Love Lutron and Caseta... whole house is fitted out, but this one seems like a pass to me. Although, I have had all my outdoor lights on plug-in dimmers for a couple years now :) Being electrically inclined, I ran a new circuit to an 8" PVC enclosure mounted under the deck. Plugged the plug-in dimmer in, ran a pigtail from that out to where I can access for other lights. Works like a charm, and it's practically invisible.
I wish the end of the plug was longer, perhaps various lengths to choose from. And it shows the pain plug into the house covered from the elements… but the other end uncovered… is that safe? Maybe make a clam shell to cover both ends
Been using Lutron plugs and switches indoors for several years now and finally made the jump to use smart plugs for my Christmas lights. I was surprised to find Lutron still didn't have anything. Had to shrug it off and go with something else for outside. Odd its taken so long to release this.
So what did you end up using for your Christmas lights? We just bought a new house and had plugs installed in the easements, tried to use a smart switch and the breaker kept popping along with the switch getting really hot. Next year I will try LED lights and hope the smart switch will work.
@@nmarq005 I just went with Kasa. I had one existing indoor plug that I was using outside on my protected patio (because it had the 3 prong) whereas the Lutron dimmers did not. I got several of the Kasa Outdoor Smart Plug (KP400). Bought them on AMZ, and they were discounted (still are right now) so its a great deal. Moved that other one from my patio to inside to use with the Christmas tree. I don't want to have too many apps, so I've been trying to just stick with the two brands. I like that there are two plugs. Downside is that there is no dimmer (if that matters) so patio lights are either on or off. My buddy also told me it doesn't work direct with Apple Homekit but there are ways of doing it. I don't use Homekit, so wasn't an issue for me. For me the price was a big thing - they retail for $40 CDN on AMZ, but you can get them for $25-27 CDN right now. My indoor dimmers and switches from Lutron are pretty pricey by comparison, but I do like the pico remotes and dimming capabilities of those.
@@nmarq005 BTW, we did the same. When we built our place, we added a variety of plugs on separate breakers on the side and under easements. This year we actually sold off all out incandescent C9 off cheap and moved to LED. We still have non-LED deer, rope lights, etc, but the main draw of the lights isn't there. You'll like the LED.
Looks excellent! However I can barely manage the range of my Caseta system to reach devices that are inside my house. I’m at the limit with my range extenders already. Also, the limit of 75 devices gets used up fast when every Pico controller also counts as a device. I’d like to make further investment here but I’m up against a wall.
Hi Jim, The Lutron app does allow for multi-home, which means multiple smart bridges can be added to the same email account. Users can toggle between the smart bridges/ homes without having to use multiple emails or signing in and out of the Lutron app.
Cool, now do an outdoor smart plug that supports dimming (for patio string lights). And don't tell me to use PD-3PCL - it's not outdoor rated and doesn't accept grounded plugs.
Definately need a switch with dry contact input. This can activate lights when using a 3rd party auxillary device such as a driveway alert system like "Cartell" . Also would like to be able to assign a flashing of my interior lights ; for example 3 flashes of my bedroom light if driveway alert detects someone arriving during late evening hours only!
Where’s the dual outlet so I can control two devices. I already looked for this around December for my Christmas light and outdoor rope lights. I don’t need both on at the same time. Huge miss! I already purchased the meross Smart Outdoor Plug to sync with my Apple Home app. It doesn’t stay online as well caseta but it gets the job done.
Agree, would love to have an indoor plug - Caseta works great as a switch and other plugs have issues in disconnecting and not reconnecting which causes issue w Homekit.
My wife bought this and what they don't make clear is if you just buy the "smart" plug/switch you will need to buy an additional hub to connect it to anything for an additional cost. I have the "smart" plug-in switch sitting on my desk right now but by itself its just an on/off switch. I didn't want to have to plug in and unplug my lights all the time. With the Lutron, I still have to go to the plug and push the button. I can't connect to the app, I can't connect to my wifi. Nothing without the additional hub. Why? I wanted a smart plug. Instead, I have an $80 on/off button. It is far from "smart" if you only have the plug-in switch. Take the word smart off this product until you only sell it with the hub together. It is a dumb on/off switch and this is all, I will be returning it asap.
