Eg4 6000xp Connected to Grid (How To)
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- This is the basic hook up of the EG four 6000 XP to a grid panel, you should always ensure that your panel is configured in such a way that this is appropriate. I attached this to my main grid panel in which my neutrals and grounds were essentially tied, there is a separate procedure to doing this if you were adding to a sub panel please do your own homework. Thanks for watching. 
I've had mine for a few weeks now. I agree with the other person, 50a is what you'd want to have for the grid breaker. As for invoking a charge from the grid, I'd suggest using the app or the remote monitor.eg4electronics connection on a laptop to set that up - the display on the unit is cumbersome to navigate.
From the phone app go to Setting, click Read All to load in the current settings, go down to AC Charge Start Battery SOC (%) and set that to your current battery percent minus 1. Set AC Charge End Battery SOC (%) to whatever you want it to stop at.
Also I've discovered that when you tell it to do something when the battery gets down to 20% that it actually does it at 19%. So it goes THROUGH your setting (20%) before it takes action. Same when it takes action on moving up in percent. Setting is to stop at 90% it will actually stop at 91%. So if you want it to stop charging at 90% you'll actually want to set it to 89%. Hope that makes sense. That really confused me at first.
This is so helpful, greatly appreciated! Will do this soon!
6 gauge less than 6 feet with a 50-amp breaker is how I am building mine. Check out, diy solar fun with Ray loveless he just posted a 39-minute video that will answer a lot of your questions. good luck.
I'm not a licensed electrician, but the main panel breaker needs to protect the wire - 8 gauge is what you mentioned. A 40A breaker is the largest you should use for 8 gauge at that length. If you up the wire gauge, you can use a larger breaker. On the other end, the 6000XP has it's own breaker to protect itself. I suspect the variables of length, wire gauge, and other conditions like conduit is the reason you were not given "professional" advice to answer your question, which would cause them to become liable for problems.
That’s what I figured, they didn’t want any of the liability, they are not familiar with my panel, circumstance etc, thanks for your input.
6 gauge less than 6 feet with a 50-amp breaker is how I am building mine. Check out, diy solar fun with Ray loveless he just posted a 39-minute video that will answer a lot of your questions. good luck.
Looking good
"The unit has an AC bypass grid of 50A. The max continuous AC current it can handle is 37.5A.
37.5A x 1.25 = 46.875
So I would use a 50A breaker." This is a email I received from Current Connected. I have the same unit and connected to the grid for assist.
I found it odd that Signature Solar would not give me a recommendation on this. I will do a bit more math/research and likely will change it out then. For now if undersized worst it will do is trip. Thank you for clarifying.
I also emailed SS and they verified the use of the same size breaker. Unless I know for sure I do not touch or turn on this stuff. Solar panels (6Kw) are waiting for install like you and using three 48v 100ahr batts - non EG4s@@ScottieBMan
So, is this grid tied or off grid? My electrician put in two double 50 amp breakers and used six gauge wire.
Also, I had an interconnect switch put in, so there’s no backfeeding to the grid!
Good set up, as for breakers I can not comment on but i would go with him! Mine is any grid tied for I sufficient solar production bc im still in process of getting that up and running, but it can be completely off grid so long as your generator or solar is supplying power. Does not have to be grid tied.
@@ScottieBMan Ok I hope this answer helps you and many others.. Just 3 people that are doing videos on these 6000xp inverters and helping install and use. DIY solar fun with Ray Loveless, Rodney Hunt, and Will Prowse. Search those 3 individuals but there are many more but these 3 will answer enough questions to get you going. Nothing worse than having all the equipment and it not being utilized. Good luck all.
Thank you for your posting. I am new to solar and always wanted to supplement some solar to my grid. I just want to do right around 6k solar system with grid-tie and maybe adding a battery for later. Here are my questions: 1. is EG4 6000xp usable as grid tied/hybrid? 2. If I don't use more electricity than what panels produce, can inverter charge battery instead back feeding? 3. I will start without battery first, can EG4 600xp be used as grid tied inverter without battery? Sorry for too basic questions. I am trying learn about solar system and DIY later, but so many info out there. Thank you!
Yes u can use as grid tied inverter it is capable of passing grid power through the inverter to power loads without solar input.
You will need a battery to use with this inverter. If you produce more solar power than what is required for your panel loads it will charge the batteries yes.
