you know what you are looking at.
I can sit in my chair all day and talk about how colonialism and imperialism are not good things to for strive for, but I’m aware that I would never be capable of this guy’s fortitude and discipline
@@Haydn_Shew97 He was Impressive to say the least!
“If you tell the truth, you have infinite power; but if not, you have infinite power against you”
Charles George Gordon
Jesus is the truth! Hallelujah!
I love how Napoleon Bonaparte finds his way into every documentary, no matter who the subject is.
Spot on Sir
I take pride in my military knowledge, but never thought of that 👍👍👍
Napoleon was the eminent grise of the 19th century.
I remember watching an old movie called Kartoom that was based on his later life. Thank you for putting this person in perspective.
I saw the movie at the movies in Dodoma Tanzania when I was about 5 years old - my favourite ever since
Fantastic to have the context and detail for another historical figure whom I knew only by name. Until now 'Gordon' was just a passing reference in 'The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: The Empty house'
Watson - "You mean you actually saw the palace where Gordon was murdered?"
Holmes - "It was a sorry sight. His blood...still upon the staircase"
He certainly seems to have been a rare gem in being a man of military and political power/influence, who also had integrity, humility and a caring heart. Hardly surprising then that he met such a tragic end... it seems the lot of such individuals.
I've been there. Lived in Khartoum as a kid
Wasn't Gordon a Scotsman??
I believe General Gordon was a wonderful leader and did so much for different people of different cultures
May he RIP and May the lord bless his soul.
Gordon was one of the greatest Englishmen of all time.
Charles George Gordon was my Dad's Great Uncle.
We all wish we could hear the voice of a Gibbon, Macaulay or even Burke in the telling of British and world history, yet this profile narrator is more than qualified in that regard. Another 1st rate production on a character that will long remain reverent to many. Beautiful imagery from all the relevant footsteps of Gordon's illustrious career made this a visual feast also. It would be interesting to know how Egyptian,Turkish and Chinese history write about his legacy today.
A very good compliment to this video is the Movie "Khartoum" 1966. If you haven't seen it, its quite good. Charlton Heston and Laurence Olivier.
What a man! Simply no words to describe how awesome he was
He sounded like a Saint. And quite possibly the last of a dying breed.
Wow, I didn't realise that there was so much to this man, he was very great.
Magnificent video, really complete! I came here after watching the movie with Charlton Heston, I don’t regret! What a fantastic period for the UK, France and other western countries, and how incredible were these men, Gordon, Wolseley, Kitchener, Marchand, etc. Men that we can hardly find nowadays in the west…
A religious man who eschewed wealth and power; neither judgmental nor pontifical; without avarice or corruption; yet charitable, altruistic and merciful...that makes him truly singular, exceptional and exemplary. Pitiable that he was a 'receding circle of light in a world of gathering darkness'.
A truly soldier of genuine mind and extraordinary characteristics .We are proud of him a man of the earth.
Phenomenal man with an appetite for action, an enigmatic motive for rebellion against hierarchy and a strong contender for the rank of British hero. Wonderful presentation and revelation of the facts.
I was about 5 years old when my mother took us 3 boys to watch the movie ""Khartoum " at this movie house in Dodoma in Tanzania ( formerly Tanganyka ) and forever its been my favourite movie ever since
I have never heard of this guy but he sure was interesting! Thank you very much 😊
There's good classic movie called "Khartoum" starring Charlton Heston as Gordon. In the Sherlock Holmes novels and movies, Holmes has a portrait of General Gordon in his flat in Baker street.
How is this guy not very well known to many (or at least people like me) is shocking
Gordon has a nice statue on the green on the Embankment.
Another General, like Kitchener.
Was never found, so we could honour his tomb.
I first read about Gordon in the anthology Eminent Victorians as a child and becoming hooked on history. I still have the book along with a Latin primer both of which belonged to my grandfather .
I just wanted to exact an error in the doc. Being a Muslim I do not believe in the so called muslim messiah. We Muslims condemn him as he is not the real Muslim messiah. So I strongly and in the name of Islam believe that Gordon did not die as just a Christian defending his own faith but as some one who died. as a defender of Islam as mehdi was a false prophet or a Muslim messiah. So I believe that Gordon was martyred as a defender of Christian and Muslim faith alike.
