Hello, everybody! I'm Oscar Ibañez, a member of Dungeon Universalis team. I would like to announce that, given the success the game has achieved worldwide, we are going to launch a reprint campaign on Kickstarter that will also include several expansions. We expect this launch to take place shortly after the summer. Thank you all for your interest and keep enjoying our game. We’ve put the best of us in it!
High difficulty. Critical failures. Courage roles. Event and furniture decks. Balancing point system. AI good and varied. Random dungeon discovered as you go. Optional advanced rules. Quest designer. Huge amount of quests. One offs and campaigns. hundreds of enemies... Every time you flipped a page I got happier and happier. Man am I glad I've got this on the way!
These are the type of games I see myself playing in my 50s or retirement age. I'm 35 with two kids and there's no way I can get this to the table I fear. Still, I'm excited to see these games come to fruition. It's almost like window shopping for me on your channel. Great coverage as per usual. I need to get a copy of Horrified at somepoint.
Bought one of the last games in their shop on Sunday. I hope they will ship it someday 😔 thank you very much for the video. Please do a lot more to help me waiting 😉
So glad you’re doing this one! Hope you do some play through. Your insights and conversations are some of my favorite videos. I just received SCAM today (on your and Tom Chic’s recommendations), and DUN should be in tomorrow or next day.
Thanks Daniel another nice job. I did back this for a $1 but didn’t convert this to a full pledge. If I remember it was the translation worry that was holding me back. But it looks like they have done a really professional job all round. Between this and Hunters 2114 I would say your fully booked for the rest of the year.
The translation issue was cause for concern. I don't think it's a perfect translation....there are some oddly phrased sentences and errors. However, so far it hasn't prevented me from understanding the game.
I’m so glad in today’s gaming climate where streamlining is generally favored that games like Dungeon Universalis and Dungeon Crusade still exist for us folks who love deep, and as you put it, crunchy games.
So true. And thank God, Crowdfunding exists. We would not see these games on regular retail channels. Take Dungeon Degenerates for another example. ;) Galaxy Defenders is another one. It failed on the retail market, God knows why, maybe because of its harsh difficulty (that is what the designer said).
Seems like quite a beast of a game. That much rules overhead usually brushes up against my "might as well just play a video game" limit, especially since the majority of my plays are solo. I don't mind modding and tweaking rules though, so I'm looking forward to hearing more about this one and seeing how it shakes out.
I just bought my copy of this game on Monday (hasn't shipped yet) so pretty cool to see you do a vid on it (although I can't finish the vid until tomorrow). The game looks fantastic, so hopefully your review is favorable.
Great (but intimidating!) look inside the books. I eagerly await my copy. My mind is already churning with ways to pare it down but fantastic amount of content with which to work.
For me it is a huge Dungeon Tool Box, After reading the 100 Pages Manual und playing the First Game i came To this conclusion. This is a Big Treasure Chest for all Players and all designers. Thanks for the review
Erzähl mal, was es kann. :) Meine Hauptfrage: Ist es "nur" eine Toolbox oder ist es auch wirklich ein gutes, austariertes Spiel? Daniel deutet ja schon Balanceprobleme im OL-Modus an.
Die Nische In erster Linie weckt es bei mir Erinnerungen zu alten Fantasybüchern, ich finde sowas immer sehr charmant. Zum Spiel selber kann ich noch nicht soviel sagen, da hab ich einfach zu wenig bis jetzt von gesehen. Fühlt sich jetzt auf jedenfall schon besser als Descent an 😂
It reminds me of old fantasy Comics and bookcover, very charming for me personally. After one Game it‘s Not easy To Talk about the Game. The first Game was Better than Descent 2, perhaps this could answer some questions.
