To be clear, you're talking about life without parole for the early offenses he was charged with? If so, we'll have to pay to incarcerate a lot more people, and we'll have to build more prisons (unless we stop incarcerating so many nonviolent drug offenders). And when we convict and incarcerate an innocent person, it will be a much bigger mistake.
@@loki2240now why would you think that? Of course I don’t think he should’ve gotten life without for his early offenses. Doesn’t change the fact that he finally ended up murdering a woman after years of assaults. These crimes escalate and they need to start taking that into consideration when sentencing them and monitor these criminals more closely.
@@birdie9240 - So, should he have gotten a significantly harsher sentence at some earlier point. When should monitoring have started, and how would it have prevented or discouraged these encounters with women? Do you think that a good faith attempt at rehabilitation would've helped? Do you have any other ideas that may have helped? To be clear, I'm not attacking you. I'm looking for positive (or at least better) outcomes. Thank you for your input.
@@birdie9240 - Personally, I think that sex offenders are typically fundamentally different from other offenders who tend to be influenced by situational factors much more. To the extent that any offenders "learn their lesson" in our punishment-focused prison system, our prison system doesn't change sex offenders' sexual desires or behavior. And I don't think rehabilitation would be very effective, either. We're in a tough situation. But I don't think that we can make significant improvement by continuing to do what we've been doing. And that includes treating sex offenders too much like other offenders. Maybe some other countries have developed more effective approaches.
Would Harvey Weinstein have been able to do what he did if there was a man present? Of course not, and many of those women were WILLING to pay that price for the chance of stardom. Both of the women involved in his trial continued to send him gifts and love letters for YEARS after he assaulted them. If they could choose to remain outside the industry or have sex with distasteful men many women will choose the latter… and they won’t have that opportunity if they’re chaperoned. The women who DON’T bring someone along will get the parts… and that defeats the entire purpose of the process, for both parties.
@@JIMMILLS-vo4dwTed Bundy was another example of morbid attraction. While he was in confinement and after admitting his crimes, women sent letters of loving attachment to him. He even married before execution . 🔥
I knew Christi Johnson and her brother Derek. They went to our local HS with my daughters. Although it's been many years since her death, she will never be forgotten. 😢
This guy was so obviously a predator, and the system just kept letting him go. It's hard to believe he could commit so many acts of violence against women and still be allowed back out on the street.
Honestly, I don't find it all that hard to believe. It's even worse in Australia. A tap on the wrist is all you get for violence against women or anything else, really 🤷🏽♀️.
There isn't enough room in prisons for the people that need to be there. All the space is taken up by people who shouldn't be in prison in the first place but are there because of the corrupt profit/career-seeking corruption.
That particular outfit that he required made me remember an encounter I had as a teenager in the early 80s. I was 17, there was an advert in the paper for new model talent. The man I spoke to on the phone requested that very same outfit, but he specified no underwear of any kind. I had him speak with my mother, and he seemed okay. We set an appointment. I was half-hearted, until I realized in talking to my mother about it that the lack of underwear was only said to me. The man called me a day before the "audition" and asked me whether my mother was around. When I told him that she was out, the barrage of questions he then asked me were clearly out of bounds even his voice changed. I didn't go to the audition. He called back repeatedly. I never explained it to my mother, because there was just no talking with her about that sort of thing ever. I credit a little innate sense, the pulpy novels that I was reading then, and a bunch of television movies of the week for my ability to recognize what that man was about back then.
When you say there was no talking to your mother about that kind of thing, it makes me curious, like do you mean she really wanted you to get into modeling or maybe just take any opportunities that you were given? I'm so sorry to hear that you couldn't have explained to her why that man made you feel unsafe. I absolutely believe that you made the right choice, and it just makes me feel sad that your mom wouldn't have understood why your gut instinct would have been not to trust that man.
@@ThroatzillaaaIt's common for teen girls to have ongoing spats and disagreements with their mothers. I dare say the mother probably would've understood if the daughter told her about the no underwear thing.
lol a guy literally trying to get you to have phone sex with him and show up alone with no underwear “I don’t know, something seems off about this guy. You know, they say I’m a pretty investigative person with lots of good intuition”
@@tanyaedwards4574 I would trust more on odds than instinct. Everyone likes to think that they are the exception to the rule. That is why the lottery exists.
@@untouchable360x I'd bet with Ms. Theron the recruiter didn't ask her to meet at some shady residence and come alone... she probably was asked to meet at some film studio or other big, prestigious place.
The lady who took her boyfriend was rejected. Moral of the story is to never meet a stranger alone in a hotel room or some remote location. She was too naïve to know that. Poor kid.
I've been a working actor all my life and ran into a couple of these fake audition situations, but my spidey sense kicked in and I didn't go to them. If something feels off, pay attention. Stay alive and unassaulted..
