The Overhyped Legacy Of Henry Cejudo & The Fluked Title Reign Of Aljamain Sterling.
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- In this video I discuss Henry Cejudo and whether or not his MMA legacy is overrated. I also discuss his next opponent, UFC Bantamweight Champion Aljamain Sterling and his strange title reign. What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
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Time Stamps:
0:00 Is Henry Cejudo's MMA Career On Par With The Other GOAT's?
2:29 Cejudo's Fishy Title Wins
10:46 Aljamain Sterling's Flukey Championship Run
14:00 What I Actually Think - Розваги
There’s no way Mighty Mouse should ever be put below CCC
Agreed
He got double champ and defended the belt and beat dj how is he not above him? He's also beat way more notable names
@@ghostjason878 way less title defenses and dj also beat him in a better way
Name atleast 2 good fighters dj beat?? Dj lost to Dominick Cruz but Henry beat Cruz easily “in a better way” dj didn’t even beat cruz. Dj to me is the one who has the fishy legacy honestly all three these guys do not really Henry tho dj 10+ title defenses against who? Complete cans also for the life of him refused to fight tj dillashaw
@@logankurotori7043 nah he beat dj on one leg and the guys he beat absolutely destroys djs
I don’t think it’s fair to put Henry up there with guys like jones, gsp, Silva, etc but he’s def a top 10 guy.
I dont think he'd even break top 10 for me tbh. Hed be floating around the 11-12 mark
@@allenjlap dang! zarney...he couldn't make your top 10😭😭
@@bu11ymaguire how will Henry recover?
@@allenjlap shite! How would I know! I just hope he's ok. Man!
Zarney is a pretty influential guy ya know. His picks can shuffle everybody's top 10 list like a hurricane.
@@allenjlap btw is your name a Jojo reference?
Glad someone is pointing this out. The gold medal is huge though. DJ also arguably beat him. The only reason they gave it to Cejudo is because they scored it by the old rules when they weren’t supposed to. 135 is another conversation, it’s just a mess. If he comes back and beats aljo it will boost the stock
Exactly Dj won in my eyes.
Henry beat DJ in 2nd fight. Domnic Cruz kicked DJ's ass who got destroyed by Henry
@@harshatomas835 I'm tired of this line of argument: "Henry beat Cruz and Cruz beat DJ."
This is one of the biggest pieces of shit I have ever seen. And you came up with it. DJ lost to Cruz in 2011, then Henry beat a Cruz in 2020. 9 fucking years later, my dude. What the fuck are you on? talking out your ass like this is remotely analogous.
That knee gave Aljo his whole career.
He’s good but not the best. Yan better. Merab better.
@@lionelmessisburner7393 how you gonna say Yan better when he beat him twice? 😂😂
@@kevinbond3656 hold up are you autistic? Yan beat him the first time and arguably beat him the second time even though he didn’t have his corner.
@@lionelmessisburner7393 yeah saying peter is better is pretty silly.
@@kevinbond3656 eh once, no one really won that first one. But yeah Aljizzlame is sadly better
Remember when DJ got traded for Ben Askren
Tragic
We could’ve had a trilogy between CCC and Mighty Mouse smh
@@lucastracymma8764 but we would never had Masvidals knee on Askren, thats worth I think.
BUT we see what DJ vs Jones could be in his trilogy vs Moraes. Dude has a 135lb Jon Jones frame. Long and strong with aptitude in every area of fighting.
Problem with Henry was his championship longevity. He retired too soon to tell but he’s in my top 10 goat
Still your Top 10
Henry has had a fantastic career and I definitely have him in my top 10 towards the lower end(8-10), but with that being said I don't know how you can possibly put him in the same convo as guys like Jones, GSP, Mighty Mouse, and Silva. It might seem like he's close to that convo since he's already in the top 10 before this fight, but that top 4-5 guys are so far ahead of everyone else in my eyes that even if he wins here I can't put him in that convo. We talking about guys that were dominantly on top and damn near unbeatable for 5-7 years with 10+ title wins. How can you possibly put a guy who has less than 5 wins that almost all have asterisks on them as well even if he's was a double champion. Honestly, I would like to hear from someone who believes he's up there the most sensible argument for putting him in that pool of names even assuming he wins this next fight. To me, he would have to beat Aljo, O'Malley and then Volk lol and at that point he will undeniably be top 3-5 for me.
If Henry really manages to do all of that He would have to be put in The number one spot Or at least number two Especially if he is the 1st to get that win over volkanovski at featherweight.
