Mary Richards shows up unexpectedly and throws a monkey wrench into Rhoda's and Joe's plans for a long-awaited weekend alone at Cape Cod. Air Date: March 10, 1975
Mary and Rhoda are together now. Miss you both well done ladies well done Rip Valerie thanks for all you did to entertain us over godspeed sweet lady Valerie Harper You are already missed.
@The mysterious Miss X you must be very young and way over sensitive. Nothing said here was rude or in any way a put down, no matter how hard you try to twist it. True friends are close enough to say anything to each other in a kind voice. Real friends are open and tell you the truth instead of lies. But in a kind way, not ugly or hateful. The wounds of a true friend are better than the flattery of a fake who stabs you in the back later.
Please don't post RIP in comments . It's a downer and not the appropriate place . The character Rhoda is alive and well. Don't spoil things. TV is supposed to be a escape from reality. I hate seeing that. We need a nice escape especially now. I know you didn't mean anything by it.
When I look at Mary here, I still see the wife of the Dick Van Dyke show. She was really good in some of my favorite movies. Change of Habit, and 6 weeks.
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I know! I used to watch BOTH the shows (MTM and Rhoda). LONG before "Romy and Michelle", I used to say "I am Rhoda on the outside, but Mary on the inside".
Let's not forget Joe is gone now, too, as are Carlton the doorman and Rhoda's parents Ida and Martin and Gary Levy their neighbor.Wow,so much has changed.Doesn't seem possible
@The mysterious Miss X , Yep, David Groh passed away in back 2008. I think people often make the mistake of mixing up actors with the characters they portray. Some folks might not like Joe, but David Groh was a talented actor and from what I heard, a really good guy, so he deserves some love and remembrances too. RIP big guy!
Joe Shoulda did what I woulda done ...moved out and initiated the divorce. She wanted the marriage now she wants to put her husband last...typical boomer 60s feminist
"Beats the pink and purple passion pad in Minneapolis" Hahaha, I love Rhoda. I think she was a little funnier in MTM but that's just me. I love her and Mary's friendship too much.
Very impressed to have (okay okay - you dragged it out of me! I BINGED THE WHOLE FIRST SEASON IN THREE DAYS! There. You HAPPY now?!) the full season in easy-play full screen playback. Thank you for the upload. Rhoda was my fave during The Mary Tyler Moore Show - of which I watched for the first time last year - from public library dvds. I had no idea she had gone-on to do her own show until halfway through the season she wasn’t with Mary! I was born in 1970, but somehow managed to never see either of these two shows until around now! Go figure. Again; thank you for the upload.
At some point doormen formed a union, so maybe Carlton wanted to rack up as much OT as he could. Between the OT money, bonuses and tips he could afford to be a lush. Plus, with the union might behind him, his chance of being fired was between 0 and 1.
This is so great and weird at the same time...ya know, watching these episodes sparks some kinda feelings inside of me...I can actually remember (from SOME of these episodes), what I was going through with my little frenemies in school!! Our brains are so amazing!!! Thank you for these! on to season 2 - Be safe and take care😎
Meir Wise Never again because there are no young female actresses who can live up to all those great gals from that era. Yes, I do know that it was a rhetorical question too.
All great except Joe!! Loved when Mary scolds Rhoda about not telling her!! When she says Va Cay tion!! Lol Mary was priceless in this scene!! Ida was brilliant as usual
I never thought he was a loudmouth and jerk till I got much older. That said, he is just saying the lines that were written for him and I certainly didn’t want them to divorce. Now, that was a dumb idea.
Lorenzo Music the producer did Carlton the door man AND Garfields voice! Also Julie Kavner is the voice of Marge Simpson! Love this show thanks for posting these.
And 2021! Me & mum 🙏 loved this show & I adored Valerie!! Great teamwork made this show so brilliant. Too much analysing these days Thanks for the magic. x 🤗
Yep, sad but true. I would feel odd knowing that I was the lone survivor of a show. Betty White is in the same boat and pretty much Todd Bridges. All of the shows from my youth have produced many sad notions that this life goes quick.
Christopher Miller Yes, Mary was pretty but at the same time, her face always looked worried to me. Even when she wasn't worried, her face still always looked like it.
