Psychedelics Are Now Legal in Australia-With a Catch
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Australia is a nation known for its conservative attitude towards drugs. So the approval of psychedelics for use in psychotherapy in 2023 came as a shock. Maybe more shocking was who got it done - an opera singer and her former investment banker husband, who kicked up no shortage of controversy along the way.
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how to have a voice in Australia, be obscenely rich..
I was thinking just that
That is a universal trait.
while that is usually true the people in this video are not even close to 'obscenely rich' and were essentially lobbying against status quo the pharma industry has created if anything they were fighting the obscenely rich.
How to have a voice in Australia, be obscenely rich.
How to have a voice in Australia pt 2, cost your opposition more than the problem you are trying to fix or just be generally annoying
How to have a voice in Australia pt 3, don't get assassinated.
And to be an AstroTurf operative for a cause that will move towards providing a tool for the government to harm both dissidents and the vulnerable ill in the planned extension of mental health framed incarnation.
@@billylion3073 Peter hunt is extremely rich, he was a very successful investment banker and lawyer who sold his company to America for over 500M+
That Stephen Bright is so short sighted. The reason people die from MDMA is because contamination or dehydration. Both things that would be solved if the compound was decriminalized and regulated, advocating to keep it criminalized only ensures more and more people will die trying to experience this treatment.
has no clue
Seconded, as well as his points about regulations on medicines. Like pharma companies haven't done the same in rushing products to market.
Yes of course you are right, this human rights violation will get fixed. Let's make it happen, we all want the same, happiness and no suffering, psychedelics help, so substances will win anyway ❤❤❤
Yep, also that the war on drugs has made it harder to access the key ingredients to make the product, so instead an inferior and more dangerous product is often produced which aims elicits a similar effect.
Most ppl who are hurt by MDMA actually overdose on water by consuming too much, im not sure if that translates to deaths also though. As far as contamination I don't think it's fair to even call that dying from MDMA. Realty is all traditional psychdelics are safer than alcohol and cigerettes though so these arguments about harm are so ridiculous.
There is a serious problem with this media outlook and info being put out by this video and also misleading title. MDMA keeps being repeated in tandem with the research and use of Psilocybin which is incorrect. theyre 2 completely different drugs and also used for 2 completely different mental health related things so shouldnt they be reported as such, individually? and not combined into 1 video? People are gunna get confused. For example: mentioning people dying off of the use of MDMA in festivals and then talking about psilocybin research at 4:00 this is improper reporting and shows lack of knowledge; in context with this comment: there has not been a single known reported death from psilocybin mushroom use. There is no clear differentiation between the 2 by the journalist which is my issue.
Yep, you hit the nail on the head there. Lazy & confusing reporting as seems so prevalent nowadays.
@@susanlisson7066did someone say Bloomberg?😮😂😅
@@shanessinging absolutely agree. It's farcical.
So wot your saying is we just take the poison that big farmer gives us. Man had been taking this stuff for years, must have damaged me Couse I can only come up with ideas to solve problems no one else can
Yes, they don’t have their information peer reviewed.
i been illegally microdoseing for my mental health. saved my life! better than anti depressants etc. depression, brain fog, anxiety, my bipolar.. its gonna save alot of people.
I miss my microdoses so much. I did 1/10 LSD every 3 days for about 9 months and it was amazing for stabilising my mood and invigorated a sense of wonder and energy to get things done and try new things. Still trying to get my hands on some more without getting busted for importing what might be seen as "distribution amounts" of around 20 units.
When the government bans vapes but not cigarettes and allows alcohol while banning dope and LSD - two of the least conflict inducing recreational drugs I can think of, you really get the impression that they don't actually care about our health as much as they claim that's the reason for the ban in the first place.
Brain reset I call it
How
@@natextreme_ wot U mean how .
Grow in ya back yard
allegedly not illegally
"sometimes MDMA makes people worse and we don't know why" which is exactly the same as traditional antidepressants. Not everything works for everyone.
Exactly, antipsychotics are the same, doctors don't know who will respond to certain antipsychotics or if they will make the person worse, it's Russian roulette until you find the right one
Need therapy at the same time of taking MDMA
Let adults have autonomy over their bodies and decisions. Educate and put guardrails to mitigate abuse. Why is this so controversial? Gov is like some overbearing parent. In this case the science has been clear for a long time
The Nanny State.
