The Fatal Crash of an Air Race Champion during a Routine Food Supply Flight.
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- On September 8, 2016, the aviation world was shaken by the tragic loss of Hannes Arch, an acclaimed Red Bull Air Race champion, who fatally crashed his helicopter during a standard supply mission to a secluded hut in the Austrian Alps. Remarkably, a 62-year-old passenger miraculously survived the crash, sustaining serious injuries. The account provided by this passenger became crucial in piecing together the events leading up to the crash's final moments.
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There was nothing 'routine' about this flight. Night VFR flying in a helicopter in the mountains is the most dangerous flying there is. It doesn't matter how skilled a pilot is at flying in good weather, night flying is deadly serious. I can't believe this guy decided to depart at night. Very poor decision making.
Complacency is the biggest killer of pilots. He was so used to dangerous flying he didn't give this the same consideration
Agree. That makes it so tragic.. Such a skilled aviator, but he didn’t hold to his responsibilities as a PIC. It was “routine” because it wasn’t for competition, it wasn’t an emergency… this flight wasn’t “necessary”.
Hannes could have complied with the 7am-2pm flight restriction, stayed overnight and flown back the next morning. His first bad decision was made at 2pm, to violate the restriction and not fly in daylight. Why not fly back at 3-4-5pm? We may never know.
Agreed
Agree 110%
Also, I find it inexcusable to violate the terms of the permit by flying from the hut after 2 p.m. No matter how great you are, knowingly violating the rules demonstrates a serious character flaw, especially in aviation.
And, there are pilots with decades-long careers with thousands of hours of flight time, who understand and master not only the complex aircraft they fly, but also regulations and procedures that keep people safe. Lots of these pilots have never gotten themselves or their customers killed. They are who deserve admiration and praise.
As my flight instructor used to say: There are bold pilots and old pilots, but no bold old pilots...".
I often remembered that sentence when I had to make the decision between safety and inconvenience or taking a risk just to "get there in time".
Rickenbacker, Doolittle, Yeager, Hoover, Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins.
Bold pilots can and do live long lives well into old age.
Stupid pilots do not. And (many) are unremarkable, completely and totally stupid individuals.
The tests are not hard and the study material is egregiously in error when compared to reality.
Hard to believe he wasn't wearing his Red Bull night vision goggles. Heard that drink causes poor decision making 😂
Excellent documentary, and remarkable commentary 👏.
That long report should have simply stated, "Pilot flew in the dark and then crashed into the mountain side". Pilot goes from hero to zero for doing a really stupid thing by endangering the life of his passenger.
Exactly. I'm not a pilot, but, I can easily see thats terrible idea
Most of the crashes are from being stupid and taking unnecessary risks, yet they are commended for their efforts. Anyone that chooses to fly in a Robinson is not thinking clearly, not to mention at night without any night vision or infrared.
Stupid is as stupid does!
CFIT
Agree. He could have just not flown at night. Or invested in a FLIR system or, if he did get in there after dark, stay on the aircraft or the local property until daylight. In other words, lots of better choices then the one he made.
Now we know why flights are only to be made 7AM-2PM
People who always push the limits will eventually find them.
Sounds like a tragic case of overconfidence. RIP.
Yep... stupidity
Overconfident machismo with one of these guys? Naaaaaaaah……
Estupidez e excesso de confiança...
Existiam regras, uma janela de horas, por alguma razão era!
Voos próximos do solo, na Áustria, país montanhoso, de noite?
É quase suicídio!!
Why did he make the return trip in darkness, especially in mountainous terrain.
Omg. Yes! That must be why it's called "hindsight" though.
Yes,....hindsight,...insight,...obviously....important & relevant words.
To, get there NOW!
Passengers need to always be weary of the pilot too. It's often pretty obvious that a flight is a bad idea: terrain, altitude, icing conditions, temperature, distance and attitude.
It was not a mistake. It was a choice. The choice he made cost him his life. It was not an “error” or bad luck. That’s what I find so infuriating. This man with such tremendous talent and skill. He made this choice.
“Integrity is measured by what you do when no one is looking.”
Hannes made the specific and deliberate choice to fly in night conditions. The cause of this accident was his choice to violate the flight exemption for his flight expressly limiting the flight window to the hours between 7am to 2pm. Period. Full stop.
It was his choice.
