Joe doesn't want to do anything on the weekends yet he plays basketball with his buddy and went fishing. Seems like he just didn't want to do anything with Rhoda. Love ya Rhoda!
I agree. Fine go with the guys once in a while, but a marriage needs leisure time and entertainment . He had time to date her on weekends, he could have time for her on weekends now too. People need space ,but they need togetherness too. You know, a romantic day and night on a Saturday. Its called give and take.
MtM shows were a special time just me and my Mom from age 1 all the way to the end of their run. When they did Mary & Rhoda I drove to my Moms in my pj’s and slept over and her and I watched it together
I started to rewatch this show during the quarentine. I hadn't seen Rhoda since it was in syndication and was a little kid. Of course I didn't catch the adult themes and can't remember any ep except her wedding and hearing my mother talking about the potential divorce episodes w my dad. She was sad. I didn't realize how Rhoda walked into a doomed marriage w eyes wide open to all the red flags. Joe did NOT want to be married. Sadly as much as I love her, Rhoda would've pushed Joe away even if they had lived together instead of jumping into marriage. Her insecurity and desperation were unhealthy and would turn anyone off after a while. Joe probably ended up happily w a woman who was a cross between his cold confident ex and loving attentive Rho 😢
I wish they had let them date and break up. I think he loved her and he tried, and vice versa but they needed to grow a little bit more. As soon as they got married, they argued almost every episode it seems, it's so awkward.
"Rhoda" was and still is one of my favorite sitcoms. I have to say, I agree with Joe's opinion of the green couch Even though he's wearing the dreaded Sans-a-belt slacks in the last scene.
I never realized that the continuing theme of this series was anxiety and nervous anticipation. I guess the writers never meant for Rhoda’s marriage to last.
Revolutionary Views. At the core is the Jewish Mother Syndrome , worry, anxious, etc. It played well because back then, women going out on their own, mothers were nervous...
yup. i heard cuz they couldnt nake it funny with her married but if they were better writers. they could have. ie. I love lucy. the honeymooners. But they were good writers so maybe its just the charactor Rhoda that people wanted her to be free and fun
I actually owned a set of the towels like the one draped around Joe's neck (10:51). They were a gift from my boyfriend's mom when I moved into my first apartment after college. I also had the back-of-the-skirt-stuck-in-the-pantyhose experience. Fortunately, my friend told me about it right after she stopped laughing like a fool.
It’s a real shame they didn’t keep David Groh.. He was the perfect fit. He was a great Actor & this show went totally down hill after his departure.. With him the show would have run for 6-7 years & would have been one of the top 5 sit coms of ALL TIME!! They needed Groh to stay & much more if Nancy Walker.. I was very depressed when they dumped Groh. The story lines really sucked after the middle of the 2nd season!!
I was really upset when they took Joe out of the show..😡 But they made him out to be such a cat on a hot tin roof relationship.. too bad. But still enjoyed every episode just the same.
They were doomed from the beginning, look at the fight they got into when Rhoda got an extra week off from work to stay in NY longer and yes she was too defensive.
Because Joe didn't ask her to take time off from work to stay in New York for an extra week, and Rhoda just assumed that Joe, who owned a business, could, and would, just drop all of his work, and hang out with her. It was quite presumptuous of her. People who own and run businesses, can't just take time off like that, or they wouldn't be in business much longer.
Valerie Harper's delivery is very much like stand up comedy. She's got so much energy and charm. She had a great deal of versatility but I feel like the writers didn't really take advantage of it. She was constantly trying to keep a bunch of one trick ponies around her happy.
As a kid in the 70's I was considered obese and put on a very strict diet. I played outside on my bike all day in the Louisiana heat, too. I look back on my pictures and just don't see it. But it was very hard for me to find clothes that fit. I think that's why I identified so much with Rhoda and Brenda.