I never go to any auditions alone, at least someone comes with me to the door and waits outside, if the place looks sketchy I leave, or if I have to go alone I inform someone about the location of the audition and the time I'm coming back
Gee Bogdan, I don't know, maybe it was when one guy asked me if I could throw him over my shoulder in a fireman's carry, or that he asked me to come alone, and asked me what turns me on in a man;"his chest, right?", or the fact that he was clearly masturbating while he talked. Or maybe I'm just intuitive.
That applies with other jobs too. Sometimes the one in charge of getting the person for the job already has a friend or relative picked but will put in an ad for the job for a cover. those who apply wasted time and money to be just used.
That's how it works when interviewing for jobs, many times it's an inside job and they already have a person within the company chosen, they just have to go through the formalities of interviewing other people to satisfy protocol, government etc... Sad but true.
Right. She's a nice sweet looking young gal, but you could see he was weird from outer space. Being from Santa Monica we would never believe a person like that.
I was approached by a guy like this in a mall when I was in my 20s but it wasn't in California. He was a 'magazine photographer' and wanted me to come to his hotel for some test shots. When he found that didn't work, he invited me to a restaurant at the mall, just for dinner. That didn't work either. When I finally left the mall, he 'just happened' to drive by and see me. I was quite creeped out by all of this. He flashed a huge wad of hundred dollar bills during our 'talking' and I considered for a brief moment of going to his hotel and robbing him. I don't think it would have been hard to do. But, I'm not a criminal and decided to just get away from him. Luckily, I smelled a rat right off and went with my gut instincts.
@@tonyamartin1425 That's rich coming from quite literally anyone with the brain power to open up a door. So I guess you fall below the requied IQ? The difference is not acting on it. Everybody has had criminal thoughts. If we went to jail for our thoughts, we'd all the locked up. I bet you're one of those people that are "just being honest" when you say something extremely out of line.
Its so sad to think she probably believed that this was the break she was hoping for and that it would be the first day of the rest of her life as opposed to the last day of her life.
Really appreciate your little podcast space, with the cactuses and green/blue lighting. Calm cool colors to accompany the sticky prickly content that you analyze. Thank you for sharing your voice on matters gone terribly bad for all kinds of different people. I feel like I gain a more healthy perspective on things after I visit here. So thank you Dr. Todd. Wishing you and yours much wellness.
I lived in the little Lake Michigan town where Kristi and her family lived. They were a beautiful family and Kristi was a very sweet girl. The town is very tiny but the people there are the best you could ever meet. But because it’s a small, friendly town people can be a little naive. Not knowing that some people don’t have good intentions.
I got discovered in Hollywood Boulevard Post Office LA many years ago by a small elderly Jewish man with glasses. He invited me to his tiny studio with a piano in it at the top of a building nearby, the following day. I didn't take anyone with me because I was 31 and pretty fit and full of energy and I thought that I could overpower him if need be, having hitchiked across the US a couple of times. Anyway he was on the level as I surmised. However, he said that due to me being slightly older I would have to know how to sing as well. Sadly I have never been able to sing and it took about half an hour of trying to sing middle C before he realised it was hopeless. I feel so sorry for this young woman. Senseless loss of a life. He should have been banged up at the start of his career. It is always sensible to alert people when you are going somewhere new. I didn't actually want to be a Hollywood star I just thought it would be interesting to go to the interview, and it was. In the UK after I was at Art college it was common knowledge that some female artists had to give sexual favours to male gallery owners which is why I never tried to exhibit any art!
He will get a parole hearing in 25 years, but by no means does that mean he will be released. The governor of California would need to approve Victor's release, and that would be a big political liability in case he reoffends. Most likely, Victor will die in prison.
Call of fame & attention is very alluring to many. Sad these girls didn't have the caution or experience to not get involved. Excellent points as always. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
It's strange that he would pick the James Bond franchise as his lie. James Bond is one of the few movie series that have absolutely zero connection to Hollywood, and have never been produced outside of the UK.
That's what I thought. Plus, they had been using established actors like Eva Green (The Piano Teacher, The Dreamers, Kingdom of Heaven) and Naomie Harris (28 Days Later, Pirates of the Caribbean, Miami Vice). But desire sometimes overcomes judgment. It's just usually a matter of eating unhealthily or something - not getting scammed by a predator.
I wish grande as a therapist would dig deeper into what made this monster- like his life before birth, parents, family, and events during childhood, etc.. etc.. that is the benefit of this channel as opposed to other sources where these themes are obvious on face value.
If you think that she was gullible please understand that her dream blinded her from everything being presented. Emotions are stronger than critical thinking. And every one of you reading this, has, at one point been betrayed because your emotions got the better of you. Fortunately, your outcome was not fatal.
@@rokess5053 true, like psychopaths. But please don't pretend you have never fallen in love or had a crush. You are not a robot. "You just hear those that do"???? Live life buddy. Go out an open yourself up to other people. You sound like an introvert.
