Very thorough review, maybe your best! At 80 lbs sub section and the need for a dolly, with the Maui, I prefer to go with my 18" RCF sub at 100 lbs over 12" tops. Evox 12 is the heaviest I would go in a column array. Maybe a G28 vs Evox 12 video next?
Justin, thanks you for your Comaparsion, very helpful for picking wich speaker is the best choice. I've rocking J8 for 7 Years very well, but anytime some Wedding locations are very big, theirs is the time for the 12. in my opinion I don’t need Bluetooth and some other Stuff, a great Speaker for my Events, that's it .
Nice detailed review. On the one hand, it seems like the Maui on paper and perhaps live would outperform the EVOX12 (I've also had some owners of both confirmed this). On the other hand, the EVOX12 is a lot more mobile and adjustable. I chose the EVOX12 because of the mobility, comparatively lightweight sub box, and overall great sound. I think it's to closest to being the swiss army knife for mobile dis. The Maui's are great but at 80lbs, I personally would find it a challenge to bring em out to my gigs. I also think looks are subjective. In white, my EVOX 12 next to an Evolve 50 would hold it's own. Thanks again Justin.
I bought RCF J8 for the same reason over EV/JBL/etc. Being able to get the tops up high is important, the pole mount makes it easy. Also, with the covers I bought (Lecover brand, with custom sewn pocket), everything is in one carrying case, pole and cable included.
I agree. I returned my 44s because they were just too big. Honestly, I found it easier to bring my QSC KW181s out. k12 Tops, maybe not so much. But if you are looking for portability, and you don't have a roll in trailer, ramp, or similar the 44s were just too bulky in my opinion. Damn they were nice though. Hate to see them go!
@@raggaroaringsound I was lucky to hear the same thing. Was looking for something smaller than my KW181 / K12 and the 44's are not that much smaller the RCF 12 is!
Can you finally do a comparison between 3 evenly matched systems these 2 here plus the CURV TS 500 which like the Evox have a standard pole set up which i prefer.
You called the evox cable a "powercon." Powercon is a power cable. "Speakon" is the audio cable equivelent, which is what it uses to connect the top with the sub.
@@TheDJsGuru Hi friend, I would like to ask you for advice. I would need a system to do both live and disco evenings for a maximum of 200/300 people, in your opinion two db ES1203 systems would be fine, thanks
Same here.....sold my Evox 12's....and now i have all the horse power that I need in db 1203.I dont know what is whole hype with evox 12.Not worth any more...it is out dated. Sorry for bad Eng.
...you want to go next level on the ES1203, remove the original subwoofers with the weak AF 2.5in voicecoils in the reflex enclosure and swap in some Made In Italy RCF Transducers with 4in voicecoils instead. You will never look back as an ES1203 system owner. I bought (2) of the ES1203's when they first came out, modded them after the 1st gig after blowing 1 of the original woofers, and they are now the most versatile (single system can still be used in stereo where the Maui/EVO/Evox/Bose can't), most robust, best sounding, best tuning with the DSP onboard, portable column arrays. I have tried them all. For the rare case where I think I might need some enhanced bottom end, I'll add a single RCF 905... The upgraded ES1203's are such workhorses now, I seldom have to roll out my IG4Ts and 8003's...
Never a dumb question. Most listings say “System” we get it. At current MAP of 2899 that’s one top and one bottom w pole and powercon cable - we have in stock at www.DJsupplystore.com and would love to earn your business
I looked listen to all (3). Initially I wanted the Es1203 because of its flexibility; unfortunately it has the least amount of bass below 50hz. I ended up going with the G2’s which had the best low bass of the three, but sacrifices the adjustable height. My business partner has the Evox12 and they great too.
@@jonathanberube5056 the maui g2 cost a LOT of money and it's hard to carry... ES1203 is way more compact... Way cheaper... Consider db technologies ig2t and a 15" sub if you want more output
@@jonathanberube5056 the maui is 48 kg and it's mono... The 1203 unit is 29 kg and it's a 3 channel amplifier, you can split the top as far as you want... In a 300 people wedding do you think to use 1 speaker?