Ingrid Dubbel all that Kristy Nicole was saying is that she wishes that because she thinks it would have been fun. Don’t be obnoxious to strangers on the internet. You wouldn’t look her in the eye and say that in person.
What do you people not understand by how she said “i wish that…”? She wasnt stating what she said as *fact*. She just saying that she wished that’s how it went. People SUCK at reading these days
Joe was a douchebag from his first moment on screen when he walks right into Brenda’s apartment and uses the phone. In those days that was the same as going into someone’s house and opening the fridge. In this case, his wife’s best friend was unexpectedly in town and instead of being happy for her and letting her spend time with her friend, he’s got to act like a 6 year old who’s dad missed his baseball game.
LG There were some episodes where he was very nice and very patient with Rhoda. Sometimes he was TOO nice & patient with her, in fact. For example, there was the time she went out to dinner with an ex of hers although it was disrespectful to her husband & despite the fact that he was clearly not comfortable with her "date."
In this episode he had a right to be vexed with Mary, for just showing up assuming Rhoda and Joe would be able to host her for a weekend, and with Rhoda for not telling Mary at her arrival that she and Joe were en route to a weekend vacation. Comic premise flimsy.
I agree withDlfreightet watcher. Lorenzo Music did the voice of Carlton the doorman and Garfield while Julie Kavner who played Rhoda's sister is the voice of Marge Simpson on the Simpsons. They work together just beautifully and continue to overwhelm an audience!
Once again, Joe puts his own pleasure ahead of his son - he didn't even THINK about the fact that it was his turn to have his son, and his solution? Palm him off on whoever he can. So let's look at this: the child has already gone through one of life's worst traumas for a child - the divorce of his parents. Then when it's time to be with his father, his father has other plans and is happy to dump him on other people - just like the first time Rhoda met him. He's a lousy father, because he cares more about his own pleasure and satisfaction than his son. If he can't make a sacrifice to develop a relationship with his son, how does anyone expect him to make sacrifices to grow in his relationship with his wife? Rhoda and Joe's divorce was inevitable: he doesn't know how to be married because it requires making sacrifices, growing in virtue, and choosing the good of other people over your own impulses, desires and pleasures.
You do know this is a fictional show right? A comedy show at that. I don't know that you need to analyse Joe parenting methods to this degree, it's a story.
Great writing. Great acting. Eventually Rhoda and Joe split up, but there aren't any cheap laughs in this show. The situations were true to life, even if they were uncomfortable.
Yes, and rewatching these episodes now as an adult (I was a teenager when they first aired in the '70s), and also knowing Rhoda and Joe's ultimate fate, it casts these (seemingly) trivial arguments in a new light. Earlier in the season, Joe asked Rhoda to move in with him, but she told him that she couldn't live with him if they weren't married. Though they didn't reveal this until after they separated, he married her, but secretly resented having to do so, and I see these little spats between them as symptoms of that resentment. He loved her, but he felt that he'd married her under duress. The whole storyline about the separation and divorce was, of course, a "downer" (particularly for a sitcom during the mid-70s), but having since experienced a number of painful breakups, I can now appreciate how realistic and moving those separation/divorce episodes were in a way that I couldn't have when I first saw these as a 16-year old.
Compare with Mary, who knew who was right for her. Rhoda perhaps realistic. Choices not always right. People imperfect. Writers intended this. Great contrast here with friendship versus spouse storyline.
@@glen7318 That's true. I was in my early-20s when Joe & Rhoda split up. I was more upset with it than I was with my own parents splitting up at the same time!
@@wotan10950 I think that the show's producers didn't mean to break them up which is why the whole marriage and end of it came across as a bit too realisitc and as such painful. Joe does come across as bad tempered, so perhaps they went with that, as a way of breaking htem up.. that he got angry over things and it messed up the marriage... and David Groh didn't seem to be able to act with a light touch so he seemed genuinely angry a lot of the time.
In the early episodes the intro says I was born in 1939 and I thought I was responsible for WW2, then later episodes it says I was born in 1941 etc etc. Did the writers only realise that the US only officially entered WW2 in '41 at a later stage 😆
Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, which was the official start of WWII globally; the US didn't enter until 1941. Also, Valerie Harper was born in in 1939.
