Good review. I like my Max a lot but at 185 lbs, my KQi3 Max only goes up to 21mph and the range is only about 22-24 miles, less than 15 miles if there are any moderate hills to climb. I do recommend the Max though. They frequently go down to $749.99. Great intermediate scooter at that price.
A good scooter means a high price, Segway G65 with a shock absorption system is probably the choice for most people at the same price. But Kqi max has a greater power output, better climbing ability, and wider tire grip area, which are the main reasons for me to purchase the Kqi max.
I would definitely say the NIU max scooter is much better considering the fact it has a much higher TopSpeed, it has a great headlight, and also has great tires as well. I’ve had an amazing time on my scooter, it feels like an adrenaline rush going that fast.
Don't buy it for 600 euros thrown away....... In 6 months I have sent it 4 times to Germany for repair, they don't have points in Italy for repair. They don't speak Italian, but Italian money is convenient for them. Unreliable people and poor product. With the old xiaomi scooter, not all the failures I encountered on this scooter had happened to me. Bought on 11/26/2022 and in July 2023 it broke for the 4/5th time because in the last ticket, in addition to the second breakage of the ignition button, error 03 was added to the accelerator. Buy other brands.
The 40 mile range is usually tested with the person that weighs not that much, and on the eco-mode. A good rule of thumb is to divide the advertise range by two to get a realistic range.
On electric scooters, many factors affect range. - Most test results are based on a 170-lb. rider. If you're 200+lbs., expect a reduction. - Cold temperatures reduce battery efficiency, notably below 60°F. - Low tire pressures and improperly adjusted brakes increase rolling resistance. - As with cars, short distance trips use more power, especially where there is a lot of stop-and-go driving. Repeated acceleration from a stop draws hard on the battery, whereas sustained speeds draw less. - As scooters have "gears" to control speed, max range is obtained by driving at its lowest setting. They usually omit that crucial fact.
So far I’ve been flying up the hills and bridges where I live. I was surprised to see an indicated 20 mph going up a pretty steep hill. I’m sure it was a mile or two off, but it took it with ease.
there's a review showing a guy going up a 15% grade hill on a full battery, but it couldn't do it. The guy weighed 180 lbs. But all the responses to your question say it flies up hills. So who knows? I just ordered one for $600 on Prime Day. I have a fairly steep hill by my house. If it can't make it, I'll have to return it.
For beginner probably want to get something cheaper. For almost $1k this is not really the best option for a first scooter unless money is not a concern. There are tons of good scooters out there that are $400-$800. Also not all beginner wants 20mph+. Probably solid tires are better for beginners as well, most of them would probably freak out if a flat ever happen. Not to mention most of them know nothing about tire pressure and maintenance.
Yes, Niu's scooters are great for beginners! Something very important to consider is the angle of the stem between the deck and handlebars. For each design, there's an ideal stem angle that makes it easiest to keep the front wheel straight, making the scooter most stable. (It involves some principles called "rake" and "trail"... For details, Google "scooter rake trail", without the quotes.) Many scooter-makers ignore this, making it very easy to lose control of their scooters. Niu, however, has been making larger sit-down scooters for decades, and have transferred their design experience to their new stand-up scooters. As the video mentions, they also have a built-in program that limits the scooter's speed for a certain period, so beginners can get used to operating the throttle (rather than having the scooter zoom out from under them!) and to riding in general. I know of NO other scooter-maker that includes this thoughtful, important feature. Niu makes several other models that are less powerful but perfectly fine for riding in the city and around the neighbourhood. The Kqi2 is a top-rated scooter in its class, costs significantly less, is lighter to carry, and (in my opinion) would suit a beginner even more than this one. I don't think most people really want to go much over 20 MPH on a stand-up scooter anyway... That may not seem fast-but when there's nothing between you and the road but a couple of 9" wheels, believe me, it feels _plenty_ fast. Cheers!