@@lucabertolaso2167 For 300 people I’m using my RCF Nxl24a over 8004 system. I wouldn’t use any column array combined system for more than 200 people unless the room was abnormally small. The Maui sub has a caster board and rolls right into my trailer. I feel like last year when I bought the 44s they were around the same price as the es1203.
I'll take my 2 Bose L1 Pro 32's and 2 sub 2's over these heavy monsters. Sound amazing and with 180 degrees of sound, it takes the cake for weddings and corporate events.
I owned two Bose L1 pro32 with sub2 and they SUCK, no mid, just high mid and low from equivalent 15”. They are prone to cause feedback when a live mic is near by, no feedback rejection. The first generation Bose L1 are better in quality and craftsmanship. They wobble more then a 1 year old walking. You can buy my for cheap.
@@TheDJsGuru I've been watching UA-cam videos on home theater systems from receivers to seperates ( pre amp and amp) to speakers bookshelves and towers and yet to get a direct answer when I ask them to recommend a specific type of speaker, receiver or amplifier. I'm also into music as well and have been looking at the LD 44 and RCF as well and this video give me what choice I would make Thanks much
Absolutely love my Evox 12's.. The wheels on the back of the subs are convenient AF and I love that I can raise the Line Array Speaker to increase the throw or turn it to appropriate positions during an event.. For anyone considering the Evox 12's, I would recommend running them through a Mixer with EQ so you can increase that low end during dancing. I use a Yamaha 10 Channel mixer, during dinner I keep the low end down because no one really gives an F.. plus a Planner, Guest or Venue Management will most likely ask you to turn it down anyways. Once the party starts, just crank up that low end on your mixer and let your crowd enjoy the ride :)
@@rolandjabbour9102 Maybe this won’t - the right answer is. How can you expect us to answer that question when every single room is different and it will sound different every time? ❤
@@TheDJsGuru this has nothing todo with room size . Do the speakers sound different when you are sitting infront of them Vs when you are standing? This will be the same if you are outdoors with no walls or ceiling
What about how deep they throw sound? Looking to upgrade....I have the EV 50s but can never use them in a larger room because they throw wide (120) but never deep enough. Found this out the hard way at an event where I hand to run and grab a couple QSC K12s because the EVs dropped off half way to the dance floor.
A lot of the issue is likely due to the low height of the EVs. EV 50s aren't high enough to throw over the heads of the crowd...it's the biggest reason why I got RCF J8 instead. You might try to put your EVs on a riser to get them up higher to see if that helps. From specs, EV 50M are approx 80" high, EVOX12 is 87", Maui 44 is 89", J8 is 90". RCF has the possibility of using taller pole mounts as well. Nothing absorbs sound like people...LOL.
The RCF evox 12 It’s actually called a speakon connection not a powercon connection the speakon cable that goes from the sub to the top transfers the sound to the top line array not power the top is a passive top it doesn’t need power to it just sound
I tried both since these are the same company the rcf is way more of a work horse I found the 1203 run out of gas before the evox I just couldn’t get them louder especially out doors
No, a cord is not better than a connected system. From the get go we can see you're partial to the rcf system by the way the rcf is pushed to the front so it looks twice as large. On aesthetics only the LD is 100X better looking. A mobile DJ or musician should always buy the travel bags made for the system. The features of the LD outweigh the rcf by a lot. The sound quality of the LD systems are phenomenal, they give you a sound like an audiophile speaker.
@@TheDJsGuru Bro, I lost my butt returning those 44s paying shipping both ways and a 15% restocking fee. Had to buy the bags and rolling carts separately and paid shipping both ways on those as well. Pretty much lost $2k. I was hoping to purchase the RCF TT515 and 808 set if you had tested it and sold it open box. That way I would have at least made up a little of my losses. But without the review, comparison, and or discount I am not buying anything now.