Can't believe I breezed thru this whole season that fast! It usually takes me twice as long to watch a season of MTM. I'm trying to watch both in the same timeline but I seemed to have left season 5 of Mary in the dust lol I'm also on season 3 of Bob newhart, 74-75 was a good sitcom year.
I wish I could go back in time 40 years and meet her. Heck, I would even meet her today out of respect for her regarding her courage in her battle against brain cancer.
In MTM Rhoda was so self deprecating, but by today's standards so hot. Then she was considered "fat," but any guy now would call her hot. Just gorgeous in seventies. The ultimate combination would be Jaclyn Smith. Just breathtaking in seventies.
It seems Rhoda could never make Joe happy. He even says when divorcing he just isn't happy. It was that way from the beginning. It's the way it was written which really was too bad because I really think they could have done a lot with them together they had great chemistry and seemed comfortable with each other.
"Along Comes Mary" might be the 25th and final episode of Season 1 of "Rhoda", named after The Association song "Along Comes Mary" (1966). Written by Charlotte Brown and Coleman Mitchell & Geoffrey Neigher, and directed by Robert Moore. It originally aired on CBS on March 10, 1975.
But she's always found it hard to tell it straight away because she's only looking out for Mary's feelings. They are best friends. Joe shouldn't of been so upset.
Joe was always angry about something in every episode. He was the wrong pick for Rhoda as far as a husband. In retrospect she never should have gotten married so quickly in the first season. He was not a good fit for Rhoda at all. Mary and Rhoda together again was awesome. Brenda and Rhoda had good chemistry throughout the entire series. Ida was the greatest !
People have been saying in the comments he never really wanted to be married in the first place. If that’s how it was then it’s no surprise that’s it went as it did.
The premise here didn't ring true - it was out-of-character for Mary to come to town without telling Rhoda. And Mary Richards never barged in on anyone - she was always the one being barged in on
Joe needs to chill out. It isn't as if Mary comes to visit often and there will be other weekends for he and Rhoda to get away. And why do they need to get away anyway? They are in New York City and they can do EVERYTHING in NYC that they planned to do in Cape Cod and probably a lot more!
Hard to believe Mary would just drop in with no warning. She was never the pushy type or the insensitive type. It was always hard for her to 'speak up' when she was wronged. Can't really imagine her inviting herself - Phyllis style - into someone's home without an invitation or a phone call. And she wore the same outfit all weekend. Mary? Not packing at least two outfits?
She could be impulsive at times though, and being impulsive can often bite you in the butt, as it did to Marry here. It also put a cramp in other people's plans. Not a smart move.
Mary and Rhoda are together now. Miss you both well done ladies well done Rip Valerie thanks for all you did to entertain us over godspeed sweet lady Valerie Harper You are already missed.
Use commas.
@@ingriddubbel8468 get over it its UA-cam and i was feeling sentimental . don't waste my time anymore get ur life!!!!!.
I adore Mary and Rhoda together! They just had great friendship chemistry, RIP you lovely gals, you will be so very missed. ♥♥
Definitely
Rhoda and Mary are such great friends. Though good times and bad, they will always be there for each other!
Keith Parkes and now in heaven
On and off screen they were really good friends.
@The mysterious Miss X you must be very young and way over sensitive. Nothing said here was rude or in any way a put down, no matter how hard you try to twist it. True friends are close enough to say anything to each other in a kind voice. Real friends are open and tell you the truth instead of lies. But in a kind way, not ugly or hateful. The wounds of a true friend are better than the flattery of a fake who stabs you in the back later.
@@RepentfollowJesus and also, everything they said to each other was complimentary! How nice that friends can tell each other they look great.
RIP Valerie Harper a true treasure
Please don't post RIP in comments . It's a downer and not the appropriate place . The character Rhoda is alive and well. Don't spoil things. TV is supposed to be a escape from reality. I hate seeing that. We need a nice escape especially now. I know you didn't mean anything by it.
@@elizabethrobinson8615 I love rods
Mary and the other actors too!!!!!!!!!!!! ❤️🩹
@@elizabethrobinson8615WTF! Stop patronizing people with your weird attitude.