They want to control the poisons they want you to put in your system because of the kick backs they get from big pharma, corruption and over governing at its best... the fact you can gamble as must as you like while, drinking and smoking, all legal just reinforces this.
Because profit and control
The problem in Australia is that we have the most spineless politicians on the planet. "We don't have enough information " they say about a medicine, humans have been using since we came down from the trees. Pathetic.
"We don't have enough information " that didn't stop them bringing in & forcing the "vaccine" on everyone, now look at all the people having blood clots etc. I know 2 people personally.
Agree on the fact its western modern country...should know better.I think they using same tactic (as in other countries ) confusing ppl with contradicting info and some of them is pure lies
I bet most of the government lads are users anyway
And then say that the COVID "vaccine" has enough evidence to bombard the country with.
Medication being old doesn't mean we have a lot of information on it. Bad argument.
I love how they ignore thousands of years of tradition, methods and manner of predominantly safe use in some cultures in a self-righteous panic about slow-to-catch-on institutionalised Western medicine.
Alcohol is legal and look at the harm it does.
We're also ignoring thousands of years worth of capital punishment & human sacrifices. Logical fallacies are fallacious.
@@christofthedead hbu try making a relevant point, trying to run a faulty analogy is a great logical fallacy on your part.
I think psychedelics are gonna save the world. This world we've created is driving us all crazy.
Or save us from trying to save everything else and learn to celebrate our short journey 😊
Read brave new world
@LOLxUnique I've been meaning to, but I don't think my mental health can take it.
Not just the psychedelic types that are immensely interesting, many types of fungi are being found (and re found) to have huge medical benefits for all kinds of serious diseases. Have a look at the work of Paul Stamets, it's absolutely mind blowing.
@@LOLxUnique Soma is more like cannabis or opiates. A numbing agent. Psychedelics are transformative and therapeutic.
Shrooms changed my life for the better. I was just recreationally trying to "trip" in the forest with some friends. I had no idea what would happen. It was/is the best experience of my life, full stop! I did em when i was 18 or 19 yrs old and till this day the wisdom, compassion, love, insight, presence, and patience I came to know then still guides me in my thoughts and actions with myself and with others. From what i understand it wasn't as grand and sweeping for my friends. But i think there's something to be said about the fact that forests/woods nature has always been my happy place. And unlike my friends, I came to the experience with no forced expectations just a curious and open mind.
Have you ever , taken 5grams dried, in the dark and quiet? Preferably in your own home where it’s safe .. if not .. I recommend.. very different experience
😂😂😂
@@samsin34
as Terrence Mackenna once said,
"That's pedal to the metal"
And I agree, friggen amazing experience 🍄
@@jessanna4138 😁that’s it . Personally , I’ve done 5 grams dried, about 7 times , and plan on doing it again soon, just working myself up to it , since it is quite the journey , scary, weird , beautiful , strange and so many other things I cant describe in words , mind you the species I pick out here in Australia , are Psilcoybe Subeaerginosa and they are extremely potent
@@samsin34 ego ending amounts are great once you are experienced and prepared for it. When you can't see anything or really move except for in your mind, you need to know what you are doing.
People are like “MUSHROOMS ARE DRUGS NOT MEDICINE”, the proceed to take cephalosporin antibiotics, among hundreds of other medications made from mushrooms.
I just classify it as substances ❤
Isn't medicine "drugs"?
@@agentsmidt3209a lot of people seem to have this cognitive dissonance to be able to understand "drugs" and "medicine" are the exact same thing. A doctor giving you oxys doesn't suddenly mean you're not taking strong opioids
Stop it with your logic.
drugs are drugs not drugs
The guy around 4 minutes is being foolish, misinformed or disingenuous.
Of course, when people take it in unsupervised situations, not knowing what they're doing and not being mindful, these things can be dangerous or even lethal.. People should drink plenty when they use xtc/mdma, no other drugs, and there should be an experienced (and ideally sober) friend present to keep an eye out.
