When The Frame costs several hundred dollars more out the gate (sometimes almost twice as much depending on size and sale pricing) plus ANOTHER 200 dollars for a bezel, plus a monthly subscription for artwork on top of that, I think it’s worth being more forgiving on the decrease in picture quality the CanvasTV has. If you want the antiglare coating and framed look and don’t care about anything else it’s hard to justify the Samsung now. Will you guys be doing a comparison with the TCL NxtFrame tv as well?
Samsung Frame routinely has promos with the bezel included and you choose your colour. It is almost always on sale as well. Review didn’t mention the capabilities of the sensor. The Frame has colour balance correction so the pictures look natural. Also you can thousands of pictures on Etsy for like $10 that are already formatted. And Samsung gives 10 pictures a month for free and changes every month. This is a lifestyle product that is not based mostly around picture quality but quality features. I don’t think they went deep enough and I’m disliking their definitive statements at the ends of reviews. It never used to be like that before.
@@SuperMyaccThe problem with Hisense is that there's a lot more inconsistency with their panels. You might get one that needs little to no calibration or you might get one that's way off. They're still making really good stuff for not a lot of money
I bought a 43 inch 2022 frame to hang vertically in a room to use only as a rotating poster frame, and something that is a serious issue is that while the motion detection to turn on and off the tv after the room it is in has been empty for a while works great, when i put on the bezel, it severely limited its ability to detect motion and turn itself on and off accordingly. I think its a super neat TV that works perfectly for my unique purposes but one of the selling points was the screen being able to turn on and off and the fact that the bezel ruins that is extremely disappointing. Just wanted to share in case anyone else was curious.
Should’ve waited until the TCL frame to have a video of the 3 🤔 i hope it’s better then even these 2. But time to watch the video that was just my initial impression
You can make your own in Canva and just upload it to Frame, or buy wallpapers from Etsy. Having a separate One Connect box is the difference, if you’re like me where you have 2 consoles, an Apple TV and soundbar connected, connecting it from a box means you don’t have to unmount the TV just to add remove an hdmi source. Having it at the back like the canvas means the hole you’d have to punch through the wall for the cable pass through will be on the right. Samsung has it dead center and it helps centering the TV. Small details like these makes the Samsung win by thoughtful design.
The One Box is the opposite of thoughtful design. It makes trying to mount the TV in a non-obvious spot (you know, the whole reason to buy one of these) means it’s impossible. It no longer looks like a inconspicuous picture frame if you have to put it over an entertainment system to hide your one box.
@@doomsephirothvery satisfied to be honest. I was worried that the peak brightness might suffer in terms of HDR but for a slightly darker room it's more than sufficient, actually quite bright that I turned the brightness down. For the rest, not a big fan of Rozen but I can live with it.
I love my Canvas tv. I got it because my tv is over the fire place due to the layout of my new place. Made my own art - if my dogs 😂. Also the anti glare works perfectly where the tv is placed- which gets a lot of light. Also, the ambient/ motion sensor is a nice feature and the auto dimming puts the art at the perfect contrast/ brightness. Don’t know if they activated some settings because their review is not accurate based on my experience.
Sorry but this review is missing a lot of things… what about hanging on the wall, what about portait mode (vertical) for the Hisense? I mean can you hang the tv vertically and does the picture rotate? What about all the passpartout at Hisense? Can you show the pictures without? Would be nice if you can answer the simple questions which are I think for a lot of people, who are buying a tv like this for having art at home, more important than just the technical specifications
Im thinking on hiding the one connect box of the frame behind the TV itself inside the wal, but I am a bit conerned if the heat from the box will properly dissipate Whats your experience on this _
finally a very useful review packed with tests and even updates on lthe longevity! thank you! If the colors are off so much, can you calibrate it with any of the regular color probes like x-rite? I'm assuming it would be simple when the tv is connected to the PC, but it has to be color accurate as a standalone TV when it's displaying artwork
I see so many people asking for a TCL nxtFrame review I found your channel from another video where people were asking about TCL products. I was hoping this video reviewed the nxtframe as well most of the videos on the channel don't review these products or are years old sadly.
