Classical vs. Flamenco guitar: A tonal comparison of two guitars
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- A viewer suggested I do this awhile back, so here it is! I'm playing the same music on both of my guitars so you can compare them. I used the same mic array and positioning for both, and I also have the same brand of strings on each. The microphones used are rode NT-1A. The classical is a David Schramm and the Flamenco guitar is by Bruce Wood. Enjoy!
Samples include Tarrega - Lagrima, a solea compas, a buleria falseta bit by Juan Serrano, a Handel piece that uses a capo, and of course Villa-Lobos Prelude 1.
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For my ears, flamenco sounds alive!
They are the same,but flamenco guitar has that angry kind of more spanish undertones,maybe it's the wood I don't know,but i would definitely buy flamenco one.
Flamenco does not sound right on the classical but I see no reason classical pieces cannot be enjoyed on the flamenco guitar. Both great sounding guitars. This is helpful since I've been going over this in my brain.
Thank you. That has answered my question and helped me make a decision.
Thanks for watching!
Dr Antf 's video seems to over-emphasize the difference in loudness of flamenco vs classical. In this video the flamenco guitar is not much louder but that may be the way the guitars were played. The classical guitar definitely sounds more mellow in this demo.
David, I really like the sound of your Flamenco guitar. Very well done!
Bruce makes a great guitar, and is a great person to know as well :)
Classical= Mellow sound, suited more on single note play.
Flamenco= Vibrant sound, suited more on strumming, tapping and fast single note play.
Thank you for making this video. I needed this to help decide.... Yet after watching this I still like both and I'm still undecided 😂
Soundwise I'll take classical you have more nuances. Flamenco guitar is more one dimensional sound. I love Flamenco music and have seen the Great PacoDeLucia once.
So if I have to choose it's Classical guitar. But I don't like to choose so I want both ;).
I have Yamaha APX6 NA so it is like hybrid nylon string.
Question what is neck shape these guitars U-shape or D-shape ? I have custom made electric guitar which has D-shape I like it. My Yamaha has thin C-shape and it is bad for Barre chords for me. Hand get tired very quickly.
When u pick a tone on the flamenco guitar, the tone sounds longer than with a classical one ,doesn't it ? That would be why the legato technique (flamenco) is way easier on a flamenco guitar, or am I wrong ?
I read a good comment somewhere: "The Classical guitar puts you to sleep. The Flamenco guitar wakes you up".
Thar's good, I like that!
Nice reason, agreed with you.😁
Am I wrong, flamenco has lower action, more buzz, less sustain and slightly less bass?
You are correct.
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I think...flamenco gives a bit aggressive louder for dancing sound..while classic one softly give a tender tone. Someone told me that in the past flamenco is cheaper, I'm not sure.
Both Guitars use Nylon Strings. Alot of musicians who are on a budget would play Flamenco Music on a Classical Guitar by slapping on a set of Flamenco Strings, which often use Black Nylon Trebles.
Flamingo strings are a marketing meme.
They're no different in materials, even they color the strings sometimes. The biggest tone difference is in the guitar itself, the action, and how you play it. Most flamenco players I've met just play "classical" strings.
@@DVSPress Right, it's a Nylon string Guitar all the same.
Great video ... I get goosebumps when you play the flamenco ...
Thanks for sharing this information, the guy at guitar center told me there is no difference. Beautiful playing 😊
Because there really is no difference. Flamenco guitars are just classical guitars focused on certain traits while classical guitars really differ and depend on the taste or music you want to play. For flamenco you just aim for brighter sound and less "overtone pollution" than for most classical/contemporary music. I actually prefer the sound of flamenco on a deeper sounding guitar with more overtones, adds a whole another layer but it's a matter of taste really - I used to play with a guy who loved the brighter, flatter sounding classical guitars for classical music! Fun fact: we were literally like ice and fire, I used to really be into darkness, melancholy and dissonants in music (I still often like this kind of music, I'm also playing with microtones atm - a whole new world) while he preferred quick "runs" and classic harmony! :P
David Stewart There 2 different types of Nylon Acoustic Guitars.