I have the same scooter and i have noticed that those 23.6mph are only reachable at full charge or lets say between 80-100% of battery load and then max speed goes down to 20-21mph. Have you had the same experience?
Yes, it's typical of all E-Scooter brands when looking at specs for both speed, as well as range. Claimed range of scooters are in fact achievable, however only under ideal (and more limped power) circumstances such as: rider's weight, ambient temperatures, riding it in Eco Mode, mostly flat surfaces and very little stop & go traffic. Usually one can expect to realistically achieve 60-70% of the claimed battery range.
The 9.5 in puncture proof tires will absolute most of the bumps on the road. It is not necessary to have suspensions for this scooter, as long as you do not use it for off road. I really like the build quality of the NIU scooter.
It's very subjective... It depends how each scooter's designed, and how sensitive you are to bumps. Scooters as well designed and stable as Niu's are much more comfortable than many other suspension-less scooters. Obviously these aren't designed for off-road, doing tricks, etc., but they're just fine for in-city riding. Having ridden many scooters in the $800-$1200 range, I think that as long as you have good pneumatic tires, ride on reasonably smooth surfaces, and don't plant to go at high speeds, suspension is overrated. Again, it depends on design and build. Scooters that aren't well made can have very stiff rides even with suspension. It also adds considerably to the price of production. If a manufacturer wants to offer an inexpensive model with suspension, but also keep its prices down, they have to cut corners somewhere else (build quality, battery, braking, etc.). If you don't really need suspension for the kind of riding you do, you'll have a lot more choices, save dough, and have a scooter that's pounds lighter to carry. It's really worth considering.
I have a Kugoo Kirin M4 Pro, and it's like the scooter in the video, but in some ways better, for about $200 less. It has front and rear suspension, a 500W motor, 20-25 mile range, 23-25 MPH top speed, a grocery list of spare parts direct from the manufacturer, and is mostly user-serviceable. Best of all, there are no apps or accounts to set up, no stupid tutorial to watch, and no manufacturer-imposed limits that have to be unlocked with an app. Simply insert the key, turn it on, start the throttle, and off you go. Its build quality is pretty decent and rugged. The idea Niu is good, but for people like me, their approach turns me off. I don't need or want the manufacturer to decide what's best for me or to impose any kind of limit on a product I pay for unless I prove to them that I can use it. That's why I prefer a scooter built by a completely Chinese manufacturer, not because I support their economic or political system, but because they at least know what their customers want, and let them be their own assessors of risk.
@@carbrickscity Look I’ll say this. Ninebot max is a great scooter. If you want more speed and range Niu Max outclasses it. In the end but what makes you happy. I’ve only given my opinion.
@@carbrickscity Okay I’ll concede Ninebot Max is cheaper with more after market support. And Niu Max is faster, better range and great warranty. There let the people decide. It’s all good in the end as long as we’re having fun 😀
Guys, this speed isn't the real speed. I got the Pro and real speed (checked with smartphone) is a few miles/KM slower. Still, even real 20mph would be perfect for me.
First Kqi3 Max review on the internet, nice job!
Finally! Someone reviews this. Thank you!
Ordered it in Europe and finally happy to see one review of the "Max" and not the "Pro"
Good review. I like my Max a lot but at 185 lbs, my KQi3 Max only goes up to 21mph and the range is only about 22-24 miles, less than 15 miles if there are any moderate hills to climb. I do recommend the Max though. They frequently go down to $749.99. Great intermediate scooter at that price.
very well reviewed . Thanks for sharing
And about ninebot P65 can you guys compare?
Please make a comparision video between KQI3 pro vs max, and is it worth paying some extra dollars for the max version!
Definitely! Much better speed and range! Plus the self healing tired are a must!
I've tried both and the Max is worth the extra cost. You can get the Max for as low as $749, which is only $50 more, when they are both on sale
A good scooter means a high price, Segway G65 with a shock absorption system is probably the choice for most people at the same price. But Kqi max has a greater power output, better climbing ability, and wider tire grip area, which are the main reasons for me to purchase the Kqi max.