@@elizabethrobinson8615Stop patronizing people and mind your own business!
Nancy Walker was hilarious here, but Mary stole the show with her perfect comic timing, fantastic.
When I look at Mary here, I still see the wife of the Dick Van Dyke show. She was really good in some of my favorite movies. Change of Habit, and 6 weeks.
Always loved this show. Haven’t seen it since 1975 yet it still feels like yesterday.
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I swear, Nancy Walker steals every scene...she was truly great.
She was also great on McMillan and Wife...Love her!
Watch Nancy walker in "Murder by Death" All star cast. You'll love it..
Love these shows.No smutty jokes, Just good funny guips and good humour
I love Mary and Rhoda..
R.I.P. Mare. Love you both, Mary and Valerie!
@@VictoriaReina-ch4xo R.I.P Valerie. You were a very talented actress.
We lost Cloris.,.....
FUCK ........,,
I hate these bags under my eyes...,
Just full of tears ready to fall as each new day brings a new loss.😪
will always love Rhoda so sassy so NYC Mary was cool but Rhoda had her own business, didnt take crap from hubby or moms and just lived her life
Yes, there was something special about them being together.
Their first meeting started it all & unique in t.v. history.
Rest in ☮️ both of them.
I Love everything about Mary Tyler Moore and Valerie Harper. Bless you all...
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Love love love, I cannot believe this was 40 years ago.
And not only was it 40 years ago but several of the cast members have since passed away; Mary Tyler Moore, Nancy Walker and David Groh.
paul nelson Almost 45 now.
I know!!!! NOW it's been 44!
I know! I used to watch BOTH the shows (MTM and Rhoda). LONG before "Romy and Michelle", I used to say "I am Rhoda on the outside, but Mary on the inside".
47. (2021)
Rhoda and Mary are now together again. Thx for the laughs. 8-31-19
Amen
Let's not forget Joe is gone now, too, as are Carlton the doorman and Rhoda's parents Ida and Martin and Gary Levy their neighbor.Wow,so much has changed.Doesn't seem possible
Were you another Rhoda binge watcher the weekend of 8 31 19? We're a good group. RIP Mary and Rhoda..
@rrr ccc Don't forget Ed Asner.
Oh, John Amos.He played the weatherman. Gordy. I think he is still alive. James Evans-Good Times.
I miss these shows . Such good writing and great actors.
Yes, very true, I just wish there were more shows of the same quality that were being produced today.
R I P Valarie thanks for the Rhoda Shows loved them, You will be sadly missed.
This episode was obviously the start of the producers getting ready to write Joe leaving.
And it is only the end of the first season!
Yes that was too bad.
Even though it took two more years thereafter. Really lame.
Mother has already mentioned more than once that the marriage was in trouble- she "knew"
I'm glad Rhoda finally said what she felt to Joe. Miss you Mary and and Valerie. RIP.
@The mysterious Miss X , Yep, David Groh passed away in back 2008. I think people often make the mistake of mixing up actors with the characters they portray. Some folks might not like Joe, but David Groh was a talented actor and from what I heard, a really good guy, so he deserves some love and remembrances too. RIP big guy!
Rhoda was wrong... Mary was wrong.
Joe Shoulda did what I woulda done ...moved out and initiated the divorce. She wanted the marriage now she wants to put her husband last...typical boomer 60s feminist
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REST IN PEACE ALL OF YOU.
Lucy Lucky Brenda is still alive. She’s the voice of Marge Simpson
Thanks to the person who posted these, and thanks to God for 70 years of Valerie Harper.
This show rocked. I really liked it.
Valerie Harper will be remembered by many television fans
Love Rhoda and Mary together. Great writing and cast.
Rest in peace mare, rho, lou, Murray, Ted, georgette, and phyllis
And Betty too
RIP Joe, Mary, and Rhoda 💗💗💗
What, you don't like Ida? She's chopped liver? Figures, you never called her anyway!
"Beats the pink and purple passion pad in Minneapolis" Hahaha, I love Rhoda. I think she was a little funnier in MTM but that's just me. I love her and Mary's friendship too much.
I love Rhoda's show but I agree with you that she was funnier on The Mary Tyler Moore Show.