@@DieNische "Better" is a tough one because while both games are part of the same genre, they are vastly different. DU Pros - hundreds of hours of gameplay, it appears; an incredible amount of options and depth; a perhaps overwhelming number of monsters; a sandbox to create your own stories and adventures. TGB Pros - easy to learn; quick to set up; a story that is pre-written so players are experiencing that story rather than telling their own in this universe (some may enjoy that, others may wish they could create their own). TGB is not unlike Diablo, old school Final Fantasy or World of Warcraft, where the narrative and environments are avenues to give purpose to the combat. TGB is very much a combat-focused game, but does have strong elements of exploration, random events, and all that good stuff. I think that's one of the things I love most about dungeon crawlers is that there are so many different variations of the genre, all of which can be extremely fun and compelling if designed well. That's why there will never be a "dungeon crawler to end all dungeon crawlers," because there is always room for new variations.
@@HBBackstar Thanks so much...shouldn't be too much longer! Just wrapping up the final rulebook and continuing playtesting all the missions ad nauseam...then we should be able to hit the print button sometime this summer.
Dustin Freund Dustin, do not worry. Take your time to playtest. If I am asked which steps are most important in late development stage, I would say: 1. Playtesting, 2. Playtesting, 3. Playtesting, 4. Take your time for a final and clear rulebook and player aids! :P
Good video as always. At first I was complaining because of all the things you need to do in order to play. But now I've started to create my own set of rules for combat in order to keep it easy...and now I'm going to think how to manage ennemies/standees/attributes/wounds....cos having tokens around standees is not a fun/ergonomic solution I may do what Gloomhaven do....an envelope to put a scan of ennemy card(cos there're not printed, only in bestiaries), and something to follow Hit Points for each standee with the standee's number...and use it to put weapons tokens too...maybe it can work. The dark player AI is well done and easy to use, and it can be quite fun for the solo/coop even when you no the scenario.
@@TheDungeonDive The Dark player in solo mode is a kind of event generator either Obstacle or Encounter depending on one character action(open door, chest, revealing new room) so yes it could surprise you and it is easy to do. The good things is that it consumes DP points from the reserve created at the beginning based on character values. I won't go too much on partiel cover, heights, and I wont compare agility, I will follow a list like this one for ranged attack Modifiers : A/ From Target +1 if in the back ( No shield use for target ) +2 if immobile target +1 if Tall +2 if Huge -1 if flying -1 if Small -2 if more than half Weapon distance B/ From attacker -1 if shot after moving -1 if all move capacity used -2 if defensive shot So I can quickly go trough this list and roll dices....and the same for Melee combat and Magic, I want to avoid looking too much in books or the Screen "Messy" Master and I want to look at ennemies plus and minus the fastest as possible...Cos If I have to spend 5 minutes knowing that at the end I have -1 modifier it will be boring
@@Boardgamer69 It's your game, and you can play it any way you want but be careful, because you can break the balance it has. more.... By not comparing the agility in the draws you are taking away many opportunities from the more agile characters/hero...
I cannot wait for your review to come out. I skipped this KS because it felt too ambitious with its multiple modes to play. It is difficult enough to playtest and develop a pure game in itself (especially of this size) but a first time creator with that much content and multiple modes, I doubted that this could work at all. I mean even full coop experts like Gremlin Project (Sword & Sorcery), who concentrate on pure coop, have to deal with Balance issues. So crossing fingers for you. ;)
I'm pretty sure that you and I value "balance" in different ways. I don't like balanced games. To me, balance often means boring; when things are balanced, there is often very little excitement because things are equal. I don't mind games that swing wildly from too hard to too easy. But I think you value balance more than I do.
@@TheDungeonDive I would argue that a balanced game does not have to lack excitement. I love swingyness because, as you have said, it causes moments of fear and joy. :) But: Balance has to be present there. The big boss battles in Galaxy Defenders are fun because of its ingenious balance and yet, they are exciting as they could be. Take Darklight on the other side. The balance is so off, that even the bit of theoretical excitement is killed after several games. Balance does not mean playing on rails. I would call Lost Tomb a balanced game overall and we both know how exciting it is. ;) But games where I have to houserule too much because of its balance I find annoying.