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I was gonna order this exact scooter when I got back from my road trip👍🏽
I'd love real world users view of this compared to the Ninebot G30p Max. if anyone has any?
I just ordered mine. Have had a ninebot max for over a year. Will happily reply and give you an honest comparison once I get mine and test it out
@@lexg1455 Got yours to review with Max?
@@lexg1455 did you get to compare yet?
I would definitely say the NIU max scooter is much better considering the fact it has a much higher TopSpeed, it has a great headlight, and also has great tires as well. I’ve had an amazing time on my scooter, it feels like an adrenaline rush going that fast.
NIU is much batter. I had Ninebot G30 MAX for a year and NIU scooter feels better, rides better, more durable. Much better overal
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Don't buy it for 600 euros thrown away....... In 6 months I have sent it 4 times to Germany for repair, they don't have points in Italy for repair. They don't speak Italian, but Italian money is convenient for them. Unreliable people and poor product. With the old xiaomi scooter, not all the failures I encountered on this scooter had happened to me. Bought on 11/26/2022 and in July 2023 it broke for the 4/5th time because in the last ticket, in addition to the second breakage of the ignition button, error 03 was added to the accelerator. Buy other brands.
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Another good review here of the Niu Air vs the Unagi Voyager, E-twow, and KQI Max
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Heyyyy filmed in Boston! Happy to hear what the estimated range i can expect will be riding around these roads.
I bought it and have been using it for 2 months. Its actual range is merely 20-22 miles.
Just curious - how much do you weigh? Rider weight has a big effect on range. I'm a big guy - 6'3 205 and have been thinking about buying this one.
@@jeremiahharper-hall6604 I’m 6’ and 86kg.
I was going to get one but I decided to get a Emove Cruiser I get great range I am getting over 45 miles a charge.
Has a large 30 amp hour battery.
The 40 mile range is usually tested with the person that weighs not that much, and on the eco-mode. A good rule of thumb is to divide the advertise range by two to get a realistic range.
On electric scooters, many factors affect range.
- Most test results are based on a 170-lb. rider. If you're 200+lbs., expect a reduction.
- Cold temperatures reduce battery efficiency, notably below 60°F.
- Low tire pressures and improperly adjusted brakes increase rolling resistance.
- As with cars, short distance trips use more power, especially where there is a lot of stop-and-go driving. Repeated acceleration from a stop draws hard on the battery, whereas sustained speeds draw less.
- As scooters have "gears" to control speed, max range is obtained by driving at its lowest setting. They usually omit that crucial fact.
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Disculpa el guardabarros tracero puedo poner el del kqi max al Kqi 3pro.
Thanks for the review! Does this model offer zero-start?
With an app update you should be able to use zero-start.
@@sunnykundi2479what is zero start?
@@Burger_fort zero start means that when you push the throttle on the scooter it will automatically start moving the wheel forward.
@@sunnykundi2479 ohh thank you
Would love to know more about how it does on hills
So far I’ve been flying up the hills and bridges where I live. I was surprised to see an indicated 20 mph going up a pretty steep hill. I’m sure it was a mile or two off, but it took it with ease.
@@GarciaGungFuJKD I can attest to this. I was going up hills at 20mph suprisingly. The same hills that would do 12-15mph on my segway ninebot max.
@@lexg1455 Where is your promised review on these two?
Going up hills on the scooter is a breeze, it still feels fast going up hills.
there's a review showing a guy going up a 15% grade hill on a full battery, but it couldn't do it. The guy weighed 180 lbs. But all the responses to your question say it flies up hills. So who knows? I just ordered one for $600 on Prime Day. I have a fairly steep hill by my house. If it can't make it, I'll have to return it.
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Where do you take it for regular maintenance and repair locally if you own one?