Hi guys i need help . Recently i bought Amalio Burguet FDV Spruce Flamenco
which cost me around 1200$ and when i compared it to my Manuel Rodriguez C12 Classical Cedar Pau Ferro
which cost me 380$. I got disapointed, i found that my C12 has louder and deeper sound than my FDV Spruce Flamenco. am i missing something here? isn't it Flamenco supposed to be louder and deeper?
Hi, David Stewart! 🙂
I hope that you answer to me after 7 years of posting this useful video! 😉
I've got so many instrumental guitar songs. (New Age, Pop, Folk, ...) 🎶🎵
But I can't recognize the guitar type of some songs! 🤔
There are guitar songs that I don't know if their lead guitar is Classical guitar, Flamenco guitar or Steel String guitar! ☹️😔
Because the sound of guitar in those songs is more different than regular guitars I listen to in UA-cam. 🙁
What can I do? 🤔
Is there any other place than social media platforms that I could ask & post my question with music sample files? 🤔
Thanks.
Very good comparison and clean recording of both instruments.
Thank you, That was exactly what I was looking for.
I wonder if a flamenco guitar would be easier for a beginner because of the lower action?
It isn't hard to begin playing on Spanish guitar, regardless of the action or string tension, compared to a steel-string guitar.
for me the classical sound is unbeatable. less vibration and more of a deep sound. nice playing btw
+paliccolo Thanks for watching!
at least u shouldnt compare two different Woods.. spruce and cedar tops always Sound very different... doesnt matter if classical or flamenca
Is the scale length of both guitars the same? I use a classical and a flamenco guitar for playing flamenco. the action is set the same on both and I use the same strings on them,BUT, the classical model has 5mm longer scale length which leads to a bit higher string tension and greater volume. I find myself preferring the classical, even for flamenco, but it does have action under 3mm.
The scale length of my guitars is identical, as is the string spacing, tension, and brand of string.
The flamenco is like more a live and like punchier than the classical i like both but everyone of them is used for a different purpose and music
Is there anything sort of in the middle?
I'm looking to buy a flamenco guitar because I like the low action a lot and I do need the golpeador as I use golpe often
I do like the tone that a classical offers though
Blackreapxr go for "Cordoba F7 Paco" its a flamenco guitar built with classical guitar tone woods \m/
Well, the 'better' tone on a classical guitar has a lot to do with the action. The higher the action, het better the tone. In your case I would go for a quality student flamenca negra (samen woods as a classical).
@@genustinca5565 I have never heard that higher action yields a better tone. From my experience, I have a feeling you are right though. Can you tell me more about it? Does a Flamenca negra generally have a higher action than a blanca?
Higher action definitely yields a better tone. For sure. Professional concert guitarists often increase the string hight of their guitar when playing very grand concerts (so the bring it up even higher than the standard action concert guitar set up!). It gives an even deeper and more projected tone, but makes it more difficult to play of course. I also notice it in my own guitars. My concert guitar has a higher action and sounds fuller and carries further than my flamenca negra. However, flamenco guitars also have slightly narrower body, so this may also be an influence. I have never owned a blanca but from what I have seen they have the same action as negras.
@@vascolub1 Thanks for the insight. A problem with high action though, is intonation. On my classical guitar the G-string causes an intonation problem if I take a standard Am, for instance. I am practising a piece right now, where I have decided to always play the Am as a 5th fret barchord due to the poorly sounding G-string. This would probably not be necessary, if the action had been lower.
Besides intonation, the G-string seems to be the weakest point of a Classical guitar. I heard an interview with a luthier who said that it is difficult to get a good and clear tine from the G-string.
would have been nice to hear some bulerias on the classical for fun
That's exactly the info I was looking for.