I've been waiting forever for this, but you're late to the party. I have a 2 outlet one now that is independently controlled and can also be scheduled for $25
Wow, underwhelming. What about a light and fan combo switch for Caseta? There are already a ton of these outdoor switches on the market. I'll pass on this one.
usually low voltage transformers are just plugged into a standard outlet, so this will be plugged into the outlet before the transformer and will work.
Should have been an outlet, not a pigtail. One reason I did a lot of Caseta is they LOOK good. This is just another ugly add-on. OK, outdoors that may be easy to hide, but I would like outlets inside also. Not wall warts either, a real, honest outlet, inside the box.
They need a TR WR GFCI outlet which connects to caseta. Leviton updated their GFCI receptacles about 5 years ago. Made them smaller to fit better. Lutron, you can do it!
Please increase limit again! It's only stopping me from spending more $ on your devices. I find them so handy and I can't understand why you limit it. I'm even happy to buy a second hub as long as they can talk to each other, etc.
Hi Michael, We appreciate your feedback and will pass it along to our engineering and product development teams. The Lutron app for Caséta/Ra2 Select does allow for multi-home, which means users can toggle in-between different homes within the same app/email account. However, if adding a second smart bridge in same house, users will have change over to the "2nd bridge" to control the devices that are paired to it. Lutron would recommend reaching out to a local dealer in your area for more information on our other home systems. To find a local dealer, please visit www.lutron.com/wheretobuy
@@Lutron-Electronics - understood but I love your integrations with Alexa and Smartthings which I use extensively with motion sensors, etc. Without them, I really just have your scheduling which is nice but not worth the cost and time. I'm stuck because replacing 75 devices is not an option due to cost but I'd definitely add another 25+ if you upped the limit again. Is the issue hardware based or just an arbitrary software limitation?
@@michaelabram9463 Hi Michael, Thanks for the feedback. We can't discuss project roadmaps at this time, but we will pass along your suggestion to our team.
Love the idea, but really needs the 2 outlets, ideally separately controllable. At a minimum and even from your product video you're going to be taking up both plugs from an outlet, so what if you already have one plug used? You're giving up the outlet completely to program only. D-Link has a 2 outlet controllable version for $49.99
Hi Jason, Our Outdoor Smart Plug is not available for purchase just yet! We will be sharing more info on our social channels when it is available. Thanks for your patience!
They use privately purchase bands 431 MHz to 437 MHz that’s licensed for Lutron use only which is why the system is so stable and doesn’t experience interference from other devices, WiFi, 2.5 or 5.0 GHz stuff. It’s a rock solid & fast system.
First off you’re late to the party, I just bought (before Christmas) EIGHT Kasa by Wemo Outdoor... Seems you only have one outlet, there’s two, INDEPENDENTLY controlled through app, and integrate with SMARTTHINGS too. YOUR DEVICE looks like it’s only controlled through app, theirs through the app, OR at the device Sad your so late, & unimpressive, I expected more... I have about a dozen Casetta indoor ones I use for my window candles love them, and love the fact that thy are dimmable. Does this one allow dimming as your indoor ones do? If not I don’t need it at all,
“Doesn’t use home WiFi” so... how does it connect to my home automation system? Also agree about the missed opportunity for dimming (if it doesn’t) and multiple plug options.
Does this make make any sense at all, exterior outlet must have GFCI protection right? So what’s goin to prevent the extension cord plug to get in contact with water from, rain or sprinklers... it will definitely trip GFCI protection..
The only thing I can see this being useful for are transformers and pumps, and most of those you can intercept with a traditional caseta on/off switch and pico, same thing but better. Waste of R&D in my opinion. A fan and light control in a single game location? Great idea. A hardwired receptacle for swimming and or motor loads? Another great idea. A plug in version that looks like Bob the builder designed and built? Hard sell...
So it's a dongle? We can get inline switches anywhere. YOURE AND ELECTRICAL COMPANY 🤣 make us a smart outlet with energy monitoring and independent control. I'll replace all my outlet with Caseta outlets!
The current dimmer switch (PD-6WCL) does not require a neutral wire. I have ~ 15 of them installed. I would prefer them to have a neutral. The fan switch, on the other hand, requires a neutral.
@@eno1201 Yes, they have a dimmer that doesn't require a nuetral, but it will always start the lights at the highest setting. It would be nice to have a dimmer switch that will go to the last setting you used when you turn it on, or at least default it to 50%. They have a switch that does this, but it requires a neutral. It's the one thing keeping me from installing they're switches in my whole house.