Let me rephrase that for you: The desire for violence towards women is something society needs to drill out of men and boys. Sadly, it’s only gotten worse.
No, I think they just need to find validation in actually healthy pursuits like raising kids. Vanity is the problem, not "the need for validation". That is universal
Thank you, Dr. Grande! As always, your opinion is always well respected and much appreciated, as is your tasteful, yet undeniable humor 😂 I really think you should consider doing an all "bloopers" video! I've seen some of yours at the ends of some videos and it makes my day!
Until he was finally sent to prison - and he was let out early and then did far worse (escalated to unaliving a woman). Our prison systems don't even make a good faith attempt to rehabilitate people, and I don't know if someone like Victor could be rehabilitated anyway. If we can't or won't rehabilitate violent offenders, why let them out? Their prison experience often contributes to them being a worse offender.
It is so sad that young women could have been duped by that kind of line in 2003. But I reckon that a line indicating I can get you in the movies or complements on looks can turn heads and make one forget the warnings that your parents gave.
Okay, Dr. Grande, - there was a case of a Los Angeles Raiderette cheerleader, that got lured out to basically a Mono Lake setting, the weirdo "photographer" s.a.'d her, then blamed her boyfriend for her disappearence, man, it's a twisted late 80s, early 90s tale. It still sickens me, maing.
It would never occur to me to think of doing something like his tactic. But he must have had a measure of success with it since he used the same description on multiple women. Who knows how many other women were taken advantage of and hurt or killed?
Lenient judges need to be looked into. Naive shallow females shouldn't be judged too harshly, but if it wasn't for me, a friend of mine could be living a completely different life to what she's living right now. long story short, she was asked to go to an adress for photos, but I went with her and noticed the lack of furniture, and told them my mom was waiting downstairs and would phone the police if we weren't back at her car in 15 minutes- one lone camera on a tripod in an empty lounge....
Another California-based Serial Killer (this one in the late 70s) used the same M.O. as Victor. Rodney Alcala pretended to be a photographer for a popular women’s clothing magazine and was always in search of pretty girls who had the potential to model for his magazine. That was the “hook” Alcala used to lure these teenage girls to his apartment for a “photo shoot” to start their modeling portfolio. That is where he would un-alive these poor girls. Alcala, prior to his capture by law enforcement, actually appeared on an episode of the popular 70’s game show: “The Dating Game” . . . and won! However, the girl who ultimately selected him from a panel of 3 single guys vying for a possible “date” with her, was so creeped out by him during their initial talks following the show that she wisely decided to not go on the date with him. How Alcala made it on as a contestant on “The Dating Game” was a horrific surprise to many of the show’s fans after Alcala was finally arrested and charged with multiple murders of young ladies in the SoCal area. Apparently, prior to getting on “The Dating Game”, Alcala had just finished serving a couple years in prison for committing a lewd and lascivious act on a minor female. Fans of the popular game show were upset with the show’s producers for not doing more thorough background checks on the men they ultimately select to be contestants on the show. The episode of “The Dating Game” involving Alcala happens to be available here on UA-cam if you simply type, “The Dating Game Killer” or “Rodney Alcala”. It’s an interesting and creepy video that is worth a watch IMO, knowing what we know now about this evil, worthless, psychopathic POS.
Wow, that's ridiculous. They didn't have the internet back then, but I'm pretty sure they could still find out if someone was convicted of a felony and went to prison.
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I remember watching this story on ID. I was once approached by a creepy unattractive dude telling he is a tennis/hockey player and he thought i looked like im an athlete i told him im naturally fit then he gave me his number told my then bf who was from the same town he said there are a number of girls who went missing going to a tennis/hockey practice, i thought it was weird that ppl be recruiting ppl from the streets, plus he kepts going on and on about my body very creepy
Women need to organize to reform the justice system - it's far too lax with these creeps and weirdos. It seems obvious after all the tragic stories of violence against women that little or nothing changes in the judicial system.
I think that there's a pecking order for certain aristocratic people to be eligible for those kinds of roles, meaning no one legitimate is ever in a lifetime going to approach some random stranger and ask them to audition for a James Bond film. But like you said, the excitement from emotional thinking develops way quicker than critical thinking skills.
No longer do we have to speculate on why there were so few women in the James Bond movies wearing mini skirt, a white shirt, stiletto heels, and pantyhose. It is mostly because of the murder part.
This was covered via a recent "Dateline" podcast. Quite a good one at that, can't remember what it was called: maybe "Murder in the HOllywood Hills" or something like that.
I want to stop but I can't. The power I feel is so overwhelming. I just can't find release and satisfaction any other way. It's like the ultimate drug and once you have it nothing else will do. Everything else is so numbed like the feeling is only 10% of what it should be. But when I'm in control it's like a volcano erupting.