Very impressed to have (okay okay - you dragged it out of me! I BINGED THE WHOLE FIRST SEASON IN THREE DAYS! There. You HAPPY now?!) the full season in easy-play full screen playback. Thank you for the upload.
Rhoda was my fave during The Mary Tyler Moore Show - of which I watched for the first time last year - from public library dvds. I had no idea she had gone-on to do her own show until halfway through the season she wasn’t with Mary!
I was born in 1970, but somehow managed to never see either of these two shows until around now! Go figure.
Again; thank you for the upload.
thank you for uploading the episodes of Rhoda , always enjoy this show and Valerie Harper was one of a kind she will be missed but not completely gone
Didn't Carlton EVER have a day off?! No matter what time of day he was always on duty. No wonder he drank, lol.
I think Carlton was homeless, if he hadn't been at work in Rhoda's building, he would have been living in a garbage bin!
Garfield LOL
At some point doormen formed a union, so maybe Carlton wanted to rack up as much OT as he could. Between the OT money, bonuses and tips he could afford to be a lush. Plus, with the union might behind him, his chance of being fired was between 0 and 1.
I presume we don't see all the days of the week in the show! :)
he probalby lived in the building.. and if doormen had a union, his job was fairly safe so he drank..
This is so great and weird at the same time...ya know, watching these episodes sparks some kinda feelings inside of me...I can actually remember (from SOME of these episodes), what I was going through with my little frenemies in school!! Our brains are so amazing!!! Thank you for these! on to season 2 - Be safe and take care😎
This is one of the best Rhoda episodes.
Sure do miss Mary Tyler Moore!
We got to share a part of life with these 2 lovely ladies! Thank you, & I hope you are together again. 💗💐💗
Bitter sweet watching this.
Outstanding script writers, outstanding actors & too many of them no longer with us.
Nancy Walker, Mary Tyler Moore, Valerie Harper, Julie Kavner......can you get a better female cast?
Meir Wise Never again because there are no young female actresses who can live up to all those great gals from that era. Yes, I do know that it was a rhetorical question too.
LOL...well, yes...Mary Tyler Moore, Cloris Leachman, Betty White, Valerie Harper, Georgia Engel on MTM....
Meir Wise not any more all but one is dead
@@TheDesmo54 Betty White, Cloris Leachman, and Julie Kavner are all still very much alive!
Meir Wise Only when you throw in Betty White and Cloris Leachman. 🙂
All great except Joe!! Loved when Mary scolds Rhoda about not telling her!! When she says Va Cay tion!! Lol Mary was priceless in this scene!! Ida was brilliant as usual
RIP Valerie Harper. You are now with Mary. Rest In Peace.
I always thought David Groh played Joe too angry.
Joe was a dick.
Producers wanted that.
I never thought he was a loudmouth and jerk till I got much older. That said, he is just saying the lines that were written for him and I certainly didn’t want them to divorce. Now, that was a dumb idea.
He’s an actor. That’s how they wanted the part played so that’s how he played it
You mean Like a New York man? That was the character.
Joe can be such a nasty crabcake
Acting like someone really looking forward to something and finding out it's not happening. I get it.
Two great ladies....RIP.
Lorenzo Music the producer did Carlton the door man AND Garfields voice! Also Julie Kavner is the voice of Marge Simpson! Love this show thanks for posting these.
DIfreighter watcher Wow! I had no idea she is the voice of Marge Simpson! Thanks for the info!!!!!
DIfreighter watcher he sure did
Garfield is an unforgettable voice, as well as the doorman, engraved in my memory brain cells
OMG! Had no idea he was Garfield! I thought that voice was warm and familiar. Just couldn’t place it!
This is well known.
Lov lov this show.i always wanted to be Rhoda
Mary Tyler Moore was stunning & I adore her outfits. She & Valerie were such attractive women.
Her reaction was priceless!
MTM’s outfits always matched, including her shoes and purse.
is me or every time Mary sees Joe, he's ALWAYS in a bad mood ???
ManTexDal: yep that does seem how it is. lol. that's just how they wrote it.
I was thinking the same thing. When Joe first met Mary in the Wedding episode, he was in the middle of one of his meltdowns.