When it was on Kickstarter, I was just at the start of kickstarting and dungeon crawling as well. At that time I thought that I wasn't ready for such game. Looking at the amount of content in DU, not sure if I'm ready even now. :)
I'm very new to boardgaming, so there is much to know and learn. :) I have to admit, that at the moment I'm very dependent on the narrative the games lead you into because that my imagination, let's put it mildly, isn't so good. But yours and Geek Gamers channels is a trove of thoughts and ideas, so I'm broadening my view and learning about the ways how to make the adventure first in my head and enhance it in the game.
Cool video! A certain mix of fantasy and the Middle Ages is explained by the fact that Arasca is a hidden continent on our planet and these are immigrants)) And AI really makes understanding the game more difficult by 70 percent, but if you remove a couple of rules, playing with it becomes pretty fast, including generating enemy soldiers (this is convenient because of the numbers on the back of the stands).
Might’ve missed it but didn’t see a section on solo/co op rules. Hope you can do a solo play through, this seems to be a pretty decent dungeon crawler.
Without using the App. could you give us tips to avoid reading red parts , avoid to self-spoil and keep all the element of exploration?Thanks for your reviews...
Hi Daniel. So loving the videos - great job! I am considering getting the game that is now on KS. I wanted to ask - so, two years later, how do you feel about the game? do you get to play it?
I don't play it as often as I would like to because of its complexity and time commitment. It really is a lifestyle game, and right now I need to play too many different things to devote the time to it.
I think Skull Tales is spanish as well right? That one was a disaster ... Now after watching your video about DU Im more excited and looking forward to get my copy.
@@TheDungeonDive That I don't know ... I was afraid that DU would suffer from some of the same problems as ST - especially concerning the English translation - but because you liked what you've seen so far I'm more excited now.
So far I think the translation is OK. It's not bad, it could be better. However, even though it's not perfect, I haven't encountered anything yet where it is preventing me from understanding the game.
You mention that it was not designed as an Adversarial game...I disagree. The game was and is advertised as "one VS many". An in fact, the classic DP mode option is the non-adversarial mode you speak of. Those that have complaints about the game being unbalanced when playing "one VS many" as adversaries is justified.
Its been out of stock on the official site so the price jumped from 85 on KS to 120 on their shop to 300 on the secondary market now. I think ill pass. :)
Hello,
everybody! I'm Oscar Ibañez, a member of
Dungeon Universalis team. I would like to announce that, given the
success the game has achieved worldwide, we are going to launch a reprint
campaign on Kickstarter that will also include several expansions. We expect
this launch to take place shortly after the summer. Thank you all for your
interest and keep enjoying our game. We’ve put the best of us in it!
Any chance to be able to still get a copy?
High difficulty. Critical failures. Courage roles. Event and furniture decks. Balancing point system. AI good and varied. Random dungeon discovered as you go. Optional advanced rules. Quest designer. Huge amount of quests. One offs and campaigns. hundreds of enemies... Every time you flipped a page I got happier and happier. Man am I glad I've got this on the way!
Haha! Right on. Me, too!
The best of all the dungeon crawlers I have played so far, revision of the classic Adv.HQ or WQ systems, the most complete one without a doubt.
That sounds really promising!
These are the type of games I see myself playing in my 50s or retirement age. I'm 35 with two kids and there's no way I can get this to the table I fear. Still, I'm excited to see these games come to fruition. It's almost like window shopping for me on your channel. Great coverage as per usual. I need to get a copy of Horrified at somepoint.
Bought one of the last games in their shop on Sunday. I hope they will ship it someday 😔 thank you very much for the video. Please do a lot more to help me waiting 😉
I am interested in reading your review then. ;)
Looks amazing, Looking forward to your review / walk through!
So glad you’re doing this one! Hope you do some play through. Your insights and conversations are some of my favorite videos. I just received SCAM today (on your and Tom Chic’s recommendations), and DUN should be in tomorrow or next day.
Wow! Sounds like a ton of great games coming your way. I love Tom Chick. He’s my favorite. Thanks for watching. I plan on some more videos on DUN.
