Jazz Saxophone Snob Attempts Classical Saxophone
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- When will the snobbery end? Probably never...
You asked for it - here is my second iteration of the sax snob episodes. Please remember that I am not being serious in the video; the snob character is the embodiment of many ridiculous things I've heard in my undergrad about the contrasting genre.
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"Dude its just about the vibe" 😂😂😂
I died at that part 😂
Hahahaha
😂😂😂
T h a t ' s a l l t h a t m a t t e r s
2:39
I lost it at “Jazz is commercially viable”
One time i had a gig that covered my parking for said gig
@@aaclar one time i had a gig that covered half of the gas money to get there
Damn bro, leave some money for the rest of us.
Actually, Classical outsells Jazz!
Ah yes a slice of pizza is enough to pay my rent.
*Classical saxophonist plays*
*Nathan creeps in* “Did Coltrane make that?”
Funny guy
I gotta be honest man, classical music with a jazz articulation sounds pretty awesome. If I had never heard the classical piece, I would think it was a legit "jazz" tune.
Same! Also your videos are great too.
I think it just sounds wrong and overall bad
Ive got a friend who can play Flight of the Bumblebee jazzy and its insane
Honestly, that lick from Concertino da Camera with jazz articulation would fit well in a solo
I’m specifically referring to 5:23
“Your sound is just nasally...like a clarinet”
Sadness
I am sorry!!!!!
@@Saxologic How dare you attack the clarinet :(
@@ericolens3 Nasally isn’t necessarily an insult. I like clarinet! The jazz snob is not who I am lol
*says phrase nasally*
@@ericolens3 bruh it’s a freaking joke
This classical player was chill but his technique definitely needs more eyebrows
-It needs more cow bells
Which one is the classical player
@@naomihannah7586 The one on the right.
😂😂😂
Kinda sucks how the classical orchestra doesnt include sax
yeah it does, so much opportunity wasted
In our Country It Does And It Sounds Great!
@@gijskikkert5761 From which country do you come from?
Netherlands
@@richardplate8255 Netherlands/Holland
Piece starting off with mezzo piano low c.
Jazz snob: DETONATE!!!!
😂😂😂
I had a solo piece last year that ended with a ppp Bb and decrescendos into silence. “Sonata for tenor saxophone and piano” mvmt 2 and 3. Being a high school student, this piece made me wanna light it on fire sometimes.
Love how he completely ignores the dynamics
LMAO and his face at 4:29
Playing Bach like that is Sacrilegious
Blasphemy!
laMentAblE
@@Saxologic Fellow cultured man sighted... 😂
welcome TSV initiate... 😂
Blasphe- damn it
you're sacrilegeous
Ngl the jazz version doesn't sound all that bad compared to the classical on the other video 😂
The classical saxophonist playing jazz ep almost made me pee my pants!! I was all classical until the end of my studies, and my sound was so uptight... still kind of is...
I like the brighter tone a bit but the scooping and the grace notes thrown in don't really work. However, the Creston played over the jazz chords was really cool and I would definitely listen to the whole sonata arranged that way!
@@BigAl72ZGE I sorta disagree. I think he made smart choices about where to put the scoops and grace notes. But the style is completely different lmao.
@@jarrickhillery8664 I agree they were musical choices, but they were so wrong for the style that it overall didn't work. The brighter tone probably wouldn't have bothered me though maybe I might have noticed something if I was listening to the whole piece played with that tone.
Another morgana... OUR BATTLE WILL BE LEGENDARY
Jazz snobs don't look at sheet music.
The classical saxophonist shouldn’t need the music either. True musicians don’t have their eyes glued onto the paper. Sight reading and doing stuff on the fly then okay reading is fine but if one is truly studying and performing any kind of music (classical or jazz), then you shouldn’t need the sheet music after a month of working of the pieces... and I bet my ass that the guy on the right has been studying these pieces for much longer than a month
Hey you never know, the snob community is a diverse one 😌
@@steveyin7929 uhh...
@@steveyin7929 I guess you must be a memorization snob
@@kennyr1161 ehhh I’ll own up to that haha
Not gonna lie- jazz sax on classical sax music doesn't sound bad at all...
Would beg to differ imo...