It's in the script as my dad would say to me when I asked him the same thing in 1974
Joe was an assh*le; I can't figure out why they wrote him like that, perhaps to contrast him with Rhoda and create conflict.
Jaymes Guy Joe was a hot head at times. Wasn’t that the reason they broke up?
Now Mary is gone what a bummer classy ladies they were.
And as of this week Valerie Harper has passed away.
I think Carlton has drinking problem!😂 Ty for uploads
I missed this show! RIP Mary!😭
Still missing U miss Valerie Harper 👑🌟
I'm fallin asleep with Rhoda tonight!😊💕🌃🌉🌌😴📺
Love when her bestie Marys on the show!
LOVED this show as a kid, love it just as much now. Added bonus; MARY.
Rhoda is just a sweet series
still watching this amazing show in 2018! love it💓
And 2021! Me & mum 🙏 loved this show & I adored Valerie!! Great teamwork made this show so brilliant. Too much analysing these days Thanks for the magic. x 🤗
They have all passed on except Brenda 💖🙏
Yep, sad but true. I would feel odd knowing that I was the lone survivor of a show. Betty White is in the same boat and pretty much Todd Bridges. All of the shows from my youth have produced many sad notions that this life goes quick.
Rhoda is right. You can spend time with a spouse anytime, good friends are hard to come by.
Mary was so pretty and she dressed so well she looks good in anything.
Christopher Miller Yes, Mary was pretty but at the same time, her face always looked worried to me. Even when she wasn't worried, her face still always looked like it.
Christopher Miller u should watch first season of Mary Tyler Moore when she had long hair and mini skirts
Love these ladies!
Joe acts like a lot of new York guys from back in the day. plus Joe never wanted to be married. he felt pressured.
Joe was such a whiner
Exactly. And David went to school for drama for a long while; he knew how to act exactly as New Yorker guy in that situation would.
He is always pissed off about something. What a stressful man to be married to.
okay now i wish Valerie didn't know she was gonna be on set and that was a genuine reaction
She had a script. Are you deluded?
Ingrid Dubbel
Pretty funny..... it’s not like this show was a live improv.
Ingrid Dubbel all that Kristy Nicole was saying is that she wishes that because she thinks it would have been fun. Don’t be obnoxious to strangers on the internet. You wouldn’t look her in the eye and say that in person.
Ingrid Dubbel You didn't read her comment. She WISHED. And she's right, that would have been fun!
What do you people not understand by how she said “i wish that…”? She wasnt stating what she said as *fact*. She just saying that she wished that’s how it went. People SUCK at reading these days
Joe was a douchebag from his first moment on screen when he walks right into Brenda’s apartment and uses the phone. In those days that was the same as going into someone’s house and opening the fridge. In this case, his wife’s best friend was unexpectedly in town and instead of being happy for her and letting her spend time with her friend, he’s got to act like a 6 year old who’s dad missed his baseball game.
From the get-go, the Joe character and David Groh were a disaster waiting to happen. Such a shame.
loved the first few seasons such great actors
The one thing i notice is that Joe was never really nice.. haha. he always seemed upset about everything.. in episodes.
+LG Sampson I agree, I never liked him.
Ridiculous ....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LG Sampson: he was very nice in many scenes I remember seeing. its just that when he was pissed he was pissed. lol
LG There were some episodes where he was very nice and very patient with Rhoda. Sometimes he was TOO nice & patient with her, in fact. For example, there was the time she went out to dinner with an ex of hers although it was disrespectful to her husband & despite the fact that he was clearly not comfortable with her "date."
In this episode he had a right to be vexed with Mary, for just showing up assuming Rhoda and Joe would be able to host her for a weekend, and with Rhoda for not telling Mary at her arrival that she and Joe were en route to a weekend vacation. Comic premise flimsy.
@24:31...Carlton the doorman was a precursor to "Wilson Wilson" on Home Improvement. You never saw either of their faces.
Nancy Walker, a replica of my beloved mother♥
This show is terrific. It’s just terrific!
I agree withDlfreightet watcher. Lorenzo Music did the voice of Carlton the doorman and Garfield while Julie Kavner who played Rhoda's sister is the voice of Marge Simpson on the Simpsons. They work together just beautifully and continue to overwhelm an audience!