Hey David, where are u from? Because david schramm was my guitar teacher. He taught beginning guitar, and also makes guitars..
I myself own a 2001 blanca by Bruce Wood. It's so sad he no longer makes them.
can anyone help me i just picked up handmade guitar from los osos ca. its name biancardi r3r thinking it means redwood top and it has a cherry back neck and sides picked it up with a hard shell cas for 395 unreal for a handmade solid wood im just trying to figure out if its classical or flamenco it says classic inside so thats gotta mean its a classical or maybe it means classic flamenco idk lol i just love it and would love to learn more about the luthier but even hrs of searching hasnt gotten me one step closer all i know is date name and serial and wood types im gonna habe to try to find someome who still builds guitars in or mear los osos and maybe they would know if this biancardi luthier is still alive or what time period he built i have # 110 thanks to anyone who might help live the content and hard work keep it up
which is the most different from a steel string acoustic??
They are both very different. If you plan on using a pick, get a top guard.
Well, the flamenco definitely has more snappy treble to it...
The thing is you can play classical pieces on a quality Flamenco (negra) and it will still sound very good. But when you play flamenco pieces on a classical guitar it lacks a certain sharpness. Probably due to the lower action on a flamenco guitar.
Generally, it is easier to darken your tone than brighten it up. If I had to pick only one it would be a negra simply for that reason.
Classical sounds tighter maybe more compressed and the flam sounds looser. I like the classical sound more.
Thanks for listening!
Which one you think is the best to play just rumba?
Flamenco
Thanks. I'm gonna try it. I bought 2 classical G but I'm not happy with the result and it's frustrating. I have no choice any way to go with a flamenco G because as soon as I finish with the rumba I'm going to start the flamenco. Thanks again
Pls do you have a suggestion of a nice flamenco guitar that I could buy
Cordoba and Yamaha both have good options in the cheap to mid price tier. I suggest looking at those brands first.
Thanks David
Nice video , i want to buy a flamenco guitar and i wondered if you can play another genres on the flamenco guitar ?
yes.
@@DVSPress Thank you for answering.
love the shirt you are wearing
+1997RJK Does it have your name on the back? :)
+David Stewart I believe so :)
+David Stewart I believe so :)
video starts at 1:53
flamenco guitar has more sustain?
Flamenco!!
Spanish guitar is classical and flamenco, simply the construction of the Spanish guitar to play flamenco is different, the Spanish guitar to play classical and the Spanish guitar to play flamenco.
You can express more feelings using a flamenco guitar and play effortlessly at the same time
Flamenco
Flamenco>Classical. Always.
Do I need long nails to be able to play nylon guitars?. I see everyone does.
There's a guy on youtube who plays without nails, and there were guitarists throughout history that did it, but the technique is quite different. Virtually all Classical guitarists today use nails. Nails offer a wider range of tonal options and really excellent control of attack. I have several videos on them if you care to look, on how to grow and shape the nails and easily generate a wide variety of tones on the guitar.
David Stewart thanks David!!! Going to check out your videos!!! Great playing!!!
I had the same question. Found lots of guitarists that dont use nails, and Ive even seen some semi-permanent ways to add a false nail on top of yours that are clear. Im trying to get into classical guitar and my significant other is worried ill grow out gnarly looking nails...lol
My nails are quite pretty. I'm quite committed to what I do on the guitar, but I never made my beginning students grow nails to pass the class because of hangups like you mention. You can just tell your SO you'll be an expert back scratcher!
Lol, hey that might be a good selling point..
I know how to play both and classical is better but when used in folk songs flamenco is better :)
Classic guitar best
spanish or classical guitar is for sleep
and flamenco guitar is for wake up
Spanish guitar is classical and flamenco, simply the construction of the Spanish guitar to play flamenco is different, the Spanish guitar to play classical and the Spanish guitar to play flamenco.