@@TheDJsGuru I was willing to buy a set. But simply cannot drop that kind of $$ without testing them. Or at least seeing some reviews from people I can trust.
@@jasonparker1454 They subs were too big and heavy. If I didn't already own a pair of QSC kW181s I would have kept them. But honestly, the 44s didn't make my load in any easier, and it wasn't that much better than my evolve 50 setup. May be a little. My evolve 50s are good for small to medium events. Anything larger I go with the QSC KW181s and k12s? Considering the rcftt515s to replace the k12s but not sure.
Whilst these are great speakers i'd never use a column speaker that could easily be pushed over by your typical drunk dude who doesn't know the difference between a wall and a speaker , i'd be much more confident in a traditional pole setup , they look fine i'm not fussed that the column looks a bit better cosmetically, also a sub that's over 36 kg i may as well just buy a separate top and sub, i can also get a few different model subs that also able to do cardioid mode when using 2.
@@TheDJsGuru Sorry disagree i've been in this situation a fair few times and you never know when that dude is going to appear it can catch you off guard he may have been that guy who looked respectable earlier in the evening but once the music comes on hot & strong he's usually the one who is the loudest and most annoying & that could get others into that mode also, and no in my experience no dude has ever knocked over my Presonus Air18s with pole mounted ULT 10's by leaning on the tops, he may flip the top around but that's about it, the problem is the way the array is mounted in the LD.
I own the RCF 12's not for dj work but having used them on live music gigs for a couple of years can add the following: 90 degree coverage on the the RCFs is a bit optimistic top end drops of fairly rapidly when your off axis. This means that they do project well though. Adjustable poles are super useful. Wheels are great but not tough enough for day in day out use in and out of venues, smooth ground only so don't be tempted to wheel them over anything anyway rough. I would absolutely love to have separate level control over the subs, partly because they seem to be balanced for DJ work. For live music I have to eq bass out of the system.
So have you used one or both? What did YOU think?
Evox 12 has NO Bass. it's not worth the price tag. Im very upset I got them.
@@obibajk5862They both sound about the same. Just get some nice tops with subs and don't be a fan boy.
Im a proud owner of 2 White LD Systems Maui 44 G2s. They sound amazing and have gotten lots of positive compliments 😍😍
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Very thorough review, maybe your best! At 80 lbs sub section and the need for a dolly, with the Maui, I prefer to go with my 18" RCF sub at 100 lbs over 12" tops. Evox 12 is the heaviest I would go in a column array. Maybe a G28 vs Evox 12 video next?
Justin, thanks you for your Comaparsion, very helpful for picking wich speaker is the best choice. I've rocking J8 for 7 Years very well, but anytime some Wedding locations are very big, theirs is the time for the 12. in my opinion I don’t need Bluetooth and some other Stuff, a great Speaker for my Events, that's it .
Right tool for the job is what it comes down too - ty for your comment
Nice detailed review. On the one hand, it seems like the Maui on paper and perhaps live would outperform the EVOX12 (I've also had some owners of both confirmed this). On the other hand, the EVOX12 is a lot more mobile and adjustable. I chose the EVOX12 because of the mobility, comparatively lightweight sub box, and overall great sound. I think it's to closest to being the swiss army knife for mobile dis. The Maui's are great but at 80lbs, I personally would find it a challenge to bring em out to my gigs. I also think looks are subjective. In white, my EVOX 12 next to an Evolve 50 would hold it's own. Thanks again Justin.
Thanks for your comment
I bought RCF J8 for the same reason over EV/JBL/etc. Being able to get the tops up high is important, the pole mount makes it easy. Also, with the covers I bought (Lecover brand, with custom sewn pocket), everything is in one carrying case, pole and cable included.
I agree. I returned my 44s because they were just too big. Honestly, I found it easier to bring my QSC KW181s out. k12 Tops, maybe not so much. But if you are looking for portability, and you don't have a roll in trailer, ramp, or similar the 44s were just too bulky in my opinion. Damn they were nice though. Hate to see them go!