LOL, at 14:18 when Rhoda gives Brenda the "come on, laugh it up!" signal. Brenda's reaction is hilarious!
Once again, Joe puts his own pleasure ahead of his son - he didn't even THINK about the fact that it was his turn to have his son, and his solution? Palm him off on whoever he can. So let's look at this: the child has already gone through one of life's worst traumas for a child - the divorce of his parents. Then when it's time to be with his father, his father has other plans and is happy to dump him on other people - just like the first time Rhoda met him. He's a lousy father, because he cares more about his own pleasure and satisfaction than his son. If he can't make a sacrifice to develop a relationship with his son, how does anyone expect him to make sacrifices to grow in his relationship with his wife? Rhoda and Joe's divorce was inevitable: he doesn't know how to be married because it requires making sacrifices, growing in virtue, and choosing the good of other people over your own impulses, desires and pleasures.
You do know this is a fictional show right? A comedy show at that. I don't know that you need to analyse Joe parenting methods to this degree, it's a story.
Great writing. Great acting. Eventually Rhoda and Joe split up, but there aren't any cheap laughs in this show. The situations were true to life, even if they were uncomfortable.
Yes, and rewatching these episodes now as an adult (I was a teenager when they first aired in the '70s), and also knowing Rhoda and Joe's ultimate fate, it casts these (seemingly) trivial arguments in a new light. Earlier in the season, Joe asked Rhoda to move in with him, but she told him that she couldn't live with him if they weren't married. Though they didn't reveal this until after they separated, he married her, but secretly resented having to do so, and I see these little spats between them as symptoms of that resentment. He loved her, but he felt that he'd married her under duress. The whole storyline about the separation and divorce was, of course, a "downer" (particularly for a sitcom during the mid-70s), but having since experienced a number of painful breakups, I can now appreciate how realistic and moving those separation/divorce episodes were in a way that I couldn't have when I first saw these as a 16-year old.
Compare with Mary, who knew who was right for her. Rhoda perhaps realistic. Choices not always right. People imperfect. Writers intended this. Great contrast here with friendship versus spouse storyline.
@@mthivier its meant to be a sitcom, and a painful unhappy break up, is difficult to process in a show like that.
@@glen7318 That's true. I was in my early-20s when Joe & Rhoda split up. I was more upset with it than I was with my own parents splitting up at the same time!
@@wotan10950 I think that the show's producers didn't mean to break them up which is why the whole marriage and end of it came across as a bit too realisitc and as such painful. Joe does come across as bad tempered, so perhaps they went with that, as a way of breaking htem up.. that he got angry over things and it messed up the marriage... and David Groh didn't seem to be able to act with a light touch so he seemed genuinely angry a lot of the time.
Thank u this show got me throuso much
In the early episodes the intro says I was born in 1939 and I thought I was responsible for WW2, then later episodes it says I was born in 1941 etc etc. Did the writers only realise that the US only officially entered WW2 in '41 at a later stage 😆
Hitler invaded Poland in 1939, which was the official start of WWII globally; the US didn't enter until 1941. Also, Valerie Harper was born in in 1939.
Can't believe I breezed thru this whole season that fast! It usually takes me twice as long to watch a season of MTM. I'm trying to watch both in the same timeline but I seemed to have left season 5 of Mary in the dust lol I'm also on season 3 of Bob newhart, 74-75 was a good sitcom year.
Valerie Harper was sooo hot!
I wish I could go back in time 40 years and meet her. Heck, I would even meet her today out of respect for her regarding her courage in her battle against brain cancer.
Man was she ever hot
In MTM Rhoda was so self deprecating, but by today's standards so hot. Then she was considered "fat," but any guy now would call her hot. Just gorgeous in seventies. The ultimate combination would be Jaclyn Smith. Just breathtaking in seventies.
Rhoda and Mary were great together
It seems Rhoda could never make Joe happy. He even says when divorcing he just isn't happy. It was that way from the beginning. It's the way it was written which really was too bad because I really think they could have done a lot with them together they had great chemistry and seemed comfortable with each other.