I remember when a nurse that worked at a hospital in Seattle went on a date with a man she met online and was found in trash bags :( Her name was Ingrid lyne
sad. It's utterly useless to phone police or any other government agency...they say: "There is nothing we can do." or "You have to call this number..." T
This reminds me the infamous Australian serial killer, Christopher Wilder, who after fleeing murder charges in his home country used stories of him being a modeling photographer to lure young women on his cross country and back killing spree in the United States. It's amazing what some people will do for a complete stranger.
@@claracarpenter8913 I’m guessing before the great population boom in Western California. There was a lot more wildlife, bears, coyotes, mountain lions, etc..
All this guy learned from his light sentences was not to leave his victims alive.
Absolutely
To be clear, you're talking about life without parole for the early offenses he was charged with? If so, we'll have to pay to incarcerate a lot more people, and we'll have to build more prisons (unless we stop incarcerating so many nonviolent drug offenders). And when we convict and incarcerate an innocent person, it will be a much bigger mistake.
@@loki2240now why would you think that? Of course I don’t think he should’ve gotten life without for his early offenses. Doesn’t change the fact that he finally ended up murdering a woman after years of assaults. These crimes escalate and they need to start taking that into consideration when sentencing them and monitor these criminals more closely.
@@birdie9240 - So, should he have gotten a significantly harsher sentence at some earlier point. When should monitoring have started, and how would it have prevented or discouraged these encounters with women? Do you think that a good faith attempt at rehabilitation would've helped? Do you have any other ideas that may have helped?
To be clear, I'm not attacking you. I'm looking for positive (or at least better) outcomes. Thank you for your input.
@@birdie9240 - Personally, I think that sex offenders are typically fundamentally different from other offenders who tend to be influenced by situational factors much more. To the extent that any offenders "learn their lesson" in our punishment-focused prison system, our prison system doesn't change sex offenders' sexual desires or behavior. And I don't think rehabilitation would be very effective, either.
We're in a tough situation. But I don't think that we can make significant improvement by continuing to do what we've been doing. And that includes treating sex offenders too much like other offenders. Maybe some other countries have developed more effective approaches.
This is why it is important to always bring someone with you whenever you are meeting with a stranger and take some safety measures.
Not if it’s a photo shoot though… better to go alone
Absolutely
particularly when they promise all kinds of unreasonably things.
Would Harvey Weinstein have been able to do what he did if there was a man present? Of course not, and many of those women were WILLING to pay that price for the chance of stardom. Both of the women involved in his trial continued to send him gifts and love letters for YEARS after he assaulted them. If they could choose to remain outside the industry or have sex with distasteful men many women will choose the latter… and they won’t have that opportunity if they’re chaperoned. The women who DON’T bring someone along will get the parts… and that defeats the entire purpose of the process, for both parties.
@@JIMMILLS-vo4dwTed Bundy was another example of morbid attraction. While he was in confinement and after admitting his crimes, women sent letters of loving attachment to him. He even married before execution . 🔥
Unattractive and Repulsive is the norm for a Hollywood producer.
Along with "creepy."
The phenotype sure is prevalent.
They all look related, somehow.
Almost like you could pick them out in a lineup .
@@B-I-G-N-A-S-T-YOh, they're related
@@martist911wasits-not-real4 Now we're cooking
Dang maybe we can be producers ayy brian?!
I knew Christi Johnson and her brother Derek. They went to our local HS with my daughters. Although it's been many years since her death, she will never be forgotten. 😢
I’m sorry you had to be connected to this tragedy
This guy was so obviously a predator, and the system just kept letting him go. It's hard to believe he could commit so many acts of violence against women and still be allowed back out on the street.
It's not at all hard to believe Victor could commit so many acts of violence and still be on the street. Our justice system at times is worthless.
Meanwhile there are people rotting away in jail/prison cells for much less.
Honestly, I don't find it all that hard to believe. It's even worse in Australia. A tap on the wrist is all you get for violence against women or anything else, really 🤷🏽♀️.
White privilege: it hurts white people too.
There isn't enough room in prisons for the people that need to be there. All the space is taken up by people who shouldn't be in prison in the first place but are there because of the corrupt profit/career-seeking corruption.
That particular outfit that he required made me remember an encounter I had as a teenager in the early 80s. I was 17, there was an advert in the paper for new model talent. The man I spoke to on the phone requested that very same outfit, but he specified no underwear of any kind. I had him speak with my mother, and he seemed okay. We set an appointment. I was half-hearted, until I realized in talking to my mother about it that the lack of underwear was only said to me. The man called me a day before the "audition" and asked me whether my mother was around. When I told him that she was out, the barrage of questions he then asked me were clearly out of bounds even his voice changed. I didn't go to the audition. He called back repeatedly. I never explained it to my mother, because there was just no talking with her about that sort of thing ever. I credit a little innate sense, the pulpy novels that I was reading then, and a bunch of television movies of the week for my ability to recognize what that man was about back then.
How scary 😮!!! I'm glad you got out of the situation ok!!!