Finally someone said it. Cejudo is an all time great but I keep hearing the media paint him out to be right on the verge of being the number 1 Goat
Henry is a legend in his own mind. He gets two belts, barely defends them and then "retires".
I thought you described Khabib minus “two belts”
first guy to finish dominick cruz, olympic gold medalist, beat tj dillashaw who was on EPO, beat marlon morias who was a killer at the time, and beat mighty mouse. My brother in christ he should be a legend in your mind
@@connerpollitt3661 Faber was the first guy to finish Cruz. Cruz was out of prime when he fought Cejudo. Cejudo is still a legend tho
@@ohmsohagia3227 my bad I meant inside the ufc
@@yz6644 Both overrated, you act like its kbib fans discrediting him when they both share that wrestler bias fanbase.
Henry fooled the casuals saying he is the triple champ
Makes my day when I see you post. Disagree with quite a few of your takes but you always entertain. Keep it coming man!
Great video! Great points and comparisons!
you know its gonna be a banger Lucas video when you hear the old school hip hop instrumental
Love this essay! Thank you.
Reason why they gave the win to Henry was bc they were tired of seeing dj win and he wasn’t pulling fans so it was a perfect opportunity to get him out of there which they did for Ben asscream
I do agree he has quite a few asterisks. But he is one of the GOATs, let's be real. TJ was with EPO and the mf wanted to go down, so it's a fair win.
100%!
Don't be gullible everyone is on peds don't be naive
@@Mrdimples Maybe, but not all steroids are built the same HGH it's not the same as EPO.
A literal sneeze would’ve knocked out that version of TJ he looked like he came from a nazi concentration camp
Tired of the excuses they make for TJ in that fight 🤦🏽♂️
Lucas is the best mma UA-camr but every video for him is a try not to glaze challenge (*impossible*) 😂
How is this glazing? It’s the opposite to call cejudo a fraud
This individual is usually wrong and breaks down fights horribly. It's like taking a casuals opinion
@@the_dom. he’s got his last three main events right bro 😂
@@regardlesslamron2096 He said Alex would KO Izzy (or something related to that), that is not right LMAO
@@the_dom. he has good breakdowns and goes over most points. He tells a fighters flaws and strengths and compares. how about instead of calling him a casual actually come up with contradictions to his points you freak.
Watch Cejudo’s knee blow out 30 seconds into round 1 and continue Aljo’s fake legacy 💀
That would be amazing.
@@jesselee653 won title by DQ, won next fight by split decision, beat a one armed old TJ… fake legacy
@@philyoutuber7270 bruh he won against petr yan. He needs respect and he is gonna beat cejudo next
@@brushtooth6636 ok Merab 👍
@@philyoutuber7270 I'd love to see you take a knee to the face and then explain your experience with that
u brushing over the Gold medal like it is nothing. An Olympic Gold medal is arguably way more prestigious than any belt. if he does go for a 3rd weight class and by some miracle beats Volk he would definitely be in the Goat conversation for everyone
What does an Olympic gold medal have to do with MMA. it's mega impressive and Cejudo is a phenomenal athlete but as far as MMA goats go he's pretty low down on the list
@Stefan M it is more impressive than any world champ tittle in other combat sports but ur right for now. Where would he rank for u if he does eventually somehow beat volk ?
@@karim6628 If he beats Sterling than Volk than he's top 3 for sure. But I don't see him beating Volk. Alex is untouchable right now
I pick cejudo to win but I really the love the content so please live stream more. keep up the good the work Lucas. came for tt lol
Finally, a decent take from Lucas..👏👏👏
bro keep updating your content
i love it to hear from you on MMA
i think the reason people say hes on the verge of being an all time great bc he wants to go up to 145 and become a simultaneous 2 division champ in a 3rd weight class. also the competition he faced in dom cruz the bantamweight goat and dj the flyweight goat and the arguable all time goat and tj who was also on epo and a great fighter
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Thank you for pointing out how overhyped cejudo is, i feel like a madman when i see people licking his boots the way they do.
His 4 "amazing" fights were:
- A razor close win against dj where he only got the decision by hugging dj on the ground, because cejudo has limited ground ability
- A win against an anorexic dillashaw who was already on the verge of death when the match started
- A win against moraes where he had to spam power shots because he was getting schooled by moraes, and the musclebound moraes eventually got tired from carrying his own overbloated frame
- A win against a cruz who'd had no camp, hadn't fought in 4 years and was now older
Most retarded reasoning. Dj was close but a fair win. Tj was on epo how is that not a legit win. Morales was a fair win you gave the dumbest excuse for that one. And Cruz was old that’s it.