Hello Abby. TCL also has a frame type TV too. Ha ha ha ROKU has a new app called Backdrops which turns your TV into artwork when the TV is off. This TV artwork thing is catching on.😊❤❤
I'm definitely waiting for the 2025 model.. Samsung will fix most of their customers concerns, thanks to more affordable options from Hisense and TCL. This is why competition is needed .. its keep companies like Sammy in check and on their toes, plus it drives down prices while giving us more features. (aka Bang for Buck!). The customers win in the end.
@cd2ogz1 I bought 2024 model. It's nice. But seeing Sammy Launching Q1XD Neo QLED entry variant, I believe Sammy will launch Neo QLED Frame. But I also guess that it won't be launched in India. Let's see. But new budget NEO QLEDs is the next Sammy thing
So did i hear that right the Hisense does not need a box similar to the Samsung?? What does the the AC\DC converter look like on the hisense? is it huge?
I like the idea of the frame or canvas a lot, but I just hope that they make the TV’s more competitive with more modern specs and performance with local dimming. I means Samsungs new anti glare coating on the S95 could work great. But marking up a mediocre display for those who want to display art is a bummer.
I bought the 2024 The Frame and I was pretty disappointed by the poor contrast and surprisingly bad clouding. My 6 year old QNF model has much better contrast and virtually no clouding. And the subscription, come on…
How come Art mode when the TVs were “off” wasn’t tested? That’s the whole point of these TVs. Frame has white balance correction and motion detection built into the sensor. That dramatically changes the experience when the TV is “off”. No portrait mode support on the Hisense? Those are pretty big brushed over features for this type of product. Samsung also routinely includes the bezel with promos so if you’re talking about price it’s probably worth mentioning that as well, especially if a big talking point in the whole comparison is about how the bezel is not included and your reasoning to recommend the Hisense is just price alone. Samsung 65 Frame in Canada was $1899 last week. Only $200 CAD more than Hisense Canvas at the same time. 2022 65 Frame can be found on clearance for $1499 CAD as well. I would say don’t speak on price as deciding factor unless you’re willing to talk about sale and promo pricing.
i did a quick research and found hisense one was on sale last month for CAD 1500(including wooden frame and wallpapers), it is still a considerable price difference if you just compare the sale prices. So I would say the verdict is still unchanged.
Well, those artwork is curated by museum, or artists. I have one and the artwork that are mostly in the subscription isn’t typically what you’ll see available in a Google search for free download. That said I just go to Etsy and buy my wallpaper, $1-3 each, or I make one in Canva.
What is preventing manufacturers from pre-calibrating their TVs properly? And barring that why don't we have a quick and easy system to automatically calibrate TVs ourselves? With the level of tech we have nowadays this should be solved problem. A cottage industry of expensive TV calibatring "pros" just feels akin to a the dealership system we are forced to use when buying cars.
Probably the fact that they collectively produce hundreds of millions of units ever year... Also, Samsung, sony & LG tv's do come with their own versions of room-adjusted calibration.
I wouldn’t either until I got one. Then my brother took it and I bought an LG C3 Oled Tv. But I miss the Samsung Frame, and thinking of buying one again 😅
Arrogant people don't want to be perceived as living with leisure time spent watching TV like common folk. So they want aTV that hides when other arrogant company comes over to visit.
The breakout box for the Frame is great, but the Samsung Tizen TV interface is shite, and shoves their “recommended” options in your face. It’s hard to actually watch what you want to watch, and not at all customizable. I don’t know what interface this Hisense is, but both Google and Roku are way better. I regret buying the Frame.
Samsung sells an auto-rotating wall mount that can rotate the Frame TV to portrait, be careful on the size, the one size smaller is needed for say the 55".