Thanks Daniel another nice job. I did back this for a $1 but didn’t convert this to a full pledge. If I remember it was the translation worry that was holding me back. But it looks like they have done a really professional job all round. Between this and Hunters 2114 I would say your fully booked for the rest of the year.
The translation issue was cause for concern. I don't think it's a perfect translation....there are some oddly phrased sentences and errors. However, so far it hasn't prevented me from understanding the game.
I’m so glad in today’s gaming climate where streamlining is generally favored that games like Dungeon Universalis and Dungeon Crusade still exist for us folks who love deep, and as you put it, crunchy games.
So true. And thank God, Crowdfunding exists. We would not see these games on regular retail channels. Take Dungeon Degenerates for another example. ;) Galaxy Defenders is another one. It failed on the retail market, God knows why, maybe because of its harsh difficulty (that is what the designer said).
I love these KS passion projects.
I almost backed this one, but I couldn't quite graps what it was. Looking forward to learning about it
Seems like quite a beast of a game. That much rules overhead usually brushes up against my "might as well just play a video game" limit, especially since the majority of my plays are solo. I don't mind modding and tweaking rules though, so I'm looking forward to hearing more about this one and seeing how it shakes out.
Same as Cador, got a order confirmation on Sunday, has been in processing since then. I hope the order is OK and I am inside the window.
I just bought my copy of this game on Monday (hasn't shipped yet) so pretty cool to see you do a vid on it (although I can't finish the vid until tomorrow). The game looks fantastic, so hopefully your review is favorable.
Damn you! I have to be aware of the next reprint campaign now.... ;)
Great (but intimidating!) look inside the books. I eagerly await my copy. My mind is already churning with ways to pare it down but fantastic amount of content with which to work.
Geek Gamers I think you’ll get a lot of use out of it. Even if just using some of the elements from the system for solo RPing.
The Dungeon Dive absolutely I had the same thought. Really looking forward to it.
Wow..i'm still waiting for my copy..
For me it is a huge Dungeon Tool Box, After reading the 100 Pages Manual und playing the First Game i came To this conclusion. This is a Big Treasure Chest for all Players and all designers. Thanks for the review
Erzähl mal, was es kann. :) Meine Hauptfrage: Ist es "nur" eine Toolbox oder ist es auch wirklich ein gutes, austariertes Spiel? Daniel deutet ja schon Balanceprobleme im OL-Modus an.
Die Nische In erster Linie weckt es bei mir Erinnerungen zu alten Fantasybüchern, ich finde sowas immer sehr charmant. Zum Spiel selber kann ich noch nicht soviel sagen, da hab ich einfach zu wenig bis jetzt von gesehen. Fühlt sich jetzt auf jedenfall schon besser als Descent an 😂
It reminds me of old fantasy Comics and bookcover, very charming for me personally.
After one Game it‘s Not easy To Talk about the Game. The first Game was Better than Descent 2, perhaps this could answer some questions.
@@saschaklein7423 Das konnte man nur hoffen. ;) Dann bin ich gespannt, wie deine Reise weiter geht. :)
Are you having fun with the game? I, too, see it as a giant tool box with all the things you need to play included.
Wow...an incredible amount of detail jammed into this game. Can't wait to see all the components!
We will see if The Ghosts Betwixted is the better game in the end. ;)
I think so! 🙂 Really looking forward to get TGB on the table!!!!
@@DieNische "Better" is a tough one because while both games are part of the same genre, they are vastly different. DU Pros - hundreds of hours of gameplay, it appears; an incredible amount of options and depth; a perhaps overwhelming number of monsters; a sandbox to create your own stories and adventures. TGB Pros - easy to learn; quick to set up; a story that is pre-written so players are experiencing that story rather than telling their own in this universe (some may enjoy that, others may wish they could create their own). TGB is not unlike Diablo, old school Final Fantasy or World of Warcraft, where the narrative and environments are avenues to give purpose to the combat. TGB is very much a combat-focused game, but does have strong elements of exploration, random events, and all that good stuff. I think that's one of the things I love most about dungeon crawlers is that there are so many different variations of the genre, all of which can be extremely fun and compelling if designed well. That's why there will never be a "dungeon crawler to end all dungeon crawlers," because there is always room for new variations.