That is the part of this story that pilots and practitioners of many kinds can learn from: Have the integrity to choose to follow the rules and stay within limits. They exist to save your life.
Examples: Visibility minimums. Altitude minimums. Fuel reserve minimums.
A choice can be a mistake.
@@lilg2300ofcourse it was mistake...his ego killed him and stupidity.
Night unaided flight in mountainous terrain, what could go wrong? I’m sorry but people like this don’t have a realistic perception of risk, they think they’re invincible.
Yeh, he didn't ask to be blindfolded before flying up there like it was some magic trick. He would likely have believed he had considered all the risks & believed it was safe. Lost vision in a single moment. It was a single error which cost him his life.
He hadn't died racing. Because he was a pilot that was professional & planned in advance & believed risk was managed as much as possible as he had with every helicopter flight he piloted until that moment.
He was a pilot that raced and was safe in that environment or does the fact that he was a race pilot equate to a feeling of invincibility? Ayrton Senna feared death. He didn't think he was invincible at all. You know who else doesn't have a realistic perception of risk? Every person on the planet who plans for their future. Who guarantees you TOMORROW?
Or the next day or the next? Do you know who else is killed in air accidents? Pilots with tens of thousands of hours of experience because as much as we put systems in place hoping to avoid tragedies they do occur & will continue to occur because people are human with human frailties & faults & thats a good enough reason for me not to criticise or condemn those people for an error because I also know im not a hypocrite & I also dont live in a vacuum so I can be affected by fatigue or other elements in my decision making & because Im not a robot.
They call it planning. Not guaranteeing. They even call it "planning" when they are selling you on your funeral & that is the only guarantee we all have.
How many defeated Generals or coaches or divers thought they had planned everything for success only to be defeated? Did each one consider themselves invincible? All the police officers & firemen, killed on the job. Do you think they went to work every day & when each one got home at the end of it each & every completed shift they would sit on the couch or the side of their bed & feel their entire body wracked with involuntary shakes & they'd need an hour to get themselves under control & then have dinner with the wife & kids? They should have, shouldn't they? Including every officer or firemen that are serving in that capacity right now.
If they don't live with the realisation they can die every single day then they don't have a realistic perception of risk I'm afraid to say. Thats risk that can only be managed to a minimal degree & is far more prone to being unmanageable risk. So they believe they are invincible then dont they?
Or could it be that we don't even need to be police officers, firemen, pilots or astronauts or anything but regular people making endless adjustments all day long & listening & looking out for obvious dangers, using road rules etc, as much as we can, to protect ourselves & not be injured or killed each & every day we exist while our subconscious mind is just that, subconscious, or we would be far too aware of the endless & incalculable manner in which we can die from the incalculable number of risks to our lives all the time & which could even be fatal as a result of another persons actions or even as a single mistake we have made ourselves. If you were to tell me all of us are living with a realistic perception of risk I am telling you that you are being unrealistic.
People drinking, surrounded by people they dont know who are drinking dont have a realistic perception of risk. But we do it. We dont expect to die when we go to the pub or club but it happens. We just put that to the back of our minds though dont we? Of course we do.
A person in a pub or club, not causing trouble & is sober can be stabbed & die in minutes & not have done anything to anyone but it does mean they consider themselves invincible. Because thinking it couldn't happen isn't realistic, is it?
I dont perceive it could happen. It does happen. Serious injuries certainly do. Thats only pubs & clubs.
You should pop down to emergency rooms, on Friday & Saturday nights especially, & ask how they came to be knifed or kicked or otherwise victimised & let them know that unless they considered that what happened could be the outcome then they must consider themselves invincible or they have an unrealistic perception of risk. But be careful of ambulance's rushing in or out, avoid using the atm at night or walking through a park or any streets surrounding bars or anywhere with a lack of lighting etc etc etc or try to be less judgemental when it isnt a case of intentional homicide or suicide.
Any engine failure would have been fatal. High-risk flight. Bad decision.
Very poor decision making.
Flying a helicopter at night in mountains is not "minimal risk"
Flying any helicopter at night is risky, but flying a R66, R44 (or heaven forbid R22) is definitely not low risk!! Put it all together; night, mountains and marginal helicopter type......very risky. I would of course add here, that this was a tragic loss of an undoubtedly great pilot. So very sad. Tragically a risk too many that night. RIP.
Yep. Sadly this is what might happen when people start to think they are untouchables and above accidents. Such a waste.