You can contact NIU customer service if you have any problems with your scooter. They have a 2-year warranty for all their scooters.
Nice review!What would you choose between this and G30 Max?Thx!
The NIU Kqi3 Max is definitely better than the g30 Max!
Thx for sharing & for the coupon codes. Only one issue, this is not available on Amazon yet. 🤷🏻♂️
It’s coming to Amazon soon!
It's currently on discount on Amazon right now!
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How does the compare to a Ninebot max ???
Niu Kqi3 Max has better speed and range compared to the Ninebot Max.
How are you all loving the scooter? Is this something you can recommend for a beginner rider? Thank you
Yes, its great for beginners. You can limit the power mode and the scooter is very stable.
@@TechWeWant thank you!
For beginner probably want to get something cheaper. For almost $1k this is not really the best option for a first scooter unless money is not a concern. There are tons of good scooters out there that are $400-$800. Also not all beginner wants 20mph+. Probably solid tires are better for beginners as well, most of them would probably freak out if a flat ever happen. Not to mention most of them know nothing about tire pressure and maintenance.
Yes, Niu's scooters are great for beginners! Something very important to consider is the angle of the stem between the deck and handlebars. For each design, there's an ideal stem angle that makes it easiest to keep the front wheel straight, making the scooter most stable. (It involves some principles called "rake" and "trail"... For details, Google "scooter rake trail", without the quotes.) Many scooter-makers ignore this, making it very easy to lose control of their scooters. Niu, however, has been making larger sit-down scooters for decades, and have transferred their design experience to their new stand-up scooters.
As the video mentions, they also have a built-in program that limits the scooter's speed for a certain period, so beginners can get used to operating the throttle (rather than having the scooter zoom out from under them!) and to riding in general. I know of NO other scooter-maker that includes this thoughtful, important feature.
Niu makes several other models that are less powerful but perfectly fine for riding in the city and around the neighbourhood. The Kqi2 is a top-rated scooter in its class, costs significantly less, is lighter to carry, and (in my opinion) would suit a beginner even more than this one. I don't think most people really want to go much over 20 MPH on a stand-up scooter anyway... That may not seem fast-but when there's nothing between you and the road but a couple of 9" wheels, believe me, it feels _plenty_ fast. Cheers!
@@zeppy13131 thanks for the advice!
Does it have zero start or do you have to kick it
Pretty sure it's kick...yeah I hate that as well
Agree. Zero start is much better and should at least be an option so people have a choice. One of the deal breakers.
Yes, it has a zero start option. It can be enabled on the app.
I just got mine and it has a zero start option in the app. Careful with it though.
Did Segway basically rebrand these for the p100s and p65 scooters?
I have the same scooter and i have noticed that those 23.6mph are only reachable at full charge or lets say between 80-100% of battery load and then max speed goes down to 20-21mph. Have you had the same experience?
Same, but 20-21 mph is good enough for me.
@@kurukiddo Ok, i just wanted to confirm this. Thanks for answering.
I noticed the same.. here is my video lol ua-cam.com/video/_p2dropsxig/v-deo.html
Yes, it's typical of all E-Scooter brands when looking at specs for both speed, as well as range. Claimed range of scooters are in fact achievable, however only under ideal (and more limped power) circumstances such as: rider's weight, ambient temperatures, riding it in Eco Mode, mostly flat surfaces and very little stop & go traffic. Usually one can expect to realistically achieve 60-70% of the claimed battery range.
No suspension = dealbreaker. Lovely scooter though.
The 9.5 in puncture proof tires will absolute most of the bumps on the road. It is not necessary to have suspensions for this scooter, as long as you do not use it for off road. I really like the build quality of the NIU scooter.
@@paulleung1175 not true, i got mine 2 weeks ago and i wish it had suspension
It's very subjective... It depends how each scooter's designed, and how sensitive you are to bumps. Scooters as well designed and stable as Niu's are much more comfortable than many other suspension-less scooters. Obviously these aren't designed for off-road, doing tricks, etc., but they're just fine for in-city riding.