@@1964DB I remember when my friends and I considered BeIinda Carlisle the fat Go Go 😔 In the 80's we were size 1 and anything over a 7 (pushing it) was fat. Holy diver I'd kill to be that "fat" now
This is the second vintage show I've seen recently that has a gumball machine lamp in the house/apartment. I don't recall those being a hot item in the 70s.
@@m1k3ywestley7 Martin Kove is currently literally kicking ass in Cobra Kai. If you haven't seen this show, BINGEWATCH IT AT ONCE! Best new show anytime lately.
That couch is ugly because I was never crazy about green, in any fabric. I love mint green and teal, just not common green. In most eps of her marriage, she has a different couch than the green one, with matching chair. Concerning couples in same household, furniture should be chosen with both people together. The thing is, both Rhoda and Joe have bad tempers, and both can be demanding. Joe is more of an introvert and likes to be at home evenings, and Rhoda was more of an 'out on the town' person. They should have discussed all that before marrying. Joe and Rhoda weren't even married for 2 full years. They must have had the shortest marriage in tv history.
several episodes refer to Joe's previous marriages and the number of marriages/ex-wives is inconsistent...funny, wonder why they couldn't keep that straight haha
It bugged me that they wrote in Henry Winkler, when he'd already played some one else back on mtm whom Rhoda dragged to Mary's first party for the congressman
LOL Martin Kove who played Gary the delivery guy is exactly like Victor Isbecki (sp?) the character he would play on "Cagney and Lacey" in a few years. I did like the sofa in that apartment but I don't think I'd like it in a different setting. It would be easy to get tired of it.
"Rhoda" was great. Sadly, it was pretty well forgotten about after it ended in 1978, until it picked up some popularity again in the 90s when TV Land started airing it again. In some ways I think it even surpasses MTM Show. I say that because MTMS was always a bit on the side of Disney. Ted Baxter was not a believable character. The best part of the show was really Lou Grant, Rhoda, and Phyllis - and to an extent, even Murray and Sue Ann Nivens. Rhoda was just more real - although they did bring in a couple Disney characters occasionally, Nick Lobo and Johnny Venture. Rhoda's marriage is called "a mistake" by 90% of people. N, it was not. It was a necessary plot point so she could go back to do what she did best - being single. The only thing they jumped the shark on was the character of Benny Goodwin, who was a complete idiot, played by an actor who was about as interesting as watching cement harden. Other than that, it was great. Hardly a bad episode - and occasionally they'd have a really good guest star on.
Think the Audience was mesnt to applaud etc when Rhoda did the quick change from her cleaning garb to her night out glamour outfit! Instead a deafening silence. Oh dear. She did actually look nicer in the yellow blouse the next day.
They got married too quick. Joe was not ready and could not adjust to being married again. They should have dated the first season and married in season 2.
Did they have to dress Brenda so sloppily? Her clothes seem about five sizes too big. I know they had to contrast her with the thin Rhoda, but poor Julie Kavner looks awful, and clumsy. Not necessary.
Actually, Alan Alda is Robert Alda's son. I always thought Robert Alda had a tendency to overact. He was to appear in another episode of Rhoda, and a couple of episodes of MASH, as a visiting stateside surgeon. Not related to Captain Benjamin Feanklin Pierce, played by the wonderful Alan Alda. Robert's overacting was evident in all those above appearances.
I love the characters in the show, Rhoda & Brenda in particular. I just wish they didn't write sooo many Brenda self-deprecating fat jokes. They even write self-deprecating jokes for Rhoda. So annoying. Brenda was not fat, and she was cute. I'll never get why people think these kinds of jokes are funny. I think the show could have been funnier without those jokes.
I have to chime in that at this time in the 70s , we ALL thought we were fat. Speed was so available with a script and not yet illegal. Most of us were self deprecating. When we looked in the mirror we didn’t see Twiggy or Shrimpton looking back.
I've seen this series several times never gets old a classic
In many ways it aged better than The Mary Tyler Moore Show.
Watching Rhoda, is a fabulous day trip to New York in the '70's! Love it!!!😊
Always loved ‘this is Carleton your doorman.’