Especially in the mountains
Who are you again? I did it for years in the military accident free and low risk. Quiet.
100% correct…. I don’t fly at night anywhere in rotorcraft…. The sky at night is for fixed wings.
It is sad that he just didn't wait till the next morning to fly back.
Yes.
I think its because he thought he was going to make it back safely though you see. If he had known this plus that was going to result in his death I have no doubt that the idea you put forward wouldnt have been his option instead of his death. I dont think it was intentional though & so,...yeah. was it essential they go when they did? Couldnt it wait? Couldnt someone else have done it?
100% agree.
or just head straight back, this account says he went for a walk to see the area, that helicopter wouldn't have had a lot of cargo on board, he got complacent and it cost him dearly.
He only had 1019 TT, mostly fixed wing, no instrument rating attempting a night, mountain helicopter departure ?
I am. a retired professional pilot and I never heard of this guy till now.
My flight instructor had over 30,000 hours. Tragically he died in a crash due to an imbedded thunderstorm cell which ripped the starboard wing from his plane. He was the best pilot I had ever known. Yet his corporate boss demanded he fly home from maintenance to take the executive on a trip which could have been done commercial. The greedy exec cost my dear friend his life.
Sorry about the loss of your instructor but he chose to fly when it wasn't safe. He wasn't forced to fly so maybe it was greed on the pilots part as well.
Blame it on whatever you wish, it was a simple pilot-error in decision making. In a turbine-powered heli, it's quite simple to climb straight up that required 1000', before moving at all towards your destination. Combining forward speed with that climb in a dark-out situation, means flying blind, especially when you have no GPS signal, or won't wait to acquire one. I had just met Hannes briefly the summer before, involved with the 2015 Red Bull X-Alps. Aviation is forgiving of no one.
No it’s not simple to do what you describe at all, nor is it likely the helicopter was capable of doing this.
@@chrisbeauchamp5563 - It's a turbine-powered heli, service ceiling 2x the altitude they were at. Yes, it IS simple to do, just as simple as climbing while moving forward. There ARE instruments in the cockpit, all you have to do is stay level, watch altimeter, and actually DO what he said he was going to do.
@@Summitspeedflythere’s no easy way to say this. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
A helicopters power demand is highest in a vertical climb, the higher it is the higher the demand. A turbine does not change this as the rotor system requires more power. If this helicopter was capable of climbing vertical at that height it would have been at a very slow rate. The best climb speed in a helicopter varies by type but typically is between 50 - 70 kts.
All this ignores your comment about a vertical climb been easy which is the bigger problem. A helicopter is the least stable in a hover. At night with no external reference this is dangerous. The standard instruments are not of any aid in the situation. IFR helicopters have a minimum speed typically around 50-60kts because this is when the helicopter becomes more stable and that is with IFR autopilots installed. There are some exceptions but not this one here.
I’d suggest in the future to only comment with authority on subjects that you are knowledgeable on
There IS an easy way to explain this, but I'll just call your post arrogance-splaining. I AM a trained helicopter pilot, 20,000+ hours of combined flight-time in jets, airliners, helis, sailplanes, hang-gliders, paragliders, I even ski with a wing over my head. He only had to gain 1000' to assure his, and his PAX safety. A 1000' vertical climb in a turbine heli at 7000' is a no-brainer, and WELL within the capability at that density altitude. Cool temps, light load - easy-peasy. EVERYTHING about his chosen situation dictated a vertical climb. If I can do one in Denver in the summer time in a recip, than this was easy.
@@SummitspeedflyI don’t believe you, I think you’re making that up, trolling or massively exaggerating.
No helicopter pilot is his right mind would do a hovering climb of 1000ft in the mountains in the daytime let alone night.
A bad case of get-there-itis poor bastard RIP.