"Along Comes Mary" might be the 25th and final episode of Season 1 of "Rhoda", named after The Association song "Along Comes Mary" (1966). Written by Charlotte Brown and Coleman Mitchell & Geoffrey Neigher, and directed by Robert Moore. It originally aired on CBS on March 10, 1975.
Mrs.Morgenstern was marvelous...she was like a Fairy God Mother in this one
Nancy was great as Sophia's sister Angela, on the two episodes she was in on "Golden Girls".
Don't forget her in the "Bounty Paper Towels" commercials!
@@ultimafuelie The Quicker Picker Upper!!!
Garfield is that you? :P
Ooh the doorman is Garfield.
Also, he played crash-test dummy Larry.
Yep. Such a cute voice! ❤. :)
I like this show
Lorenzo Music also consulted on the MTM Show.
I love Rhoda's boho style
Rhoda should've been honest with Mary.
But she's always found it hard to tell it straight away because she's only looking out for Mary's feelings. They are best friends. Joe shouldn't of been so upset.
Joe was always angry about something in every episode. He was the wrong pick for Rhoda as far as a husband. In retrospect she never should have gotten married so quickly in the first season. He was not a good fit for Rhoda at all. Mary and Rhoda together again was awesome. Brenda and Rhoda had good chemistry throughout the entire series. Ida was the greatest !
People have been saying in the comments he never really wanted to be married in the first place. If that’s how it was then it’s no surprise that’s it went as it did.
Scoey Mitchell.........it's always nice to see him guest-starring in a series, although he could have been a lead in his own series!
It's the only time I've ever seen his last name spelled Mitchlll. No e, three l's.
I remember watching this as a kid cos my sister didn't allow me to change the channel. Lol but i did fancy valerie harper rip
I don't understand why Ida couldn't watch Donnie.
The running storyline is that Ida would be an overbearing and neurotic caretaker who doesn’t like his mother.
@@MrTkzepeda Wait. Who doesn't like his mother? What?
Got that right we women should stick together
patrick m Agree. Of course girlfriends should stick together, but not at the expense of our husbands!
Agreed! In the end Mary was still her friend and Joe was out
Stay at a hotel mary. Don't stay with a married couple. Great hotels in NYC!
She was going to stay with Brenda.
@@02chevyguy It was smart for Brenda to suggest that. New York hotels are amazing if one can afford it.
Smart sis. 🔥
If Mary was in New York on a business trip, why did she have to move out of her hotel and stay with Brenda? Why couldn't she stay in her own hotel?
Rhoda and Brenda insisted she stay with them.
Because staying with a friend is much better than staying in a hotel room by yourself.
@@sirlancelote8290 Well that is understandable. Privacy is not to be undervalued.
@@sirlancelote8290 same
Brenda invited her. Didn’t you watch it?
Oh how I loveMTM and Rhoda
Joe was always such a jerk.
This episode started to show the true personality of Joe......
Poor Joe! The sis, the mother and Rhoda!!!! I would have needed a separation also!
The premise here didn't ring true - it was out-of-character for Mary to come to town without telling Rhoda. And Mary Richards never barged in on anyone - she was always the one being barged in on
I loved how Rhoda was an independent woman, strong especially for the time period.
Joe needs to chill out. It isn't as if Mary comes to visit often and there will be other weekends for he and Rhoda to get away. And why do they need to get away anyway? They are in New York City and they can do EVERYTHING in NYC that they planned to do in Cape Cod and probably a lot more!
I liked how Valerie put her friendship with Mary first.
When they broke up is was real. Rather nasty. Real life.
Hard to believe Mary would just drop in with no warning. She was never the pushy type or the insensitive type. It was always hard for her to 'speak up' when she was wronged. Can't really imagine her inviting herself - Phyllis style - into someone's home without an invitation or a phone call.
And she wore the same outfit all weekend. Mary? Not packing at least two outfits?
Figaro Hey! She's wearing the same outfit because it's the same day.
Figaro Hey! Yes I didn't notice that she didn't bring a suitcase for the weekend but then I see her unpacking a luggage
She could be impulsive at times though, and being impulsive can often bite you in the butt, as it did to Marry here. It also put a cramp in other people's plans. Not a smart move.