Garfield ‼️🐱
I loved her wardrobe
A rental house I had in the early 80s had kitchen wallpaper with that couch pattern on it. 😆
Joe doesn't want to do anything on the weekends yet he plays basketball with his buddy and went fishing. Seems like he just didn't want to do anything with Rhoda. Love ya Rhoda!
I agree. Fine go with the guys once in a while, but a marriage needs leisure time and entertainment . He had time to date her on weekends, he could have time for her on weekends now too. People need space ,but they need togetherness too. You know, a romantic day and night on a Saturday. Its called give and take.
Take me back to the 70s. Great time in history.
Let's build a time capsule!!
Much better times in history than the 70s
@@danacaro-herman3530 Like when?
@@lorraineb.4698 20s, 40s, 50s. More morals back then on the Hollywood screen
@@danacaro-herman3530 Check out the twenties before the Code, Not necessarily.
One of the men delivering Rhodas couch, is played by Martin Kove, who later played detective Isbecki on Cagney and Lacey.
Thank you! I was trying to remember where I know him from. 😃
Also played John Kreese, in the Karate Kid movies and Cobra Kai. And still has a sexy, menacing screen presence.
@@StrongnBeautiful
Same here!
Thank you!
Never missed an episode of cagney and lacy ❤
Good eye. M. K. Also portrayed the trainer? In Karate kid. The poor sport.
Oh wowowowow....that vintage type sofa goes for a lot at estate sales, vintage shops...
Love these shows Valerie created a legacy with this character. Mrs Astor was right. Glad you didnt quit, for all the laughs you gave thanks!
"You have an entire argument by yourself and you still lose." Lol!
Lol!!!!😂
thats funny.
That's is still my favorite line, since I first heard it back in 1974.
Ooh Martin Kove! I absolutely loved Cagney and Lacey
Joe was CUTE !!!
i was so obsessed with mtm, rhoda and phyllis. bur rhoda was my favorite.
Mine too!
Her show was awful!! Phyllis that is.
Lou Grant was really good too. But Rhoda is the best comedic spinoff of MTM.
I didn't know Phyllis had a spin off til now lol
@@E.JayViera Really?? Lou Grant was a good show?
It sounds crazy but I loved ❤️this show at age seven c. And I 💕 loved Rhoda when I was six.
MtM shows were a special time just me and my Mom from age 1 all the way to the end of their run. When they did Mary & Rhoda I drove to my Moms in my pj’s and slept over and her and I watched it together
I used to watch it with my mum at the same age as you. Watching it now, takes me back to those special times with her ❤️
RIP Valerie Harper aka Rhoda
Also R. I. P. David Groh!! You are missed!!
I started to rewatch this show during the quarentine. I hadn't seen Rhoda since it was in syndication and was a little kid. Of course I didn't catch the adult themes and can't remember any ep except her wedding and hearing my mother talking about the potential divorce episodes w my dad. She was sad. I didn't realize how Rhoda walked into a doomed marriage w eyes wide open to all the red flags. Joe did NOT want to be married. Sadly as much as I love her, Rhoda would've pushed Joe away even if they had lived together instead of jumping into marriage. Her insecurity and desperation were unhealthy and would turn anyone off after a while. Joe probably ended up happily w a woman who was a cross between his cold confident ex and loving attentive Rho 😢
It's not really a "red flag" when the man TELLS he never wants to get married again...and...the woman forces him into it, by giving him an ultimatum.
I wish they had let them date and break up. I think he loved her and he tried, and vice versa but they needed to grow a little bit more. As soon as they got married, they argued almost every episode it seems, it's so awkward.
"Rhoda" was and still is one of my favorite sitcoms. I have to say, I agree with Joe's opinion of the green couch Even though he's wearing the dreaded Sans-a-belt slacks in the last scene.
That couch is very typical of the 1970's along with the macrame plant hangers in the apartment and the large coffee mugs on pedestals.