@@scgear3847 Does that not work on the pico? I remember getting it to work at one point with a circuit that was practically blinding at 100%. It is a bit hacky but it is something. Though I agree they should put the favorite button on the $55 switch.
Love Lutron and Caseta... whole house is fitted out, but this one seems like a pass to me. Although, I have had all my outdoor lights on plug-in dimmers for a couple years now :) Being electrically inclined, I ran a new circuit to an 8" PVC enclosure mounted under the deck. Plugged the plug-in dimmer in, ran a pigtail from that out to where I can access for other lights. Works like a charm, and it's practically invisible.
I'm excited! Thanks Lutron.
Exactly what I’ve been looking for!
I wish the end of the plug was longer, perhaps various lengths to choose from. And it shows the pain plug into the house covered from the elements… but the other end uncovered… is that safe? Maybe make a clam shell to cover both ends
Been using Lutron plugs and switches indoors for several years now and finally made the jump to use smart plugs for my Christmas lights. I was surprised to find Lutron still didn't have anything. Had to shrug it off and go with something else for outside. Odd its taken so long to release this.
So what did you end up using for your Christmas lights?
We just bought a new house and had plugs installed in the easements, tried to use a smart switch and the breaker kept popping along with the switch getting really hot. Next year I will try LED lights and hope the smart switch will work.
@@nmarq005 I just went with Kasa. I had one existing indoor plug that I was using outside on my protected patio (because it had the 3 prong) whereas the Lutron dimmers did not. I got several of the Kasa Outdoor Smart Plug (KP400). Bought them on AMZ, and they were discounted (still are right now) so its a great deal. Moved that other one from my patio to inside to use with the Christmas tree. I don't want to have too many apps, so I've been trying to just stick with the two brands. I like that there are two plugs. Downside is that there is no dimmer (if that matters) so patio lights are either on or off. My buddy also told me it doesn't work direct with Apple Homekit but there are ways of doing it. I don't use Homekit, so wasn't an issue for me. For me the price was a big thing - they retail for $40 CDN on AMZ, but you can get them for $25-27 CDN right now. My indoor dimmers and switches from Lutron are pretty pricey by comparison, but I do like the pico remotes and dimming capabilities of those.
@@nmarq005 BTW, we did the same. When we built our place, we added a variety of plugs on separate breakers on the side and under easements. This year we actually sold off all out incandescent C9 off cheap and moved to LED. We still have non-LED deer, rope lights, etc, but the main draw of the lights isn't there. You'll like the LED.
Lutron's the best! Well made video and fun music, too! Caséta is where it's at.
Will it have dimming capabilities? If it does, this will be a home run for patio string lights.
this is a cool idea but, unless incandescent, most patio string lights wouldn't support dimming.
@@mojobird70 Almost all of the popular string lights sold online are dimmable, LED or not. This is a huge swing and miss for Lutron.
Came to say the same thing. Needs LED dimming. Not hard to add a dimmer in line but would be good to have it in the Lutron app.
@AkshonClips that's a great idea for protected locations and in temperate climates but it isn't rated to work in colder climates
There is a plug-in dimmer already. It’s the PD-3PCL. Swing and a home run.
Finally!!! Yes!!!!😃😃😃😃
Nice can we expect it to be available to RA and QSX soon?
Hi Brian, Thanks for reaching out. We can't discuss project roadmaps at this time, but we will pass along your suggestion to our team.
Why didn't this come out a few months ago? Seems like an obvious miss.
probably Covid
It probably just wasn't ready. I'm sure that they would have released it in November if it had been.
Springtime is just around the corner. A small miss with Christmas lights but still a big win for string lights.
Probably just an unfortunate delay due to Covid.
The TP Link outdoor plug works like a charm, has 2 outlets, and can find it for $20
Except it’s a piece of junk.
OK...now bump the device up further bc I am MAXED out already!
The device limit was bumped once already from 50 to 75. If you need more, upgrade.
Hi Rodney, We appreciate your feedback and will pass it along to the team. Thanks for being a loyal Lutron customer!
Looks excellent! However I can barely manage the range of my Caseta system to reach devices that are inside my house. I’m at the limit with my range extenders already. Also, the limit of 75 devices gets used up fast when every Pico controller also counts as a device. I’d like to make further investment here but I’m up against a wall.
You can add multiple Boxes - I have 5 with over 200 devices - works great w Homekit - Alexa will only control 1 box
@@spblythe doesn’t that require a different email address for each hub?