Many people know this, but not everyone. Including apparently that guy.
We don't know how it works? We don't know how alcohol and caffeine work either, not _really_ .
We should be mindful and careful about this, the medicine is powerful. But that guy is talking out of his donkey.
His argument regarding unknown risks no longer holds any water.
I'll take my chances with a random mushroom from the forest sooner than a booster.
most people think its "the thing" and thats ok.
But once you realize that its just another experience and you haven't actually evovled at all, well. Now you are somewhere.
You must be forced to take an untested, totally radical, new gene therapy for a cold virus - which is safe and effective no matter how many people die or are maimed. But we must ban drugs that are proven to CURE depression and suicidality for the small percentage of people who CHOOSE to take them because a few idiot teens overdosed on recreational cocktails that contained similar compounds.
we don't know Tylenol Paracetamol works either.
MDMA has been known for some time that it can cure treatment resistant PTSD in one single session. The mental health benefits of psilocybin mushrooms are also very well documented.. it's high time the rest of the world caught up to Australia, Portugal, and the work of MAPS to name but a few of the pioneers in the field.
"single session" is a bit of an exaggeration but yes MDMA is beneficial for treatment of PTSD.
"High time" - I see what you did there
Canada has literally had legal psychedelic assisted therapy with mdma, psilocybin, ketamine and etc. for years :'( Why does no one appreciate that we were the actual first lol
@@destructorzz7197 Yeah it's not a single session but it is true there is a visible significant improvement even after one session
@@jaytbo5676 because you speak French haha
most pharmaceutical medicines have worse risks and side effects than natural drugs/ medicines. so im all for this. its about time every country did this. adults have the right to make adult decisions.
Knowing what we know now about vaccines and lockdowns, the fact this woman was against lockdowns and vaccines from the start actually speaks volumes for her wisdom and foresight
Yep!
Bruh, vaccines led to mass immunity and that's what led to the fading away of Covid. Otherwise, it would have killed a few 100s of millions more before it faded away.
I'm not sure if the lockdowns helped, but the vaccines saved a few hundred million.
Yes critical thinker
Agreed ❤
I took 12g of dried shrooms because of munchies once. It did for me what 5 years of therapy with 3 threapists couldnt.
12??!! 😳🤯
Talk about manipulation through narrative. Do your research people. The history is long and well documented, both for and against psychedelic medicine. Lots and lots of research. This documentary is a snippet of the info available.
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@@ervinacadenamayonga lucky you 😊
Its a landmark ruling. Im glad someone is finally coming in to show this. It was quietly approved earlier than 2023. Its not actually prescribable or "useable" its a "we wont dismiss this research". But there is still a war on drugs, mental health and violence in australia. We have much bigger problems, its not that we care. Its that it slipped through our cracks. I desperately need this treatment. But our heads are buried in the sand and im considered a "potential threat" and we're arguing about the potential risks while I end up dying homeless on the street because i can't afford rent, to work while disabled, or to have a dog because dogs cant pay rent. But its all I have left... Thanks to predjudice and consistant denial of facts from of our australian government.
Australian here..
I haven't watched the whole video and not sure if it's included...
But the cost of the psilocybin therapy to a patient here would be around $10,000 aud per session I believe.
Hopefully this is just a preliminary cost whilst trials are being undertaken etc..
Jesus Christ! Capitalism at every step of the way
There are in Netherlands retreats for max 1900€, cheaper would be possible to ❤
@DanielAusMV-op9mi Yeh, at this stage its cheaper to fly to Peru, stay at a luxury ayahuasca retreat centre for 14 days, then have enough money leftover to have a nice vacation on the way home.
This is incorrect. It is not costing me a cent and begin my treatment in October!
It doesn’t cost me a cent either.when the shrooms start popping out of the ground therapy begins
This is a lie.
Being able to get a prescription from your doctor for something isn't the same as being legal.
If I start growing and selling mushrooms I will go to jail.
If I'm driving down the street and get pulled over and I'm found with a kilo of LSD I will go to jail.
If I have a mental deficiency and I go to the doctor, do a myriad of tests and attend appointments for months I might be able to have session with a "professional" drug administrator.
I dunno what legal means to you, but that's not legal.