@@xadielbenejan8274 lol you do you
@@shaddjimenez4524 nah they wouldn’t get skinned alive because who the hell goes to concerts that feature the classical saxophone. There are barely any of those concerts to begin with
1000% agree
@@steveyin7929 actually the sax is so dang loud that at any concert, the way he was playing, it’ll be louder than literally everything there. (except the trumpets)
Can you please (somehow) make the Jazz Saxophone Snob meet the Classical Saxophone Snob?
Ah yes, the Jazzunov Concerto and Coltrane Sonata
Oh my goood :DD
I really appreciate how Saxologic respects classical AND jazz music styles. Too often musicians praise one and bash the other.
“You can’t just hack giant steps into the piece” 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jacob Bernat was the student teacher at my high school like 4 years ago:). He was universally loved by all the students and after he was gone we were all really upset.
He is great!!
MATT BAHAAHAHAHA
I can sense sarcasm
Props to you for not laughing after every sentence.
Every jump cut was me cutting out a laugh lol
you really spent the time to put coltrane changes over the creston, god DAMN how sacrilegious LMAO
Creston Steps
Giant Crest
Giant Crust
Crusty Steps
Giant Crest White Strips
Crest Tooth Paste
@@Saxologic 1 week later.... my professor just assigned me the Creston...
CRUSTY STEPS
I’ll say that creston and especially glazunov wouldn’t dig the jazz interpretations of their pieces but Ibert probably would’ve been all over it. Not only because the jazz version sounded better but ibert was inspired by jazz music when he wrote his saxophone concerto. The “jazz” interpretation of the creston and glazunov sounding better than the classical versions was definitely not meant to be (even though imo they did sound better) but the “jazz” interpretation sounding 300% better than the classical version of the ibert was no coincidence. Coming from the perspective of a classical saxophonist by the way
Honestly the Ibert kinda sounded cool lmao
Lol that first prelude Bach was rolling over in his grave 😂
classical snob vs jazz snob next?
He has already done it, it's great!
@Christian Jingco Oh yes you're right
@Christian Jingco Yes, that’s what I thought. Thanks for clearing it up!
I love how Nathan fits being a classical snob and a jazz snob WE GET IT YOUR TALENTED!!!
in the end kenny G has already defeated them both
With money yes. With talent no.
@@Roxanneredpanda my teacher actually knows Kenny G, met him back when he was still just getting into the scene, and apparently he had a ton of chops and was/is an amazing player. But you gotta pay the bills, so dude basically became the master of the pentatonic scales and made the music he liked
@@Roxanneredpanda Ehhh, he's actually just a sellout. He's got good chops.
Kelpy G
@@LowReedExpert1 Yeah, Kenny G is (or at least was) a master a jazz fusion. Check out almost any song he did with Jeff Lorber Fusion. Totally different than his mainstream stuff
It litterally says PIANISSIMO and he is blasting the notes out XDD
Bro, did you come up with Creston sonata over giant steps?! It’s crazy how well that fit with only a few note changes 😂
I was thinking the same thing 😂. That was lit 🔥
This is like the third person experience of someone trying to teach me classical sax 😂
"Sorry did I bore you?"
"Nah, I'm sorry it's just wrong."
You should make the two snobs meet and have a pointless but entertaining argument
Jacob actually graduated from the school where I go now, we have a plaque of him on the wall from when he went to state band!
Do you improvise?
Yeah, sometimes.
So you play..like...Giant Steps?
Ahh a classic xDD
"Did Coltrane make that or...."
my teacher was talking to me about the classical snob video. we were both so excited for this one and it did not disappoint! great job!
dude, it's the
*vibe*
Not Jacob being absolutely adorable in the bloopers🥺
“So you know, like... gIaNt sTePs” 😂😂
The opening of Ibert actually sounded pretty cool that way even if it did make me shrink back for a moment haha
35 years of classical saxophone playing, and I still really enjoyed those tunes in BOTH styles. Keep it up!!
those coltrane changes were a *V I B E*
Seriously though, Jacob tone sounds so good, and 4:30 sounds like a mix of cannonball and a johnny hodges ballad lol 😂
Agreed, that one actually sounded really nice.
The 4:30 part was hilarious with all those extra jazzy glizzs he added in and the over bearing stylistic vibrato was hilarious, he made Ibert sound so jazzy lmao.
The fact you were not hit in the face with a tuna shows a great deal of restraint from Jacob. Well done Jacob.