LOVE THIS SHOW 😂😂😂❤❤❤
A very well written show.
3 a.m.?! What's Joe demolishing in middle of night? Lol
his marriage?
"Better be tea":)
I never realized that the continuing theme of this series was anxiety and nervous anticipation. I guess the writers never meant for Rhoda’s marriage to last.
Revolutionary Views. At the core is the Jewish Mother Syndrome , worry, anxious, etc. It played well because back then, women going out on their own, mothers were nervous...
I didn't like it too,,, she waited so long for this marriage to happen too.
yup. i heard cuz they couldnt nake it funny with her married but if they were better writers. they could have. ie. I love lucy. the honeymooners.
But they were good writers so maybe its just the charactor Rhoda that people wanted her to be free and fun
@@shaharazon2449 that what I heard as well- the statement was , “Rhoda wasn’t funny anymore - after she got married”
@@runrgrl35 Just more insecure and neurotic. They made Brenda the funny one.
I actually owned a set of the towels like the one draped around Joe's neck (10:51). They were a gift from my boyfriend's mom when I moved into my first apartment after college. I also had the back-of-the-skirt-stuck-in-the-pantyhose experience. Fortunately, my friend told me about it right after she stopped laughing like a fool.
I wonder how many of us gals that has happened to over the years! Lol.
My mother-in-law actually had the very exact couch in her living room.. with dark green walls and red carpeting oh boy
I'm really luv'n these.
It’s a real shame they didn’t keep David Groh.. He was the perfect fit. He was a great Actor & this show went totally down hill after his departure.. With him the show would have run for 6-7 years & would have been one of the top 5 sit coms of ALL TIME!! They needed Groh to stay & much more if Nancy Walker.. I was very depressed when they dumped Groh. The story lines really sucked after the middle of the 2nd season!!
all true
I was really upset when they took Joe out of the show..😡 But they made him out to be such a cat on a hot tin roof relationship.. too bad. But still enjoyed every episode just the same.
Yeah, i hate that they took him off the show!😞
I love Carlton the doorman
Annoying
That couch ,yeap it will brighten that room up even with the lights off,the 70...
Great writing season 1.
What about the other seasons? Any good?
@@mernam5056not so much
Joe never wanted to be merrierd
agree
They were doomed from the beginning, look at the fight they got into when Rhoda got an extra week off from work to stay in NY longer and yes she was too defensive.
Because Joe didn't ask her to take time off from work to stay in New York for an extra week, and Rhoda just assumed that Joe, who owned a business,
could, and would, just drop all of his work, and hang out with her.
It was quite presumptuous of her.
People who own and run businesses, can't just take time off like that, or they wouldn't be in business much longer.
I love that couch. Wish I had it.
I looks great in her apartment.
Valerie Harper's delivery is very much like stand up comedy. She's got so much energy and charm. She had a great deal of versatility but I feel like the writers didn't really take advantage of it. She was constantly trying to keep a bunch of one trick ponies around her happy.
Yes I completely agree. It was disappointing that they held the character Rhoda back. But I believe that there was possibly a few reasons for this.
These are great!!!! CANT WAIT for the rest!!!
Loved it in the way back and still do🥰
Love the theme music!
This show needed Joe to balance all of the woe that Rhoda, Brenda , and Ida and Carlton brought every week.
Loved the coco plant joke.
Love Rhoda...a great work friend of 10 yrs (lost touch) used to sound just like Valerie H.
Brenda was considered fat in NY in the 70s. Today she'd be considered normal to thin!
And that couch was 70s if a bit loud!
Meir Wise I don’t understand how Branda was considered fat!!
As a kid in the 70's I was considered obese and put on a very strict diet. I played outside on my bike all day in the Louisiana heat, too. I look back on my pictures and just don't see it. But it was very hard for me to find clothes that fit. I think that's why I identified so much with Rhoda and Brenda.