When you say there was no talking to your mother about that kind of thing, it makes me curious, like do you mean she really wanted you to get into modeling or maybe just take any opportunities that you were given? I'm so sorry to hear that you couldn't have explained to her why that man made you feel unsafe. I absolutely believe that you made the right choice, and it just makes me feel sad that your mom wouldn't have understood why your gut instinct would have been not to trust that man.
@Throatzillaaa
I’m sure she means about the sexual (sexual predatory) nature of it.
@@ThroatzillaaaIt's common for teen girls to have ongoing spats and disagreements with their mothers. I dare say the mother probably would've understood if the daughter told her about the no underwear thing.
lol a guy literally trying to get you to have phone sex with him and show up alone with no underwear “I don’t know, something seems off about this guy. You know, they say I’m a pretty investigative person with lots of good intuition”
When something sounds too good to be true. It is.
Although Charlize Theron was apparently discovered in public? I would trust my instinct.
@@tanyaedwards4574 I would trust more on odds than instinct. Everyone likes to think that they are the exception to the rule. That is why the lottery exists.
@@untouchable360x I'd bet with Ms. Theron the recruiter didn't ask her to meet at some shady residence and come alone... she probably was asked to meet at some film studio or other big, prestigious place.
The lady who took her boyfriend was rejected. Moral of the story is to never meet a stranger alone in a hotel room or some remote location. She was too naïve to know that. Poor kid.
That's what my daddy said!!!
Why do judges continually give these monsters probation? It is time to start holding judges accountable!
Agree wholeheartedly!
Because judges are completely upstanding members of the community and would never be influenced by money or power!🤪
Absolutely!
The power of the inner circle!
Great idea.
I've been a working actor all my life and ran into a couple of these fake audition situations, but my spidey sense kicked in and I didn't go to them. If something feels off, pay attention. Stay alive and unassaulted..
I never go to any auditions alone, at least someone comes with me to the door and waits outside, if the place looks sketchy I leave, or if I have to go alone I inform someone about the location of the audition and the time I'm coming back
Gee Bogdan, I don't know, maybe it was when one guy asked me if I could throw him over my shoulder in a fireman's carry, or that he asked me to come alone, and asked me what turns me on in a man;"his chest, right?", or the fact that he was clearly masturbating while he talked.
Or maybe I'm just intuitive.
Mom & Dads show this to your children. Young girls especially but not specifically. This can happen to young boys too!!!
Better yet, keep your kids out of entertainment industry altogether.
@@Foreverarose8 agree!!! Wish that was possible without totally isolating children. It is a balancing act.
"It's amazing how people will wait in long lines for an audition, and the person who got the part wasn't on that line."
That whole industry is evil.
That applies with other jobs too. Sometimes the one in charge of getting the person for the job already has a friend or relative picked but will put in an ad for the job for a cover. those who apply wasted time and money to be just used.
@@david-dj8or Bingo
That's how it works when interviewing for jobs, many times it's an inside job and they already have a person within the company chosen, they just have to go through the formalities of interviewing other people to satisfy protocol, government etc... Sad but true.
@@Foreverarose8 I've been boycotting Hollywood for twenty years, no TV, no modern movies.
Any guy who said he'd "provide the necktie" it should have been a Big Red Flag.
She was so naive, so sad that she actually trusted a complete stranger.
Right. She's a nice sweet looking young gal, but you could see he was weird from outer space. Being from Santa Monica we would never believe a person like that.
She was young and may have desperately needed the money an acting job would offer?
It is desperately sad to see that level of naivety.
The modeling/photo shoot rue was at least somewhat plausible but claiming to be casting for a Bond film was ludicrous. I feel really bad for Christi.
You would make an interesting James Bond Dr.Grande. Like you would say, "I'm not diagnosing you Blofeld, only speculating how you will die".
The woman who brought her boyfriend with her saved her own life.
Rest in peace Kristi, hugs to your family. I Hope Victor never gets out! Thank you Dr. Grande for your video.
They keep letting him out of jail!!!!!!
That’s California (Comiefornia) for ya! They like crime out there!😮
@@sarahalderman3126 I like your pretty mouth
I was approached by a guy like this in a mall when I was in my 20s but it wasn't in California. He was a 'magazine photographer' and wanted me to come to his hotel for some test shots. When he found that didn't work, he invited me to a restaurant at the mall, just for dinner. That didn't work either. When I finally left the mall, he 'just happened' to drive by and see me. I was quite creeped out by all of this. He flashed a huge wad of hundred dollar bills during our 'talking' and I considered for a brief moment of going to his hotel and robbing him. I don't think it would have been hard to do. But, I'm not a criminal and decided to just get away from him. Luckily, I smelled a rat right off and went with my gut instincts.