Superb video. As a commercial helicopter pilot, am always… always… ALWAYS looking for a place to land in the event of an engine failure. That would be near to impossible in complete darkness. An engine failure may require throwing the bird into a 90° or 180° or 270° or even a 360° auto depending on the location of a previously observed landing area (which he won’t be able to see in the dark) that may be up ahead, to the side or behind. While in flight during the initial check ride for the rotor wing license, the examiner will ask you questions about aviation related topics such as aerodynamics, weather etc. and while you are in the middle of a sentence of your answer, the examiner will roll off the throttle and dump collective and analyze your response and actions to what he just did. If you pause to say “WHAT THE HELL JUST HAPPENED?!” …you then just failed the check ride. The proper response is to instantly put the bird into the proper parameters for the auto and start pointing the bird toward a landing zone and all the while verbally telling the examiner what you are doing and where you are going with the bird. If the bird is in a proper auto and it is descending toward the landing zone you told the examiner you were aiming for, the examiner will say that is enough whereupon you can abort the auto and roll-on the throttle and pull collective and continue normal flight attitude. So… keeping all this in mind, choosing to fly a helicopter in dim or non existent lighting in the mountains and where you cannot see potential landing zones, not to mention the sides of a mountain, is idiotic and suicidal. Only those like the search and rescue pilots who are extensively trained and have the appropriate kind of bird with the associated night flying equipment can fly under those conditions. The death and destruction could simply have been avoided if he had obeyed the flight restrictions and waited until the next day to fly out of there.
Thank you for your comment and contribution. Your insights are appreciated.
Night, in the mountains, no way
That passenger was incredibly lucky to survive
Night flight (BELOW MSA for a fixed wing), in an unlit valley, in a mountainous region, with no lit visual reference points and hard rock very close by should you stray off critical path... Turns my veins to ice. Night VFR flight is wonderful and beautiful in well lit areas.... in the blind with a rocky death lurking nearby.... not so much. As a relatively inexperienced pilot, I don't want to teach grandma how to suck eggs, but this seemed like a crazy decision. Rather sit the night out next to the fire...
Problem is, it's impossible to convey to VFR pilots (or low-time instrument-rated pilots) how potentially dangerous night flying can be. Only after they've been badly scared do they get it. The others end up dead, often along with their friends and family members. All night flying should be on an IFR flight plan, with departures and arrivals flown exactly as published.
We just had one on way to Vegas, a Chartered copter, night, bad weather, rain, only lighting were cars on freeway, took off anyways, probably hit power lines. Some rich people died I think.
@1:05 Since when is Salzburg nestled in the heart of Austria ? The german border is about 5 km northwest of the city center.
Was at the Hangar 7 only a few weeks ago and made a short video about it, if anyone wants to get an inside impression.
You don’t want to be flying low level in the mountains at night without NVG goggles.
I’m not an aviator but it seems pretty obvious that he shouldn’t have flown back in the dark. If he was pushed for time, he could’ve got back that afternoon in daylight. If not, then he could have stayed at the hut and gone back the following morning.
1,000 odd hours and a few helicopter hours. He flew into terrain , Night, IMC, mountains, Pick one.
What a waste. Helicopters are not Airplanes
Obviously a risk and rule breaker! The world can do without fools like him!
Great work again, thank you👌
How anyone could fly at night, on a single engine aeroplane in a mountainous area, beats me!
Flying VFR in IFR conditions generally does not work out.
The flight was supposed to be in daylight. He took off in the dark and not surprisingly flew into a mountain.
An over confident pilot, thinking that I've done this flight a million times, a million and one wasn't going to happen.
If someone offered me a night flight out of a mountainous area at night in a light helicopter, no way would I spontaneously agree.
I give Red Bull credit. They have convinced Millennials that caffeinated sugar water can make you great. I guess in this case it really did give you wings.
😂
Skill and Bravado are separated by only a very fine line - only noticeable to very few people
He was not just flying at night. At the time he took of the sky was still somewhat lid while the vally, that opens to the north, was already dark. That way you can see even less of the surounding terrain than thuring the night.
Austrian media at the time also reported that he only held a ppl and was not licensed to do supply runs. For that reason he had his transponder turned of for most of the flight.
It was also rumored that he spend the afternoon handing out with the owner of the hut having a few drinks.
Whether all of this is actually true i can't tell and these things where only reported shortly after his crash.
If these reports where true, they most likely, where not repeated, to not stain his reputation.
But i personally belive these stories to be true as he was known to lack discipline as a pilot and hat a reputation for being a deardevil.
As my flight instructor once said, there are old pilots and bolt pilots, but no old bolt pilots
Greetz fro austria
A sad loss
Why the hell is he in the dark! That's almost premeditated murder.
Why?, a so proficient pilot performs a so dangerous mountain flight at night.
I thought the 1000ft plan sounded pretty good.