Hi Jim, The Lutron app does allow for multi-home, which means multiple smart bridges can be added to the same email account. Users can toggle between the smart bridges/ homes without having to use multiple emails or signing in and out of the Lutron app.
Cool, now do an outdoor smart plug that supports dimming (for patio string lights). And don't tell me to use PD-3PCL - it's not outdoor rated and doesn't accept grounded plugs.
How about a dry contact activated switch To control my security lights from from a driveway sensor, existing LUTRON casita floodlights and switch’s.
Definately need a switch with dry contact input. This can activate lights when using a 3rd party auxillary device such as a driveway alert system like "Cartell" . Also would like to be able to assign a flashing of my interior lights ; for example 3 flashes of my bedroom light if driveway alert detects someone arriving during late evening hours only!
Where’s the dual outlet so I can control two devices. I already looked for this around December for my Christmas light and outdoor rope lights. I don’t need both on at the same time. Huge miss! I already purchased the meross Smart Outdoor Plug to sync with my Apple Home app. It doesn’t stay online as well caseta but it gets the job done.
Price please
SOOO how is the male/female plug connection at the bottom outside the bubble cover water proof exactly? A bit confused about that
when are you coming out with an indoor version?
Agree, would love to have an indoor plug - Caseta works great as a switch and other plugs have issues in disconnecting and not reconnecting which causes issue w Homekit.
Lutron does. It’s the PD-3PCL.
@@Moschini757 what is needed is a non dimmer plug that supports more than just a light.
@@Moschini757 that is a dimmable unit, you can't use it on things that are not dimmable compatible.
Wait, is there also an indoor smart plug that's not just for lamps that is compatible?
Damn. I just bought two Wemo outside plug because you didn’t have any.
My wife bought this and what they don't make clear is if you just buy the "smart" plug/switch you will need to buy an additional hub to connect it to anything for an additional cost. I have the "smart" plug-in switch sitting on my desk right now but by itself its just an on/off switch. I didn't want to have to plug in and unplug my lights all the time. With the Lutron, I still have to go to the plug and push the button. I can't connect to the app, I can't connect to my wifi. Nothing without the additional hub. Why? I wanted a smart plug. Instead, I have an $80 on/off button. It is far from "smart" if you only have the plug-in switch. Take the word smart off this product until you only sell it with the hub together. It is a dumb on/off switch and this is all, I will be returning it asap.
I just bought a Caseta switch and a two pole relay.
Will this show power usage?
I've been waiting forever for this, but you're late to the party. I have a 2 outlet one now that is independently controlled and can also be scheduled for $25
Wow, underwhelming. What about a light and fan combo switch for Caseta? There are already a ton of these outdoor switches on the market. I'll pass on this one.
but this will use your lutron brain and not your wifi
Can I use this to make my low voltage landscape lighting "smart"? I already have Caseta bridge and many Caseta switches in the house.
usually low voltage transformers are just plugged into a standard outlet, so this will be plugged into the outlet before the transformer and will work.
Should have been an outlet, not a pigtail. One reason I did a lot of Caseta is they LOOK good. This is just another ugly add-on. OK, outdoors that may be easy to hide, but I would like outlets inside also. Not wall warts either, a real, honest outlet, inside the box.
It is a plug at the end.
They need a TR WR GFCI outlet which connects to caseta. Leviton updated their GFCI receptacles about 5 years ago. Made them smaller to fit better. Lutron, you can do it!
Please increase limit again! It's only stopping me from spending more $ on your devices. I find them so handy and I can't understand why you limit it. I'm even happy to buy a second hub as long as they can talk to each other, etc.
Hi Michael, We appreciate your feedback and will pass it along to our engineering and product development teams. The Lutron app for Caséta/Ra2 Select does allow for multi-home, which means users can toggle in-between different homes within the same app/email account. However, if adding a second smart bridge in same house, users will have change over to the "2nd bridge" to control the devices that are paired to it. Lutron would recommend reaching out to a local dealer in your area for more information on our other home systems. To find a local dealer, please visit www.lutron.com/wheretobuy
@@Lutron-Electronics - understood but I love your integrations with Alexa and Smartthings which I use extensively with motion sensors, etc. Without them, I really just have your scheduling which is nice but not worth the cost and time. I'm stuck because replacing 75 devices is not an option due to cost but I'd definitely add another 25+ if you upped the limit again. Is the issue hardware based or just an arbitrary software limitation?