You get it
And it would cost an arm and and leg to get that session too
That just means you need it with a prescription. Doesn't mean it's illegal. It's not just black and white. It's "legal, with a prescription" or "illegal, without a prescription". You have to describe exactly what you mean.
@@PartyhatRS it's not even a simple prescription. you gotta do it under the supervision of the psychiatrist... do you know how much sessions cost? and you won't be approved to take psilocybin on the first session with a psychiatrist... how about people do their own research, take their own care, grow their own medicine and minister it how they believe...
Yep. This is a SCAM. Those two elites are pushing so only their synthetic branded and patented product is legal to use. Yes, they are LIARS. CHARLATAN.
Australian govt could greatly improve my mental health and my finances if they would just legalize recreational Marijuana and allow us to grow our own... but they care not for their Citizens only their profits...
They have legalised medical. Just google medical cannabis, there's heaps of places. 1 phone call and 1-2 days later you get a delivery. Prices are similar to black market.
Edit: doesn't solve the grow your own issues to save money though.
You draw an interesting contrast between their approach to Marijuana and potent psychedelics. The difference is that LSD / Psilocybin etc are useful weapons in psychologically breaking dissidents.
@@georginawhitby1320😂
Word
You can grow in Canberra
Baseless accusation that they influenced the delegate.
If something is heavily regulated and obscenely expensive then it is not 'legal'. It might be an adjustment of pre-existing legislation but it's still legislation. It's still the government deciding the degree to which an individual may have access to, a relationship with and experience of the natural world. It is still a group of people deciding under what circumstances an individual may have this experience, and surprise, surprise! - it's within a clinical setting, with someone who doesn't really care about them, with large sums of money involved! Well, what better way to achieve an understanding of one's own integral part in the tapestry of the universe that facilitates the healing of psychological trauma than within the confines of a heavily regulated capitalist infrastructure? And so the tyranny continues.
LSD and DMT must be legalized
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs.
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
all drugs! *except antibiotics*
Do you understand the profound difference between the implications and risks of them being decriminalised Vs legalized? Why specifically do you want them legalised instead of only decriminalised for personal use?
Do you understand the profound risk involved in giving psychiatrists the ability to prescribe these substances to involuntarily commited patients? Do you know the horrendous history of this already in Victoria? Are you aware of the plans to massively expand mental health incarnation, and involuntarily commitment in Victoria? Do you really think psychiatrists and by extension the state should have these available as a weapon ?
I'm from the Netherlands and it's a shame that Australia is ahead of us in this respect! Shrooms are amazing.
MDMA therapy saved my life! I originally tried mushrooms and didn’t like them but had three mdma sessions which transformed me and ceased my suicidal thoughts. I do believe psychedelics are truly a medicine given to us by nature.
what worries me is the potential that this was put through, so they could demonstrate it failing. even if that means being untruthful. its hard not to be skeptical of modern medicine and FDA/ TGA. they would rather us pay out the nose for their pharmaceutical medicines laden with risk that to use anything safe/ cheap/ readily available and natural.
I have been practising psychedelic therapy for years. One session is not enough. Without discipline and integration work it is futile. The pain that aggression of hyper masculine culture has created is not easily healed. Mother Nature is hurting and the whole society is constantly being retraumatised by ruling overlords. If ever psychedelics make us more awake and even more depressed, because we can see how broken the system is. It’s a never ending process of healing.
People are still serving time for cultivation of mushrooms for medicinal research. It’s not even decriminalised. Don’t believe the hype.
Legal psychedelics in some cities, even in the US, like Denver. But Australia is the first Country (not city) to do it. Governments want money, and there is tax revenue in legalizing drugs. Doctors will become profiteers, prescribing to anyone that pays them - it happens in the US now.
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs.
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
I have ptsd and the period I took them when I was at art college recreationally freed me of depression and anxiety and for once in my life I was happy and sociable, so definitely truth in this, I’m currently a UK medical cannabis patient because all chemical pharmaceutical drugs from the nhs have failed me
Why is naturally occuring plants undergoing so much scrutiny while synthetic drugs which can cause mutation are completely fine to intake?