@@HBBackstar Thanks so much...shouldn't be too much longer! Just wrapping up the final rulebook and continuing playtesting all the missions ad nauseam...then we should be able to hit the print button sometime this summer.
Dustin Freund Dustin, do not worry. Take your time to playtest. If I am asked which steps are most important in late development stage, I would say: 1. Playtesting, 2. Playtesting, 3. Playtesting, 4. Take your time for a final and clear rulebook and player aids! :P
Haven't got mine yet
Good video as always. At first I was complaining because of all the things you need to do in order to play. But now I've started to create my own set of rules for combat in order to keep it easy...and now I'm going to think how to manage ennemies/standees/attributes/wounds....cos having tokens around standees is not a fun/ergonomic solution I may do what Gloomhaven do....an envelope to put a scan of ennemy card(cos there're not printed, only in bestiaries), and something to follow Hit Points for each standee with the standee's number...and use it to put weapons tokens too...maybe it can work. The dark player AI is well done and easy to use, and it can be quite fun for the solo/coop even when you no the scenario.
What kind of things are you using / leaving out? Are you finding that the Dark AI player has the ability to surprise you with traps and stuff?
@@TheDungeonDive The Dark player in solo mode is a kind of event generator either Obstacle or Encounter depending on one character action(open door, chest, revealing new room) so yes it could surprise you and it is easy to do. The good things is that it consumes DP points from the reserve created at the beginning based on character values.
I won't go too much on partiel cover, heights, and I wont compare agility, I will follow a list like this one for ranged attack
Modifiers :
A/ From Target
+1 if in the back ( No shield use for target )
+2 if immobile target
+1 if Tall
+2 if Huge
-1 if flying
-1 if Small
-2 if more than half Weapon distance
B/ From attacker
-1 if shot after moving
-1 if all move capacity used
-2 if defensive shot
So I can quickly go trough this list and roll dices....and the same for Melee combat and Magic, I want to avoid looking too much in books or the Screen "Messy" Master and I want to look at ennemies plus and minus the fastest as possible...Cos If I have to spend 5 minutes knowing that at the end I have -1 modifier it will be boring
That all sounds really great!
@@Boardgamer69 It's your game, and you can play it any way you want but be careful, because you can break the balance it has. more.... By not comparing the agility in the draws you are taking away many opportunities from the more agile characters/hero...
I cannot wait for your review to come out. I skipped this KS because it felt too ambitious with its multiple modes to play. It is difficult enough to playtest and develop a pure game in itself (especially of this size) but a first time creator with that much content and multiple modes, I doubted that this could work at all. I mean even full coop experts like Gremlin Project (Sword & Sorcery), who concentrate on pure coop, have to deal with Balance issues. So crossing fingers for you. ;)
I'm pretty sure that you and I value "balance" in different ways. I don't like balanced games. To me, balance often means boring; when things are balanced, there is often very little excitement because things are equal. I don't mind games that swing wildly from too hard to too easy. But I think you value balance more than I do.
@@TheDungeonDive I would argue that a balanced game does not have to lack excitement. I love swingyness because, as you have said, it causes moments of fear and joy. :) But: Balance has to be present there. The big boss battles in Galaxy Defenders are fun because of its ingenious balance and yet, they are exciting as they could be. Take Darklight on the other side. The balance is so off, that even the bit of theoretical excitement is killed after several games.
Balance does not mean playing on rails. I would call Lost Tomb a balanced game overall and we both know how exciting it is. ;) But games where I have to houserule too much because of its balance I find annoying.
When it was on Kickstarter, I was just at the start of kickstarting and dungeon crawling as well. At that time I thought that I wasn't ready for such game. Looking at the amount of content in DU, not sure if I'm ready even now. :)
I've been playing these games for decades, and this is definitely the most robust DC I've seen. I won't be using all of the rules when I play.