@@raggaroaringsound I was lucky to hear the same thing. Was looking for something smaller than my KW181 / K12 and the 44's are not that much smaller the RCF 12 is!
Can you finally do a comparison between 3 evenly matched systems these 2 here plus the CURV TS 500 which like the Evox have a standard pole set up which i prefer.
Perhaps :-)
Hello, thanks for the video, does the RCF evox12 sounds harsh in the hights ?
Not at all
@@TheDJsGuru thank you for replying
Thanks for the video. Would the Evox 12 be enough power for an outdoor party for about 90 to 100 people?
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You called the evox cable a "powercon." Powercon is a power cable. "Speakon" is the audio cable equivelent, which is what it uses to connect the top with the sub.
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Im trying to use a setup like this to replace my floor monitor, I play drums, by the way. Do you recommend these types or a floor monitor?
Great video. Would two of the RCF work for a 5 piece rock band? Fully mic’d kit, two guitars going through the PA and 3 vocals? Thank you :)
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@@TheDJsGuru Hi friend, I would like to ask you for advice. I would need a system to do both live and disco evenings for a maximum of 200/300 people, in your opinion two db ES1203 systems would be fine, thanks
I sold my pair of Evox 12’s. Bought a pair of DB Technologies ES1203. The ES1203 wins in power, clarity, features, and portability.
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Same here.....sold my Evox 12's....and now i have all the horse power that I need in db 1203.I dont know what is whole hype with evox 12.Not worth any more...it is out dated.
Sorry for bad Eng.
@@goransljapic Not to trash RCF Evox. I have a pair of Evox 5's and a pair of Evox 8's. Perfect speakers for crowds up to 100 and 300 respectively.
...you want to go next level on the ES1203, remove the original subwoofers with the weak AF 2.5in voicecoils in the reflex enclosure and swap in some Made In Italy RCF Transducers with 4in voicecoils instead. You will never look back as an ES1203 system owner.
I bought (2) of the ES1203's when they first came out, modded them after the 1st gig after blowing 1 of the original woofers, and they are now the most versatile (single system can still be used in stereo where the Maui/EVO/Evox/Bose can't), most robust, best sounding, best tuning with the DSP onboard, portable column arrays. I have tried them all.
For the rare case where I think I might need some enhanced bottom end, I'll add a single RCF 905...
The upgraded ES1203's are such workhorses now, I seldom have to roll out my IG4Ts and 8003's...
@@5milamila Which drivers did you fit?
2 RCF 12 fit in the back of the old shape A class mercedes (with room for a booth above)
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I just unboxed a maui 44 g2 today.
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Contracts. I received my 2 white 44 g2 2 days before Christmas and rocked a gig with them the last Saturday of Dec. They sound amazin 😍😍
Dumb question… are these bought in pairs at the prices advertised or it that per side?
Never a dumb question. Most listings say “System” we get it. At current MAP of 2899 that’s one top and one bottom w pole and powercon cable - we have in stock at www.DJsupplystore.com and would love to earn your business
Try db technologies es1203...
3 channel amplifier.
Dual 12" 8x4" drivers
Dsp digital steering.
132 db 37 kg
Great system!
I looked listen to all (3). Initially I wanted the Es1203 because of its flexibility; unfortunately it has the least amount of bass below 50hz. I ended up going with the G2’s which had the best low bass of the three, but sacrifices the adjustable height. My business partner has the Evox12 and they great too.
@@jonathanberube5056 the maui g2 cost a LOT of money and it's hard to carry...
ES1203 is way more compact... Way cheaper...
Consider db technologies ig2t and a 15" sub if you want more output
@@jonathanberube5056 the maui is 48 kg and it's mono...
The 1203 unit is 29 kg and it's a 3 channel amplifier, you can split the top as far as you want... In a 300 people wedding do you think to use 1 speaker?