I would look at the eg4 wall mount indoor battery that just came out…looks better than server rack batteries.
Ok I hope this answer helps you and many others.. Just 3 people that are doing videos on these 6000xp inverters and helping install and use. DIY solar fun with Ray Loveless, Rodney Hunt, and Will Prowse. Search those 3 individuals but there are many more but these 3 will answer enough questions to get you going. Nothing worse than having all the equipment and it not being utilized. Good luck all.
I am new as well and am still learning, but to be clear, this inverter will NOT backfeed the grid. You can pull power from the grid to run your home and charge batteries, but you will not be able to send excess power back to the grid for credit from your utility company. You woul need the EG4 18K to do that.
@@robertbrownell3918100% correct
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Question for you.. So you’ve got this connected to the grid in your main sub-panel there, and then your load is going to your smaller sub panel. So i see how that inverter sits between your two panels.. but how does it connect to a more traditional residential setup, where I’ve got the whole house breaker on the outside of the home, and the main sub-panel inside? Do you have to sever that connection so that the inverter connects between the two panels? Would that even been feasible with 200 amps going from the whole house to sub-panel breaker?
You should be able to back feed your panel that has the critical loads on it. You would want to disconnect the panel from the grid while doing this so you’re not back feeding the grid, a lot of people use a deadman’s switch, I have one of those on my sub panels, which I back feed with the inverter for the critical loads but only if needed during a power outage, I will be connecting solar soon
Curious about breaker size too. I have a spare 2p50 for an RV outlet but intended to get a 40. Manual doesn't address that?
Another viewer had stated that 50amp dual pole was appropriate size as recommended by their supplier. I will do some more homework on this.
@@ScottieBMan Ok I hope this answer helps you and many others.. Just 3 people that are doing videos on these 6000xp inverters and helping install and use. DIY solar fun with Ray Loveless, Rodney Hunt, and Will Prowse. Search those 3 individuals but there are many more but these 3 will answer enough questions to get you going. Nothing worse than having all the equipment and it not being utilized. Good luck all.
The book can't specify because it depends on the wire gauge, length, wire material (aluminum/copper), and load durations. Electricians have tables and formulas to determine the proper breaker size for the load being applied. They are also available on the net if you are so inclined.
I am in the same boat as you, I got the 6000xp have it up and running but can't get it to charge, I am only using 120 for the grid in, no solar at this time, yes the manual is worthless unless you are a inverter engineer and understand it, sort of wish I went with the plug and play inverters like BLUETTI AC300 at this point, I too am waiting for a response from Signature Solar, I will be waiting for your next video to see how you got it to work.
So far my inverter and EG4 14.3 power wall is just hanging on the wall but can't use it, afraid to get solar and wonder if I can figure out it charges.
I was able to get it to charge with the “quick charge” functional through the app, I put 1600 work of solar out and can charge my two batteries rather quickly, I would just go with that. If you get the wireless dongle set up through the app SS can remote in and change the settings. Nice choice on the power wall!
@@ScottieBMan I bought the AIM's battery charger to charge my EG4 power wall for now till I get solar panels, trying to get the 120 volts to charge batts thru the grid in on inverter is not working and I am not that techy to try and get it working on the iPhone or laptop, when I get the solar panels I won't need the AIM's charger very much after that, when hooking up solar I hope it's a plug and play and not a bunch of programming to get it to work, was not aware of the programing on the 6000xp before I bought it, maybe someday I will learn, will be setting up iPhone to dongle soon.
I have heard on other videos that charging the batts with 120 volts does not work well, most say you need 240 in to get it to work.
Ok I hope this answer helps you and many others.. Just 3 people that are doing videos on these 6000xp inverters and helping install and use. DIY solar fun with Ray Loveless, Rodney Hunt, and Will Prowse. Search those 3 individuals but there are many more but these 3 will answer enough questions to get you going. Nothing worse than having all the equipment and it not being utilized. Good luck all.
I have a single 100amp service panel for my small home, a 6000xp and would like to do what you did here but do I need sub panel in between my main panel and the 6000xp?
No, you do not need a sub panel between, that’s just how my scenario is. You can connect to your inverter without that, just make sure if you are going to back feed your panel you put a dead man switch in so your not back feeding to the grid.