The source of the chemicals has no relation to its impact on humans. Just ask yourself which you'd choose to eat between a spoon of synthetic MSG or an all natural cane toad.
because it is unknown how the psychedelics work
Because it's harder to patent and make money from "natural" plants and fungi unless you are isolating one particular part of the whole.
@@waltuh6984except that it's isn't unknown, there is quite a strong body of literature out there
@@higate_col
There is an enormous difference between banning the sale of novel synthetic chemicals - and banning access to naturally occurring products.
Especially when those natural products have been in use for thousands of years, and have well established history of safety and cultural importance.
11 grand ? My mate daveo will fix you up for 30 bux
These politicians and whoever else are finally catching up to what many people have known for decades. Psych mushroom/MDMA are powerful healers. Very low risk in comparison to alcohol and other substances. You don't even need to go on them as a regular drug. You just eat a bunch of mushrooms, bond with the universe, have a cry, and come out with a wider acceptance for your situation, what you've been through, etc.
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs….
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
You left out the part about the war veterans contributing to the push to reschedule them as a treatment for PTSD as so many veterans sadly suffer from it...
What does she mean "Australia leading the way" in psychedelics? 'Murica was onto it ages ago... Netflix's "How to change your mind" covered that thoroughly.
that feeling of connection can lead to temporary or in the worst case permanent psychosis, detachment from reality. which can lead people to what most perceive as schizophrenia. there is always a risk. while psychedelics have changed my life for the better, they have also caused me personally to make some poor decisions because I just "understood" things.
People get worse off meds proscribed by their GP. So, it's not a valid argument
Stephen Bright clearly isn't that bright.
Bright enough to make a bit of money off his credentials and contribute to a scare campaign it seems. Which still isn’t that bright.
Meanwhile: Psychedelics Are Now Legal in Australia 😅😅
Ah everyone else saying mushrooms have benefits are junkies but as soon as a banker says there’s benefits the government listened…. Pathetic.
The best set and setting for MDMA is a dance floor, as close as possible to the speakers and your favorite dj. 😊
Hmmm, there was something else they skipped steps of scrutiny and forced into everyones arms. Why no outrage at that by the main stream on that issue?
A human doesn't understand just how much they don't understand until they have their first psychedelic experience.
Yes my life has been part 1 before d.m.t and part 2 after d.m.t
In Australia in recent times , a drug can almost simultaneously be made legal and effectively made compulsory. Considering that our government in Victoria has a plan for a massive expansion of mental health incarceration, and a history of involvement with experimentation on vulnerable people, we need to guard against psychedelics being used on people who are too vulnerable to refuse them.
They won't allow anything that could bring new understanding of ourselves and the place we occupy in time let alone World Peace.😞😓🙃
The US ran similar trials and decided not to proceed.
AUS does the same trials and decides to move ahead with it.
How does this happen? Would love more insight into why different medical bodies are coming to different conclusions.
The blue eyes from the spice in the movie Dune were inspired by the blue from psilocybin mushrooms.
Institutionally trained clinicians couldn't uphold medical ethics or their own fundamental human rights during the covid policy era involving psychological operations intended to pervert and censor scientific and duty of care discourse (which is ongoing). Now some might be responsible for helping people go deeper into death, rebirth, and post-traumatic growth or integration into healthy relationality than they themselves have dared to go?
Yea like what happens if spirit comes in, are they gunna have sage ready, before and after. Someone has a full blown awakening will they know what to do/say?
Totally agree. They have no business facilitating these experiences on a purely scientific model. They do need to have an assistant who has had significant experience with these molecules and understands the liminal spaces accessed to guide in such cases where deep trauma is amplified or full blown awakenings occur. An empathetic or compassionate psychiatrist is not sufficient to avert a spiritual awakening becoming a spiritual crisis.
You've noticed who will be given the power to prescribe these , and that they aren't necessarily all trustworthy. In fact this very odd legal change effectively enables psychiatrists to weaponize very powerful substances , right at a time when our state has taken a totalitarian turn, and when they have made plans for massive expansion of mental health incarceration and involuntary commitment. Remember the recent pattern of substances becoming compulsory in certain contexts as soon as they were allowed ( not even approved )?