@@1964DB me too. Very different with children these days
@@1964DB I remember when my friends and I considered BeIinda Carlisle the fat Go Go 😔 In the 80's we were size 1 and anything over a 7 (pushing it) was fat. Holy diver I'd kill to be that "fat" now
Now every broad you see is fat and they celebrate it.
My mother always thought Joe was not the right kind of guy for Rhoda. She needed different type.
I just keep hearing the og Marge Simpson every time Brenda talks...😁
I really right my watching these old shows a whole whole year
I liked the couch
Fear does not exist in this sitcom! No mercy!
Okay I thought the delivery guy was from Karate Kid.
i love that couch and joe was so good looking the first few seasons were so good
You’re so correct.. read my above post about them dumping David Groh!! He was a major part of the success of the show!!
This is the second vintage show I've seen recently that has a gumball machine lamp in the house/apartment. I don't recall those being a hot item in the 70s.
The green couch matches absolutely nothing in the apartment. Yuck. 😂
Berry Harbour - haha
Welcome to the 1970s!
It looks good in there somehow.
The actor playing Joe’s Dad is Robert Alda isn’t it, Alan Alda’s Dad. Looks like him.
Yes it is ‼️
And sounds just like him too 😂
Very cool!
Joe doesn’t deserve Rhoda
Hey - that's Inspector Izbecki (Martin Cove) from "Cagney & Lacey" as one of the moving men!!
Kove. Yeah, he was a hottie!
@@m1k3ywestley7 Martin Kove is currently literally kicking ass in Cobra Kai. If you haven't seen this show, BINGEWATCH IT AT ONCE! Best new show anytime lately.
Yes,, very good...☺
Why is the couch never facing the window? Lol and the same if there’s a fireplace always behind the couch too 😂
Brenda went out with Squiggly ‼️😀
That couch is ugly because I was never crazy about green, in any fabric. I love mint green and teal, just not common green. In most eps of her marriage, she has a different couch than the green one, with matching chair. Concerning couples in same household, furniture should be chosen with both people together. The thing is, both Rhoda and Joe have bad tempers, and both can be demanding. Joe is more of an introvert and likes to be at home evenings, and Rhoda was more of an 'out on the town' person. They should have discussed all that before marrying. Joe and Rhoda weren't even married for 2 full years. They must have had the shortest marriage in tv history.
Is it bad that it’s 2020 and I have Rhodas exact haircut ? 🤣
Brenda's hair looked really great when she let it grow out
No, it's not bad if the haircut looks good on you 🙂
Classic style never completely go out of style.
Needs bangs
@@Lanae8199not at all. Rhoda is a fashion icon.
Love the show, but the Joe character was never needed.😎
several episodes refer to Joe's previous marriages and the number of marriages/ex-wives is inconsistent...funny, wonder why they couldn't keep that straight haha
K Prieto and how long he had been married, how old his son was. . . The math didn't work.
Loved JH in the episode Weekend " he looks so fitted& sexy
Anything u say baby...funny!
It bugged me that they wrote in Henry Winkler, when he'd already played some one else back on mtm whom Rhoda dragged to Mary's first party for the congressman
When they said "He's been married twice", they were talking about Joe's Dad. It wasn't well phrased, made it sound like Joe.
Hey it's Isbecki from Cagney and Lacey! 🙂 @4:26
LOL Martin Kove who played Gary the delivery guy is exactly like Victor Isbecki (sp?) the character he would play on "Cagney and Lacey" in a few years.
I did like the sofa in that apartment but I don't think I'd like it in a different setting. It would be easy to get tired of it.
Alan Alda’s handsome father, Robert Alda, played Joe’s father.