@@lucabertolaso2167 For 300 people I’m using my RCF Nxl24a over 8004 system. I wouldn’t use any column array combined system for more than 200 people unless the room was abnormally small. The Maui sub has a caster board and rolls right into my trailer. I feel like last year when I bought the 44s they were around the same price as the es1203.
I'll take my 2 Bose L1 Pro 32's and 2 sub 2's over these heavy monsters. Sound amazing and with 180 degrees of sound, it takes the cake for weddings and corporate events.
Have you ever heard them, seriously? We get the brand loyalty - but don’t be blind either.
Just food for thought. Thanks for the comment :-)
I owned two Bose L1 pro32 with sub2 and they SUCK, no mid, just high mid and low from equivalent 15”.
They are prone to cause feedback when a live mic is near by, no feedback rejection.
The first generation Bose L1 are better in quality and craftsmanship.
They wobble more then a 1 year old walking.
You can buy my for cheap.
@@lorenzohuynh1550bose aren't very good in the pa range I don't know why people buy bose for pa audio
Very honest review in My opinion
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@@TheDJsGuru I've been watching UA-cam videos on home theater systems from receivers to seperates ( pre amp and amp) to speakers bookshelves and towers and yet to get a direct answer when I ask them to recommend a specific type of speaker, receiver or amplifier. I'm also into music as well and have been looking at the LD 44 and RCF as well and this video give me what choice I would make
Thanks much
LD seems like the better bang for buck… 80lbs is wild though for a mobile dj
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Which one sounds better to you?
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Italian made. (Fbt & rcf) Ld are German designed made in china
Hi,do you know when is the versa bar back to stock to your website? Thanks
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Bro are you like 4 feet tall?
Actually 3’ 11” 🤪
@@TheDJsGuru haha that evox 12 sub comes up to your shoulder
These 2 are my favorite brands. Can’t believe how close they are in sound quality. Thanks for vid!
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Absolutely love my Evox 12's.. The wheels on the back of the subs are convenient AF and I love that I can raise the Line Array Speaker to increase the throw or turn it to appropriate positions during an event.. For anyone considering the Evox 12's, I would recommend running them through a Mixer with EQ so you can increase that low end during dancing. I use a Yamaha 10 Channel mixer, during dinner I keep the low end down because no one really gives an F.. plus a Planner, Guest or Venue Management will most likely ask you to turn it down anyways. Once the party starts, just crank up that low end on your mixer and let your crowd enjoy the ride :)
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The Low end is crap. Im sorry. Just got mine today, I will try it with my yamaha mg10xu and see what will happen
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Great review!
Why ty
How do they sound at 20 feet when you are sitting down vs when you are standing up ?
They always sound great - just diff levels
@@TheDJsGuru this answer makes me believe that you didn’t test them
@@rolandjabbour9102 Maybe this won’t - the right answer is. How can you expect us to answer that question when every single room is different and it will sound different every time?
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@@TheDJsGuru this has nothing todo with room size . Do the speakers sound different when you are sitting infront of them Vs when you are standing?
This will be the same if you are outdoors with no walls or ceiling
What about how deep they throw sound? Looking to upgrade....I have the EV 50s but can never use them in a larger room because they throw wide (120) but never deep enough. Found this out the hard way at an event where I hand to run and grab a couple QSC K12s because the EVs dropped off half way to the dance floor.
A lot of the issue is likely due to the low height of the EVs. EV 50s aren't high enough to throw over the heads of the crowd...it's the biggest reason why I got RCF J8 instead. You might try to put your EVs on a riser to get them up higher to see if that helps. From specs, EV 50M are approx 80" high, EVOX12 is 87", Maui 44 is 89", J8 is 90". RCF has the possibility of using taller pole mounts as well. Nothing absorbs sound like people...LOL.
@@NukePooch1 I think you are right. Overall, I think the Evolve 50 is almost perfect for most events. If only it had an extension.
I find u don’t need a deep throw. Most people in the back want to talk & don’t care about how soft or loud the music is heard.