Having ridden many scooters in the $800-$1200 range, I think that as long as you have good pneumatic tires, ride on reasonably smooth surfaces, and don't plant to go at high speeds, suspension is overrated.
Again, it depends on design and build. Scooters that aren't well made can have very stiff rides even with suspension. It also adds considerably to the price of production. If a manufacturer wants to offer an inexpensive model with suspension, but also keep its prices down, they have to cut corners somewhere else (build quality, battery, braking, etc.).
If you don't really need suspension for the kind of riding you do, you'll have a lot more choices, save dough, and have a scooter that's pounds lighter to carry. It's really worth considering.
Is there a way to add suspension?
There is currently no way to access a pension, but don’t worry about the ride quality, it’s amazing even with no suspension.
But the folding system is loose connection when i ride it moving little bit in the joint.
90 % off elektro scooter driver don't have a drive license...........
No suspension, dang, this scooter was almost perfect. Oh well my search continues
I have a Kugoo Kirin M4 Pro, and it's like the scooter in the video, but in some ways better, for about $200 less. It has front and rear suspension, a 500W motor, 20-25 mile range, 23-25 MPH top speed, a grocery list of spare parts direct from the manufacturer, and is mostly user-serviceable. Best of all, there are no apps or accounts to set up, no stupid tutorial to watch, and no manufacturer-imposed limits that have to be unlocked with an app. Simply insert the key, turn it on, start the throttle, and off you go. Its build quality is pretty decent and rugged.
The idea Niu is good, but for people like me, their approach turns me off. I don't need or want the manufacturer to decide what's best for me or to impose any kind of limit on a product I pay for unless I prove to them that I can use it. That's why I prefer a scooter built by a completely Chinese manufacturer, not because I support their economic or political system, but because they at least know what their customers want, and let them be their own assessors of risk.
@@stupid47 Thanks for sharing! Can it handle rainy days? And how much do you weigh? Im 98kg and curios if it will take me 23kilometers on max speed.
My scooter has a speed limit of 25 km/h. Does anyone know how I can remove it?
Look theres like 3 videos how to unlock it!
@@josejpl69 Where can you see those 3 videos?
I was lucky enough to get a pre-order, which is a lot cheaper. Wouldn't pay more than $1000 for this scooter though.
I got it for $800
@@GHUMGHAMCANADA $874.91 to be exact ;)
Got mine for $800, free LED helmet and free travel bag.
@@GarciaGungFuJKD what? it came with a bag? helmet only for me 🥲
@@kurukiddo Lol yea I used my Niu points. Did you get those?
I received the KQI3Max in Canada last week. The power button was not working, strew hole does not fit and return process is complicated ! 😞
how is their service?
What happened then?
You have to connect the charger before turn it on otherwise won't work
How would you compare this to Ninebot Max, build and ride quality wise?
Curious about this myself
Beats Ninebot max in every category!
@@carbrickscity Seat option is sketchy at best for scooters like this, and drum brakes are not better than disk. I stand with my statement.
@@carbrickscity Look I’ll say this. Ninebot max is a great scooter. If you want more speed and range Niu Max outclasses it. In the end but what makes you happy. I’ve only given my opinion.
@@carbrickscity Okay I’ll concede Ninebot Max is cheaper with more after market support. And Niu Max is faster, better range and great warranty. There let the people decide. It’s all good in the end as long as we’re having fun 😀
Max speed?
24mph
@@justinwalker1434 is that only in private areas or in the street too?
@@justinwalker1434 is that legit that’s like 38kmh
It probably varies with weight of rider and gradient of surface your riding on. Idrk I don’t own one 🤷♂️
Guys, this speed isn't the real speed. I got the Pro and real speed (checked with smartphone) is a few miles/KM slower. Still, even real 20mph would be perfect for me.