I applaud his sincerity and his stand against that false messiah.
We are waiting fit for the real messiah and denounce that mehdi.
that's an interesting perspective. Given how he was beheaded and his body cast down a well the assumption might be he was a figure hated by muslims
Chinese Gordon. What a legend. Lest we forget
"Them fuzzy wuzzies, they don't like it up 'em. They don't like it up 'em."
- Lance Corporal Jones, Walmington on Sea.
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Fantastic portrait!
The only way I knew about him was from the movie with Charleton Heston.
You definitely need to do a video on Richard Francis Burton. The book Burton by Byron Farwell is fantastic as all his books are. I also recommend everything by Alan Moorehead, such as Cooper's Creek and Fatal Impact.
When I was at school in the 70s one of the school houses was named Gordon after him.
In an era of paper heroes, Gordon of Khartoum was the real thing.
The British always accused of slavery I but never get praised for stopping it world wide
Ive always admired Chinese Gordon, but I never knew he was working in my country Mauritius.
He had the courage to do what he thought was right, sadly lacking in the world today.
The Courage Of Achilles
Few in Thw west have heard od the Tai Ping rebellion. That the Chinese helped destroy the Tai Ping heresy is important in the history of Christianity. That both Christians and Chinese were embarrassed by the rebellion and wish to forget it is certain.
One thing that stays in the mind is the numbers of dead in Chinese civil wars. Battles in the west are considered brutal if 10000 or more are lost. In China it's not unusual for the raising of a city to cost a million lives.
The best narrator on this channel, imo
I’m just kind of surprised that Francis Ford Coppola hasn’t decided to make his own movie about the siege of the city of Khartoum in 1885.
Absolute Chad. What an amazing life of adventure, glory, and honor.
A great man, in my view, who tried his bast to make the world he lived in a better place.
Charlton Heston did a good job portraying Gordon in the movie Kartom
The correct spelling is K-H-A-R-T-O-U-M.
I found this very informative and well presented, however I was stunned when the subject of sexuality came up. WTF, why can't a mans private life be left...private? It happens all the time now we seem so focused below the waist, very sad. Thanks for the video.
An extrodinary man.
In 1898 when British troops invaded the Sudan there was (still) such a strength of feeling towards the general that Kichener, who led the expedition, ordered that the Mahdi's tomb be completely destroyed. His exhumed corpse was then (postumously) decapitated.
It was a scandal then as it would be today, but such was the emotional connection between the nation and our fallen colonial General that honor demanded some recompense for his death.
Know it all Politicians so far from the front can be blamed for the Generals death.
It makes me wonder what Gordon would have made of Leopolds abomination in the Congo. And what he could have made of it.
Great documentary of an impressing man
Love your content guys! Please do napoleon III
La Petite
Have you done a portrait on Roald Amendson
?
Amazing. I just found this story on my UA-cam suggestions. Great narration. Can this guy please also do "The Wind in The Willows?" 😅
Wow I just watched the movie Khartoum last night this is amazing timing
[13] But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, [14] and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just." Luke 14:13-14
Can you imagine politicians saying oh that's too much give me a lot less this is fair or corporations and traders we are charging you more than we should so we will lower to a fair price!? Wouldn't happen but shows what a man Gordon was!
Thank you for your wonderful videos of historical persons 🌻 hope to see independent reviews of our Vietnamese 🇻🇳 past leaders, generals & emperors🌹 Thank you ❣️
Second that. Vietnam is only known in the West for the Vietnam War despite having a rich history. Cambodia, Laos, Burma, Bhutan are some other neglected countries in our historiography.
We will, promise.
@@PeopleProfiles Thank you very much, sir ❣️
@@georgepatton93 Yes, agreed with you! I hope to see too 🌹
@@aaronclarke1434 agreed that countries in South East Asia often are "forgotten" by historians. My country, Vietnam 🇻🇳, is luckily not easily forgotten due to long centuries of struggles with China & recent years with western powers 🇺🇸🇫🇷
Can you do a video on King abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia, please? He's a very historical figure and a major leading character in the 20th century.
You show part of a french map at 1H11Ms. Would you kindly give us all its URL. I have tried to find it but failed.
Gordon of Khartoum was born into a Scottish Military family .