Bad on them to ever have taken Joe off the show! 😢
"Rhoda" was great. Sadly, it was pretty well forgotten about after it ended in 1978, until it picked up some popularity again in the 90s when TV Land started airing it again. In some ways I think it even surpasses MTM Show. I say that because MTMS was always a bit on the side of Disney. Ted Baxter was not a believable character. The best part of the show was really Lou Grant, Rhoda, and Phyllis - and to an extent, even Murray and Sue Ann Nivens. Rhoda was just more real - although they did bring in a couple Disney characters occasionally, Nick Lobo and Johnny Venture. Rhoda's marriage is called "a mistake" by 90% of people. N, it was not. It was a necessary plot point so she could go back to do what she did best - being single. The only thing they jumped the shark on was the character of Benny Goodwin, who was a complete idiot, played by an actor who was about as interesting as watching cement harden. Other than that, it was great. Hardly a bad episode - and occasionally they'd have a really good guest star on.
That actor...familiar...
It was weekend night after they split when she bumped into him at a singles bar. Hmm
I hate that Brenda thinks she’s overweight, she’s so adorable and definitely not overweight, shame on society and tv for body shaming
Me to love. Rhoda and mary
Allen Aldas dad!
Joe was a whiner!!!!
I love that couch it just clashes with everything else, everything else is ugly lol
Rachel played the mother on Gimme a Break in a flashback.
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I'd never, ever marry a twice- divorced man. Why would any woman be #3. The track record speaks for itself.
It was Joe's father who was twice divorced.
the golden man from lost in space.....
I hate that Joe and Rhoda for divorced. Didn’t she go through enough on mtm and her own show?!!
Hey hey
The couch really was atrocious. If Rhoda's window decorating skills reflected her interior decorating skills, she should be a dental assistant.
Think the Audience was mesnt to applaud etc when Rhoda did the quick change from her cleaning garb to her night out glamour outfit! Instead a deafening silence. Oh dear. She did actually look nicer in the yellow blouse the next day.
So many thigh slaps!
That sofa is tres ugly!
Joe was learning quick, NEVER tell your wife the truth.
They got married too quick. Joe was not ready and could not adjust to being married again. They should have dated the first season and married in season 2.
Did they have to dress Brenda so sloppily? Her clothes seem about five sizes too big. I know they had to contrast her with the thin Rhoda, but poor Julie Kavner looks awful, and clumsy. Not necessary.
Thanks x
Must not be in order, last epidisde had the couch....one where's she not prego
Hi hi
Never liked the Joe character.....nothing about him was pleasing.
Joe's dad seems to live in Bob Newhart's apartment.
Hmmm
Bob's apartment had a higher level by the door and they had to step down to get to the couch
Actually, Alan Alda is Robert Alda's son. I always thought Robert Alda had a tendency to overact. He was to appear in another episode of Rhoda, and a couple of episodes of MASH, as a visiting stateside surgeon. Not related to Captain Benjamin Feanklin Pierce, played by the wonderful Alan Alda. Robert's overacting was evident in all those above appearances.
the music sounds alot like the music on TAXI
I love the characters in the show, Rhoda & Brenda in particular. I just wish they didn't write sooo many Brenda self-deprecating fat jokes. They even write self-deprecating jokes for Rhoda. So annoying. Brenda was not fat, and she was cute. I'll never get why people think these kinds of jokes are funny. I think the show could have been funnier without those jokes.
I have to chime in that at this time in the 70s , we ALL thought we were fat. Speed was so available with a script and not yet illegal. Most of us were self deprecating. When we looked in the mirror we didn’t see Twiggy or Shrimpton looking back.
Couch
Rhoda honey thst sofa is terrible
Am I the only one who didn't like Joe?
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No, my mother did not like him. Thought he was not the type Rhoda would have married.
Nope.
Not a great actor
IMO neither one of them was a rose. They both had a lot to learn about marriage.
Marriage is like pepto-bismol if you don't shake it up enough it doesn't work right! That would be fine if I was married to an upset stomach! LOL!
Their marriage sucks!! Its like the worlds biggest pity party with a smile!
My mother thought Joe was all wrong for Rhoda. Wrong type!
Compromise! Stay home 1 day and go do something fun the other day!
He work all day have to be honest.
Detective Isnecki? From Cagney & Lacey’s precinct