The AstroTurf designed to launder this very odd law change is nonsensical. People using these substances in traditional ways don't need reclassification or legalisation of the substances they just need decriminalisation .
The changes beyond decriminalisation ( legalisation and reclassification) are mostly an enormous gift of power to psychiatrists , and effectively , by extension, to the state .
What's the catch? Title says there's a catch but you didnt point one out...
Legal or not it didn’t stop me from foraging today. I found at least 500g whilst looking in the rain. Was beautiful
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?....
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
jeepers. given how woke australia has become. how left. how authoritarian their lockdowns were. i definitely didnt expect them to be the first country to utilize the benefits of shrooms. i have never used them myself. but i have heard they have had enormous success with clinical studies in the US for soldiers suffering ptsd (alongside guidance and therapy).
I live in Australia and it is neither Woke nor left? Most Australians are conservatives.
Just because a tiny vocal minority influence the media doesnt say anything about the majority of people in Australia.
@@dhammaboy1203 my bad. i guess i meant the people in charge.
They had to reschedule psychedelics to get anywhere. It’s been impossible to do any tests or trials for decades because of the legality and general perception of psychedelics until now. Let’s just see how it goes
Well, if it's TGA approved I would stay well away from it 🤣
people don't get worst....people get better...well done and thank you to Mind Medicine...
I prefer to listen to Paul Stamets, he has a wealth of knowledge regarding this very subject, with a tremendous compassion for people and life on this planet.
Lol the land down under about to get even funkier. Should visit some time.
They're also antimask? That's a positive
This is such a terrible hit pace that is completely uninformed. The USA FDA led the way in this and Australia following the scientific research simply beat the US for something that they are scheduling to do very soon also. It is highly controlled in Australia and only psychiatrists who have specifically been trained in using psychedelic therapy which are only a handful in the entire country have been legalized to give this therapy.
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?....
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
Great PR piece for mind medicine Australia
4:26 also it’s conditional if you have a natural tolerance, how far down the rabbit hole you need/want to go, how/big or small you and the potential abyss of your psyche are…. did you take any other drugs or were your mushrooms a blend? Regulation or controlled environments separates the tribes from the professional pharmaceutical industry. Corporate calls it Quality Assurance/Insurance purposes.
1:00 Australia is conservative?? Wha? Take a look at African and Asian regimes (Taliban, North Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabi and many many more)
Congratulations!
1:02 "...Australia is traditionally seen as quite a conservative country"....Oh my! Looks like the psychedelics are indeed taking effect!
Hahaha exactly! Were closer to communism than conservatism these days
And who was right about covid? The problem with use of the mdma in Australia. From the study done with MDMA. The patients were given one large dose and after 6 months the patients still didn't show any signs if their depression coming back. What been prescribed is micro doses, on long term bases. Cashing in medication.
Psychedelics aren't illegal because a loving government is concerned you'll jump out a window. Psychedelics are illegal because they open you up to the possibility that everything you know is wrong. - Terence McKenna
Technically the first countries to allow it were all of them,
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?…
Medical degeneracy?
Beautiful people who can make a massive change like albert hoffman and terrence mckenna.
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs….
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?….
I use to trip on mushies nearly every weekend back in the 70's and 80's , unlike getting smashed on alcohol i remember every trip and what we did
Meet this mycologist where I get my psychedelics from including shrooms, dmt, lsd and more
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Pharmshrooms001
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On instagram!!!!
So they tried a legal trip n then things changed , what was so legal about they’re trip than any trip any one else has ever taken, they weren’t harrassed by the law while they were tripping n they noticed positive results?
A safe secure environment with trustworthy supervision is the most important thing 😊
I don't know how you're saying that the only people caught off guard were mind medicine themselves; I recall CPD point courses being offered for psychedelic use in psychotherapy a couple years ago.
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
Definitely biased article but great that it's legal now
I Absolutely love my country!
Australia a conservative country??
Yeah I’m in Australia and they are charging $20,000.00 for this kind of treatment so it’s not accessible to the people who really need it
It’s only helpful for the rich people 😤😩
where did you hear? Because one of my clients told me his neighbour is prescribed and he definitely can't afford that - ofc I can't verify his neighbour is though.