It was good but he should have climbed straight up. Climbing while going forward at night in a valley or canyon........well, we see the results.
No, not a good idea. Vertical climb out without visual external reference is almost impossible to achieve.
@@TimToussaint - RUFKM?
I 100% won’t fly at night anywhere in rotorcraft…. I fly the night sky’s in. Multi-engined fixed wings IFR
That is so sad, we had a copy of an old photograph of a Biplane in a tree in our crew room, the the caption read "Flying is not inherently dangerous, however like the sea it can be very unforgiving" RIP
Another desperately sad yet totally avoidable accident. Such a capable pilot, a likeable guy, he entertained us in the Red Bull Air Race series. To die like this ? Such a waste. He’s not the first, he won’t be the last. But for the grace of God, etc.
I'm no pilot, but why wait until dark before trying to fly out through a mountain valley?? Don't have to be a genius to understand why outward leg went off without problem while return leg culminated in fatal accident. Jesus Christ.....
I was at his last race
Why would anyone fly a helicopter in pitch black darkness, 🤔
It’s can’t be both a routine flight if Arch also “encountered challenging conditions in the moments leading up to the crash.”
How did anyone survive that? Thank god for the locator beacon so it was possible to get to the hut attendant quickly. I think knowing the pilot was breaking his permit conditions, I wouldn’t have accompanied him. It would have been far safer to wait until early morning the next day. This flight needed a very experienced pilot who had shedloads of IMC training to make in the dark, presumably why the permit stated 2pm as the limit.
I’m sure he was a lovely person and an experienced risk taker, but what was he thinking? It shows a certain arrogance to not only violate his permit, but to do so with a passenger, though I don’t know at what point this guy asked to accompany him.
Was Arche ever certified for IFR?
Hätte in dem Fall auch nichts genutzt!
@@fytart I know that in Europe there is no such thing a night VFR. So, I'm assuming he was rated as an IFR pilot. However, the vast majority of his flying career had to be day VFR; because you can't race in IFR conditions. He was probably very rusty on his IFR experience.
Never fly with a daredevil pilot!
Gotta get there NOW Syndrome.
Risk goes up substantially when you defy common sense and the rules under which you are supposed to operate your aircraft.
Let's be clear. This guy was no Chuck Yeager, not some kind of hero. He was a hotshot pilot who made a very bad decision and paid for it with his life.
Better than even money this is not the first time he did this kind of thing.
I think he was showing off to the hut keeper and was skimming the rocks and 💥
I was fortunate to meet and hang out with Hannes during multiple RB Air Races.. He was an incredible 'stick'... I mean no disrespect to Robinson, though I'll likely never charter / fly another 22/44/66 unless it is the only option and pressed to do it... BUT, I'm scratching my head over WHY Hannes was flying a R66 as opposed to much more capable helicopters with full IFR capabilities and much more power in reserve... RIP brother! You absolutely are missed!
That was the first thing I thought. I'm from NZ & R22's were definitely over represented in the stats for a large chunk of time down here. I dont think it would be possible to account for the bulk of the stats only being due to affordability & less experienced pilots. He was my favourite Red Bull pilot before he was a champion & came across the racing on TV one day & it was mainly because of his focus when flying the course & his demeanour in interviews. When I tuned in for the season after he had taken the title I believe it was, I had wondered why he wasn't in the list of competitors, googled his name & was shocked to see he was gone. Reading the comments, there is a huge proportion of people that watch this channel that have lived a life of perfection to date or equate having enough skill at his sport to pick up sponsorship & WORK for his success to "rich guy gets what he asks for". Would he do anything differently IN HINDSIGHT? Of course, it wasnt suicide, but what I heard on the episode was he was basically blinded at that moment. What he thought at that second is irrelevant because, unlike the critics condemning & criticizing Hannes,, I can understand that it only takes a second,...a second, & everything would have been chaos. In the cold light of day it's simple to say "he should have" & "why didn't he" but cemeteries have rows of graves where hindsight is easy.
What the usual practice is with air accident investigations is that at its conclusion they hope to be able to find the cause & issue the report so that it can be learnt from, for the largest amount of people that can.
There's no chapter at the end of a report for condemning a pilot, even in intentional incidents, because its recognised pilots are human beings & capable of mistakes like us all. Anybody wants accidents to be avoided but they do occur. A mistake cost him his life. That's a price that should be enough to pay I would think,..but some people commenting need more before they feel satisfied.