@ScottieBMan Thanks. I had my my uncle look at it, he been an electrician in Colorado for 50 years, he said it's super easy. Just add a 50 amp breaker to my main service panel (had to make room by stacking another low amp circuit to one that could handle a little more current) feed the 50 amp breaker with 6 gauge wire to the 6000xp's grid input..simple. I thought I would have to upgrade my entire service panel but he pointed out that once my solar is running and supplying power from either the batterys or panels, it will be powering a good portion of my electric needs..off grid, so it will be just fine.
And yes, the transfer switch I wired to my service panel is a reliance pro Trans 2 (it can run 6 circuits) and takes each circuit over once manually selected, off grid. So there is no backfeed
@@A.C.71correct. You will have to run a circuit from the inverters LOAD back to the panel on a separate run however. But yes that is correct.
I’m curious to see how this works with the grid. I’m looking at doing something similar to this basically supplementing some loads on my house with solar. Not backfeeding to the grid
I’ll keep ya posted on how it goes! Thanks for watching
Im wanting to do this exact thing for my house. How did you have your loads connected? I was under the impression that I needed a sub panel to connect my loads to eg4 inverter and not back feed into grid.
Is that correct?
@@ScottieBMan Im wanting to do this exact thing for my house. How did you have your loads connected? I was under the impression that I needed a sub panel to connect my loads to eg4 inverter and not back feed into grid.
Is that correct?
@@israelherrera7066yeah sub panel for critical loads is an option, what I would look into is a transfer switch tho, it makes switching between the grid and solar much more fluent. You could also throw a larger breaker into your panel and back-feed to that but not recommend if your on grid bc you could electrocute someone working on the grid, but if your off grid that’s an option too.
@@israelherrera7066 Ok I hope this answer helps you and many others.. Just 3 people that are doing videos on these 6000xp inverters and helping install and use. DIY solar fun with Ray Loveless, Rodney Hunt, and Will Prowse. Search those 3 individuals but there are many more but these 3 will answer enough questions to get you going. Nothing worse than having all the equipment and it not being utilized. Good luck all.
So the wire you ran will power whats in your 200 amp box? Or just as much as it is able, and the gird will make up the rest?
This has been by the far the best video i have seen.
The wire from the grid power will power the Eg4 inverter in the absence of solar and or battery power. Thanks for watching.
@@ScottieBMan
What are you powering with the inverter?
@@ScottieBMan
That make since, but for say i want to power certain things in my 200 amp box, how do i do that?
@@Valor4Christ you need to remove all circuits from the main panel that you want to run from the 6000xp and connect them to a separate sub panel. the circuit he showed in this video powers them if the battery and solar are not sufficient to do so. Also charges the batteries when there is not enough solar.
Great video! I have a question, connected the way that you have, does the 6000xp backfeed the grid at all? If not, how does it accomplish this? Does it sense the load and only output as necessary, or is there some “zero export” setting in the 6000xp menu?
Hey there is no way to sell back power with 6000xp but if you are to backfeed your panel you would have to do this hooked up to the “Load” output on the Inverter. Which is different than the “Grid” input breaker. Thanks for watching!
Ok I hope this answer helps you and many others.. Just 3 people that are doing videos on these 6000xp inverters and helping install and use. DIY solar fun with Ray Loveless, Rodney Hunt, and Will Prowse. Search those 3 individuals but there are many more but these 3 will answer enough questions to get you going. Nothing worse than having all the equipment and it not being utilized. Good luck all.
@@ScottieBMan you should not feed your main panel from the 6000xp unless the MAIN breaker is off. Also any loads the 6000xp cant handle.
@@user-tv8ey6qy9j I’m powering a sub panel, it is protected with circuit interlock kit, thanks
Stupid question. How does this tie into the grid and provide power to all the circuits?
Yes, it can power a small panel such as a sub panel. The way I showed was how to connect power from the grid to inverter. You can “back feed” a panel in a similar fashion just not the way I showed.
@@ScottieBMan thank you for the rapid reply. I'd want it to back feed and power up my house when grid goes offline....
The inverter is literally the most important component in a solar system and high frequency inverters are the cheapest form of inverter technology on the market, which explains why no American inverter manufacturer on the market uses high frequency inverter tech in their designs. They only use low frequency transformer based inverter designs.
Thanks for sharing.