I'm very new to boardgaming, so there is much to know and learn. :) I have to admit, that at the moment I'm very dependent on the narrative the games lead you into because that my imagination, let's put it mildly, isn't so good. But yours and Geek Gamers channels is a trove of thoughts and ideas, so I'm broadening my view and learning about the ways how to make the adventure first in my head and enhance it in the game.
Cool video! A certain mix of fantasy and the Middle Ages is explained by the fact that Arasca is a hidden continent on our planet and these are immigrants))
And AI really makes understanding the game more difficult by 70 percent, but if you remove a couple of rules, playing with it becomes pretty fast, including generating enemy soldiers (this is convenient because of the numbers on the back of the stands).
Oh that's cool! I still haven't fully read the back story, so thanks for that.
Might’ve missed it but didn’t see a section on solo/co op rules.
Hope you can do a solo play through, this seems to be a pretty decent dungeon crawler.
Warpaint can be 100% solo/co-op.
Without using the App. could you give us tips to avoid reading red parts , avoid to self-spoil and keep all the element of exploration?Thanks for your reviews...
I just use the app. Wouldn’t play solo / co-op without it.
@@TheDungeonDive Ok,Thanks!...
Hi! I would like to start playing dungeon crawl games, which one do you suggest me to star with? Greetings from Italy! Great channel!
Thank you. That’s a tough question. How much board gaming experience do you have?
@@TheDungeonDive equal to zero ahahah l just played some Lone Wolf gamebooks.
I would look into Mice & Mystics, or any of the Dungeons & Dragons Adventure Board Games.
@@TheDungeonDive ok thank you!
Hi Daniel. So loving the videos - great job!
I am considering getting the game that is now on KS. I wanted to ask - so, two years later, how do you feel about the game? do you get to play it?
I don't play it as often as I would like to because of its complexity and time commitment. It really is a lifestyle game, and right now I need to play too many different things to devote the time to it.
@@TheDungeonDive So for the average player that has no UA-cam channels it should be fine?:)
Totally. It will provide many, many months of gaming.
@@TheDungeonDive that’s it.. I went all in. I hope it’ll be worth it.
I think Skull Tales is spanish as well right? That one was a disaster ... Now after watching your video about DU Im more excited and looking forward to get my copy.
Right. forgot about that. Was Skull Tales manufactured in Spain?
@@TheDungeonDive That I don't know ... I was afraid that DU would suffer from some of the same problems as ST - especially concerning the English translation - but because you liked what you've seen so far I'm more excited now.
So far I think the translation is OK. It's not bad, it could be better. However, even though it's not perfect, I haven't encountered anything yet where it is preventing me from understanding the game.
Maybe now we can fix Skull Tales with DUN tules. Just thinking... 🤔
Rules*
Is your favourite game Skull Tales from Spain...?
Ah right. Forgot about that. Also, DUN is actually manufactured in Spain. I think Skull Tales was manufactured in China, no?
@@TheDungeonDive exactly
Is this soloable?
Yep. Fully co-op/solo.
You mention that it was not designed as an Adversarial game...I disagree. The game was and is advertised as "one VS many". An in fact, the classic DP mode option is the non-adversarial mode you speak of. Those that have complaints about the game being unbalanced when playing "one VS many" as adversaries is justified.
Oh dear, just brought dungeon alliance, outer rim and warhammer card game.....now I am aware of this, bank balance is doomed!!
Well they aren't releasing to retail so you would have to hold out hope they do a re-print campaign or pick it up 2nd party.
@@sethpeterson8261 Oh, thats bad news....oh well, cheers for info!
Stop showing me this stuff you’re hurting my wallet :-)
Its been out of stock on the official site so the price jumped from 85 on KS to 120 on their shop to 300 on the secondary market now. I think ill pass. :)
@@Infyra There will probably be a 2nd printing via KS. They're strongly considering it.
Looks too complex for it's own good. Especially if one is going solo.
It’s on the complex side, but that’s just the kind of game it is.
@@TheDungeonDive lately I've been playing DUNGEON SOLITAIRE and BAG OF DUNGEON.
Jen Rose Bag of Dungeon is a lot of fun!