I just love the jazz sound you are getting with these classical language. Sometimes it felt something duke ellington could wrote. And the overal approach, sounds a lot like Coltrane or Kenny Garret. Man you make me want to steal all the classical lines and make them ''jazzy''.
Love your channel
Appreciate the kind comment man!!!
Band directors always complaining that trumpets are too loud yet you got this man
Only if you are a classic sax player you can get all the wrong in there😂 otherwise you can think it's okay like a lot of these comments omg... if Ibert or Creston heard these they would DIE again.
They definitely would die again lolll
Do some research on ibert’s sax concerto... he would actually love the jazz interpretation of his piece
@@micahmazzella it’s better to the cultural human ear. .. Western European music created a culture of conformity that isn’t really in most of the world music.
I am a still living classically trained clarinet player. My soul started leaving my body when he played Bach, and not in a good way
@@KCCCX Are you serious?
I love this because I am classical flute player, but I play jazz saxophone/flute, and this is exactly how I would imagine my internal battle going on in my head on how something is supposed to sound.
To me I've found sax is such a unique instrument because you can pick it up and within a few months be playing with a constant jazz feel (both in swing and note choice) that seems alien on other instruments. Perhaps it's because my own ears tell me 'this IS the jazz sound' when I hear it due to only listening to it in that context, but it feels very natural. Comparitavely, I started on guitar and it took me years to learn how to play jazz, mostly because it's not solely designed as solo instrument, and getting proper jazz feel with your wrist takes a long time.
Also holy shit, I had no idea you could make the saxophone sound like the classical guy, it literally sounds like a different instrument.
Yes exactly. The sound of saxophone is unbelievably versatile
You’ve done classical snob vs jazz player, you’ve done jazz snob vs classical player, now the thing we need is classical snob vs jazz snob
The thing is, we need classical saxophonists to sound like clarinets because god forbid a clarinet player uses vibrato.
I play both, and vibrato can sound good on clarinet, it jus takes a lot of practice
And my playing of classical sax was sorta unintentional
How do you get vibrato out of a clarinet? Your breath
@@avah9721 lol ava i found you
@@Yngsatchvaiik its been like 2 years since and you forgot about this comment but its your embouchure
@fortumon2570 wow learned q new word and everything.
Thanks 😊
“So you know Giant Steps”? 😂
Imagine the look on the jazz snob's face when he finds out that saxophone is also a regular in concert band.
LMAO the bebop articulation on the second part of the Glazunov concerto had me dead😂
I can vouch there’s people like this that ACTUALLY exists 🤦🏽♂️💀
"It's just about the vibe" absolutely murdered me 😂
The sequel we've all been waiting for. Bless🙏
“Did Coltrane make that?” HAHAHAHAHA
The Creston Sonata over Coltrane changes 😂😂😂 genius haha!
Love how one was arguing with reason and logic and the other was arguing with “it’s just wrong” and “that doesn’t matter”- a Sax player
When he attempted Bach but in a jazz "vibe" 🤣🤣
Jazz is salt water and classical is fresh water.. they are both beautiful and tasty fish in water
I don’t even play a brass/wind instrument but I love this. The whole Jazz vs. Classical thing (or literally any other style of music vs. Classical) is always hilarious 😆
This is literally just the right and left brain of a saxophone while practicing lol I always play my music in both styles to have fun lmao
Jazz makes everything sound better, change my mind
1:19
Bach: Dead again*
😂😂😂
These videos are the equivalent of "here, i've fixed your art"
No careless whisper. Unsub
Agreed
Lmaoooo haven’t heard that song in a minute
There are two kinds of people: "Who prefers the sound of jazz saxophone and who lies."
@@ericolens3 classical music is anything but rebellious. Jazz is the rebellious style of music 😂 it rebels against the strict guidelines of sheet music. 1920’s? The lost generation? Anti-Victorian mentality? Ever heard of it? Jazz stems from the loss of morality that the First World War caused. The kids rebelling and listening and dancing to jazz. Flapper girls and drinking and promiscuity. To say classical music is rebellious is to say that Coltrane or Davis wrote Beethoven’s 5th. It’s ridiculous and completely not true 😂 you can not like jazz that’s perfectly fine, but don’t act like classical music is rebellious. Thats poster child music 😂
@@christian5026 pretty sure they meant rebellious for them because they’re parents didn’t like it as much but otherwise you’re right of course
@@christian5026 Styles don't have rules-they have customs. When certain customs are abandoned, others appear.