How do you pair the speakers together?
Bluetooth
I'm curious how is the LD Systems Dave 18 g4x compared to these
Mich more powerful ;)
Dont think the rcf has a powercon connection to the array part?
Yes it does sir :-) how else would it transfer the power and signal on one connection?
@@TheDJsGuru J8 and Evox 12 use powercon.
The RCF evox 12 It’s actually called a speakon connection not a powercon connection the speakon cable that goes from the sub to the top transfers the sound to the top line array not power the top is a passive top it doesn’t need power to it just sound
How about the DB Technologies ES 1203?
Solid system as well
I tried both since these are the same company the rcf is way more of a work horse I found the 1203 run out of gas before the evox I just couldn’t get them louder especially out doors
No, a cord is not better than a connected system. From the get go we can see you're partial to the rcf system by the way the rcf is pushed to the front so it looks twice as large. On aesthetics only the LD is 100X better looking. A mobile DJ or musician should always buy the travel bags made for the system. The features of the LD outweigh the rcf by a lot. The sound quality of the LD systems are phenomenal, they give you a sound like an audiophile speaker.
Interesting comments. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
Wish you could do 3way comparison with the RCF tt515 and 808s. Nobody has a good review of the system yet.
How much are you willing to pay for it? 😉
@@TheDJsGuru Bro, I lost my butt returning those 44s paying shipping both ways and a 15% restocking fee. Had to buy the bags and rolling carts separately and paid shipping both ways on those as well. Pretty much lost $2k. I was hoping to purchase the RCF TT515 and 808 set if you had tested it and sold it open box. That way I would have at least made up a little of my losses. But without the review, comparison, and or discount I am not buying anything now.
@@TheDJsGuru I was willing to buy a set. But simply cannot drop that kind of $$ without testing them. Or at least seeing some reviews from people I can trust.
@@raggaroaringsound The question is:: why did you return the 44s?
@@jasonparker1454 They subs were too big and heavy. If I didn't already own a pair of QSC kW181s I would have kept them. But honestly, the 44s didn't make my load in any easier, and it wasn't that much better than my evolve 50 setup. May be a little. My evolve 50s are good for small to medium events. Anything larger I go with the QSC KW181s and k12s? Considering the rcftt515s to replace the k12s but not sure.
but rcf has more more less rms power. 700w rms. how that feels side by side..
Power is really the least important part of the equation - if you watch the last chapter we explain it fairly thoroughly.
Whilst these are great speakers i'd never use a column speaker that could easily be pushed over by your typical drunk dude who doesn't know the difference between a wall and a speaker , i'd be much more confident in a traditional pole setup , they look fine i'm not fussed that the column looks a bit better cosmetically, also a sub that's over 36 kg i may as well just buy a separate top and sub, i can also get a few different model subs that also able to do cardioid mode when using 2.
Ty for your comment but that drunk dude is knocking either or over and there’s nothing we can do about that in our opinion. Been there. ✊
@@TheDJsGuru Sorry disagree i've been in this situation a fair few times and you never know when that dude is going to appear it can catch you off guard he may have been that guy who looked respectable earlier in the evening but once the music comes on hot & strong he's usually the one who is the loudest and most annoying & that could get others into that mode also, and no in my experience no dude has ever knocked over my Presonus Air18s with pole mounted ULT 10's by leaning on the tops, he may flip the top around but that's about it, the problem is the way the array is mounted in the LD.
I own the RCF 12's not for dj work but having used them on live music gigs for a couple of years can add the following: 90 degree coverage on the the RCFs is a bit optimistic top end drops of fairly rapidly when your off axis. This means that they do project well though. Adjustable poles are super useful. Wheels are great but not tough enough for day in day out use in and out of venues, smooth ground only so don't be tempted to wheel them over anything anyway rough. I would absolutely love to have separate level control over the subs, partly because they seem to be balanced for DJ work. For live music I have to eq bass out of the system.
Ty for your comment