@@michaelabram9463 Hi Michael, Thanks for the feedback. We can't discuss project roadmaps at this time, but we will pass along your suggestion to our team.
Love the idea, but really needs the 2 outlets, ideally separately controllable. At a minimum and even from your product video you're going to be taking up both plugs from an outlet, so what if you already have one plug used? You're giving up the outlet completely to program only. D-Link has a 2 outlet controllable version for $49.99
Am I missing the part numbers and where to buy
Hi Jason, Our Outdoor Smart Plug is not available for purchase just yet! We will be sharing more info on our social channels when it is available. Thanks for your patience!
Doesn't use your homes wifi...what DOES it use?
They use privately purchase bands 431 MHz to 437 MHz that’s licensed for Lutron use only which is why the system is so stable and doesn’t experience interference from other devices, WiFi, 2.5 or 5.0 GHz stuff. It’s a rock solid & fast system.
@@williambarnett7258 Agreed. I’ve had most of my home on Lutron for the last 12 months and had very very few problems.
All that protection for the electronics and nothing to protect the plug at the end.
Nice but you are about 5 years too late on this one.
Lutron is never late...they're awesome and they make sure their devices work before rollout rather than rushing.
First off you’re late to the party,
I just bought (before Christmas) EIGHT Kasa by Wemo Outdoor...
Seems you only have one outlet, there’s two, INDEPENDENTLY controlled through app, and integrate with SMARTTHINGS too. YOUR DEVICE looks like it’s only controlled through app, theirs through the app, OR at the device
Sad your so late, & unimpressive, I expected more... I have about a dozen Casetta indoor ones I use for my window candles love them, and love the fact that thy are dimmable.
Does this one allow dimming as your indoor ones do? If not I don’t need it at all,
“Doesn’t use home WiFi” so... how does it connect to my home automation system?
Also agree about the missed opportunity for dimming (if it doesn’t) and multiple plug options.
I assume you need the Lutron bridge - but I haven’t seen specs yet.
Missed an opportunity to replace the outside outlet completely, most of which are junk.
Does this make make any sense at all, exterior outlet must have GFCI protection right? So what’s goin to prevent the extension cord plug to get in contact with water from, rain or sprinklers... it will definitely trip GFCI protection..
Anyone knows the Amperage ?
Pausing the video at the 4 second mark, looks like 15A.
@@craigbjorklund you are right
The only thing I can see this being useful for are transformers and pumps, and most of those you can intercept with a traditional caseta on/off switch and pico, same thing but better. Waste of R&D in my opinion. A fan and light control in a single game location? Great idea. A hardwired receptacle for swimming and or motor loads? Another great idea. A plug in version that looks like Bob the builder designed and built? Hard sell...
*single gang location
*dimming
How Much ??? $80 each SURE ....No problem...IF I OWN A YACHT !!!! I still will buy...lol
Looks like won't work with low voltage lighting
What does that mean practically speaking? No dimming?
You plug the low voltage transformer into it. It has 110 AC out
A little too late to the market and no dimming? Seems like you missed the boat with this one.
So it's a dongle? We can get inline switches anywhere. YOURE AND ELECTRICAL COMPANY 🤣 make us a smart outlet with energy monitoring and independent control. I'll replace all my outlet with Caseta outlets!
Only one outlet? What a waste
Meh, no big deal....How about a dimmer switch that remembers its last setting!!! and that doesn't need a neutral wire?
The current dimmer switch (PD-6WCL) does not require a neutral wire. I have ~ 15 of them installed. I would prefer them to have a neutral. The fan switch, on the other hand, requires a neutral.
@@eno1201 Yes, they have a dimmer that doesn't require a nuetral, but it will always start the lights at the highest setting. It would be nice to have a dimmer switch that will go to the last setting you used when you turn it on, or at least default it to 50%. They have a switch that does this, but it requires a neutral. It's the one thing keeping me from installing they're switches in my whole house.
@@scgear3847 Does that not work on the pico? I remember getting it to work at one point with a circuit that was practically blinding at 100%. It is a bit hacky but it is something. Though I agree they should put the favorite button on the $55 switch.
@@eno1201 I could wall mount a pico remote to get that function, but then why have a switch I don’t use on the wall?
@@scgear3847 Yea, it would be nice if the switches had that middle button. It would also make it look consistent with the pico remotes.