@@christian5026 your comment just shows you don’t study classical 😂
Some of these were a bit...
*SACRILEGIOUS*
I N T E R E S T I N G
The jazz dude falling asleep... Lol
i found my people
@@samfenix welcome to the lingling outpost in the saxologic quadrant if youtube space
Sax-religious 😂
Haven’t heard these pieces in years since I played them in school - nice to hear them quoted, even as a gag!
yoooo I was laughing so hard when you started playing Ibert at 4:55 because I was just practicing his concerto last year before covid took over. My instructor would not be happy with wat you played to say the least 😂
Song name?
@@nikayahmonroe Concertino Da Camera for Alto Saxophone
Much as the discussions are no doubt tiring for players, it just goes to show the range and diversity of what you can get from the instrument. Awesome to see examples of what directions you can take with it creatively.
What we learned from this video: "It's just the vibe!!!" 😅🎷
Damn, that Coltrane Creston was legit impressive, classical and jazz saxophonists would make some amazing stuff if we didn't have so much gatekeeping.
I think both interpretations sounded really cool! Another great one, Nate!
NGL I love how both of you can jsut do both classical and jazz so damn well.. and encapsulate the snobbishness of both so well.
Yo why this man keep busting into peoples house’s, flexing his jazz self
I think it’s super cool how the same line sounds like both classical and jazz depending on how you play it. You can really hear it in this video it’s super dope
I LOST IT AT THE CRESTON OVER GIANT STEPS 😭
I've never heard classical sax. I've impressed that a sax could sound that beautiful in that way
Now i wanna see a classical sax excerpt written as a sax soli
I like the zoom into Bach's face - my kind of humor. Keep having fun with music 👍
"Saxophone was invented to play...."
MUSIC, Dudes!
Saxophone was invented to play music.
I'm a very beginner in Saxophone, but that much I've alredy checked!
Btw: my Sax teacher plays Sax longer than I am old (yes, 1974 is my birth Year) , this Year 2020, he had his 40th Year jubilee in the Music School. He plays in a Jazzband and also in a classical orchestra.
He plays MUSIC.
“you just have to vibe” that’s the best thing about jazz
Bach's Cello prelude but its Coltrane changes
the long awaited sequel is finally here
Ah yes, I loved playing the Jazzunov Concerto
That made me so happy to hear the Glazunov Concerto! I learned to play that last year for a concert.
I’m so proud that I recognized all these pieces
You are a true master
Wait, what are the pieces? I’m trying to find some good classical pieces to try on my saxophone.
@@ashsnyder5936 Glazunov concerto in Eb op.109 are the first 2, then it’s Ibert concertino da camera twice, then it’s avec vigueur all are super great pieces
These are literally like the 3 most famous saxophone classical pieces lmao
This entire video reminded me of my undergrad when me, my friends, and my professor at the time quoting classical literature during jazz band. Great video!
I play bari saxophone, and I mostly stick to classical music; I couldn't play jazz to save my life. It requires an insane amount of skill, at least in my opinion. It's also really cool to see how individual musicians interpret music, and the different sounds they produce.
I thought you were saying this guy's tone was TOO jazzy at first. Made me feel so bad as a freshman in my undergrad. 😂
The beginning of the Ibert in a jazz style actually sounds so cool
😂😂😂 Hilarious, but in all seriousness I love that you can get such polar opposite tones out of the same instrument. I love both!
notifications are on a whole new level.
Will Professor Jazz feel asleep , when the old castle emerges😂 lol, love it...
Basically Nathan trying to hide his classical chops 😅
Just a bachelors in both. I am currently working on a masters in jazz.
@KeananC Thanks! Uploading a vid now :)
jacobs face when he heard the jazz snob play 😂
Between this video and the previous one I think he's just flexing about the fact that he can play both styles
JK
the jazz version of Glazunov concerto will probably haunt me subconsciously every time I have to practice it from now on 😂
😂
I’m a simple man. I see creston, I click.
That’s the only men we need!
3:24 "I'LL show you how it's really supposed to be done." 🤣
I'm sorry, but that sounds so cleannnn 4:04
Btw, what was the piece he was playing, I have it on the tip of my tongue.
@@julianmorales3063 concertino da camera
Maybe I am a jazz snob but I absolutely loved the jazz interpretations of the lines 😂😂