Good video
the fact he was one of the first to figure out dom cruz seals him as legit for me. and he made it look easy
You have to give him the pillow kicks. Those are great, he looks at Cruz and then kicks the little pillow with his little leg.
You really hit the nail on the head
I like that you don’t pump these guys up, but still give respect at the end. I think #7 is a good spot for cejudo
9:04 “to be a serious threat in bantamweight you have to be able to finish fights”
* In comes Merab Dvalishvili *
Merab is OP tho. He’s a alien with his cardio cmon you know he’s different than Cruz lol
And are we acting like Merab didn’t finish Marlon ?
If you’re gonna give Cejudo an asterisk for TJ taking a fight he clearly shouldn’t have given the circumstance, we lost the plot
Was literally thinking about this yesterday lmfao
He's 36 now he's getting toward the end of his Career what do you expect he's gonna lose some fights. But he's not overhyped.
Cejudo is like khabib. He’s great. But he defended the belt a few times, demanded goat status, and dipped
Adesanyas legacy is better than his as far as mma
Without a doubt
lmaoo no cant even win against a wrestler cant even become double champ and no gold medal lol
I said mma specifically and tj dropped weight class bro was primed for a KO loss
Henry is on par with khabib legacy wise. Great dominance but neither fighter has done much overall. Can’t justify putting Henry above guys like dj, volk, Izzy, Usman, aldo, Jones, dc, Silva, gsp, fedor, hell even max holloway.
Khabib is on top of him, volk aldo and holloway on the goat list, my opinion tho.
Khabib is 100% more dominant and above him lmao
I don't understand luke how you will react and what you will say when/if cejudo wins. Will you walk the plank and say that perhaps cejudo was more meritable after all?
One thing I can say for sure is
Aljizzmain is going down Saturday
I think for once you make a great point, but I don't usually see people comparing ccc to guys like Jones, GSP, Silva or MIghty mouse. 7th in an all time list is a fair rank for henry
Imagine if Cejudo taps Aljo first round like Jones-Gane 🤣 Lucas will cry
😅
Boo, this does not take social dynamics into play. The intensity each fighter had opposing Henry cannot be overlooked. He made them all bend the knee. Each win was spectacular. That’s why the best train with Henry. The lead up to each of his title defense fights was unlike any other fighter has ever faced, and for Henry to dominate makes him goat mountain captain.💯
The Cruz, Dillashaw, DJ, and Moraes wins all have an asterisk to them.
Demetrious said henry won that fight, T.J. was on the juice, the Marlon logic makes no sense because all of jones former opponents apart from DC go on a crazy losing streak, Cruz is bantamweight goat and after Cejudo fight he still beat legit contenders. I think you reaching my friend
Cruz was better in his fights after cejudo than he was getting off the couch. And let’s be real, Cruz isn’t dangerous at all. It’s a gimme fight for Henry
Cruz was coming off a 4 year layoff
@@pikaprik6607 he's still the bantamweight goat and still legit contender after that fight. U got to be consistent with the logic because he said Marlon was bad after cejudo loss. I think its reaching
@@sonny4978 Marlon was still good till he permanently lost his chin after rebounding from the sandhagen ko in less than 6 months.
Demetrious is way too much of a nice guy like Jan, that fight was an obvious robbery. Cejudo had his face borderline disfigured while Demetrious look like he just went for a short jog
Are we talkin about the best MMA fighter or the best combat athlete because that's what Henry says he is, and I'm not sure who else is in that discussion for accomplishments in athletics overall
You fight who is front of you. You can’t control all these variables. The question is always how you adapt and deal with it.
Cejudo has some great accomplishments. Not taking away from anything. But he got djs scraps and then went up a weight class thinking it was a big move. When he in fact he got even more of mighty's scraps. Yeah hes great yeah he went up in weight. But unlike mighty he didnt come up in a bigger division only fighting bigger guys. Even now mighty mouse is fighting guys bigger than him.
Bet Henry and aljo have already seen this video. Probably right after it got posted actually
In all fairness Conor looked the same as TJ before he went and won the title. It's on tj for not hydrating right
t.j. had an advantage by cheating. He got beat, people can't accept that
@@sonny4978why did TJ even move down in weight? Wouldn’t it have been better if Cejudo moved up?
Conor is more similar to Pereira, TJ was already halfway dead when he stepped in the ring.