@@dannii_LIt's part of a therapy 'package', so it's not $20k per dose, but with the additional mandatory specialists & therapists, the out of pocket expenses per patient for 6 to 9 months of MDMA assisted therapy ranges from $24k to $35k.
Mind Medicine Australia has organised a partnership with a Canadian medicine supplier and the cost of the medicines is minimal. The cost of the therapists makes up the bulk of the cost and may be covered by health insurance and other support for those in need. MMA also has a Patient Support Fund and 100% of donations into that help support those who cannot afford the upfront costs.
@@dannii_L I heard it on the news and online a site of an practice that offers it
Well, I've used psychedelics and they have real healing potential.they changed my view of a lot of things for the better I think they could be very effective in treating persistent depression. I used them a lot over 20 or more years
How do I get it??
I remember days my anxiety flew over the fence, weighed my options and there i found this dude who got the best strains of psilocybin and other psychs…
(They're on Telegrams & Instagrams?..
@PHILLSMYCO2, is the handle?.
I order mine from Charlesmyco effective and affordable.
He's on instagram.
Japan had no lock downs or vaccine mandates and guess what no increase deaths at all ! We are misinformed in Australia all the time! I will definitely seek this treatment for my ptsd .
They didn’t need to, have you seen the Japanese public? They were wearing masks when they had a cold decades and decades before Covid was ever a thing.
They didn’t have a mandate or lock down because their population actually listened and stayed home and everyone got the vaccine of their own accord. Like they have one of the highest rates of Covid vaccination in a country that historically was on the fence about vaccines. You absolutely have no idea what you’re talking about. Japanese culture is very very different from the West.
I hope people use it wisely. It can really change lives🧘🏼♀️ Anyone saying this is a drug, must realise we already use drugs to treat people. Except some of these drugs get prescribed for decades. My mother has been on antianxiety medication for 20 plus years
We are All love our drugs in Australia
🚩FACT🚩
Most conservative, fanatic religious people r actually reside in the USA 🇺🇸 🤷♀️
I personally find it just a bit funny that AU considers its self a "conservative" country, considering it's past.... just saying.
ALSO
When will they get with the times and do something about their ridiculous cannabis laws?
Why legalize mushrooms and not LSD? It is better, safer, and lasts longer.
LSD is included now and theres LSD trials recruiting in Australia as we speak.
From a legal standpoint Australia are followers, but from a medical standpoint, we don’t rely on other countries for our research. Medicine here is truly more progressive than politics
The people of Australia (aside from the 1950s) have never really been conservative - those in power gave the impression, however, because it suited their end goal. The people, the individuals, on the other hand 💅
This means NOTHING….Look, people are going to have their drugs if they want them. Legal or not.
Do you not buy your drugs even they are illegal?
No artificial or plant drugs can solve a problem permanently. It will have blissful temporary effects correct, but it will be temporary. And will delay us reaching the actual resolution…
That's an Amanita not a psilocybe
Terence Mckenna's vision is FINALLY being realised. 🍄
People dont realise the power of these plants and the spirit world. Some powerful energies .
Anything that could possibly lead to a greater public degeneracy will be considered, explored and encouraged. We have become such a victim Society
I don't know if these people know about Switzerland?
It's been legal there to do therapy with psychedelics for people with ptsd and depression for the last few years.
And maybe not with MDMA but LSD, shrooms and truffels i know are legal there now.
To Treat Brain 🧠 Disorders.
I don't wanna take magic mushrooms let alone lsd in someone's office 💀
LSD hasn't been approved
Imagine cannabis still illeagel recreantionally and there trying to legalise mdma and shrooms 😂 so fking backwards its not even funny.
People die at festivals because they mix drugs and go too hard/don’t drink water/have a heart attack/don’t know what they are taking.
Most people who have taken MDMA etc know that it does great things for their mental state.
I am past that time now, but know that if I could find these substances now it would help remove the creeping negativity of age.
I tried to join a Monash study for psilocybin, wasnt accepted.
Lets not pretend psychedelics aren't extremely dangerous to the mental wellbeing of many people. During my time at uni i saw many people take lasting psychological from psychedelic abuse.