Absolute Bad Ass
Gordon was a product of the British arrogance of empire, but he conducted himself honorably. Always, so it seems.
How come the BBC hasn't done GORDON OF KHARTOUM the series it would be in the umpteenth year & just now getting to CHINA TO BAD EASTWOOD IS 100 HE'D MAKE A HELLA GORDON!!!
The reason a lot of humans don’t know of Gordon is due to ignorance of history which shaped our world as it is today. A lot of young people don’t even know much about WW2!!! What are our new generations coming to. Self importance ignorance. It’s Disgraceful!!!!!
Brilliant ✌️
Remember Gordon.
Not a big fan of gin.
Evelyn Baring and Sir Garnet Wolseley were Inspiring Leaders based in Cairo Egypt
Here we go again with this same commentators 'Fixation' about the Subjects sexuality. Is the Commentator also going to pry into the Apostle Saint Pauls sexuality as well considering that he did not marry ? Maybe the Commentator should read the Bible regarding those who are called by God to remain unmarried.
Seems historians always have to say oh a man didn’t marry or was labeled as odd during his life must be gay.
I think putting religion aside,Gordon was just a very morale man in a time time when morality was rare.
William IV was hardly childless. He had something like 10 children by his mistress, actress Dorothy Jordan. He just didn't have legitimate kids.
Awesome, always recommend your channel. Would be nice to hear female narrators as well.
Siege of Khartoum is pretty accurately depicted in a move, entitled "Khartoum (1966)," starring Charleton Heston, as Gordon, and Lawrence Olivier as the Mahdi. Neither of them gave a particularly great performance, but the movie isn't too bad. It seems to be historically accurate. Great documentary.
Especially since the real Madhi died several months after Gordon perished.
Probably the first time I remember hearing about Gordon was the movie with Charlton Hester my question is am I the only one out there that sees are remarkable resemblance between the two of them
In answer to the final question. Both things can be true!
Legend
Should not have come into the lions den 😅
He was certainly a great and noble man who tried to live his christian beliefs. At the end, I will say that he perhaps should have asked the Mahdi if he left, could he also evacuate all of the garrison and the civilians who wished to come with him. But he still hoped almost until the end that a British relief force would arrive in time. It is too bad he didn't leave.
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Gordon of Khartoum was far more of a fascinating and accomplished person than Lawrence of Arabia was
34:14 why are historians so obsessed with people being gay
He was B, a military adventurer. In the end he lead his men to certain death after refusing any chance to save them, in a hopeless battle.
This is also how I feel about him.
So your going to judge a man not based on his life but from one action? Nothing he did matters to you?
@@divebombexpert2619 In the end he was a bad leader.
What an interesting man, it could be said that he was a man of consequences.
The devil makes great use of idle hands....boy now we know what people got up to before TV radio and internet ....
Where is your head Gordon 😂😂
Yesss
Looks like Poal Newman
Had I served with the man, I should be better qualified to offer an opinion sir...
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The bullied becomes the bully.
STAFU it's Captain Zapp Bramnigan ❤
there never lived a greater British general
Cromwell, Wellington, John Churchill, Kitchener, Smuts, Allenby, Templer, Slim even Montgomery were at least has good and many were better.
God Save The King
God save north Africa and the afro asiatic people. Gods chosen
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Rrr indian film this from SSMB 29
I'm sure this is another great documentary from your team, but the voice of this particular narrator always makes your content unwatchable for me.
Chinese Gordon for me...
Glad be sudanese
Kurt Student
The chap betrayed Chinese Christians did he not - preferring war-tech? and then - in Sudan - advertised his every move to the Mahdi and not surprisingly met the sharp point of a spear directed at him. Had some unhelpful attitudes to ‘natives’ too!
If your talking about the Taiping they were not Christians. They were heretics.
*For the atrocities he commited in China, he paid for with his life in Sudan* 😂😂😂
Lack of strategic and staff ability. Inability to appreciate the strength of the enemy and his own weakness. Failure to withdraw in time with far fewer casualties. Ignorance the great danger that a rescue force runs into the enemy territory. Generallly bad mimilitary choices
Ah yes the Bad mimilitary Choices.
A glorified instrument of British imperialism that's what he was.
Lol get a grip.
A colonizer!
So?
True.
The sun has set on the British empire
Yes the evil colonizer that fought against slavery.