Samsung considers this model their personal goldmine! Sheesh! Burns out quickly, $50 annual subscription, costs 50% more for a very very basic TV for art snobs ...
Are not full array LED , are just another crystal model with matte or semi matte display and magnetic frames to decorate it and cost a fortune for the only fact that are to a segment of market that care more about the design than the characteristics of a TV
I'd buy one to go behind a floor rising projector screen if they were better. Primarily to be a digital picture frame but doubling up for viewing anything I don't want to be big such as news, TV debates, music videos, etc. But yeah that's a pretty niche use case. I'd imagine it's primarily the crowd that barely watch movies and TV shows and think a TV belongs above a fireplace.
1. The Hisense looks more like an art work than the Samsung. 2. Why buy The frame without a frame, then pay extra for the frame of the frame. 3. Paying for pictures of paintings on a tv designed to show paintings. I think the Hisense is spot-on this time, it's better to get an OLED TV alongside the frame of the frame. it'd look better. ❤
You sound like a hisense rep. The frame tv is miles better and is like a picture frame and has better performance than the hisense and Samsung has been doing it for years and there is always a promos on Samsung bezel and frame tv so no hisense is still shittee..
Bahahah Samsungs low quality in so many areas and dumb products being eaten alive by the Chinese market. Most of the time I’d recommend a Hisense or a TCL over a Samsung. But it’s been that way for years. Then better quality is LG, Sony, Panasonic.
Nah, just people that understand the value of money. The Samsung is just too expensive for what it is, and the subscription is predatory. For me I wouldn't buy either, OLED for life.
@@houssamalucad753 The subscription is not predatory, it's optional. If you want to get the sub then you're free to, if you don't you're free to download any picture you want and put it as a background.
When The Frame costs several hundred dollars more out the gate (sometimes almost twice as much depending on size and sale pricing) plus ANOTHER 200 dollars for a bezel, plus a monthly subscription for artwork on top of that, I think it’s worth being more forgiving on the decrease in picture quality the CanvasTV has. If you want the antiglare coating and framed look and don’t care about anything else it’s hard to justify the Samsung now.
Will you guys be doing a comparison with the TCL NxtFrame tv as well?
If Canvas was more calibrated then okay this would be valid reasoning, but being so off in color negates the whole purpose of displaying art
Samsung Frame routinely has promos with the bezel included and you choose your colour. It is almost always on sale as well.
Review didn’t mention the capabilities of the sensor. The Frame has colour balance correction so the pictures look natural.
Also you can thousands of pictures on Etsy for like $10 that are already formatted. And Samsung gives 10 pictures a month for free and changes every month.
This is a lifestyle product that is not based mostly around picture quality but quality features.
I don’t think they went deep enough and I’m disliking their definitive statements at the ends of reviews. It never used to be like that before.
@@SuperMyaccThe problem with Hisense is that there's a lot more inconsistency with their panels. You might get one that needs little to no calibration or you might get one that's way off. They're still making really good stuff for not a lot of money
I bought a 43 inch 2022 frame to hang vertically in a room to use only as a rotating poster frame, and something that is a serious issue is that while the motion detection to turn on and off the tv after the room it is in has been empty for a while works great, when i put on the bezel, it severely limited its ability to detect motion and turn itself on and off accordingly. I think its a super neat TV that works perfectly for my unique purposes but one of the selling points was the screen being able to turn on and off and the fact that the bezel ruins that is extremely disappointing. Just wanted to share in case anyone else was curious.
Can you drill a pinhole in the bezel?
Maybe a mini mirror placed at the correct angle might help detect motion
Should’ve waited until the TCL frame to have a video of the 3 🤔 i hope it’s better then even these 2.
But time to watch the video that was just my initial impression
You can make your own in Canva and just upload it to Frame, or buy wallpapers from Etsy.