@@DADRB0B55 like I said, it's on him for not hydrating right. Conor looked like tj at weigh ins
@@Tristan-tj9uz tj wanted double champ, 135 and 125. He failed so Tj and cejudo agreed to fight in 135 so cejudo could get the opportunity but TJ caught cheating
Yes you are actually right he won the Flyweight belt by robbery and he had wins over washed-up Dillashaw and washed-up Dominick cruz 😂 and now bro retired by humiliation after comingback i the Henry is overrated than former champs like Usman,Khabib etc..
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Agree it was similar to Dan Hooker beating Gilbert burns
Dank hooker had a great performance though
still not buying this PPV
Solid
Dam ripping off thumbnails and background music of a boxing channel now? Didn't hear any original takes on the vid either.. Oh well.
Bantamweight has been in hell ever since holloway left and Yan landed that cursed illegal knee.
Hoping sandhagen cleans the division up and shows these fools how it's done. That said, Cejudo is as legit as they come. Dude's training with Jones and DJ so his game leveled up for sure.
WAIT HE PICKED ALJO LETS GO HENRY
He is the greatest combat sport athlete of all time. He’s accomplished speak for themselves. You can keep saying “well this or that” at the end of the day facts r facts and he has beat some amazing fighters.
Do you even know what you’re saying? Thats such an absurd statement. You’re saying he’s greater than Muhammad Ali who also has a gold medal or GSP. He’s overrated
@@srr3097 combat sports means you’re talking about more then 1 discipline u can’t be the greatest if you only did one of them. He’s not greater then gsp in ufc history but beyond that in combats sports it’s just a different ranking. He was the the youngest gold medalist in US history at 18 n was double champ. I’m pretty sure he’s been the only 2 double champ to defend his titles not super sure on that but even then he’s one of maybe 2. So if you add the fact that he has been the best in world at 2 diff combat sport. Yes he’s the greatest
DANIEL CORMIER DEFENDED BOTH HIS TITLES
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WORLD CHAMPIONS IN DIFFERENT SPORTS....ITS JUST THAT WRESTLING HAS AN OLYMPIC LEVEL TO IT. ISLAM WAS A SAMBO WORLD CHAMP TWICE....HE HAS BETTER WINS THAN HENRY CEJUDO{CHARLES AND VOLK} IF WE COMPARE THE LEVEL OFCOMPETITIVENESS IN 155. SO DOES THAT MEAN ISLAM IS THE GOAT??@@Clown94847
Look Henry can say what he wants about Mcgregor having zero title defenses. But at least Conor beat the REAL champions in both divisions convincingly and cleanly. No other double champ can attest to that.
That’s what I’m saying. Henry was never undisputed in either weight class. Never defended the belt against the best contender
But every other double champ can say they defended and that’s where your argument falls apart because it’s defenses that make a reigning champion
DC also won his title fight convincingly in both weight classes tho.
@@Goatkuna236 He didn’t beat Jones, the real lw champion. And he cheated against Stipe before he knocked him out. Then lost to him in their rematch
@@Pandemomium4LifeHe won his title fights convincingly and that's what I said Jones came after DC was already champ.Also he never cheated against Stipe lmao tf you talkin about it you are saying eye pokes is cheating then Jon Jones is the biggest cheater not that he already isn't
Asterisks are associated with scandals like cheating. Not your opponent cutting too much weight.
Dj to me is the fishiest 10+ title defense’s AGAINST WHO PLEASE TELL ME WHO????? I don’t know anyone besides Henry and ray birger because of how bad he embarrassed him I know ppl will say “THATS PROOF HE EMBARRASSED HIM THATS HOW GOOD HE IS” but no be real ray was a can like the rest of them
Lucas you do realize that JBJ beat plenty of out of prime fighters but you’re not taking anything away from him
I have been telling MMA-UFC Fans these facts after he Retired.
Thank you for making the video.
Facts come out.
Henry Cejudo, disrespecting the Legends.
You can even see how jacked Henry was when he fought TJ. TJ looked tiny and Henry was wide and juiced up.
Both were juiced
@@Jbandz747 one looked like a skeleton. Yes tj is a cheater and probably was cheating then too. But he didn't look like the same guy I have watched
Ariel?
I mean olympic champ and 2 div world champ. A win is a win is a win.... Controversial over DJ but still. It was a close 2nd fight.
I'd put him top 10 not top 5. I say he's tied with guys like DC and Stipe, his win over DJ is greater than any of their wins. And if he can reclaim his belt and defend against O'Malley, I'd put him above DC and Stipe
Lucas going against Henry? Welp time to bet the house on triple C I guess
Didn’t Cormier literally get gifted a belt from Jones popping? Not comparable to Henry’s situation.
Defeating a Dillashaw who looked like he came out of some third world prison counts for nothing.