RIP Hannes.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights!
It was not a mistake. It was a choice. The choice he made cost him his life. It was not an “error” or bad luck. That’s what I find so infuriating about the death of this fantastically skilled and talented man.
“Integrity is measured by what you do when no one is looking.”
Hannes made the specific and deliberate choice to fly in night conditions. The cause of this accident was his choice to violate the flight exemption for his flight expressly limiting the flight window to the hours between 7am to 2pm. Period. Full stop.
It was his choice.
That is the part of this story that pilots and practitioners of many kinds can learn from: Have the integrity to choose to follow the rules and stay within limits. They exist to save your life.
Examples: Visibility minimums. Altitude minimums. Fuel reserve minimums.
@@65SATisfaction ok. I've got you. The medical report needs to be changed & have cause of death listed as Suicide.
Because it was obviously intentional & there's no room in the world you exist in for mistakes or errors & their consequences to be anything other than intentional actions. The difference in this case was the manner Hannes choose to end his life was a slightly longer & unusual process than is commonly used but apparently there cant be contributing factors such as fatigue which might be a factor in making the decisions or overlooking a single point which can have devastating outcomes.
Well I think I need to invest in a signmakers business & pick up all the work from businesses that have the word ACCIDENT printed on them when we should have the integrity to call them INTENTIONALS & we need to think of any other elements that might be involved as "contributing factors to the intentional event" but now I consider that point then they cant be called "contributing factors" when they could only be additional intentional actions or factors intentionally included in the overall intenional outcome by the individual that intended to kill himself.
Awesome. We dont have an air accident investigation at all. We are having air intention investigations. Not much money to be made there if they only have initials on the sign but just like you, Im only working to sustain the minimum of requirements to feed & house myself because as men of integrity we wouldn't want to profit by a single cent more than is absolutely necessary, just as men of integrity like us dont turn our integrity on & off , we maintain our integrity in every single aspect of our lives & thats why we have no vices including being overweight at all, no swimming pools or home heating outside of insulating it, no spare room & actually not a single thing that could be considered frivolous absolutely necessary by any standards because we are men of integrity & we also make sure we always apply at least the same standards to ourselves in all aspects of our lives as we are demanding of others because thats what integrity is. You should be applauded for never receiving a single traffic infringment or being injured at all unless it was a result of your actions & you havent needed to redo anything. Thats because your not a robot at all, but a man of integrity that isnt capable of mistakes or errors because you follow processes religiously or it must have been your intention. Neat.
Im fairly certain that the aim of an accident report (there's that word again) is to find the cause &/or the contributing factors that may be a combination that resulted to cause the event that precipitated the investigation. Beyond semantics, thats what an investigation report is intended to do isnt it? Yes.
Nowhere is it an intention of a report to go beyond finding the cause & any contributing factors because unless there was suspicion of any criminal intent it is unnecessary & anything else beyond that intent of the report could actually detract from the lessons that can be learned.
Tell me thats not right. I'll wait.
They also know that humans are fallible. General society understands this is an inherent fault of the human condition that we are all capable of mistakes & so, not all of us, but its commonly understood without the need to be explained that "there by the grace of God goes I" or the idea that we may not do the same thing but that according to curcumstance we COULD do the same thing & so we save our condemnation for those that actively act with intent & there are situations that we also consider factors that may have contributed to intentional acts & sometimes reserve wholly condemning a person for their act. Do you know why that is? I have the feeling your an engineer or something so I want to explain it so you understand, so you understand the humanity at play here & what is an actual need of society in general. That information we receive & knowledge we have means that even with intentional acts we can "understand" how something may have happened & that doesnt mean anything other than that but for those of us that may be entirely lacking in integrity we have no reason to go beyond basic criticism which would be of the type in the report which seeks to explain the mistakes made, & not to condemn a person that isn't alive to defend themselves or we dont because its of no use & to be entirely clear to you, in my opinion, shows a complete LACK of integrity or some insecurity that you feel a need to.
F*ck your version of integrity.
What the hell is the good of Integrity without also decency, empathy or morality? Its the same as education without morality. You can have all the learning to build the perfect machine for chopping human beings into pieces without the humanity & common decency to know why you shouldnt have built it in the first place.