Having a separate One Connect box is the difference, if you’re like me where you have 2 consoles, an Apple TV and soundbar connected, connecting it from a box means you don’t have to unmount the TV just to add remove an hdmi source. Having it at the back like the canvas means the hole you’d have to punch through the wall for the cable pass through will be on the right. Samsung has it dead center and it helps centering the TV. Small details like these makes the Samsung win by thoughtful design.
The One Box is the opposite of thoughtful design. It makes trying to mount the TV in a non-obvious spot (you know, the whole reason to buy one of these) means it’s impossible. It no longer looks like a inconspicuous picture frame if you have to put it over an entertainment system to hide your one box.
Very curious of a TCL NxtFrame review!
And nxtframe pro
Review is already out, not looking too good! Went ahead and bought The Frame 2024
@@vladiescCan you give an update on how The Frame works out for you?
@@doomsephirothvery satisfied to be honest. I was worried that the peak brightness might suffer in terms of HDR but for a slightly darker room it's more than sufficient, actually quite bright that I turned the brightness down. For the rest, not a big fan of Rozen but I can live with it.
@@mikamulperi Pricey, but tempting the wait...do you know when its coming out?
Fnally, a great review. Would love to see the new TCL nxtframe and the Samsung compete.
I love my Canvas tv. I got it because my tv is over the fire place due to the layout of my new place. Made my own art - if my dogs 😂. Also the anti glare works perfectly where the tv is placed- which gets a lot of light. Also, the ambient/ motion sensor is a nice feature and the auto dimming puts the art at the perfect contrast/ brightness. Don’t know if they activated some settings because their review is not accurate based on my experience.
are you going to do one comparing the tcl nxtframe tv?
Sorry but this review is missing a lot of things… what about hanging on the wall, what about portait mode (vertical) for the Hisense? I mean can you hang the tv vertically and does the picture rotate? What about all the passpartout at Hisense? Can you show the pictures without?
Would be nice if you can answer the simple questions which are I think for a lot of people, who are buying a tv like this for having art at home, more important than just the technical specifications
Just bought the 65” canvas for 799 on amazon. Hard to beat that
Just got mine amazon hand delivered and unpacked yesterday! Great deal!!
@@_Tracy_B How does it look at night? Is it dim enough to sleep in art mode?
Huh.... you talked me out of buying either one. Thank you for this video. Excellent review!!
Would you be doing the Panasonic w95a review?
Hi Team, what about the TCL NXT Frame?
Im thinking on hiding the one connect box of the frame behind the TV itself inside the wal, but I am a bit conerned if the heat from the box will properly dissipate Whats your experience on this _
finally a very useful review packed with tests and even updates on lthe longevity! thank you! If the colors are off so much, can you calibrate it with any of the regular color probes like x-rite? I'm assuming it would be simple when the tv is connected to the PC, but it has to be color accurate as a standalone TV when it's displaying artwork
Incredible review, thanks team!
I see so many people asking for a TCL nxtFrame review I found your channel from another video where people were asking about TCL products. I was hoping this video reviewed the nxtframe as well most of the videos on the channel don't review these products or are years old sadly.
Was going buy the 65 inch frame , but not to sure if I’m intrigued enough … I think I like the crystal clear look of a tv .. not what these provide
Amazing comparison! 👏
Hello Abby. TCL also has a frame type TV too. Ha ha ha ROKU has a new app called Backdrops which turns your TV into artwork when the TV is off. This TV artwork thing is catching on.😊❤❤
We have a Roku in our playroom. I never knew about the backdrops app. Thank you for this info!
Wanted to find a cheaper alternative to the frame tv but chinese one doesn't seem to be an option still considering the usecase of mine.
Can you please do a review of bedroom tvs/ dark room tvs? We don’t need bits of 2000 to do the job.