I like you
Glad you got away from that creep.
you sure think like a criminal
@@tonyamartin1425 That's rich coming from quite literally anyone with the brain power to open up a door. So I guess you fall below the requied IQ? The difference is not acting on it. Everybody has had criminal thoughts. If we went to jail for our thoughts, we'd all the locked up. I bet you're one of those people that are "just being honest" when you say something extremely out of line.
@@tonyamartin1425Lighten up Tonya 😂
Its so sad to think she probably believed that this was the break she was hoping for and that it would be the first day of the rest of her life as opposed to the last day of her life.
She’s in heaven and he’ll be going to hell. He still loses.
Really appreciate your little podcast space, with the cactuses and green/blue lighting. Calm cool colors to accompany the sticky prickly content that you analyze. Thank you for sharing your voice on matters gone terribly bad for all kinds of different people. I feel like I gain a more healthy perspective on things after I visit here. So thank you Dr. Todd. Wishing you and yours much wellness.
Monsters like this keep escalating their crimes.
Dr. Grande went from saying comments "always" generate an interesting dialogue to "consistently". Apparently we need to step up our game!
I will never fail to be amazed at just how much illegal activity a person can get away with before being seriously dealt with.
I lived in the little Lake Michigan town where Kristi and her family lived. They were a beautiful family and Kristi was a very sweet girl. The town is very tiny but the people there are the best you could ever meet. But because it’s a small, friendly town people can be a little naive. Not knowing that some people don’t have good intentions.
Guy was literally SCREAMING in rooms to test natural soundproofing, and the real estate agents didn't see a red flag???????
Just because that story is told, don't mean it has to be true.
@@david-dj8or what a weird take
He probably explained it by saying he and his wife argue a lot or having loud sexy time. 🥴
What do you imagine the real estate people could have done about it?
@@eadweard. call the cops & say you had a weird experience with someone you showed a house to. Give his info. See if he’s someone on their radar
Not to make light of this case, but the police sketch of the perp at 3:13 bears a striking resemblance to Boomhauer from, "King of the Hill."
I got discovered in Hollywood Boulevard Post Office LA many years ago by a small elderly Jewish man with glasses. He invited me to his tiny studio with a piano in it at the top of a building nearby, the following day. I didn't take anyone with me because I was 31 and pretty fit and full of energy and I thought that I could overpower him if need be, having hitchiked across the US a couple of times. Anyway he was on the level as I surmised. However, he said that due to me being slightly older I would have to know how to sing as well. Sadly I have never been able to sing and it took about half an hour of trying to sing middle C before he realised it was hopeless.
I feel so sorry for this young woman. Senseless loss of a life. He should have been banged up at the start of his career.
It is always sensible to alert people when you are going somewhere new. I didn't actually want to be a Hollywood star I just thought it would be interesting to go to the interview, and it was.
In the UK after I was at Art college it was common knowledge that some female artists had to give sexual favours to male gallery owners which is why I never tried to exhibit any art!
25 to life? That’s it! After all of his charges! California is sick.
He will get a parole hearing in 25 years, but by no means does that mean he will be released. The governor of California would need to approve Victor's release, and that would be a big political liability in case he reoffends. Most likely, Victor will die in prison.
Kristi thought she was being discovered. One red flag was being told specifically what to wear to the audition.
I'm ready to speculate without diagnosing in a situation like this!
Call of fame & attention is very alluring to many. Sad these girls didn't have the caution or experience to not get involved. Excellent points as always. Thanks Dr G😊💌💌
You know you're the worst of the worst if you're referred to as exceedingly creepy in a Dr. Grande video.
Hidden agenda was extremely hidden that Victor even hadn’t had a clue 😂😂😂 Dr. Grande 👏👏👏
I knew someone who went to a scammy acting school in LA. One day the instructor called her to his office and pulled the casting couch routine on her.
And did she get the job?
@@Relayzy1 There was no job.
@Relayzy gonna assume she didn’t fall for it
I crack up every time Doc adds “exceedingly creepy” to the perpetrator’s description!
Me too😁
Wait…. so “exceedingly creepy” is NOT one of the official diagnostic criteria??
It reminds me of the Mr Men books I feel like it continues "with extraordinarily long arms" 😬
That's become my favorite. 😂
Hahaha yesss. I love it. I also love the 'Mostly because of the murder part" quip 😄
Thanks for bringing up how dangerous people can be, and the importance of safety to viewers. Great work and keep this awesome channel going ❤
It's strange that he would pick the James Bond franchise as his lie. James Bond is one of the few movie series that have absolutely zero connection to Hollywood, and have never been produced outside of the UK.
That's what I thought. Plus, they had been using established actors like Eva Green (The Piano Teacher, The Dreamers, Kingdom of Heaven) and Naomie Harris (28 Days Later, Pirates of the Caribbean, Miami Vice). But desire sometimes overcomes judgment. It's just usually a matter of eating unhealthily or something - not getting scammed by a predator.