I have no problem whatsoever with being held responsible for our actions but I dont need to piss on a persons grave to show I understand his choices were the reason for his death. It was obvious from the narration of the video but I have never seen a comments page with so many people feeling a need to post cold hearted or callous comments or the need to condemn Hannes for a human error & every human doing something as basic as driving has the potential yo make an error or mistake that results in our death or that of others. The reason I mentioned engineers earlier is because from my experience its people in that & similar fields that do see the forest for the trees or work in minutiae & focus on systems & processes & because they can have a technical, mechanised or processes based focus in how they view the world they can be susceptible to criticisms that diminish or dismiss the actual weight of the psychological & emotional factors which are an inherent part of possible human causation as an element when investigating an event.
It wasn't the helicopter. He flew it into terrain = CFIT + IMC = dead
Some people believe that they are somehow invulnerable, like gods. I am (was) a helicopter pilot and professional pilot myself.
Cpt 747 and much more.
I flew my Extra 330sc and my Extra 300 for several years.
But you should see the problem somewhere else.
Red Bull, and I knew Arch too. if I challenge different people and tell them long enough that they are the elite. Then two different categories emerge. Some really believe it, others keep their feet on the ground.
I'll leave it open to you which category arch belonged to and I don't blame Red Bull, that's marketing.
Poor airmanship. Red Bull hero or not.
Nice job Arch…rookie mistake. At least you didn’t kill your partner. You rule breaker.
A very poor decision to fly at that time. I wonder how much night helicopter experience he had.
Night flight VFR in mountainous terrain at high altitude. What could go wrong.
They were both drinking before the flight
Ouch
We all take reasonable risks. The only difference is what we consider reasonable.
Shoulda had Garmin Synthetic Vision
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Play with fire, you might get burned!
This* is yet another heartbreaking example, if a perfect one were to ever exist, of, a "normalization of deviance" (sic).
*Just as @pilot-debrief has so eloquently put it...
#adr 🙏
Wasn’t worth it…never is
Since when was Richard Ayoade narrating youtube videos?
Complacency kills the best of us, no matter what. High Terrain VFR operations are the most demanding situations pretty much known - they are never standard. Doing high terrain in low or no light without NV and terrain warning aid is suicide. He should have stuck to the permitted flight time and waited the night out rather then making up a risky flight plan with a vertical 1000ft clime over terrain which he never executed before proceeding with his plant route nor prepping the cockpit for the flight conditions before takeoff into IFR country.
1:40 commentary sounds like a PR Promotion! “Hangar 7 stands as a vibrant testament to Red Bull’s commitment to innovation and the arts inviting visitors to explore the intersection of speed, creativity & human achievement.” Do you have a marketing or PR background??😂
Best advice is to stay on the ground
Experience comes with a dark side.... complacency...
Experience would have not put oneself in that position.
Entirely preventable accident.
Well addressed, the percentages in aviation RIP
Why flying under VMC conditions? Was is not better to go one or two hours earlier? Do stunt people always think they have SEVEN lives like a cat? Where was his feeling of responsibility for the life and welfare of his passenger?
Completely without any sense of responsibility.
He simply wasn't amazing helicopter pilot. It's like a car racer got on the bike. Not the same.
Why in the world was he not using night goggles?
We have to we don't have a choice??
TOBIAS. The word is bold. “There are old pilots and there are BOLD pilots but there are no old BOLD pilots “. I’m not criticizing you just correcting it. BOLT I think the German word may be Schraube. As you know translation can be sehr komisch. So I may be wrong . LOL.
I thought red bull give you 🪽 wings?
Another damn Robinson bites the dust! They don’t handle abrupt extreme movement of the cyclic!
There are old pilots. There are bold pilots. There are no old bold pilots.
Sitting at an Alpine hotel beautiful views. Have a beer enjoy the night and return in the morning.
Easily preventable accident with no excuse. Outcome was predictable and indicative of very poor decision making by the pilot.
CFIT
Another Robinson helicopter, though can't blame lack of mortality. Sad.
The old cliche….old or bold but never bold and old
Night mountain takeoff in a helicopter from refuge is just reckless and stupid.Vfr at night in mountainous terrain is not regular or normal.Rip.
Too much CGI
The Drone with the original recordings is unfortunatlely missing 🙄
@@anumai1 still, too much CGI
Can’t help him.
Play stupid games win stupid prizes. LOL Another rich guy that dies because he thought he was better than he was.