Wondering when you guys are going to review the LG Qned 90T/90?
yes they are, i you are a premium member on the site you can see what is coming up and even vote for TVs they should review in the future
Pls pls someone help
Should I wait for the 2025 version or should I buy a 2024 frame? I'm spending 💰 big, cuz Im buying a 65"
Pls suggest
I'm definitely waiting for the 2025 model.. Samsung will fix most of their customers concerns, thanks to more affordable options from Hisense and TCL. This is why competition is needed .. its keep companies like Sammy in check and on their toes, plus it drives down prices while giving us more features. (aka Bang for Buck!).
The customers win in the end.
@cd2ogz1 I bought 2024 model. It's nice. But seeing Sammy Launching Q1XD Neo QLED entry variant, I believe Sammy will launch Neo QLED Frame. But I also guess that it won't be launched in India. Let's see.
But new budget NEO QLEDs is the next Sammy thing
Wait, this is the first I'm hearing about another channel dedicated to your long term review
Silly me, I'm already subbed to it. I just get all the videos and didn't realize they were different channels haha
So did i hear that right the Hisense does not need a box similar to the Samsung?? What does the the AC\DC converter look like on the hisense? is it huge?
Correct. Built in. Huge advantage for Hisense and tcl frame tv
I like the idea of the frame or canvas a lot, but I just hope that they make the TV’s more competitive with more modern specs and performance with local dimming.
I means Samsungs new anti glare coating on the S95 could work great. But marking up a mediocre display for those who want to display art is a bummer.
I bought the 2024 The Frame and I was pretty disappointed by the poor contrast and surprisingly bad clouding. My 6 year old QNF model has much better contrast and virtually no clouding. And the subscription, come on…
How do they compare to the tcl nxtframe ?
Is there a reason why all of these frame TV's are edge lit?
How come Art mode when the TVs were “off” wasn’t tested? That’s the whole point of these TVs.
Frame has white balance correction and motion detection built into the sensor. That dramatically changes the experience when the TV is “off”.
No portrait mode support on the Hisense?
Those are pretty big brushed over features for this type of product.
Samsung also routinely includes the bezel with promos so if you’re talking about price it’s probably worth mentioning that as well, especially if a big talking point in the whole comparison is about how the bezel is not included and your reasoning to recommend the Hisense is just price alone.
Samsung 65 Frame in Canada was $1899 last week. Only $200 CAD more than Hisense Canvas at the same time. 2022 65 Frame can be found on clearance for $1499 CAD as well.
I would say don’t speak on price as deciding factor unless you’re willing to talk about sale and promo pricing.
i did a quick research and found hisense one was on sale last month for CAD 1500(including wooden frame and wallpapers), it is still a considerable price difference if you just compare the sale prices. So I would say the verdict is still unchanged.
First!-Is that still a thing?
We'll allow it 😄
Samsung charging for wallpapers lol. They do the same with their phones.
Dafuq? Thats crazy
MKBHD wants to know your location
@@androiduberalles Nice northern lights pfp
Well, those artwork is curated by museum, or artists. I have one and the artwork that are mostly in the subscription isn’t typically what you’ll see available in a Google search for free download.
That said I just go to Etsy and buy my wallpaper, $1-3 each, or I make one in Canva.
If you can’t tell the difference between art and wallpaper … you’re lucky.
You should be happy with a cheapie
Thank you
there is a new popular mini led monitor, xiaomi g pro 27i. can you test it?
are you sure hisense has 300 free content? I see only 120 artworks (USA)
2:06 and people thought MKBHD was crazy
How come you people won't review the LG qned91t??? Is that bad???? Why???
What is preventing manufacturers from pre-calibrating their TVs properly?
And barring that why don't we have a quick and easy system to automatically calibrate TVs ourselves?
With the level of tech we have nowadays this should be solved problem. A cottage industry of expensive TV calibatring "pros" just feels akin to a the dealership system we are forced to use when buying cars.
Probably the fact that they collectively produce hundreds of millions of units ever year...
Also, Samsung, sony & LG tv's do come with their own versions of room-adjusted calibration.
still the frame better overall
can you review samsung due800 series 😅
The whole "try to make a TV look like a painting" idea is one I never would have imagined people would go for. Wild.