I wish grande as a therapist would dig deeper into what made this monster- like his life before birth, parents, family, and events during childhood, etc.. etc.. that is the benefit of this channel as opposed to other sources where these themes are obvious on face value.
Agree - I think it’s just recounting the case like a basic crime channel.
If you think that she was gullible please understand that her dream blinded her from everything being presented. Emotions are stronger than critical thinking. And every one of you reading this, has, at one point been betrayed because your emotions got the better of you. Fortunately, your outcome was not fatal.
Not everybody has emotions that are stronger than their critical thinking. We just hear about those that do.
@@rokess5053 true, like psychopaths. But please don't pretend you have never fallen in love or had a crush. You are not a robot. "You just hear those that do"???? Live life buddy. Go out an open yourself up to other people. You sound like an introvert.
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There’s nothing wrong with being an introvert.
@@rokess5053 In general, people from small towns are more gullible than city folk especially when they're young.
Thank you for sharing this case Dr. Grande! ❤
The need for validation really is something society needs to drill out of girls. Sadly, it’s only gotten worse.
Let me rephrase that for you: The desire for violence towards women is something society needs to drill out of men and boys. Sadly, it’s only gotten worse.
Well it's part of their nature, so good luck with that.
No, I think they just need to find validation in actually healthy pursuits like raising kids. Vanity is the problem, not "the need for validation". That is universal
Thank you, Dr. Grande! As always, your opinion is always well respected and much appreciated, as is your tasteful, yet undeniable humor 😂 I really think you should consider doing an all "bloopers" video! I've seen some of yours at the ends of some videos and it makes my day!
Repeated lighr sentences did nothing to deter his crimes against women.
Until he was finally sent to prison - and he was let out early and then did far worse (escalated to unaliving a woman). Our prison systems don't even make a good faith attempt to rehabilitate people, and I don't know if someone like Victor could be rehabilitated anyway. If we can't or won't rehabilitate violent offenders, why let them out? Their prison experience often contributes to them being a worse offender.
This predator should have gotten life with no parole.
It is so sad that young women could have been duped by that kind of line in 2003. But I reckon that a line indicating I can get you in the movies or complements on looks can turn heads and make one forget the warnings that your parents gave.
I feel so sorry for her. Thank you for the video.
Young, attractive, naive woman becomes another casualty in The Devil's Playground.
I bet no one has noticed this but it’s weird how frequently the small town of Holland, Michigan is mentioned in Dr G videos.
How many times?
can you please do an episode on Kyle Gordy from 90 day fiance the "sperm donor". Keep up the great work!
Did you see his feature in the “Man With 1000 kids” docuseries on Netflix? He appears on episode 2.
Always ready for my daily dose of Doc Grande!
Grande in the house!!!
This was featured on Forensic Files too
Oh, *Double 0 G...* How can people be so gullibe! Thanks for your opinion in this case, Dr. Grande
Strange coincidence: Dr. Grande is wearing a black mini dress and stiletto heels during the taping of this episode.
Its so creepy he said he would provide the necktie he obviously strangled her with
If somebody randomly told me they wanted me to audition for a movie while I was shopping, I would have died laughing. That's a no-win scenario.
Okay, Dr. Grande, - there was a case of a Los Angeles Raiderette cheerleader, that got lured out to basically a Mono Lake setting, the weirdo "photographer" s.a.'d her, then blamed her boyfriend for her disappearence, man, it's a twisted late 80s, early 90s tale. It still sickens me, maing.
Evil man
I can’t believe I have been following this channel for quite awhile, but I continue to speculate
Thank you once again, great video :)
It would never occur to me to think of doing something like his tactic. But he must have had a measure of success with it since he used the same description on multiple women. Who knows how many other women were taken advantage of and hurt or killed?
He probably has a 1% success rate. He approaches 100 a week and one them buys it. That's one too many for him.
Fantastic analysis - well done.
Lenient judges need to be looked into. Naive shallow females shouldn't be judged too harshly, but if it wasn't for me, a friend of mine could be living a completely different life to what she's living right now. long story short, she was asked to go to an adress for photos, but I went with her and noticed the lack of furniture, and told them my mom was waiting downstairs and would phone the police if we weren't back at her car in 15 minutes- one lone camera on a tripod in an empty lounge....
This happened to my cousin. She was. Age was 12
This Victor was clearly NOT an upstanding pillar of the community. How was he on the streets with his history?
Sigma
Another California-based Serial Killer (this one in the late 70s) used the same M.O. as Victor.
Rodney Alcala pretended to be a photographer for a popular women’s clothing magazine and was always in search of pretty girls who had the potential to model for his magazine. That was the “hook” Alcala used to lure these teenage girls to his apartment for a “photo shoot” to start their modeling portfolio. That is where he would un-alive these poor girls.
Alcala, prior to his capture by law enforcement, actually appeared on an episode of the popular 70’s game show: “The Dating Game” . . . and won! However, the girl who ultimately selected him from a panel of 3 single guys vying for a possible “date” with her, was so creeped out by him during their initial talks following the show that she wisely decided to not go on the date with him.