Henry beating tj and saving the flyweigjt division is what people will remember him for the most one day.
I still don't get why Henry chose "The Messenger" as his nickname. That's like the dumbest name ever. Anyone know origin of this?
The win over dj is what it is he won its was a close fight not a “robbery” by any means it was one of those fights were it could of gone ether way and ppl wouldn’t be mad at it and the weight drained tj tj literally said he hopped on the epo to help him with the weight cut and your pushing it lol jdm looks way worse when he cuts weight and so do many others.
T-Day Dillashaw
DJ is certainly top 3. He cannot be put below the top 5
No he certainly can. His best win is Henry 😂
MMA fans when someone doesn't have the same Top 5 GOAT list 🤬
It’s crazy how wrong you’re gonna be this Saturday 😂
I have said 100 times by now that Cejudo has a good chance this weekend. Relax
@@lucastracymma8764 you say that for all ur picks just incase ur wrong
@@lucastracymma8764 take a side bro. I got Cejudo
These guys were given title fights, and then won those fights, but the fights weren’t hard enough? Do you refuse a TJ fight because he looks dehydrated? Do you say no to Dom as a replacement because he’s too old?
AlJo is the one that popped out TJs shoulder
Bruh.
TJ sustained the injury during camp, kept mum and went into the octagon hoping it wouldn't pop. He got beat by Aljo and apologized for taking up a spot even though injured.
You need to be able to finish to win in the bantamweight division?? Take a look at the champ and the no. 1 contender in that division right now...
Henry is a killah ! C4 coming soon.
He's gonna pick "Aljane" apart! He's gonna drain his energy by finding openings on the champ.
DC won the silver medal at the Olympics too, only lost to Cael Sanderson, a wrestling goat
iv been saying that he's overrated. I mean really greatest combat sports athlete of all time? oh my god that statement is so horrible he's not even better than DJ
I fully agree, Cejudo is not a top 5 goat. He doesn’t have the resume for it. At the same time, I see his hype as a legitimate monster is still valid. He has finishing power, and he can brawl. I’m excited to see how he’ll stack up against Sterling.
Tee day jillashaw
Henry is a great fighter but I completely agree, I've been saying this for ages his mma career is nowhere near the real legends of the sport.
Dj should've won their second fight
How rude, that man worked very hard for you to be charmingly right and handsome.
Funny how no one uses this very same record analysis on hw "goat" stipe miocic who abused older pride legends, and was gettig ko'd by struve in his prime. The same people that now call him "old" and never saw his old opponents, just the name on the record.
To put things into perspective, Henry has 2 wins against current top 15 bantamweights and flyweights combined. Those two wins were against a drained TJ and an old Cruz who took a short notice fight after being out for 4 years.
Don't get me wrong he's a great fighter and I pick him to beat Aljo but to say that he's anywhere close to the greatest fighters is an absolute joke.
i have a feeling you havent picked aljo to ever win a fight
@@FreeJalen you probably think I'm capping but I swear I picked him to beat Yan in the rematch by split decision. I have the screenshots lmao
Ah yeah TD Jillashaw
Fraud? We seen him win the Olympics against the world, we saw him beat mighty mouse in a close fight, KO batamweight goat dominic cruz, finish TJ dillashaw in under half a round, we saw him do to marlon moraes who at the time looked like a machine! And never been the same since... then we saw him come back after a 3 year lay off and get in a close fight with an active champion with most title defenses in BW..
LOST TO MIGHTY MOUSE
DEFENDED TITLE AGAINST A DRAINED TJ DILLASHAW
WON BMW TITLE AGAINST MARLON MORAES
DEFENDED IT AGAINST OUTTA PRIME KINDA SHORT NOTICE DOMINIC CRUZ
Oh may she ate it?
This dude is the definition of recency biased
I think you are miss interperating what they're saying about henry people aren't calling him the GOAT of mma it's the GOAT of combat sports so you have to add wrestling to the mix
Well hopefully this "fraud" wont smash Aljo or your curse will be official 😂
I think almost everyone has dj ahead of Henry. I know I do. Even head to head, dj dominated Henry in the first fight. The second fight was razor close and could have easily went either way
Dillishaw said himself he was a zombie until he took the steroids he talks about how amazing he felt leading up to the day of fight
This dude was hating on cejudo ain’t no way he just dissed dom like that lmao
it'd be funny/karmic if Cejudo lost via premature stoppage
If he beats sterling then O’Malley and then moves up and somehow beats Volkanovski then he’ll be on the Mount Rushmore but until then hes not near the top 5