I wouldn’t either until I got one. Then my brother took it and I bought an LG C3 Oled Tv. But I miss the Samsung Frame, and thinking of buying one again 😅
@@precursors HI. Did you notice a big difference between LG's C3 Oled and the frame?
Arrogant people don't want to be perceived as living with leisure time spent watching TV like common folk. So they want aTV that hides when other arrogant company comes over to visit.
funny how suddenly manufacturers remembered how to order matte panels
Can we please instead talk about the elephant in the room which is software??? I have the Frame and software is so buggy the TV is almost unusable
Abby, you do a good job
Bring back Daniel!!!!
The breakout box for the Frame is great, but the Samsung Tizen TV interface is shite, and shoves their “recommended” options in your face. It’s hard to actually watch what you want to watch, and not at all customizable. I don’t know what interface this Hisense is, but both Google and Roku are way better. I regret buying the Frame.
Google tv does exactly the same infact Google is recommending take away and car advertising on it. I don’t know what you’re on about
It’s not Teak, It’s Oak.
Oh Samsung, Samsung. What the hell aré they doing?
Another art TV without portrait mode support, smh
How would you use it as a TV in portrait mode?!?? Or do you mean having it in portrait and then rotate when it's time to watch it as a display?
@@Kuranghi I mean using it for art
Samsung sells an auto-rotating wall mount that can rotate the Frame TV to portrait, be careful on the size, the one size smaller is needed for say the 55".
Samsung considers this model their personal goldmine! Sheesh! Burns out quickly, $50 annual subscription, costs 50% more for a very very basic TV for art snobs ...
I have to applaud Samsung for finding a way to sell these garbage tvs at a premium, and find a way to make it a subscription. Great business work.
Are not full array LED , are just another crystal model with matte or semi matte display and magnetic frames to decorate it and cost a fortune for the only fact that are to a segment of market that care more about the design than the characteristics of a TV
Why isnt the frame of the tvs more old brown
Any G‘s gaming on The Frame?😂
abby ❤
bruh, natural is better than dubb.
Lol.. who is buying these frame TVs 😂
At a guess, the people who put them above the fireplace 🤦♂️
I'd buy one to go behind a floor rising projector screen if they were better. Primarily to be a digital picture frame but doubling up for viewing anything I don't want to be big such as news, TV debates, music videos, etc. But yeah that's a pretty niche use case. I'd imagine it's primarily the crowd that barely watch movies and TV shows and think a TV belongs above a fireplace.
1. The Hisense looks more like an art work than the Samsung.
2. Why buy The frame without a frame, then pay extra for the frame of the frame.
3. Paying for pictures of paintings on a tv designed to show paintings.
I think the Hisense is spot-on this time, it's better to get an OLED TV alongside the frame of the frame. it'd look better.
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You sound like a hisense rep. The frame tv is miles better and is like a picture frame and has better performance than the hisense and Samsung has been doing it for years and there is always a promos on Samsung bezel and frame tv so no hisense is still shittee..
🥛🥵
Bahahah Samsungs low quality in so many areas and dumb products being eaten alive by the Chinese market. Most of the time I’d recommend a Hisense or a TCL over a Samsung. But it’s been that way for years. Then better quality is LG, Sony, Panasonic.
So, samsung is like apple, a little bit better but same thing just more expensive and incomplete.
A little bit better in every catagory makes it a lot better.
Yeah copying everything that apple does and to the consumers don't like
Hisense shills bro
Let's see how things play out in the long run. I see Hisense quality getting better in 5 years but then their pricing will be there with Samsung too
Nah, just people that understand the value of money. The Samsung is just too expensive for what it is, and the subscription is predatory.
For me I wouldn't buy either, OLED for life.
@@houssamalucad753 The subscription is not predatory, it's optional. If you want to get the sub then you're free to, if you don't you're free to download any picture you want and put it as a background.