How Alcala made it on as a contestant on “The Dating Game” was a horrific surprise to many of the show’s fans after Alcala was finally arrested and charged with multiple murders of young ladies in the SoCal area. Apparently, prior to getting on “The Dating Game”, Alcala had just finished serving a couple years in prison for committing a lewd and lascivious act on a minor female. Fans of the popular game show were upset with the show’s producers for not doing more thorough background checks on the men they ultimately select to be contestants on the show. The episode of “The Dating Game” involving Alcala happens to be available here on UA-cam if you simply type, “The Dating Game Killer” or “Rodney Alcala”. It’s an interesting and creepy video that is worth a watch IMO, knowing what we know now about this evil, worthless, psychopathic POS.
Wow, that's ridiculous. They didn't have the internet back then, but I'm pretty sure they could still find out if someone was convicted of a felony and went to prison.
he did not just operate in Cali, he moved around and operated everywhere from Arizona, New York, Washington, New Hampshire, Texas….
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They give drug dealers 100000000 years in prison yet these sexual predators get light sentence after light sentence 🤦🏾♂️
Victor kept getting lenient sentences because he convinced the judges and prosecutors that he was a Hollywood producer and would get them on Jeopardy.
Beautiful young lady. Broken world we live in. Can’t trust anyone!
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I remember watching this story on ID. I was once approached by a creepy unattractive dude telling he is a tennis/hockey player and he thought i looked like im an athlete i told him im naturally fit then he gave me his number told my then bf who was from the same town he said there are a number of girls who went missing going to a tennis/hockey practice, i thought it was weird that ppl be recruiting ppl from the streets, plus he kepts going on and on about my body very creepy
why do they give these men so many chances?
That drawing is Boomhauer, I have no idea how anyone picked the actual guy out.
California sure does love probation and light penalties?
Women need to organize to reform the justice system - it's far too lax with these creeps and weirdos. It seems obvious after all the tragic stories of violence against women that little or nothing changes in the judicial system.
I think that there's a pecking order for certain aristocratic people to be eligible for those kinds of roles, meaning no one legitimate is ever in a lifetime going to approach some random stranger and ask them to audition for a James Bond film. But like you said, the excitement from emotional thinking develops way quicker than critical thinking skills.
That screaming in the empty room/house is creepy af. The agent must've been so disturbed that they reported him. What a scumbag
No longer do we have to speculate on why there were so few women in the James Bond movies wearing mini skirt, a white shirt, stiletto heels, and pantyhose. It is mostly because of the murder part.
I love it when u say exceedingly creepy gotta sneak it in every episode
I remember the Linda Sobek case back in 1995 . It was very similar.
This was covered via a recent "Dateline" podcast. Quite a good one at that, can't remember what it was called: maybe "Murder in the HOllywood Hills" or something like that.
I want to stop but I can't. The power I feel is so overwhelming. I just can't find release and satisfaction any other way. It's like the ultimate drug and once you have it nothing else will do. Everything else is so numbed like the feeling is only 10% of what it should be. But when I'm in control it's like a volcano erupting.
I remember when a nurse that worked at a hospital in Seattle went on a date with a man she met online and was found in trash bags :(
Her name was Ingrid lyne
Always interesting
Thank you❤
How horrible a multi murderer and predator . These poor girls all hoping for their dreams to end in screams .
Are James Bond movies being made in Hollywood these days?
“…and he was exceedingly creepy”😂 😂 I never tire of this line, Dr. G! 😆
Sketch looks like Boomhauer from king if the hill
This is a very common ruse. As a woman, if it sounds to good to be true...
sad. It's utterly useless to phone police or any other government agency...they say: "There is nothing we can do." or "You have to call this number..." T
My name? Grande,
Doctor Todd Grande.
This reminds me the infamous Australian serial killer, Christopher Wilder, who after fleeing murder charges in his home country used stories of him being a modeling photographer to lure young women on his cross country and back killing spree in the United States. It's amazing what some people will do for a complete stranger.
Haha, yes, the one dry joke per vid....great stuff!
How did he never get big trouble for breaking probation?
Why are young girls always SO naive ????
Breaks my 55 year old heart knowing I also fell for this crapola at 21 years of age!!!!!
Please analyze Ncumisa Senali!!
A couple of phone calls would have protected these women Just wow.
Why did this guy keep getting probation?
Every time I hear Los Gatos , I think of Cats, was there a bunch of cats when the California missionaries established that town , 😹
Perhaps there were mountain lions back then
I hadn't thought of that, I bet you're right about the mountain lions.
@@claracarpenter8913 I’m guessing before the great population boom in Western California. There was a lot more wildlife, bears, coyotes, mountain lions, etc..
@@enjoystravelingYes, and forests, trees, etc.